WEBVTT - Leaderless Moment

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wolcate F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>me your Girl, Danielle Moody recording prerecording from the Long

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<v Speaker 1>Island Bunker, Folks, I want to start off today with

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the absolutely horrific, disastrous Scotus term that we

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<v Speaker 1>just live through. I don't think it's unfortunate, I will

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<v Speaker 1>say this not I don't think it is unfortunate that

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<v Speaker 1>people don't recognize their power until their power is taken

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<v Speaker 1>away from them. And maybe that is human nature, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But for years, for years, the Republican Party has been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the way in which they want to return

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<v Speaker 1>this nation to what they believe is its puritanical, white

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<v Speaker 1>evangelical Christian roots. That they want a nation that abides

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<v Speaker 1>by their Bible and their interpretation thereof. And they've been

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<v Speaker 1>using the courts, and they've been using schools, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>been using all sorts of avenues and strategies and order

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<v Speaker 1>to accomplish their authoritarian, fascist Christian rule. And yet all

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<v Speaker 1>of these years, all of these decades, Democrats have continued

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that Republicans are their rational ideological adversaries, that

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<v Speaker 1>these people with their white supremacist ideas, and their anti

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<v Speaker 1>every single thing, just listed, anti women, anti black, anti Asian,

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<v Speaker 1>anti Latinas, anti Muslim, like, just them all down that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow they were worthy of being considered rational or people

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<v Speaker 1>that are open to collaboration and compromise. And it is now,

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<v Speaker 1>as we have seen, the Court, the Supreme Court become weaponized,

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<v Speaker 1>a weaponized tool of the radicalized right, that all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, everybody, including the democratic establishment, is waking up

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, oh my god, how did we get here?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? But do you know who doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to still have a sense of urgency? Joe Biden, the

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<v Speaker 1>President of the United States. Now I did a TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>video and again, if you don't follow me there, you should.

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle Moody underscore where I had just finished reading an

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<v Speaker 1>article in the Atlantic, and the article is Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>running out of time, And essentially within the article it

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<v Speaker 1>discusses the fact that the author of the piece doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe And I will say that maybe I agree that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else could have beaten Donald Trump in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty election. And I know that everyone has, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their own opinions, but I believe I did not want

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden to be the nominee because exactly how he

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<v Speaker 1>is showing himself to be now, which is weak, subservient,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, a statesman from a long forgotten time

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<v Speaker 1>at that moment, I don't think that this country would

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<v Speaker 1>have taken anybody else, and obviously they did not. But

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<v Speaker 1>what the article in The Atlantic goes on to question

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<v Speaker 1>is whether or not Joe Biden is the president that

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<v Speaker 1>can actually fight against Trump. Is M not just Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump the man, but Trump is M the affected ideology?

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to say no, he is not. What

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<v Speaker 1>we have seen is really outwardly from mostly the women

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<v Speaker 1>and the people of color and the younger people, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they be in the Senate or in the House of Representatives,

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<v Speaker 1>like Senator Warren or Representative Alexandria Cassio Cortez in the House,

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<v Speaker 1>saying all of the things and providing all of the

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<v Speaker 1>avenues that if this president were aggressive, if this democratic

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<v Speaker 1>establishment were aggressive and fighting fire with fire, they would

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<v Speaker 1>do and they're not doing any of it. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>to you that in an interview with CNN's Dana Bash,

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<v Speaker 1>the Vice President Kamala Harris, when pointedly asked, people already

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<v Speaker 1>showed up for you to vote and they are expecting

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<v Speaker 1>you to do something, And her response to that was

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<v Speaker 1>do what exactly. Well, my fucking god, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to act so incompetent and so weak, then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't have the job in the first fucking place,

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<v Speaker 1>because stern words and wagging fingers and fucking prayer is

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<v Speaker 1>not saving us. Expanding the court will, ending the filibuster,

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<v Speaker 1>will finding out the creative ways to provide abortions to

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<v Speaker 1>women and people with uteruses in now the twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>states that have outlawed abortion will. Not only has this

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court overturned fifty years of precedent, they also turned

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred over a hundred year precedent with their denial

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<v Speaker 1>of New York States ability to issue its own laws

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<v Speaker 1>around concealing carry. Then they went so far as to

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<v Speaker 1>give the middle finger to the fucking planet and say

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<v Speaker 1>that the EPA doesn't have the power to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to enforce emission standards. So, not only do they want

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<v Speaker 1>to make America more dangerous for women and people with

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<v Speaker 1>uterus is more dangerous so that those that carry guns

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<v Speaker 1>have more rights than those that do not also unhealthy,

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<v Speaker 1>because we already know that the myriad of fucking storms,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they be fire season, hurricane season, tornado season, are

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<v Speaker 1>at all time historic levels every fucking year. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you know this, and you know that there is no

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<v Speaker 1>slow down with this six to three court, why would

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<v Speaker 1>you not start talking strongly and not start creating a

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<v Speaker 1>war room around How you fucking turn this nine person

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<v Speaker 1>court into her thirteen person court and level the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>playing field right and extinguish the power of Alito and

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas and Gorsich and Kavanaugh and fucking Barrett from being

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<v Speaker 1>able to destroy this country one fucking decision at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not, and it should not be fucking rocket science.

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<v Speaker 1>When your enemy reveals themselves to you, you do not

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<v Speaker 1>turn your back because they would quickly shoot and stab

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<v Speaker 1>you in it. You don't say, oh, I'm not opting

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<v Speaker 1>into this fight when your enemy has drawn the lines

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<v Speaker 1>of the battlefield quite clearly for the world to fucking see. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as Joe Biden, the right president for this moment is

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi, The right speaker for this moment is Chuck Schumer.

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<v Speaker 1>The right leader for this moment apps a fucking lutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then the question becomes who is and is

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<v Speaker 1>it time that the pall as somebody had asked me

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<v Speaker 1>that we're listening to the show, sent me a DM

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<v Speaker 1>and said, Danielle, I don't understand why there is a

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<v Speaker 1>lack of urgency and passion on the left. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>in France, they don't like what the fuck the government

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<v Speaker 1>is doing, and they take to the streets and they

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<v Speaker 1>burn shit down. Is it that there is a fear

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<v Speaker 1>the question was a fear that we are outgunned. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, honestly, I do know that what I would

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<v Speaker 1>rather see, rather than people burning down their own cities

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<v Speaker 1>and towns, is that I would much rather see a

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<v Speaker 1>national fucking boycott organized that says that ain't nobody going

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<v Speaker 1>to work, right, Not your fucking grocery, Not your quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote essential workers that we were willing to send out

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<v Speaker 1>in a pandemic with their less than minimum wage that

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<v Speaker 1>they were receiving so that the rest of us could

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<v Speaker 1>stay cloistered away in our homes. Not the essential work Nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>not the fucking teachers, not the doctors, not the nurses.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't nobody going to work? I would rather see an

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<v Speaker 1>organized national boycott to disrupt this nation's economy and to

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<v Speaker 1>remind our fucking overlords who are who is actually in power.

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather see that happen than riots in the

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<v Speaker 1>street that only will last for a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>and frankly, more of us will be killed than on

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<v Speaker 1>that side. But let me tell you something, the direction

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<v Speaker 1>that all of this is headed in is only headed

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<v Speaker 1>in one way, which is towards violence. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of if, it is a matter of when. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's concerning me is that Joe Biden and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>around him seems to be operating on a different fucking

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<v Speaker 1>planet than the one that we are all living in

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Coming up next my conversation with our our

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<v Speaker 1>friend Danielle Campomore, who is the Today's show journalist covering

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<v Speaker 1>abortion and covering Roe v. Wade, and she will discuss, frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>the devastation that women and people with uteruses are feeling

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<v Speaker 1>across this country, the fact that for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>ever in our lives, our children, the nation's children, will

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<v Speaker 1>have less rights than their parents and grandparents, and what

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<v Speaker 1>we are essentially setting ourselves up for in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>has been on this show. My god, Danielle, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>on this show over I think the entire time that

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<v Speaker 1>I've had woke af which is pushing five years now,

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the first time that we are speaking

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<v Speaker 1>and a constitutional right has been taken away. For the

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<v Speaker 1>past several years, you and I have spoken about the

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<v Speaker 1>potential right of this moment, about what we feel that

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats need to do in this moment. But now the

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<v Speaker 1>moment is here. So before we even jump in, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to ask you, person to person, woman to woman,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing? Thank you so much for asking

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<v Speaker 1>me that. I mean, it's overwhelming, And if you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone who has followed access to abortion care in

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<v Speaker 1>this country, they'll tell you that this is not a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise but nevertheless, it is no less devastating to the

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<v Speaker 1>people that it impacts, particularly blackgrown or in rural people.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is not a surprise, you know, anyone in

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion field has been stounding the alarm, and so

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<v Speaker 1>if anti abortion people who've told you told me, told

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that this is what they were fighting for. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think one thing that's taking me back, as someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's covered this, and also as someone with a capacity

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<v Speaker 1>to get pregnant, who has been pregnant, is that while

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<v Speaker 1>we knew that this was coming, the the impact of it,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality of it is no easier to swallow. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's been a hard week, and especially when you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to people that this is impacting the most, and

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<v Speaker 1>the stories of people being turned away, and women who

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<v Speaker 1>are experiencing pregnancy complications and are being denied care or

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<v Speaker 1>their care as being you know, prolonged in some way

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<v Speaker 1>out of fear that the doctors caring for them will

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<v Speaker 1>be criminalized. It's hard. It's hard to stop, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I M we have all heard the stories. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that they were written down in our history books about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened pre nineteen seventy four, and the fear and

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<v Speaker 1>the reality being that abortion does not stop because the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court has overturned the constitutional right to bodily autonomy,

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<v Speaker 1>abortion just becomes unsafe, right, And so, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>believe then, are the actions that this administration should take

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<v Speaker 1>in order to codify ROW or should have taken, because frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>they could have codified it ten years ago in the

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<v Speaker 1>Obama administration and they didn't. Right, well, I think at

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<v Speaker 1>first it's important for us to all acknowledge that we

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<v Speaker 1>are not going back to a pre road day. The

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<v Speaker 1>advent of medication abortion will make illegal abortions safer in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of a person's physical health, they will not be

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<v Speaker 1>safe in terms of criminality, and that is where we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see an influx of black and brown people, and they

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<v Speaker 1>will be an influx of mothers as well, since the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of people have abortions, and moms will be criminalized

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<v Speaker 1>and then will be jailed. And so between that and

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<v Speaker 1>then the fear of not being able to access adequate

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<v Speaker 1>care if you have a miscarriage, for example, in ectopic pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 1>That is where the physical danger comes in is doctors

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to provide care. As for what Democrats should have

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<v Speaker 1>done and want to and should or me to do now.

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<v Speaker 1>All the people that I have spoken to, and these

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<v Speaker 1>are people who have been either really politically involved or

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<v Speaker 1>now this is there. What is driving them to be

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<v Speaker 1>political now is expand the court it is and the

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<v Speaker 1>filibuster it is, require and demands that people in the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party support access to abortion, no if ans or buds,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they don't, get them out of office and

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<v Speaker 1>elect someone who does. When I was in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court on Saturday, every single person that I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to said, do not tell me to vote. I did.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing now? Because I did vote, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am here right now. I've been protesting. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were kids there with children who this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a four year old. It was their third, fourth, fifth protests.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the parents are taking them continuously. So we

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<v Speaker 1>were making our voices heard and we're voting. Those of

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<v Speaker 1>the two things you tell us to do, we're doing them.

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<v Speaker 1>So what what are you going to do? That's what

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<v Speaker 1>people are telling me, And I think that is what

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are demanding of anyone in office

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<v Speaker 1>who says that they care about bodily autonomy, specifically the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party. You know, I just find it so frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Vice President Harris was on CNN a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at the time of this recording, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days ago, and when asked by Dana

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<v Speaker 1>Bash whether you know the people want you to do

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<v Speaker 1>something and you have you have the Senage, you have

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<v Speaker 1>the House, you have the presidency, and you're not doing anything,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, do what? She said like, her response was

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<v Speaker 1>do what? And I like lost my mind listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Vice President of the United States essentially say that

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't have any power, that the executive branch doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any power. And so if the people on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground are as frustrated as we know that they are,

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<v Speaker 1>because we share their frustration, what do you think this

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<v Speaker 1>looks like? And I mean, you know, the question that

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<v Speaker 1>I was asked on MSNBC a couple of days ago was, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the Democrats want to focus on quote un

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen table issues and inflation and gas prices. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the anger and outrage going to sustain itself to mid

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<v Speaker 1>term elections. And so I will tell you what my

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<v Speaker 1>response was, but I want to hear what yours is

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<v Speaker 1>to that question. My response is the response of anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that I've ever asked when it comes to what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to drive them, what's important to them, especially parents, because

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<v Speaker 1>that is my focus at today dot Com. And every

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<v Speaker 1>parent tells you there's no more bigger than table kitchen issue,

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to cide, win up and how you start

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<v Speaker 1>your family. What else is there other than a person's

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<v Speaker 1>ability to be able to make those decisions with their doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>with their spouse, with their family members. And it trickles

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<v Speaker 1>down to I mean, there were moms who are talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me, this is also about my ability to be financial,

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<v Speaker 1>to make financial decisions, financial freedom. I talked to people said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if I wasn't able to access abortion care, I would

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<v Speaker 1>still be tied to someone who was abusive. Who would

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<v Speaker 1>be This is about personal safety, It's about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no other kitchen table issue than bodily autonomy

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<v Speaker 1>and the freedom to make your private medical decisions for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And so really I think that the kitchen table issue

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<v Speaker 1>phrase is code for affluent whites issues that might matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So people who think that this doesn't impact them, that

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<v Speaker 1>they will still be able to access care if when

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<v Speaker 1>and how they need it, and so they can focus

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<v Speaker 1>on inflation because to them, they don't think that this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that will them or their family members, And

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at statistics and studies, that's just not

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<v Speaker 1>true that you know want and for people we need

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<v Speaker 1>an abortion, and that is not including people who need

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<v Speaker 1>that care comes to any sort of pregnancy complication, actopic pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 1>or businesscarage. So that would be my answer. There is

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<v Speaker 1>no bigger table issue than access to abortion. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you make you know? And Danielle I offered the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally said the same thing. I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what are we what we're talking about here? If

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about economic issues, I can see no other

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<v Speaker 1>economic issue than the ability to family plan. Like, if

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<v Speaker 1>there are more children at your table, then there are

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<v Speaker 1>zeros in your check. I'm confused about how you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to provide for those kids, particularly when

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<v Speaker 1>we are you know, when we have a government and

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<v Speaker 1>a party that is not interested in providing childcare, tax credit,

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<v Speaker 1>paid family leave, you know, universal pre K, that is

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<v Speaker 1>not interested in doing any of those things. So what

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<v Speaker 1>are you offering right to these people that you are

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<v Speaker 1>now forcing to give birth? That's what that was. My

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<v Speaker 1>response is the same as yours, And so what do

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<v Speaker 1>you like, what did you make then, given all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you make of the President Biden's addressed to

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<v Speaker 1>the nation following the Supreme Court decision? Did it hit

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<v Speaker 1>the notes that you needed it to hit? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you from the people that I talked to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it didn't because and it was very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because everyone said, I already know what he is going

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<v Speaker 1>to say before he said it, and they said, he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell me to vote, And of course that

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<v Speaker 1>is what he did. He said you need to vote

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<v Speaker 1>from November. And people just do not want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>that because again they did vote. These parents, these families

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<v Speaker 1>voted in the middle of an ongoing pandemic. They brought

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<v Speaker 1>their children into because they couldn't get time off work

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<v Speaker 1>because voting is on a national holiday in this country,

0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and so it just goes back to again, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to see more, especially when to your credit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about the economic fall out of access

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<v Speaker 1>a limited access to abortion care, we live in a

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<v Speaker 1>country with a pay gap where mothers get paid less

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<v Speaker 1>than fathers, but there's actually a motherhood penalty. For every

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<v Speaker 1>child that a mom has her she actually loses money.

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<v Speaker 1>She misses out on opportunities for growth within her area

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<v Speaker 1>of work. And so just statistically, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to see just how this will impact every

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<v Speaker 1>ass aspect of a person's life. They have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to get pregnant and do when they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>or am ready Moore, And so it just goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to you cannot continuously tell people to do something to

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<v Speaker 1>keep you in power if you do nothing with that power.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's born out of the conversations that I've had

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<v Speaker 1>with people, is why am I doing the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again when I'm watching my so my

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<v Speaker 1>friend co workers lose rights in the process. And we

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<v Speaker 1>started this conversation. Is the first time in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of this country a Supreme Court has given the constitutional

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<v Speaker 1>right only to take it away. We are about to

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow will be a week where more than half the

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<v Speaker 1>people in this country have lived without the constitutional right

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<v Speaker 1>to bodily autonomy. A week we have lived with less

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<v Speaker 1>rights than our parents and our grandparents. When we think

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<v Speaker 1>about that, that's catastrophic if you really sit and just

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<v Speaker 1>think about that, and so just vote. It's hard for

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<v Speaker 1>many people to stuff. I don't know, Danielle, where we

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<v Speaker 1>go from here? Because I said, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was the Monday after the decision, and I tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, this is going to be the first

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<v Speaker 1>Monday of a generation of Mondays that are hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of bed four right, And as I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and I think it and it really is

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<v Speaker 1>cemented into my understanding that this generation, this young generation

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<v Speaker 1>Gen Z, is going to have less rights, less access

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<v Speaker 1>to equity. Then the quote unquote greatest generation that this

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<v Speaker 1>country loves to bring up. Then you know, then the

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 1>baby Boomer grandparents and you know they're Gen X parents,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I what are what are the options? Because

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<v Speaker 1>what I keep hearing from the administration is that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any. We just need to vote. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you see as a handful of the options that the

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<v Speaker 1>strategies that this administration could take today if they had

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<v Speaker 1>the will Well, I think again, it just goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to the conversations that I've had with people who've been

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<v Speaker 1>in this space, who've been fighting for access to abortion care,

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<v Speaker 1>not just abortion care, but really just for expanded and

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<v Speaker 1>access to any kind of reproductive, maternal and mental healthcare,

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<v Speaker 1>including pregnancy three, nadal care, paid family leave, all the

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<v Speaker 1>things you said again that this country doesn't provide yet

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>they in a handful of states will not force people

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<v Speaker 1>to give birth and so UM, when you speak to

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>those people, the answer is very clear. It is and

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<v Speaker 1>the filibuster, expand the court quotify row and then from

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<v Speaker 1>the bully pulpit, as the president of the United States,

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>hold members of your party accountable. But that's not um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an outlier in politics. History has shown that

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>plenty of presidents have been able to hold other, uh

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, members of their party accountable via the bully pulpit. Um.

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Miss McConnell does a very good job of it within

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<v Speaker 1>his party to a certain degree. I'm in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that someone might argue that Democrats certainly do not UM,

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.159
<v Speaker 1>but I think that you know, the study show that

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest uh you know, amount of faith in the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court right now. And you know, I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>a couple outside of the Supreme Court on on Sunday

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and they brought up when we took their phone, went

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:15.679
<v Speaker 1>to aocs on Instagram and just started clicking. She's saying

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<v Speaker 1>what we can do? They wouldn't line by line, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is what we kind of want to

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<v Speaker 1>see she's telling us the plan. So there are members,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the Democratic Party that have more concrete plans,

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>whether it's aoclist before, it's also been very vocal as

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a plate and concrete steps. It sounds like the party

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<v Speaker 1>just needs to listen to itself, and surprise, surprise, it's women,

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>primarily women of color, who were leading um but that conversation,

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>who have plans in place. If members of the party

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<v Speaker 1>would just listen to you know. The other coded conversation

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>that is also happening with regard to this countdown to

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<v Speaker 1>midterms in five months is whether or not suburb in

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<v Speaker 1>and I use quotations suburban women, which is called for

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>white women will show up at the polls and this

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<v Speaker 1>will be the issue that they show up for. Now, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that fifty three percent of white women

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<v Speaker 1>voted for Donald Trump in twenty sixteen and fifty six

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>percent of them voted for him in twenty twenty. So

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>what expectation, level of expectation do you have that somehow

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the loss of this constitutional right is going to change

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 1>their minds and change their change their voting pattern. That

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>was one thing that did strike me to be you know,

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to be very very honest. It struck me as a

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a surprise when I was on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground in in DC in front of the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there were a lot of white women who were

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<v Speaker 1>very quick to honestly admit that they for the first time,

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>don't feel safe even if they came from a progressive

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<v Speaker 1>state that has shored up abortion rights, because they they

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<v Speaker 1>share with me is I always thought that Row was selled,

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 1>that Rowe was protected, and if Roe was protected, then

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I would be protected. And I think that a lot

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>of white women that perhaps thought that they could vote

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>for Donald Trump and it wouldn't affect their ability to

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.719
<v Speaker 1>access abortion carepay needed, or starting to realize that's not

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>entirely the case. Regardless of where you live. We've already

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>seen an influx of people going to those progressive quote

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>unquote blue states, and with that influx, it's pushing back,

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, abortion scheduling, so that people who live in

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that state are having to wait longer they're they're going

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 1>to be inundated. And if the Republicans take the House

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and the Senate, they've made it no secret that they

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>are going to try and pass nationwide abortion band so

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>whether you live in California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Connecticut

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>will no longer matter. And so perhaps this is a

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>wake up call for those who didn't listen to the

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>voices in rural and for and predominantly black and brown

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>communities who have said, look, ROW has existed in name

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>only for us since its inception. Maybe they're starting to

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>realize that that what we thought was settled is not.

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>There is no solid ground now it can crumble from

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>underneath you at any moment. It remains to be seen,

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's going to be before itself out

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>in the power in my opinion of storytelling, and that

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>does go back to, you know, being on the ground.

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>And there were so many people sharing their personal stories,

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>so many people who were reaffirming the will to have

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>difficult but they considered to be difficult conversations with people

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>sharing their stories with members of their family that perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't know that they had been impacted by abortion

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<v Speaker 1>pair in some way. If people are willing to have

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<v Speaker 1>those conversations personally with those in their circle, perhaps things

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<v Speaker 1>will change, because I think that is far more powerful

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<v Speaker 1>than listening to those in positions of power who as

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<v Speaker 1>you can mentioned time and time again, have not done

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<v Speaker 1>that much to change the trajection. You know. The other

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I had been thinking about too, is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that even in that speech that Joe Biden gave

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<v Speaker 1>following this um abomination of a decision, he did not

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<v Speaker 1>have the word abortion. So how important for you, for

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<v Speaker 1>for for for the movement? I should say, how important

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<v Speaker 1>is it for the movement at this grave juncture that

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<v Speaker 1>we find ourselves that this administration utter the words right? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>It does? Does it matter at this at this at

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<v Speaker 1>this late stage. Well, I think anyone who's finding for

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<v Speaker 1>any human right will tell you that it does. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just look at the don't say gay bills that are

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<v Speaker 1>talking up in various days to listen to the youth,

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<v Speaker 1>to the people that this is impacting. The most name

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>will tell you it absolutely matters. You say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we call it by its name, You say the word um,

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<v Speaker 1>and so yes, who should be able to say abortion

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<v Speaker 1>as the leader um of the most powerful country and

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<v Speaker 1>the planet of who are one and four people have abortions?

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<v Speaker 1>Where abortion is tantamount in terms of ability to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>caraby of pregnancy and to grow and expand families will

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<v Speaker 1>he I don't think that he will. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen that even the fall of a constitutional right

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<v Speaker 1>own change the Venaco, this president and those within this

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:27.239
<v Speaker 1>cabinet are choosing to use. But I'm also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>listening and reporting and speaking with people who don't care

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>that they're really leading on their own communities. Now there's

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>little faith that this administration will do much. So they're

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>looking inward and looking internally, looking at their neighbors and

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>their friends, and are really focused on building community and

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>within that sharing stories and saying abortion out loud. And

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>so I think that if there is a change, it

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<v Speaker 1>will be when this administration sees the power of community

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<v Speaker 1>and people who are willing to do the work, and

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps then they'll jump up. Danielle, last question for you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess what do you feel right now

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<v Speaker 1>about the future of this country, knowing how radicalized this

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court has become, how personally I believe that this

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<v Speaker 1>administration to be ineffectual, How confident that you are that

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<v Speaker 1>this decision has shaken the foundation of people's understanding of freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>And whether or not they will actually take the necessary

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<v Speaker 1>sustained action to hold elected officials, including this president accountable. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I come at this as a reporter and a member

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<v Speaker 1>of the media, and there's been lots of conversations, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from me to Black Lives Matter to now about our

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<v Speaker 1>rule of it. And I think that one of the

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>important factors of really establishing where this country goes the

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<v Speaker 1>trajectory that we take is our ability to the truth

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<v Speaker 1>and to speak truth to power. And so if this

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<v Speaker 1>administration is going to shore up what fifty years of

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<v Speaker 1>press legal president decided was a constitutional right, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to require bravery and people speaking truth to power, and

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<v Speaker 1>in that means you call a lie a lie and

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you say the truth. And unfortunately, we've seeing whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was January sixth, to the ways in which media covers

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>abortion of both sizing, both sizing certain things and highlighting

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>voices that are inaccurate, that are false, that are just

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>straight up non nonfactual under the guise of neutrality and

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>appearing non products. Soon while you know, make no problems

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<v Speaker 1>about it, there are plenty of people who are very

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<v Speaker 1>happy that we are coming up on a week without

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<v Speaker 1>the construal constitutional right to access abortion. For there are

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of people who argue the bus families safer There

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>are plenty of people who say that this whole harm

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>people who are pregnant in any of them here that

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>they need. But that's not the facts, none of the

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>actual those beliefs are not rooted in fact. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm focused on is making sure that we as

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 1>members of the media meet this moment with facts, with evidence,

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that we do our job to not make things worse. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that the media's obsession with both

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<v Speaker 1>sides is um is why we are in this position

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with. It's why Donald Trump became President of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. It's why they believe that an overqualified

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>woman for this job shouldn't have it. The media is,

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, the third est state, right it is that

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>body that bears responsibility for educating the public. And so

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.800
<v Speaker 1>at this critical juncture, it's like, are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to go off of a cliff or will they

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<v Speaker 1>pull the reins back and realize and assume the responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>that they have. Danielle, I just again, I thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for the work that you do on a

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<v Speaker 1>daily basis, for being on the front lines of this

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>fight for bodily autonomy for abortion for so long, and

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>appreciate all of the time that you've taken throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>years to educate the woke af audience as well as

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>myself on what needs to be done. Just we greatly

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you in sending you love, strength and light as

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<v Speaker 1>we continue to traverse through these really dark times. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, thank you so much for having me. I mean,

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you're a light in the darkness, and I'm so thankful

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>for your voice. And as always, I mean, let's just

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.279
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