1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off right now, and 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: let's talk about something that I think is going to 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: be one of the primary issues and concerns of the 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: entire twenty twenty four election cycle. It's going to effect 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: not just the presidential race, but key Senate race is 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: congressional races, because people realize now that, as the phrase 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: has become one popular, every state is a border state. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Every town is a border town. When you have over 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: six million illegal entries into the country in less than 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: four years, that will probably be seven or eight million 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: by the time we find out who the next president 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: is and who has control of the Congress the next congress. 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: When you're looking at numbers like that, everyone recognizes, or 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: rather anyone who's paying attention recognizes how big a challenge 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: it is and how big of a problem it is 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: for the country. But let's let's put some numbers this, Clay, 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: because there's a bunch of data that has just come 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: out in recent days. And actually, here is a Fox 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: let's start with this when this is cut twenty a 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Fox Business reporter who has done the math on what 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: does it cost the US. As you're thinking about I'm 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: already starting to think about Oh gosh, and I gotta 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: start pulling together all my stuff to file taxes for 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: next year because it takes for evers. It's so complicated. 25 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: What are we paying in this country? What are you 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: paying as the price for everything you need goes up 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: all the time? What are you paying for illegal immigrants? 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: Play twenty We have new numbers, a new report from 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: the US House Committee on Homeland Security. Majority They say 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: the price tag per year is four hundred and fifty 31 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: one billion dollars. That is both for the housing and 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: care of the asylum seekers as well as those known godaways. 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: So we're looking at half a trillion pretty much, getting 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: pretty close there. That seems like it seems like a 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: big deal. Clay, And what I think is so funny 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: is not funny, but interesting is that the way the 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Daily Mail, British news site posed what Texas has done. 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: They said Texas spent is staggering eighty six million dollars 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: busing migrants to New York City, Chicago, Philadelphia, Los Angeles 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: and DC. Meanwhile, places like New York City, which only 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: got a fraction of the migrants, are spending four billion 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: dollars a year twelve billion over three years is the 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: New York City official projection for illegal immigrants. They're cost 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: their housing and they're saying, whoh, Texas spent eighty million dollars. Yeah, 45 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: I'd much rather have my state budget get hit for 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: eighty million and not have to worry about the problem 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: than have to spend four billion. You know, we're not 48 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: big numbers, guys, but these numbers are pretty easy. 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, the math isn't that hard to add up when 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: it's going out as opposed to coming in. And you know, 51 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: this is becoming a political albatross for Joe Biden. Buck 52 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: because I read a story I think on say maybe 53 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: it was yesterday saying that there's quiet momentum to basically 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: end the asylum rules and start to modify them so 55 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: that you can't just claim asylum and immediately get into 56 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 3: the country. And that is a sign of how politically 57 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: toxic this is for Joe Biden is in his administration. 58 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: The piece in the Wall Street Journal, I think you're 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: referring to have in front of me senator's top target 60 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: in border talks, tighter asylum rules for migrants. This is 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: what I've been pounding the table about here, not just 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: on this show for years because people will talk about 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: they'll talk about border security and they'll say the wall, 64 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: and they'll say, we need more border patrol agents, got 65 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: to stop the fentinel, gotta deal with the cartels. All 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: of that is true. But if people can show up 67 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: at our border, flag down border patrol, there's people need 68 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: to understand the gotaways are separate issue. The drug cartel, 69 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: drug smuggling, that's a separate related but a separate issue. 70 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: Most of the people that are doing a legal. 71 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: Entry show up and say, hi, I have a fear 72 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: of persecution in my home country and I want asylum. 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: And that is it. 74 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: That's all they have to do. And then they get processed, 75 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: they get led into the country. Maybe they get a 76 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: ticket to a pier, maybe they don't. They just told 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: the check in to some immigration facility on their own, 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: and they just disappear into the American interior. 79 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: If you don't. 80 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: Change that clay, nothing else we do with the border matters. 81 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: You can build a one hundred, You could have. 82 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: A you know, a wall, a moat, you could have 83 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: all the drones and security imaginable. If you can get 84 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: waved down and say, hey, guys, I'm at a port 85 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: of entry. I'm just gonna walk in now, and you're 86 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna give me asylum or just find a place where 87 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: there's you know, a space in the wall or whatever. 88 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: Then it doesn't change. Democrats realize this to your point. 89 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Washington Post published just a few days ago and our 90 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: ed just with some of the numbers here showing that 91 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: Democrats are very concerned about this one. But I'll just 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: give you this, fifty three percent of New York Democrats 93 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: say that New York has done enough for migrants and 94 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: needs to stop the flow of New York Democrats. 95 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is where you know that it's a 96 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: major issue. When Eric Adams and in New York City, 97 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: and when you've got all of these different big city 98 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: mayors suddenly lining up. Muriel Bowser, I think, is the 99 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 3: mayor of Washington, DC lining up and saying this isn't 100 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: working for us. We've got to fix it. And I 101 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: don't think we even hardly talked about this on the 102 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 3: program very much. Buck, But how about the fact that 103 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: Eric Adams, who has been probably the biggest outspoken opponent 104 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: to the migrant situation in America big city mayor, got 105 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: his top campaign fundraiser rated on the day he was 106 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: supposed to speak about the migrant crisis in DC. He 107 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: cancels everything. Then the FBI seizes his phones and his 108 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: iPad as a part of an investigation into whether or 109 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: not he's received improper campaign donations from Turkey. This to 110 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: me again, it's not even Biden just weaponizing his Department 111 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: of Justice against the political party and opposition to him. 112 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: It's also anyone inside the Democrat Party who raises any 113 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: sort of issues with the way this thing is going. 114 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: But you're starting to see in the numbers. We talked 115 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 3: about the polls earlier for Joe Biden. One of the 116 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: real issues that Biden has is he's hemorrhaging minority support, Black, Asian, Hispanic. 117 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: They are leaving the Democrat Party according to these polls, 118 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: at levels that we have not seen before. And much 119 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: of it, I think buck is in Chicago and in 120 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: New York City and in Washington, d C. And a 121 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: lot of these big cities that are overloaded with my ignorance. 122 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: Minorities are looking around and saying, wait a minute, you're 123 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: spending billions of dollars on illegal immigrants and our communities 124 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: aren't taken care of. That's a conflict. Again, it's the 125 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: identity politics coalition of the Democrat party coming into direct 126 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: conflict with each other, and you have to pick a side. 127 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: It's white liberals in rich Democrat enclaves of the country 128 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: who are the open borders people. They're the ones who 129 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: want the open borders overwhelmingly. They'll fund organizations that maybe 130 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: have somebody who you know, is like a Latino spokesperson 131 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: or something to help with border communities, whatever it may be. 132 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: But they ultimately it is the Pelosis and the Shoomers 133 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: of the world who want open borders. 134 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: Let's be honest. 135 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: They want it because the donor class wants it. They 136 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: want they're on board with this. But to your point 137 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: about about minority support for it, a lot of minorities, 138 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: I think rightly. I mean when I say minorities, Black Americans, 139 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: Latino Americans and you know other groups you could put 140 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: in the same on the same side of this are 141 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: looking at You're spending billions of dollars. People aren't even 142 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: supposed to be in the country legally, right And I 143 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: think some immigrants too even realize. Hold on a second, 144 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: I went through some process. I had to wait years, 145 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: I had to pay immigration lawyers. I could have just said, oh, 146 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm scared to be in my home country. 147 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: Is it true or not? 148 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: Who cares? 149 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: I think lying should matter. By the way, lying to 150 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: federal officials is actually a crime. Just I know, we 151 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: only enforced laws very selectively now in the new era 152 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: of America we're in. But you know, social Security card presentation, fraud, 153 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: signing documents that say you're a citizen or that you 154 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: are legally working here, these are all crimes. Lying to 155 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: immigration officials of the border that's a crime. Entering the 156 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: US without permission, crossing our federal boundary at the southern border, 157 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: that's a crime. 158 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: These are all violations of law. Why are we not 159 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: supposed to care. 160 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to pay my taxes, but all the illegal 161 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: stuff that's going on with immigration, that's supposed to be 162 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: fine based on what based on the power needs of 163 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Democrat's I don't sign on to that one. 164 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: I can't say that's okay with me. 165 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: I also wonder to what extent, you know, Trump did 166 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: everything that the Republican Party brain trust said he should 167 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: not do in twenty sixteen, and he won. And not 168 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: only did he win, he's increased his minority support as 169 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: people have become more aware of him and aware of 170 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: his policies. Twenty twenty now twenty twenty four. I think 171 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: the numbers are reflecting that if Trump's the nominee, he 172 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: will have more minority support than maybe any Republican has 173 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: ever had among black voters, for instance, and certainly Hispanic 174 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: vote is increasing. I wonder if if Democrats buck ever 175 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 3: start to look back at these these numbers, because here's 176 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: the reality of y Can I give you some of 177 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: the numbers real, real quick? Yeah? 178 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, because the Washington Post wrote this off ed 179 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: and this is why there are at least they at 180 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: least have to make the noise. This always happens in 181 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: election cycles. Democrats go, we care about the border too, 182 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: and okay, maybe this kind of They start, they start 183 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: pivoting a little bit toward the center because the country, 184 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: all the polling shows this, the country is not with 185 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: them on this open border stuff. They lie about it. 186 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: They try to come up with polls like, oh, do 187 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: you like immigrants or not? Well, that's not what the 188 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: issue is. The issue is illegal immigration on our southern border. 189 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: That's a violation of law and exploitation of asylum okay, 190 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: majority of Democrats. Okay, this is a Fox News poll, 191 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: but earlier this month, the majority of Democrats very concerned 192 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: about border security. Quinnipiac polling this month, seventy one percent 193 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: of Independence and thirty percent of Democrats disapproved of Biden's 194 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: handling of immigration. I say, okay, only thirty percent disapprove 195 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: of Biden overall on this seventy one percent of Independence. 196 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: That's a rough number for these Democrats going into the 197 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: election year. 198 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: Even thirty percent of your own political party disapproving of 199 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: your position on something. I mean, I think the numbers 200 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: reflect that immigration is the single weakest of all of 201 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: Joe Biden's policies in terms of independence and national response. 202 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: And so that's why they're trying to figure out a 203 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: way to take action on what's going on in our 204 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 3: southern border. The challenge, and as you well know, Buck, 205 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: the challenge here is will anything get passed? Who knows? 206 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: And the problem is it takes months for the action 207 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: to have consequences in terms of border flow, and in 208 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 3: the meantime, we've got eight million people across the border. 209 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: I do think one of the ultimate plays here has 210 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: been all of these people are going to come to 211 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: the country and they're likely Democrat voters, and this will 212 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: guarantee that we win elections long into the future. I 213 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: don't think there's any doubt that that is the calculus 214 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: behind why these open border policies are in many ways embraced. 215 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: The challenge is, what if that calculus is wrong. What 216 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: if really the population is increasing and the numbers are 217 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: roughly staying the same in terms of Hispanic support for 218 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: Democrats and Republicans, hech what if as Hispanics live in 219 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: the country, they become more conservative. I'm talking about legal 220 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: immigrants because they look around and they say, there's a 221 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: lot of craziness in the Democrat Party right now, and 222 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: I think it's going to take at some point a 223 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: This is my theory, and I've had this theory for 224 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: a while. The identity politics coalition of the Democrat Party 225 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 3: is not sustainable. At some point, it's going to explode 226 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: and feed on itself. Maybe Israel, the situation there is 227 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: starting to accelerate that. But certainly we had already seen 228 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 3: minority voters fleeing before we even got to this situation. 229 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: And I think the border is a big reason why. 230 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: I hope so we do get excited about this stuff. 231 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: I feel like every election cycle and there'll probably be 232 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: some nonprofit that comes forward that's like, we're going to win, 233 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: we're going to win the Black American vote this year 234 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: as Republicans, or we're going to get you know, sixty 235 00:12:58,880 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: five percent of lets. 236 00:12:59,720 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 5: You know. 237 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it never somehow never materializes, but maybe 238 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: this time around will actually make some headway. 239 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: It'll make the difference. 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New aproject dot com 258 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: paid for by Brownstone Research. 259 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: One of the big topics we've been discussing, frankly for 260 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: a couple of years plus on this show now is 261 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: the toxicity of identity politics. And I think a lot 262 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: of you out there listening, maybe you hadn't really noticed it, 263 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: maybe you weren't even listening to the show, because we've 264 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: certainly added a lot of people as listeners over the 265 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: nearly three years now that Buck and I have been 266 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: doing this program together for all of you, and the 267 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: view had an interesting discussion. You may have noticed that 268 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: all these organizations that defend women, not only are they 269 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: always silent on men identifying as women in becoming women's 270 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: sports champions. Isn't it interesting that no women's groups ever 271 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: demean or attack or an anyway comments on the idea 272 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: of a man identifying as a woman becoming a woman 273 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: of the year. What about all the awful sexual assaults, 274 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: the rapes, the depredations that have been inflicted upon Israeli 275 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: women by Hamas. There's been no condemnation by any of 276 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: these ostensible women's rights groups. And our good friends at 277 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: the View, led by Whoope Goldberg, had a discussion about 278 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: that silence, and here's what Whoopee had to say. I 279 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: am still devastated. 280 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 6: We're two months since this war has been underway by 281 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 6: the silence from women's group in this country about the 282 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 6: rape being used as an act of war in this attack, 283 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 6: the fact that sexual violence was used against Israeli women 284 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 6: in the major women's groups in. 285 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: This country have not come out and denounced it. 286 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 6: This week in Cheryl Sandberg put out a gripping video 287 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 6: calling for it. That violates every rule of warfare. It 288 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 6: is the height of immorality. And the fact that the 289 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 6: United Nations Entity for Gender Equality and Women Empowerment has 290 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 6: been silent, the You and Committee on Elimination of Discrimination 291 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 6: against Women has been silent, and the International me To Movement. 292 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 5: Had Perhaps the reason they've been silenced is for the 293 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: same reason that you just described. 294 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 6: They don't want to eat well, they don't want to. 295 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Exacerbate that's that's that's delusion. First of all, good, good 296 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: for a listen, par for bringing this up. A couple 297 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: things play. One is that the uh, the leftist institutional, 298 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: the institutional feminist left is a fraud. The institutional feminist 299 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: left is a fraud. Trust me as somebody who was 300 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: walking around in Afghanistan not too long ago, watching women 301 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: in burkas everywhere and wondering, hey, hold on a second, 302 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: where's all the international feminist coalitions on this issue, never 303 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: mind all the horrible things they can do to women 304 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. This is before the Taliban took over, by 305 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: the way, But you know, put that aside for a moment. 306 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: Any Muslim country, by the way, where women are oppressed, 307 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: which is basically all Muslim countries, you know, they won't 308 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: talk about that. But I think she hit something. I 309 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: want to come back to this clay. She She touches 310 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: on a very important point, which is, as we're now 311 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: being to gauge the morality of the Israeli response visa VI, 312 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: what happened from the mass casualty terror attack of Hamas. Okay, well, 313 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: let's actually have that conversation. As I said yesterday, there's 314 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: only one side that kidnaps four year olds and terrorizes 315 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: them and uses them as leverage by threatening to murder 316 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: them in negotiations. There's only one side here, Israel, between 317 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: Israel and Hamas that engages in systematic rape campaigns to 318 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: terrify people. 319 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: It's not the Israelis. 320 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 3: They can't speak out, Buck because the wrong people are bad. 321 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: And again, this is what happens when the identity politics 322 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: coalition collapses. Credit to the view for actually pointing that 323 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: out for their audience can't believe it. 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Remember enter that promo code Clay 341 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: and Buck one more time mypillo dot com promo code 342 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: Clayan Bucks. So we're talking about the big debate, global 343 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: debate that is happening every day now over the Israeli 344 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: response to Hamas's October seventh mass casualty terror attack, mass 345 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 3: murder and mass rape terror attack. 346 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: And I do think that that does not get brought 347 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: into the conversation enough. I appreciate that Douglas Murray made 348 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: the point and this went very viral. We played this 349 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: for you on the show, that it is a historical 350 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: fact that there were there were high level Nazis who 351 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: recognized that what they were doing was evil. 352 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 4: They still did it. 353 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: This is not in any way mitigating the evil of 354 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,479 Speaker 1: what they did, but they recognize the evil and so 355 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: some of them had to turn to extremely high levels 356 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: of drinking. They would have to get very very drunk 357 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: before they would do some of the executions. Again, Doug 358 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: Murray talked about this and we played that clip for 359 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: you on the show, and you can then compare that 360 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: with the reports and the audio of Hamas terrorists calling 361 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: their parents to say, I just cut the head off 362 00:19:58,600 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: of a Jew. 363 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 4: I'm a hero. Now, I mean the true. 364 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: Vile psychopathy that is not only celebrated by members of Hamas, 365 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: but there's broad support for Hamas inside of Gaza, which 366 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: you will also not hear very much. Now, these are 367 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: uncomfortable truths, but these are realities as well. And if 368 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: you've seen some of the videos of the Israeli hostages 369 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: being taken away to be traded and the way that 370 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: people on the street in Gaza respond to this, you 371 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: know they basically act like you know, they're an angry, 372 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: jeering mob at these hostages who have been taken. So 373 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: Piers Morgan, who sometimes says things that I agree with, 374 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: sometimes says things that I think you're very dumb, and 375 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: I would say that to him if you were here 376 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: on the show. We'll probably have him on at some point. 377 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: Occasionally he's right. Sometimes he's a buffoon, or I should 378 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: say his opinions I feel are deeply ignorant and very wrong. 379 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: Buffoon is You know that's a little. 380 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 3: Unfair, But here he is not an unintelligent guy. 381 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: That's what I mean. That correct. 382 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: I think he's deeply wrong on some things. I'm not 383 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: saying he's a dumb guy, but I think he's right 384 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: on some things too. We've played when he's right. Here 385 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: he is though he's asking a question. I think we 386 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: should try to answer this question about when is Israel 387 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: going too far? 388 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: Place seven. 389 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 7: I've been picked up this weekend by people reminding me 390 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 7: of tweets from twenty fourteen. Back then Israel launched a 391 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 7: massive bombardment of guards from response to the murder of 392 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 7: three Israeli teenagers in the West Bank. What happened? I'm asked, 393 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 7: why did I change my position? Well, haven't changed my position. 394 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 7: Israel committed atrocities in twenty fourteen. In my estimation, it 395 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 7: was a completely disproportionate response to what had happened. It 396 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 7: looked more like revenge to me than a military strategy. 397 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 7: And President Obama told him to call it off. We'll 398 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 7: doing that at bombardment. And I asked, at what point 399 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 7: does Israel's current military strategy become the very terrorism professes 400 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 7: to be fighting. And today I'm beginning to ask myself 401 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 7: that exact same question. 402 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: Now, Clay, I could cite another British voice on this 403 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: one who has since passed away, Christopher Hitchins, who, while 404 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: again wrong on some things, understood the threat of radical 405 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: Islam very well and said that the root fallacy in 406 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: the fight against radical Islam is that the fighting against 407 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: terrorism is the cause of it, and that this is 408 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: very popular on the left. You'll often see this, this 409 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: leftist in this country college campuses, leftists in the media. 410 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: You know, they'll say, well, for every terrist we kill, 411 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: we create one hundred more. For example, Well, what are 412 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: we supposed to do then, what is the response supposed 413 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: to be when they invade your country effectively and rape 414 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: and murder to the greatest degree they possibly can civilians. 415 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: Then we go to the negotiating table and say, you 416 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: know what, We're going to send you more aid, We're 417 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: going to give you more money. No, you have to 418 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: go and kill them. Elon Musk just visited Israel. Here's 419 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: what he says. Cut six. He understands this moment. 420 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 5: There are three things that need to happen in the 421 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 5: cause of the situation. I mean, there's no choice but 422 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 5: to kill those who insist on murdering civilians. There's no choice. 423 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 5: They're not going to change their mind. And then the 424 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 5: second thing is to change the education so that a 425 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 5: new generation of murderers is not trained to be murderous. 426 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 5: And then the third thing, it's also very important, is 427 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 5: to try to build prosperity. 428 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: It's basically saying you've got to fix Gaza, and it's 429 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: on Gaza to be fixed because the rock stretches far 430 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: beyond Hamas Clay to the question appears we're gonna asks 431 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: or that he's raising, when does Israel? When does the 432 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: Israeli response become terrorism? It becomes terrorism when Israel decides 433 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: they're going to kill as many civilians as they possibly can, 434 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: which they don't do, so it is not terrorism. 435 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: Now, you're one hundred percent right. And I think it's 436 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 3: important to point out that Elon Musk is being characterized 437 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: as an anti Semite and that there are a lot 438 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: of different brands that are pulling their advertising off of 439 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: Twitter because he has been unwilling to tiptoe up to 440 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: the truth here, which is good and evil exists, and 441 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 3: I think maybe this is you know, I had this 442 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: conversation with some people around Thanksgiving. I hope some of 443 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: you did with your kids and your grandkids. The illusion 444 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 3: that everything is gray, that is, there is no black 445 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: and white, there is no good and evil has I 446 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: think taken over much of the United States. And I 447 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: think it's because, by and large, and I'm curious if 448 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: you would agree with this thesis, Buck, most Americans thankfully 449 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: do not experience evil in our day to day life. 450 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 3: Most now. Occasionally you or your close relatives, your friends, 451 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 3: your family may be a victim of some sort of 452 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: violent crime, and you may for a pen prick of 453 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: time stare into what it is to see evil in 454 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 3: this country. But I think most Americans we have created 455 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: a society, particularly if you are wealthy or you are 456 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 3: upper middle class, where actual evil doesn't exist in your life, 457 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: and kids need to buy into the idea. I think 458 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: that they are on the side of truth and justice. 459 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: That's part of growing up, that you are going to 460 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: fight for a cause, and the cause isn't actually anything 461 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 3: in the good and evil realm. It's oh my goodness, 462 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 3: somebody has a different opinion than me on social media, 463 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: and so they aren't able to even recognize evil when 464 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 3: they see it, which is scary. 465 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: That's the critical point because when you said that, they 466 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: don't believe that there's evil. No, No, they just don't 467 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: recognize what is evil and have replaced it with fashions 468 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: and widespread trends and sort of a mass delusion theory 469 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: about things like you know, you're you're literally committing genocide, 470 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: they will say against trans people by negating their transition 471 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: or negating their you know, their gender pronouns. 472 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: I mean, this is crazy. They believe this. 473 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: You're actually helping bring about the end of humanity if 474 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: you don't address the imminent threat of climate change, which 475 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: is insane. I mean, these are crazy itea is. But 476 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: what they've done is that impulse that we have that 477 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: we all have as human beings, I think, to do 478 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: good and to fight against evil. They've replaced what is 479 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: good and evil in their minds, and the left adopts 480 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: a philosophy of moral relativity and collectivism. So they sign 481 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: onto these things, they sign onto the battle against these 482 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: these great evils in their minds that in some cases 483 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: are entirely just entirely irrelevant I mean it's a phantom, 484 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: but also makes them useful Saulolynski style for the mobilization 485 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: against political opponents. And in this case, their political opponents 486 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: are people like you and me and this audience who 487 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: recognize that Hamas are the bad guys and all this 488 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: other talk about, oh, but they're oppressed, or look at 489 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: history or it's great or whatever. 490 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 4: No. 491 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: No, at some point, the guy who's breaking into a 492 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: house to murder the whole family and steal everything they 493 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: have is. 494 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: Just the bad guy. 495 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 496 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 4: I don't care how he grew up. I don't care 497 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 4: what was done to him twenty years ago. I don't 498 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 4: care about you know, historical oppression or whatever. He's just 499 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 4: a bad guy. 500 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: And you want to help that homeowner defend himself and 501 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: eliminate the for civilization. 502 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and increasingly, it seems to me, and we'll talk 503 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: about this some in the third hour. The left focuses 504 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 3: on things that are not actual crimes and treats them 505 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 3: as moral, morally and defensible, like this little kid painting 506 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: his face and go into a football game while refusing 507 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: to condemn actual violence. And here's the reality. Everybody before 508 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: us was not an imbecile right. Part of I think 509 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 3: conservatism in general is presuming that people who lived and 510 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 3: died before you were not all total morons, that they 511 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 3: did understand some of what it was to be human. 512 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: But the entire precept of our criminal justice code, to 513 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: your point, is that we rank violence and treat violent 514 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: crimes differently. Murder in the first degree is different than jaywalking, right, 515 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: And the punishments for crimes should be commensurate with the 516 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: quality and severity of those crimes. And we don't even 517 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: we're not able to do that in this day and age, 518 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 3: younger people have lost that ability. 519 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 520 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: An un understanding of degree and severity is I think 521 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: one of the most important things that you can have 522 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: as a judgment. I mean to be able to be 523 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: a person of judgment or a nation that can exercise judgment, 524 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: who can understand that there are things that can be 525 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: broadly similar, but there are critical distinctions within them. I 526 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: give a perfect example. I mean the Soviets when they 527 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: were running anti Us proper Ganda and don't even get 528 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: me started. 529 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 4: On Oppenheimer again, that Kami Trash movie. 530 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: But when they're running you know, propaganda, they would always 531 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: talk about America's. 532 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: History of. 533 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 4: Slavery. 534 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, well, they're doing this in the 535 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, nineteen eighties. Why they're talking about 536 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: America's history of slavery, and anytime they would be pressed 537 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: on an issue, they would revert. 538 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 4: The same thing. 539 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: In Cuba, all the worst dictators, all the worst authoritarians, 540 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: they will find those who actually stand for freedom and 541 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: point out that they are imperfect and then say, so 542 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: we don't have to Ahmedinajod you remember him, Yeah, leader 543 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: of Iran back in the day, invited to Columbia University 544 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven. I'll never forget this. I 545 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: was still at the CIA at the time. I was 546 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: just reading about the newspapers. Akhmedinajod, president of Iran, shows 547 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: up at Columbia University, and you know, all those kids 548 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: are there to hear about Oh yeah, like oppression and 549 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: the Zionist entity, and we see what goes on campuses. 550 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: But they realize Hold on a second. When he was 551 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: asked about gay people in his country and opression of gays. 552 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: You know what he said, right, we don't have any 553 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: gay people. 554 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember that, And all. 555 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: Of a sudden, the left was like, oh, wait a second, 556 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: Wait a second, because he's an evil man representing an 557 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: evil regime, and his criticisms of the US are made 558 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: in entirely bad faith, very similar to what I see 559 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: going on with Hamas and the Palestinian cause. By the way, 560 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: all these people say, oh, you just want all the 561 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: Palestinians to die. Anyone who says that on my Twitter 562 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: mentions is a moron. I don't even engage with them 563 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: because of course that's not true. And if Israel wanted 564 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: every Palestinian to die in Gaza, you know what, they 565 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: could do exactly that, but they don't want to do 566 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: that because they try to act with morality. China to 567 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: build on your analogy. In its most recent one of 568 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: its most recent meetings with America, spent almost the entire 569 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: meeting in the public sphere arguing that America didn't have 570 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: to be accepted because of its legacy of racism. Yeah, 571 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what you mean, the Hamas Israel thing, 572 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: And be like if you sat down with somebody Clay, 573 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: who's a serial killer, and you're like, why do you 574 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: kill all those people? And he's like, Clay, why did 575 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: you speed five years ago? You're a criminal too. Yeah, well, 576 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: but that's not how morality works, folks, is it. But 577 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: you look at the left. That's exactly what they're doing 578 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: now with Israel and Palestine. And when is it terrorism? 579 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: When Israel responds, you know when you see it, and 580 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: what they're doing is a military campaign to destroy a 581 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: terrorist entity that's a continuous threat to the Israeli people. 582 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: All right, eight hundred two eight two two eight at 583 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: two in those lines, give us call, let us know 584 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: what you think. You know, what are the greatest joys 585 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: you can give your family is the ability to relive 586 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: precious memories. 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Did you grow up a fan of Macho Man, 606 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: Randy Savage, of Hul Cogan, Hacksaw, Jim Drug and cocob 607 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: Ware that era? That was oh Man, Ravishing, Rick Ruth, Yes, 608 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: super Fly, Jimmy snook Othough, I know things took a 609 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 3: very bad turn there, all those guys, the British Bulldog. 610 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 3: I love bulldogs, so that was exciting. 611 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I did grow up watching that. I 612 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: was a huge Hulk Hogan fan. 613 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: How many people do you think listening to us right 614 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: now watched last night WWE raw. What percentage of our 615 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: audience the overlap. 616 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 4: Five or ten? 617 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's probably about right. I was there 618 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: last night with my kids. They did their show from Nashville. 619 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 3: It is so much fun. And I was watching. I 620 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: grew up, like you did, a fan of wrestling. And 621 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: also remember, you know, I didn't pay attention for a 622 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: long time, and then my kids got really into it 623 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: and so we went back through all the old wrestlers 624 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: and everything else. I'm not sure anybody in entertainment is 625 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: better for their fans than wrestlings then wrestling and wrestling entertainers. 626 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: They're like, they are so good at the entertainment aspect 627 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 3: of what they do. And obviously they're athletes and they 628 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: have to be strong and physically fit and all those things. 629 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: But we had an incredible time at this event, and 630 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 3: it was family friendly. It was it was fantastic and 631 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 3: I was watching and I was thinking, wrestling is it 632 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: the only thing that has never really had any controversial, 633 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 3: you know, scandal associated with it, leaving aside like steroids 634 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: and the weightlifting and all those things. Right, but there 635 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 3: are no storylines that pit people against each other in wrestling. 636 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 3: It's just good and bad, right. They have the good 637 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 3: guy and the bad guy. Maybe back in the day 638 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: you had like the iron cheek stuff like that, but 639 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 3: it's very like nineteen seventies nineteen eighties Pro America and. 640 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: What do you call the guy who's supposed to lose? 641 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: I always felt bad for the heel. The heel well, 642 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, the hell's the bag? I mean the 643 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: guy who just runs out there so Hulk Hogan can 644 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: body slam him ten times. 645 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 3: I don't even have very many of them those guys anymore. 646 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: They have people you didn't know. 647 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 4: I think it was pretty much everybody originally. 648 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: The way they built these guys up was there were 649 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: the dudes who just went out there with you know, 650 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: a man KINI and you know, and like the boots 651 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: or whatever, and and would just get get crushed, you know, 652 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: just get. 653 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 4: Over and over again. 654 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: And you know the guy that it would be like 655 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan and he was I was like, raw, it's amazing, 656 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: Rivers T shirt. 657 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 4: And then they'd be like and John from Accounting and this. 658 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: Guy would like come running out and he's got like 659 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: he's kind of pasty and looks like he hasn't worked 660 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: out much and he just gets crushed. 661 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: They don't really have as many of those guys anymore. 662 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 3: I think they have pretty much. You know, both sides 663 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 3: are bonafide and known by the audience at this point 664 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 3: in time. But we also got to meet jelly Roll. 665 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: I know you have no idea who jelly Roll is, Buck, 666 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 3: but he is a famous country music singer. Now he 667 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 3: was fabulous to my kids, just an awesome time. But 668 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 3: I was actually curious how many of our listeners watch 669 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 3: w UE. So if you do, hop in my mentions, 670 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 3: his name is jelly Roll. Jelly Roll. 671 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 4: Wow, I mean we have a jelly Thanksgiving. 672 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, well he's got he's got a few lbs 673 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 3: that he could lose. I think he would acknowledge that. 674 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 3: But he won Best Album, Best New Artist I think 675 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 3: award at the CMAS, and uh is pretty well known 676 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: at this point. But he was fantastic. Just an awesome night. 677 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 3: We come back. Something that's not awesome a kid getting 678 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 3: ripped for not something he didn't do. Lade Travis and 679 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 3: Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.