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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, we are unpaywalling another episode from the Patreon.

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Speaker 1: This is a new show called Never Heard Of Them.

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Speaker 1: It's a music chat podcast hosted by Asan Williams and

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Speaker 1: Jacob Weisaki, two podcast heavy hitters in my humble opinion,

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Speaker 1: and I always try to be humble with you, It's

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Speaker 1: one of my greatest qualities. Each episode, they discuss what

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Speaker 1: tunes they've been listening to and talk to their guests

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Speaker 1: about a genre they love and then one they don't

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Speaker 1: really mess with. Previous guests include Nicole Byer, Alana Johnston,

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Speaker 1: Betsy Sadaro, Carl Tart, Tonnie Newsom, Matt Appadaka, and I

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Speaker 1: believe that's every episode we've done so far until today

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Speaker 1: with the boys, and next week is their season finale

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Speaker 1: with two icons in my humbly opinion. So if you

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Speaker 1: like this episode and want to check out the rest

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Speaker 1: of the season, go to patreon dot com, slash the

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Speaker 1: flager Ones and check out Never Heard of Them on

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Speaker 1: the bundle tear Thank you so much and enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of them, I've never heard of them.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of them.

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Speaker 3: No, why the.

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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to Never Heard Of them.

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Speaker 5: I'm Jacob Eisaki, I'm a San. The DJ was up everybody.

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Speaker 2: What's up everyone?

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Speaker 4: For those of you that have maybe never heard the

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Speaker 4: pod before, this is a pod about talking tunes.

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Speaker 5: Me and a San.

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Speaker 4: We we listen to some we talk about what we've

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Speaker 4: been listening to, what we've been chewing on for the week.

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Speaker 4: We have guests on and they talk about their musical

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Speaker 4: interests and genres that they may not circle much, and

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Speaker 4: we try to expose them to that genre. Then we

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Speaker 4: play a little game and we go home.

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Speaker 5: Everybody goes to bed. Kunk chuw, kunk chuo, kunk chew.

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Speaker 2: We go to bed immediately after this.

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Speaker 5: Yes, strict bedtime. Did I nail that?

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Speaker 2: I feel like you nailed it. I needed a great job.

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Speaker 2: You have a great radio voice.

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Speaker 5: Do you have any addendums?

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Speaker 2: No, no addendums, nothing to add, no new notes, no

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Speaker 2: new minutes. Okay, Yeah, I think we're good. We're caught

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Speaker 2: up from last week.

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Speaker 4: I think cool up for re election?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What what have you been chewing on this week? You

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Speaker 2: want to get right into it?

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Speaker 5: You know, ask me how I am first?

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Speaker 2: Oh, excuse me? How are you this tic of Hey?

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Speaker 4: I'm good and uh, I'm even better because I'm about

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Speaker 4: to crack into a Liquid Death. You know you're one

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Speaker 4: of those guys I'm cracking in. I'm a true hardcore fan.

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Speaker 4: I drink Liquid Death. It's my favorite water. It's the

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Speaker 4: best water. If liquid desks out there, if they're listening

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Speaker 4: and they want to send me a case, you know

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Speaker 4: you can at me.

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Speaker 5: But I'm living my life. I've got my Liquid Death.

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Speaker 5: Everything's good.

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Speaker 2: Are you? Are you wearing Mui tai shorts as well

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my ears are calliflowered. I've taken an absolute beating

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Speaker 4: in the NFT game and my tesla won't charge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, damn hard life.

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Speaker 5: It's tough. It's tough.

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Speaker 4: Just really want Liquid Death to send me a crate.

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Speaker 4: All drinking a bottle of an episode?

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Speaker 2: Are you? Are you drinking the still one, the flat

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Speaker 2: one or the flat.

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Speaker 4: Flat flat one? Yeah, I'm not fancy like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't really get into sparkling water. I don't really

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Speaker 2: see the point.

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Speaker 4: Just give me that good spring water with a high TDS.

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Speaker 4: You know what is dissolved solids. Oh yeah, that's how

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Speaker 4: you know it's good.

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Speaker 2: It's Oh, you want that to be a high number.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's typically it's typically better if it's high.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, what can I say?

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Speaker 4: I'm a water guy, lick with death, and uh I

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Speaker 4: am a little naisily. I got a new couch and

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Speaker 4: the like warehouse fumes have really set off my allergies

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Speaker 4: in a negative way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you pop on a leggy today.

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Speaker 5: Clareton D Dude, I'm a I'm a meth baby. I'm

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 5: How are you? Man?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm I did not get a new couch.

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Speaker 2: I'm the same old, dusty, busty couch. What else I'm

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Speaker 2: good though? Otherwise, man, I can't complain. Just hanging in.

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Speaker 5: There, Thank god, Thank God.

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Speaker 4: It's sturdy.

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Speaker 5: He's my voice. Sturdy.

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Speaker 2: I'm sturdy. I got strong knees. I can drop it low.

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Speaker 2: I will not waiver, I will not quiver. I got worried.

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Speaker 5: I've been worried all week that you wouldn't be sturdy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sturdy though, I'm holding there. I'm like a

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Speaker 2: like an antique table. I'm just I'm solid.

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Speaker 5: Well, we you know, we we did good there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did a great job.

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Speaker 4: We did a great job. I'm just gonna compliment myself

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Speaker 4: this entire episode.

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Speaker 5: I think maybe.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta hype yourself up. Baby. No one else

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, Let's get into what we've been chewing on.

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Speaker 2: Huh yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 4: I think I sent you the most amazing song that's

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Speaker 4: ever been written in the world. Yeah, I think I

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Speaker 4: sent you a It might as well be a hymn.

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Speaker 4: It should be a forever song, right.

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Speaker 2: Uh? So, I remember you sent me the song by

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Speaker 2: Blind Fury. I remember this guy. He was on American Idol. Right.

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Speaker 4: No, so I sent you cigarettes and ip as by

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Speaker 4: Blind Fury.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm just trying to forget Jay smokes cigarettes and

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Speaker 6: dragging up digging about the days when you were men.

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Speaker 5: Now Vegan Bellway.

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Speaker 4: When I was it's a country, right, But Blind Fury, Uh,

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Speaker 4: maybe he was on that, but he rose to fame

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Speaker 5: Oh six in Park Oh as a rapper.

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Speaker 4: He was on freestyle Fridays that he was a truly

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Speaker 4: prolific freestyle rapper. And that's where I heard about Blind

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Speaker 4: Fury And if I followed that career since like twenty

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Speaker 4: he's from South Carolina, Lougoff. He's always been kind of

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Speaker 4: music and it's pot it's breaking my heart.

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Speaker 2: Is you know what, I liked it. I'm a sucker.

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Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for that kind of country too. Uh huh,

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Speaker 2: like the sort of like the you know, the the

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Speaker 5: Heart strings, there's some awareness. Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 2: I like that genre of country. I don't like country

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Speaker 2: that takes itself way too seriously.

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Speaker 5: No, And I think like I think he knows what

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Speaker 4: Is like I'm gonna make some commercial yes, fun country music.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 6: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was into it.

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Speaker 5: Man, it just gets me in my feels, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's just one of those things that's like, this

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Speaker 4: is one of those songs where you're like, oh, whoops,

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Speaker 4: I drank twelve beers, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Fuck, I'm gonna pitch you a song. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: pitch you a song based on this song. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: put you in the Never Heard of Them hot seat.

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Speaker 2: If you like this, you should listen to a song

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Speaker 2: called five More Minutes by Scottie McCreery. He was on

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Speaker 2: American Idol. I think one of those. Yeah, and he

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Speaker 5: It's all about is he the low voice guy?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, remember good older creery dude. Yeah, American Idol back

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Speaker 4: when it meant something, back when it mattered.

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Speaker 2: I'm more of a justin gariny guy. But I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna hold you if I mean you know, I'm a

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Speaker 2: rubin dude. Sorry for two thousand and four. We should

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Speaker 2: have a whole.

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Speaker 4: Season where we just do American Idol and nobody listens.

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Speaker 5: So what American Idol season? Have you been chewing on?

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Speaker 5: A song?

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Speaker 2: That'd be sick. There has to be an American Idol

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Speaker 2: pod out there already, but if there isn't, we should

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Speaker 2: start it.

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Speaker 5: I guarantee you there's too many?

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Speaker 2: How many is too many? When we're talking about American Idol?

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Speaker 2: Come on four four? Because how different can it be?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 4: I can see three unique American Idol podcasts. Only I

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Speaker 4: thought I was being generous.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out on a lamb and say, there's

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Speaker 2: probably three really good ones there.

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Speaker 4: I can imagine they're being room for three good American

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Speaker 4: idol podcasts. Yea, A deep dive like where are they now?

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Speaker 4: And then like a current season gossip queen.

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Speaker 2: Style yea x xoxo Idol Queens Queens.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm with a seventeen dollars Patreon. Uh. Anyways,

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Speaker 5: what were you chewing on? Man? You brought some heat?

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Speaker 2: What did I send you?

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Speaker 5: I mean, come on, you sent me so you sent me.

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Speaker 5: You sent me trash Talk, an e called Plagues from

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Speaker 5: two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: You know what threw me off was we had a

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Speaker 2: were like, man, we should have both talked about Kendrick

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Speaker 2: and that's been in my head. So but yes, earlier

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Speaker 2: in the week, I did send you trash Talk. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was chewing on that because I chew on that

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Speaker 2: EP a lot, because that was I don't think that

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Speaker 2: it wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, they started in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha, Okay. It was one of their earlier EPs, and

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Speaker 2: it's one of the EPs that they put out that

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Speaker 2: go to YouTube to listen to it, and it's probably

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Speaker 2: my favorite release from them. And I just remember it

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Speaker 2: was a very formative and it's a very nostalgic EP

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Speaker 2: for me because like when they were touring that EP,

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Speaker 2: they played Sound and Fury Festival and I was there,

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Speaker 2: Oh great, and I just remember seeing that band for

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Speaker 2: the first time. That was the first band I saw

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Speaker 2: him in person that like hardcore band, punk band or

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Speaker 5: In it, I mean, and that was like a huge

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Speaker 5: thing for me. Yeah, that's got to be massive, like

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Speaker 5: it was.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy. It was crazy big for me to

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Speaker 2: like and at that point, the drummer that.

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Speaker 4: Were you aware of hardcore bands that had black members?

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Speaker 2: At that point, I was only aware of Bad Brains

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Speaker 2: thousand and sevens I was also aware of like kill

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm correcting your behavior.

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Speaker 5: Man, it was a good one.

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Speaker 5: They're greatly becoming large.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we narrowly missed the uh the daydream

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Speaker 5: I'm just being like, this is what I've been chewing on.

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Speaker 2: Well, we should make it happen. What's your what's your

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Speaker 5: Oh man, what was it?

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Speaker 4: I'm bad at like when I'm first listening through stuff,

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Speaker 2: And this album is especially hard to track song names

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Speaker 5: Mark Maybe it was Crown, Yeah, Crown or count me

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Speaker 5: Man, go for it.

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Speaker 4: But dude, it's really like nuanced and dense. Yeah, where

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You want to know something funny. Yeah, I had a

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Speaker 2: I've come around on Jesus. I didn't like it at first.

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Speaker 5: Cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, I really appreciate this album though,

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Speaker 4: I don't know why the difference is between the halves.

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Speaker 2: The first half is much more like I would like.

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Speaker 2: Like it almost feels like a noise rap kind of album,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, yes, you know what I mean? Yes?

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Speaker 2: And I kind of like what he's doing, like if

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Speaker 2: he's kind of just like it's not like a lot

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Speaker 4: This is something that I was thinking about, and maybe

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Speaker 4: it's a controversial thought, and I'm ready to be controversial

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: I wonder sometimes if like the political messaging and the

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Speaker 5: But I wonder, because like there is a commercialism to.

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Speaker 5: It is marketable.

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Speaker 4: And I wonder if these powers it be not like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in some sort of way. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with if this was any other artist, I would

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Speaker 5: There's a consistency.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's even even in his first like in his

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Speaker 2: hate the word, but clout for the lack of a

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Speaker 2: better word. I think he's gained enough clout around himself

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, Yeah, for sure. I Yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: I think you're right, it's it's probably the consistency that

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Speaker 4: moves us away from that possibility. Yeah, anyways, that's what

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Speaker 4: we've been fucking chewing on, you germs. Yes, we'll be

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Speaker 4: right back, sick on sip on your liquid death and uh, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Be right back.

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Speaker 4: All right, Okay, the trains on the tracks, welcome back

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Speaker 4: to never heard of them.

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Speaker 5: We've got some hot guests.

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Speaker 4: Are Pod Daddies, Poddy, the true gate If there's ever

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Speaker 4: a gatekeeper, it's them.

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Speaker 5: Let's welcome to the Pod. It's Has, it's Sean. I'm

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Speaker 5: not going to say your last names. We're close now,

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Speaker 5: we know each other. Yeah, this is Hi.

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Speaker 8: It would insult me to hear my last name from you. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that would be that would be disrespectful.

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Speaker 5: At this point, the fruits of a network just being

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Speaker 5: able to get on this show whenever I want. Kevin

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Speaker 5: calls out, we a really big guest lined up. You

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Speaker 5: kind of just he Has and Sean are actually gonna

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Speaker 5: be guesting on the show this week. Yeah, it was tough.

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Speaker 4: We had to tell Tiffany Hattish to go.

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Speaker 2: We had to tell her she was bumped.

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Speaker 8: If you're getting bumped to be the agent, you ever

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Speaker 8: seen Daddy's Home too?

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Speaker 7: Well, this is kind of like that, Kevin.

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Speaker 5: It's like, what about Charlie Yeat what about her?

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Speaker 4: I was really excited to get to talk to Charlene,

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Speaker 4: but she's.

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Speaker 8: My whole thing is just like, I mean, why have

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Speaker 8: the amount of success we have if you don't get

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Speaker 8: to build your own personal playground with it.

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Speaker 4: I love being in the flagrant sandbox, Yes exactly.

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Speaker 5: It's so different.

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Speaker 8: So I'll jump out and go down the slide with

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Speaker 8: carl talking about basketball. Then I'm over here on the

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Speaker 8: little whirla gig with my friend Hayes doing a pro version,

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Speaker 8: and now I'm in the sandbox. I just.

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Speaker 2: I like the part where you guys leave and like

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Speaker 2: we can come back to life, and like, guys.

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Speaker 5: We're here to talk tunes. We're here.

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Speaker 4: Fine, we're having a laugh, but we're here to talk tunes.

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Speaker 7: Let's get serious about music, please.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no jokes when it comes to tunes, all right,

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Speaker 4: very serious matter. We gotta know a little bit about

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Speaker 4: what you guys like listening to and why are you

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Speaker 4: like listening to it? And don't volunteer, I'll pick, I'll

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Speaker 4: pick it goes first, don't volunteer, Sean, I'd like Hayes

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Speaker 5: Okay, great, Hayes. So Hayes, tell us a little bit

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Speaker 5: about tell us about what tunes you're taking in. Well,

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Speaker 5: let me, I guess I don't have my phone near me,

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00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 5: Because I do, I always have to check to kind

444
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 5: of remind myself what what I what I like to

445
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 5: listen to? All right, oh, here, so we'll go back

446
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 5: to Sean. Okay, great, so show I.

447
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: Just got it out.

448
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 7: I just got it. I just got it all the

449
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 7: way out. Let me check on my phone.

450
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: I just got it. His every his, every time you move.

451
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 2: It looks way more dramatic with longer hair, Like when

452
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 2: you're looking for your phone, You're.

453
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 5: Like, my hair is like three seconds behind me. I'm

454
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 5: sort of not okay to my own life in some ways,

455
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 5: much like I so. I I almost only listen to

456
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 5: music when I am running, okay, which I try to

457
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 5: do most days. Are you talking like pretty exclusively? You

458
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 5: only listen to music when you run, like in the car,

459
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 5: pretty much in the car. Sometimes I will check in

460
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 5: on Hits one. I just like to know what Spider

461
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 5: Harrison is talking about these days on Hits one. Siny

462
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 5: no sistany I think is on kiss? Those are some

463
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 5: of the DJs I lately I have been listening to

464
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 5: the opening of every season of Attack on Titan, which

465
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 5: is an anime that I like cool. Take Me Home

466
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 5: by Phil Collins, Adrenaline Night Shift, Japandroids good, both good, Yeah,

467
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 5: Japanroids Yeah yeah uh Shake It by Metro Station, Let

468
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 5: It Rock by Kevin Rudolph. Those are my fore most

469
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 5: recent This is a hype list. Yeah, this is getting

470
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 5: you out, This is getting those minds. Sean knows this.

471
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 5: I I I always need something to kind of like

472
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 5: get me, get me out of bed, you know what

473
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 5: I mean? Sean. Sean has a much higher tolerance for

474
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 5: atmospheric and more like emotionally complex music than I do.

475
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 8: I'm more I guess I'm more like lyrically invested or

476
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 8: something you.

477
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 4: Like the story of it, or like with the emotions

478
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 4: connected to the words yeah and Hayes you're coming with

479
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 4: a beat, You're looking.

480
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 5: For it and that goes with him. By the way, also, yeah,

481
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 5: I mean I don't want I don't know how to

482
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 5: say this, but for like pornography, he likes a written.

483
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 7: It's text based pornography.

484
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 8: I mean, if I'm you know, yeah, like when I

485
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 8: see an image or like God forbid a moving image

486
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 8: of a sexual act. It means almost nothing to me.

487
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 8: I suppose that could be erotic to someone. But if

488
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 8: I see the word breast on a page, that's well,

489
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 8: I need to excuse myself.

490
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 5: Oh, we've got to take it the full time out.

491
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 8: I have to leave, I go, I I have to

492
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 8: leave the refrigerated section of the deli. Uh huh, I'd

493
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 8: go and go chill out in the car.

494
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: Are are porn stories labeled the same as like porn

495
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 2: video clips when you search them?

496
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 7: Like?

497
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: Are these rudimentary?

498
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 7: I guess I don't know.

499
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 8: It's so funny, like I only have my experience and

500
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 8: you have your If you're looking at video clips, you

501
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 8: could tell me what they're like.

502
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 5: AMT Is there such thing as amateur absolutely fiction?

503
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 4: It's called fan fiction. Absolutely it's and it's probably way nastier.

504
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: They use they use the wrong word. They're there.

505
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's more like grammar mistakes and stuff. It's not

506
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 8: as classy, but somehow it feels more authentic too.

507
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: M what's POV like intica?

508
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 7: It's just it's just first person or maybe second.

509
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 5: I was gonna maybe maybe second you start you start

510
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 5: to yeah, pants, Yeah, amateur po V you touch their

511
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Speaker 5: T g R. E. Bob's.

512
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Speaker 2: It is exciting. If nothing else, it is exciting.

513
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 5: I'm not turned on yet, but I'm willing to give

514
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 5: it a shot. I'm willing to try it.

515
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, it's so much like your show though,

516
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 8: Like it's like everybody has their own stuff they like,

517
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 8: and that's true. Kind of exposing you to something maybe

518
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 8: that's a little bit of a hole in your knowledge.

519
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll have to give it a read and give

520
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 4: you your thumbs up thumbs down if I'm into literotica,

521
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 4: you know, if I can really bust.

522
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: That nut.

523
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 4: Hayes, I do have a serious question. Yeah, somebody who

524
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 4: listens to music when they run makes me feel like

525
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: it has not been a big part of it is

526
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 4: not a big part of your life. Definitely not even

527
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 4: in your adolescence, Like we're talking that sort of high

528
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: school to college age where you really.

529
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 5: I think are buying CDs and stuff like that where

530
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 5: we not. So I'll tell you when it did. I

531
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 5: broke up with my high school girlfriend freshman year of

532
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 5: college after learning that she had I've talked about this

533
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 5: on other platforms with that she had cheated on me

534
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 5: with the music teacher. So there's a little bit of

535
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 5: my relationship with music, is I guess now that I

536
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 5: say it.

537
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 8: Wow, yeah, you're saying that that's when you did music,

538
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 8: But actually right, it probably was in some ways.

539
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 5: Drawing h I would be I would take very long walks,

540
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 5: those cold like hands in my pockets, walks where I

541
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 5: would like, you know, picture myself being watched, like thinking

542
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 5: I was like looking cool walking around on my big walks.

543
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 5: And I would listen to Uh the Streets, Grando Come

544
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 5: for Free. That was a big one for me, like

545
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: the Wrap Group, the Streets. It's just a guy, one

546
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 5: guy hired, I'm out sorry.

547
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 7: It's Mike Skinner.

548
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 5: Yeah. I preferred original pirate material myself. And that was

549
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 5: also when Funeral the Arcade Fire album four Yeah, Big Year,

550
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 5: so good and just the operatic like wake Up. I

551
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 5: would listen to that and be like, yes, this is

552
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 5: like it's it was, Yes, this is.

553
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 7: The Way the Wild Things Are trailer.

554
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: Was that song on?

555
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 8: There was that on that it was the trailer, and

556
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 8: I'd say it's the most the largest gap between trailer

557
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 8: and movie that exists, like it's the most perfect song

558
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 8: for this trailer that looked incredible and like the images

559
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 8: were the book and it felt like your child, and

560
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 8: I was just like, holy fucking you're like they did it.

561
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 8: They my favorite thing, Like I don't care if it's

562
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 8: who it's four like this is. And then I went

563
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 8: and I was like, what kind of bored.

564
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: Was the Was the song in the movie too or

565
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: just a trailer?

566
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 7: I think it's just in the trailer.

567
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 8: I don't think they got it in the movie, which,

568
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 8: by the way, if they had just had like an

569
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 8: important montage in the film set to that song, it

570
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 8: probably would have bumped a full letter grade for me.

571
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 5: Man, it's a powerful album.

572
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: It's a powerful track.

573
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, hell yeah stuff. I do like looking down a

574
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 5: little deeper. I do like I like sixties, like you know,

575
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 5: like walk Away Renee by the Left Bank is a

576
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 5: song I really like. There's a bank called the Association

577
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 5: that has a couple songs I like a lot. It's

578
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 5: like sort of like bubblegum pop, like green pop, but

579
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 5: like it's like the Zombies. The Zombies is I think

580
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 5: like the most kind of classic example, and.

581
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: Those are kind of coming out of the sixties kind

582
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: of garage rock kind of vibe. Right, Yeah, yeah, I've

583
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: I've heard of the Left Bank. I had to look

584
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 4: them up to be reminded, but yes, I've seen these

585
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: these bob headed boys before.

586
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: The Association.

587
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

588
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 5: Never my love is I think their biggest song but Windy,

589
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 5: which I first heard in a Breaking Bad Cold open

590
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 5: but I really, really, really really liked it.

591
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm listening to a little bit of Association right now

592
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: and it sounds like cold open music.

593
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, that Wendy plays when there is a sex

594
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 5: worker in the show named Wendy and Breaking Bad and

595
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 5: it's her turning her tricks, but that song plays, and

596
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 5: I was like, the song fucking kicks ass. But yeah,

597
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 5: that's I mean, that's it. That basically that's the show

598
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 5: for me.

599
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 7: That thanks for coming on here.

600
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're not going to get much more out

601
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: of me from there. Well, hey, that's enough.

602
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 5: That's enough to work with. You're enough and you're beautiful.

603
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: They belong.

604
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

605
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: Is there anything like when has music made you cry?

606
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 4: This is and maybe it's never has, but it sounds

607
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: like you have. You have a a non emotional relationship

608
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: with music?

609
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 5: Has it ever gotten you?

610
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 4: There?

611
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 5: The one I don't know if it's ever made me cry,

612
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: but the one that like a story song. This is

613
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 5: more along the lines of the kind of stuff that

614
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 5: Sean has a more sophisticated palette for. I really liked

615
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 5: the Soufion the the ILLINOOII album of course around that

616
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 5: same time, like yeah, yeah, and Casimir Pulaski Day is

617
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 5: a very sad song that I love. I still love it.

618
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's made me cry, but it's

619
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: like probably gotten me close.

620
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 7: John Wayne Gacy song on that album will kind of.

621
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 6: Get people with it again and his gaff holding John

622
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 6: Wayne's t shirts. Oh my god, I want one of them.

623
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 5: That shit's fucked up, dude.

624
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 4: And when I that's how I found out that that

625
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 4: guy was a guy.

626
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 5: Unfortunately he was like a.

627
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 7: Lot of people. It's like, what are what are eight

628
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 7: things about Illinois?

629
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: Well?

630
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 5: John went Gayzy.

631
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 7: Skipped some stuff.

632
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 8: He got to Gaycy before Michael Jordan. Yeah, yeah, just cat.

633
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 8: It's a little bit more of a window into you

634
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 8: than the state itself.

635
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 5: So cool, suit very.

636
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: Well, Sean, you're up. You're in the hot seat, all right,

637
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: tell us about what you what what tunes you get into?

638
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: Do you turn so well?

639
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 8: Because I you know, Hayes went first so I've got

640
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 8: a little bit of a chronological thing I could do here,

641
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 8: which is that's great. So my my parents were sort

642
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 8: of they had like a big record collection and were

643
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 8: kind of hippies at some point, so tons of My

644
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 8: mom was like a Beatles obsessive and that was playing

645
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 8: in the house all the time. And I was a

646
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 8: youth when the Irina like the anthologies were coming out

647
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 8: and the like huge like network documentary series about them

648
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 8: was on, so that was like a big impactful thing.

649
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 7: And then my dad was hard into like Steely Dan,

650
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 7: so that was on a lot too.

651
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 8: There's like a couple, like a couple staples that were

652
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 8: just always in rotation that I kind of grew uping

653
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 8: into some of that, like sixties seventies music.

654
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 4: And then.

655
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 8: When I was in high school, I got really deep

656
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 8: into the jam band scene, partially because I was so

657
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 8: into drugs and it was a problem and that was

658
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 8: like you could go there and find any So I

659
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 8: would go to these music festival.

660
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 7: I would go to Burkfest and redoing Whippets.

661
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: Sure yeah cool, I'm in yeah yeah, and for just

662
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: jam bands so that we can talk just quickly, we're

663
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: talking like fish.

664
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 7: And I actually what what what you'd be aby surprise.

665
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 8: I never saw Fish live because I saw so many

666
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 8: local New England bands and so I saw like, so I'll.

667
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 7: Rattle off a couple.

668
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 8: There was MoU Deep Into a Blackout, Strange Folk Jiggle,

669
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 8: the Handle, Percy Hill, the Gray Boy All Stars. Uh,

670
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 8: you're more of a like a sort of low drinkies incident,

671
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 8: I guess is a big one. But it was, and

672
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 8: they all there, they all like cross pollinated and played

673
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 8: with each other. Percy Hill is not a big band.

674
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 8: That was the one I saw the most. I really

675
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 8: loved them, weirdly, like probably because I wasn't that into

676
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 8: jam bids that they were the most like studio focused

677
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 8: of them. They had like you instruction. I was into it,

678
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 8: and I liked going to the shows and just hanging

679
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 8: out and and kind of feeling it. And a Disco

680
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 8: Biscuits was like a big band that I got really into.

681
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 8: And they had their own festival called Camp Bisco that

682
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 8: I would go to. So that I'm not sure if

683
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 8: this is real's totally.

684
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 5: Real, this is real. It's totally probably the fifth time

685
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 5: I have heard Sean mostly he mostly does it as

686
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 5: a joke. But reciting those band names.

687
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 7: Then I rattle up the names because they are all

688
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 7: sort of funny.

689
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: Yes, there's a small moment of doubt in my head

690
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 4: of like, maybe this.

691
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 5: Is all fake, this is all no.

692
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 8: That was like and my you know, uh my like

693
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 8: best friend in high school and I like listened to

694
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 8: a bunch of that music and went to those shows

695
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 8: and we would like camp out for the weekend and

696
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 8: uh so that was a little bit of my scene

697
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 8: there and then, because it was the nineties, I also

698
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 8: listened to and Our in our town one oh four

699
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 8: point one was the alternative radio station, and it was

700
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 8: all the usual suspect. I mean, that Third Eye Blind

701
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 8: album was fucking enormous. I remember going to buy the

702
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 8: how Is It Gonna Be single at the mall with

703
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 8: my friend and being a quarter short and stealing it

704
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 8: from the wishing well cool.

705
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, dude, that's beautiful. That's a lyric.

706
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 7: That's a third, isn't it though?

707
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 8: And we went and we listened that away home and

708
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 8: it had been we obviously knew the band and the

709
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 8: music was on the radio, but it was being used

710
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 8: heavily in a Dawson's Creek promo at the time, and

711
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 8: so it was like I had heard the hook of

712
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 8: it so many times in this like ten second promo

713
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 8: that it was like I need to own this. And

714
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 8: so like, yeah, Third Eye Blind, you know all those

715
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 8: other bands like that, Counting Crows, you know who I

716
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 8: still really like.

717
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 7: So there's all that stuff that I'm nostalgic for.

718
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: Some of it.

719
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 7: I didn't like the time Dave Matthew's band was the

720
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 7: biggest thing in the world.

721
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 8: And I was like, I'm not into this. I listened

722
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 8: more to like jam bands and rap music, and then yeah,

723
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 8: there is seems to be a big line when it

724
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 8: comes to Dave Matthews.

725
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 4: You're either in or you're out. But now I don't

726
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 4: understand it.

727
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 8: I I love it because it every person's car I

728
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 8: got into to like go to a party it was playing,

729
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 8: and so it is somehow against my will became my

730
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 8: teenage years, and so now it is like linked to

731
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 8: most of my like positive high school memories.

732
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 7: So I do like it now.

733
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 8: So yeah, there's that. And then uh, when I got

734
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 8: sober and like out of the drug scene again, I

735
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 8: had a time of getting incredibly committed to music and

736
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 8: I was with like all these like kind of like

737
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 8: young people in Sobriety, like around like New Haven. And

738
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 8: there was a guy that I met named and we

739
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 8: we called him indie rock Brian, and he was like

740
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 8: up on all the indie rock and I would just

741
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 8: give him my iPod and I would I would say,

742
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 8: fill this for me, yes, just like give me all

743
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 8: the new shit. I'd be like, keep like these three

744
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 8: things on there. I know I want that, and everything

745
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 8: else else is yours all like two hundred megabytes or whatever.

746
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 8: And then he would just fill it up with albums

747
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 8: and then I would listen to it for six months

748
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 8: and then I would give it to him again. And

749
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 8: so that's when I got into all the Saddle Creek stuff,

750
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 8: you know, rylo' Kylie and death Gab and all that shit.

751
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 8: And then the National which became like huge for me.

752
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 8: I've seen them a bunch of times. And the biggest

753
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 8: one I remember riding around in a car with my

754
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 8: friend Greg and he had a mix on and I

755
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 8: heard my first Mountain Goat song, which is like a

756
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 8: super low fi it was off all Hill West, Texas,

757
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 8: and then I like, I played that album just like

758
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 8: start to finish for months. It was one of like

759
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 8: every song on the album became my favorite song on

760
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 8: it at some point because I just like lived in it.

761
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 8: And that's sort of like so much of the huge

762
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 8: like lyrical influence, and I I don't even know if

763
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 8: it's true. I think I read at some point that

764
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 8: like the characters in his songs, like he writes short

765
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 8: stories about that, Like it felt like there was weight underneath, Yeah,

766
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 8: the lyrics, these stories.

767
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 7: He was telling about these people.

768
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 8: He would do like kind of concept albums about where

769
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 8: it was all about one couple or it was all

770
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 8: about uh, some certain period in his life. And it

771
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 8: was just something for me that in my early sobriety

772
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 8: was very, very impactful. So that Silver Jews too was

773
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 8: the same. Same time.

774
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: I love when you find that like special album that

775
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: you're like, if this were like that, I could wear

776
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 4: a CD out like kind of listening. You know, that's

777
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: a really special spot and that sticks with you and

778
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: you're gonna like you're gonna listen to that album until

779
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 4: you fucking die.

780
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 5: You know, Sean would always take you there would be great.

781
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Sean, what do you think it was about

782
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: the Mountain Goats specifically that like really grabbed you more

783
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: than like the other stuff that was put on the iPod.

784
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 8: You know, there's part of it is like it did

785
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 8: sound so shitty, like it was just like him playing

786
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 8: guitar and recording into like a boombox, and it was

787
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 8: just it felt very intimate and like urgent and the

788
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 8: just I think something about the recording of it too,

789
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 8: like I don't know, there was something that felt authentic

790
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 8: about it to me. And and some of the stuff

791
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 8: he was there was a sense of humor to it,

792
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 8: and there was a very like kind of literate aspect there,

793
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 8: and you know, it's very very much cornier. But like

794
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 8: one of the first bands I found for myself was

795
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 8: like they might be Giants, which was from like Tiny

796
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 8: Tunes or whatever. But those were some of the first

797
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 8: like that was probably the first tape I ever bought

798
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 8: with my own money was Flood. And there's something about

799
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 8: their sound too, like that. You know, he had a

800
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 8: very nasal voice, John Darneil does and so did John

801
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 8: Linnell from there, and I think I got used to

802
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 8: that kind of sound. I just liked that kind of

803
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 8: like nasal, whiny, I'm talking to you, Sam, smart stuff

804
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 8: kind of sound.

805
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 7: And and then yeah, Silver Juice and Pavement and those

806
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 7: those guys were at.

807
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 8: The same time I got really deep into ye and

808
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 8: uh so yeah so that so what I listened to

809
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 8: now is really a lot of that same that like

810
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 8: early two thousands indie stuff is what I love and

811
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 8: go back to, and there's a bunch of stuff from

812
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 8: that period, and it's it's rare that I find like

813
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 8: a new thing I'm really into, even if I find

814
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 8: a new band that I get, Like, I got into

815
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 8: Super Chunk pretty late with like like three albums ago

816
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 8: and I love them nows them a lot, but they're

817
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 8: a nineties band that I just didn't find who's still

818
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 8: making good music.

819
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: I think that sort of fit into the stuff that

820
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 4: you already liked.

821
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I don't.

822
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 8: I don't find a lot of I had a period

823
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 8: a little while back where I got into like car

824
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 8: seat Headrest and level Up and some of that like

825
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 8: kind of yeah, like twenty.

826
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 5: Stuff that I like.

827
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 7: But anyway, that's but I don't. I don't listen to

828
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 7: as much music as I used to.

829
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 8: I think I got so into audio books and podcasts

830
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 8: when I'm in the car.

831
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 5: I do think they are extremely competing medium.

832
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: They are there.

833
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: It's it's hard to listen to every podcast and also

834
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: do music or vice versa.

835
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 8: I get really invested in books too, and I'll find

836
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 8: like a narrator I love, and then I'll just be like, well,

837
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 8: I I every time I have extra listening time, I'll

838
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 8: be like, well, I really want to finish this book,

839
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 8: and it wins out over songs Jordan. But to bring

840
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 8: it all full circle, I went to the Paul McCartney

841
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 8: concert on Friday.

842
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 5: Fuck yeah, how was that?

843
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 4: Paul?

844
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 5: Was he shaken? Paul McCartney got he got Well, he's

845
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 5: not little, it's the show's called Paul McCartney got back

846
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 5: homage to his famously huge ass.

847
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the boys got back.

848
00:42:59,480 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 5: It was great.

849
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good show.

850
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 5: Where was it so fine? Sophie?

851
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: Sophie, Man, I wonder what did did it sound good

852
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 2: in there?

853
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 8: Like?

854
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: Did the the audio and stuff sound good?

855
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: It did?

856
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 8: I mean, it's like, uh, it didn't sound incredible because

857
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 8: it's a pretty like Cabarety based.

858
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 7: Be honest, now, it was a.

859
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 5: Don't hold back.

860
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 8: It was like an incredible kind of impactful experience for me.

861
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 7: I truly loved the the I loved the set list.

862
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 8: And hearing him, he he sounded better than you would

863
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 8: think he would at seventy nine years old, and also

864
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 8: sounded bad in spots in a way that was also

865
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 8: reassuring where it's like I'm seeing the real guy. He's

866
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 8: really can't get there on Blackbird anymore, you know, And

867
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 8: so that it made it again, uh feel good.

868
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 7: And so I did love, love the show.

869
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 8: But yeah, there's there were spots where like the full

870
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 8: band playing stuff got drowned out a little bit, but

871
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 8: also like he doesn't his vocals are getting drowned out,

872
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 8: but he doesn't sound amazing. You're there for the song

873
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 8: the Beatle is doing the Beatles in front of you.

874
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is not a novel thought. But I was

875
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 4: listening to the Beatles today. I've talked about on the

876
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 4: pod before. But I go to this library that has LPs,

877
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 4: and you can pull a bunch of LPs from the library,

878
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: and one of them that I got was the Beatles

879
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 4: Volume rock and Roll Volume two, and uh just had

880
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: it playing in the background, and I was like, I

881
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: know every single one of these songs, but I've never

882
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 4: listened to this album before. Yeah, and then I started

883
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 4: putting on other Beatles, and I was like, this is

884
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 4: not a band that I have ever actively listened to

885
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: that I can remember maybe a little bit in middle

886
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: school when you get like you said, the anthologies.

887
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 5: But I know, I think I know every song. I

888
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 5: feel confident that, like I know almost every song. It's

889
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 5: crazy that, yeah, some of you see and.

890
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 7: Go like I, I, oh, I guess I know ever

891
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 7: heard that one?

892
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 8: And then you're like, no, I have heard this, And

893
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 8: because I was exposed via the anthologies, I don't know

894
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 8: the timeline really of the album. So I'll be like

895
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 8: I'll be like, well, old Brown Shoe, that's a great

896
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 8: Beatles song, and then it's like that was never on

897
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 8: an album. That was a fucking B side they decided

898
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 8: not to release. But you know, then later in time

899
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 8: it goes like, oh, this is when George Harrison was

900
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 8: really like finding his feet as a songwriter.

901
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 7: So it's it's kind of cool.

902
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 8: I I want to answer one more question that you

903
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 8: asked Hayes, which is a song that has made me cry?

904
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 5: Please please?

905
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: Now?

906
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 7: My wife is very into country, like modern pop country,

907
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 7: and she.

908
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 8: Listens to Luke Comb's sometimes, and he had a song

909
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 8: called even though I'm leaving, which is a It starts out,

910
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 8: do you know this song?

911
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 7: It starts out, yeah, Luke Comb's he's good. He's a

912
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 7: good songwriter.

913
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 8: He writes a lot of like storytelling ones, and there's

914
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 8: a lot of like you know, Beard Ever Broke My

915
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 8: Heart as like his biggest single. It's a lot of

916
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 8: what you think of as the kind of corporate country

917
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 8: like billionaire singing, good old boy specifics.

918
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 2: But yeah.

919
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 8: The first verse is a dad singing to his son

920
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 8: as he puts him to bed, like, you know, even

921
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 8: though I'm leaving, like you're going to bed, I'm leaving,

922
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 8: but like I'm always here with you, like you don't

923
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 8: need to be scared. And then the second verse is

924
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 8: the son going off to join the military and he's

925
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 8: singing it to his father like even though I'm leaving,

926
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 8: I'm still here with you. And then the third verse

927
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 8: is the father on his deathbed saying like even though

928
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 8: I'm passing on, I'm always going to be here, damn.

929
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 7: And it really works on me and it did make

930
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 7: me cry.

931
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 4: Always my baby and my baby, You'll be kind of

932
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: vibes the giving that that book, that book that most Yeah,

933
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 4: that sounds powerful.

934
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 5: It sounds like you can get your Jessy's coming to

935
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 5: SOFI pretty soon. I don't know really, if you saw

936
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 5: that Sean and I.

937
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 7: Go, Dan will be joining and Shaye will be there

938
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 7: as well. Shay's bringing Dan or the other way around.

939
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 7: It's Dan, I think is who's driving? Dan's main? Yeah,

940
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 7: who's driving?

941
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 5: Take a show.

942
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 7: But if Dan's driving, maybe Shae is higher status.

943
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: I don't gotta drive, you drive me well back seat.

944
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 8: I would go just to hear the song Tequila by

945
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 8: Dan and Shaye, and then I would leave.

946
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: You're not gonna stay for ten thousand hours.

947
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 8: I we wrestled even with going to Paul McCarney. I

948
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 8: was like, I have to I've never seen him as

949
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 8: a bust experience, but I didn't.

950
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 5: Shot was gently seen off some other elder states better.

951
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 8: I guess just one five percent of the audience was

952
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 8: wearing masks at so FI, just so you know we

953
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 8: were among them, but no one.

954
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I'm catching COVID here and I

955
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 5: would not be going back. But I feel like your

956
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 5: decision making, Sean gave. We got to give Tom Pett

957
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 5: a little kiss on the forehead on.

958
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 8: I did that, so I went to see Tom Petty,

959
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 8: uh right right before he died, and I had never

960
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 8: seen him.

961
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 7: It was an incredible concert and then.

962
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 8: And part of me seeing him was like, I I've

963
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 8: talked about this before, but I meant to see Prince

964
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 8: when he was like doing that like residency at the

965
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 8: Format and I didn't go, and everyone was like, most

966
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 8: amazing concert I've ever been to. You have to be there,

967
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 8: and I was like, he'll do it again. And then

968
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 8: he died pretty you know, shockingly.

969
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: I was one of those people who was like, I'll

970
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: see him the next time he does it. Yeah, I

971
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: saw on the Musicology tour. Let me tell you, if

972
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: you missed the Musicology tour, there's nothing the Forum Gates

973
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: could have done to catch up Unmatched.

974
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, no that and I've heard that as well,

975
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 8: but I wanted the generic label version of that at

976
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 8: least so anyway, then when that happened, I was like,

977
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 8: I guess I really do have to see these people

978
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 8: like when you can. And then I went to see

979
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 8: Tom Petty next like with that in mind, and then

980
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 8: he died wow, and then I was like, oh wow,

981
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 8: I was right. And then I went to see like

982
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 8: Elton John Billy Joel, like a bunch of just like

983
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 8: classic people I grew up with, and they were mostly

984
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 8: good shows, but I felt like I had just missed

985
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 8: my window. With Paul McCartney, I was like, there's no way.

986
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 8: In twenty fifteen he played Dodger Stadium, Ringo came out

987
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 8: with him. I wasn't there, and I was like, fuck man,

988
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 8: I blew it.

989
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 7: And then he did this and.

990
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 5: Watched that.

991
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 8: Having watched that documentary right before, it was even more

992
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 8: uh impactful for me.

993
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 5: You're charged?

994
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh, I was fired up. I read a book

995
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 7: about him.

996
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 5: Hey, Sean, you never know when they're gonna go, don't forget.

997
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 7: You never know. But if they do, never even though

998
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 7: they're leaving.

999
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, that don't mean that they won't be right by

1000
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 8: your side when you're scared and you need them in

1001
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 8: the middle of the night.

1002
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 5: The one of those I went to, and I do

1003
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 5: think this was like a sort of a part of

1004
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 5: New England history was uh, and this is a guy

1005
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 5: that I've always really liked, but I haven't caught up

1006
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 5: with him recently, but uh, Springsteen at Fenway. This was

1007
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 5: the first Fenway. Now they do him all the time. Yeah,

1008
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 5: Cork he's coming there later this Yeah, but that was

1009
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 5: the first one, and I think it was like three

1010
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 5: shows or something like that. This is around the time

1011
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 5: of like I guess it was post the Rising, but

1012
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: enough where that was like still kind of his most

1013
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 5: recent like huge hit album. Right, Yeah, that was sick.

1014
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it on the pod.

1015
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 4: I'm not a big Bruce guy, and I know that's

1016
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 4: really polarizing and that's gonna probably, you know, gonna lose

1017
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 4: several followers for this one.

1018
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 7: But the boss not much of a working man. Yeah,

1019
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 7: that doesn't resonate with you.

1020
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm all about Daddy's money.

1021
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I never saw him, but I also never did

1022
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 8: a deep dive. But I always felt like it was

1023
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 8: a failing of me. Like when I listen, I'm like,

1024
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 8: I like born to Run.

1025
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 5: With Pea, Born to Run rocks. Yeah.

1026
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, And then I bought the vinyl of Darkness on

1027
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 8: the Edge of Town and grew to like basically every

1028
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 8: song there, but.

1029
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 7: The whole rest of his catalog I barely know.

1030
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 5: It's a huge.

1031
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 7: It's so daunting.

1032
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's certain artists where you're like, it's too big,

1033
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: too big for me to even dive into which is

1034
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 4: a perfect transition to a genre that's almost too big.

1035
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 5: For the both of you guys.

1036
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 7: It's true, is it?

1037
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: Is it?

1038
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 5: Really?

1039
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 4: It's a pretty I would say it's a pretty big

1040
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 4: genre these days, especially these days, because I think of

1041
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 4: it as being huge twenty years ago.

1042
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and tailing off. Yeah yeah.

1043
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of bands now that are

1044
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: doing like shoegaze kind of revival type stuff and like

1045
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: offshore brands of shoegaze kind of stuff. Like there's so

1046
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: many bands playing like like what you might consider to

1047
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: be shoegazer dream pop, but like also fits under the

1048
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: category of life of hill rock, yeah rock, post punk,

1049
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: Like they're all kind of melding and becoming the same thing.

1050
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 8: Dream pops related. So because like I think of like

1051
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 8: beach houses dream pop, right, sure, yeah, sure, that's not shoegaze. Yeah,

1052
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 8: let's narrow it down. Yeah, okay, And I want to

1053
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 8: talk about why I brought this up.

1054
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's take a let's take a one big step

1055
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 4: back and first just say, without a shadow of a doubt,

1056
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 4: the genre that you guys say that you fuck with

1057
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 4: the least.

1058
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: Is shoe shoegaze.

1059
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 5: But I've been I mean it's one that I know

1060
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 5: enough to like to be adjacent to it and to

1061
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 5: know that I I just never fully got it. This

1062
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 5: was another freshman year of college. My roommate, a cross

1063
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 5: country runner from Palo Alto. Would I remember all the bands?

1064
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 5: My Bloody Valentine of course, the Seminole h Gays band,

1065
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 5: Serena Mediche, which was like a Swedish or like some

1066
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 5: kind of Scandinavian band around that time. There's one called

1067
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 5: Minus the Bear. They play a lot, and all of

1068
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 5: these I heard them. I never stopped here. He would

1069
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 5: just play them all the time, and it was fine.

1070
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 5: It was like ambient, like background music, but like none

1071
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 5: of them just like sunk in for me at all.

1072
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 5: And I can't really tell you even what it is.

1073
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 4: Uh, it's it isn't it's it's it's hard to exactly

1074
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: ping what this sound is. Okay, Well we can talk

1075
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: a little bit about we can talk Yeah, we can

1076
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 4: talk a little bit about.

1077
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

1078
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: I think it's easier to start with like the precursors

1079
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: to exactly describe like what it is, because a lot

1080
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 4: of shoegaze to me sounds like I would quote it

1081
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 4: as like a wall of sound it is. It's about sonic.

1082
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 2: Capabilities as opposed to like, well, I think shoegaze the

1083
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: term is like a is like a pejorative term, Like

1084
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: it's not like I think it is a little bit

1085
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: out of negative connotation.

1086
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like it's like navel gazing.

1087
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like you you know, they're fucking staring at

1088
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 8: their shoes just like noodling around and I'm more good.

1089
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: That part of what makes shoe gaze, Like I think

1090
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: what separates you gays from genres like dream poppers or

1091
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: like even like just alternative rock is that it's they're

1092
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: not they don't care if you're enjoying yourself, Like that's

1093
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: not what the point of the music is. That's why,

1094
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: like the vocals typically are tucked like in the mix,

1095
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: very low. It's almost like you can't even hear what

1096
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 2: they're singing about.

1097
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 7: Well, it's like another instrument where it's like another sound

1098
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 7: for them to make.

1099
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, I think.

1100
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 4: That's like very big part of the genre is that

1101
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 4: the vocals is considered an instrument as opposed to like, uh,

1102
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 4: the main attraction or whatever.

1103
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, because I think of it as like you have

1104
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 8: to be incredibly patient with it because I think every

1105
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 8: like a couple of years, I would go, I gotta

1106
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 8: get into my bloody Valentine.

1107
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 7: Like this is like such an important album to so many.

1108
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 8: Artists that I respect, I gotta fucking get into this,

1109
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 8: and I would just be like, I don't have the page,

1110
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 8: like I'm getting frustrated with it. And I do like

1111
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 8: a lot of dream poppy stuff that I'm realizing is

1112
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 8: similar like Beach House obviously, the way I don't know

1113
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 8: what they're saying in a lot of those songs, the

1114
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 8: way that that she uses her voice, and I'm just like, okay,

1115
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 8: but it somehow it works for me more, I guess, because.

1116
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 7: It's just all like really pretty.

1117
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 5: I like Beach House. It feels more melodic to me

1118
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 5: for sure.

1119
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 8: But I would say I know the like big song,

1120
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 8: like the single, but I can't pick out a lot

1121
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 8: of their songs from one another. I feel the same

1122
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 8: way about Grizzly Bear, where there's like a couple songs.

1123
00:55:53,440 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 5: I love, but everything falls it's all a mess. Wax candle, Yeah, yeah,

1124
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 5: just a candle. I mean I just call that a candle,

1125
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 5: don't really, that's just a streing up candle. I'm trying.

1126
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 5: I think you have.

1127
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 7: It's not wax.

1128
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 4: That's cool, that's cool. It's a soy candle. Hm, it's

1129
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 4: like a soy candle, babe.

1130
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 5: Uh.

1131
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: I feel like the like the reason I think we

1132
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 4: liked the dream pop and stuff more is it came first,

1133
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 4: it existed first, you know. Shoegaze is one of those

1134
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 4: things as far as I understand it, It's definitely a

1135
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 4: British based thing. It's coming out of britpop, which is

1136
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 4: an extension of like put like Britpop was after kind

1137
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 4: of new waves, so we're beyond post punk. We're beyond

1138
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 4: new wave. We're doing britpop. It's like indie alternative and Blur.

1139
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 4: Blur is a great example of like it's a bridge

1140
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 4: between the two, right, Yes, that would be a perfect

1141
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 4: bridge pre song Tube like everything.

1142
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 5: Blur did before woo yeah yeah, like that dream pop and.

1143
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 4: Stuff and a lot of other precursors like uh, I'm

1144
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 4: gonna print mispronounce this, but like the cocktail the Cocta

1145
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 4: another big precursor, and that's very beach housey, like you

1146
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 4: hear beach House there and I have a hard time

1147
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 4: kind of like I think it's what a song was

1148
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 4: talking about. It's like the genre evolved through musicians who

1149
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: are more interested in playing with their friends for themselves

1150
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 4: than being a commercial success, and then somehow it became successful,

1151
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 4: like the.

1152
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 5: Early days of like punk and stuff, but not like hard, yeah,

1153
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 5: very soft, like a very soft version of that.

1154
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 4: It's that same intention of like we just want to

1155
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 4: like get together and play our our instruments.

1156
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: Like these people really cool. Oh that's cool, that's fine.

1157
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 7: Similar to the jam band things that I like.

1158
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 8: It does remind me kind of of jam bands, which

1159
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 8: I do, but it's not as goofy, right, and you know,

1160
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 8: I obviously sort of grew out of even liking those,

1161
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 8: but have.

1162
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: Now I'll ask you this, Jacob Uh, Do you feel

1163
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: like shoegaz is maybe a genre of music that like

1164
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: part of the barrier of enjoying it is seeing it live?

1165
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 5: Yes, because a lot of it is like.

1166
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 4: My Bloody Valentine is big because of how loud they are.

1167
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 5: In my opinion, I think that's interesting to minus the

1168
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 5: Bear show. My roommate brought me yes at Sean What's

1169
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 5: that place that we almost performed but then we didn't

1170
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 5: because it had been canceled. The Middle East the Middle

1171
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 5: East in Cambridge and it was it was for me

1172
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 5: so loud. Every picture of me at chuck e cheez.

1173
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 5: When I'm a little kid, I have both fingers in

1174
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 5: my ears. Yeah, like it it. It did not even

1175
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 5: hit like you go to those shows with ear protection. Yeah, okay,

1176
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 5: like like.

1177
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 4: It's part of it and I don't. I'm not against that,

1178
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: I get it, but it kind of goes back to

1179
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 4: this thing of like it's for musicians, right, It's like, yeah,

1180
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,479
Speaker 4: I don't think you, and like a person who doesn't

1181
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: play guitar will be impressed that somebody has a rig

1182
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 4: that can pump one hundred and fifteen decibels versus ninety five.

1183
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 4: But this is the shit that my blood that these

1184
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 4: fucking My Bloody Valentine fans care about. And they like,

1185
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: I got too deep in the reddit and.

1186
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 5: They're like, I've noticed that towards the back half.

1187
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 4: Of their shows they're no longer pushing one forty decibels

1188
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I can't imagine.

1189
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 5: That's loud and shattering.

1190
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, to get even nerdier, what made My Bloody Valentine

1191
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: so cool for nerds is that they would do stuff

1192
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: to like like not just being loud, but they would

1193
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 2: do stuff. They would tune their guitars in way is

1194
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: that like more of the they could play more of

1195
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 2: the strings open so that no, like chords would resonate

1196
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: like more just so they would like tune the bottom

1197
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: three notes like to the same note so that when

1198
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: they would hit an open chord, it would just be

1199
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: this wall of sound. And I think that's that's part

1200
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 2: of why, like you have to see it live because

1201
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: it like playing a guitar super loud. Is also it

1202
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 2: also feels different rather than like just hearing it, because

1203
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: it's like hitting you in the chest and it's like

1204
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: vibrating and ship.

1205
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 4: It's like it's like no home set up, no even

1206
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: car system is ever going to replicate like what a

1207
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 4: Marshall stack could do physically to you.

1208
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 5: And these boys are put eleven and and the lead

1209
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 5: singer or the whatever the front man of My Bloody

1210
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 5: Valentine is like ruined, right is like I thought, like

1211
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 5: I heard so like he has like his hearing, yes,

1212
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 5: but I wouldn't doubt it. Yeah, I don't doubt that

1213
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 5: it would be what he for sure he got it

1214
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 5: mixed while mixing loveless awful that's why he has yeah,

1215
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 5: mile too extreme, like this, that's bad. My dad has

1216
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 5: that it's bad. It's not good.

1217
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But I do think I think it's on.

1218
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 4: I think it's on nailed it where it's like it's

1219
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 4: a an in person sort of genre and unless you're

1220
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 4: a big music nerd with like an impressive sound system,

1221
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 4: I don't even know if like Loveless is gonna sound

1222
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 4: good Like on my system. It was really pushing it

1223
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't want to ruin my speakers,

1224
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna.

1225
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 5: Not really do this, you know.

1226
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 4: But then we kind of get like we were talking

1227
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 4: about if it like there's there has been other waves.

1228
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 4: We had this like nineties wave, and then we had

1229
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 4: like a weird wave, and like the twenty eleven, twelve

1230
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 4: maybe to fourteen there was like a second wave. And

1231
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 4: now I think we're on like a third wave. But

1232
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 4: it's because like punk and metal me's so big right

1233
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 4: now that you're moving into this like it's called fo

1234
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 4: Gazze where it's like more metal inspired, more punk inspired,

1235
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 4: but it's still about the wall of sound. I think

1236
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 4: they're trying to like anybody can find a new little

1237
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 4: corner and be like, we're gonna make it our own,

1238
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 4: and I think they're trying to bring it back.

1239
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 5: Was the twenty eleven twenty twelve? Is that like M

1240
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 5: eighty three? Yes, yes, okay, I.

1241
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 4: Think they would be considered shoegaze. I'm trying to think

1242
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 4: of like another sort of second let me see, or

1243
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 4: a post movement like band. I'm gonna have to just

1244
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 4: look at the the Wikipedia. To be honest, I don't know.

1245
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 2: M eighty three is like for sure what I would say,

1246
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: but there, I mean there's bands that kind of like

1247
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call them necessarily a shoegaze band, but they

1248
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: were taking elements of shoegaze, like I would say. Explosions

1249
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: in the Sky is a band like that that was

1250
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: doing kind of shoegazy type stuff, you know what I mean?

1251
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 4: I see that, Well, why don't we Why don't we

1252
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 4: listen to one and see what we think we've curated.

1253
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 5: We've curated and picked.

1254
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 4: A tune in the shoe gay genre that we think

1255
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 4: you guys might dig and if you don't, you're gonna.

1256
01:03:10,240 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 5: Tell us that's interesting. It's very British, I.

1257
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 4: Believe, yes, so that but that was a song called

1258
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 4: over by Sore Eyelids out of Belgium twenty twelve, Belgium,

1259
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 4: and that set sort of that that second that second

1260
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 4: life of Shoegaze.

1261
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 7: I liked it.

1262
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 8: There was something about the guitar tone at first that

1263
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 8: I was like, gosh, this sounds really familiar.

1264
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 7: I want to say. It felt like like.

1265
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 8: Early modest Mouse to me. Okay, interesting that like little

1266
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 8: whatever they were doing.

1267
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 7: That little like that just kept coming off of it. Yeah.

1268
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: I was like, like twiny.

1269
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 7: Dramamine like era like.

1270
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 8: And then when it got into the song, when it

1271
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 8: got the drums came in, I went, Okay, this is

1272
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 8: really cool.

1273
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 5: That's what I thought.

1274
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 2: It was like this rocks.

1275
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 8: And then the next part I was like, and this

1276
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 8: is cool. And then when they got into what I

1277
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 8: assume is sort of the chorus, I went, okay, little mess,

1278
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 8: little muddy for me, little mess.

1279
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 5: But okay sticks. This is like, this is my problem

1280
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 5: with all of it. I need something cheaper than this.

1281
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 5: I need something that like is more cloying and that

1282
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 5: I can you mentioned explosions in the sky where like

1283
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 5: obviously that first part is very reminiscent of that.

1284
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 7: But when it's like when it's heightening a little bit.

1285
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 5: You're like okay, and like I'm expected to be like

1286
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 5: taken on the escalator with this song, but it then

1287
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 5: then it's just like onto the next part and I

1288
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 5: can't really right And if you're at it, yeah.

1289
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 4: It's like I don't know if I'm imagining you running

1290
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 4: to it, it's like, yeah, it's not a steady pace

1291
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 4: for you to correct.

1292
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would shifting too much.

1293
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 5: Yes, I do agree.

1294
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 4: I like settling into a groove and finding a groove

1295
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 4: like and and being there even if it's fast, even

1296
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 4: if it's like hectic, like we're there, We're steady, and

1297
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 4: there is a lot of dips, there's ups downs, it's

1298
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: a I can confuse the brain.

1299
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 5: I think it's not what we're used to. I said

1300
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 5: it sounds British because it kind of sounds a little

1301
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 5: like The Cure to me.

1302
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: They're sn in there for sure. Yeah, totally.

1303
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 5: They're a big influence in that genre.

1304
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, what what about this song kind

1305
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 4: of made you, uh feel like it was the right

1306
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 4: pic a song?

1307
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to find a Shoegaz song that like

1308
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 2: was firmly I think a good representation of like kind

1309
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 2: of where the genre is now, and then, uh, I

1310
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 2: tried to find a song that, like the vocals were

1311
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: like at least a little bit more present than Shoegay

1312
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 2: songs typically are, because I knew you Sean were really

1313
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: in the Mountain Goat, so I like started, I'd never

1314
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: heard the Mountain Goes before, so I was listening to

1315
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: like their top five most popular songs on Spotify, and

1316
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: I realized that it was very sort of vocal driven

1317
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 2: and like acoustic guitar that type of thing. So I

1318
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: tried to find a song where, like it would the

1319
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: vocals were present, and it kind of felt like they were.

1320
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: The lyrics were a little bit more, a little bit

1321
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 2: more story like and the kind of talking about something

1322
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: rather than just kind of mumbling, and so that was

1323
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: kind of like the main thrust of it, because a

1324
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: lot of Shoegaz two is like a lot of it

1325
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: is kind of slower and more like uh like prodding

1326
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 2: or not prodding, that's not the right word, but like

1327
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 2: kind of like slower and like just moreh wallow sound. Yeah, patient,

1328
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: I tried to find something with a little bit more

1329
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 2: d energy and movement. It definitely does have more of

1330
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: that than a lot of Yeah, the songs I have heard,

1331
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 2: I do appreciate the vocal mix more.

1332
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 5: I like this style. I don't like that, Like when

1333
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 5: it's too very it's like, well, why even be there?

1334
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 5: Almost totally?

1335
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, just make an instrumental song.

1336
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's the name of the band?

1337
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: Sore eyelids?

1338
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 7: What is it with sweet?

1339
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 2: I mean, like, is it just I think in places

1340
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: where it's cold, they just make music like this, you know.

1341
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 7: Okay, that's interesting.

1342
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 2: You know, and southern California you get red hot chili peppers,

1343
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: bang a.

1344
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 5: Bong to bong.

1345
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad that you guys listen to the tune.

1346
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 4: You know, every time the guests listened to it, they

1347
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 4: got to give us a thumbs up or a thumbs down. So, uh,

1348
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 4: for this shoegase track, are you tying them on tight

1349
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 4: or are you throwing them over a power line?

1350
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 5: That's so that's what you do when you don't like shoes. Yeah,

1351
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 5: that is like the rudest gesture you can make.

1352
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever you see shoes on a power line, it's

1353
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: because the person really very.

1354
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 5: Very I'm tired of these.

1355
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to start signal you to my criminal Enterprise.

1356
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 8: I got binoculars like looking at the going like not

1357
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 8: going to buy these shoes. Whatever they are, they must

1358
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 8: be really uncomfortable.

1359
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 2: Blue Converse truck Chuck Taylor's are not the move this

1360
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 2: week this year.

1361
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 7: Okay, good to know. They must have changed the construction

1362
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 7: of them.

1363
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: So what's the book?

1364
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 8: I liked it enough to say I don't want to

1365
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 8: throw it over the power line. I'll tie him on tight.

1366
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 8: I would listen to this song again. I liked a

1367
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 8: lot of what they had going on instrumentally and and

1368
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 8: the vocals were president enough for me that I feel

1369
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 8: like I would chill with it.

1370
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 7: So let's tie him on tight, beautiful.

1371
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 5: I would probably leave them in a just like a

1372
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 5: box that says free cool. I don't think I like

1373
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 5: I you know, I would very happy for someone else

1374
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 5: to have them.

1375
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I hope this is great for somebody, not for me. Yeah,

1376
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 8: I would probably to be honest, what I would do

1377
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 8: with them is I would try them on and I

1378
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 8: would go, I think I'll wear these, and my what

1379
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 8: did you think of the shoes? And I'll go they

1380
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 8: were a little bit tight on the sides, but they'll

1381
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 8: break in. And then I would never wear them, and

1382
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 8: like a year ago by it and you go like,

1383
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 8: are you gonna get rid of some of these shoes? Yeah, yeah,

1384
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 8: well these ones, And I go, actually, I'm gonna, you know,

1385
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 8: I need to break these in still, and I would.

1386
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 7: I would wear them for a week and then I'd

1387
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 7: forget again.

1388
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 2: And then everyone's like, Sean, are those new shoes? And

1389
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: You're like, no, I just never wear them.

1390
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 7: It's interesting. Yeah, sit down, please, let's talk about this.

1391
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,560
Speaker 4: Well, thanks for voting on the track, guys, thanks for

1392
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 4: giving a listen and being open.

1393
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 2: Ken.

1394
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we gotta do this every episode.

1395
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: Say it, don't say it, don't say it's only for

1396
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: the video, that's for the pod viewers.

1397
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 7: Okay, what Kevin is doing in terms of direction, the

1398
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 7: thumb is going.

1399
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna play quick little game, a little

1400
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 4: NBA focused game. If you gotta bounce ha his totally understand.

1401
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 5: Any minute now. But it's this is an NBA focused game. Yes, yes, yes,

1402
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,799
Speaker 5: on the music show. Oh maybe it's like I created

1403
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 5: some synergy.

1404
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,879
Speaker 4: Great, we're gonna play a game called NBA, the National

1405
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 4: Bars Association.

1406
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 2: Huh.

1407
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 4: We're gonna play some tracks that were performed by NBA

1408
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,560
Speaker 4: basketball stars. We're gonna play a little bit of the

1409
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 4: track and we're gonna give you three potential NBA stars,

1410
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 4: and you guys have to guess who is the artist.

1411
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 5: Behind the track.

1412
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 7: Let's do it?

1413
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 5: Sounds sick, sounds sick as hell? Are you dying to play?

1414
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 2: All right?

1415
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and hear our first track?

1416
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 7: So many places in my life and time.

1417
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 2: Song, A lot of song he made some bad man

1418
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: sounds really good.

1419
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,799
Speaker 8: I've acted down my life for stages with ten thousand

1420
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 8: people watching.

1421
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: We're alone now and I'm singing this song to you.

1422
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 2: I know your image of me.

1423
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: Is what I hold.

1424
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 5: This is a cover? Rang is it?

1425
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 7: I treated Jesus a kind Dad, Darling?

1426
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 2: Can't you see? It's beautiful?

1427
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 9: Though?

1428
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 2: It's nothing more part to me.

1429
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 5: We're lone now.

1430
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: And I'm singing this song to This is a Donny Haway,

1431
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 2: This Donny Hathaway cover. All right?

1432
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 4: So your options is this Chris Paul now, just this

1433
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 4: Devin Booker.

1434
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 2: Or this Victor Old?

1435
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 7: Yeah he's good. Who does he sound like?

1436
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 5: You know?

1437
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 7: He sounds like a black to me? That's what That's

1438
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 7: who I was going to say.

1439
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sounds like.

1440
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 4: Sounded like something else. I was like, I don't know

1441
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 4: if there's a cover, but this is does not sound

1442
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 4: like it's.

1443
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,799
Speaker 2: It is a cover. It's a Donnie Hathway song. Apparently.

1444
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I don't know if I've ever I've ever

1445
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 5: heard him saying is one of the most famous moments

1446
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 5: in NBA history where he he.

1447
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 7: Came out to the dunk contest.

1448
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 5: He came out to the dunk contest. He put on

1449
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 5: a little like gangster hat and goes.

1450
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 7: Start spreading the news.

1451
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, because the All Star Game was in New York,

1452
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 8: so yes, but he was on the masked singer. Actually

1453
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 8: I watched some of that and I knew it was him,

1454
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 8: and I felt smart.

1455
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 5: And I think huge mask to do the dunk. No,

1456
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 5: this was before that.

1457
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 7: No, that was later that he dugged with a black

1458
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 7: bet their mask.

1459
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 4: Yep, that's wild about contest. Yeah, it was honestly pretty solid,

1460
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 4: pretty solid points on the board, five hundred points each.

1461
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:33,879
Speaker 5: Next track, Suburban Girl.

1462
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 2: Curious about the Dark Side met me at the track

1463
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: where our Heart lives attracted to the struggle in the

1464
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: hard times, like she missed something real, but my guard's high.

1465
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: I tried that.

1466
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 7: I definitely haven't yees, I know, parents don't approve me

1467
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 7: because she waits.

1468
01:14:55,400 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 5: Setomber from it sounds like some like drums on a kleenexpox.

1469
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, that says, let's do this.

1470
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 5: I think Sean and I have the same guess can

1471
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 5: we guess without absolutely absolutely? Is this Dame Doll? Yes,

1472
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 5: it is Dame Dalla Damian Lillard.

1473
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 4: Not bad totally, man, Yeah, five hundred point that's it's

1474
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 4: ten thousand points totally.

1475
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 5: All right.

1476
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 7: What's that what called?

1477
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 5: It's called track meet by Dame Doll?

1478
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 4: Track meat, Yeah, I believe.

1479
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a fun one. I like the I

1480
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 5: mean just like and also like the high school basketball

1481
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 5: star who was just laying extreme amounts of pipe.

1482
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very funny to like decide to be an

1483
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 4: NBA rapper and still rap about like the track meet

1484
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,879
Speaker 4: or sports where it's like, well, if you like, wouldn't

1485
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 4: you want to try and differentiate and be like I'm

1486
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,759
Speaker 4: just gonna I'm just gonna wrap a about other stuff

1487
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 4: that I.

1488
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 5: Don't love it.

1489
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, going to the mall.

1490
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 4: This is over like reservoir. All right, let's hit that

1491
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 4: next track.

1492
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a fun one.

1493
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 5: This is the kind of thing.

1494
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 9: I like, yes, we're in Vegas. Now, we're in Vegas. Now,

1495
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 9: this could be Coldplay. I like that, but because you said, yeah.

1496
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 2: The light stand ups.

1497
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 7: He's so amazing.

1498
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 4: This feels like a song in an elevator in Vegas.

1499
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, let's show them.

1500
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 3: We do.

1501
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 5: It's fine.

1502
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 2: We're coming for you.

1503
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 6: For life.

1504
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 2: I'm stuck your phone. Are you guys staying here? Are

1505
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 2: you just gambling? Oh no, we our buddies standing here.

1506
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 2: We're at the hard Rock Yeah, yeah, we can get.

1507
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 5: His room key if it's a big All right, guys,

1508
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 5: was that Tony Parker, Kareem or Ben Simmons?

1509
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 7: That?

1510
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,799
Speaker 5: What was my second? Tony Parker, Kareem Rush and Ben Simmons.

1511
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 5: It's not Ben Simmons. Kareem Rush is so not famous

1512
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 5: that I think I have to.

1513
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 8: Go with Kareem Rush. He would be a dummy example.

1514
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 8: But that's really funny that that's the kind of music

1515
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 8: of Kareem Rush. Yes, you're obviously corrected.

1516
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 5: Is Kareem Rush?

1517
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 4: And he honestly has some bad songs. I like, went

1518
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 4: through a couple and there's somewhere it's like the vocal

1519
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 4: chomps are not there.

1520
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's weird because that song is so

1521
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 5: his voice is so like tuned, Yeah, that it doesn't

1522
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 5: feel like something that's someone who likes music like would.

1523
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 5: It's so straight.

1524
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, bizarre. You wonder what the goal was.

1525
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 4: This song is called march on. He just wants to

1526
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 4: be playing in too Loom or something. It's such like

1527
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 4: a generic club party. It's like he wanted fucking YouTubers

1528
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 4: to use it for transition music or something.

1529
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 5: All right, that's good. I had no idea he did that,

1530
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:55,879
Speaker 5: mad respect. All right, let's hit it track like fourteen

1531
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 5: on the Cradle to the Grade.

1532
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 2: It's the second song that plays in the credits.

1533
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, international, mister world one ship. I think I

1534
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 5: might have a gas. Yeah, all right.

1535
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 2: You want to give him the options, Jacob.

1536
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 5: I mean I want to.

1537
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 4: I think if he's got the guess, I'll let him

1538
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 4: go for the guests, and if you're wrong, I'll read

1539
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 4: the options.

1540
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 5: Okay, So there you go.

1541
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 2: You heard that. You heard that?

1542
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 4: Oh oh, that was in the trend.

1543
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:51,879
Speaker 2: It was in the beginning.

1544
01:19:53,120 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 5: Damn, we should have known. That wasn't necessary really going

1545
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 5: to be my guest. I thought I read somewhere that

1546
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 5: Rudy Gobert did that too, but I knew that was

1547
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 5: one of the options was Gobert Gobert.

1548
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 7: They said, Tony p what's up?

1549
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was indeed Tony Parker. Okay, I think Rudy

1550
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 5: Gobert does rap. Also, that's also the type of rap

1551
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 5: that he would do. I think, yeah, that's good, weird.

1552
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 5: I like that, it was weird. I like French rap. Yeah. Yeah.

1553
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: The other option was Sergia Bucket.

1554
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 4: Oh well, thanks for playing along, guys.

1555
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 5: That was NBA, the National Bars Association.

1556
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 4: You guys came away with easily, I don't know, sixteen

1557
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 4: seventeen hundred points.

1558
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 5: You can redeem that.

1559
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 4: You can redeem that for a slice of pizza to

1560
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 4: Chuck e Cheese, the Eagle Rock Chuck that Cheese.

1561
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 5: They sell it by this.

1562
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 4: No, you say my name, will give you slice. Okay,

1563
01:20:55,720 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 4: Jacob Waizaki, Hey give me chick let me get special. Yes, yeah,

1564
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 4: I do work at that Chucky Cheese. I repair the

1565
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 4: animatrons and I slang slices of pizzas.

1566
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 5: And there's a wild kid, Jacob Wiseaki. The I mean

1567
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 5: the trick is you just sell them on the floor.

1568
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 5: You just like take the you heat of the pizza. Yeah,

1569
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 5: you just like tell the kids like, I'll give you

1570
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 5: a slice a pizza for like fifty cents instead of

1571
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 5: a dollar.

1572
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 7: Man, you're not gonna pay for that crap up there.

1573
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna wait that long line.

1574
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 5: Come on, dude, I got chulula in my pocket.

1575
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 4: If you want delivery, brother, well that option is available

1576
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 4: for you because you are our winners to Congress. Honestly, guys,

1577
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 4: thanks for thanks for being here, thanks for talking tunes,

1578
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 4: and uh, give me the opportunity to plug Liquid Death.

1579
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 5: Waiting for my case? I can't wait.

1580
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I've seen a lot of people get that

1581
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 7: for free.

1582
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, really try it, really really trying to get a

1583
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 5: case of Liquid Death.

1584
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 4: I'll give you my address, not from our page. Pal.

1585
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 5: You never know, you never know who you're gonna reach

1586
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 5: out to.

1587
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 7: I wish I wish you the best.

1588
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, boys, thanks for being on the pod.

1589
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 7: Thank you so much, great stuff, buddy, thanks for having us.

1590
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 2: Thanks for doing it. I've never heard of them. I've

1591
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: never heard of them. I've never heard of them.

1592
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 7: No,