1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: R and B Money. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: We are. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Thanks take valoti. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 3: We are the authority on R and B. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: My name is Tank and this is the Army Money Podcast, 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 3: the authority. 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: Come on on all things, come on, come R and B. 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Fix your beanie, man, your beanie not coming out. We 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: got my line of beanies is coming up. 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 4: Blax. 12 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: You know what I said. We've been working on this. 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: We got an R and B. 14 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: Singer Huh in the house, songwriter, songwriter, vocal production producer, 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: put it together. Performer RTIs artist huh cut himself. 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: I always got on some cool pants to always keep 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: a cool pant, lonely and a cool shade. 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: One of the most talented brothers I've I've ever come across. 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Man, Please we got him here. 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: Ken Yeah, get out my goddamn comments. 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: I had. 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: I would be rich a dollar. But every time somebody like, 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: when are you doing it? But they was doing it 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: like we don't know you Like I'm like, you do 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: know that. I heard of a guy you got to 26 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: love him trying to hit us over the head with. 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: If y'all was a real pod, y'all would have Keny 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: Dixon wrote, you know what right? No, I love it though. 29 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: That's real support. 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: That's the ship that we need as an independent artist 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: as well as Tyree would say, you know, because I'm 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm I'm independent. Indeed, Yeah, that's right there. You at 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: the right level to with the deepens is not. 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Indeed, he got marble behind it. You got marble. 35 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: Transforming twenty seven, he furious talking about. Indeed, stop this ship, man, Kenya. 36 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: We've been doing this for a long time, man. We 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 3: we've we've been on the road together, We've been in 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: a studio together. He got T G T story as 39 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: as you were kicking ass on stage during and during 40 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: that tour. Let's just throw that out there. But you 41 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: know how we do you know what I'm saying, like 42 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: we we we love to go back, you know to 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: the beginning as we were talking our Church stories before 44 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: you know, before the camera came on. We're not going 45 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: to tell you all all the stuff we was talking about. 46 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: Just know Church was in trouble. Where does it all 47 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: start for Kenyon Dixon? Man, where does it all start? 48 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: Where you identified that you know. 49 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 4: It? 50 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: I got something in Church? Probably not where somebody said 51 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: you know that yd damn boy right there? Man? Uh yeah, 52 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: church man, I'm born and raised in church, Ko koch kid. 53 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: My mother is like still right now, like a district evangelist, 54 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: like district, Like yeah, serious. 55 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: So it's a government in the sense you say district. 56 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: It's like I'm thinking of jurisdictions. Yeah, no, it's like congress. Yes, essentially, 57 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: in local government. That's what's the president of the church. 58 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: There are just the president. 59 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: There's there's no one one president. But there are guys 60 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: who are powerful that sit on the board up top, 61 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Bishops and Patterson and Blake 62 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: and yeah, okay, yeah. 63 00:03:53,640 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: You're saying, you know, I ain't ain't ko no, but 64 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: that was my upbringing. But yeah, man, in church, my 65 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: super musical family. I'm the youngest of seven in total. Shit, 66 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: six of us grew up in the same household. Everybody's 67 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: musically inclined to some extent. My pops guitarist, quartet singer. 68 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: My mother she sing so like it started in church 69 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: for sure, man, singing in the youth choir and like, 70 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, leading songs. When was your first solo? Well, 71 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: what was your first song? The song was? I just 72 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: I remember the lyrics. It's like you say that you 73 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: are my sheep, why aren't you following me? I can't 74 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: think of what the name of the whole song is. 75 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: That was my first solo. But you know, crazy enough, 76 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: even though it started in church and it was genetic, like, 77 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: I didn't love it singing in church. It wasn't like 78 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: because I had a family full of singers. So me 79 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: being the youngest, I'm like, I don't want to like 80 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: singing ain't really cool like that, like y'all all do it. 81 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: I gotta find something that you know, I can do 82 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: myself that y'all can't do, because that would make me 83 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: feel better. So I think I didn't really like develop 84 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: that love for singing until I was able to like 85 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: step back from church a little bit and started like 86 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: exploring on my own. That's when when I really like 87 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: fell in love with music. 88 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: I would say, do you think like I mean, as 89 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: most of us in church, you know, it starts off 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: as very much a requirement, like you know, a role 91 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: of the house. This is where you will be on Tuesday, 92 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: this is where Wednesday, this is where you will be 93 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 3: on Saturday. 94 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is where you will be on Sunday. 95 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: Yep, it was a and do you think that that 96 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: contributed to not feeling so great about it because it's 97 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: just like I gotta go to church, man. 98 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that I would say it did, man, because my 99 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: parents were like, you know, they were also preachers, so 100 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: they were heavily involved in the church. So my mother 101 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: was like teaching Bible studies. She was teaching YPWW and 102 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: YWCC all like the little program for you know, and 103 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: we were at quir rehearsal. Like, so I was at 104 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: church like Monday through Sunday pretty much like doing homework 105 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: on the pews, sleep in the back in the back 106 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: of the church, like you know what I mean. And 107 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: so I think it was also grew up in a 108 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: project so very different dynamic from the church setting number one, 109 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: So like what was happening outside and what I was 110 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: exposed to church just wasn't cool. That was just what 111 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: I knew because yeah, yeah, born and raised in Jordan 112 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: Dann's so like it wasn't it wasn't cool necessarily, and 113 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: not cool at school either, Like school culture was a 114 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: lot different. You know, like the amount of kids that 115 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: were okay with talking about that they went to church 116 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: like very small, but you're you kind of just listening, like, oh, 117 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: I identify, but I'm not going to tell y'all that 118 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: like this is this is my life. So I think 119 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: for a long time, yeah, it I would say it 120 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: contributed to it because I felt like this wasn't cool 121 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: like outside of here, like nobody, the majority of the 122 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: people around me and my daily life don't share this experience. 123 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: Like I'm seeing what they're doing. I'm seeing their parents 124 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: pull up playing uh all of the music I want 125 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: to listen to, you know what I mean, Your your 126 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: parents pull up, you get in the car and they 127 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: got John p Key on, Like it's like it was different. 128 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: It was different culture, you know what I mean. So 129 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: I think when I yeah, when I got the opportunity 130 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: to step away from it, I was I was like 131 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: happy because I felt like, all right, cool, now finally 132 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: get to like do what I want to do. Find 133 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: some of. 134 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: Your household like canes and minister society. 135 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: So I mean, it's George Down's. 136 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: They shot in the project and he had the grandfather 137 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: that was you know. 138 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: Have you ever given any. 139 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: Man? 140 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: It was again that that outside dynamic was definitely like comparable, 141 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: but inside of the house, like like my mother used 142 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: to make us like pray as a family before we 143 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: left for school in the morning, Like I had the 144 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: most coaching parents. Yeah, like you could ever have, you 145 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so like yeah, they they 146 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: cracked the whip in the house as soon as as 147 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: soon as you walked out that door. I'm a different 148 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: person because I've been to your projects before. 149 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care how much church you go to. 150 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a whole world. And it had it had 151 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: to be too because they think about it. Like I mean, 152 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, like from the hood, so gang culture is 153 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: you know what it is. Once you're especially in like 154 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: middle school, you kind of got to roll with your 155 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: people because also, like what's interesting you you was coaching 156 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: cuz from. 157 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: I'm changing, I'm changing all my handles. 158 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: I've been known to make up names that I'm rolling 159 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: one I'm rolling with coach cuz. But the the unique 160 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: thing about Watch is that you know, there are like 161 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: four different like main projects, yes, that share a lot 162 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: of the same spaces. Like one of the high schools 163 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: is Jordan High is connected to my projects. Like so 164 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: we had middle schools like I went to mark them 165 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: for a second, and that one you got people from 166 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: every hood like going to the schools. So the crazy 167 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: thing about like growing up in the hood is like 168 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: when you went there, they had to know like where 169 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: you were from because you had to kind of like 170 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: roll with your people the school. Did everybody at the school, Yeah, 171 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: like they kind of had to know, like, oh, you're 172 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: from this area because if not, you get back home, 173 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna have trouble in your own neighborhood because everybody 174 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: is kind of prison. Yeah. 175 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually is exactly if you think about it, 176 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: that's exact. So they were preparing some of these students, yeah, 177 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: for what they would have to do at reception. That's 178 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 2: the that's the school. The prison pipeline too, right, that's 179 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: where that's where it starts. And most of us don't 180 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: even think of it in those ways, but that's literally 181 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: already programming yep. 182 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: Literally on the yard and you're with you stay in 183 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: your corner with your people, you know what I mean. 184 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: And it was just like it was like an unspoken 185 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: territorial thing because it's like where you're from over here, 186 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: just naturally you don't talk to them lunches for you, 187 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: so tables, yep. But the whole time, I'm a church kid, 188 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: So like imagine that I'm here, like, yeah, I'm from 189 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: my area, but like it's like I can't even listen 190 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: to the music y'all listening to and I'm over here 191 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: like having to, you know, say like yeah, this. 192 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: Is my area, which is was there anyone else even 193 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: just not even at school, but even in the Jordan 194 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: Downs that went to church with y'all? Are we y'all 195 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: literally in the church house. 196 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: We were we were for sure the church house. Yeah, 197 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: we were for sure the church house. There was a 198 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: there's also our church wasn't in the neighborhood though, So 199 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: I went to church, grew up in the church called 200 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: Great Shop on eighty fourth and away and so whole 201 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: different hood. By the way, that also translates gang cultures. 202 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: Gang culture, it don't matter where you are. So also 203 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: going to church over there a lot of activity because 204 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: you're in a completely different hood. So you have people 205 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: from everywhere coming to church, but you got to still 206 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: watch your surrounding. So like crazy, it's crazy. So that's crazy. 207 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: There was a church called Holy Tabernacle that was like 208 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: the project church. That's the church all the game angers 209 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: will go to on Sunday. But like you just go 210 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: because you know on Sundays, you're supposed to go. 211 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: To church, you know what I mean. So everybody there 212 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: was a gang. There's a gang church every hood. That 213 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: one just yeah, because this one was right. This one 214 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: was right on the side of the projects, like in 215 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: the in the backstreets. 216 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: It was right there. So it was like and then 217 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: you know, like we talked about this off camera, but 218 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: ministry and outreach then was going into the neighborhoods. And 219 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: so that that's how everybody knew to come to these churches. 220 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: It's like, yo, if y'all ever want to come and 221 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: have a different experience, this is the church over here. 222 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: But see, like we didn't need that because I was 223 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: born and raised in the church. Yeah. So it's like 224 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: even for the people in my neighborhood that went to church, 225 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: their experience was still very different. They walk out of 226 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: the church in their back too, you know what I mean. 227 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: You in it the Monday through Sunday, like I couldn't. 228 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Even when people say, like, growing up in church, you 229 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: can listen to R and B Like I mean, like 230 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: I would get like whoopings for listening to R and 231 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: B music, Like if my mom found CDs that we 232 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: got from anybody else. I remember she found like a 233 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: tape from like when the box was cracking, Like you 234 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: had the box and somebody made my sister a tape 235 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: of a whole bunch of videos. My mom found that 236 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: and like went crazy, Oh my god, it's VHS tape, man. 237 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: And so they were tough, but I think, you know, 238 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 1: the underlying is always when your parents see kind of 239 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: the possibility of what can be created in those type 240 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: of environments, they think that that's what offsets it. Let 241 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: me be extremely tough on you to make sure that 242 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: you stay away from this because I don't want you 243 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: to be anything like it. 244 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 4: But they don't know. 245 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: Like a lot of times that creates more interest because 246 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: you want to know, like what am I missing? Because 247 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: it looks more fun on the outside, Like church doesn't 248 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: look fun. 249 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: You're just in it. 250 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: So what's the first secular I'm sorry, bro, what's the 251 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: first secular record you heard? 252 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: Where you was like, what's that? I found it? 253 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: Man? 254 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's like there's like parts to it. So 255 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: I remember listening to Anita Baker at a young age 256 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: because I had an older sister who by the time 257 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: she got out of the house, she was already into 258 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: like because you know, Anita Baker is like, if you 259 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: grew up in the church, you easy, that's easy. I'm 260 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: not just gonna tell me you heard pretty Ricky. I'm 261 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: not in the morning. It was like I need hey, 262 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: that's why I said. It's part too, you know. 263 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: But She's like, that's like church adjacent because its soul 264 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: still in his love. 265 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 4: So like. 266 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Like all of those side a sister who you know, 267 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: that's what she was listening to. So when I would 268 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: go and hang with my sister, I was able to 269 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: hear like stuff like that. And then Tyrese Is ironically 270 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: being from Watch he came and did it's like maybe 271 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: like a giveaway at will Rogers Park, and I had 272 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: to you know, I was like probably like twelve or something, 273 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: maybe even younger, and he gave away his CDs and 274 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: like you know, he performed. It was right at the gym, 275 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: and that was something like Tyese's music, ironically was some 276 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: of the first music that I remember listening to, which 277 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: was also interesting. And then find out my taste in 278 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: R and B once I got into it because it 279 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: was the same people. It was y'all, it was the underdogs. 280 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: It was you know what I mean. And I was 281 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: listening to Dawkins and Dawkins as a kid, so I 282 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: didn't even realize that that's what formed my my taste 283 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: in R and B music. To come to find out 284 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: it was the same people that was doing you know, 285 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: those records. So yeah, I remember a lot of his music, 286 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: and I got a little My mom gave me a 287 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: little room for it because it was like he was 288 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: more visible. This is somebody from the neighborhood. It seemed 289 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: like more of it seemed more inspirational than it did. 290 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to second music. Yeah, so yeah, man, I 291 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: guess I still started off kind of on the safe 292 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: side of R and B, but but I was dancing too. 293 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: That's a whole other side to the thing. Because we church. 294 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: They think that because we're from church. Yeah yeah, yeah, here, 295 00:15:55,160 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We'll get all of it, bro. Yeah, 296 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's LA culture. And I grew up 297 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: that was prime time, bro. I grew up like in 298 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: the middle of the battle zone that travels is it 299 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: Tommy Clown? That's so that was that was like my 300 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: middle school experience. Bro. That's when everybody was into like 301 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: clown dancing, and so that's when I got exposed to 302 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: the music that that was ying and everything. So that 303 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: was different. But my mom still, like I think she 304 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: kind of started accepting my interest, but it was church. 305 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: Parents are like, if that's what you're gonna do, find 306 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: somebody that's basically gonna look after you, because I don't 307 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: want no parts of it. And that's what happened. Like 308 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: I had like basically a chaperone who was responsible for 309 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: me in any space that wasn't that wasn't church, and 310 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: she would have to like who was that? It was 311 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: my godmother, Jacqueline Sims, And she used to work at 312 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: the gym and the projects and the Jordan Downs. She 313 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: would see me dancing. She saw that I had, like 314 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, she felt like I had more potential than 315 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: the what was what could be cultivated in the environment. 316 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: Basically it's like I want to take you over here. 317 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: She took me to a real dance studio. I still learning, 318 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: but my mom because it wasn't church, it wasn't gospel, 319 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: it was like she got to do it. Like my 320 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: mom didn't really she didn't come to no shows, no, 321 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: like she was very very strict church KOJK, like they're 322 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: not having it. So but she still allowed you to 323 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: do it, She allowed me to do it. Yeah, I 324 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: just basically had to make sure I don't want to 325 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 1: say it wasn't visible, but basically like non existent to her, 326 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 327 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: So or there was probably framed a certain way. Yeah, 328 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 3: just so that you know, even if she wasn't so much, 329 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 3: you know, rooting for it. Yeah, yeah, she could at 330 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: least respect it against it. 331 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's really it's all about like optics too, 332 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 2: and perspective, because you know, church people are like extremely judgmental. 333 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: I've never I've never talked to my mom about this, 334 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: but I would bet that a huge part of the 335 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: reason was because of what she thought other people would think, Like, 336 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: are you're letting your kids be out here? 337 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 338 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: That's church culture the best exactly. So to a certain degree, 339 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: you are heathen. Oh absolutely, just for to go dance. 340 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: And complete rebel. And I was cool with that. I 341 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: was cool with it. Yeah, I knew. I knew, Like 342 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: once I got my first real taste of R and 343 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: B music, I'm like, oh no, this is me screen different. Yeah. Yeah, 344 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: I'm like I'm not I'm not supposed to do gospel, 345 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: and that's such a tricky thing because you know, in 346 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: the church, they believe you're not even using your gifts 347 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: unless you are contributing to gospel. So that was also 348 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: like a weird space to have to work out of 349 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: because it's like, here's something that I feel I'm like 350 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: super purposeful in and there's a lot of connectivity here, 351 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: and I'm battling with having to convince myself that i 352 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: should be doing it because based on what y'all are 353 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: telling me, this is something that I shouldn't even have 354 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: interest in. So it was it was crazy dynamic. 355 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: Man. 356 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: It takes like. 357 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: It has taken some time, and it's still taking, I 358 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: think time for church people to understand that God is 359 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: not just in church and that the opportunities that that 360 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: God awards you, yeah, they're not just in church, you know. 361 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 4: What I mean. 362 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: Like the idea that this song about my life is 363 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: changing my life, my family's life, the life of people 364 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: who are listening to it. 365 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm able to. 366 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: See the world as a result of this song that 367 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 3: I've written and sang with the gifts that God has 368 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: given me. Yep, somehow especially back then with the days 369 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 3: we're talking about, that's not of God. Yeah, and it's 370 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: a total contradiction to everything that God represents in terms 371 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: of how I know, you know what I'm saying, like 372 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: the gift was given to me for a reason, right, 373 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 3: and so for me, like it's always, it was a 374 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: it was a it was a battle at first because 375 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: it was just like I was. I was so I 376 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: won't say beat over the head, but I was just 377 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 3: so it was it was preached into me that unless 378 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: you're doing it for God, yeah. 379 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: It means nothing. Nothing. Yeah, let's talk. When was the first. 380 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: I want to know, I want to know your first 381 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: like real R and B upper level professional experience. 382 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: Man, let's see, I take you back to the beginning. Man, 383 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: my first like professional gig, first ever, because you know, 384 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: I got into the game background. I was singing background 385 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: for DJ Quick and it was like me Teres Martin, 386 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: my sister was singing with me, h D. Halloway on drums. 387 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: It was like a big like La squad. And so 388 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: that was my first most talented people of man. Yeah, yeah, literally, man, 389 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: that was my first like yeah first and I was 390 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: like right out of high school. So it was also 391 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: crazy because I had just decided that like all right, 392 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do music for real, like I want to sing. 393 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: So I started there and I felt like my next 394 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: gig that kind of then opened up the portal. I 395 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: started singing with Tyresse. That was my first So you 396 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: went from quick to Tyresse. Yeah, so like and I 397 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: still you know what I mean, I still and the 398 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: introm was still doing like kangeroom Man, like Cozies and 399 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, I still did all 400 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: of our spots and had the proper progression to prepare 401 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: me for you know, being in that space. But working 402 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: with Tyrese, I feel like that's where that kind of 403 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: started to form form my real career for like, okay, cool, 404 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: this is who I am, this is what I'm doing, 405 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: and like so many experiences started started there. 406 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 3: For sure, He's definitely like your number one fan, oh 407 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 3: for sure. Like all I used to hear is man. 408 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: Stigga Ken did it again. You know he's just you know, 409 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: he's just that voice. 410 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 4: Clear. 411 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: He's a prolific writer, the nigga singer's ass off. You 412 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: know everything that you hear me doing people him, you know, 413 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: one is here the other one is seized. My god, 414 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: ye loves loves. 415 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: Against y'all too, like if it was if it was 416 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 2: if this was a sport. Yeah, he's picking y'all as 417 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 2: y'all y'all in the in the Big three, ty y'all 418 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: to Tyrese has gotten me in siege, into arguments with 419 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: people that we didn't even have nothing to do with 420 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: what No he said he had he had seized in 421 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: a full beat war. I'm like with with with Swiss beats. 422 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, didn't even ask for that? Oh 423 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: my god, Yeah, he's just killing the goat. I don't 424 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: think he asked you to do that. That's him. 425 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: Man. 426 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: I for sure been thrown into some fire like king. 427 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 2: He'll wipe anybody in here. I'm like, bro, here's what's 428 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: crazy about you though. It's like you just be sitting 429 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: there like sneakers to stop talking. Bro, your face don't 430 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: looks like you don't want it. But because you're just 431 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: always cool, you're not reactive. 432 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: It's just like this, I'm nice, but I just don't 433 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: want to everywhere it's love. 434 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I say that because yeah, his favorite that's 435 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: when I first heard about you, Yeah, is when he 436 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: was when he was throwing you out there like this 437 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: niggas college, I was like, okay, he he nice. 438 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: And then was tg T right after that. Gg T 439 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: was right after because I did I worked on Open Invitation, 440 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: and then it was when you worked on T G 441 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: T YEP that I was like, you wrote, you wrote 442 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: a few things on yeah. 443 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: Uh f y h and co wrote hurry and uh 444 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: sex never felt better the single yeah we we when 445 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: I F y Yeah. 446 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when I was like, okay, this niggas called 447 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: because he pushed, he pushed heavy for you to be 448 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: a part of that project Heavy. 449 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember the battles because it was a battle 450 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: of where we were going to create the music. You know, 451 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: you know Tyrese has his ideas of everything should be 452 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: done here in his camps. Yeah yeah, yeah, So it 453 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: was a you know, just a battle of how it 454 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: was going to work, which was even the story of 455 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: like touring. I mean, I'll go back to the songwriting, 456 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: but to that point of being thrown into the fire. 457 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember. We did a show 458 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: in Detroit and it was the I think it was 459 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: the last show of the tour, and we all got 460 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: solos and everybody did their solo and after my solo, 461 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: Tyree says we won and starts crip walking, and I'm like, bro, 462 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: because then yes, Rick, So then we get backstage and 463 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: now Linni, Linnie and Resa in a full blown argument 464 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: bro because all because Reese was like like. 465 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: Yo, Ken, I smoked y'all. I'm like, bro, like these 466 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: my homies. Bro, you can't just say stuff like that, 467 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 2: and like they were line. He was like his backstage 468 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: like I smoke you though, that's yo, that's you know, 469 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: Lonnie ready, broady. 470 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: All over all over a solo. Yeah, that is like 471 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: you don't want to see me though. Liken was ready 472 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: for the singing battle. The battle Tyre, the sun came up. 473 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 5: But in all fairness, you did, Cook, I appreciate you, 474 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 5: shout out to my brother. 475 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: It's just you know, he just got to be extra 476 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: like why would you start crip walking? He started crip walking. 477 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: I was like, we won real loud on the mic. 478 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't think it was weird 479 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: because I felt he was he was claiming you. 480 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, when I was like, first of all, he's he's 481 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: all us okay, right, yes, for all of us. 482 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: That's how I felt, man. But those those uh, those sessions, yeah, 483 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: we were figuring out because we started. We started prematurely 484 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: again true to Tyrese. We we basically had an album 485 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: done before y'all even decided that y'all were working on 486 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: the album as as a group. So we had a 487 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: we had a whole other song out. He did I 488 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: had shot was in the streets heavy. He had other plans, 489 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: so we were in there. We were in there working 490 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: bro and and with the fy H record. It was 491 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: crazy because he had I think he had just played 492 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: it for you, y'all may have been at the Underdogs. 493 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: We were at his house working on something completely different. 494 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: I was working on another song for something else, and 495 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: he called like, because when I wrote the song first 496 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: did it at the crib first verse hook? You know, 497 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: because everybody writes, so it's like, you need to write 498 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: a whole song first verse hook. He called me like, 499 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: we need the second verse now. I was like, okay, 500 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: So we stopped. We were doing in the session. Mahomie 501 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: Javonte was with me in that session, so he helped 502 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: me with that second verse and we got we just 503 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: knocked it all out and sent it back. So I 504 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: think that was probably that first time that you heard 505 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: heard the record. You know, it only takes a little 506 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: bit of something for him to go all the way. 507 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: So even if everybody was like, this is a nice record, 508 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: that's probably what that call was, like, Yo, you gotta 509 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: we need this right now. Everybody's ready to record it. 510 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Nobody probably said that they were ready to record. 511 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 4: You know. 512 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked out for me though. Absolutely. 513 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: We gotta think of a more powerful word. He's new here, 514 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: he's leading, leading, leading the witnesses. Bro. 515 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: When you sent when I heard that B section, I 516 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that's that's one of my favorites on 517 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: the project. Appreciate you man. I was like, you smashed 518 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: that joint. 519 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: Man. 520 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: I said this, niggas, I'll take the be sections I had. 521 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: We had a we wanted you to when we did Hurry, 522 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: you were supposed to take the verse that Reese was singing, 523 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: but he snatched it and was like, because that's why 524 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: I had the falsetto in there. 525 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't want to do Hurry. 526 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 3: I didn't like Hurry at first, and I think I 527 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: think that wasn't me. I don't think it was more 528 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: so much so of me not liking the record. It 529 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: was just at that time, Reese was just pushing every 530 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: record he had. You know what I'm saying, like fuck 531 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: hurry and fuck the other songs you brought, and you like, 532 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: these are the songs we're gonna gehan. I was just 533 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: in that space, and then as the project started progressing, 534 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: I went back and listened to it and I. 535 00:29:51,680 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: Was like, this is cold, all right, I'm recorded. That 536 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: was an Isa is like the genius behind that record? 537 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: Who sing the who sing the demo? So there's ia 538 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: she had. She has a demo version where it's just her. 539 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: Then there's a version that's me. Uh see Lacey and 540 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Sledge who sing the first verse? First verse is 541 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Sledge. I feel like yep, it feels like yep. 542 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: First verse Aaron Sledge. See Lacey's second verse. I was 543 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: the third verse which we were trying to have you 544 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: do and Reese is like nah, because he's used to 545 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: me do Tayloring. 546 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: Everything to yeah, yeah you have you had his formula. 547 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: I remember we were mad though. I was like, man, 548 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: I really wanted him to have that that verse. 549 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: Man, you know, Reese don't singing falsetto at all, so 550 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: we lost all the falsetto. He killed it still, but. 551 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: It's like, damn, man, you're writing credits, you know, if 552 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: we could ever get that album licensed, some money waiting 553 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: on both of us. 554 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hey man. 555 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: And then so is that soon after that you start 556 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: going into like solo mode and kind of creating your 557 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: own thing. 558 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: Or were you already doing that? I was already a 559 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: solo artist, man, like putting out music or just yeah. 560 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: I started on MySpace, bro, and then went into like SoundCloud. 561 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: A lot of my following came from from SoundCloud, Like 562 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: I used to do a bunch of covers and release 563 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: like originals, but my first so starting off like doing 564 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: live shows outside of like the open mic stuff. Me 565 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: and yg Bro. We used to do shows together at 566 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: the Knitting Factory all the time, Knitting Factor and even 567 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: everyore and so at the time you didn't know the 568 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: power in that, like those hard tickets. We were like 569 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: seniors in high school and like fresh out of high 570 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: school as well, we were doing them shine heey shows 571 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: where you got to sell a hundred tickets per ticket. 572 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: After that, like it was something crazy, but we didn't 573 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't know, and we were like selling 574 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: these shows because it was our homies. We had a 575 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: big followings, la, you know what I mean. And I 576 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: have been doing my own music since then, and so 577 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: when I got into background singing, you know, at first, 578 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: it's the you're excited because it's like, dang, I'm working 579 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 1: with all these cool people, you know what I mean, 580 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: on the roll with this person and this person doing 581 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: all these shows. But I was still doing my own music. 582 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: So it got to a point to where like I 583 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: had to learn how to like position it. When I 584 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: started to realize, like, nah, I really am an artist, 585 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: Like this is what what I want to do. And 586 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: at one point when I toured, I mean fast forward, 587 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: but I was touring with Justin Timberlake in like twenty eighteen. 588 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: Maybe we can we can we say how you got there? Though? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 589 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: that's not a I got Yeah. You go from I know, 590 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: Jordan down yeah to Justin Timberlin. 591 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: Let's there's a process in there and people should understand 592 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: that other than just thinking, oh, well I'm gonna do 593 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: what Kenyon Dickson. 594 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Yeah, those points like 595 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: this is and how many years. But let's see man 596 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: so so again. Starting with quick went to Tyrese start 597 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: working with tg T you was you was singing Pitcheon 598 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: on the party. 599 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: I was. 600 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: Everything, yeah, yeah matter you know? So Tyree was Scooter, 601 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: Scooter slash BJ's brother. Scooter was the m D. I 602 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: got a call about about like, uh, I mean, you know, 603 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: like when you sing around the city, everybody knows. That's 604 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: kind of how it worked out here, like being at 605 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: Cozy's and like our different spots Foxhole. It was like 606 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: all the m d s and the musicians that m 607 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: D the artists are always there, so when it's time 608 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: for singers, it's like, well we know who to you 609 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: know to call. So I got a call from Scooter 610 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: like it was an audition for a Tyree show, but 611 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: like also not really an audition. It was like we're rehearsing. 612 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: It was for like a it's called like the norm 613 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: Convention or something. We're rehearsing for this convention. Tyree needs 614 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: some singers like we're they're at sir, It's like you 615 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: can get down here, like it's yours. 616 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: I'm like all right, So I called some singers too, 617 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: like yo, y'all. Yeah, you know, pull up because we 618 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: know the unit. 619 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: We've worked together, so I go in there after Like 620 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: my first show with Tyres, most of us that were 621 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: singing with him like didn't stay on the gig, but 622 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: they were like kept me there, Like y'all want you 623 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: to be the one like in charge of the vocal 624 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: So I became like Tyree's like vocal director. Like at 625 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: one point I was the only singer on the road 626 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: traveling with him, you know what I mean, And like 627 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: sometimes they have me working out overtime, but sometimes I 628 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: would like be sending out charts and break down some 629 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: song parts to like other singers that were about to 630 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: meet in the city at a show, Like we got 631 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: a show in Atlanta. I need two singers, but I'm 632 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: the constant. So I'm ana see y'all at sound check. 633 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: Here go the notes in whichy'all need to know, Like 634 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I was doing that 635 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: after tyresee, I got a call randomly from Onetzsche to 636 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: sing background with Mike Posner. Adam Blackstone was at the time, 637 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: and so we did Ellen first with Mike Posner, then 638 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: started singing Kelly Rowland. Everything just kind of start you 639 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: remember play in the league with us. 640 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: Of course, Mike hysterical, we have to touch No, Mike 641 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: Posner was one of the funniest teammates I ever had 642 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: in my life. Yeah, because he did not give a fuck, right, 643 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: Because yeah, I think this that it was an NBA 644 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: entertainment league. So you got the biggest egos possible playing basketball, 645 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: but guys that can't play basketball with that same ego, right, 646 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 2: So you just used to that You're like the little 647 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 2: nigga from mackham in the middle thing he on score, 648 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: its terrible whatever whoever it is, right, Yeah, And I 649 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: remember meeting Mike and I hadn't put two and two 650 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: together that he was the guy with the song that 651 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: I like, Right, But I'm like, he's actually really a 652 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: cool ass, little white nigga. 653 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: Ain't tripping like Mike you want to go sorry, I'm like, bro, 654 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: she's going for a minute. Mike was cool. It's hell. 655 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: He was just like the nicest dude who had no 656 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: complaints about nothing. Nobody really paid him no attention. And 657 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: then heone was gonna do Arenas. 658 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: And it was like just like wait, what wait, you 659 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm say? You notice the. 660 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 2: Same guy who now I guess you see that shitn't 661 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: be doing now he's like walking the country. Yes, absolutely, 662 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: the niggas walking the country. 663 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: Polar opposite from like he's walking, he's walking. 664 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: He's just living life, bro that he's walked pretty much 665 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 2: from New York to. 666 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: L A already. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, why why not? 667 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: He wants to experience the country. It is kind of that, 668 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: but it's more it's more how far far? 669 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 3: So? 670 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: What are you gonna walk the whole country? 671 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: It's just one of those if you've accomplished all your 672 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: goals and now you're like, what else can I do? 673 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. No, no cocaine, hey man, 674 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: and every city I got you, but no man. I 675 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: started so the Mike Posner, Mike Posner. Then you know, uh, 676 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: I started working Kelly, rolling that tour with Kelly, and 677 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: then there's you know, there's like a bunch of like 678 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: random one offs. You became, you became the go to, 679 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: you came to go to sing with Carl Thomas, and 680 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: like just a bunch of you know, a bunch of people. 681 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: So in like twenty sixteen, I get a call from 682 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin. Funniest call by the way, I get a 683 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: call from Kirk Franklin. He's doing his twenty years. Actually 684 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 1: before that, I was with Nick Jonas right before Kelly. 685 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: I got a call from You're going, this is the 686 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: range in this. It prepared me than me. You know 687 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: what I mean? You see motivation what? Yeah? But it 688 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 1: was great, bro, and it was me putting every growing 689 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: up having all these talents didn't make sense. It was 690 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: I was starting to see why that helped. Because you 691 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: sing with somebody like Kelly. They decided it would it 692 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: would look a lot better if we could minimize the 693 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: singers in the stag get singers who can dance. Well, 694 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: guess who's the singer that can dance. I go with 695 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: Nick Jonas and it's like, man, we need don't validating 696 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: his bullshit. Man, you brought you brought me into that. 697 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 2: There's no videos. 698 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: Oh my damn, with genuine dancing. Later he's singing, we 699 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: need the videos because that would have been your time. 700 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: That would have been your time. Keep it, keep it 701 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: a buck. He didn't want me to do all that. 702 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: Keep it a buck. Did you have one of them? 703 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 1: About the videos. 704 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 3: Part they made up the ambulance ambulancer, They made the avalance. 705 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: That's d left supposed to be coming up something something. 706 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: I think they say, something happened to him. That is 707 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: that's one of the most man, you got the worst script. 708 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: They said, I think something that had happened to him. 709 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, bro, I'll never forget that man watching 710 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: that in real time after school, it's crazy. 711 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 2: Yes, that bro, that's crazy. Alright, you're doing this and 712 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: now you're dancing and yeah, literally getting on all these 713 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 2: that require both. 714 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, this makes sense now, you know, 715 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: because I had transition out of the dance world, like 716 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: I was dancing for real and it got to the point. 717 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: This is like when dance like took a turn and 718 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: you got auditions and stuff like that, and it was 719 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: it was now about like the who you know in 720 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: the room. So you'd be wasting your time if you 721 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: walk in there and you don't know nobody, Like just 722 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: being good, ain't it? Didn't you know, didn't do anything. 723 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: So that's why he stopped. 724 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 4: Just being good wasn't enoughing. 725 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: Man, So I uh get a T shirt shirt. I 726 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: need the video. It's personally I got you. You know 727 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Where full choreography? Baby? I got you choreography. 728 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: Ro shout out to Roro. He you know, say less. 729 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: He always shouts rot because you know, everybody know Roro. 730 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 2: They don't know about his dancing, but they know everybody. 731 00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 4: Who does. 732 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 3: Sure, come coach me for the dream Girls audition, the 733 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 3: dance part of it, which I killed. If that's all 734 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 3: tape to audition, lose that tape. Oh God, burn that file. 735 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey people, we need to find tank. 736 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 2: Stumps for the love of that's out there somewhere. If 737 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: that is a career killer, it's a career killer, it's 738 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: a career killer. Okay, So you dancing and singing. 739 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: I was dancing and singing auditioned for dream Girls, by 740 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: the way, for like a part it was like a 741 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: random this is when I was still dancing. It was 742 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: like a random group that's shown when they do this 743 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: like commercial in there and they're singing this like Jackson 744 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: five type song. That was like. That was also like 745 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: one of my like last dance auditions. I knew, like cool, 746 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: I just want to sing. But I get a call, 747 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: you know, so I after work on all these people, 748 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: I get a call like I want you to come, 749 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: And it was Kirk Franklin like he calls me literally 750 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: calls me like I know who you are. It was 751 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: so like anonymous. It felt like like this Kirk Franklin 752 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: like you know, I know you are, calls you like 753 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: like prince basically I know. Yeah. He's like, He's like, 754 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: I got a tour coming up in February, and I 755 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: want you to come and work with me. And at 756 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: the time it was tricky because I had got a 757 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: call that I would have possibly been going on this 758 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: Rihanna tour. Of course I would have loved to do that. 759 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: So I'm like, but Kurk needed an answer like right away, 760 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, cause if I tell 761 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: you no and then this don't come through now, don't 762 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 1: got nothing, you know what I mean. So he was like, 763 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: I just need to know, and like he ended up 764 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: being like can you let me know boy this date. 765 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool. But the funny thing 766 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: about Kirk Kirk is Kirk, you know what I mean. 767 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: I grew up in church like Kirk is Michael Jackson 768 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: to me, you know what I mean. 769 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: Kirk is like yeah, man, So like I promise you 770 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 2: I'm a good person, like I know, you know, like 771 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 2: he mentioned some people that he knew. 772 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: I knew. It was like, and you can ask him 773 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: about me. And I'm like on the phone cracking up 774 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: cause I'm like, nigga, you Kirk Franklin yourself yet like, yeah, 775 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm going regardless, man. So I go with Kirk. I 776 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: do the twenty years in one night tour. First, we 777 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: do some one offs. 778 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 2: Gospel different first of all, and let me also put 779 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 2: it out there. 780 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: Touring with Kirk. That's probably some of the best money 781 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: I ever made in my life. Kirk is a person. 782 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 2: He makes like he's competitive when it comes to being 783 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 2: in that space, and I really appreciated that because the 784 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: you know, the thought is if I go to god 785 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: like gospel, I'm about to take some l's because y'all 786 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 2: ain't gonna pay. 787 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: Like Kirk was like, what you need, We're good. 788 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 2: So the other thing though, because it's gospel, everybody's just 789 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 2: good already. 790 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: So I'm used to like preparation, like send me a 791 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,959 Speaker 1: set list, send me. And we had a show coming 792 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: up before we even started rehearsing for tour, and I 793 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: was book for that show and I felt like that 794 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: show was like the kind of like the audition like, 795 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: let's see, nobody had a set list, and I kept 796 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: being like, you know, like what songs do I need 797 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: to know? When I got in the car and asked 798 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: about like sound check, everybody was like laughing. It was 799 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, we don't do that, like we 800 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,959 Speaker 1: just get on stage and kill. 801 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 2: So gospel is equivalent to the All Star Game depending 802 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: on who you're working with right now. 803 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: I mean, like I'm talking about at the highest level. 804 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, like so because like you said, everybody, yeah, everybody's 805 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 2: they're they're already good that these people are already been 806 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 2: so they've been going to church for Monday through Sunday. 807 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: So it's perfecting their craft yep. And you know, like 808 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: for me on the inside, I'm like, oh my god, 809 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm in the in the van, like I'm just 810 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: about to walk on stage. I don't know any of 811 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: I know how to find a part from church, you 812 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Everybody's yeah, so I'm. 813 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 2: Like cool, I could sing, I know how to not 814 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 2: go down and flames. Most importantly, so like we. 815 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: Did that show, it was like no pressure, Like either 816 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: Kirk really knew because he told me. When Kirk called me, 817 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: I was honest with him. I was like, I said, look, man, 818 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: I'm an R and B singer. Like at that point, 819 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 1: I was already you know what I mean, like putting 820 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: on my own music. I was like, I don't like, 821 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gospel, So like, if you that you're looking for, 822 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna be a good fit. And 823 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: Kirk was like, I'm not looking for a gospel singer. 824 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 3: Bro. 825 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm like, if your heart, I could tell 826 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: if your heart is in the right place. Like He's like, 827 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: I want to show. I want to show and a 828 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: good person, a person, a good person. You got all 829 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: of that, and then you start really growing in your 830 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 1: solo space. Yeah. 831 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 3: Do you feel like those moments and being, you know, 832 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 3: having those connective tissues with those artists and the support 833 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 3: I would imagine, Yeah, those artists really helped you start 834 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 3: to really grow in the space of your solo space 835 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 3: where it really started pushing detraction for you. 836 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: I think it. I think it gave me a different 837 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: level of confidence and enhanced my vision because much like 838 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: anybody else who's like interning, are you know in that space, 839 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm literally seeing what it is I desire, So like 840 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: talking about manifestation, it couldn't be more real. I'm literally 841 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: standing feet from where I would like to be, you 842 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, and then you know, there 843 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: are like certain things I learned from every artist that 844 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: I work with. With JT. It is that it was 845 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 1: that the show business aspect of it, how to get 846 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 1: out there and really, you know what I mean. Working 847 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 1: working with with y'all, with the fellas is like Tyrese 848 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: is the it's the persona with you, I'm it's like 849 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: seeing like go for it, you know what I mean? 850 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: Like g is that that performance aspect, how to be 851 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: how to be the ladies man, y'all all are though 852 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: that's literally R and B, you know what I mean. 853 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: So I've learned like something from every single person I've 854 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: been on stage with. And I think that that even indirectly, 855 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: like being around everybody has somehow everybody's played the part 856 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: in who I've become. 857 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 2: To be sure, Yeah, should as you should. It's preparing 858 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 2: you for for your moment. Yeah yeah, And you got 859 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 2: how many projects out? Because you know we're talking about 860 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 2: this area. What you got nine? 861 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: It might be like nine only considered three of them albums, 862 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,439 Speaker 1: but the other ones were like I had. 863 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 3: To buy, yeah, because to thank you for buying it. 864 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 3: There's there's a purchase. They're not just you know, they 865 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't give away. I only consider three when they I 866 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 3: bought nine, so it's all of them at least. 867 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: No, that's what's the name of say that again? What's 868 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: the name of your label? The R and B Love? Yeah, 869 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 1: R and B Love, the R and BU Love of 870 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 1: the R and BU label. I've officially locked it in 871 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: the R and B You Love because I was album Yeah, 872 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: but you love. That's that's kind of my That's that's 873 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: my It kind of embodies everything that I do, man, 874 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: because I think I'm like a walking poster of. 875 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 2: Modern R and B influenced by the R and B 876 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 2: we Love. When we talk about the R and B 877 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 2: we Love, it's really it's really. 878 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: The feeling and how to experience those feelings that we 879 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 1: got when we listen to certain stuff, when we watch 880 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: certain stuff like so I'm really like a student of 881 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: the game at all times. And when I make my music, 882 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: like my last album, and I did it with the 883 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: album before that, I would put on like even videos 884 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: of of Anita, of Luther, of like Joe and like 885 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean you name it, mut it and try and 886 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: recreate that feeling in the music of what I'm looking at, 887 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that's how I knew. 888 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: That's how I know when my albums are done, and 889 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: when I can listen to a song and it feels 890 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: like what I felt. That's why I call it the 891 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: R and B you love because it's it's literally I 892 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: think there's a formula there, and if you could tap 893 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: into the formula and not be scared. It takes a 894 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: little more time because everybody's exposed. There's massive exposure to 895 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 1: something that's the opposite of what it is you're trying 896 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: to create. But if you're down for the long game, 897 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: which aren't, that's really what R and B is, then 898 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You're cool with making it. 899 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: So R and B you love, you love with you? 900 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: Do you know all of your albums off hand? I should? Okay, 901 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 1: I want you to name. 902 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 3: The albums, and as you name the albums, he's gonna 903 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 3: flash the album. 904 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 2: Because what we got to get into is we got 905 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 2: to get into selling this product. Okay, okay, okay, let's go. 906 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: So are we are we naming just the ones on 907 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: streaming platforms all of all of them, Okay. So I 908 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,439 Speaker 1: started with an EP called it Ain't Easy, It Ain't 909 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: it Ain't Easy. Then I put out a project called 910 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,439 Speaker 1: Hollywood and Highland that was like my first like LP 911 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: technically street. Yeah, that was my first LP. From there, 912 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: I went to Higher Ground, Higher Ground. From there, From 913 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: Higher Ground, I think I went to project called twenty 914 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: four from twenty four we Should Talk. I think. 915 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 2: From We Should Talk, a few of these might be 916 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 2: out of order, but these should be all albums. 917 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: From We Should Talk, I did a project called R 918 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: and B Kenny, which is where the moniker came from. 919 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: Just you know, after we Should Talk, I mean, after 920 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: R and B Kenny, I put out a project called 921 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 1: Niggas Getting Motional Too. I felt that title, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 922 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: I felt that that was one of the ones, man, 923 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: it was. It was a very honest project feelings. So 924 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: after after that, I put out Expectations, and that's that 925 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: was during the pandemic. That's when, like, that's the project 926 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,439 Speaker 1: that kind of started my ascension as an artist. After 927 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: that project, actually before Expectations, it was an EP called 928 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:35,240 Speaker 1: Switch that turned into Expectations. After Expectations, I dropped Closer, 929 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: which is my album before the last one and my 930 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: my latest album, The R and B Love. So I 931 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, I feel like that's all over you. 932 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: It'll be somebody in the comments. Won't sound class my 933 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: favorite one. Yeah, countless covers, countless covers like those count 934 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 1: But we want to move your product. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, 935 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: that's why here. That's why we're here, man. 936 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 2: We're here to promote the culture, yes, sir, all forms 937 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 2: of especially when. 938 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: It's independent, the real independent. 939 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 2: See he said he don't got Marvel behind his own 940 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 2: real the real You don't got Marvel, don't. 941 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? 942 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 2: And then I need god, I need you to say, 943 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 2: needs you to say, this is the greatest album you 944 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 2: ever heard. 945 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: Then I feel a jingle coming. 946 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 2: Listen, you got his piano and ship man? You did 947 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 2: you bring the drums with you? 948 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: I got I got twenty dollars. You got it in one? 949 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 1: Do you got it in one? 950 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 3: You know? 951 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 5: You know me? 952 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: N you know I have it in one? Of course, 953 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: of course I got a stack in the house. 954 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 6: Man. 955 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: My wife being like, why do you have all these ones? 956 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: Just don't care. I don't make it. 957 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 3: We gotta where is the supreme shooter? We need that 958 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 3: you remember you would have the Supreme No, you had it. 959 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 1: I did not see. I think I did take it. 960 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:12,839 Speaker 4: On the road. 961 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: We had had a supreme shooter. They used to shoot 962 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: the ones we're going. We were going, Yeah, yeah, I'm 963 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 1: not way. 964 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 4: Wait out nowhere you're going? Man, Kenyon Dixon, is. 965 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 3: This the kochk virsion, all your all your adventures songs 966 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 3: you weren't supposed to hear, Yeah, songs you are finally 967 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 3: now a part of you. 968 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: You've seen, you've heard, You've sang a lot of rhyme 969 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: with me. If we want to know how of all 970 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,720 Speaker 1: these tunes, what's your. 971 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 4: Top five? 972 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: Top five in the morning? Your top five? 973 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 3: Top five? 974 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 1: Your top five? A beasinger. 975 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 6: Throwing all me so, yes, yes, sir, we wanna know. 976 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 6: You all want to know the twenty dollars I wanna drove? 977 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,720 Speaker 4: Let me know your. 978 00:54:49,000 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yes, ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen walking down Doc. 979 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 3: Dixon, Yes, sir, your top five? Man, that was the 980 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 3: hell of an intro bro every show every Tuesday, Yeah Man, 981 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 3: Top five R and B singers, Top five bro. 982 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 1: Anita Baker's first introduction in Yeah, she got like it's 983 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: a little cry that she has that justdents so emotionally spiritual. 984 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 1: Just yes, Jesus, I'm going to need a Joe Thomas. 985 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 3: Why Joe Thomas is a hero man. He's one of 986 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 3: the greatest crispy to this day. Incredible. 987 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Mario Brom Come on, Mario Mario mm hmm, 988 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: it's co hero Listen. I just he really sings. 989 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,720 Speaker 2: I just said this on my Live there that Mario 990 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,400 Speaker 2: was the next Generations. Joe one hundred percent agree with that, 991 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 2: and he has an accuracy. Ye, Joe is Joe every 992 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 2: single time. 993 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: Everything. It's crazy. I'm going tank, Yeah, I have to, 994 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 1: brocause let me tell you why. 995 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 2: Bro. 996 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: How what I was saying earlier about the representation that 997 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 1: the church kids phil for us, hearing you that for 998 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 1: a church kid, it was like, wait, I know this, 999 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: It's in different context where I know this. I know 1000 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that was that wasn't 1001 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 1: an important you were an important bridge for my generation 1002 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: of church kids who got into R and B. Like 1003 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 1: hearing slowly that's a church song, bro, Like, of course 1004 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,439 Speaker 1: we knew you know what I mean? Yeah, we knew 1005 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: that already. That's also dance. Although I got into her 1006 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 1: later because I couldn't listen to it when it first 1007 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 1: came out. I'm going, Brandy, your top five R and 1008 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: B songs, that's good. Yeah, let's get interested top five 1009 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: R and B songs. Everybody's expecting me to say Return 1010 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: of the Mac because that's my favorite song in the world. 1011 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: It's just it's just get me off the couch. Son, 1012 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: It's just it's just one of them. You hate it, 1013 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: so off, Okay up here, I found my people. I 1014 00:57:55,600 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 1: found my people. I get so much hate, he can 1015 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: tell you. That's my number one song ever. It's one 1016 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: of the most incredibly stylistic. 1017 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 2: The lyric in itself, you lie to me, you lie 1018 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 2: to me, and the mood is exactly the same. 1019 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 1: Every time. He wanted to be right, Bro. He wanted 1020 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 1: to be right to her. Bro, he wanted to do 1021 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 1: the right thing. He wanted to turn in his player, 1022 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: talk to talk. 1023 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 4: About it. 1024 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: And you lied, lied to him, So now turn Yeah. 1025 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 1: I didn't even want to have to do you like that? 1026 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 1027 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? I do do. 1028 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 2: Man. 1029 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: Hey, the coldest stylistic song. 1030 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 4: I love to. 1031 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: Articulation. I gotta meet bro at some point. 1032 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 2: Hey, Lovers and Friends y'all find everybody find lovers and friends, 1033 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 2: festival finds. Everyone got to five Mark Morrison, then I 1034 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 2: believe I would believe it with your your brand. 1035 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: If y'all find you know what you know, bring them 1036 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 1: out on my set. 1037 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 2: Yes, when we do the R and B money music 1038 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 2: fast we find it what you seen background for, I'll 1039 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 2: do it. 1040 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 4: Please. 1041 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: I wish you on that one. All right, let's see, 1042 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm going back. I'm going to return the mac this 1043 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: R and B soul but uh, no one in the 1044 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 1: world and need a bigger It's that perfect display of 1045 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,439 Speaker 1: of how to emote properly. I listened to that song 1046 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: to learn how to properly convey emotion. I've literally like 1047 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: listened to it and it's the second verse specifically, like 1048 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 1: she those lyrics. I've never I can't name you many 1049 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 1: songs that have a better connection between the lyrics, emotion 1050 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: and like how it's delivered like that's that's one of 1051 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: the records to me, It's so into you. It's also 1052 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: one of my It's I'm a I'm a field person 1053 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: the way that record feels. If I had to you 1054 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 1: be crying, don't you a little bit? A little bit 1055 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: not a whole much like only like when I buy myself. Yeah, 1056 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: I turned, I just turned it real loud, you know 1057 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. But that song that feels like girl 1058 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: asked you on your you had your heart, you know 1059 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. 1060 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 3: And that's what I was listening to I was on 1061 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 3: tour with to me, Oh my god, bro all them 1062 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 3: dates we did every night out there like that song. 1063 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Fit that feels like love to me. If I had 1064 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: to describe, like like love and a song that, it's 1065 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: something so pure about it, pure about her delivery and 1066 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: simple and simple but real crazy what you do super simple. 1067 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: What's crazy about it, though, is then she collaborated with 1068 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 1: fab and it did not lose the emotion of this 1069 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: not lose the emotion the best R and B laugh, 1070 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 1: I can't get the motherfucker word out little. 1071 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 2: That's collaboration of all time, all times. I'm a collaborator. 1072 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 2: Nobody wraps on R and B better than fabulous. I'm 1073 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 2: willing to agree with that. 1074 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Nobody. 1075 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 3: I'm willing to agree with that man. He understands the 1076 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 3: net of it. Drake, My one is fade, listen, and 1077 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 3: that would be a good fade. 1078 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: My one is fade. But fabulous, but fabulous, but we're 1079 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: fab wins. 1080 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 2: Fab Drake can sing on the record strictly rap, strictly raps. Yeah, 1081 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 2: that is crazy to think about, man, Now, Drake ain't 1082 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 2: no slaps now. I think Cole should do more because 1083 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 2: them that them cold them Cole, Miguel Collab. 1084 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 1: I cannot. That is Collab moving right now and not 1085 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: argue with you, my friend. I can. But the only 1086 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 1: reason I give it the fast years is because the 1087 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 1: span of time years true, it's proven, the span of time. 1088 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: He never misses and so into you. In twenty twenty four, 1089 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: it is still as important as it was in ninety eight. Yeah, 1090 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to choose. I'm out a tie for this song. 1091 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 1: The artist s Faith Devans. I'm between come Over as 1092 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 1: soon as I get home. But that bridge on Comeover 1093 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 1: is one of the best bridges I've ever heard in 1094 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: R and B. I'm gonna go with so as soon 1095 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 1: as I get home, any either of them, that Faith 1096 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: has to be. That's my personal out of those two. 1097 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 2: At home, it's just Mark Morrison Anita to me, Faith, 1098 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 2: you got a five my fifth? 1099 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: How could you? Mario? 1100 01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 2: That's a record and he's singing and the bridge, all 1101 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 2: the elements of the R and B. 1102 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 1: I didn't even know. Oh my god, bro, you sing 1103 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 1: somebody thinking about a ghetto common him. 1104 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 2: The only that that song when people when we talk 1105 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 2: about the elements of R and B, and then if 1106 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 2: you try to use a modern artist, it makes sense 1107 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 2: that song has all of the elements that it has, 1108 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 2: the feel, it has, the it has the production that 1109 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 2: the correct chord changes the bridge. 1110 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 3: He's really singing like Lawless record. It's like, man, thank 1111 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 3: you Lawless. Yeah, shout out to my guysds. 1112 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 1: We did that record. I'm an underdog, stand. 1113 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 2: I feel like my sole purpose in R and B 1114 01:03:53,680 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 2: is to convince everybody that the underdogs created, like all 1115 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 2: all of my favorite records again goes back to me 1116 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 2: first kind of getting hip to Dawkins and Dawkins, so 1117 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 2: like that's it's like a lineage there and like a 1118 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 2: bunch of consistency all of like a huge majority of 1119 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 2: my favorite records are all underdog records. 1120 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 4: Her jeans and. 1121 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 1: I like your style. I like what's going. 1122 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 4: What we got. 1123 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 1: I feel like we got a cold chick a moment. 1124 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Come on. Taking back to Jordan Down, I ain't saying 1125 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 1: no Nicks. I ain't saying no name. Hey, I ain't 1126 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:51,120 Speaker 1: saying no names, saying what you don't say. She, I 1127 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 1: ain't saying no name. 1128 01:04:58,680 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 2: Y. 1129 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, man, that was I'm sick of Oh 1130 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 1: my god. That's good. We know that he's not coming 1131 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 1: back to play for us next week. He just hit 1132 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 1: the last This might need a raise, you might need alo. 1133 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 1: That's good. That's good in church, man. 1134 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 2: All right, So you know this segment, man, it's a 1135 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 2: very important segment of the show. It's called I Ain't 1136 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 2: saying no names? Will you tell us a story funny 1137 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 2: or fucked up? Funny and fucked up? And the travels 1138 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 2: of Kenya and Dixon. 1139 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, the Coach of Crypt, the Coach of Crip, 1140 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 1: my god, the Lucky Man himself. You know what I mean? 1141 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 2: Because you know, we need to make sure that we 1142 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 2: put that in it. We put that in the atmosphere. Man, 1143 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 2: if you win this Grammy that's coming. 1144 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Up, get that. Let's get that for you. 1145 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry because I don't. I got to actually relook 1146 01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 2: and see the rest of the people. 1147 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 1: That's in it. But I'm yeah, I'm voting for you 1148 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 1: because I am a voter. I appreciate you man, you 1149 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: know I want you to win. I appreciate it. But yeah, man, 1150 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,160 Speaker 1: we need we need a story. Man, I ain't saying 1151 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 1: no name stories. I got it some good. I know 1152 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 1: you do. I know you do because you know you've 1153 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 1: been there. I'll tell you one. This is more so 1154 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: like I like this story because there's a lesson in it. 1155 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 1: There's a lesson in artists and songwriters needing to know 1156 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 1: their business and what they're into. So my first you know, 1157 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 1: I had signed my first pub deal. I was young, 1158 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Now, I would know, don't 1159 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,520 Speaker 1: sign this until you have already had records that would 1160 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, increase your leverage and negotiating. But you're young. 1161 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 1: The money looks like it's more than I ever had, 1162 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 1: so you know what I mean, So sign a pub deal. 1163 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 1: I had an M D R C deal because they 1164 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 1: don't exist anymore. My deal with percentages, So it's been 1165 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 1: everybody watching. Yeah, it's been mentioned on this show, so 1166 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 1: you know, like it was based on percentages. It was 1167 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 1: like two point five but a half songs, well two 1168 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty percent as a co writer. If I'm 1169 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 1: walking in sessions though, and I'm only getting something out 1170 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 1: of fifty percent of the composition. 1171 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 2: That's ten songs, that's twenty songs, that's that's it would 1172 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 2: have songs whatever. 1173 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you know how you do it a 1174 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: long time, our com a very long time. So I 1175 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 1: was like, I was in a deal, and I was 1176 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 1: actually like turned off by collaborating early on because my 1177 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 1: mind was thinking, you're never about to get two hundred 1178 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 1: and fifty percent, especially like exactly you know, when you 1179 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 1: do sessions, like when you're just starting with like you know, 1180 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,439 Speaker 1: publishers they put you in sessions. It's like five five 1181 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 1: other people. So some sitting in the session like, man, 1182 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk out of here with three percent, and 1183 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: I got to get to two hundred and fifty. That 1184 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 1: is a lot of songs. And even like as a 1185 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 1: as a writer like young coming up in the game 1186 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,720 Speaker 1: at the time, even if you land a big record, 1187 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: you're not about to get the whole fifty percent of 1188 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,519 Speaker 1: what you know, what you what you wrote. So I'm like, okay, 1189 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 1: So all of my money, I mean, all of my 1190 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 1: fulfillment of the contract was based on a project I 1191 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,640 Speaker 1: had written on and I had written a bunch of 1192 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,680 Speaker 1: songs and I'm like, I'm counting. I'm like, yeah, we're 1193 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 1: finna get out of here, going to get to this 1194 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,559 Speaker 1: next it's actually gonna roll me over into the next option. 1195 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 1: And then because only had one option in this contract, 1196 01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna be good. 1197 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 2: Niggas be doing publishing numbers like niggas be doing prison center. 1198 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 1: On this one charge. So they're gonna let me out, 1199 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean for good behavior? Yo, that's 1200 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 1: I got times. 1201 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,800 Speaker 2: That's essentially what happened. It's just what, Oh my god, 1202 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 2: this is jail talk, bro, if a show felt like jail. 1203 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,799 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm like, okay, cool, I'm counting. I'm 1204 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: literally like looking in my at my splits every other 1205 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,759 Speaker 1: day to make sure that the numbers that I'm calculating 1206 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 1: are real. I'm like, okay, so this's thirteen, it's twenty five. 1207 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm like that add up, we got we crossed two 1208 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:17,639 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty percent. I'm sure. 1209 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 2: Finally time turning the records. The artist went independent in 1210 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 2: the middle of that process. Oh no, So little did 1211 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,559 Speaker 2: I know in my contract independent doesn't count. 1212 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Be a major release. I had to be a major release. 1213 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 1: The independent didn't count. So here I am with like 1214 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,680 Speaker 1: with like seven eight raand all of it, all of it, 1215 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, no, none of this counts. Go 1216 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 1: back to yourself. Literally That's what I felt like, Bro. 1217 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 2: So that I just remember, like, bro, that had like 1218 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 2: turned me off from music because I'm just like, I'm 1219 01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,120 Speaker 2: never getting out of this publishing deal because you you know, 1220 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 2: like when you're in and especially like when you're young 1221 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,879 Speaker 2: like that, you think the only way out. 1222 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 1: Is if they let you out based on you fulfilling everything. 1223 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking there's no loopholes or like. So I 1224 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 1: just remember like feeling defeated. I'm like, I'm never writing 1225 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 1: another song, doing another session, like you know what I mean. 1226 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:22,560 Speaker 1: And it just so happened that the publishing situation just 1227 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,640 Speaker 1: kind of like resolved itself, and luckily I was just 1228 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 1: able to get out of the deal with no real 1229 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 1: like no real consequences. I was able to just kind 1230 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 1: of get out. I had to let go in order 1231 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 1: to get out, I gave up a lot of publishing 1232 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 1: on songs that I had already written. That's how bad 1233 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to get out of the deal. However, I 1234 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 1: was smart. I read my statements. I knew, you've made 1235 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,680 Speaker 1: all the money you gonna make already. You've made all 1236 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 1: the money you're gonna make already. I knew what songs. Yeah, 1237 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 1: that made sense to give up. But that for me, man, 1238 01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 1: that felt like the end of the world. And then 1239 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,720 Speaker 1: the money had been going like yeah, that advance I'm 1240 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 1: talking about. As soon as I got it, I went. 1241 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 1: First thing I did I get I went to the 1242 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 1: Beverly Center. Bro brought some Gucci shoes. You gotta go, 1243 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 1: And I was young, you know what I mean. It 1244 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 1: was I first yo, I was about center. I was like, 1245 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,960 Speaker 1: you got to go about it. Five thousand cash, I 1246 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,800 Speaker 1: mean with with the with the bank envelope, like you 1247 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 1: want to envelope? 1248 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:25,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to. 1249 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:26,559 Speaker 1: I want to envelope take with me. 1250 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 2: Too, Bro. 1251 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 1: I spent forty dollars on something. I was like, I 1252 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: was like twenty one. I was like twenty one, twenty two. 1253 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 1: I was super young. 1254 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,560 Speaker 2: So that that money, that money was called you know 1255 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 2: what I mean, like it was It wasn't a lot 1256 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:47,160 Speaker 2: like so I uh, just thinking like about the reality 1257 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:48,760 Speaker 2: of being stuck in this deal and if I go 1258 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 2: make some money. 1259 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 1: Basically y'all still get to take it. I gotta live 1260 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 1: off of you know what I mean, what y'all gave 1261 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,479 Speaker 1: me that's been gone, like it ain't there no more. 1262 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: Thank God for touring, because then that's the money I 1263 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 1: can make that y'all don't touch. So it's like, I just, yeah, 1264 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,960 Speaker 1: it put me in a weird position, man, and it 1265 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,160 Speaker 1: turned me off for a long time, and it took 1266 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:13,639 Speaker 1: me a minute to start collaborating, especially because thinking about 1267 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: having to get to that two hundred and fifty percent 1268 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: made me be like, man, I'm just gonna write everything 1269 01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,920 Speaker 1: by myself because I don't want to have to, you know, 1270 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 1: go through that. So yeah, that was a testament to 1271 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,160 Speaker 1: like it was. It was weird because when I talked 1272 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,200 Speaker 1: about it after, had a whole bunch of people around 1273 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 1: me like, oh, everybody knows not why y'all niggas don't 1274 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 1: tell me this, Why y'all let me just sign you 1275 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So I talk about it because 1276 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:46,240 Speaker 1: I want to inform other writers and the artists coming up, like, YO, 1277 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,800 Speaker 1: know what you're getting into before you should start signing. 1278 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 2: But I think the other thing that the artists and 1279 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:56,560 Speaker 2: writers should be mindful of too, is that there's this 1280 01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 2: thing car renegotiation, you know what I mean? Ye yea yeah, 1281 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,800 Speaker 2: And and I wish someone would would have would have 1282 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 2: been able to have that conversation with you before you 1283 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,240 Speaker 2: got into the mindset of I'm so turned off by 1284 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 2: this and I don't because the. 1285 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,120 Speaker 1: Truth of the matter is that the work will get 1286 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 1: you out. Yep, you know what I mean. 1287 01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,840 Speaker 2: It may not be that the work for doing those songs, 1288 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:21,160 Speaker 2: that that many and that, but if you get the record, yeah, 1289 01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 2: that shifts everything, you know what I mean. And you 1290 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,920 Speaker 2: know we spoke about justin Timberlake earlier. Justin Timberlake was 1291 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:34,440 Speaker 2: the shift for me. Me writing Celebrity for InSync completely 1292 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 2: obliterated my whole deal. Like it was, it was a rap, like, oh, 1293 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,840 Speaker 2: y'all think I'm gonna show up for what y'all gave 1294 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 2: me for before I had celebrity, y'all shure rabbit ass mine. 1295 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:49,760 Speaker 1: I need it. I need it. 1296 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 2: So either y'all gonna give me this crazy amount I won't, 1297 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 2: or y'all gonna let me walk, or we're. 1298 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 1: Gonna figure something out. 1299 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 2: But it's you know, it's the success and it is 1300 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,759 Speaker 2: but changes these deals, like people try to people try 1301 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:13,920 Speaker 2: to fix their situations without having success. Right, most people 1302 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 2: complain about the you know, the bad deal or the 1303 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:24,439 Speaker 2: bad person when they don't have more success. I don't 1304 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 2: give a fuck about who or what I dealt with 1305 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 2: early on in my career. Mm hm, that shit was 1306 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,679 Speaker 2: par for the course for me. That's just me personally, 1307 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And some people are like, oh, 1308 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,280 Speaker 2: every deal ain't gonna be It's not going to be fair, 1309 01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 2: especially to. 1310 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 1: The party that has no success yet. It's going to 1311 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 1: be lopsided. 1312 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,720 Speaker 2: Your first deal is going to be like, why would 1313 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:56,639 Speaker 2: I give you more when I have to invest? You're 1314 01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 2: not going to run to the bank and say, yeah, 1315 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 2: so I won't buy this house, right, I think you 1316 01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,759 Speaker 2: should give me this long. 1317 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,840 Speaker 1: And I shouldn't have to pay none of it back. 1318 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 1: Why do you sound crazy? It's not our business works. 1319 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,080 Speaker 1: We gotta start. 1320 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,559 Speaker 2: We gotta really start understanding and preaching business to people. 1321 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,720 Speaker 2: I guess, okay, you should know what you're signing one 1322 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:30,120 Speaker 2: so that you can be at one with what that 1323 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,680 Speaker 2: deal says, because you maybe you need that opportunity, and 1324 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 2: if you don't need that opportunity, you don't have to 1325 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,840 Speaker 2: sign it. But stop saying what somebody made you sign 1326 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 2: unless they actually physically you know what I mean, if 1327 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 2: you signed it up on your own free will and 1328 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,840 Speaker 2: you were grown up, I want to hear that shit man, 1329 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,800 Speaker 2: not me, And it ain't Nobody can say I signed 1330 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 2: them to a bad deal because I haven't done no 1331 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,160 Speaker 2: bad deals with no people, you know what I mean. 1332 01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 2: But I'm saying for people who have done deals they 1333 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 2: consider to be bad. Hey, man, if you signed under 1334 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 2: your free will, you got to deal with the consequences 1335 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 2: of that deal. There's some ship that I was signed 1336 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 2: to that I was signed to for years. 1337 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 1: I had to work my way out of it. 1338 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 5: Bro. 1339 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 1: I took a lot of money, you know what I'm saying. 1340 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:20,560 Speaker 1: I needed that money. Was a signist. I mean, I 1341 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,680 Speaker 1: was signis some good ship. But it was just. 1342 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 3: None of the ship was honored. That's a whole other conversation. 1343 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,000 Speaker 3: It just wasn't honest by But. 1344 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to get you facts. 1345 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 4: Man. 1346 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,360 Speaker 1: It took, and it only took. See for me, that 1347 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:46,200 Speaker 1: was my that was my first like just introduced to 1348 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 1: the game and introduced to a contract. So it was like, 1349 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 1: and what's crazy is the lawyer, you know, you gotta 1350 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,759 Speaker 1: be careful who you have do these deals because sometimes 1351 01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: they know who they're negotiating for it. And like this 1352 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:04,920 Speaker 1: went back. Yeah, friends say yeah, So like for me, 1353 01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 1: it was like to the lawyer, you know, it probably 1354 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't that wasn't a big deal. He probably does like 1355 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 1: fifteen of these every day where he's just like, yep, 1356 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,320 Speaker 1: let's go another one. So like, I'm grateful for the 1357 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:23,599 Speaker 1: lessons I learned from it, because now I won't sign 1358 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 1: anything without understanding what I'm signing. So that's what that's 1359 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,439 Speaker 1: the that's the positive in it. If it made me 1360 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,639 Speaker 1: learn everything I could every term. If I don't understand, 1361 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking it up, I'm asking questions. I want to 1362 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 1: know what this is. What does this mean? 1363 01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 2: Like information is available to you, Yep, that's the that's 1364 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 2: the key right there. The information is available to you, 1365 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 2: right And but what sometimes isn't available to you. It's 1366 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:56,200 Speaker 2: how you're gonna pay your rent. Sometimes you have to. 1367 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 2: That is a trade off. I did not want to 1368 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,160 Speaker 2: have to move back home. Yeah, I don't want to 1369 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,639 Speaker 2: have to move back home. Actually I wanted an actual 1370 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:07,360 Speaker 2: bed at the time. 1371 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:07,800 Speaker 4: Have no bed. 1372 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 2: I'll sleep on the floor, you know what I'm saying. 1373 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 2: So I'm like, ship, I gotta do this deal, man. Yeah, 1374 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 2: we'll see how it works. 1375 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:17,840 Speaker 1: That's a very real part of it. 1376 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 3: It's a very real part of this business, bro. So 1377 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 3: it takes the stories man like that, Like nobody doesn't. 1378 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,760 Speaker 3: Nobody's really in this ship. Don't have a story like that. 1379 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 3: You have to because this ship takes all this part 1380 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,360 Speaker 3: of it. Yeah, it takes all you got. 1381 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad you didn't stop. 1382 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:37,920 Speaker 3: Bro. 1383 01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,680 Speaker 1: We need you in this ship absolutely. You know what 1384 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 1385 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,559 Speaker 4: Like you you are a. 1386 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,599 Speaker 1: Needed needed voice pin the R and B. We love 1387 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 1: the R and B. We love man, appreciate your career. 1388 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,240 Speaker 1: That's good ship. 1389 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 4: I love that you love. 1390 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 1: I need a T shirt. I got the merch crack 1391 01:18:59,600 --> 01:18:59,760 Speaker 1: for you. 1392 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:05,000 Speaker 3: Come on, give me easy, ladies, ladies and gentlemen. My 1393 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,240 Speaker 3: name is Tank Valentine. This is the R and B 1394 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 3: Money Podcast, the authority Yes on all things R and B, 1395 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,600 Speaker 3: especially the R and B. 1396 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:22,280 Speaker 1: You love talk about it. You're gonna be doing this 1397 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:23,479 Speaker 1: for a long time, my brother. 1398 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 3: You have in no way people. You are going special places, man. 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