WEBVTT - Buck Brief - Trump Indictment Part 4

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, let make

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<v Speaker 1>or wherever you get your podcasts. So they've indicted Trump

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<v Speaker 1>for a fourth time. What do we do about this?

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<v Speaker 1>What can the American people do? I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that needs more of our attention because with the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth indictment, we all know now in Atlanta, the Rico

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<v Speaker 1>racketeering forty some odd count indictment, including eighteen other people

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<v Speaker 1>who are not Donald Trump, Vi Giuliani, Mark Meadows. With

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<v Speaker 1>that reality, with that having happened, I think it should

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<v Speaker 1>be clear to everybody that the system has been completely

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<v Speaker 1>turned as a weapon against Donald Trump and politics. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>I am actually somebody who will say that in some

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<v Speaker 1>of this, on some of these issues, Trump has made

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<v Speaker 1>it easier for them than he should have. Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>not shown impeccable judgment on all of these matters.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't care. That's what I think has to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be said with all this, because they're doing something now.

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<v Speaker 1>They're showing us that there is this two tiered system

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<v Speaker 1>of justice. They're showing us that the Democrats Hillary Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Bill Clinton.

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<v Speaker 2>Good on the list.

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<v Speaker 1>They get away with things, they get away with breaking

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<v Speaker 1>the law, and the top of their political apparatus is

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<v Speaker 1>effectively above the law, and they're going to tell us, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is not. And to that I just sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and say I don't accept this, that they get

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<v Speaker 1>to have it their way and that the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 1>just sits there and takes it. But I also don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what exactly the bestest pathway forward is here. And

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to get very emotional over this. There's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a lot of anger out there because

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<v Speaker 1>for one thing, these trials. I just saw Dershowitz said

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<v Speaker 1>all four trials are going to happen for the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four election. That's what I've been saying all along.

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<v Speaker 1>All four of them are going to happen before the election.

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<v Speaker 1>All this Oh, they're going to be delayed. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be delayed. I think this is for some people

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<v Speaker 1>turning into a coping mechanism. They're not going to be delayed.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to be delayed. The judges, the prosecutors,

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<v Speaker 1>they are lined up, they're going maybe one of them

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<v Speaker 1>will get delayed. But how many of these criminal cases

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<v Speaker 1>do you think have to happen before we recognize there's

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<v Speaker 1>real jeopardy here for Trump and that the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four election is already tainted, which is the point of this.

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<v Speaker 1>We also can see and understand that I think very clearly, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Dershwitz is saying all four of them are going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think all four of them are like that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly two or three of them are going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>before the election. And I'm also hearing something out there

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this is kind of a tough love session for

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<v Speaker 1>the right. Oh, don't worry Trump is going to get

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<v Speaker 1>bailed out by the Supreme Court, or don't worry Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is just going to pardon himself from all of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take these separately for a second. Shall we.

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<v Speaker 1>To say, don't worry about it. Trump's gonna get pardoned

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<v Speaker 1>by I'm sorry, Trump is going to get exonerated by

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court. That I think is just not rooted

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<v Speaker 1>in reality. I mean, it could theoretically happen, but on

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<v Speaker 1>what basis The Supreme Court doesn't say, yeah, they brought charges,

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<v Speaker 1>the jury heard it, the jury believed it, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to come in now and declare that that is.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't like that jury verdict, especially state charges.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what's going to happen unless there's some

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<v Speaker 1>constitutional question that must be answered, unless there's some violation

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<v Speaker 1>enough constitutional rights and a jury thinking that someone committed

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<v Speaker 1>a crime that is a valid statutory crime. Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're going to take that up again

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<v Speaker 1>on what basis on the basis that Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>running for office. Should they yet, Should this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>be completely diverted? Absolutely, you know, should we not be

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<v Speaker 1>going through this as a country. Totally agree with all that,

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<v Speaker 1>But I would remind everybody that some of the really

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<v Speaker 1>the same voices that we're telling us all that Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be able to get away from all

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<v Speaker 1>this legal ambush. Same people who are saying in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty election, Oh, don't worry, they're going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>these legal charge, legal challenges, and judges are going to

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<v Speaker 1>find for Trump, Trump actually won in Arizona. The judge

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<v Speaker 1>will find Trump actually one. In Pennsylvania, the judge will find. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you can believe, and we can believe, and we can

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<v Speaker 1>make the case about whatever we want in those states

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<v Speaker 1>and what happened in twenty twenty. It is still technically

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<v Speaker 1>a free country. I think you're allowed to believe things.

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<v Speaker 1>But a judge was never going to do that. Judge

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to do it wasn't going to happen because

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<v Speaker 1>of all the factors involved. And I think that when

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<v Speaker 1>we're at our where at the point where we understand

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<v Speaker 1>how much the prosecution has been weaponized as a tool

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<v Speaker 1>of politics, why do we think that judges haven't been Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, we've got six reasonable, We've got basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Three or four.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent Supreme Court justices, and then we got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>that are okay, and then we got three who are

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<v Speaker 1>basically insane. So you would think that you could rely

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<v Speaker 1>on that to be some kind of a stopgap against

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<v Speaker 1>the craziness. But I don't see that happening. It's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not with a timeliness. I mean, think about this, Are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to do this in all of these cases?

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court just gonna say, uh, you know, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>what You're not allowed to charge Donald Trump with these crimes?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the violation of his rights that would have occurred?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the constitutional violation that will have occurred? Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's all crap. But I'm just trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>ready for I've been the one who's been saying now

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, over a year, he's going to get indicted.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was coming. I didn't know it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go they're going to do all four. But once

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<v Speaker 1>the Brag indictment happened in New York is I'd see

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<v Speaker 1>that's the purpose of that indictment was to pave the

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<v Speaker 1>way for all the others, because he knows there's no Brag,

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<v Speaker 1>knows there's no consequences for that abuse of his power

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. In fact, he's just gonna benefit from it,

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<v Speaker 1>even if he loses, which I think he probably will,

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<v Speaker 1>to bookkeeping error. It is a bookkeeping error. That is

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<v Speaker 1>that they're charging thirty times for the same error. It

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<v Speaker 1>is completely insane, but it's criminal charge against a presidential

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<v Speaker 1>candidate and former president. So once that's happened, now people

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<v Speaker 1>start to say, you know what I'm getting at here

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<v Speaker 1>is the overtin window. The framework for what is acceptable

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<v Speaker 1>for us to talk about or what we can think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to happen. That is shifting all the time here.

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<v Speaker 1>And as it shifts, I think the voices who are

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<v Speaker 1>saying no, no, no, don't worry, don't worry. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to go all the way. They're not serious about this.

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<v Speaker 2>They are.

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<v Speaker 1>They are going to go all the way. They are

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<v Speaker 1>serious about this. This isn't a game to them. They

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<v Speaker 1>are seeking the destruction of Donald Trump and with it,

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<v Speaker 1>a victory in twenty twenty four and four more years.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a Biden regime.

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<v Speaker 1>Notice, I've also been very consistent on it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be Joe Biden and a lot of people, you know, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're out there and they get a lot of attention. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be some other Democrat or something. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not unless Joe Biden has a stroke or has some

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<v Speaker 1>health issue.

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<v Speaker 2>That's real.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just going to run him again because he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>run against Trump. And what is the campaign. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>even talk about policy anymore. We we're not even having

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation about what the policy differences would be between

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<v Speaker 1>any of the Republican candidates and between the Democrats and

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans at the national level. No, no one's sitting

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<v Speaker 1>here saying what is the big difference that's being discussed

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<v Speaker 1>these days between a Trump and Biden presidency. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying there wouldn't be big differences, but it's not focused

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<v Speaker 1>on policy. It's all about the prosecutions, all about the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty election in January sixth, and the criminal trials

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<v Speaker 1>and now Hunter Biden, the reality of the Biden crime family.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is it's just this this food fight going on.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the plan for healthcare for Republicans?

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<v Speaker 1>I ask you this honestly, you know, speaking to speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to the family here for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>What is there? What is the Trump healthcare plan? What

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<v Speaker 2>is and don't tell me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, if you go on someone's website, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>go on if you go on Vivaq's website or Nicki

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<v Speaker 1>Hanley's website, they have their health care policy. No, no, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're not if we don't know about it, if the base,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Republican Party is not talking about it, does

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<v Speaker 1>it even matter? Because how can we have the marketplace

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<v Speaker 1>of ideas functioning without the ideas? No, it's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>turned into these warring political mechanisms. And unfortunately Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>more unified, they play dirtier, they're more ruthless.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Good about how it's gonna turn out for our side

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<v Speaker 1>on the current trajectory of what's going on here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's these days increasingly just the say you

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<v Speaker 1>just tell people in this in the business of commentary

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<v Speaker 1>or being you know, a writer, a radio guy, a

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<v Speaker 1>TV guy, whatever, you're supposed to just tell people the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest thing for them to hear. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that because I want us to win. And the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that people get upset it's amazing to me, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people have gotten upset at me for saying

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<v Speaker 1>things that were meant to get us ready for what

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<v Speaker 1>was coming, and then I was right, And then they

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. They don't say, wow, I'm sorry that I

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<v Speaker 1>got so angry at you for talking about the indictments

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<v Speaker 1>before they happened, because they were obviously going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>at least obviously in your mind. No, that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I get told, you know, oh, you're so defeated. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not defeatist. I want us to win. And if the

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<v Speaker 1>plan is relying on the Supreme Court. And now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>even seeing people, people are are all over the place

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<v Speaker 1>now on the internet. They're saying, oh, well, maybe Trump

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<v Speaker 1>could pardon himself from the state charges in Georgia too.

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<v Speaker 1>What So the plan is Trump gets through all these

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<v Speaker 1>criminal trials that are likely to happen before the election,

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<v Speaker 1>None of that damages in politically, none of that slows

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<v Speaker 1>down his campaign in away the chain anything, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he wins and then pardons himself from everything. Where has

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<v Speaker 1>the DJ people keep saying, oh, the DJ will just

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<v Speaker 1>drop charges if he wins. Yeah, bomb him and probably

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<v Speaker 1>pardon myself, probably make sure that everything was taken off

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<v Speaker 1>the table.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we've.

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<v Speaker 1>Never even let's say that that idea, that theory is correct,

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<v Speaker 1>that he could parton himself from state charges. Well, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, that would mean that the president could could

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<v Speaker 1>truly and literally murder somebody and you couldn't bring a

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<v Speaker 1>state charge against that person.

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<v Speaker 2>You So, how does that work?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, then the other Congress will remove and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really that's the system we have now. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, you're you're truly above a lat It's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing to be the head of the federal government. To

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<v Speaker 1>say the federal government can't prosecute the head of the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government, that's part of the constitutional argument that's being

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<v Speaker 1>made or has been made about this in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very different thing to say you can't be prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 2>For any reason for the president.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that that's that's interesting, that that would be, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be a new one. I I haven't heard that

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<v Speaker 1>argument before. I'm seeing people making that argument. And I again,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's correct, that's that's the best we've got.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens if Trump loses?

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<v Speaker 1>Does I dinyt want to think about that. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>to prison for a long time. So, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I just want everyone to be honest about what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening here. And I think there's still a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the right is falling into this, uh at some some.

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<v Speaker 2>People, not everybody, not not you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm seeing it this denial, denihalism of what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've gone all in, all in against Trump on this.

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<v Speaker 1>do we people are gonna ask me this, They asked

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<v Speaker 1>me all the time. I ask you, I'm still trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of how we figure this out, what we

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<v Speaker 1>do about it. Fourth indictment, So we're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>and I agree with Rshchwitz who says there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be all these trials, probably before the election. So we've heard, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry, they're all going to get delayed. Oh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be all these motions. It's going to delay everything,

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<v Speaker 1>so it'll be after the election. I think that's wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think if we're relying on that, we're probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to be very disappointed about the outcome. Oh don't worry,

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court will step in.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, that's what we're hoping for here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is what we're effectively gambling the presidency

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<v Speaker 1>on this. That's what's going on right now. If we're wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>if the base is wrong, if the Republican Party gets

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<v Speaker 1>this calculation incorrect, then you've got former years of Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>You will have eight years of a Biden administration. So

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<v Speaker 1>the stakes are obviously very high. I mean, Trump does

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<v Speaker 1>have a superhuman ability to push through everything that the

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<v Speaker 1>enemy throws at him and doesn't even really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even see. It doesn't seem like it even

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<v Speaker 1>bothers him, which I for indictments, he could if he

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<v Speaker 1>were to be convicted of all of these and get

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<v Speaker 1>the maximum. I know he won't, but it's just an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting theoretical point, kind of a sobering theoretical point. He

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<v Speaker 1>could go to prison for over one hundred years, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's absurd, but just goes to show you

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<v Speaker 1>how much the mass, the volume, the size of what

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<v Speaker 1>they're throwing at him really is. So then I just

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that we have the plan

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<v Speaker 1>in place. I guess it's the best legal team possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump showing the discipline necessary to keep from being put

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<v Speaker 1>in prison by a judge in pre trial because of violating, say,

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<v Speaker 1>the courts orders. I think the DC judge, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>would easily put Trump in pre trial confinement or keep

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<v Speaker 1>him in prison for a period of time while he

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to be tried. I think that's very possible. So

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<v Speaker 1>he can't just say whatever he wants out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm sitting here trying to come up with how

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<v Speaker 1>this all has a happy ending, And the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I guess I can think of is Trump gets

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<v Speaker 1>four four acquittals, goes on to win, and then is

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<v Speaker 1>able to have a presidency, where I would assume at

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<v Speaker 1>that point the men would truly just go scorched earth

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<v Speaker 1>Shakespearean drama, you know, finally before the end in his

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<v Speaker 1>last four years or as president his second term, he

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<v Speaker 1>Biden's gonna get held to account. No chance in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>no chance. The special counsel is gonna sit on this

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<v Speaker 1>run out the clock. Nothing's going to happen to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Special counsel was just for the optics. Actually, it allows

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<v Speaker 1>them to re establish control of the narrative. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you think, oh, Biden, oh that's all gonna fall, No

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<v Speaker 1>it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a plan, folks, and we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it right now, because when you're in a state,

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<v Speaker 1>as a country, when you're in a situation where your

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<v Speaker 1>chief political rival is getting prosecuted, or rather they're prosecuting

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<v Speaker 1>our guy, what do you think is next after that?

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<v Speaker 1>And they're already going for his lawyers, the people around him,

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<v Speaker 1>people involved the cutting.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, people who supported the president.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, all of a sudden, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like some of us in conservative DYA maybe

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<v Speaker 1>getting some audits.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, under the first year of.

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<v Speaker 1>The new Biden term, if that happens, If that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will not hopefully be in that position, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe maybe Trump is able to pull off

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<v Speaker 1>just the greatest political show on earth here of all

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<v Speaker 1>time and run the gamut and just do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's really just relying on him as a superhuman force

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<v Speaker 1>of nature. In politics because what they have thrown against

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<v Speaker 1>him right now for indictments. Ah, I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how anybody can see this and not

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that the other side's playing for keeps. So pray

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<v Speaker 1>for Trump that he can get through this and figure

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<v Speaker 1>it all out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll continue to think about what the what the

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<v Speaker 2>ways are here of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, I don't know. Maybe they're Republicans in the House

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<v Speaker 1>could do something a little pressure on the situation here

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<v Speaker 1>that might be helpful. You know, they're in charge if

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be. We'll keep thinking. Talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>again soon, Shield Hime