1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: You're listening to you an Airwave Media podcast. Hello delicious friends, 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: and welcome to Who Died What Now? The history podcast 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: That's not Your History Class with me your host Katie Charlwood, 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: History Harlotte and reader of books. Speaking of books, I 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: was looking at some of the cover walk ups that 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: the publisher sent me and this is such a weird 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: it's such a weird place to be, like to be 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: at this point. But yeah, it's really exciting and I 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: really love some of the ideas. We're just sort of 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: bouncing things back and forth right now and lots of 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: tweaking and they can completely change. But it's so it's 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: so interesting to be in this part of the process 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: because it's nice, you know, because I get to do 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: all the writing stuff, but to get sort of on 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: the same side as artistic contribution, which is mainly me 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: going I like this, but I don't like that, and 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: this color is fine, but I like is better, and 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's really exciting. If you are listening 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: to this on day of release, I am in Dublin. 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm in Dublin. I am chatting with as May Louise James. 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: We are doing an in conversation with Hodges and Figures. 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: If I post some stuff on the socials, yeay, hopefully 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: I will have remembered to do that and will not 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: have forgotten. Huzza, everybody, hussa. So yeah, that's my plan. 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: I hope everything is okay, but yeah, that's my plan 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: for that. So how is everybody? Is everybody excited? I am? 27 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: I am? I am. I have spent too much money 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: this month, so much money because the kids go back 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: to school and I've forgot how much everything costs. It's 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: so expensive. So if anybody feels like donating to my 31 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: smutty little dress fund so Cold because I think it's funny, 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: feel free to do so. I will greatly appreciate it. 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, quit 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: your gibbel jabbel in fact me, in fact you, I will. 35 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: But first we've got to get our source on l 36 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: sources are intrigue and treason. The Tutor Court by David Loads, 37 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: Bloody Mary by Carole Ericsson, The Sisters who would be 38 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: Queen Mary, Catherine and Lady Jane Gray A Turer Tragedy 39 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: by Leander Delisle. Lady Jane Gray by Hester Chapman, the 40 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: Anne berleyn Files, and of course our old favorites History 41 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: dot com and biography dot com. I use it in 42 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: comfortably good. Then let's begin. So where are we last 43 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: left off was the tragic, tragic end of Lady Katherine Gray. 44 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: So you all know I wanted to talk about the 45 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Gray sists, and it was originally going to be like 46 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: a Patreon situation, but with my Lady Jane being canceled 47 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: on Prime because apparently Apple is the only place to 48 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: go now if you want to have at least like 49 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: a full season or two happen. Yeah, unless you're making 50 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: Emily in Paris, which honestly don't know the names of 51 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: any of the characters apart from Sophie. I know Sophie 52 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: because she is amazing and I love her, but I 53 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: know nothing else. Don't know what happened in the plot 54 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: last year. Will I watch one hundred other seasons of 55 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: it because it's pure escapism and means nothing as fucking Lily. 56 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, where we left off are gonna give you 57 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: some cliff notes, I guess to where we are right now. 58 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: So Henry the eighth, he's married to Catherine part at 59 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: this point, it is fifteen forty five ish and Lady 60 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Mary Gray. She is the third of the Gray sistels, 61 00:03:54,160 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: born to Francis Brandon, Mary Tutor's daughter, and Henry Gray. 62 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: I keep wanting to call him Arthur for some reason, 63 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: and I don't know why. But yet she's the youngest. 64 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: So Jane is eight years older than her, and then 65 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Catherine is five years older than her, So like, that's 66 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: a pretty large age gap. I think a lot of 67 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: it is from them trying, I would assume to pro 68 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: create more, but pregnancy in Tudor era is not great. 69 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: They had this whole like shutting end situation which is 70 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: really not healthy. And as we know, the number one 71 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: cause of death for women is men, but the number 72 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: two cause of death for women is childbirth. So also yes, 73 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: So when Mary is born, he's married to Catherine Parr. 74 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: And you know, luckily, you know she's already got an 75 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: older sister call so called Katherine, so she's not called that. 76 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: She's probably named after her grandmother as a mark of 77 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: respect or the person who they think is going to 78 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: be the next female like closest to the throne. So 79 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: Henry he's married Catherine Parr. Two years later he dies, 80 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: we shame off. He goes. Now Edward, Edward the sex Edward, 81 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: he the boy king, ascends the throne. Edward is the 82 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: only child and only legitimate male heir, with his wife 83 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: Jane Seymour, the only queen he loved enough, mainly because 84 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: she didn't live long enough to you know, cause him 85 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: any problems. Effectively, she didn't have time to piss him off. 86 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: So yeah, he has her immortalized in his mind. And 87 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: Edward is the only legitimate male heir, and so he's 88 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: the next person to the throne. Now, the way the 89 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: line of succession worked is he had written Mary, who 90 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: was Katherine of Arragon's daughter, and Elizabeth, who is Anne 91 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: Boleyn's daughter, back into the line of succession, so he's 92 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: got them in it. He had written out Margaret Tudor, 93 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: his other sister. He'd written out her line because they 94 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: went to Scotland and he was like no, and so 95 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: he's like, none of them, thank you, completely buggered that out. Mary. However, 96 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: Mary's line He's like, yes, fabulous, wonderful. They are involved. 97 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: So super so Edward as he was just an arsel, 98 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: but he was brought up with terrible advisors who had 99 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: their own interests. He was just skeezy men. He was 100 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: being advised by a lot of skeezy sort, a lot 101 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: of skeezy men, and so he ended up making terrible 102 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: decisions because he was raised in a very particular way, 103 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: and so naturally he doesn't want a Catholic on the throne. 104 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: And he can't put Elizabeth in the line of succession 105 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: if Mary isn't because of the way they had all 106 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: been legitimized. And so he names lady Jane Way his cousin, 107 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: as his heir. Now, the Gray sisters anyway, because they 108 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: were cousins of the king, like they were already close 109 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: to the throne, and they were perfect bargaining chips for 110 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: alliances and to have that proximity to the crown like 111 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: they were there for that, and so they were useful 112 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: to sort of marry anyway. However, however, yeah, yeah, so 113 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: she's young. He's on the throne now, Mary Mary Gray, 114 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: who we are talking about today, as far as I 115 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: can tell, she had a form of Dwarfism, just from 116 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: the way in which she is described throughout her life. Now, 117 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 1: the Gray Sisters in general are not tall people, even 118 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: for the standard of the time. They're known for being 119 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: short in stature. But the way that Mary is discussed 120 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: she is, it's pointed out how short she is and 121 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: the way that her features are mentioned, so it appears 122 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: that she was a dwarf, you know, and that is 123 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: the correct term. I've been informed several times. I'm not 124 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna use any derogatory terminology because I don't believe in it. 125 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, so she was very very short, and so 126 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: many people felt the need to point this out. So 127 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: that's what she looks like. But otherwise she's got your 128 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: typical Tutor features, the hair, the eyes, very much clearly 129 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: part of the Tudor family. But for some reason, whenever 130 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: they're portrayed, like in a sort of visual medium, they're 131 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: usually presented as brunettes for some reason, I don't know why. 132 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: Like they're all strawberry blondes, like they're all sort of 133 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: reddish tones, and yet they're ever gonna make them all brunette. No, 134 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: they all look at that. That's the point. So Mary, 135 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: like her sisters, she is raised in a very Protestant household, 136 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: so they get taught religion, they get taught humanities sort 137 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: of everything that sort of Henry the eighth pushed as 138 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: an education. So they also learned languages and music and 139 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: embroidery obviously because all lady learned embroidery. But music was 140 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: so important to the Tudor court, like it was such 141 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: a massive part of it, like they just had to 142 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: learn it. And they learned like sort of basic science 143 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: as well, just just enough, you know, so, or just 144 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: as much as they were willing to teach women at 145 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: the time. But yeah, so they had a very typical 146 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: like Tudor education, especially for a family that was in 147 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: such close proximity to the crime. And of course when 148 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: Jane is named Edward's Air like their status has elevated 149 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: even higher. And so when she's seven, she catches some 150 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: kind of illness I don't know, some Tudor sickness, the 151 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: lungy of whatever, and it's so bad that it almost 152 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: kills her. But I don't know what it is with 153 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: these gray women. They survive some serious hardships, Like I mean, 154 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: Jane didn't exactly die of natural causes, did she. AnyWho? 155 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: Mary holmost dies defies all odds and survives because of 156 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: course she does, absolutely and then she is betrothed the 157 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: following year to her cousin Arthur Gray, and around about 158 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: this time as well, like Jane and Catherine, they get 159 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: married off from this double marriage, you know, because everyone 160 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: wants to be connected to them, because if you marry 161 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: the women, you have control over the women and therefore 162 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: controlled over the crown. Like I think that's their idea here. 163 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, she's eight years old and betrothed. Now, even 164 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: even in this period, being married at that age weird 165 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: and creepy. Now, young marriage is not normal. They're not normal. 166 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: They're not typical of the era. And I had someone 167 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: like complain a few weeks ago that I was judging 168 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: it from a modern SI standaled. No no, no, no, no, no, 169 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: even during this time period, they found it creepy as fuck. Okay, 170 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: read contemporary accounts from people. People thought child marriages were weird, 171 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: like as a general consensus. And Arthur Gray, like I 172 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: I in my head for many years assumed Arthur Gray 173 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: was just like, oh, a cousin, he must be roughly 174 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: the same age. No, no, no, no, no, this man 175 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: was middle aged. He was a middle aged man who hmmm, 176 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: he was injured because like a pike went through his mouth. 177 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: It's a whole situation and I wonder if because of 178 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: the way that Mary looked, that perhaps this betrothal happened 179 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: because they thought, well, she ain't gonna get any better, 180 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: even though even though people are fickle as fuck, but 181 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: even though she was so close to the crowd, I mean, 182 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: she has the third sister, so she is quite far 183 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: away from it. So like eh, But also there's this 184 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: whole superstition, that, the whole weird religious thing that if 185 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: somebody has any abnormality, for example, if they are paralyzed, 186 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: if they have a disfigurement, if they are a dwarf, 187 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: for example, that these differences are caused by God or 188 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: by evil or like all this kind of stuff. Like 189 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: there's just these weird, superstitious assumptions about it. Anyway, I 190 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: don't believe in it. I think it's awful and I 191 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: think it's horrific. But the past is the past, and 192 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: people believe stupid things. That being said, somebody in the 193 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: last few years tried to cure autism with bleach, so 194 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: I feel like stupidity hasn't gone away quite just yet. Anyway, 195 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: Edward dies, Jenni sends the throne. She's there for nine days, 196 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: and then Mary Tudor comes in and it's like mm 197 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: mmm mmm mmmm, that's my seat. And Jane she was 198 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: just a prisoner. She didn't want to be queen anyway, 199 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: and things would have been fined. They probably would have 200 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: found a way to, you know, get rid of her 201 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: in a non murder scenario. But then their father, Mary 202 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: Catherine and Jane's he decides he's gonna like start a 203 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: rebellion against the queen, which, in a scale of zero 204 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: to invading Russia in the winter is a stupid fucking idea. Naturally, 205 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: marriages were annulled. The betrothal for Mary and Arthur called 206 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: off because everyone's like, no, no, no, we don't want 207 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: to be associated with these social pariahs anymore. So they 208 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: don't want to be connected with that. So Francis, being 209 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: the smart one she is, that's their mother in case 210 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: you've forgotten, she's like, oh, we're totally Catholic. Now, look 211 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: at us doing our hail Mary's in counting our rose 212 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: reads Hell Mary's and also hell Mary, yay, long live 213 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: the Queen. So Catherine she sort of accepted into Mary's court, 214 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: and so she's off doing that. Meanwhile, Francis marries this 215 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: lowborn dude Adrian Stark, and so I think we discussed 216 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: this in the last episode, where it was basically a 217 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: way of her saying, oh, no more high born children 218 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: for me, no more access to the royal line. Everything 219 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: is safe. Has a again, God save the Queen, and 220 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: so she scarpers off. Honestly, I think she just didn't 221 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: want any more kids anyway. So eh, off they go, 222 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: and I think Mary goes along with her because when 223 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: she marries someone lower class you have to like leave court, 224 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: and so Mary goes along with her because you know, 225 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: she's ten years old and as such has to leave court. 226 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, Francis gets married, leaves court, takes Mary with 227 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: her because she's ten, and so off she goes with 228 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: her mum. Now, I think the Gray sisters were treated 229 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: relatively well at court by Mary as a power move. 230 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: If nothing else, it was to show that she wasn't 231 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:18,479 Speaker 1: going to make tear apart or bring instability to the nobility. 232 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: I think by the time that Mary leaves court with 233 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: Francis and her husband Adrian, it's it's going to be 234 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: tough because she's ten years old and she's already seen 235 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: her older sister who she may have not been that 236 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: close to because like that's a pretty big age gap 237 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: when your kids. But like her sister and her father 238 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: were executed by royal decree. That's that's going to shake 239 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: things up for you, Abe, But I think that's going 240 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: to leave some trauma. But yeah, ten years old leaves court. 241 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: Not much information for the next three years. But when 242 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: she's thirteen, Queen Mary the First passes away and Queen 243 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: Elizabeth the First takes over. So one year after that, 244 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: Francis dies, meaning she's only like fourteen at this point, 245 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: and she is one of the chief mourners at mother's funeral. 246 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: She's one of the people who guard the coffin sort 247 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: of the twenty four hours before the funeral. She's one 248 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: of those, which I'm sure was a fun thing to 249 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: do at fourteen. So when her mom passes away, Mary 250 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: has like a tiny bit of inheritance left by her mum. 251 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: So she was smart enough to like grasp as much 252 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: as she could, you know, even though the family was 253 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: in you know, a huge disgrace and everything else that happened. 254 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: But a lot of her estate and everything like that 255 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: had been left to her husband, and so there's a 256 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: little bit left over like for Catherine and for Mary. 257 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: So Elizabeth she is on the throne at this point. 258 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Mary's got just enough to towe her over, and she 259 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: is the second in line to the throne at this point, 260 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: because after Elizabeth, you've got Catherine, who everyone just calls 261 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: like a younger, horror version of her. She's just like 262 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: a prettier version of Elizabeth allegedly, so she's there, and 263 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: then after her it's Mary. So officially, officially in the 264 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: line of succession, these two are next. And because of 265 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: the way that Elizabeth was you know, came into the world, 266 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: the whole Anglance situation, some people felt like she shouldn't 267 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: be queen and they wanted to, I don't know, you 268 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: sup her throne and they thought maybe the Gray Girls 269 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: would be a good way to do it, which not 270 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: a smart thing to do. But so these two are 271 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: her official heirs. And when she is like freshly crowned, 272 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: she is paranoid as hell, and she has every right 273 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: to be because people are like consistently, you know, plotting 274 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: against her. But there's you know, the divine right of kings, queens, whatever, 275 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: and so there are a lot of people on her side. 276 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, she's she's suspicious all the time. Now, Elizabeth 277 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: wasn't an idiot, she was very smart. She was raised 278 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: by Catherine Parr, she was raised by Anne of Cleaves, 279 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: like these were very clever women, so she knew when 280 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: to show her hand and when not to so like officially, 281 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: these two are the next in line, like before she 282 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: writes any official sort of thing. And so the two girls, 283 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: they are brought in to be ladies in waiting for her, 284 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: because she's smart enough to not rock the boat with this. 285 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: And so the good thing is for these two because 286 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: they're scrimping just to lauaye inheritance they've got from Francis's passing, 287 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: and becoming ladies in waiting brings them like a wage, 288 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: like they have money at this point. They're earning just 289 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: by having this position. And for the first time in 290 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: a long long time, Mary is actually able to treat 291 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: herself to some nice stuff, like she's able to dress 292 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: better like Queen Elizabeth loved fashion, she loved style, she 293 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: loved outfits. It's to ken rely ate that actually she 294 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: seemed to have got that from him, I think. But 295 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: it's always interesting when you think about the coronation, because 296 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: she wore Mary's coronation gown when she was crowned, and 297 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: I think she did this to just reinforce her legitimacy 298 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: and the line of succession and that a queen could 299 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: be king. No, a queen could roll, you know. But yeah, 300 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: So Mary's there, She's like really happy to be there. 301 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: She's like more excited about this, and Catherine is, as 302 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: we know, being a bit sassy it like causing causing issues, 303 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: which again not a smart thing to do, not a 304 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: smart thing to it. But Mary's there, she's quite happy, 305 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: and she's what fifteen at this point now being the 306 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: queen's subjects being you know, ladies and waiting like in 307 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: order for them to marry, they need permission of the 308 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: regent and so regnant of the regnant. Apologies, so wait 309 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: regent regnant God damnit my brain. That of the ruling person, right, 310 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: the king or queen. And so Catherine she gets secretly 311 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: married to ned Seymour because that family can't cause enough problems, 312 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: and that becomes a whole issue. Elizabeth tries to declare 313 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: the marriage like invalid, but then Catherine has a son 314 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: who's declared legitimate, and then they have another son. Yeah, 315 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: and so because they had stated the fact that they 316 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: want to get married, because being betrothed effectively back in 317 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: this time was just as good as being married, like 318 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: it was a thing. It was what you did. The 319 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: rest of it was paperwork. So if you did happen 320 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: to bink during that time, absolutely fine, because God says, 321 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: it's oh okay. So, because they had stated that they 322 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: wanted to get married and everyone had heard that, and 323 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: then they had a second child when they were locked 324 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: in jail together, that officially made this boy, Thomas, the 325 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: next male heir to the throne. And this is this 326 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: is again a patriarchal society and the Tudor, so of 327 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: course they're like, so this cause a bit of an 328 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: issue for Elizabeth specifically because again she is unwed and 329 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: she does not have any else and it was very 330 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: easy to use her in propaganda because here she is, 331 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: she's married, she has two heirs, she should be next 332 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: in line for the throne. And then you've got Elizabeth 333 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: who was a childless woman, and they're just like, oh, 334 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: she can't do that. Meanwhile, Mary's just there because on 335 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: one side you've got Catherine Gray and she is gorgeous. 336 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: She is like the epitome of like turor beauty. She's 337 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: got the strawbery blonde hair, she's got the striking blue eyes, 338 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: she's gorgeous. You have Mary, Queen of Scott's lest we forget, 339 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: who is like six feet tall and allegedly also gorgeous. 340 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: Like these two women are there, and then you've got 341 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: Mary who Spanish ambassador who is an absolute prick called 342 00:22:54,800 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: her crooked back and what was it? Very ugly? Like so, sir, 343 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: I will not take this Mary grace lander like how horrible. 344 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean, people are still horrible nowadays, but like, oh, 345 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: I hope you get the flu, sir, the flu. But yes, 346 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: Mary's just there, and she's not really seen as much 347 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: of a threat in any capacity because mainly because she's 348 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: so physically different from those around hers, so they don't 349 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: see her as like this legitimate threat, and also because 350 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: she's not really causing any waves until of course she was, 351 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: which I think is a good time to get a 352 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: word from our sponsors. Mary Gray is twenty years old 353 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: and she meets one mister Thomas Keayes so Keyes was 354 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: a forty something year old sergeant porter in the court. 355 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: So effectively he was the guy who would like jump 356 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 1: in if people were getting too rowdy and they were 357 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: causing a commotion and like fights were breaking out, like 358 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: he would just stop it because he is strong and 359 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: imposing and incredibly trustworthy. Like he is like I don't 360 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: want to see like a bodyguard, but like kind of 361 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: like a bodyguard for the queen, but also just there 362 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: to stop any shit from happening, like a cop of 363 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: the court if the cops actually did the jobs. But yeah, 364 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: he is a very imposing man. He is strong. He 365 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: is six foot eight. I don't care who you are. 366 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: That is that is too tall. That is too tall. 367 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: I have a friend who is six foot seven, and 368 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: I keep joking that we need to like cut off 369 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: his shins and sew his knees to his feet because 370 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: he's just too tall. It's too tall. Like it's difficult 371 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: to talk to him. I have to crack my neck 372 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: all the way up. It's very old for me. So 373 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: twenty year old Mary is courted by by Thomas Keyes 374 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: because like she's a lady in waiting, he's the sergeant porter. 375 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: They're crossing paths all the time. Like I think he 376 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: was married before. I'm assuming death happened to the previous wife. 377 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: But he's got like a bunch of kids, Like there's 378 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: a whole situation. But he's at court and he starts 379 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: courting her, and this is like the courtly game of love. 380 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: Like he's doing it legit. There's like tokens of affection. 381 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: There's gifts. I'm assuming some poetry is involved. Maybe maybe 382 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: he wrote the poetry himself, maybe he got someone else 383 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: to write it, like letters are exchanged, like stuff happens. 384 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: And Mary not really used to this kind of attention, 385 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: like from anyone, But I think it's more than that, 386 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: Like she's genuinely flattered by it, and she's she was 387 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: a bit taken by by Thomas Keyes. So let's bring 388 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: some context back into this a wee bit. So Mary's 389 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: older sister Catherine had been jailed because she married without 390 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: the queen's consent. Her mother, Francis, had managed to marry 391 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: someone lowborn, so someone below her status, thus removing herself 392 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: from the line of succession and out with the firing range. 393 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: Basically target is off her back. So if Mary was 394 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: to marry the sergeant Porter that is a much lower 395 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: rank than her and could possibly just remove her from 396 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: that same like firing range, like just move her down 397 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: a couple of notches and sort of protect her. So 398 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: she probably thought this would be a good idea and 399 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: she can marry she can be safe and also stay 400 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: on Elizabeth's good side. Meanwhile, Mary goitda Scott's is I mean, 401 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: she's a thorn in Elizabeth's side, causing commotions, trying to 402 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: steal the throne. Yerry yaa YadA. And because Mary, Queen 403 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: of Scotts was not yet married at this point, Elizabeth 404 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: was hoping to marry her to Robert Dudley because yeah, 405 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 1: it's her favorite. Then she would have that control. Like 406 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: she thought, this is a great idea, but Mary was 407 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: not for having it. She marries Lord Darnley, who you 408 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: may remember from the episode The Mysterious Murder No, The 409 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: Mysterious Death of Lord Darnley, Scotland's oldest cold case. Sorry, 410 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: as something got caught in my throat. I think the 411 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: Poland is messing with me, Like there's stuff on the 412 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: trees and it's been a real pain. So anyway, Elizabeth 413 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: is busy doing a bunch of stuff and somehow, in 414 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: a crazy random happens dance, Mary forgets somehow to ask 415 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: for permission to get married, and so just decides to 416 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: get married like the Elope, like the Elope, like that 417 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: they saw what happened to Catherine, they saw this, like 418 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: everyone is aware of what happened to Catherine. Great and 419 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: yet she's like, uh huh for a game of soldiers, 420 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: let's do it, and they just a lope, like, what 421 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: is what is wrong with you? Mary? Seriously? Did you 422 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: not look around at the situation and think, huh, maybe 423 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: this might not be the wisest idea? But no, but yes, 424 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: instead of waiting for like a decent time and planning 425 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: this appropriately, they just say to wait till Elizabeth is 426 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: going to another wedding. But she's going to another wedding 427 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: with a bunch of her courtiers, and so this is 428 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: the perfect time to do this. But on the sixteenth 429 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: of July sixteen fifty six, Mary Gray decides to have 430 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: a dinner with three of her lovely cousins, Margaret Willoughby, 431 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: the two daughters of Lady Stanford, and a servant girl 432 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: named Francis Goldwell. Now, she didn't want anybody like who 433 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: was too high in status being a witness for the wedding, 434 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 1: because she didn't want to get them in like trouble, 435 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: which I think is a very sweet thing to do. 436 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: But she wanted to have enough witnesses for her wedding 437 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: to ensure that it was legitimate because the issue with 438 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: the whole Ned Seymour and Catherine Gray wedding was that 439 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: it was only Ned's sister Jane who was the witness, 440 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: and then Jane died, so they didn't have the evidence 441 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: of that. So she gets this little group together to 442 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: be witnesses for her wedding. Thomas Keyes manages to like 443 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 1: get a few people as well, so there was like 444 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: eleven guests in total to this wedding, so there's enough 445 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: people to witness it, but not like witness it too 446 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: much lest again they get in trouble because they don't 447 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: want to get people beheaded, because Elizabeth was a bit 448 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: more hearty with that than people think she was. Like 449 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: there's this assumption that bloody Mary as she's called, was 450 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: like this big, ruthless, consistent murderer when Elizabeth killed a 451 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: bunch of people too, Like it's not it's not just one, 452 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: like they were all beheading people at this point. So 453 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: Mary Gray and Thomas Keys they get married, they have 454 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: a banquet, there's a feast, everything's great, and then for 455 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: like the next what nine ten days, everything is fabulous, 456 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: married Bliss probably boinking all the time and I'm sorry, 457 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: she's so small and he's so large, like there's mmmm 458 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: mmmm oh no, oh well maybe maybe he just has 459 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: a small Oh oh no, what if this is like 460 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: a cucumber and a coin pass situation oofed? Oh oh, 461 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: that's how you get a uti oofed. Now after those 462 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: ten days of wedded Bliss, Well, how about this? Mary 463 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: Queen of Scott's causes a commotion because she marries Lord Darnley, 464 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: who is objectively just an awful human being, and she 465 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: ends up writing to like Elizabeth going not going to 466 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: invade if you name me your heir, which is again 467 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: such a stupid thing to do. So this this has got, 468 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, the hackles up on Elizabeth. So at this point, 469 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: Elizabeth doesn't want to name Mary Queina Scott's her heir because, 470 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: like just the court wouldn't allow it. Like her advisors, 471 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: they were not for this because they all preferred like 472 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: Catherine Gray to Mary Queen of Scott's at this point, 473 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: especially because Mary Queen of Scott's was raised in France, 474 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: to be a French princess, so like she didn't have 475 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: like an English connection anyway. So this led to Elizabeth 476 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: not being a super big fan of the Gray Sistils 477 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: at this point. And then the rumor mill sort of 478 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: swirls around and she finally finds out that the Sergeant Porter, 479 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: the dude of the court, has married Mary Gray secretly 480 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: when she was away. Naturally, Elizabeth is pissed and she's 481 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: like mm mm mmm. And she's learned her lesson before 482 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: with you know, Catherine Gray and ned Seymour, and so 483 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: she she sends Keys and maybe Gray two separate prisons. Again, 484 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: she has learned her lesson, and so the servant girl, 485 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: Francis Goldwell, gets taken to the queen and they're just like, 486 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,239 Speaker 1: what did you do with this trees and this thing? 487 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: Were you at this awful event? And she was like 488 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: what she plays dumb and I love this for her. 489 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: She's like she asks, like she had no idea what 490 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: was going on. She was like, well, people were there 491 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: when they were just standing, I don't know, I didn't 492 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: realize it was a wedding. Like she just totally plays 493 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: off like whatever, And luckily Lady Howard who's her lady. 494 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: She's like she is a simpleton. Of course she didn't understand, 495 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: and so there's this whole thing. She manages to like 496 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: get away with it, like she saves her neck specifically 497 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: because she acted like she was just an idiot. Fabulous, Francis, 498 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: you love another Day. Ten points for you, Francis. I 499 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: love Francis Goldwell, love us so much, like I love 500 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: the fact that she's pretending to be an idiot just 501 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: to get by. It's like it's like when Alice of 502 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: Battenberg has the Nazis like raising her house and she's 503 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: like what and death and she really leans into it 504 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: and she's like, I don't know what you're talking about. 505 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: I love it, while like dropping ash on his shoes. 506 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, Francis Goldwell loves to talk another day. Well, 507 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: Francis managed to like get away with it. Thomas Keyes 508 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: was not so successful. So he's the Sergeant Porter, Like 509 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: his whole point is being like loyal and trustworthy and 510 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: just like being the guy. So when you secretly marry 511 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, the Queen's cousin against the Queen's well, yeah, 512 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: kind of a big deal. And so they put him 513 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: into a prison called fleet and he's in solid you 514 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: can find it. Heeds this in tiny whe cell because 515 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: they want to punish him as much as possible because 516 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: he's six foot eight. I'm like, he's all smoohed in, 517 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: like he's stuck in this tiny whee cell. He's not 518 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: allowed to go walking, you can't stretch his legs. Like 519 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: that's uncomfortable the best times for like a regular sized human. 520 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: He's six foot eight. The man is practically a giant, 521 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: like Andre the Giant, like because he's like he's not 522 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: a skinny, scrawny man, because he's a strong soldier person, 523 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: you know. And and he's you know, he's crunched up 524 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: in this we sell and naturally he's like he agrees. 525 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: He's like, if there's an annulment, I'll take it, no worries, 526 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: because you know, he's in the court. He saw what 527 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: happened to Catherine like and and ned, and he's like, no, no, 528 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: I'll take it. Meanwhile, Mary, she's over in this country 529 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: house checkers and Hawtrey is the guy who lives there, 530 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: and he's an old family friend. But like she's not 531 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: supposed to like send or received letters. She's like a 532 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: little like a little bit of walking outside, but like 533 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: there's this whole all these rules that they have to 534 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: follow to like keep her in check, you know. And 535 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: remember at this point, Catherine Gray is also like imprisoned 536 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: like somewhere in England. Now, Mary, even though she's not 537 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: supposed to send him received letters, she sends a couple 538 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: of letters trying to trying to just get out effectively, 539 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: and she sends them all Mary Gray. She doesn't sign 540 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: them Mary Keys, because she's like, what marriage what now? Unfortunately, 541 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: because she was smart enough to ensure that there was 542 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 1: a fuck ton of witnesses to protect her marriage claim, 543 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: there was a fuck ton of witnesses to ensure the 544 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: marriage claim. The people had seen the marriage were they 545 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: witnessed it, and then also they knew the marriage was consummated, 546 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: so you know, like there was very much clear that 547 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: this had happened and that there was no grounds to 548 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: like dissolve the marriage. So after one year of being 549 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: in the Fleet prison, this new jailer comes in and 550 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: he is an absolute shit duck back. So Thomas Keys 551 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: he'd been like trying to like hunt birds with the 552 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: waistling shot he'd made so that he could like eat 553 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: at least some decent food, but this new jailer was 554 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: like not allowed to do that, and so they give 555 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: him like rotten meat, like at one point they even 556 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: like drop it in like poison like and other stuff 557 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: like they're like actively trying to kill him. And news 558 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: of this is somehow getting back to Mary and she's 559 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: like this is not good. I don't like this. And 560 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: so Mary Grey, she's like trying, she's like trying to 561 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: get him out, and Elizabeth is just like not moving. 562 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: She's not a chance done. But she does move Mary 563 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: from being checkers to being with Catherine Willoughby, who was 564 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: like Mary's step grandmother, and so she's going to go 565 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: live with her, and Katherine Willoughby's just like told that 566 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: Mary's gonna come stay with her, and then when Mary 567 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: shows up, she's genuinely shocked because she's sort of scrubby 568 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: and stuff, like she doesn't have like nice attire or 569 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: any belongings, you know, and she's like, well, I was 570 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: sort of in prison and because of this, yeah, yeah, yeah, 571 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: And she used to be like sort of opinionated and 572 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: she was just full of gumption and excitement, and Catherine 573 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: was like, this is weird. And then Mary just goes 574 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: through this like depression and she's not eating, like the 575 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: same thing that Katherine Gray did. It's just like not 576 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: eating out of depression, just like starving herself. And like 577 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: Queen Mary the first, like she did the same thing. 578 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: They would just like not eat and she's just not 579 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: doing well. And like Katherin Mulliby is like writing to 580 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: everybody saying that this is happening. And Elizabeth, Queen Elizabeth, 581 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: she is kind of counting on this because meanwhile, in 582 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: a move that surprises absolutely no one, Mary, Queen of Scott's, 583 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: her husband again dies in a mysterious accident, and then 584 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: she marries this awful dude who may or may not 585 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: have killed her husband and also may or may not 586 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: have kidnapped her and forced a marriage upon her, Like 587 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: those are things that may have happened, and this is 588 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: a whole situation, and she really wants to be the 589 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: heir and Elizabeth's like maybe, but also she wants to 590 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: be in a position where Mary Gray cannot like cause 591 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: a scene in rally people behind her, and so she 592 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: wants to keep her down. And so Katherin Mullyby, like 593 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: her kids are in their teens Peregrine and Bertie, I 594 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: think they are, and they're hoping that this is like 595 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: boost Mary's spirits up, but she's she's not really having it, 596 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: but Catherine's trying to do it. And so Elizabeth doesn't 597 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: want Mary's spirits to be lifted in any capacity, and 598 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: so she removes her from Catherine Willoughby's household, and so 599 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: she gets chucked into another country house, another house arrest, 600 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: mansion arrest, castle arrest, one of those with the Greshams 601 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: Thomas and Anne. Now Thomas Gresham quite happy to have 602 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: Mary there. He was in a considerable amount of pain 603 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: because he broke his leg. It wasn't set properly, and 604 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: he was just like inconsistent agony all the time, and 605 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: he was also visually impaired as well. And an Anne 606 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 1: did not like Mary being there, apart from the fact 607 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: that whoever like hosted, and I say that generously, however hosted, 608 00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: Mary had to pay for her stuff, right because Elizabeth 609 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be He wasn't gonna be paying for that 610 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: because why would she. She just like sets the whole 611 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: situation and lets it happen, and Anne ends up calling 612 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: Mary was like the heart and sorrow of her life 613 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: because she like can't go places because she has to 614 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: stay and look after Mary. Luckily, the Greshams are like 615 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: rich enough to cover the cost of stuff, but and 616 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: still ain't keen on that though, And so because Anne 617 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,959 Speaker 1: and Mary aren't getting along because Anne is just mad 618 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: that she's there like the couple, so Thomas nan their 619 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: marriage is like worsening for it, and so they write 620 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: to try and get Mary sent away, and it takes 621 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: a while for this to happen. Meanwhile, Thomas Keyes doesn't 622 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: die from poisoned meat and is finally released from jail 623 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: and manages to get a job in Kent basically doing 624 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: soldiery security stuff. Like his kids from his first marriage, 625 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: like they were abound this area, so he's near them, 626 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: so he probably has that kind of support. And he 627 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: writes to the queen and he writes to sort of 628 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: counsel trying to get permission to visit Mary, I mean, 629 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: who he hasn't seen in four years, granted, but he 630 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: still considers her his wife, probably because she is legally 631 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: his wife and Elizabeth is just like no computer says no. 632 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: This may have been due to the fact that Catherine 633 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: Gray had passed away, and as such, Mary was now 634 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: the official legal next in line to the throne after Elizabeth, 635 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: and obviously she doesn't want to throw that dog a boat, 636 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: but he is trying. He tries for two years to 637 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: try and reunite with his wife, and then he dies. 638 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: Basically had a bunch of health issues from being in 639 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: prison and being fed you know, rotten poisoned meat. You 640 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: know that that will have an effect on you being 641 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 1: in a crump, damp like area. Well, yeah, not great, 642 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: not great for you. So yeah, he passes away, meaning 643 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: that Mary Gray is now a widow and is no 644 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: longer married. Now, Mary is not told of her husband's 645 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: passing right away. They want to make sure they get 646 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: a doctor to be there because they're like, this is 647 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: gonna upset her. So they bring a doctrine and they 648 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: finally announce you know the information. Yeah, good thing he 649 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: was there, Good thing he was there, because she was 650 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: she was she was not. She was not doing great 651 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: with that information. And so the Greshams they write to 652 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth, They're like, can she wear mourning garb? Can 653 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: she do this? And Elizabeth again is just like no, no, 654 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: And then in a stubborn move like all this time, 655 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: like Mary was sending her letters like Mary Gray, Mary Gray, 656 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: like every single time. But then she writes to Queen 657 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: Elizabeth and she signs her letters Mary Keys. That's a 658 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: great idea, Like you're not gonna allow me to mourn properly, Well, 659 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: how about this? And her like stubborn streak is like 660 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: so back, it's so back, and she's causing such issues 661 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: like the Greshams at this point are like desperate to ridever. 662 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: He's writing letter after letterr like please get rid of her, 663 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: Please get rid of her, like she's I need her gone, 664 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: Dear God, get her out of here. Then in fifteen 665 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: seventy two, Elizabeth has Mary Gray released. Now now she 666 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: does this to kind of win favor at court, because 667 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 1: at one point they're like, well, you could be nice 668 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: to Mary Queen of Scott's and she's like, oh no, 669 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: because she's trying to steal my throat. Let's not do that. 670 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: And so she's like, let's free Mary Gray. Hurray. This 671 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: was also helped by the fact that even though Mary, 672 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 1: Queen of scott would have had like certain supporters, being 673 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:08,439 Speaker 1: Catholic and whatnot, Mary Gray didn't really have any supportive court, 674 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: like nobody really wanted her to be queen. Nobody really 675 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: was into that, and so she wasn't really a threat 676 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: to Elizabeth's reign because, like anybody that would have supported Mary, 677 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: at this point, we're now supporting the male heirs, which 678 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: would have been Catherine's sons, so they were more focused 679 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: on that instead of Mary. Now, because she'd been under 680 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: house arrest for so long, she hadn't had access to 681 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: her like inheritance or anything like that, and it wasn't 682 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: returned to her like once she was freed. But she 683 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: goes and she asks the queen, she asks, you know, 684 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: can I have my money? And she allows her to 685 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: have a small allowance. So Mary she's free. She's got 686 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: all her books and a teeny tiny allowance, and she 687 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: heads to Adrian Stokes, like her former stepfather. He's remarried 688 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 1: at this time to Lady Throckmorton. She's got seven kids 689 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: from my previous Because it's the truer era that people 690 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: are always remarrying. Now, I've said it before and I'll 691 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: say it again. People bring up the idea of the 692 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: nuclear family as the typical traditional thing, but blended families 693 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: like they've existed for like hundreds thousands of years, like 694 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 1: it's so normalized, and you know, because men would die 695 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: in war, there was all the diseases of course, and 696 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: women dying of everything, and so yeah, a lot of 697 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: like blended families were happening. So yeah, Mary moves in 698 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: with the rock Mortons and the Strokes and just all 699 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: of them. And luckily, Lady Throckmorton had known Mary when 700 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: she was weay, and so she was very welcoming to 701 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: her into the household. And so after living there for 702 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: like a year or so, Mary had saved up enough 703 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: money to set up her own household. I think she 704 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: like saved her allowance or something, and whatever she did, 705 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: maybe she sold some books. Whom's to say, But she's 706 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: twenty seven and she just is out to go live 707 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: her best life. So Mary, she's free, she's got her 708 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: own household, and she's just like having acquaintances and friends, 709 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: Like she's chatting to like the Willoughbies and the Berties. 710 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: And even though she wasn't allowed to take custody of 711 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: Thomas Keith's kids, like, she still sort of connects with 712 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: them and she becomes very friendly with them, including his 713 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: daughter Jane Merrick, and she ends up becoming like godmother 714 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: to like one of her kids. And she manages to 715 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: also connect with sort of former people from court from 716 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: when she was a lady in waiting, so she connects 717 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: with them and ned Seymour, who's like Catherine's widower, like 718 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: all of these and like Mary ends up sending like 719 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: a gift to Queen Elizabeth. So she sends her some 720 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: bracelets and the Queen accepts them, which is really big 721 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: deal because it shows that, you know, she's not so 722 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: against Mary anymore, that there's no, like at least obvious 723 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: animosity there. And this is like reinforced by the fact 724 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: that Mary is then given a portion of the income 725 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 1: from like the grainlands. So because when the Grays whenever 726 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: they had been like imprisoned and whatnot, the Crown like 727 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: took ownership of their estates and whatnot, So the money 728 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,439 Speaker 1: they would have earned from that was brought back into 729 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: the crown. But now Elizabeth is gifting I say gifting, Well, yeah, 730 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: she's given that back to Mary to have all of it, 731 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: not all of it, but like a week bit all 732 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: of it, like enough enough for her to live her 733 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: fabulous life and for the first time in a long time, 734 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: like she can afford the finer things in life. So 735 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: she's able to like run her household with all the 736 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: staff that she wants. She's able to buy gowns and 737 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: jewelry and have things that could or like it is 738 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: made for her, and so it's I mean, it's all 739 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: made for them obviously because like but still it's like 740 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: the best of the best. And clearly she does so well, 741 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 1: like working up the ranks that she becomes a made 742 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 1: of honor for the Queen, Like she is doing so 743 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,720 Speaker 1: so well. Now the year after she becomes the Queen's 744 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,760 Speaker 1: made of honor, like a year after this, the plague 745 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: just ravages through London, and Mary like she's worried. She 746 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: draws up her will like she gets ill, and so 747 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: she's like really just putting everything in place she has 748 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: she was getting. She was given Francis Brandon's like jewels 749 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: and stuff, and so she ends up sending them to 750 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: like her step grandmother, to katherin Mullaby, and so she 751 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: sends like stuff to throck Morton, so Adrian Stroke's wife, 752 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: and she just gives things to the money and plates 753 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: and whatnot to her goddaughter Mary Merrick, who's like Jane 754 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 1: Merrick's daughter, And so she ends up giving away all 755 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: this stuff like she has all of its connected to 756 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: people that matter to her, which I think is very lovely. 757 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 1: And she then so ill passes away at the age 758 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: of thirty three on the twentieth of April fifteen seventy eight. Now, 759 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: unlike the rest of her siblings, Mary gets an amazing funeral, 760 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: Like the Queen grants her to have a funeral in 761 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 1: Westminster Abbey, Like that is a big deal, especially for 762 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 1: Elizabeth to do so, because she didn't alive it for 763 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of them, like she deliberately like didn't have 764 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: these because she was not supporting them, she wasn't validating this. 765 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: And so yeah, she has her funeral Westminster Abbey. The 766 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 1: Countess of Kent is the chief mourner and she is 767 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: buried in Francis Brandon's tomb in Westminster Abbey. Now, unlike 768 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: any of the other Gray sisters, Mary never made a 769 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 1: claim for the throne. She never suggested that she would be, 770 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: Like she tried to pull herself out of the leno 771 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: of succession, Like she actively tried to not do that, 772 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: like not that Jane Gray ever wanted the throne that 773 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: was kind of thrust upon her, but she personally never 774 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 1: made the claim. And so ends the Tale of the 775 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: Three Gray Sistels. And if you liked my retelling of 776 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: this story, feel free of writting review of five starts. 777 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: And if you didn't like it, don't see anything mean 778 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: about me because I'll cry. But yeah, I'm hoping to 779 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: see people at Dublin tomorrow. It'll be amazing. Not tomorrow today, 780 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: I forgot what day it was. Anyway, I hope to 781 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: see you all there. It's a recommendation time, I guess 782 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: for watching and watching first, like I rewatched The Marvels 783 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: last night with my little girl. I was watching it 784 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: and it was not Every movie needs to be a 785 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:35,439 Speaker 1: thought provoking, the cinema bending experience. Like sometimes movies can 786 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:41,760 Speaker 1: just entertain. So you know what, go watch that. It's fun. 787 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: It's got three women in it and they're all connected 788 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 1: in a weird special way and it's just fun. It's 789 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:53,879 Speaker 1: just good fun for listening. You know what, if you're 790 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: not already listening to the Murdermost Irish podcast. If you 791 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,879 Speaker 1: like true crime, I'm throwing a true crime thing here. 792 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,320 Speaker 1: The girls and Colin fabulous, amazing, love them. I've probably 793 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: recommended them before. I don't care I'm doing it again, 794 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:13,240 Speaker 1: so go deal with them. And then finally she says, 795 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:23,280 Speaker 1: for reading, you should be a Kinky History by Ismy James. 796 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: And not just because I'm going to her book lunch, 797 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: but you should absolutely read her book. She is amazing. 798 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: Esmy is actually an absolute darling. I adore her, and 799 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: y'all just need to understand how fabulous she is. And 800 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: if you don't understand how fabulius she is, I can't 801 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,240 Speaker 1: help you, I don't think, but I hope to see 802 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 1: some of you there. Let me know if you've made it.