WEBVTT - Fantasy Division Preview: AFC North

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, It's Monday, July twenty second, twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome him to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>not quite in the best shape of our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been your man, MG Marcus.

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<v Speaker 1>Grand joined by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones and well

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<v Speaker 1>one Happy Monday, gentlemen. But to LQ, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>are in the midst of sort of Good Morning Football

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<v Speaker 1>reboot rehearsals. You were up and in the office at

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<v Speaker 1>an ungodly hour.

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<v Speaker 2>How was that? It was good? It is a normal

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<v Speaker 2>shift for me. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I like getting up early, to starting on my day

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<v Speaker 3>early and getting through it, you know. But the rehearsals

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<v Speaker 3>are going great.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I love Akbar.

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<v Speaker 1>Akbar Barja Biamila is great. He's back on Good Morning Football.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you who've been watching NFL Fantasy Live

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<v Speaker 1>for a number of years, you might remember him from that,

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<v Speaker 1>or you may know him from am I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>Troy McClure in The Simpsons.

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<v Speaker 2>You might remember me from such self help video.

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<v Speaker 1>You might remember him from either NFL Fantasy Live or

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<v Speaker 1>from American Ninja War, or he is back on Good

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Football. Big, big personality, really fun guy, great guy

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<v Speaker 1>to work with, so you get you get to have

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<v Speaker 1>that that that joy for you.

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<v Speaker 2>For you were out balling this morning, you were Jim Jones.

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<v Speaker 4>I joined an LA Fitness but they have a basketball court.

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<v Speaker 4>So all all this offseason, I've been getting getting some

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<v Speaker 4>shots in a few times a week, and usually I

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<v Speaker 4>go after the show, but this today we flipped the

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<v Speaker 4>show a little bit later, so I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I am also like Lakwan, an early riser, although I

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<v Speaker 4>will say there's a huge difference between like being awake

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<v Speaker 4>at six am and being at work at six am.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm almost always awake at that time. I hate being

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<v Speaker 4>at work at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's those are very much two different things. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the client saying I like getting up early.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, bro, you have kids, you don't have a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that is also to shout out to you, Floria,

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<v Speaker 1>because we did shift our shooting or our recording schedule around.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing this in the midst of the USA's Olympic

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<v Speaker 1>warm up against Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>So now it's on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're starting five Steph, Devin Booker, Drew Holliday, Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>and embiid are are you're starting five for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's trying to find the TV next to his

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<v Speaker 1>desk right now. So in the mean time while he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, I will let you know what we have

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<v Speaker 1>on the show today. We are continuing our division previews.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is the AFC North, which should be a really

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<v Speaker 1>intriguing division to watch just from a football perspective, also

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<v Speaker 1>a really intriguing division to watch my fantasy perspective, because uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some changes across the division and you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>some really intriguing teams, really intriguing pieces that we will

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<v Speaker 1>get into. But let's start, as we normally do around

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<v Speaker 1>this time, with some news and rumors. I include the

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<v Speaker 1>rumors part because we don't have any actual football going

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<v Speaker 1>on down in Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud was asked about these skill positions on the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>offense and he said, quote, it's a five headed monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I don't know about you, Florio.

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<v Speaker 1>That immediately sort of made me queasy because it's again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great for real football. You have so many options,

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<v Speaker 1>so many places to go with the ball. For us,

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<v Speaker 1>that means it gets a little bit harder to peg.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is the guy you want. So I'm gonna ask

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<v Speaker 1>you who do you think will be the top scoring

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<v Speaker 1>non quarterback in Houston for fantasy?

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<v Speaker 4>Nico Collins. I think Joe Mixon is a fine pick

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<v Speaker 4>at running back, But Nico Collins, I don't believe is

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<v Speaker 4>going I'm sorry, c J. Stroud. I don't believe is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna dump off the ball nearly as much as Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Burrow did.

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<v Speaker 2>He was.

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<v Speaker 4>He keeps his eyes down field, man, and he looks

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<v Speaker 4>for every strike to throw the deep ball that he can.

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<v Speaker 4>The reason I like Nico Collins so much is because

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<v Speaker 4>I just have the most confidence in him getting the

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<v Speaker 4>opportunities right. He can stretch the field, he could win

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<v Speaker 4>after the catch. He could play out wide, he could

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<v Speaker 4>play in the slot. Now I know a prime steph

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<v Speaker 4>Diggs could do all of that, But at thirty one

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<v Speaker 4>years old, was he potentially losing a step last year?

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<v Speaker 4>And I know Tank Dell has the ability to take

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<v Speaker 4>the top of a defense and brings a high ceiling,

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<v Speaker 4>But is he gonna be out there in two wide

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<v Speaker 4>receiver sets. I think it's possible we could see Diggs

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<v Speaker 4>and Dell rotate in two wide receiver sets, but I

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<v Speaker 4>feel confident that Nico Collins will not leave the field.

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<v Speaker 4>So to me, I think he is the right combination

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<v Speaker 4>you want. That he brings the upside that say, like

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<v Speaker 4>a Tank Dell has, But I also think he brings

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<v Speaker 4>a safe floor, which is kind of how I'm viewing

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<v Speaker 4>Steph Diggs in the sofense.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, lakwan, are we are we overdrafting Texans

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<v Speaker 1>just because there are so many places to go? I

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<v Speaker 1>know we all know what the ceiling is for each

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys individually, but I mean with them all together,

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<v Speaker 1>how worried are you that they're going to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>cannibalize each other?

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<v Speaker 3>I am really worried, man. I think this offense will

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<v Speaker 3>look great, you know in real life football, like Sundays

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<v Speaker 3>will be exciting to watch the Texans and watching c J.

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<v Speaker 3>Stroud just drive downfield. Before a fantasy aspect of things,

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<v Speaker 3>we may be overdrafting some of these guys, like Tank

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<v Speaker 3>Dell is going in the third round right now in

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<v Speaker 3>best ball. I mean, we're waiting on redraft ADPs. But

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<v Speaker 3>that still seems a little spicy for me. If we

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<v Speaker 3>already have CJ. Stroud saying this is a five headed

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<v Speaker 3>monster like it's going to be a constant week to

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<v Speaker 3>week headache that I feel like, because look, Dalton Schaltz,

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<v Speaker 3>he actually had a bunch of targets last season, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's like we have to account of him as well,

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<v Speaker 3>being that he was c J. Stroud's like best friend

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<v Speaker 3>Dordan training camp last year. So I really feel as

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<v Speaker 3>though this offense is going to be a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>frustration from fantasy managers. But let's just be happy that

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<v Speaker 3>we drafted c J.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud. Hopefully that's the game plan for some.

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<v Speaker 3>Folks, because he is the biggest winner out of this

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<v Speaker 3>whole package where he can. Honestly, I can see him

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<v Speaker 3>clearing thirty touchdowns and if he's still responsible with the

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<v Speaker 3>ball like he was last year, I don't see why

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<v Speaker 3>he can't be a top five quarterback without even having

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<v Speaker 3>the rushing upside. I just think this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>a high power offense, but gotta be realistic here. When

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to Nico and Diggs and when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to Tank Dell and their ADPs, they're fairly closed. So

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<v Speaker 3>either way it's going to be a gamble.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was interesting you mentioned Dalton Schultz cause

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's the thing that we don't really

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've talked about the Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's, you know, how do we separate Collins from Dell

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<v Speaker 1>from Diggs, and we don't mention the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>have a tight end who is very capable of catching

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<v Speaker 1>the football and being a part of the offense as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the reason that I've drafted CJ. Stroud.

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<v Speaker 1>I've taken some shots on Texans wide receivers, but this

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a quintessential they're better and best ball sort

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<v Speaker 1>of offense because that way you don't have to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of figure out what week you're going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>start them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, there's gonna be a week where Stefan Diggs probably

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<v Speaker 1>has you know, twenty some odd points, and there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>a couple weeks in there where he has like six

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<v Speaker 1>because they didn't necessarily need him or the defense tried

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<v Speaker 1>to take him away. They can still be successful without

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<v Speaker 1>any one of those guys having a really really big

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<v Speaker 1>week and any given point.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's the backfield issue because Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Mixon goes in there and seems to have a really

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<v Speaker 1>nice slot, but Florida over the weekend and they, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess officially announced it this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Acres is going to be a Houston Texan. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, like when it saw it immediately I text put

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<v Speaker 1>in the text chain right just mostly get a reaction

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<v Speaker 1>out of out of the Kwan and he was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was basically that like, wow, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, Florida, Can cam Akers be a thing in this

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<v Speaker 1>Houston offense as long as Joe Mixon is healthy?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't know if Akers should be a thing

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<v Speaker 4>on any team in the NFL anymore with all the

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<v Speaker 4>It's the same reason I feel about JK. Dobbins, Like

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<v Speaker 4>when you have an acl and an achilles and all

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<v Speaker 4>of this stuff adds up. Like listen, man, at some

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<v Speaker 4>point injuries just they take their toll and they win.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm fearful that we're getting to that point with Acres.

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<v Speaker 4>But it wasn't like that this just came out of

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<v Speaker 4>the blue. The worked out Dean Jackson last week. They

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<v Speaker 4>worked out a number of different running backs, which gives

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<v Speaker 4>me hope. And I've been saying this since the NFL Draft,

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<v Speaker 4>like they can move Damian Pierce potentially in August. There's

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<v Speaker 4>teams like the Cowboys like the Chargers that I think

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<v Speaker 4>would take Damian Pierce and make him an RB two

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<v Speaker 4>if he was to get the starting opportunity on those

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<v Speaker 4>teams with higher upside. And I just don't think he's

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<v Speaker 4>a good fit for Bobby Slowick and this version of

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<v Speaker 4>the Texans offense. I think he's a great fit for

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<v Speaker 4>an old scot old school like run between the tackles

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<v Speaker 4>physical style of play, which is what the Chargers might

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<v Speaker 4>do where the Cowboys could do. So that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 4>hopeful that he gets moved. And that was my biggest

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<v Speaker 4>takeaway from this cam Aker signing was like, maybe they

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<v Speaker 4>do move on from Damian Pierce and I continue to

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<v Speaker 4>draft him in like the seventeenth round of my best

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<v Speaker 4>ball drafts.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a good spot to get him.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say that I drafted him really anywhere, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it was a conscious like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>staying away from him. I just didn't draft him at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know where my heart is, I'm drafting Damien Piers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're still a Pierce believer, right, Yeah, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>let it go.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to be on special teams and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's where he could be utilized more. I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>very explosive. We know that he's a downhill runner. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that can take it to the house, like

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<v Speaker 3>he's an angry runner, Like come on, I really feel

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<v Speaker 3>as though he could be utilized properly. But Florio hit

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<v Speaker 3>hit it nail on the head. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 3>the system fits him because remember last year in camp,

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<v Speaker 3>he was watching CMC tapes trying to catch more passes,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think Joe Mixon fits more into that to

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<v Speaker 3>where I feel like, you know, Damian Piers has to

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<v Speaker 3>be on the move.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember like last year the articles, the headlines

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<v Speaker 1>about like you're trying to be more like Christian McCaffrey,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, yeah, I think I'm at a point where

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily fall for That's the.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing in the world, because no offense unless you are

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<v Speaker 4>going to get that skill set through the computer screen

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<v Speaker 4>or something like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's good to watch and how this guy gets

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<v Speaker 2>over how he.

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<v Speaker 4>Catches and stuff, but like Christian McCaffrey is a once

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<v Speaker 4>in a lifetime talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we gotta we gotta stop doing this, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's I mean it is. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>all the young Titans who kept coming into the league

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<v Speaker 1>and they kept being compared to Gronk.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how many baby Gronks did we go to

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<v Speaker 2>either Higby? I think T. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Hawkinson was one. I mean we I've been through a

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<v Speaker 1>number of baby Gronks. Like we got to stop that,

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta stop. Like, you know, just because you're a

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<v Speaker 1>running back who catches the football does not make you

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<v Speaker 1>Christian McCaffrey.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes you a running back who catches the football.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's it, Like that's all that is.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at the Texans stats from last year and

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<v Speaker 4>rough math in my head right now, it looks like

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<v Speaker 4>all of their running backs combined had like around sixty targets.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a lot. No, No, they were not. They

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<v Speaker 2>were not very involved in the passing game last year.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's a CJ. Roud thing, not a

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<v Speaker 4>Devin Singletary Damian Pierce thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you've got so many targets all over the field,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even when things sort of break down, you

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<v Speaker 1>can find somebody to get the ball to. So unless

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<v Speaker 1>it is particularly schemed up that way, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>see it happening. I mean, I'm looking at this what

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Singletary had thirty eight targets and that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was your leader among running backs, Like, h yeah, that's he.

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<v Speaker 4>Prettyroud keeps his eyes as downfield as he possibly can.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, it's just it's pretty bleak for that part

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<v Speaker 2>of the game there.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, in New York, Darren Waller, who is recently retired,

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<v Speaker 1>said he believes Daniel Jones can return to his form

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty said, quote, that's definitely still in him.

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<v Speaker 1>So a simple, simple question for you, Laqwan hype train

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<v Speaker 1>or smoke screen on Daniel Jones bouncing back to where

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<v Speaker 1>he was a couple.

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<v Speaker 4>Of years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Smoke screen, what are we doing here? I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really see Daniel Jones even tapping back anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>near twenty twenty two, because we had to remember the

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<v Speaker 3>first five games he started the season was very very bad.

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<v Speaker 3>And like not even just the interceptions, because half of

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<v Speaker 3>them weren't his fault. There were pop off of defenders.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just think overall that just the passing production,

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to go downfield. It's the weapons around him.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, you add Molik Neighbors, But you just lost

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<v Speaker 3>two of the biggest pieces that you had already set

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<v Speaker 3>last season. So in honesty, this offense took a step

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<v Speaker 3>back even further, even adding the two guards that they

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<v Speaker 3>got to help out that old line because Daniel Jones

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<v Speaker 3>is getting smacked. But when you look at the two

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<v Speaker 3>guards they added, they both allowed six QB hits last season,

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<v Speaker 3>which was more than any of the Giants starter on

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<v Speaker 3>the line. So it's not like they actually fixed the issue.

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<v Speaker 3>They just kind of put a band aid, A used

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<v Speaker 3>band aid on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Situation to where band aid.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like nothing really has gotten better out of

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<v Speaker 3>his team other than you added Malik Neighbors. But I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you lose Saquon Barkley used Darren Waller two

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<v Speaker 3>security blankets that day, and Jones were lied on a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody knows to cover Milik Neighbors. So that's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be something that I'm looking forward to in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four. H Hype Traininger Smoke Screen Floria.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree.

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<v Speaker 4>I think. Look, I'm not telling you to go out

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<v Speaker 4>and draft Daniel Jones as your starting quarterback. He's barely

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<v Speaker 4>being drafted as a QB two in leagues, But I

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<v Speaker 4>do think a lot of us are forgetting what Daniel won.

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<v Speaker 4>I still trust Brian Dable. I know last year it

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<v Speaker 4>crashed out and everything, but Brian day later in the season,

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<v Speaker 4>when he got Darren Waller back healthy, and when he

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<v Speaker 4>got some of his other pieces, when Saquan was going,

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<v Speaker 4>like with Tommy DeVito and Tyrod Taylor. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 4>remember they took the Eagles to the brink on Christmas

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<v Speaker 4>Day or whatever it was. So I believe in Brian

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<v Speaker 4>Dable as a play caller. I think we're forgetting how

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<v Speaker 4>much of a runner Daniel Jones was two years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that Nie could put that into question. But Darren Waller,

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<v Speaker 4>as much as I loved him last year, and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if anyone was higher on Darren Waller than

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<v Speaker 4>I was swinging a miss. He was so in and

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<v Speaker 4>out of the lineup and banged up and stuff that

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<v Speaker 4>I do believe there is a chance Milik Neighbors could.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Molik Neighbors as a talent. I think he

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<v Speaker 4>could come in and have an effect like Justin Jefferson

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<v Speaker 4>did on that Vikings offense, like Jamar Chase did on

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<v Speaker 4>the Bengals, like Jayalen Watt, Like we've seen it before

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<v Speaker 4>where these rookie wide receivers come in and where like

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<v Speaker 4>Jared Goff of the Moan Ross Saint Brown is a

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<v Speaker 4>good example. Like they take average quarterbacks and all of

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<v Speaker 4>a sudden turn them into quarterbacks that look very viable

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<v Speaker 4>and useful at an NFL level. And Daniel Jones is

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<v Speaker 4>the best wide receiver he's thrown to. Is what Darius Slayton,

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<v Speaker 4>Wandel Robinson broken down last year of his career, Darren Waller,

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<v Speaker 4>so like I think Malik Neighbors could be better than

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<v Speaker 4>anyone he's ever thrown to and really revitalized this offense

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<v Speaker 4>and now expectations like if Jones finish his top fifteen,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a really good year for him. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>ready to leave Daniel Jones like like leave him for

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<v Speaker 4>dead and say that there's no absolutely no shot he

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<v Speaker 4>could get back to looking fantasy viable.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I give you a end of career Golden Tate

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<v Speaker 1>as maybe the best receivers all of those out of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Wall I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not trying to sit here and say that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, late career Golden Tate is what we expect

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<v Speaker 1>from Elie Neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like going through trying to figure out who was the

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<v Speaker 1>best receiver that he's starting. It's it's bad and yeah

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<v Speaker 1>that that might be it there. I do think there's

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<v Speaker 1>something about the rushing upside. Right, he ran for seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards. He also had seven rushing touchdowns, which that

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<v Speaker 1>number feels hard for.

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<v Speaker 2>Him to do. Yeah, so I think that's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>sort of working against him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he gets seven touchdowns and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to get back to you know, his rookie

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<v Speaker 1>year he had twenty four touchdown passes. He's got to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to something closer to that if he's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you the rushing upside. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>say it's possible. I am not banking on it, but

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<v Speaker 1>where he's getting drafted, you know, it's worth a dart throw, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's worth a dart throw. That's that's about. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say about that. Into the go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh, let's just say Darren Waller real quick, Caitlin

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<v Speaker 4>Clark was cooking Kelsey Plumb at the at the you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, sometimes he taking shots. Sometimes it's the small victories.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going through, man victory. Sometimes it's the small victories.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta buy his album now, Man, I check it out,

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<v Speaker 1>see if it's on Spotify.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably. Let's dive into the AFC North in a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>take a break, come back and reset.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast a

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<v Speaker 1>FC North. It is going to be just a battle

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<v Speaker 1>all throughout. You got four teams who are very much

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<v Speaker 1>in contention for playoff spots. This year is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how things shake out. As always, we

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<v Speaker 1>go through these in alphabetical orders, So we start with

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<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Ravens. Their top scores from last year. Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson three hundred and thirty one Fantasy points. That was

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<v Speaker 1>QB four worthy. Gus Edwards their top running back one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty seven points. He was the RB twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>He is eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Flowers was the top wide receiver at two six point

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<v Speaker 1>four Wide receiver thirty one, and Mark Andrews tight in

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen one thirty five point four for him in a

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<v Speaker 1>season that saw him battle some injuries off season. They

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<v Speaker 1>lose Odell Beckham Junior, they lose Gus Edwards, and they

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<v Speaker 1>lose JK. Dobbins, but they do sign El Tractorcito himself,

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<v Speaker 1>Derrick Henry, and they draft devontees Walker later in that draft.

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<v Speaker 1>First raven off the board right now is Za Flowers

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<v Speaker 1>of an ADP of thirty six.

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<v Speaker 2>So Florio.

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<v Speaker 1>Rarely, I keep saying this, rarely do we actually get

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that we as a community all where. But

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<v Speaker 1>it happened with Derrick Henry going from Tennessee to Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>to play in that backfield with Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's excited. We're all like double digit touchdowns for sure. Yay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how things go when everybody in the community

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<v Speaker 1>believes in something, when we really are hoping for and

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<v Speaker 1>we are all like in lockstep with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it possible we're too hyped about Dereck Henry right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it possible? Yes, because I believe you always have

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<v Speaker 4>to look at things any range of possibilities. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's a really small chance that he busts this year.

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<v Speaker 4>The all like, outside of injuries, and I think you

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<v Speaker 4>could say that about all players, like I would be

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<v Speaker 4>shocked if Derrick Henry stayed healthy and just busted because

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<v Speaker 4>this is the best offense he's played on in his career.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the best quarterback he's played on. This is

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be the first time in his life since literally

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<v Speaker 4>probably ever since he's ever stepped on a football field.

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't believe me, go watch this guy's high

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<v Speaker 4>school highlights. Every coach that he has faced in the

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<v Speaker 4>last two decades has game planned around stopping him, and

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<v Speaker 4>they said, if you stop him, you stop their team

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<v Speaker 4>for the first time ever. You can't say that because

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<v Speaker 4>he's playing with a two time MVP there so, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's playing in a heavy run system. Last year fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>touchdowns from five yards or closer for Ravens running backs

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<v Speaker 4>just running too. I think he could stumble into twelve

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<v Speaker 4>touchdowns this year. I think fifteen is very realistic. I

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<v Speaker 4>think if things break right, he could approach twenty. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in on Derrick Henry.

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<v Speaker 2>But not only that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when we get to now we're getting to

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<v Speaker 4>redrafts time, I think he's firmly going to be a

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<v Speaker 4>second round pick, maybe even middle to early second round pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously I like him a lot more in round three,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think that's an appropriate value for Dereck Henry

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<v Speaker 4>and probably where he should be going. So as long

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<v Speaker 4>as we get him at that coll so cheaper, I

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<v Speaker 4>will continue to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be in I love looking at that.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets tweeted out every so often of his stats

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<v Speaker 1>from his senior year of high school, and like every

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<v Speaker 1>game it's like two something and he's got like five

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<v Speaker 1>or six touchdowns except one game, one game late in

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<v Speaker 1>the season against East Gaston where he was held I

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<v Speaker 1>air quotes, held to one hundred and eighty nine rushing

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<v Speaker 1>yards and just one touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Beast.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they won that game sixteen thirteen. They just barely

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<v Speaker 1>hung on and won that game. So I'm like, I'm wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>like something happened that he maybe roll an ankle or

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<v Speaker 1>something like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like he was felt bad everybody. Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he just felt sorry for them so he just took

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<v Speaker 2>it easy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That always cracks me up. I mean, Lakwan, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest you would be willing to take Derrick Henry?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Me man, I'm look, he's sitting in that third round,

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<v Speaker 3>But I will honestly be confident in taking him in

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<v Speaker 3>that second round. If we're going to iron out all

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<v Speaker 3>these details about the Ravens offense. I mean, they had

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<v Speaker 3>the second most red zone drive. So we already know

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<v Speaker 3>this is a high power offense that's going to create

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of scoring opportunities. And they had a franchise

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<v Speaker 3>record last year of twenty six rush touchdowns. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Henry and Lamar are going to clear that. And I

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<v Speaker 3>say Lamar, I don't think he's going to be heavily

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<v Speaker 3>used obviously in their goal line areas. But you don't

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<v Speaker 3>really have to worry about that with Dereck Henry because honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>Lamar only has eight rushing touchdowns, less than Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 3>who has ten since twenty eighteen on goal line carry.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm looking at this as a huge plus for

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<v Speaker 3>Dereck Henry. So I agree fellas, like we're probably staring

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<v Speaker 3>at twenty touchdowns by the time it's like week sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Once he touchdowns by week sixteens, that means he still

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<v Speaker 1>has potentially one more game toasts to turn it up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's spicy. I Look, I love Derreck Henry. I'm willing

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<v Speaker 1>to take that second round shot on him for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Man funny though that seems it seems crazy, but look,

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<v Speaker 3>moster did twenty one total touchdowns last year. I mean,

0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Derek Henry could do it. He's gonna throw for one.

0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 3>I guarantee he throws one.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, all right, he's gonna throw one. It's going to

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:55.040
<v Speaker 2>be such vintage.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got to have at least five passing touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>In his career, right, Oh man, we got to see now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good thing, good thing for the Google that

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<v Speaker 1>allows us to go and look for these sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>He has four, no, four passing touchdowns in his career,

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<v Speaker 1>including two last year. He's got five if you count

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. Okay, there you go, and there's five. There's

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:22.919
<v Speaker 1>five passing touchdowns there, there is.

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<v Speaker 2>Lukwan. How much do we believe in Zay Flowers?

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<v Speaker 1>And are there any other receivers in Baltimore that you're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to kind of take us swing at it?

0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:35.960
<v Speaker 3>He's always been like a good flex for me. I

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 3>really haven't been like two on the Baltimore Ravens like

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 3>wide receivers because we really only get one relevant one

0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.600
<v Speaker 3>at least dating back to you know, to Lamar Era.

0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we have never seen two wide receivers to

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<v Speaker 3>have fifty plus receptions or average ten Fantasy points per game.

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Like it's either one or the other. Like I really

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 3>feel as though the second option of wide receivers in

0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 3>the Baltimore offensive really is almost non existent. So Zay

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Flowers is one of those guys that I don't see

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 3>him having a huge bike weeks. He'll have a good

0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 3>service amount of numbers of like I guess, let's say

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<v Speaker 3>twelve Fantasy points per game. I can see him finishing out.

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 3>But this offense is gonna be such a run heavy

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:18.399
<v Speaker 3>offense to where like I can kind of see him

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 3>getting sprinkled in with some rushing attents, maybe some jet sweeps,

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.120
<v Speaker 3>et cetera, et cetera, just trying to find more waste

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 3>to get him in the end zone. But the dude

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.719
<v Speaker 3>really didn't have, you know, this pace to even hit

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<v Speaker 3>a thousand yards if we're going to be honest. So

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.120
<v Speaker 3>it's like, when it comes to Baltimore wide receivers, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>kind of out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like Artie wants to be excited about Zay Flowers,

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like there's just kind of a cap

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>on production from Baltimore wide receivers generally. And I think

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 1>now especially you know, we just spent how many minutes

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 1>waxing poetic about Derrick Henry. You know that would seem

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 1>to bode poorly. Also, the fact that Mark Andrews is

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.400
<v Speaker 1>back healthy again just doesn't seem to really bode well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know that I've drafted a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of z Flowers. I think I may have stacked him

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times with with Lamar Jackson, but I

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Just something about it just sort of leaves

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<v Speaker 1>me wanting more. Anybody else there that you're interested in Florio,

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:17.119
<v Speaker 1>any other Baltimore receivers you have any interest in non.

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<v Speaker 4>Martin And we're talking real late in drafts. But Devon

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<v Speaker 4>says Walker, I like him a good amount, like as

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<v Speaker 4>the best ballflyer and stuff. Probably redraft, someone you leave

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:31.640
<v Speaker 4>on your waiver wire, but a name to write down

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 4>to keep an eye on, because he is a he's

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 4>a briner four three sixty. I believe he ran, He's

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.720
<v Speaker 4>excellent downfield. He was brought here to be this big

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 4>play threat for Baltimore, which I think a lot of

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 4>us wanted Rashad Bateman to become and it just hasn't

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 4>happened yet. And I think Bateman could potentially early on

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 4>Seymour snaps. But if Walker hits, I would not be

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 4>surprised at all if he steals that job and becomes

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.680
<v Speaker 4>the primary X for Lamar Jackson. We're talking about a

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 4>guy you get in the seventeenth, eighteenth round. So yeah,

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 4>he's the only other one I've been taking. I haven't

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.719
<v Speaker 4>really taken shots on Mark Andrews or Jay Flowers because

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 4>I really like the talent of Zay Flowers. I agree

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 4>with everything that both of you guys said, but I

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 4>do also think there's a chance that Jay Flowers can

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 4>take over as the number one target here. Mark Andrews,

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<v Speaker 4>about to be twenty nine years old, already wasn't earning

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<v Speaker 4>targets at a super high rate last year, so and

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 4>Flowers actually was out earning him and when they were

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<v Speaker 4>out there on the field together in a target sense.

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.679
<v Speaker 4>So I think it's possible that either one of them

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<v Speaker 4>could be the top target for Lamar, and you have

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<v Speaker 4>to pay a premium price to get him. So I

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 4>typically don't draft either.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, because since we're talking about Mark Andrews here,

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>for either of you, is Isaiah likely?

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Is he worth it? Late round? Okay, there you go. Yeah, yeah,

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I'll have to say the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, definitely, one of my most drafts the tight ends

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 4>actually really oh okay, because outside the top twenty, and

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:10.400
<v Speaker 4>let's remember what this guy was when Mark Andrews went down.

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 4>He was a top ten tight end that was consistent

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 4>every single week. Now, it might take an injury to

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 4>Mark Andrews to get that again. But we're talking about

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:21.880
<v Speaker 4>how bad these wide receivers are after his eight flowers,

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 4>who what's to stop them from saying, hey, let's get

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 4>likely out there on the field. As much as we

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 4>can run two tight end sets, put one of them

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 4>in the slots something like that. So look, we're talking

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.439
<v Speaker 4>best ball outside the top twenty tight ends. I take

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 4>a lot of shots on him.

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, look, he averaged twelve fantasy points for

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<v Speaker 3>a game and had five touchdowns in the last seven

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 3>games when Andrews went out, and he actually had the

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 3>second second highest target share on the team. So it's

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 3>not like he's going in half in the work for

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 3>to get the targets. Lamar is going to be looking

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 3>for him, and most of the shots he was taken

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 3>with him for those touchdowns were downfield. So I look

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 3>at this as like a clear plug and play. If

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Andrews was to miss time at any point. So, just

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<v Speaker 3>like Lareo said, he's probably like my second or third

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 3>most drafted tight end behind John new Smith because of

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 3>John Newsmith season. But we're gonna leave that for another episode.

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<v Speaker 3>But I really like Isaiah likely Man. I do like

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 3>him as a player all around. I would love if.

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>The Ravens would use more too tight end sets in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of percentage of plays.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 2>Good they were. There are only three teams that that

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>did it less by percentage.

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 4>Get Baitman off the fields and get likely.

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Are you are you part of Wait? Are you part

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 2>of the you were shot Bateman Hive? Absolutely not.

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 3>But I don't want our d N to be on.

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Fire at this Oh.

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, I thought, I thought what I

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>was learning something? Did you go guys the dream? I

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>thought I was just learning something about Lakwan right now? No, Nope, nope,

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>other than he just doesn't want his dms to be

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.919
<v Speaker 1>on fire, which no, because a reasonable a reasonable statement.

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, their top scorer Joe Burrow in an injury

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 1>riddled year one hundred and forty seven point one points

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>QB twenty five. Joe Mixon was your RB six two

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty seven points. Jamar Chase the top scoring

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver in Cincy. He was wide receiver eleven overall

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixty two point seven points.

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Tanner Hudson, Tanner Hudson.

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Your top scoring tight end, And I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>had quizzed anyone, I would say ninety eight percent of

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>people would not have been able to tell you that.

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I would have been one of those people. Tanner Hudson

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>your top scoring tight end in Cincinnati. He was tied

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>in twenty six eighty point two points. Off season, some

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>of the big losses Joe Mixon, who is in Houston.

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>We talked about earlier, Tyler Boyd. As they go out

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and make some moves back. One of those moves was

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to draft Jermaine Burton. They also added Zach Moss in

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>free agency, no surprise. First Bengal off the board is

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase ADP of four point two. So if he

0:28:54.480 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>somehow falls to you at five, consider yourself lucky. First question, Floria,

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>how much do you believe in Zach Moss? And associated question,

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>are you a believer at all? In Chase Brown?

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 4>I think at where they're going, they're both fine shots.

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 4>To take. I think Brown is obviously more explosive and

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 4>potentially could be a little bit more utilized in the

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 4>passing game. But Zach Moss is the one I like

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 4>more because Zach Moss is also a good receiver. He

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 4>is going to be the early down back. I think

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 4>I believe he'll be the goal line back there. And

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 4>we saw last season when Jonathan Taylor got hurt, Zach

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 4>Moss put up RB I know this late in the

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 4>season he disappointed when Taylor was out, but early on

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 4>he was putting up RB one numbers. So I think

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 4>Brown is what he is at this point, which is

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 4>like a change of pace. Come in, big play guy,

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 4>but you can't run a whole backfield through him. I

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 4>think Massel will see a lot of volume. But again,

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 4>you get Zach Moss in the eighth round and what

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Brown in like the ninth, tenth rounds. So both of

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 4>them are are up side shots we're taking in their

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 4>best ball adp. I do continue to believe that we're

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 4>gonna see running backs heavily get pulled up the board

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 4>once we shift to redraft. But for right now, where

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 4>they're going, I love them.

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you feel like, are you a

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Chase Brown guy at all? The kwan uh?

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 3>It's an interesting backfield to be honest, Like, it's one

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 3>of those things I haven't really ironed out to honestly,

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, have the right expectations for Zach masson Chase Brown,

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 3>and like they're not heavily expensive and hopefully in drafts

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 3>they don't get pulled up because of training camp noise.

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 3>But it's more so, how is this workload gonna be split?

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Because we know Chase Brown can kind of be likely

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 3>the past catching back and then you can see a

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 3>lot of goal line opportunities for Zach Moss. But my

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 3>worry is that, you know, maybe the Bengals may throw

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 3>a lot more in the red zone now with their

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 3>new toy with Jermaine Burton. So I feel like they

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 3>run a lot of three wide receiver sets, So there's

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 3>gonna be opportunities in that red zone that you know,

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 3>maybe Joe Burrow fades it out or finds another situation,

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, dump it off to Zach Moss. But honestly,

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 3>I think it's gonna be a little bit of like

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 3>you need to have your expectations and make sure your

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 3>roster build like You're not getting either one of these

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 3>guys as your RB one, so you just have to

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 3>have a nice little one to two punch and these

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 3>guys can fill in as your RB three, RB four,

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 3>So just have your expectations in order when drafting these guys.

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I will say that I'm I'm a little bit part

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>of the Chase Brown hive. I'm not like necessarily super

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>carrying the banner for him, but I do think let's go.

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a bigger year coming. I mean, I

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>think I do think that anybody who goes really heavy

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>on Zach Moss is going to be frustrated.

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I do think that because I also set

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 2>the break out.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I kind of think that Zach Moss is a

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 3>product of like how the Colts O line was as well,

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of those you know, in between the

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 3>tackles that he was able to have those breaks. But

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 3>I feel like we've always known that the Bengals O

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 3>line has kind of been beat up the last couple

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 3>of years, but they've been investing, you know, since trying

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 3>to keep Joe Burrow healthy. But ultimately this offense is

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 3>going to come down to Burrow staying healthy at the

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 3>end of the day as.

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, Uh, Florida, what are expectations for for T Higgins

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>this Year's like, you know, we haven't talked besides him

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>in his contract situation.

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we haven't talked about him a lot.

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 4>I think T Higgins is one of the more undervalued

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 4>wide receivers right now.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 2>His ADP, he's.

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 4>Going like barely in the top thirty wide receivers if

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 4>I haven't correct, Yeah, wide receiver twenty nine right now.

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I know last year was bad. The year prior to

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 4>that he was wide receiver twenty in points per game,

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 4>nineteen and overall points. The year before that he was

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 4>wide receiver thirteen in points per game, twenty four in

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 4>total points. So I believe as long as Higgins and

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 4>Burrows stay healthy, you are drafting Higgins probably below his floor.

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 4>The floor is injury, and I get it. He's on

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 4>a one year deal, franchise tag. He wants to get paid,

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 4>so maybe if he gets banged up, he doesn't play.

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 4>But let's also remember, like I really like Jamaine Burton.

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 4>He's one of my favorite sleepers this year. He is

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 4>still a rookie wide receiver. They lost Tyler Boyd, who

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 4>Joe Burrow greatly trusted they lost Joe Mixon. I think

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 4>it's possible we see and a greater emphasis on getting

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 4>these two stud wide receivers the ball as much as possible.

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 4>And T Higgins has proven to us he could be

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 4>a high end wide receiver two, even opposite of Jamar Chase.

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 4>Yet you're drafting him as a wide receiver three. So

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm actually this week gonna be working on the top

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 4>ten values, an article that I'm gonna write for NFL

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 4>dot com top ten values at the wide receiver position,

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 4>and T Higgins, I'm almost positive is going to be

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 4>in my top ten values.

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you mentioned that it wasn't a good year

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>for him, but you also you know, I think you

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>pointed out rightly that I think a lot of that

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>was connected to having a quarterback who wasn't healthy. Yeah,

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I just I think everybody has sort of been you know,

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>we're either you're going big and you're paying up for

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase, or everybody sort of feels like, well, I'll

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>just wait and I'll take that shot on Jermaine Burton.

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious as to how this changes when we get

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to redraft season. Right now, now that we're in redraft season,

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>if people sort of want the the more week to

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>week consistency and what you know with T Higgins versus

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, the potential unknown of a Jermaine Burton and

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what's happening there.

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 2>So just yeah, I don't know, I like it. I

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 2>just feel like we haven't talked about him enough.

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, real quick, like T Higgins. So he played the

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 4>first four games, That's when Joe Burrow was awful. Joe

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Burrow's breakout game last year came Week five. Higgins was inactive.

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 4>The next game, he played just about half the snaps

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.760
<v Speaker 4>did game after that he got two thirds of the snaps.

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Then Joe Burrow and T.

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 4>Higgins clicking on all cylinders. He went eight for one

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 4>hundred and ten. Then he missed the next three games,

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 4>and then Joe Burrow was gone for the season. I

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 4>would argue we saw one game last year where Joe

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 4>Burrow and T. Higgins were both fully healthy, and in

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 4>that game to Higgins eight Yeah. No, I mean, I look,

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 4>I think he's still a good receiver.

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I think we've just sort of kind of been clouded

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>by what happened this offseason.

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Completely right now, Mike Gsicki is going as the tight end.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean he is basically free in drafts la Quan

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>so at that ADP smash or pass pass.

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not going to ski man. He's not one

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 3>of those late round guys that I want to have

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 3>any interest in because back to back seasons he had

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 3>less than four hundred receiving yards. I don't know if

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 3>teams are not really understanding how to utilize him when

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 3>we did get on that high training. But I think

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 3>more so like he's not a guy that I'm really

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 3>interested in because the Bengals have not had a tight

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 3>end surpassed five hundred receiving yards since twenty twenty and

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 3>no more than nine fantasy fantasy points per game either

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 3>since twenty twenty. So it's like there's no real like

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 3>upside for me to go out there and be like, yeah,

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.479
<v Speaker 3>I got Mike Koseki in like the twentieth round, all.

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, But but hear me out on this, right, because

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>last year everything was a mess in New England, right, yeah,

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback situation, everything was a complete mess in New England.

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Nobody was going to succeed there the year before that,

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>those last couple of years in Miami, or at least

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>the last year in Miami. You know, they tried a

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>different thing with the offense. They were using him previously

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>as a big slot receiver. Then Mike McDaniel's like, I'm

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna make you an actual tight end. I remember the

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>comments of like I have to learn how to play

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>tight end and that you know that that sort of

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>happened out on him all year. Then yes, yeah, right,

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like that sort of had me out on

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>him although he had what he had five touchdowns last year,

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>even despite all that, Now he's in an offense where

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>they're going to use him to his pass catching potential,

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Like they're not gonna ask him, I think to block

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot sweens go out and run routes and

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>catch the football. And he's got a good quarterback, Like

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling you he's gonna go out here and

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>get you seven eight hundred yards. But for that price,

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it feels I'm I'm willing to take

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>the chance to take the risk on it.

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 4>With that, I'm with you because, like so I said earlier,

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 4>isaa likely one of my most late round targets. I

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 4>agree with leakwan On, John new Smith, and Mike Aseki's

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 4>my other one. Those are the three because Kiseki set

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 4>the moment they signed him and let Tyler Boyd walk,

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 4>I was like, he could be the new time in

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 4>this offense. Like, he is not a tight end, he

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 4>is a slot receiver. So it depends on how one

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 4>If if all three of their top wide receivers stay healthy,

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 4>that that will ding his value, and if they all

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 4>are on the field consistently, that will ding his value.

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 4>But I do think there's a good chance that we

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 4>see Kaseki heavily utilized in the slot, and I think

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 4>there's a shot he could be the best tight end

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 4>that Joe Burrow has played with.

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's probably not terrible. That's not a crazy thing

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>to say, but also probably speaks to the tight ends

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>that it's more that's been through there.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:34.480
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0:37:56.320 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Football Podcast. The Cleveland Browns a riddle wrapped inside and

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>enigma stuffed inside. A mystery when it comes to actual football,

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 1>but in fantasy we sort of knew what was going

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 1>on last year. Top fantasy scorers, it was Joe Flacco

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>who was your top scoring fantasy quarterback. Before you get

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.359
<v Speaker 1>too excited, he was the QB thirty four, one hundred

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and ten point eight points, but he been in a

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 1>short amount of time, so we'll give him that.

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 2>To his credit.

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson in case you were curious, with the QB

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven eighty six point eight points. Jerome Ford ended

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.359
<v Speaker 1>up being your top scoring running back in Cleveland, of course,

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>after the horrible knee injury to Nick Chubb. Two andred

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>and eleven points for Ford, RB sixteen, Amari Cooper your

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>top wide receiver to twenty seven for him. That was

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>good for wide receiver twenty and David Joku. The Chief

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 1>came to life late in the season, thanks in part

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:52.439
<v Speaker 1>to Joe Flacco tight end six two six point four

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the fantasy points for him. Key losses well, Joe Flacco,

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 1>who is now in Indianapolis as the back up to

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Richardson, because of course, you know you want a

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>quarterback who does the same things as Anthony Richardson, So

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>why not Joe Flacco and key additions. They did make

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a trade to bring in Jerry Judy to bolster the

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver corps. Amari Cooper your first Brown drafted of

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 1>an ADP of forty. So Lakwan will start with you,

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>what do you expect for Deshaun Watson in twenty twenty four,

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Because let's be honest, it has not been great. It

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 1>has been very ungod native for Deshaun Watson in Cleveland

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>so far.

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that the rust is off.

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 3>He could stay healthy, get into training camp and just

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 3>have a breath of fresh air and kind of get

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 3>this offense to be able to move downfield. They gave

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 3>him a good separator in Jerry Judy, So my whole

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 3>expectations of this offense to kind of look a lot

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 3>better than it did last year. To start off, I mean,

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 3>you look at the first three games, he had two interceptions.

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 3>But in that last game against Tennessee, he actually kept

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 3>a clean sheet with one hundred and twenty three passer rating,

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 3>So you're hoping to keep that momentum. And then the

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 3>very next game that's when he suffered the injury. So

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 3>it's like, if we can get a healthy Deshaun Watson

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 3>the game momentum, I think this offense can actually go

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 3>downfield and create some scoring opportunities. So I'm Marii Cooper,

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 3>Jerry Judy, even David Nijok, who has a big tight

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 3>end threat, he is in that red zone. Like I know,

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 3>we all want the chief to be back in the

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 3>conversation of the top five tight end. So I think

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 3>Deshaun Watson ultimately, it will just have to come down

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 3>to health for this Browns offense to succeed.

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.320
<v Speaker 4>You're willing to draft Watson at all, Florio, I haven't,

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 4>but I've started to reconsider. I I was on a

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 4>show like a week ago with Lawrence Jackson, and he

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 4>pointed out that Watson's best game of the year was

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 4>his final game, the one against the Ravens, where he

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:46.399
<v Speaker 4>completed every pass in the second half and led them

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 4>to victory. Dropping over thirty points against what was the

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 4>best defense in football last year, who made a bunch

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 4>of really good quarterbacks look like mortals. So maybe that

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 4>was him starting to turn it together. But one thing

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.399
<v Speaker 4>I do think that gets overlooked with Deshaun Watson as

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 4>bad as he was last year, and we were harping

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:11.360
<v Speaker 4>on that a lot, eighteen or more fantasy points in

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.320
<v Speaker 4>three of his full five games that he played, largely

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 4>because of rushing touchdowns. But with Nick Chubb hurt, maybe

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:20.319
<v Speaker 4>we see him use near the goal line a little

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 4>bit more. The fact that he's cheaper than ever and

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 4>you could get him at what something like QB twenty two. Uh,

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 4>maybe I need to change my stance of it, because

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 4>I do think there's still some up. I know we

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 4>haven't seen it in years, and I don't think he's

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna get back to what he was with the Texans,

0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 4>but like somewhere in the middle would still be a

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 4>lot better than what we've seen as of late.

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I don't know that I'm willing to

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 2>take the swing on Watson.

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just sort of hoping that he's not a disaster

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>for the sake of the pieces around him.

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:53.439
<v Speaker 4>You know, you don't.

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't need to be great for like guys like

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper and David and Joku to succeed.

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 2>He just needs to not be awful. Yeah, that's all.

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 2>That's all.

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's kind of all I'm hoping for h

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 1>right now. Okay, So I'm gonna ask you, Lakwan, because

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I know you are drafting Nick Chubb.

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I said it on this showing. Both Floor and I

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 1>were like, hey, man, if we're wrong, then like, hey,

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>that's great. Like if he comes out, he balls out,

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 1>that's great. I'm not willing to do it, but no,

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, explain to me, because obviously you feel

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 1>like he's a value. I just I want you to

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 1>make your case to the people out there about why

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 1>they might want to consider drafting Nick Chubb.

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look at this. I honestly know he's gonna

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 3>start the season off on pup. But we're talking about

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 3>a guy that can lift a bus over his head.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 3>I've told you this multiple times, and then the very

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:46.320
<v Speaker 3>next day he's lifting like four hundred pounds. And I

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.240
<v Speaker 3>understand that there was like some analyzing of the video

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 3>where he had to put and shift different way on

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:54.479
<v Speaker 3>the different leg But I think more so, you're still

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.399
<v Speaker 3>gonna get Nick Chubb in those late rounds, so you're

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 3>not really gonna be facing any type of burn. He's

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 3>gonna be like your RB four or five and on

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 3>the back end of the season when it starts getting

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 3>cold and he hits that Captain America super juice and

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 3>he's back ready to go. You have a running back

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 3>that when he comes back to that room, there is

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.360
<v Speaker 3>no question. If it's a Deontay Former, if it's a

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Jerome Ford, it is Nick Chubb's backfield. And I would

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 3>love to have that type of attitude and have that

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 3>built of a running back just going into the playoffs.

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>So that is my case.

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Man, you're getting a freak athlete. You never bet against

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:28.280
<v Speaker 3>freak athletes.

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Is Captain America super Juice on the NFL's list of

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:37.720
<v Speaker 1>banned substances? Yes, I mean like I feel like Steve

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers would have been getting in like a letter in

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>his locker every single week for like a drug test.

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so, Floria.

0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Obviously everybody's drafting Amari Cooper. I don't think anybody has

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>a problem with that. Are there any other Browns receivers

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>after that? You would take a shot at No, I'm

0:43:57.719 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 1>not really doing the Jerry Judy thing.

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm not doing a more if the late Browns that

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 4>I target are running backs. Actually, like like, I think

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Deantay Foreman is a really good value for where you

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 4>get him. I got him in like the nineteenth round

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 4>of the scot Nice Wow, something like that. I like

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 4>jerrooam Ford, who goes around where Nick Chubb goes. So

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 4>if I'm going for late round Browns, it's typically running backs.

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair because I'm sitting here looking at

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the depth chart and like, I'm with you. I'm not

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 1>in Elijah Moore real nasty work, you know. I really

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I tried last year to get in on it, right

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:31.800
<v Speaker 1>because remember he was in New York with Flacco. You know,

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>they seem to have a good connection there. Flacco was

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of talking him up early, so I really tried

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 1>to hype him up and that that didn't work at all.

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 1>You got nothing out of Flacco. I'm with you, I

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>just you know, I don't know. I sort of like

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 1>go of the rope on Jerry Judy. I mean, looks

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Cedric Hillman, David Bell, Uh, you know, stop me when

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I stop me? When I say a name that you're

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna get excited about, Jamari Thrash, Jalen Darden.

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 4>Cedric Hillman is the one I would probably get most

0:44:58.320 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 4>excited about. But I'm not drafting.

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I mean David Bell and me have the

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 3>same birthday, so that works out.

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, that's cool.

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, random thing.

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where to go anywhere.

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Alright, that's cool. That's cool, all right, So I guess

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>where we go from there? It's Pittsburgh. We go to

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers. To round out our AFC North Preview Top

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three fantasy scorers. Kenny Pickett, who put up

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a grand total of one hundred and ten point two

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>points that was good for QB thirty one, Jalen Warren

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and Najee Harris, who I think two years in a

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>row now they have been back to backs. I feel

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 1>like it was like this last year. Warren's your RB

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:41.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty two one hundred ninety six point four points. Najie

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Harris was the RB twenty three one hundred and ninety

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>five point five. So basically what point nine points less

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:50.359
<v Speaker 1>than one point separated the two of them.

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.439
<v Speaker 2>George Pickens two hundred and eight point eight points.

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 1>He was wide receiver thirty Pat Fryarmouth your top tight

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 1>end tight end twenty nine seventy six point eight points

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 1>in a season where he was not completely healthy, So

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 1>that had a.

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Lot to do with it. There key losses.

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 1>They lose Deontay Johnson to the Carolina Panthers this offseason,

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>but they do pick up Van Jefferson and Cordero Patterson.

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I can still be a van

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Stan when it comes to Jefferson. I did. I tried

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 2>for years. I was a van Stan for you.

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 3>I was there with you, man, you already know. And

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 3>it's sad it never quite happened.

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 2>By the way.

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Cordero Patterson. I just got married, I

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>believe over the weekend. Okay, spillers saw the Steelers posting

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:33.760
<v Speaker 1>some some wedding photos. So congratulations to mister and missus Patterson.

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to you guys. First off the board, George

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Pickens an ADP of thirty eight point nine. All right,

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you gotta pick one whose backfield is it? Who is

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the RB one in Pittsburgh, Florio? Is it Najie Harris

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>or is it Jalen Warren.

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 4>In volume, it'll probably be Nase Harris, but I think

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 4>in production and in the one that I want to

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 4>target and draft, it's Jalen Warren. Warren last year was

0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 4>top six an explosive run rate, runs that win for

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 4>ten or more yards, runs that win for fifteen or

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:06.880
<v Speaker 4>more yards, run that went for twenty or more yards,

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 4>mistackles forced per tent yards after contact per a tenth

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 4>rush yards over expectation, and target share, which is the

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 4>huge thing because if he's seeing suppressed volume compared to

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 4>Naji Harrison, I do think Nause will be the guy

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.320
<v Speaker 4>that on early downs and stuff like that they'll rely on.

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 4>Warren could make up for the decrease and carries by

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 4>being a more explosive runner. And then you add in

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 4>that he's a better pass catcher and everything, and the

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 4>fact that maybe Arthur Smith surprises us and uses him

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:39.720
<v Speaker 4>near the goal line a little bit more than Pittsburgh

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 4>did last year. And so at an RB three price,

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 4>I think they're both appropriately priced, but I like Jalen

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Speaker 4>Warren a lot more.

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Who you got as the RB one look one, I'm

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:51.439
<v Speaker 2>gonna go Jaalen Warren.

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Things can get weird with Arthur smith I mean, honestly,

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 3>we've seen Tyler a jer last year getting utilized a

0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 3>lot more than we expected, so hopefully Warren can be

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 3>used the same. And these last two seasons, nobody has

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 3>a rush outside the tackles more than the Falcons, so

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 3>that's where Jalen Warren was really explosive and able to

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 3>get a lot of the production downfield. And also adding

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 3>that he's the better pass catcher as well. And you

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 3>have a Russell Wilson back there who had a twenty

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 3>six percent oh I'm sorry, a twenty nine percent running

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 3>back target share as well, which was the highest. And

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 3>we got to understand Arthur smith Man. He knows to

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:23.320
<v Speaker 3>get the ball to his wide receivers and to the

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 3>running backs that are explosive. I mean desmid Ritter was

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:28.400
<v Speaker 3>fourth last year and running back target percentage also, So

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 3>there is a little perfect marriage here where Jalen Warren

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 3>can be utilized at a high rate now and I

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 3>think it might end up being his backfield when it's

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 3>all said and done.

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I think Najie Harris is the RB one, but that's

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty much a name only, like it's a title. Yeah,

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think they are both the lead running

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>back if that makes sense, right, because they are going

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to be used in different ways. But we've seen the

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>last two years that the workload has been split fairly

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>evenly between the two of them. I mean, I think,

0:48:57.640 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I think we're back to back years

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:02.840
<v Speaker 1>of them finishing one spot behind the other when it

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>comes to fantasy totals at the end of the season.

0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>So I mean saying Najie Harris is the RB one

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>is basically like, yeah, he's the guy who's gonna be

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 1>on the field first when the offense comes out, you know, Like,

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 1>but I think either way, uh, they're gonna see similar numbers.

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I've taken Harris because at least early on, like his

0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 1>ADP was slightly better, but then when it has kind

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:26.240
<v Speaker 1>of flipped, then I've got I've gotten Najie Harris because

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess it's gonna be right. Floyda, are

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 1>we overlooking bad Firemouth? At tight end fourteen, he says

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 1>he's healthy. All the reports out of camp have been

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty glowing. Should we be buying in on him at

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>this point?

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I target him as my tight end one, uh,

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 4>or as like a high end tight end two drafts

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 4>where I don't love my stuff, Like if I miss

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 4>out on like Kincaid and Pits and I wait then

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:56.800
<v Speaker 4>on the position, prior Mouth is usually a name that

0:49:56.880 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm going after because you always hear like Russell Wilson

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 4>loves throwing to the tight end, especially in the red zone,

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:06.400
<v Speaker 4>and that has historically been true. Like it's not like

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.800
<v Speaker 4>a one or two year blip or whatever like this

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:11.720
<v Speaker 4>goes back to Jimmy Graham and Will Disley and stuff

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:16.360
<v Speaker 4>like that in Seattle. And then they don't have a

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:19.240
<v Speaker 4>clear cut number two guy, like it could be Van Jefferson,

0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 4>it could be Roman Wilson, it could be a couple

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 4>other different options they're throwing out there. So friar Mouth

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 4>easily could be the number two target in this offense,

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 4>behind only George Pickens. And I think he's getting disrespected

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 4>a little bit because of one, how poor the quarterback

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:40.719
<v Speaker 4>play was last year. But also remember he was like

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:42.839
<v Speaker 4>in and out of the lineup, banged up a bit.

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 4>So I just think it was a lost year for

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 4>Pat Frye mouton that in the Steelers system.

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I do think the biggest part of this

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:52.720
<v Speaker 1>is the fact that there isn't a clear cut second

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 1>target in this offense. You know, we all know George

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Pickens is gonna be that guy. I have not heard

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:02.680
<v Speaker 1>anything that gets you fired up about Roman Wilson so

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:06.399
<v Speaker 1>far this offseason. I mean, you know there are Look,

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 1>there was talks that maybe they'd be in on Brandon

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Ayuk if he was available.

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:11.839
<v Speaker 2>I think that I get it. I yuks a guy

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:13.880
<v Speaker 2>that most teams are going to take a shot at.

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 1>But I think the fact that these Steelers were very

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:20.239
<v Speaker 1>heavily attached to him, I think says a lot. You know,

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.800
<v Speaker 1>they're they're trying to make Van Jefferson their wide receiver

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:26.720
<v Speaker 1>too right now. I just I think that that bodes

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:28.440
<v Speaker 1>well for Friar with being able to get open and

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:30.400
<v Speaker 1>get some some targets there. And I do like the

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 1>point about Russell Wilson and the tide ends he could

0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:36.319
<v Speaker 1>just never keep one healthy. So I don't know if

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's just a coincidence thing, or

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:40.919
<v Speaker 1>if this is like Russell putting his dudes in harm

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:42.799
<v Speaker 1>with Harm's Way hospital balls.

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if he's if

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 2>he's you know, out there doing that. So I don't.

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, But speaking of Russell Wilson, he's

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the QB thirty, Justin Fields is the QB thirty two Lakwander,

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 1>either or both of those guys worth drafting.

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 3>I think Russell Wilson's a good QB two. I feel like,

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:02.760
<v Speaker 3>more so have your expectations and be ready to pivot

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 3>if he ends up getting benched. But I'm honestly going

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 3>into this season confident that Russell Wilson will go in

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 3>get the playbook down pack, and I do like the

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 3>weapons that they're trying to put around him. If the

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Brandon Aiyuk rumor is true and he gets Brandon Ayuk,

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:19.239
<v Speaker 3>I think we honestly see that ADP come up a

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 3>little higher than QB thirty. And I feel as though

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't that bad last year, Like he wasn't terrible.

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:27.320
<v Speaker 3>It's not like he had a Zach Wilson season or

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Kenny Pickett season. This is a huge upgrade for this

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.799
<v Speaker 3>offensive round. George Picken's going to be a lot more

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 3>attractive in drafts to go out and get. And we

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 3>just talked about Pat Fyromf. I mean, he's such a great,

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 3>big talent that never really had a chance to show

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 3>his full fantasy potential because of the QB plays. So

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.719
<v Speaker 3>we're all looking at these pieces, man, and the more

0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 3>I keep looking at their depth chart, the more I

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:50.080
<v Speaker 3>keep looking at their values and drafts. Like I'm kind

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:52.839
<v Speaker 3>of in on Steelers players at the price makes sense.

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 3>So definitely Russell Wilson.

0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, didn't you say you drafted Justin Fields

0:52:58.040 --> 0:52:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Floria at least in Best Ball a couple of times.

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:01.879
<v Speaker 4>Oh oh yeah, I take him everywhere. It's like QP

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 4>three in Best Ball because and then to be honest, like,

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna draft him in redraft because I do

0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 4>think Russell Wilson will start the year. But I'm much

0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 4>more interested in Justin Field started than Russell Wilson because

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.560
<v Speaker 4>I think Wilson is better for like George Pickens and

0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 4>Pat Fryer mood. So I'm cool taking those guys. But

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:23.840
<v Speaker 4>remember last year, like Wilson, he was someone that I

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 4>was putting like in the start sit a lot, and basically,

0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 4>if it was a good matchup, you were looking at

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:33.239
<v Speaker 4>somewhere like fifteen to maybe eighteen fantasy points, and if

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.239
<v Speaker 4>it was a bad matchup, you were getting something like

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:38.360
<v Speaker 4>thirteen to feel like most weeks he was sitting around

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen fantasy points, and that is so low and it's

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<v Speaker 4>a low floor. And one thing I've been thinking a

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<v Speaker 4>lot lately, and I could be wrong. I'm purely speculating here,

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<v Speaker 4>but I truly think if you asked Mike Tomlin, who's

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<v Speaker 4>better for a seventeen game season, it is Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 4>But who can you win you needed to win one game,

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<v Speaker 4>who would you choose? I think he would choose Justin

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<v Speaker 4>Fields because of the running ability, the ability to control

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<v Speaker 4>the clock and trust your defense. Then so I continue

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<v Speaker 4>to think that we could see a quarterback change at

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<v Speaker 4>some point, and Justin Fields is maybe the only quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>three ever. Uh and for fantasy purposes that we know

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<v Speaker 4>if he starts hop fun I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, that's sort of it, right. I think everybody is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the general attitude is if he plays, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to start him. It's just a question of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, will he play. I guess more of when

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<v Speaker 1>he will play, because I do think at some point

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to start this season. It's just a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of how long they will with Russ before they turned

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<v Speaker 1>things over to Fields.

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<v Speaker 3>Have them split man sixty forty every game that was

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<v Speaker 3>coming off the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be a disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it'd be great for us, but for the

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<v Speaker 1>actual Steelers offense, that would be a complete disaster for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I got on that, all right there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a look at the AFC North. Of course, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back with you on Wednesday. We'll take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at the NFC North as well, so stay tuned for that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then on Thursday we'll have another edition of the

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<v Speaker 1>cheat sheet.

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<v Speaker 2>Kung Fu Hustle. That is the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you know early because I think last week

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of reminded you late about Gladiator. Florio, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for reminding me. Right now, it's only an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half and a half. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like ninety minutes. Like you know, Gladiator is like a

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<v Speaker 1>solid two and a half hours. It's an enjoyable two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half hours. Yeah, I've got to say that

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<v Speaker 1>was worth it, but two and a half hours. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>this will be a little bit easier, So check that

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<v Speaker 1>out on Thursday as we get you another edition of

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<v Speaker 1>the cheat sheet. In the meantime, that'll do it for

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy,

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<v Speaker 1>safe and healthy, do good and live well, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you on Wednesday. Woo