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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Monday, July twenty second, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Welcome him to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. But we're

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Speaker 1: not quite in the best shape of our lives.

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Speaker 2: It's been your man, MG Marcus.

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Speaker 1: Grand joined by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones and well

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Speaker 1: one Happy Monday, gentlemen. But to LQ, I know you

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Speaker 1: are in the midst of sort of Good Morning Football

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Speaker 1: reboot rehearsals. You were up and in the office at

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Speaker 1: an ungodly hour.

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Speaker 2: How was that? It was good? It is a normal

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Speaker 2: shift for me. Man.

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Speaker 3: I like getting up early, to starting on my day

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Speaker 3: early and getting through it, you know. But the rehearsals

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Speaker 3: are going great.

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Speaker 2: Man. I love Akbar.

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Speaker 1: Akbar Barja Biamila is great. He's back on Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 1: For those of you who've been watching NFL Fantasy Live

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Speaker 1: for a number of years, you might remember him from that,

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Speaker 1: or you may know him from am I feel like

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Speaker 1: Troy McClure in The Simpsons.

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Speaker 2: You might remember me from such self help video.

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Speaker 1: You might remember him from either NFL Fantasy Live or

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Speaker 1: from American Ninja War, or he is back on Good

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Speaker 1: Morning Football. Big, big personality, really fun guy, great guy

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Speaker 1: to work with, so you get you get to have

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Speaker 1: that that that joy for you.

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Speaker 2: For you were out balling this morning, you were Jim Jones.

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Speaker 4: I joined an LA Fitness but they have a basketball court.

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Speaker 4: So all all this offseason, I've been getting getting some

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Speaker 4: shots in a few times a week, and usually I

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Speaker 4: go after the show, but this today we flipped the

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Speaker 4: show a little bit later, so I was like, you know,

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Speaker 4: I am also like Lakwan, an early riser, although I

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Speaker 4: will say there's a huge difference between like being awake

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Speaker 4: I'm almost always awake at that time. I hate being

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Speaker 4: at work at that time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's those are very much two different things. Also,

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Speaker 1: I love the client saying I like getting up early.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you have kids, you don't have a choice.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 1: So that's that is also to shout out to you, Floria,

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Speaker 1: because we did shift our shooting or our recording schedule around.

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Speaker 1: We're doing this in the midst of the USA's Olympic

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Speaker 1: warm up against Germany.

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Speaker 2: So now it's on right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're starting five Steph, Devin Booker, Drew Holliday, Lebron

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Speaker 1: and embiid are are you're starting five for this.

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 1: Like he's trying to find the TV next to his

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Speaker 1: doing that, I will let you know what we have

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Speaker 1: on the show today. We are continuing our division previews.

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Speaker 1: Today is the AFC North, which should be a really

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Speaker 1: intriguing division to watch just from a football perspective, also

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Speaker 1: a really intriguing division to watch my fantasy perspective, because uh,

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Speaker 1: there's some changes across the division and you know, some

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Speaker 1: some really intriguing teams, really intriguing pieces that we will

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Speaker 1: get into. But let's start, as we normally do around

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Speaker 1: this time, with some news and rumors. I include the

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Speaker 1: rumors part because we don't have any actual football going

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Speaker 2: CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud was asked about these skill positions on the Texans

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Speaker 1: offense and he said, quote, it's a five headed monster.

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Speaker 2: Which I don't know about you, Florio.

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Speaker 1: That immediately sort of made me queasy because it's again,

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Speaker 1: it's great for real football. You have so many options,

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Speaker 1: that means it gets a little bit harder to peg.

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Speaker 1: Who is the guy you want. So I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you who do you think will be the top scoring

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Speaker 4: Nico Collins. I think Joe Mixon is a fine pick

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Speaker 4: at running back, But Nico Collins, I don't believe is

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Speaker 4: going I'm sorry, c J. Stroud. I don't believe is

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Speaker 4: He keeps his eyes down field, man, and he looks

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Speaker 4: for every strike to throw the deep ball that he can.

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Speaker 4: The reason I like Nico Collins so much is because

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Speaker 4: I just have the most confidence in him getting the

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Speaker 4: But is he gonna be out there in two wide

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Speaker 4: So to me, I think he is the right combination

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, lakwan, are we are we overdrafting Texans

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Speaker 1: just because there are so many places to go? I

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Speaker 3: I am really worried, man. I think this offense will

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Speaker 3: will be exciting to watch the Texans and watching c J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud just drive downfield. Before a fantasy aspect of things,

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Speaker 3: we may be overdrafting some of these guys, like Tank

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Speaker 3: Dell is going in the third round right now in

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Speaker 3: it's like we have to account of him as well,

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Speaker 3: being that he was c J. Stroud's like best friend

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Speaker 3: Dordan training camp last year. So I really feel as

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Speaker 3: though this offense is going to be a lot of

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Speaker 3: frustration from fantasy managers. But let's just be happy that

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Speaker 2: Stroud. Hopefully that's the game plan for some.

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Speaker 3: Folks, because he is the biggest winner out of this

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Speaker 3: whole package where he can. Honestly, I can see him

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Speaker 3: the rushing upside. I just think this is gonna be

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Speaker 3: a high power offense, but gotta be realistic here. When

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Speaker 3: to Tank Dell and their ADPs, they're fairly closed. So

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Speaker 1: I think it was interesting you mentioned Dalton Schultz cause

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's the thing that we don't really

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Speaker 2: You know, we've talked about the Texans.

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Speaker 1: It's, you know, how do we separate Collins from Dell

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Speaker 2: It's the reason that I've drafted CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 1: I've taken some shots on Texans wide receivers, but this

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Speaker 1: feels like a quintessential they're better and best ball sort

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Speaker 1: of offense because that way you don't have to kind

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Speaker 2: You know, and deal.

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Speaker 1: Look, there's gonna be a week where Stefan Diggs probably

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Speaker 2: Then there's the backfield issue because Joe.

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Speaker 1: Mixon goes in there and seems to have a really

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Speaker 1: nice slot, but Florida over the weekend and they, I

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Speaker 2: Cam Acres is going to be a Houston Texan. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Right, like when it saw it immediately I text put

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Speaker 2: It was basically that like, wow, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, Florida, Can cam Akers be a thing in this

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Speaker 4: No, I don't know if Akers should be a thing

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Speaker 4: It's the same reason I feel about JK. Dobbins, Like

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Speaker 4: of this stuff adds up. Like listen, man, at some

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Speaker 4: And I'm fearful that we're getting to that point with Acres.

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Speaker 4: But it wasn't like that this just came out of

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Speaker 4: worked out a number of different running backs, which gives

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Speaker 4: me hope. And I've been saying this since the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 4: like they can move Damian Pierce potentially in August. There's

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Speaker 4: teams like the Cowboys like the Chargers that I think

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Speaker 4: would take Damian Pierce and make him an RB two

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Speaker 4: the Texans offense. I think he's a great fit for

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Speaker 4: an old scot old school like run between the tackles

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Speaker 4: physical style of play, which is what the Chargers might

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Speaker 4: do where the Cowboys could do. So that's why I'm

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Speaker 4: hopeful that he gets moved. And that was my biggest

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Speaker 4: takeaway from this cam Aker signing was like, maybe they

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Speaker 4: do move on from Damian Pierce and I continue to

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Speaker 4: draft him in like the seventeenth round of my best

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a good spot to get him.

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Speaker 1: I can't say that I drafted him really anywhere, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it was a conscious like I'm

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Speaker 1: staying away from him. I just didn't draft him at all.

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Speaker 1: You know where my heart is, I'm drafting Damien Piers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're still a Pierce believer, right, Yeah, I can't

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Speaker 3: He's going to be on special teams and I think

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Speaker 3: that's where he could be utilized more. I think he's

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Speaker 3: very explosive. We know that he's a downhill runner. He's

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Speaker 3: a guy that can take it to the house, like

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Speaker 3: he's an angry runner, Like come on, I really feel

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Speaker 3: as though he could be utilized properly. But Florio hit

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Speaker 3: hit it nail on the head. I just don't think

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Speaker 3: the system fits him because remember last year in camp,

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Speaker 3: he was watching CMC tapes trying to catch more passes,

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Speaker 3: and I think Joe Mixon fits more into that to

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Speaker 3: where I feel like, you know, Damian Piers has to

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Speaker 3: be on the move.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny.

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Speaker 1: I do remember like last year the articles, the headlines

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Speaker 1: about like you're trying to be more like Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I think I'm at a point where

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily fall for That's the.

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Speaker 4: Thing in the world, because no offense unless you are

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's good to watch and how this guy gets

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we gotta we gotta stop doing this, man,

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Speaker 2: It makes you a running back who catches the football.

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Speaker 4: Of years ago.

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Speaker 3: But I just think overall that just the passing production,

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Speaker 3: I know, you add Molik Neighbors, But you just lost

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Speaker 3: So it's like nothing really has gotten better out of

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows to cover Milik Neighbors. So that's not going

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Speaker 2: I disagree.

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Speaker 4: I think. Look, I'm not telling you to go out

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Speaker 4: I still trust Brian Dable. I know last year it

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Speaker 4: Dable as a play caller. I think we're forgetting how

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Speaker 4: Now that Nie could put that into question. But Darren Waller,

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Speaker 4: I was swinging a miss. He was so in and

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Speaker 1: Can I give you a end of career Golden Tate

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I was.

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Speaker 2: Him to do. Yeah, so I think that's the thing

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he gets seven touchdowns and you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, let's just say Darren Waller real quick, Caitlin

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Speaker 1: Know, sometimes he taking shots. Sometimes it's the small victories.

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Speaker 1: You gotta buy his album now, Man, I check it out,

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Speaker 1: This thing here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast a

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. Their top scores from last year. Lamar

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Speaker 1: Rarely, I keep saying this, rarely do we actually get

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Speaker 1: You know how things go when everybody in the community

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Speaker 4: The all like, outside of injuries, and I think you

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Speaker 4: This is the best quarterback he's played on. This is

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Speaker 2: Be in I love looking at that.

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Speaker 1: No, they won that game sixteen thirteen. They just barely

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Speaker 1: the earliest you would be willing to take Derrick Henry?

439
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Speaker 4: Oh?

440
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Speaker 3: Me man, I'm look, he's sitting in that third round,

441
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Speaker 3: But I will honestly be confident in taking him in

442
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Speaker 3: that second round. If we're going to iron out all

443
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Speaker 3: these details about the Ravens offense. I mean, they had

444
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 3: the second most red zone drive. So we already know

445
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 3: this is a high power offense that's going to create

446
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: a lot of scoring opportunities. And they had a franchise

447
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 3: record last year of twenty six rush touchdowns. I think

448
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 3: Henry and Lamar are going to clear that. And I

449
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Speaker 3: say Lamar, I don't think he's going to be heavily

450
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 3: used obviously in their goal line areas. But you don't

451
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 3: really have to worry about that with Dereck Henry because honestly,

452
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 3: Lamar only has eight rushing touchdowns, less than Tom Brady,

453
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 3: who has ten since twenty eighteen on goal line carry.

454
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Speaker 3: So I'm looking at this as a huge plus for

455
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 3: Dereck Henry. So I agree fellas, like we're probably staring

456
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 3: at twenty touchdowns by the time it's like week sixteen.

457
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Speaker 1: Once he touchdowns by week sixteens, that means he still

458
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Speaker 1: has potentially one more game toasts to turn it up.

459
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Speaker 1: That's spicy. I Look, I love Derreck Henry. I'm willing

460
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: to take that second round shot on him for sure,

461
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: for sure.

462
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 3: Man funny though that seems it seems crazy, but look,

463
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Speaker 3: moster did twenty one total touchdowns last year. I mean,

464
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Speaker 3: Derek Henry could do it. He's gonna throw for one.

465
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Speaker 3: I guarantee he throws one.

466
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, he's gonna throw one. It's going to

467
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: be such vintage.

468
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: He's got to have at least five passing touchdowns.

469
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Speaker 2: In his career, right, Oh man, we got to see now.

470
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: It's a good thing, good thing for the Google that

471
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Speaker 1: allows us to go and look for these sorts of things.

472
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Speaker 4: Ah.

473
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Speaker 1: He has four, no, four passing touchdowns in his career,

474
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Speaker 1: including two last year. He's got five if you count

475
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Okay, there you go, and there's five. There's

476
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 1: five passing touchdowns there, there is.

477
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Speaker 2: Lukwan. How much do we believe in Zay Flowers?

478
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Speaker 1: And are there any other receivers in Baltimore that you're

479
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Speaker 1: willing to kind of take us swing at it?

480
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 3: He's always been like a good flex for me. I

481
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 3: really haven't been like two on the Baltimore Ravens like

482
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 3: wide receivers because we really only get one relevant one

483
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 3: at least dating back to you know, to Lamar Era.

484
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: I mean, we have never seen two wide receivers to

485
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: have fifty plus receptions or average ten Fantasy points per game.

486
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: Like it's either one or the other. Like I really

487
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: feel as though the second option of wide receivers in

488
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: the Baltimore offensive really is almost non existent. So Zay

489
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: Flowers is one of those guys that I don't see

490
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: him having a huge bike weeks. He'll have a good

491
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: service amount of numbers of like I guess, let's say

492
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 3: twelve Fantasy points per game. I can see him finishing out.

493
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: But this offense is gonna be such a run heavy

494
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 3: offense to where like I can kind of see him

495
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: getting sprinkled in with some rushing attents, maybe some jet sweeps,

496
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, just trying to find more waste

497
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: to get him in the end zone. But the dude

498
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 3: really didn't have, you know, this pace to even hit

499
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: a thousand yards if we're going to be honest. So

500
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Speaker 3: it's like, when it comes to Baltimore wide receivers, I'm

501
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: kind of out.

502
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Artie wants to be excited about Zay Flowers,

503
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: but I feel like there's just kind of a cap

504
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: on production from Baltimore wide receivers generally. And I think

505
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: now especially you know, we just spent how many minutes

506
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: waxing poetic about Derrick Henry. You know that would seem

507
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: to bode poorly. Also, the fact that Mark Andrews is

508
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: back healthy again just doesn't seem to really bode well.

509
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that I've drafted a lot

510
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,239
Speaker 1: of z Flowers. I think I may have stacked him

511
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: a couple of times with with Lamar Jackson, but I

512
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: don't know. Just something about it just sort of leaves

513
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: me wanting more. Anybody else there that you're interested in Florio,

514
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: any other Baltimore receivers you have any interest in non.

515
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 4: Martin And we're talking real late in drafts. But Devon

516
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: says Walker, I like him a good amount, like as

517
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 4: the best ballflyer and stuff. Probably redraft, someone you leave

518
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 4: on your waiver wire, but a name to write down

519
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 4: to keep an eye on, because he is a he's

520
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 4: a briner four three sixty. I believe he ran, He's

521
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: excellent downfield. He was brought here to be this big

522
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 4: play threat for Baltimore, which I think a lot of

523
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: us wanted Rashad Bateman to become and it just hasn't

524
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 4: happened yet. And I think Bateman could potentially early on

525
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: Seymour snaps. But if Walker hits, I would not be

526
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 4: surprised at all if he steals that job and becomes

527
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 4: the primary X for Lamar Jackson. We're talking about a

528
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 4: guy you get in the seventeenth, eighteenth round. So yeah,

529
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 4: he's the only other one I've been taking. I haven't

530
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 4: really taken shots on Mark Andrews or Jay Flowers because

531
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 4: I really like the talent of Zay Flowers. I agree

532
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 4: with everything that both of you guys said, but I

533
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 4: do also think there's a chance that Jay Flowers can

534
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 4: take over as the number one target here. Mark Andrews,

535
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 4: about to be twenty nine years old, already wasn't earning

536
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 4: targets at a super high rate last year, so and

537
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 4: Flowers actually was out earning him and when they were

538
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: out there on the field together in a target sense.

539
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 4: So I think it's possible that either one of them

540
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: could be the top target for Lamar, and you have

541
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: to pay a premium price to get him. So I

542
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 4: typically don't draft either.

543
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: All right, Well, because since we're talking about Mark Andrews here,

544
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: for either of you, is Isaiah likely?

545
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: Is he worth it? Late round? Okay, there you go. Yeah, yeah,

546
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: I'll have to say the same thing.

547
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, one of my most drafts the tight ends

548
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 4: actually really oh okay, because outside the top twenty, and

549
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 4: let's remember what this guy was when Mark Andrews went down.

550
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 4: He was a top ten tight end that was consistent

551
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 4: every single week. Now, it might take an injury to

552
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 4: Mark Andrews to get that again. But we're talking about

553
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 4: how bad these wide receivers are after his eight flowers,

554
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: who what's to stop them from saying, hey, let's get

555
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 4: likely out there on the field. As much as we

556
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: can run two tight end sets, put one of them

557
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 4: in the slots something like that. So look, we're talking

558
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 4: best ball outside the top twenty tight ends. I take

559
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 4: a lot of shots on him.

560
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, he averaged twelve fantasy points for

561
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: a game and had five touchdowns in the last seven

562
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: games when Andrews went out, and he actually had the

563
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: second second highest target share on the team. So it's

564
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: not like he's going in half in the work for

565
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: to get the targets. Lamar is going to be looking

566
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: for him, and most of the shots he was taken

567
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: with him for those touchdowns were downfield. So I look

568
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: at this as like a clear plug and play. If

569
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: Andrews was to miss time at any point. So, just

570
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 3: like Lareo said, he's probably like my second or third

571
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: most drafted tight end behind John new Smith because of

572
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 3: John Newsmith season. But we're gonna leave that for another episode.

573
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: But I really like Isaiah likely Man. I do like

574
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 3: him as a player all around. I would love if.

575
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: The Ravens would use more too tight end sets in

576
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: terms of percentage of plays.

577
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: Good they were. There are only three teams that that

578
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: did it less by percentage.

579
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 4: Get Baitman off the fields and get likely.

580
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: Are you are you part of Wait? Are you part

581
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: of the you were shot Bateman Hive? Absolutely not.

582
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: But I don't want our d N to be on.

583
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: Fire at this Oh.

584
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I thought, I thought what I

585
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: was learning something? Did you go guys the dream? I

586
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: thought I was just learning something about Lakwan right now? No, Nope, nope,

587
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: other than he just doesn't want his dms to be

588
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: on fire, which no, because a reasonable a reasonable statement.

589
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: It's one of the Cincinnati Bengals.

590
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: Last year, their top scorer Joe Burrow in an injury

591
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: riddled year one hundred and forty seven point one points

592
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: QB twenty five. Joe Mixon was your RB six two

593
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven points. Jamar Chase the top scoring

594
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver in Cincy. He was wide receiver eleven overall

595
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty two point seven points.

596
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: Tanner Hudson, Tanner Hudson.

597
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: Your top scoring tight end, And I think if you

598
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: had quizzed anyone, I would say ninety eight percent of

599
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: people would not have been able to tell you that.

600
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: I would have been one of those people. Tanner Hudson

601
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: your top scoring tight end in Cincinnati. He was tied

602
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: in twenty six eighty point two points. Off season, some

603
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: of the big losses Joe Mixon, who is in Houston.

604
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: We talked about earlier, Tyler Boyd. As they go out

605
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: and make some moves back. One of those moves was

606
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: to draft Jermaine Burton. They also added Zach Moss in

607
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: free agency, no surprise. First Bengal off the board is

608
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase ADP of four point two. So if he

609
00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: somehow falls to you at five, consider yourself lucky. First question, Floria,

610
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: how much do you believe in Zach Moss? And associated question,

611
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: are you a believer at all? In Chase Brown?

612
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: I think at where they're going, they're both fine shots.

613
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: To take. I think Brown is obviously more explosive and

614
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 4: potentially could be a little bit more utilized in the

615
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 4: passing game. But Zach Moss is the one I like

616
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 4: more because Zach Moss is also a good receiver. He

617
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 4: is going to be the early down back. I think

618
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: I believe he'll be the goal line back there. And

619
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 4: we saw last season when Jonathan Taylor got hurt, Zach

620
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: Moss put up RB I know this late in the

621
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: season he disappointed when Taylor was out, but early on

622
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 4: he was putting up RB one numbers. So I think

623
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: Brown is what he is at this point, which is

624
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: like a change of pace. Come in, big play guy,

625
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 4: but you can't run a whole backfield through him. I

626
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: think Massel will see a lot of volume. But again,

627
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 4: you get Zach Moss in the eighth round and what

628
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 4: Brown in like the ninth, tenth rounds. So both of

629
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: them are are up side shots we're taking in their

630
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: best ball adp. I do continue to believe that we're

631
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 4: gonna see running backs heavily get pulled up the board

632
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: once we shift to redraft. But for right now, where

633
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: they're going, I love them.

634
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel like, are you a

635
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: Chase Brown guy at all? The kwan uh?

636
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: It's an interesting backfield to be honest, Like, it's one

637
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: of those things I haven't really ironed out to honestly,

638
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: you know, have the right expectations for Zach masson Chase Brown,

639
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: and like they're not heavily expensive and hopefully in drafts

640
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: they don't get pulled up because of training camp noise.

641
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: But it's more so, how is this workload gonna be split?

642
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: Because we know Chase Brown can kind of be likely

643
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: the past catching back and then you can see a

644
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: lot of goal line opportunities for Zach Moss. But my

645
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: worry is that, you know, maybe the Bengals may throw

646
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: a lot more in the red zone now with their

647
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: new toy with Jermaine Burton. So I feel like they

648
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: run a lot of three wide receiver sets, So there's

649
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: gonna be opportunities in that red zone that you know,

650
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: maybe Joe Burrow fades it out or finds another situation,

651
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: you know, dump it off to Zach Moss. But honestly,

652
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a little bit of like

653
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: you need to have your expectations and make sure your

654
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 3: roster build like You're not getting either one of these

655
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Speaker 3: guys as your RB one, so you just have to

656
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: have a nice little one to two punch and these

657
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: guys can fill in as your RB three, RB four,

658
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Speaker 3: So just have your expectations in order when drafting these guys.

659
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Speaker 1: I will say that I'm I'm a little bit part

660
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: of the Chase Brown hive. I'm not like necessarily super

661
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: carrying the banner for him, but I do think let's go.

662
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: I think there's a bigger year coming. I mean, I

663
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: think I do think that anybody who goes really heavy

664
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Speaker 1: on Zach Moss is going to be frustrated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I do think that because I also set

666
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Speaker 2: the break out.

667
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of think that Zach Moss is a

668
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: product of like how the Colts O line was as well,

669
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Speaker 3: like a lot of those you know, in between the

670
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Speaker 3: tackles that he was able to have those breaks. But

671
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Speaker 3: I feel like we've always known that the Bengals O

672
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: line has kind of been beat up the last couple

673
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Speaker 3: of years, but they've been investing, you know, since trying

674
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Speaker 3: to keep Joe Burrow healthy. But ultimately this offense is

675
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Speaker 3: going to come down to Burrow staying healthy at the

676
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Speaker 3: end of the day as.

677
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Speaker 1: Well, Uh, Florida, what are expectations for for T Higgins

678
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: this Year's like, you know, we haven't talked besides him

679
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: in his contract situation.

680
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: I feel like we haven't talked about him a lot.

681
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 4: I think T Higgins is one of the more undervalued

682
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 4: wide receivers right now.

683
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Speaker 2: His ADP, he's.

684
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Speaker 4: Going like barely in the top thirty wide receivers if

685
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Speaker 4: I haven't correct, Yeah, wide receiver twenty nine right now.

686
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Speaker 4: I know last year was bad. The year prior to

687
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 4: that he was wide receiver twenty in points per game,

688
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: nineteen and overall points. The year before that he was

689
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: wide receiver thirteen in points per game, twenty four in

690
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: total points. So I believe as long as Higgins and

691
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Speaker 4: Burrows stay healthy, you are drafting Higgins probably below his floor.

692
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Speaker 4: The floor is injury, and I get it. He's on

693
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: a one year deal, franchise tag. He wants to get paid,

694
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: so maybe if he gets banged up, he doesn't play.

695
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Speaker 4: But let's also remember, like I really like Jamaine Burton.

696
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: He's one of my favorite sleepers this year. He is

697
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 4: still a rookie wide receiver. They lost Tyler Boyd, who

698
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow greatly trusted they lost Joe Mixon. I think

699
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: it's possible we see and a greater emphasis on getting

700
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Speaker 4: these two stud wide receivers the ball as much as possible.

701
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Speaker 4: And T Higgins has proven to us he could be

702
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Speaker 4: a high end wide receiver two, even opposite of Jamar Chase.

703
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 4: Yet you're drafting him as a wide receiver three. So

704
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Speaker 4: I'm actually this week gonna be working on the top

705
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Speaker 4: ten values, an article that I'm gonna write for NFL

706
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Speaker 4: dot com top ten values at the wide receiver position,

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Speaker 4: and T Higgins, I'm almost positive is going to be

708
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Speaker 4: in my top ten values.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned that it wasn't a good year

710
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Speaker 1: for him, but you also you know, I think you

711
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Speaker 1: pointed out rightly that I think a lot of that

712
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Speaker 1: was connected to having a quarterback who wasn't healthy. Yeah,

713
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Speaker 1: I just I think everybody has sort of been you know,

714
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Speaker 1: we're either you're going big and you're paying up for

715
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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, or everybody sort of feels like, well, I'll

716
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Speaker 1: just wait and I'll take that shot on Jermaine Burton.

717
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Speaker 1: I'm curious as to how this changes when we get

718
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Speaker 1: to redraft season. Right now, now that we're in redraft season,

719
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Speaker 1: if people sort of want the the more week to

720
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Speaker 1: week consistency and what you know with T Higgins versus

721
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Speaker 1: you know, the potential unknown of a Jermaine Burton and

722
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's happening there.

723
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Speaker 2: So just yeah, I don't know, I like it. I

724
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: just feel like we haven't talked about him enough.

725
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Speaker 4: Yeah, real quick, like T Higgins. So he played the

726
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: first four games, That's when Joe Burrow was awful. Joe

727
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: Burrow's breakout game last year came Week five. Higgins was inactive.

728
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Speaker 4: The next game, he played just about half the snaps

729
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Speaker 4: did game after that he got two thirds of the snaps.

730
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Speaker 2: Then Joe Burrow and T.

731
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Speaker 4: Higgins clicking on all cylinders. He went eight for one

732
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 4: hundred and ten. Then he missed the next three games,

733
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Speaker 4: and then Joe Burrow was gone for the season. I

734
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 4: would argue we saw one game last year where Joe

735
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Speaker 4: Burrow and T. Higgins were both fully healthy, and in

736
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Speaker 4: that game to Higgins eight Yeah. No, I mean, I look,

737
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Speaker 4: I think he's still a good receiver.

738
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Speaker 1: I think we've just sort of kind of been clouded

739
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: by what happened this offseason.

740
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Speaker 2: Completely right now, Mike Gsicki is going as the tight end.

741
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean he is basically free in drafts la Quan

742
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: so at that ADP smash or pass pass.

743
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Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to ski man. He's not one

744
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: of those late round guys that I want to have

745
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: any interest in because back to back seasons he had

746
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: less than four hundred receiving yards. I don't know if

747
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: teams are not really understanding how to utilize him when

748
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: we did get on that high training. But I think

749
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: more so like he's not a guy that I'm really

750
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: interested in because the Bengals have not had a tight

751
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 3: end surpassed five hundred receiving yards since twenty twenty and

752
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: no more than nine fantasy fantasy points per game either

753
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: since twenty twenty. So it's like there's no real like

754
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: upside for me to go out there and be like, yeah,

755
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 3: I got Mike Koseki in like the twentieth round, all.

756
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Speaker 1: Right, But but hear me out on this, right, because

757
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: last year everything was a mess in New England, right, yeah,

758
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, everything was a complete mess in New England.

759
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: Nobody was going to succeed there the year before that,

760
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Speaker 1: those last couple of years in Miami, or at least

761
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: the last year in Miami. You know, they tried a

762
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: different thing with the offense. They were using him previously

763
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: as a big slot receiver. Then Mike McDaniel's like, I'm

764
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna make you an actual tight end. I remember the

765
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: comments of like I have to learn how to play

766
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Speaker 1: tight end and that you know that that sort of

767
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: happened out on him all year. Then yes, yeah, right,

768
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like that sort of had me out on

769
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Speaker 1: him although he had what he had five touchdowns last year,

770
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Speaker 1: even despite all that, Now he's in an offense where

771
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Speaker 1: they're going to use him to his pass catching potential,

772
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: Like they're not gonna ask him, I think to block

773
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: a whole lot sweens go out and run routes and

774
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: catch the football. And he's got a good quarterback, Like

775
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you he's gonna go out here and

776
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: get you seven eight hundred yards. But for that price,

777
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, it feels I'm I'm willing to take

778
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: the chance to take the risk on it.

779
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Speaker 4: With that, I'm with you because, like so I said earlier,

780
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Speaker 4: isaa likely one of my most late round targets. I

781
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 4: agree with leakwan On, John new Smith, and Mike Aseki's

782
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 4: my other one. Those are the three because Kiseki set

783
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: the moment they signed him and let Tyler Boyd walk,

784
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: I was like, he could be the new time in

785
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: this offense. Like, he is not a tight end, he

786
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 4: is a slot receiver. So it depends on how one

787
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: If if all three of their top wide receivers stay healthy,

788
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 4: that that will ding his value, and if they all

789
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 4: are on the field consistently, that will ding his value.

790
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: But I do think there's a good chance that we

791
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: see Kaseki heavily utilized in the slot, and I think

792
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: there's a shot he could be the best tight end

793
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: that Joe Burrow has played with.

794
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably not terrible. That's not a crazy thing

795
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: to say, but also probably speaks to the tight ends

796
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: that it's more that's been through there.

797
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

798
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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Football Podcast. The Cleveland Browns a riddle wrapped inside and

808
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: enigma stuffed inside. A mystery when it comes to actual football,

809
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: but in fantasy we sort of knew what was going

810
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: on last year. Top fantasy scorers, it was Joe Flacco

811
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: who was your top scoring fantasy quarterback. Before you get

812
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: too excited, he was the QB thirty four, one hundred

813
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Speaker 1: and ten point eight points, but he been in a

814
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Speaker 1: short amount of time, so we'll give him that.

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Speaker 2: To his credit.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson in case you were curious, with the QB

817
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Speaker 1: thirty seven eighty six point eight points. Jerome Ford ended

818
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Speaker 1: up being your top scoring running back in Cleveland, of course,

819
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Speaker 1: after the horrible knee injury to Nick Chubb. Two andred

820
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: and eleven points for Ford, RB sixteen, Amari Cooper your

821
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Speaker 1: top wide receiver to twenty seven for him. That was

822
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Speaker 1: good for wide receiver twenty and David Joku. The Chief

823
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: came to life late in the season, thanks in part

824
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: to Joe Flacco tight end six two six point four

825
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: the fantasy points for him. Key losses well, Joe Flacco,

826
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Speaker 1: who is now in Indianapolis as the back up to

827
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, because of course, you know you want a

828
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Speaker 1: quarterback who does the same things as Anthony Richardson, So

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00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: why not Joe Flacco and key additions. They did make

830
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Speaker 1: a trade to bring in Jerry Judy to bolster the

831
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Speaker 1: wide receiver corps. Amari Cooper your first Brown drafted of

832
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Speaker 1: an ADP of forty. So Lakwan will start with you,

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00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: what do you expect for Deshaun Watson in twenty twenty four,

834
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Speaker 1: Because let's be honest, it has not been great. It

835
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: has been very ungod native for Deshaun Watson in Cleveland

836
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Speaker 1: so far.

837
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Speaker 2: I'm hoping that the rust is off.

838
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: He could stay healthy, get into training camp and just

839
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: have a breath of fresh air and kind of get

840
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: this offense to be able to move downfield. They gave

841
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: him a good separator in Jerry Judy, So my whole

842
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: expectations of this offense to kind of look a lot

843
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: better than it did last year. To start off, I mean,

844
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: you look at the first three games, he had two interceptions.

845
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: But in that last game against Tennessee, he actually kept

846
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: a clean sheet with one hundred and twenty three passer rating,

847
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: So you're hoping to keep that momentum. And then the

848
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: very next game that's when he suffered the injury. So

849
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Speaker 3: it's like, if we can get a healthy Deshaun Watson

850
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: the game momentum, I think this offense can actually go

851
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: downfield and create some scoring opportunities. So I'm Marii Cooper,

852
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy, even David Nijok, who has a big tight

853
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: end threat, he is in that red zone. Like I know,

854
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: we all want the chief to be back in the

855
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: conversation of the top five tight end. So I think

856
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson ultimately, it will just have to come down

857
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: to health for this Browns offense to succeed.

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Speaker 4: You're willing to draft Watson at all, Florio, I haven't,

859
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: but I've started to reconsider. I I was on a

860
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: show like a week ago with Lawrence Jackson, and he

861
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: pointed out that Watson's best game of the year was

862
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Speaker 4: his final game, the one against the Ravens, where he

863
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 4: completed every pass in the second half and led them

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Speaker 4: to victory. Dropping over thirty points against what was the

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Speaker 4: best defense in football last year, who made a bunch

866
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Speaker 4: of really good quarterbacks look like mortals. So maybe that

867
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Speaker 4: was him starting to turn it together. But one thing

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Speaker 4: I do think that gets overlooked with Deshaun Watson as

869
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: bad as he was last year, and we were harping

870
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 4: on that a lot, eighteen or more fantasy points in

871
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 4: three of his full five games that he played, largely

872
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: because of rushing touchdowns. But with Nick Chubb hurt, maybe

873
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 4: we see him use near the goal line a little

874
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 4: bit more. The fact that he's cheaper than ever and

875
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: you could get him at what something like QB twenty two. Uh,

876
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 4: maybe I need to change my stance of it, because

877
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 4: I do think there's still some up. I know we

878
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 4: haven't seen it in years, and I don't think he's

879
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: gonna get back to what he was with the Texans,

880
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 4: but like somewhere in the middle would still be a

881
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 4: lot better than what we've seen as of late.

882
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know that I'm willing to

883
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: take the swing on Watson.

884
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm just sort of hoping that he's not a disaster

885
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: for the sake of the pieces around him.

886
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 4: You know, you don't.

887
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be great for like guys like

888
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper and David and Joku to succeed.

889
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: He just needs to not be awful. Yeah, that's all.

890
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: That's all.

891
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of all I'm hoping for h

892
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: right now. Okay, So I'm gonna ask you, Lakwan, because

893
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: I know you are drafting Nick Chubb.

894
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 4: No.

895
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: I said it on this showing. Both Floor and I

896
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: were like, hey, man, if we're wrong, then like, hey,

897
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: that's great. Like if he comes out, he balls out,

898
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: that's great. I'm not willing to do it, but no,

899
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, like, explain to me, because obviously you feel

900
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: like he's a value. I just I want you to

901
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: make your case to the people out there about why

902
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: they might want to consider drafting Nick Chubb.

903
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: I mean, look at this. I honestly know he's gonna

904
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: start the season off on pup. But we're talking about

905
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: a guy that can lift a bus over his head.

906
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: I've told you this multiple times, and then the very

907
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 3: next day he's lifting like four hundred pounds. And I

908
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 3: understand that there was like some analyzing of the video

909
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: where he had to put and shift different way on

910
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 3: the different leg But I think more so, you're still

911
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: gonna get Nick Chubb in those late rounds, so you're

912
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: not really gonna be facing any type of burn. He's

913
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: gonna be like your RB four or five and on

914
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: the back end of the season when it starts getting

915
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: cold and he hits that Captain America super juice and

916
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: he's back ready to go. You have a running back

917
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: that when he comes back to that room, there is

918
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 3: no question. If it's a Deontay Former, if it's a

919
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: Jerome Ford, it is Nick Chubb's backfield. And I would

920
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: love to have that type of attitude and have that

921
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: built of a running back just going into the playoffs.

922
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: So that is my case.

923
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: Man, you're getting a freak athlete. You never bet against

924
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 3: freak athletes.

925
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: Is Captain America super Juice on the NFL's list of

926
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: banned substances? Yes, I mean like I feel like Steve

927
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: Rodgers would have been getting in like a letter in

928
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: his locker every single week for like a drug test.

929
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely so, Floria.

930
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: Obviously everybody's drafting Amari Cooper. I don't think anybody has

931
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: a problem with that. Are there any other Browns receivers

932
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: after that? You would take a shot at No, I'm

933
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: not really doing the Jerry Judy thing.

934
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 4: I'm not doing a more if the late Browns that

935
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: I target are running backs. Actually, like like, I think

936
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: Deantay Foreman is a really good value for where you

937
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 4: get him. I got him in like the nineteenth round

938
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 4: of the scot Nice Wow, something like that. I like

939
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: jerrooam Ford, who goes around where Nick Chubb goes. So

940
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 4: if I'm going for late round Browns, it's typically running backs.

941
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: I think that's fair because I'm sitting here looking at

942
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: the depth chart and like, I'm with you. I'm not

943
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: in Elijah Moore real nasty work, you know. I really

944
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: I tried last year to get in on it, right

945
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: because remember he was in New York with Flacco. You know,

946
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: they seem to have a good connection there. Flacco was

947
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: kind of talking him up early, so I really tried

948
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: to hype him up and that that didn't work at all.

949
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: You got nothing out of Flacco. I'm with you, I

950
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: just you know, I don't know. I sort of like

951
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: go of the rope on Jerry Judy. I mean, looks

952
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: Cedric Hillman, David Bell, Uh, you know, stop me when

953
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: I stop me? When I say a name that you're

954
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: gonna get excited about, Jamari Thrash, Jalen Darden.

955
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 4: Cedric Hillman is the one I would probably get most

956
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: excited about. But I'm not drafting.

957
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean David Bell and me have the

958
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 3: same birthday, so that works out.

959
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's cool.

960
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, random thing.

961
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: I don't know where to go anywhere.

962
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: Alright, that's cool. That's cool, all right, So I guess

963
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: where we go from there? It's Pittsburgh. We go to

964
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. To round out our AFC North Preview Top

965
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three fantasy scorers. Kenny Pickett, who put up

966
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: a grand total of one hundred and ten point two

967
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: points that was good for QB thirty one, Jalen Warren

968
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: and Najee Harris, who I think two years in a

969
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: row now they have been back to backs. I feel

970
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: like it was like this last year. Warren's your RB

971
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: twenty two one hundred ninety six point four points. Najie

972
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: Harris was the RB twenty three one hundred and ninety

973
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: five point five. So basically what point nine points less

974
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: than one point separated the two of them.

975
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 2: George Pickens two hundred and eight point eight points.

976
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: He was wide receiver thirty Pat Fryarmouth your top tight

977
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: end tight end twenty nine seventy six point eight points

978
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: in a season where he was not completely healthy, So

979
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: that had a.

980
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: Lot to do with it. There key losses.

981
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: They lose Deontay Johnson to the Carolina Panthers this offseason,

982
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: but they do pick up Van Jefferson and Cordero Patterson.

983
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can still be a van

984
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 2: Stan when it comes to Jefferson. I did. I tried

985
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: for years. I was a van Stan for you.

986
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: I was there with you, man, you already know. And

987
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: it's sad it never quite happened.

988
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: By the way.

989
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: Shout out to Cordero Patterson. I just got married, I

990
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: believe over the weekend. Okay, spillers saw the Steelers posting

991
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: some some wedding photos. So congratulations to mister and missus Patterson.

992
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: Shout out to you guys. First off the board, George

993
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: Pickens an ADP of thirty eight point nine. All right,

994
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: you gotta pick one whose backfield is it? Who is

995
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: the RB one in Pittsburgh, Florio? Is it Najie Harris

996
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: or is it Jalen Warren.

997
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: In volume, it'll probably be Nase Harris, but I think

998
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 4: in production and in the one that I want to

999
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 4: target and draft, it's Jalen Warren. Warren last year was

1000
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 4: top six an explosive run rate, runs that win for

1001
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: ten or more yards, runs that win for fifteen or

1002
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 4: more yards, run that went for twenty or more yards,

1003
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: mistackles forced per tent yards after contact per a tenth

1004
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 4: rush yards over expectation, and target share, which is the

1005
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 4: huge thing because if he's seeing suppressed volume compared to

1006
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: Naji Harrison, I do think Nause will be the guy

1007
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 4: that on early downs and stuff like that they'll rely on.

1008
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 4: Warren could make up for the decrease and carries by

1009
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: being a more explosive runner. And then you add in

1010
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 4: that he's a better pass catcher and everything, and the

1011
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: fact that maybe Arthur Smith surprises us and uses him

1012
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 4: near the goal line a little bit more than Pittsburgh

1013
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 4: did last year. And so at an RB three price,

1014
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 4: I think they're both appropriately priced, but I like Jalen

1015
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 4: Warren a lot more.

1016
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: Who you got as the RB one look one, I'm

1017
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 2: gonna go Jaalen Warren.

1018
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: Things can get weird with Arthur smith I mean, honestly,

1019
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: we've seen Tyler a jer last year getting utilized a

1020
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: lot more than we expected, so hopefully Warren can be

1021
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: used the same. And these last two seasons, nobody has

1022
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 3: a rush outside the tackles more than the Falcons, so

1023
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: that's where Jalen Warren was really explosive and able to

1024
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: get a lot of the production downfield. And also adding

1025
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: that he's the better pass catcher as well. And you

1026
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: have a Russell Wilson back there who had a twenty

1027
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: six percent oh I'm sorry, a twenty nine percent running

1028
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: back target share as well, which was the highest. And

1029
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: we got to understand Arthur smith Man. He knows to

1030
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 3: get the ball to his wide receivers and to the

1031
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: running backs that are explosive. I mean desmid Ritter was

1032
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: fourth last year and running back target percentage also, So

1033
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: there is a little perfect marriage here where Jalen Warren

1034
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: can be utilized at a high rate now and I

1035
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: think it might end up being his backfield when it's

1036
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 3: all said and done.

1037
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: I think Najie Harris is the RB one, but that's

1038
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: pretty much a name only, like it's a title. Yeah,

1039
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think they are both the lead running

1040
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: back if that makes sense, right, because they are going

1041
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: to be used in different ways. But we've seen the

1042
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: last two years that the workload has been split fairly

1043
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: evenly between the two of them. I mean, I think,

1044
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: like I said, I think we're back to back years

1045
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: of them finishing one spot behind the other when it

1046
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: comes to fantasy totals at the end of the season.

1047
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: So I mean saying Najie Harris is the RB one

1048
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: is basically like, yeah, he's the guy who's gonna be

1049
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: on the field first when the offense comes out, you know, Like,

1050
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: but I think either way, uh, they're gonna see similar numbers.

1051
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: I've taken Harris because at least early on, like his

1052
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: ADP was slightly better, but then when it has kind

1053
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: of flipped, then I've got I've gotten Najie Harris because

1054
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, I guess it's gonna be right. Floyda, are

1055
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: we overlooking bad Firemouth? At tight end fourteen, he says

1056
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: he's healthy. All the reports out of camp have been

1057
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: pretty glowing. Should we be buying in on him at

1058
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: this point?

1059
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: Yes?

1060
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I target him as my tight end one, uh,

1061
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 4: or as like a high end tight end two drafts

1062
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 4: where I don't love my stuff, Like if I miss

1063
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: out on like Kincaid and Pits and I wait then

1064
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 4: on the position, prior Mouth is usually a name that

1065
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 4: I'm going after because you always hear like Russell Wilson

1066
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: loves throwing to the tight end, especially in the red zone,

1067
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 4: and that has historically been true. Like it's not like

1068
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 4: a one or two year blip or whatever like this

1069
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 4: goes back to Jimmy Graham and Will Disley and stuff

1070
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 4: like that in Seattle. And then they don't have a

1071
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 4: clear cut number two guy, like it could be Van Jefferson,

1072
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: it could be Roman Wilson, it could be a couple

1073
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 4: other different options they're throwing out there. So friar Mouth

1074
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 4: easily could be the number two target in this offense,

1075
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: behind only George Pickens. And I think he's getting disrespected

1076
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: a little bit because of one, how poor the quarterback

1077
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 4: play was last year. But also remember he was like

1078
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 4: in and out of the lineup, banged up a bit.

1079
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: So I just think it was a lost year for

1080
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: Pat Frye mouton that in the Steelers system.

1081
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think the biggest part of this

1082
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 1: is the fact that there isn't a clear cut second

1083
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: target in this offense. You know, we all know George

1084
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: Pickens is gonna be that guy. I have not heard

1085
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: anything that gets you fired up about Roman Wilson so

1086
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: far this offseason. I mean, you know there are Look,

1087
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: there was talks that maybe they'd be in on Brandon

1088
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: Ayuk if he was available.

1089
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: I think that I get it. I yuks a guy

1090
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: that most teams are going to take a shot at.

1091
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: But I think the fact that these Steelers were very

1092
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: heavily attached to him, I think says a lot. You know,

1093
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: they're they're trying to make Van Jefferson their wide receiver

1094
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: too right now. I just I think that that bodes

1095
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: well for Friar with being able to get open and

1096
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: get some some targets there. And I do like the

1097
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: point about Russell Wilson and the tide ends he could

1098
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: just never keep one healthy. So I don't know if

1099
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just a coincidence thing, or

1100
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 1: if this is like Russell putting his dudes in harm

1101
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: with Harm's Way hospital balls.

1102
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if he's if

1103
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: he's you know, out there doing that. So I don't.

1104
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: I have no idea, But speaking of Russell Wilson, he's

1105
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: the QB thirty, Justin Fields is the QB thirty two Lakwander,

1106
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: either or both of those guys worth drafting.

1107
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 3: I think Russell Wilson's a good QB two. I feel like,

1108
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 3: more so have your expectations and be ready to pivot

1109
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: if he ends up getting benched. But I'm honestly going

1110
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: into this season confident that Russell Wilson will go in

1111
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 3: get the playbook down pack, and I do like the

1112
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: weapons that they're trying to put around him. If the

1113
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 3: Brandon Aiyuk rumor is true and he gets Brandon Ayuk,

1114
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: I think we honestly see that ADP come up a

1115
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: little higher than QB thirty. And I feel as though

1116
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: he wasn't that bad last year, Like he wasn't terrible.

1117
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 3: It's not like he had a Zach Wilson season or

1118
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett season. This is a huge upgrade for this

1119
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 3: offensive round. George Picken's going to be a lot more

1120
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: attractive in drafts to go out and get. And we

1121
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 3: just talked about Pat Fyromf. I mean, he's such a great,

1122
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: big talent that never really had a chance to show

1123
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: his full fantasy potential because of the QB plays. So

1124
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 3: we're all looking at these pieces, man, and the more

1125
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: I keep looking at their depth chart, the more I

1126
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: keep looking at their values and drafts. Like I'm kind

1127
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 3: of in on Steelers players at the price makes sense.

1128
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: So definitely Russell Wilson.

1129
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, didn't you say you drafted Justin Fields

1130
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: Floria at least in Best Ball a couple of times.

1131
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, I take him everywhere. It's like QP

1132
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: three in Best Ball because and then to be honest, like,

1133
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna draft him in redraft because I do

1134
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 4: think Russell Wilson will start the year. But I'm much

1135
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 4: more interested in Justin Field started than Russell Wilson because

1136
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 4: I think Wilson is better for like George Pickens and

1137
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 4: Pat Fryer mood. So I'm cool taking those guys. But

1138
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 4: remember last year, like Wilson, he was someone that I

1139
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 4: was putting like in the start sit a lot, and basically,

1140
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 4: if it was a good matchup, you were looking at

1141
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 4: somewhere like fifteen to maybe eighteen fantasy points, and if

1142
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 4: it was a bad matchup, you were getting something like

1143
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 4: thirteen to feel like most weeks he was sitting around

1144
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 4: fifteen fantasy points, and that is so low and it's

1145
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 4: a low floor. And one thing I've been thinking a

1146
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 4: lot lately, and I could be wrong. I'm purely speculating here,

1147
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 4: but I truly think if you asked Mike Tomlin, who's

1148
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 4: better for a seventeen game season, it is Russell Wilson.

1149
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 4: But who can you win you needed to win one game,

1150
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: who would you choose? I think he would choose Justin

1151
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 4: Fields because of the running ability, the ability to control

1152
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 4: the clock and trust your defense. Then so I continue

1153
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 4: to think that we could see a quarterback change at

1154
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 4: some point, and Justin Fields is maybe the only quarterback

1155
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: three ever. Uh and for fantasy purposes that we know

1156
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 4: if he starts hop fun I.

1157
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: Mean, that's sort of it, right. I think everybody is.

1158
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: I think the general attitude is if he plays, then

1159
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm willing to start him. It's just a question of,

1160
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: you know, will he play. I guess more of when

1161
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: he will play, because I do think at some point

1162
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: he's going to start this season. It's just a matter

1163
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: of how long they will with Russ before they turned

1164
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: things over to Fields.

1165
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 3: Have them split man sixty forty every game that was

1166
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 3: coming off the bench.

1167
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: That would be a disaster.

1168
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean it'd be great for us, but for the

1169
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: actual Steelers offense, that would be a complete disaster for sure.

1170
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

1171
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: That's all I got on that, all right there, you know,

1172
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: there's a look at the AFC North. Of course, we'll

1173
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: be back with you on Wednesday. We'll take a look

1174
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: at the NFC North as well, so stay tuned for that,

1175
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: and then on Thursday we'll have another edition of the

1176
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: cheat sheet.

1177
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 2: Kung Fu Hustle. That is the movie.

1178
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: I'll let you know early because I think last week

1179
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: I kind of reminded you late about Gladiator. Florio, and

1180
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: thank you for reminding me. Right now, it's only an

1181
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: hour and a half and a half. It's like it's

1182
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: like ninety minutes. Like you know, Gladiator is like a

1183
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: solid two and a half hours. It's an enjoyable two

1184
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: and a half hours. Yeah, I've got to say that

1185
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: was worth it, but two and a half hours. Nonetheless,

1186
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: this will be a little bit easier, So check that

1187
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: out on Thursday as we get you another edition of

1188
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: the cheat sheet. In the meantime, that'll do it for

1189
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy,

1190
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: safe and healthy, do good and live well, and we'll

1191
00:55:45,160 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: talk to you on Wednesday. Woo