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Speaker 1: On Michael Capruto contacted me and he said that he

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Speaker 1: had been contacted by a man using an alias, as

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Speaker 1: it turns out, Henry Greenberg, who had information that he

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Speaker 1: said would be a great value to the Trump campaign.

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Speaker 1: Every congresswoman would take the call if they got that call, Oh,

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Speaker 1: we got info on your oper research on your opponent.

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Speaker 1: And I took the meeting, and Henry Greenberg turns out

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Speaker 1: who is a violent felon who otherwise could not be

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Speaker 1: but he gives away the game when he says he

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Speaker 1: wants two million dollars for negative information on Hillary. When

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Speaker 1: it's not your money. I want it's Donald Trump's money.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the first known example of the Peter

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Speaker 1: seeking to compromise, to entrap me and to compromise Trump.

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Speaker 1: All Right, our to Shawn Hannity show, right down, our

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Speaker 1: toll free telephone number. It's eight nine one, Shawn, if

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. That

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Speaker 1: was Roger Stone. He's got a brand new book out,

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Speaker 1: by the way, it's called called Stones Rules, How to

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Speaker 1: Win a Politics and what else is it? Politics? Politics,

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Speaker 1: Business and Style? Right, all right, now, before we get

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Speaker 1: to the issue at hand, that was you on our

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Speaker 1: TV show. So I read your book. I actually read

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Speaker 1: it's it's by the way, it's a fun book. It's

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Speaker 1: a great read. And you know what, it has really

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Speaker 1: entertaining Roger stone esque rules in there, which cracked me

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Speaker 1: up because everybody knows you're a character with a huge

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Speaker 1: never going to pass that. I'm never going to be

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Speaker 1: a success in life. Actually, so that's not true. I've

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Speaker 1: that Robert Muller may try to indict you. And for

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Speaker 1: what reason. That's an excellent question. All my political activities

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Speaker 1: Robert Mueller's record is atrocious. This is a guy who

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Speaker 1: Caputo had asked you to meet with this particular guy

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Speaker 1: an FBI informant even though he had committed violent felonies

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Speaker 1: on this program. Let me play for you what he

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Speaker 1: said to us. It certainly is a sophisticated advice. Of course,

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Speaker 1: a cloth can only wipe fingerprints, but bleach bit can

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Speaker 1: wipe the information. So as Trey Goudy said, not even

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Speaker 1: God can read it. Ye, So in other words, it

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Speaker 1: really works your technology. In other words, for example, if

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Speaker 1: I delete on my on my computer right now, a

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Speaker 1: bunch of emails, if I de lead a bunch of whatever,

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Speaker 1: it's still on my computer. It would be recoverable by

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Speaker 1: a computer forensic expert, by the FBI, for example, they'd

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Speaker 1: be able to find every single thing I did on

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Speaker 1: my computer if I just deleted it the old fashioned way,

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Speaker 1: the old fashioned way, you're right, doesn't permanently delete information. UM.

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Speaker 1: In a case of email, things a lot more complicated.

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Speaker 1: And that's why Hillary took a two pronged approach. Right,

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Speaker 1: her aid smashed her mobile devices with a hammer, because

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Speaker 1: there's copy of the emails on the UM on the

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Speaker 1: mobile device. And then the I T guy from Platte

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Speaker 1: River Networks ran bleach bit on the server and that

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Speaker 1: server end. So this was a would bleach bit or

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Speaker 1: the use of bleach bit if I if you found

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Speaker 1: out I was under investigation by the FBI. And let's

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Speaker 1: say I called you. You're the founder, you're the lead

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Speaker 1: developer of bleach bit. I call you, and I say,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Andrew Sean Hannity, the FBI wants to look at

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Speaker 1: my computer. Um, um, what do you think I ought

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Speaker 1: to do? And you tell me to use bleach pit,

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Speaker 1: And you'd say, if you really want to hide stuff.

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Speaker 1: You want to race stuff. Bleach bit works. You tell

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Speaker 1: me that, right, and you're confident in your product. Bleach

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Speaker 1: bit can, Yeah, definitely delete information that so that people

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Speaker 1: can't hide it. Sounds like acid Washington me, I'm sticking

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Speaker 1: with acid washing. Then you called it a program, and

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Speaker 1: I've been with you repeatedly when you have referred to

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Speaker 1: it as a program. Let's go back to your book

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Speaker 1: and you put all of the comments of Struck in

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Speaker 1: page and then you see that the very same people

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Speaker 1: that it's obvious Hillary obstructed justice. You have no doubt

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Speaker 1: she obstructed justice and she misshandaled classified documents and destroyed

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Speaker 1: and destroyed them. Yes, and those are all felonies, all felonies.

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Speaker 1: And you do you believe as I do, that the

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Speaker 1: fix was in what struck page McCabe just a mirror

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Speaker 1: before Comy cleared Hillary Clinton, he prosecuted Brian Nishimura, a

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Speaker 1: naval reservists for doing exactly what Hillary Clinton did on

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Speaker 1: a smaller scale. And in the FBI press release it

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Speaker 1: literally says he did it without intent and they prosecuted

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Speaker 1: him under gross negligence. How could Comy then a year

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Speaker 1: later say there are no such cases in which a

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Speaker 1: prosecutor has brought such a other statute of limitations or

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Speaker 1: could Hillary still be charged for these could still be charged?

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Speaker 1: Not all of them have run, but some have. What

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Speaker 1: you could what? What? What? What? What could she be

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Speaker 1: charged with? Well, if you back date from now all

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Speaker 1: the way to the later classified documents, out of a

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Speaker 1: hundred and ten of them, some of them have the

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Speaker 1: statute has not run, so she could be prosecuted on

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Speaker 1: the US but on the early ones. No. So this guy, Brian,

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Speaker 1: Brian Nishimarama or in the case negligence and forced to

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Speaker 1: plead guilty, and he did what Hillary Clinton did. So

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Speaker 1: when when Comey stood in front of cameras July five

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Speaker 1: and said no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case,

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Speaker 1: his prosecutors and his FBI had brought such a case.

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Speaker 1: And all of this is in your book. Sure, So

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Speaker 1: that is the scheme. It's called the Russian hoax, the

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Speaker 1: illicits game to clear Hillary. All right, you explained the

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Speaker 1: clear Hillary part and frame Donald Trump? What's the framing

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump part? Everything that we've seen that and a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more. Uh. They began the investigation, a criminal

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Speaker 1: investigation without evidence of a crime which violates FBI rules.

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Speaker 1: They then decided, let's make it a counterintelligence pro because

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Speaker 1: we know we have no evidence of a crime, and

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Speaker 1: yet they had no intelligence and Peter Struck signed the

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Speaker 1: documents on July thirty one, officially launching the pro But

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Speaker 1: were using confidential informants. Unbelievable. So we have confidential informants.

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Speaker 1: We have Hillary Boughton paid for Russian lies that have

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Speaker 1: been debunked, put together by a foreign national, paid through

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Speaker 1: funneled money through a law firm, to an op research group,

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Speaker 1: to the foreign national, but not being investigated for using

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Speaker 1: a foreign national. Trump, which didn't use a foreign national

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Speaker 1: through payments, is being investigated. That's It's a pretty sick

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Speaker 1: world we're living in. Oh, it surely is. It's a

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Speaker 1: double standard world. Hillary Clinton Clinton can do anything she wants. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's why we always talk about an equal justice under

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Speaker 1: the law, equal application under our laws. And now if

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Speaker 1: we don't fix it, this is gonna end very badly

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Speaker 1: for the country. Will continue more. Greg jarreted his new

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Speaker 1: We'll continue fighting the Trump liberal media One day at

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Speaker 1: a time is the Sean Hannity Show. And as we continue,

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Speaker 1: Great jareded is in studio with us the Russia hoax,

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Speaker 1: the illicit scheme to clear Hillary Clinton frame Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I'd be honest. I watched to write the

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Speaker 1: whole book. A lot of people sell books, they don't

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Speaker 1: write it all that. You wrote every word yourself. You know,

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Speaker 1: the tough part if it was um all of the footnotes.

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Speaker 1: There are a seven hundred footnotes because I wanted to

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Speaker 1: source everything, and I made the conscious decision even though

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Speaker 1: I have anonymous sources who are you know, very well

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Speaker 1: placed and very reliable, I chose not to use them

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Speaker 1: for the book. So everything in that book, all the laws,

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Speaker 1: the case laws, the statutes, all of the facts are

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Speaker 1: in the end notes. And you know, I'll just want

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Speaker 1: to give chapter titles because it's sort of like I

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Speaker 1: watched you give birth to all of them, and events

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Speaker 1: for happening as you were writing the book, which is amazing.

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Speaker 1: And then so I'd go in and say, well, you

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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta alter chapter six now because something had

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Speaker 1: just happened that day. But you know, you first talked

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Speaker 1: about the insidious abuse of power and this this is

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Speaker 1: the heart of our constitutional republic. Are we going to

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Speaker 1: be a country that is based on a rule of

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Speaker 1: law predicated on a constitution s either yes or no.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna either have equal application of our laws or not.

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Speaker 1: You give the full rundown on a chapter on Hillary's

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Speaker 1: email server. Uh, comey, contorting the law to basically rigged

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Speaker 1: the investigation. How the fixes in there? You do have

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Speaker 1: one chapter on Clinton greed in uranium one which we're

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Speaker 1: going to get back to eventually. Then you talk about

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Speaker 1: the fraudulent case against Donald Trump, the fabricated dossier used

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Speaker 1: against Trump, the government abuse of surveillance, and of course

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Speaker 1: FISA meeting with Russians is not a crime, which nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to hear. And then of course firing Flynn sessions

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Speaker 1: were accusal and obstruction of justice, and the illegitimate appointment

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Speaker 1: or Mueller. It's a full, comprehensive I'm gonna call this

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Speaker 1: the bible for those of us that care about the

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Speaker 1: biggest abuse of power scandal in our history. We will

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Speaker 1: refer to this book for years to come. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think it is a thorough and complete examination to

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Speaker 1: date of all of the evidence that the FBI decided

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Speaker 1: for political reasons to absolve Hillary Clinton in the face

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Speaker 1: of as clear cut crimes. And then on the very

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Speaker 1: day that Hillary Clinton was cleared, the FBI first met

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Speaker 1: with the British spy who had compiled this completely laughable phony, Dawsey,

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Speaker 1: And they never told four FISA court judges the truth.

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Speaker 1: They never verified and it turned out to be false information.

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Speaker 1: Even Comie himself says it's unverified and and the only

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Speaker 1: the bulk of application that's right, The only reference they

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Speaker 1: make to it is buried in two footnotes, and you

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Speaker 1: would have to be able, you'd have to be clear

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Speaker 1: avoyant to discern what it meant. So the FAS and

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Speaker 1: judges were left in the dark. It's called the Russia hoax,

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Speaker 1: the illicit scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: It's just a couple of weeks now from its debut.

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Speaker 1: UH Greg Jarrett has been all over this. It will

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Speaker 1: be a book. We referred to a lot as people

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Speaker 1: get indicted in the next year to come. All right,

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Speaker 1: we'll take a quick break when we come back. Michael Caputo, Well,

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Speaker 1: appears that an FBI informant tried to set him and

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Speaker 1: Roger Stone up. According to their story, they'll tell us

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Speaker 1: all about it next. This is What's Right with America.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Sean Hannity Show. Michael Capputo contacted

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Speaker 1: me and he said that he had been contacted by

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Speaker 1: a man using an alias, as it turns out, Henry Greenberg,

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Speaker 1: who had information that he said would be a great

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Speaker 1: value to the Trump campaign. Uh. And Henry Greenberg turns

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Speaker 1: out to be an FBI in formant of Russian descent

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Speaker 1: who has been admitted to the country nine times on

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Speaker 1: informant visas, who is a violent felon who otherwise could

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Speaker 1: not be in the country. And then he tries to

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Speaker 1: entrap me. But he gives away the game when he

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Speaker 1: says he wants two million dollars for negative information on Hillary.

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Speaker 1: When I tell him I don't have two million dollars,

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Speaker 1: he says, it's not your money. I want it's Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's money. I think it was an FBI plant seeking

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Speaker 1: to entrap me and to compromise Trump. Michael Caputo set

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Speaker 1: up the meeting for Roger Stone. Both of them were

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Speaker 1: interviewed in the summer and fall off. They were interviewed

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Speaker 1: a long time after we first requested to interview with them,

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Speaker 1: meaning that a letter was sent to both of them.

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Speaker 1: It laid out the scope of what we wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk to them about, which was primarily Russian contacts that

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Speaker 1: they had, and they had a long time to prepare

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Speaker 1: with their lawyers. They both came in with lawyers. So,

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Speaker 1: based on my experience of examining witnesses, I concluded that

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Speaker 1: they had prepared and they knew what we were going

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Speaker 1: to ask. And so to say that there was a

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Speaker 1: failure of memory by both individuals to recall this meeting,

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Speaker 1: I just don't buy it. I think they just lied

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Speaker 1: through their teeth to protect the fact that they were

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Speaker 1: willing and eager to take a meeting with Russians who

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Speaker 1: were offering dirt. Do you think that Roger Stone purjured

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Speaker 1: himself in his testimony or Michael Caputo, Except when you're

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Speaker 1: testifying in this Republican led House Intelligence Committee, which will

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Speaker 1: not turn over the transcripts to Bob Mueller or to

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Speaker 1: the public, so they are shielded by Republicans who will

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Speaker 1: not allow Mueller's team to see the transcripts. Muller asked

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Speaker 1: for that testimony, you know, and I can't go into that.

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Speaker 1: I can just tell you that we have requested Mr

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Speaker 1: Schiff has requested to Devin noonez that we be able

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Speaker 1: to send over to Special Counsel some of the crimes

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Speaker 1: that we believe were committed through failure to recall or

646
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: just straight out you know, deception that we saw and

647
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: the new the new nez uh team has refused to

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Speaker 1: cooperate with us on that and at least send him over.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I do believe. I do believe that there

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Speaker 1: that both Caputo and Stone, that Special Council should be

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Speaker 1: able to look at that for perjury. All right, there

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Speaker 1: you have well predictable democratic Let's continue the fishing expedition,

653
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Speaker 1: no matter how far it goes and how deep it's found. Um,

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00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: listening to what Roger Stone and Michael Capputo both said, uh,

655
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: there was no there there. You know, this is a

656
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: dirty little secret fact and that is is that Democrats.

657
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Speaker 1: They take meetings all the time when it's about op

658
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: research on their opponents. It is standard operating procedure. You

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Speaker 1: mean to say that if somebody calls over to a

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Speaker 1: Senate campaign or somebody calls over to a congressional campaign, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I've got all the dirt on your opponents. You're not

662
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: gonna sit and listen as long as nothing happened. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, it's it's not illegal, especially if it

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Speaker 1: would be the truth. In the case of everything that

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Speaker 1: was presented before the FISA Core judge, remember that was

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Speaker 1: all bought and paid for lies. Anyway, Michael Capputo is

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Speaker 1: with US Republican strategists. He's been targeted by the left

668
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Speaker 1: for his associations with the president. You know, one of

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Speaker 1: the scariest things you said to me is after you

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Speaker 1: had a meeting with I guess Mueller's team. You came

671
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Speaker 1: out of the meeting, but the last thing they said

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Speaker 1: to you and we will be watching, meaning you know,

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Speaker 1: how did you interpret it? Because I know how I

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Speaker 1: interpreted it was a very chilling statement. Thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me on. By the way, Sean, when when the prosecutor

676
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Speaker 1: said that to me, he said, you know, Mr Copputo,

677
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Speaker 1: We know that you're having problems paying for your legal fees.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's why we agreed to pay for your

679
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Speaker 1: airplane fare and your hotel for this interview. But we're

680
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: watching you on television. We want to make you know,

681
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: make sure you know that. And was very it was

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Speaker 1: you know, it was very easy math for me to

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Speaker 1: understand the two plus two equals four. And that was

684
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Speaker 1: them telling me, watch what you say. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: up until that point, Sean, I was really concerned about

686
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Speaker 1: being brought in because, as you know, I had, I

687
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: was up to over a hundred thousand dollars in legal

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Speaker 1: fees and I live in a little village outside of Buffalo,

689
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: New York. I don't make Washington or New York City money.

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Speaker 1: My wife and I were very concerned but about how

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Speaker 1: we're gonna pay our legal fees. But you know, after

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Speaker 1: these meetings with Muller, our go fund me, U ended

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Speaker 1: up raising enough money to pay for our legal fees

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Speaker 1: and more. And I'm not really concerned about the fact

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Speaker 1: that they're listening to your show right now and taking

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Speaker 1: notes on what I'm saying, because I know a fact

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Speaker 1: that I was approached via telephone while I was in

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Speaker 1: Trump Tower by an FBI informant, someone who attested under

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Speaker 1: oath himself that he was an FBI informant for seventeen years.

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Speaker 1: And I know that that actually shifts the timeline from

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Speaker 1: July to May two months and when Now this is

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Speaker 1: important when you say shift the timeline, meaning the beginnings

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Speaker 1: of the Russia investigation, right exactly, And so so so

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Speaker 1: this guy that's a felon and an FBI informant, it

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Speaker 1: turns out he's an FBI informant. You didn't know it

706
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Speaker 1: at the time, did you know? I didn't. He called

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Speaker 1: me up on the telephone set. His name was Henry Greenberg.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't really raise to mind any particular you know,

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Speaker 1: Russian fascination. And at the time, as you remember, in

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Speaker 1: May of twenty sixteen, nobody was even talking about Russia.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't part of the Democrat mantra yet and Hillary

712
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Speaker 1: Clinton had yet to distribute her first press release accusing

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Speaker 1: Russian contacts within the Trump campaign are our Ourn'ttenner weren't

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Speaker 1: even up. But I'll tell you after I really, you know,

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Speaker 1: when they asked me, were you approached by any Russians

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Speaker 1: with any information about Hillary. I disclosed this Greenberg content

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Speaker 1: his name, he claimed to be named Henry Greenberg. He's

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Speaker 1: actually you disclosed it in the in the beginning. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and then you and this and when did he first

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Speaker 1: approach you in uh in May? Late May via telephone?

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Speaker 1: So this is way before the Papadopolos Downer meeting. And

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Speaker 1: then of course Peter Struck and company, the lead investigator,

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Speaker 1: flying to London and working through diplomatic channels to get

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Speaker 1: the approval to interview the diplomat from Australia Downer, a

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Speaker 1: guy who also donated twenty five million dollars to the

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation. Correct, Correct, And there's all this activity going

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Speaker 1: on in May, and and the Department of Justice says,

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Speaker 1: our full investigation started in July. But here's the important part.

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Speaker 1: And I learned this from Mark wow who was a

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Speaker 1: retired FBI agent and a PC wrote for American Thinker

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Speaker 1: called a guide to Spygate just came out I think

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Speaker 1: on Friday. You know, they're telling the truth. The full

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Speaker 1: investigation started in July, but according to FBR part FBI

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Speaker 1: par once, the full investigation must be predicated by a

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Speaker 1: preliminary investigation and the preliminary investigation must be predicated by

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Speaker 1: an official assessment. All three are investigations, and Sean in

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Speaker 1: all three of those phases they can use UH FBI informants,

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Speaker 1: So they're they've been carefully using their language when they

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Speaker 1: talk about when the investigation began. What they're going to

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Speaker 1: admit to now with these documents they're so shy about

741
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Speaker 1: with Congress. These documents are gonna show that the preliminary

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Speaker 1: investigation was going on in May and they were sending

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Speaker 1: FBI informants to me and Roger Stone and Papadopoulos and others.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty unbelievable, all right. So this guy approaches you

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Speaker 1: and he said he wanted to meet Roger Um. He

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Speaker 1: approached uh specifically, approached my business partner at an art

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Speaker 1: exhibition our company was sponsoring. When you met him, When

748
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Speaker 1: you met him, did you think he had a Russian accent?

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Speaker 1: I met him on the telephone only, and I initially

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Speaker 1: thought he had a Russian accent or an Israeli accent.

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Speaker 1: I knew he wasn't you know. I assumed, as I

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Speaker 1: hold the mother people that he was an American citizen

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Speaker 1: of Russian origin, and that really set them off at

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Speaker 1: the at my mother interview. They said, he's thought an

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Speaker 1: American citizen, he's a Russian citizen. And I thought, how

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Speaker 1: do you know this guy? And so I hired Because

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Speaker 1: of the funding through my go FUNDI fundraising, I was

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Speaker 1: able to hire private investigators in the United States and Russia.

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Speaker 1: And while we were, you know, running this private investigation,

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Speaker 1: we discovered uh, absolute, incontrovertible, air refutable proof that he

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Speaker 1: was an FBI informant for seventeen years. In fact, he

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Speaker 1: filed the twenty fifteen document UH signed affidavit under oath

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Speaker 1: swearing that he was an FBI informant for seventeen years.

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Speaker 1: He did that in and in that document, Sean he

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Speaker 1: showed the paperwork behind every single one of his FBI

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Speaker 1: informant visas. So he's only here on FBI informant visas

767
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Speaker 1: and that's why he's still here today. Now, the the issue,

768
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Speaker 1: and this is a guy that committed violent crimes, isn't

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Speaker 1: it no doubt? He He was arrested in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: for assault with a deadly weapon, a gun crime, and

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Speaker 1: the FBI deported him in two thousand. Then they brought

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Speaker 1: him back. How much at least nine times, right. They

773
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Speaker 1: brought him back from from Russian prison. He was found

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Speaker 1: guilty when they threw him into When they deported him

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Speaker 1: to Russia, the FBI told the the Russian authorities that

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Speaker 1: he was coming under a new name, and he actually,

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Speaker 1: this is a man you have a warrant on it.

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Speaker 1: The Russians arrested him after he got back and put

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Speaker 1: him in prison, and he disappeared and reappeared in the

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Speaker 1: United States working for the FBI. This is all. You

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Speaker 1: can see all of this at democrat dossier dot org.

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Speaker 1: That's the results of our entire uh private investigation Democrat

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Speaker 1: dossier dot org. This man, it's not whether it's unquestionable

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Speaker 1: that he he's an FBI informer. The question is was

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Speaker 1: he on lunch break when he decided to meet with

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Speaker 1: Roger Stone? Did he take his own time and do that. No,

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Speaker 1: he was doing it on behalf of the FBI, obviously, right,

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Speaker 1: And so that puts no doubt, that puts their number one,

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Speaker 1: puts another spy inside the Trump campaign, except this buy

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Speaker 1: is actively seeking out um, actively seeking out with no

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Speaker 1: reason to a type of investigation. Obviously, it was had

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Speaker 1: to be signed off by high ranking people in the

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Speaker 1: FBI and d O J and almost it sounds like

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Speaker 1: a trap to me. Sounds like you guys were set

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Speaker 1: up to me, we were, I believe as well. Um

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Speaker 1: Roger and I are certain of it. We believed that

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Speaker 1: the House Republicans are going to find out what kind

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Speaker 1: of visa he was on. But the more I've learned

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Speaker 1: about this from my investigators and others, and from Mark

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Speaker 1: Wow's article and American Thinker, you know, but he was

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Speaker 1: given what they call in s visa, which is the

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Speaker 1: FBI informant visa. They call it a public benefit visa,

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Speaker 1: which can be done fairly quickly. And I'm I understand

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Speaker 1: now that the Russian lawyer who met with Don Jr.

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Speaker 1: Vessel Neetskaya, she also got an FBI informant visa to

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Speaker 1: come in the country to do the meeting in Trump Tower.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? It's unbelievable. I mean, the whole thing

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Speaker 1: coming apart of the scenes, all right, hanging there one second,

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Speaker 1: Michael Camputo, is how many times have you been to

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Speaker 1: Robert Muller's office for you know, a little little coffee chats? Well,

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Speaker 1: just once, But I think I'm gonna be a good

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Speaker 1: frequent flyer miles out of this one. I think you

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Speaker 1: think you think you're going back again. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can out an FBI informant without

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Speaker 1: having some consequences. But I'm really not all that worried

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Speaker 1: because I found out that Trump supporters are are there

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Speaker 1: behind me. Well, that you're gonna lose your house, and

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Speaker 1: I guess you put a go fund me page up

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Speaker 1: and people saved your house from having to be sold,

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Speaker 1: right they did. And by the way, Sean, without their funding,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to find out this guy

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Speaker 1: Final Hour roundup is next. You do not want to

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Speaker 1: Robert Muller and his team, Andrew Weiseman's pitbull and he

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00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: appoints Jeenie Ray, who once worked with the Clinton Foundation. Uh,

854
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: knowing the extent to which they have been willing to

855
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: go to pretty much, you know, get anything they possibly

856
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: can on Trump or or listening to Judge Ellis say, yeah,

857
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: the only reason you're going back to a two thousand

858
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: and five tax case of Paul Manafort having nothing to

859
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: do with Russia is because you want to put the

860
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: screws to him, and you want to make him sing,

861
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: and you want to make him perhaps even compose, And

862
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: that means, uh, that's all for really getting Donald Trump

863
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: so you can prosecute him or impeach him. Do you

864
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: agree with the judge's statement there? I do. I do.

865
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: I just wish that that that would drive the judge's decision. Unfortunately,

866
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hopeful that that it will help him, you know,

867
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: do for develop his perspective on what's happening with Paul.

868
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: But you know, you the I it appears to me

869
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice and and our whole judicial six

870
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: has been weaponized against those people who who were trying

871
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: to elect the president United States. I think that's what

872
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: it's all about there. They're out to destroy the president,

873
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: destroy his family, destroy his businesses. And destroy those of

874
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: us who count him as a friends, so that no

875
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: billionaire ever stands up again and says, hey, you know,

876
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: my my country is screwed up, and I can fix it.

877
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: That will never happen again. It's really scary when you

878
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: have the power of the government using these tools as

879
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: they are, uh, and literally now setting up innocent people,

880
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: apparently for no reason. That did you ever go to

881
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 1: Russia before in your life? Of course? I I mean

882
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: that's why I was in the jackpot here, because I

883
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: lived in Russia for seven years. Why did you live

884
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: in Russia? I lived there in the nineties. I was

885
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: sent there by the Clinton administrations the medal in their elections,

886
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: and uh, wait a minute, I thought that was I

887
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: thought we didn't do that. I thought that was wrong.

888
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: I know it's funny, but you know I worked there

889
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: with the Republican Institute and the Democratic Institute, you know,

890
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: to try and work in elections there. You know, I

891
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: I marry, I'm married to Russian. Uh. You know, I

892
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: have a Russian daughter. Many of my friends and Russian.

893
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: You know, this one thing I see and each one

894
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: of these hearing sean is abject McCarthy ism and it's

895
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: it's so strange to me to see the people who

896
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: were out defending the Soviet Union for a generation are

897
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: now pointing at every Russian. By the way, the Russians

898
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: who live here in America want to be here in America.

899
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: I gotta run. But it's like living Underpoot. It's interesting

900
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: for people to understand how people's lives are turned upside

901
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: down and altered because of this obsession of getting Trump.

902
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: We'll take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll continue

903
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: on the other side. News Round Up, Information Overload. Pam

904
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: BONDI literally thrown out of a restaurant, herself, out of

905
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: a movie herself. She'll join us and tell her story

906
00:51:47,920 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: straight ahead. Michael Capruto contacted me and he said that

907
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: he had been contacted by a man using an alias,

908
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: as it turns out, Henry Greenberg, who had information that

909
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: he said would be of great value to the Trump campaign.

910
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: Every congresswoman would take the call if they got that call, Oh,

911
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: we got info on your oper research on your opponent.

912
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: And I took the meeting. And Henry Greenberg turns out

913
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: to be an FBI informant of Russian descent who has

914
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: been admitted to the country nine times on informant visas

915
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: who is a violent felon who otherwise could not be

916
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: in the country. And then he tries to entrap me,

917
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: but he gives away the game when he says he

918
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: wants two million dollars for negative information on Hillary. When

919
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: I tell him I don't have two million dollars, he says,

920
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: it's not your money I want, It's Donald Trump's money.

921
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: I think it's the first known example of the Peter

922
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: Stroke insurance policy. I think it was an FBI plant

923
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: seeking to compromise, to entrap me and to compromise Trump. Alright,

924
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: our to Shawn Hannity show, right down, our toll free

925
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: telephone number. It's eight D nine one, Shawn, if you

926
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. That was

927
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: Roger Stone. He's got a brand new book out, by

928
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: the way, it's called called Stones Rules, How to Win

929
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: at Politics and what else is it? Politics? Politics, Business

930
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: and Style? Right, all right now, before we get to

931
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: the issue at hand, that was you on our TV show.

932
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: So I read your book. I actually read it's it's

933
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: by the way, it's a fun book. It's a great read,

934
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: and you know what it has really entertaining Roger Stone

935
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: esque rules in there, which cracked me up because everybody

936
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: knows you're a character with a huge tattoo on your back, Um,

937
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: that you love to show the TV cameras, which also

938
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: makes me laugh. So every other rule is about how

939
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: to dress, and I'm looking at it, well, I'm a

940
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: total loser because I wear jeans and T shirts and

941
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: baseball hats on backwards and that's how I live my life.

942
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm never gonna pass that, I'm never

943
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: going to be a success in life. Actually not true.

944
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: I've never seen you on TV once in which you

945
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: didn't look Sure. You have great taste in neckties. A

946
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: lot of them are Trump ties. That's all true, and

947
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: I've been very upfront about it. I do like to

948
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: listen way before he was president, just to let everyone

949
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: calm their ass down. Um, you know, this is a

950
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: fascinating story to me, Um, and I've been watching you

951
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 1: actually believe Robert Muller has a target on your back

952
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: and that Robert Mueller may try to indict you and

953
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: for what reason? That's an excellent question. All my political

954
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: activities in sixteen towards electing Donald Trump are perfectly legal

955
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: and fully disclosed. I think I'm being persecuted because I'm

956
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: a supporter of the president. I'm a friend of ball

957
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: maniforts Uh, and I think they would like to find

958
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: some extraneous offense on which they could pressure me to

959
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: give them something on Donald Trump that Sean is something

960
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: that will never happen. Um, it's not a fun feeling.

961
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: Is to think that you have the power of a

962
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: special counsel and unlimited resources and a team that I've

963
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: talked an awful lot about why the rest of the

964
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: country doesn't seem concerned that that that the special Counsel,

965
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: Robert Muller is put together a team of only Democratic downers,

966
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: no Republican donors, no independent owners. And then Genie Ray,

967
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: who was a lawyer for the Clinton Foundation, that's part

968
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 1: of his team. We now know that there were three

969
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: trumpeting FBI guys that were a part of the team,

970
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: including Peter Struck himself, And we also know Andrew Weissman,

971
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: who has the most atrocious ethical record of any lawyer

972
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: I think I have ever heard of in the United States. Well,

973
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: he's he's the pit bull of Mr Muller, and that's

974
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,959
Speaker 1: troubling to me, and my big question is why doesn't

975
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: anyone else in the country seem to feel or understand

976
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: that that that is an abusively biased group of people. Well,

977
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: not only that, you're absolutely right having federal prosecutors poking

978
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: through every single moloch you of your personal life, your

979
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: business life, your your political activities, asking intensely personal questions

980
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: of my associates and former associations. How did he go

981
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: along with his wife, how's his relationship with his children?

982
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: Does he drink a lot? Does he use drugs? Where

983
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: does his money come from? Who are his clients? I

984
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: thought this was about Russian collusion, but it's clearly not.

985
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: This is a head squad. This is a Trump squad,

986
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: and their job is to undo the results of the

987
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: last election. Robert Mueller's record is atrocious. This is a

988
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: guy who arrested the wrong three guys in the anthrax matter.

989
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: The guy they did arrest, Dius mysteriously in custody, fails

990
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: to investigate reports of the Sarah Sonta flight school where

991
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: five of nine eleven hijackers are training. Who who lies

992
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: to leave four innocent guys in jail in Boston to

993
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: to protect at mafia in formants of the FBI and

994
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: who mules the uranium specimens to Moscow. In the uranium

995
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: one matter, when Lindsay Graham says he's widely respected on

996
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: a bipartisan basis, what was he talking about? I don't know.

997
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: I really you know, here is I think a real

998
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: big problem we have And go back to Judge Ellis

999
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: and what I thought was one of the biggest judicial

1000
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: beat downs from the bench I've ever seen. And when

1001
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: Judge Ellis said about the special counsel, let me see,

1002
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: I think I understand this that you go back to

1003
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: the Justice Department, you reopen a case from two thousand

1004
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: and five that has to do with tax fraud, has

1005
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Russia. You're supposedly investigating Russia collusion

1006
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: and you reopen that case, but it had to do

1007
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: with Ukraine and um. And then you what you want

1008
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: to do here is you want to put the screws

1009
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: his words, not mine, to Paul Manafort. So Paul Manafort

1010
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: begins to feel the heat and the pressure, and then

1011
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: he begins to sing or even compose his words meaning

1012
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: some war and perjury is my interpretation. And then, by

1013
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: the way, then you get to prosecute or impeached Donald Trump.

1014
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: That seems to be the obvious case that's going on here.

1015
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, he said that with Andrew Weisman

1016
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: in the courtroom, and it seems like that's what they're

1017
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: doing with everybody because they don't have any evidence on

1018
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: their own. But they're Achilles heel are the unconstitutional, illegal

1019
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: FAISA warrants that I believe were levied against Paul Manafort.

1020
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: Carter Page And according to The New York Times on

1021
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: January twenties seventeen, Roger Stone, the government in the Manafort

1022
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: case continues to insist that Manafort was never under surveillance

1023
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: at any time, even though The New York Times, The

1024
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: Washington Post, AP Fox have all repeated reported otherwise. They

1025
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about that illegal, politically based surveillance,

1026
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: which is why Manafort sitting in jail. That's why they're

1027
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: squeezing him to plead guilty, because they don't want to

1028
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: go to trial and answer that question. You know, it

1029
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: really is gonna be very interesting because, um, look, I've

1030
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: not had a lot of experience with judges in my life,

1031
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: but I do know this. You lie to with judge,

1032
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in deep trouble, and we know on

1033
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: four separate occasions, the original FISA warrant application and three

1034
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: subsequent applications, the final one, interestingly signed by Rod Rosenstein,

1035
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: UH used Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian lies,

1036
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: many that have been debunked. That was funneled money to

1037
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: a not research group, then to a foreign national who

1038
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: I thought wasn't supposed to influence American elections, who himself,

1039
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: under an interrogatory in Great Britain, said Uh that he

1040
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: didn't think any of the intelligence was verified or corroborated,

1041
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: and maybe it was fifty fifty And that becomes the

1042
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: basis of fiser warrants to spy on American citizens. Roger,

1043
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: that's not the United States of America. That's not constitutional.

1044
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: And is it coincidental that even today Rod Rosenstein is

1045
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: refusing to hand over information regarding those very vice wards

1046
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: to the Congress. This is that cover up. This is

1047
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: their Achilles heel, and they know it. A feisal warrant

1048
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: can only be issued against an American citizen if they

1049
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: are actively involved in espionage on behalf of a foreign

1050
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: power against the United States. That clearly was not the

1051
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: case here. This is much much worse than Watergate. This

1052
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: is the use of the power and the authority of

1053
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: the state to spy on Donald Trump's campaign for president.

1054
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: It's no, it's even worse than that though. No. They

1055
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: they literally put the fix in on Hillary Clinton, who

1056
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: did commit felonies and who did obstruct justice the case

1057
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: there's never been a more clear case of either the

1058
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: violation mishandling, destruction of classified information, violation of the espionage

1059
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: jack nor the obstruction of justice case, which is the

1060
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: leading subpoena at emails, acid washing your hard drive, and

1061
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: beating up your devices with hammers, And why do I

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Speaker 1: suspect if you did it, you would be handcuffed and

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Speaker 1: you'd be in solitary confinement like Paul Mantaport right now. Well,

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Speaker 1: and if we had a an Attorney general and an

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Speaker 1: assistant Attorney General committed to the rule of law, we

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Speaker 1: might be prosecuting those crimes. But instead we're covering up

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Speaker 1: an effort by the Obama Justice Department to rank the

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Speaker 1: previous presidential election. Let me ask you this, but you

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01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: recently added an addendum to your testimony. I think it

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01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: was before the House Intel Committee and Devin new know

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01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: and in that you said you wanted to add Apparently

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01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: Michael Caputo had asked you to meet with this particular

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Speaker 1: guy that I guess he said was Russian, but he

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01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: knew he was Russian. I didn't know he was rushing

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01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: until I met with him, and then it was pretty

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01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: clear from his accent. But yes, I simply just I

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01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: simply did not recall this. It was a twenty minute

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01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: meeting that was ludicrous, the idea that Trump would pay

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Speaker 1: two million dollars for documents. But as I said earlier,

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Speaker 1: I have no reason to dissemble or hide the meeting

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01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: because I acted properly. I rejected the effort. Uh and Uh,

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01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: you met with this guy for twenty minutes and it

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01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: turns out it was an FBI informant who actually was

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01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: from Russia but was on, you know, a visa because

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01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: I guess he had nine different visas given to be

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01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: an FBI informant even though he had committed violent felonies

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01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: in Russia. Yes, exactly, So how does the guy who

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01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: spent ten years in prison in Russia for a gun

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01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: crime enter the country? Hopefully the House Intelligence Committee will

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01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of why he was in the

1091
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: country or, more importantly, how he was in the country

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01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: in six CNN, by the way, reports this story today

1093
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: never mentions, not once, that he was an FBI informant,

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01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: as if they're not watching, they're not listening. It's extraordinary.

1095
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: So what do you do I mean? And what does

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01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: that mean that? You know, we have talked about the

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01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: FISA abuse, We've talked about the feloniese Hillary committed. We've

1098
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: talked about a rigged investigation and exoneration of written before

1099
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: an investigation. We've talked about in the IG report pointed

1100
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: out in unbelievable, shocking detail, the the hatred and antipathy

1101
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: towards the president and the love of Hillary and how

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01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: they went all in to help her and destroy him.

1103
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: And when you put all of this together, and then

1104
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: you've got spies literally in the Trump campaign and they

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01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: had there, They used the flying uh dossier to get

1106
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: these FISA warrants. How do you fix this abuse of

1107
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: power to this extent because you're still living through it.

1108
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean, do you fear you might get indicted? Do

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01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: you fear they're gonna bang in your door like they

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01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: did Manafort and you know, some early dawn raid with

1111
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: guns blazing. Well, uh, if I say yes, then uh

1112
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: MSNBC will report that Stone fears his criminal culpability in

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01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: extrane these crimes. It's entirely possible, but it would have

1114
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: to be contrived. Um, let me go back to this,

1115
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: this addendum that you gave or addition you gave to

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01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: your testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, Devin new Ness's committee,

1117
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: and and this meeting with this individual that wanted you

1118
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: to pay him two million dollars for op research on Hillary.

1119
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: And I think the first thing we've got to point

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01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: out is op research and paying for oper research is

1121
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: pretty much standard operating procedure in politics today. Right. Well,

1122
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: actually you rarely pay for it, but it's offered to you,

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01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: and most of it is garbage. As a political professional,

1124
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 1: irresponsible not to check it out and see if there's

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01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: anything of value. Well that's my point. He never and

1126
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: he never described it as emails. He never told me

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01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: what it was. I just thought it was a con

1128
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: job at the time, just to shake down for money.

1129
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: Why did you think? Why did you not remember when

1130
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: you're testified considering this whole thing was about Trump Russia collusion,

1131
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: Because just knowing the media, they want to jump on

1132
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: anything that can I think as I really, Roger didn't remember.

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01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: Here's why, because it was May of sixteen and Hillary

1134
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: had not yet played the Russia card. Russo phobia had

1135
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: not yet been an issue. People say, two million dollars,

1136
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: that's not a lot of money. I found Donald Trump

1137
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: as a friend of his and a confidante of his

1138
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: and a consultant to him for thirty nine years. He's

1139
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: a billionaire. He had said publicly he would spend whatever

1140
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: it took. I've seen people try to get millions out

1141
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: of him four years. So the number was not jarring.

1142
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: It was unrealistic because Trump was not paying for any

1143
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: opposition research. He spent less than anybody character using an alias,

1144
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: So that that's interesting. So this was in May sixteen.

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01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: Russia wasn't on the radar in any way at that time,

1146
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: and you're basically you sit with this guy, you think

1147
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: he's a fraud, and you just see, okay, good two

1148
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: million dollars from someone else, and you just forget it

1149
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: and move on. And then you never brought it to

1150
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: the president or anybody in his campaign. Correct. I never

1151
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: discussed it with Donald Trump as candidate or as president,

1152
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: never discussed it with anyone in the campaign because it

1153
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: was a ludicrous idea. It was not kill. Caputo was

1154
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: interviewed by Robert Mueller's people, who, by the way, seemed

1155
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: to know all about this interestingly enough uh that it

1156
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: jarred his member. In other words, that would be an

1157
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: f B I informant And you believe a set up

1158
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: set up in other words, for you exactly about Russia,

1159
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: which is an interesting It's interesting in terms of the

1160
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: timeline because nobody was thinking about Russia that But it

1161
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: is about the time that the Australian ambassador reaches out

1162
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: for Papadopolis the way they didn't. They didn't meet in

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01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: the bar. This was free scheduled uh, And I have

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01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: I believe that is the case. Well, many it was

1165
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: the month that struck and call me, we're writing the exoneration.

1166
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: But they wouldn't interview Hillary until July. But yet that

1167
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: exoneration was being written with the term uh, gross negligence

1168
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: in it. And the fact that it was likely foreign

1169
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: entities that hacked into Hillary's email by the way, everybody

1170
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: hacked into that email server of hers, everybody apparently, Well,

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01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: I believe that to be the case. As I said

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01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: on your TV show the other night. I believe this

1173
01:06:55,120 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: is the earlier manifestation of the Peter Strap insurance policy.

1174
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: This is very clearly an FBI sting, which fortunately I

1175
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: reject out of hand. The whole thing was over in

1176
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Good for you. I bet you're glad you did.

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01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean, even though the guy shows meeting wearing a

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01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: Maga hat and a Trump T shirt. Why are we

1179
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: inviting not Why are we inviting violent felons and sending

1180
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: them into political campaigns but only one campaign. It's a

1181
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: question we need an answer to. Roger Stone, Thank you

1182
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: for me with us, Thanks for having me. I just

1183
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: want to take a moment. And Charles Crowdhammer passed away.

1184
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny. We didn't agree on on

1185
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: every political issue, but we had a great relationship, and

1186
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: the relationship really took on a very personal side. And

1187
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: I have this is a personal story that I have

1188
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: with him. And it gave Charles Crowdhammer great joy to

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01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: tell the story at dinners that he was attending to

1190
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: tell the story and speeches that he gave to tell

1191
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: the story in the book that he wrote. And then

1192
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: eventually after the book, he came on on Hannity the

1193
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: TV show and and then he literally told the story

1194
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 1: on air, and to me, it's a story that reflects

1195
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: and defines profile and courage. Now, look, if you really

1196
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: if it's I think it's very hard. I think we

1197
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: all live in our own little bubble worlds because you know,

1198
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: we have to survive, and we're busy and we're raising

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01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: our kids, and you know, we're working hard, and it's

1200
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: governments take him more and it's tough, and you know

1201
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: you're grinding it out day by day by day. And

1202
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody in life particularly has it that easy.

1203
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think money can help, but I don't

1204
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: think money defines happiness. It's not a cliche, it's a reality.

1205
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: And I've lived in both worlds, having none and having some,

1206
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: and I definitely prefer the latter. But it was something

1207
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 1: about if you have the ability city to just see

1208
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: the life others live and have any sense of human

1209
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: compassion and empathy, you can look at somebody like Charles

1210
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: Crownhammer and just think of the average day for him.

1211
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: He was sixty eight years old and he became a doctor,

1212
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: and he's in his twenties and he has a horrific

1213
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: car accident and now for the rest of his life,

1214
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: he's paralyzed pretty much from the neck down. And long

1215
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: story short, and I think this defines it. But every

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01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: day of his life, getting up, waking up, eating breakfast,

1217
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: getting dressed, taking a shower, getting to a car, every

1218
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: single thing that we do without thinking is a huge,

1219
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: massive ordeal for him. I never really saw him without

1220
01:09:56,439 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: you know, he was impeccably dressed constantly and looking his

1221
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: best always. And all the years that I had read

1222
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: his columns and interviewed him, I didn't know he was

1223
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair. I did not know his life story. Now.

1224
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: He was always in Washington, d C. And I'm I'm

1225
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: sort of my headquarters is in New York City, And

1226
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, I always just when I'm interviewing somebody,

1227
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,879
Speaker 1: I'm I think I've gotten better at being an interviewer

1228
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: because I try to listen to what people say now

1229
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: and I don't coin with a million prepared questions because

1230
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm prepared, I have it in front of me. I

1231
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 1: did all my research. But if you don't listen, you

1232
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: can't have a real conversation and ask the natural follow

1233
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: up question. If you're just thinking about what the next

1234
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: question is, and I want to be the best I

1235
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: can be at what I do. And over the years,

1236
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: I mean the people that have taught me to be

1237
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: a better host of Frankly, you this audience, because I

1238
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: read feedback about what you say about me and what

1239
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: you say about the show and what you prefer and

1240
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: I listen. It's one of the reasons I kind of

1241
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 1: of up the debate format um in in so many ways,

1242
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: because people can't stand people shouting over each other, and

1243
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: so I just try to listen. I try to be

1244
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 1: my best anyway. So when I first met Charles, it

1245
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 1: was in Washington, d C. I don't remember the exact

1246
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: date or time, and I hadn't known he was in

1247
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: a wheelchair. And I said, Charles, I just never knew.

1248
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: When I'm embarrassed. I should have known this. I should

1249
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: have you know no more about your life and about

1250
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: your background, and and he just laughed and he laughed

1251
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: it off, and I apologize to him, and an he

1252
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: laughed harder, and I'm like, Okay, I'm feeling pretty stupid here,

1253
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: but if it makes you laugh, I'm cool with it.

1254
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: That's okay. Anyway, it turns out that that story became

1255
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: a real source of pride for him, because I came

1256
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: to know later a lot of people didn't know, and

1257
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 1: he told me, he goes, you have no idea. After

1258
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: I told that story, so many people wrote me, so

1259
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: many people called me, so many people told me they

1260
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: didn't know either. And he absolutely loved it. And the

1261
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 1: reason he loved it is because in spite of trials

1262
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: and tribulations that we all don't have to go through

1263
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: every day. And I see this with a lot of

1264
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 1: military guys that have had their legs blown off and

1265
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: their arms blown off and their faces disfigured. I ask

1266
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: every one of them, how do you deal with it?

1267
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: I mean emotionally, it's the toughest thing you now. Your

1268
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: life has changed forever, it's been altered. And Charles I

1269
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 1: I a friend of mine, wrote me his story worked

1270
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: with him years ago when I guess he was at

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Speaker 1: the New Republic and said, Charles Crowdhammer used to take

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Speaker 1: a pencil and put it in his mouth and on

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01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: an old computer before they have these dictation programs that

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01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: are now available, that a phenomenal technology is phenomenal for

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01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: people that have any kind of disability or handicap. I

1276
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 1: mean it's it's so great that that people can invent

1277
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: things that make other people's lives easier. I just love inventions.

1278
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: Used to go to the invention convention. So anyway, that's

1279
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: what that's how hard he worked. Imagine you have to

1280
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: get out of bed and that's hard. You have to

1281
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: take a shower, that's hard. You have to eat, that's hard.

1282
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: You have to get to the car, so that's hard.

1283
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: You have to get out of the car, and that's hard.

1284
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: Every every just everything's complicated. Nothing is easy anymore, and

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01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 1: it's it's an ordeal. So Charles then took that story

1286
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 1: and he ended up putting it on his book, But

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01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: it also at dinner parties because word got back to

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: me and in speeches, and word got back to me

1289
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: and and it became between the two of us something

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01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 1: that kind of defined our relationship. And it was me

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01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 1: learning about and a man that absolutely refused to be

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01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: defined by one of the huff Iss physical challenges anybody

1293
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 1: can have. Now, I know a lot of us think

1294
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: we have problems. I know I do, I whine, I complain.

1295
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: Look at Linda, she's shaking her head. Yep, you do yup?

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01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: You all right? Stop? Why are you making fun of me?

1297
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: I never make fun of you. I always support you,

1298
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: all right, but true, right, I mean we all think

1299
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: we have problems, and then you look at what Charles

1300
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: Crauhamer had to do every day to get to his job.

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01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 1: And then he's got to type out a column, you know,

1302
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: with a pencil and then typing it into computer. Imagine

1303
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: you misspell a words like oh, now you gotta go

1304
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: hit the backspace and you gotta do it, and then

1305
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so hard. But he did it all

1306
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: and he pushed through. And I just loved that about him,

1307
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: and it was to me the embodiment of a profile

1308
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: and courage. His entire life became a profile, profile of courage,

1309
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: of what you can do in spite of the massive

1310
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: obstacles that you're clearly and obviously racing every day. And

1311
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: the fact that that story helped him, it's sort of

1312
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 1: validated for him that people didn't see him as a

1313
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: guy in a wheelchair, that it that people saw him

1314
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: for his heart, his incredibly brilliant and keen intellect, and

1315
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: for the great patriot that he is. He loved this

1316
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: country and he did move the debate, and we didn't

1317
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: always agree. Sometimes he frustrated me. Other times I'm like,

1318
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: that's genius. That wasn't what our relationship was based on.

1319
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: And I then when his book finally came out and

1320
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 1: he told the story in the book, and like I said,

1321
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: you're making a living off this story and it totally

1322
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: humiliates me. And he loved it. And that's why I

1323
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: chose this clip to air on TV last night. I'm

1324
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: gonna play the audio here. And by the way, I

1325
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: love the fact that you you gave a speech one

1326
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: day and you told the story about me and all

1327
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,839
Speaker 1: the years that we had known h they're calling you

1328
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: go ahead, you can mock me on national TV. I

1329
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: don't market laughing. You know, I'm always surprised that you're

1330
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: upset by that. I am. I think it's it's the

1331
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: most charming story and it is. You know, I told

1332
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: it again on the special that Brett bar did. He

1333
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: prompted me. He was sort of the provocateur there. I said,

1334
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, Sean doesn't really like it, but it's a

1335
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: wonderful story and it just shows I mean, I like

1336
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: it because it shows how, you know, I haven't made

1337
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: this fact that I'm in a wheelchair. Uh, sort of

1338
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: the center of my life. And the fact that you

1339
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: weren't even aware of it, I thought it was lovely.

1340
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 1: So it was a way to compliment you. Well, no,

1341
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 1: I listen, it's a it's a friendly story that we

1342
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: have between the two of us, and you know, but

1343
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: the story is really inspiring. The special was fantastic, by

1344
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: the way, and uh, it's it's it's it reminds all

1345
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: of us that think we have problems sometimes that people

1346
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: are everybody has problems, and some people are struggling with

1347
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: some really incredible things. And your ability to overcome I

1348
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: found inspiring. So thank you. And I'm just you know,

1349
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't understand death. I

1350
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 1: I've been fascinated in my life that the human mind

1351
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: if we really just stand back and put our problems

1352
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: and clear our minds and just look and you look

1353
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: at you know, a blade of grass and the tiniest aunt,

1354
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: and then you build it into the minds of human beings,

1355
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: everything in the the animal kingdom, everything in nature. Then

1356
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: you look to the clouds and the sun and the

1357
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 1: stars and gravity, and then you think of a massive,

1358
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: huge universe. And now we've discovered universes within universes, within universes,

1359
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: and then you know, people have near death experiences and

1360
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: they describe a peace and a serenity and and something

1361
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: that we can't even comprehend on this earth. And the

1362
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 1: Bible tells us that every hair of our heads counted,

1363
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: and you just you know, my faith, my belief in God,

1364
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: and I'm a Christian and Jesus, it just tells me that,

1365
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, that's a time when we're made whole. And

1366
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: I pray that for Charles Croudhammer. I really, I really

1367
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: loved this guy as a man. He was a profile

1368
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 1: and courage and he taught me a lot. And it's

1369
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: not something he ever knew that he really taught me.

1370
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: And he taught me courage and he taught me, you

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01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: know what, this life is hard to deal with it

1372
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: because he showed us every day to the top of

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01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: the hour as well. Let's see here twenty five to

1374
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: six am here top of the hour a m in Singapore. Anyway, Um,

1375
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: we're still in Singapore. We had to stay so we

1376
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: can get the i G Report to you tomorrow and

1377
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: full and comprehensive coverage of all of that which we

1378
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: will be bringing you on radio NTV. We will have

1379
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: Hannity tonight live nine Eastern on the Fox News channel.

1380
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: And I had the interview in the opportunity to sit

1381
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: down with the President after he had this historic meeting

1382
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: with Kim Jong un. We now have an update. Kim

1383
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: Jong un, according to North Korean press, has accepted the

1384
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: President's invitation. He will be coming to the United States,

1385
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,600
Speaker 1: which is a good sign. And so I want to

1386
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: play the interview that I had in the exact room

1387
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: where they first sat down and met. And this is

1388
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: me talking to the President right after this all took place. President,

1389
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Historic day. Let's just I think

1390
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: most people like me want to know what was going

1391
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: on in that room one on one. Well, the big

1392
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: thing is this is now my twenty fifth hour of

1393
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: being up and negotiating, and we've been negotiating very hard.

1394
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: This is about the complete, verifiable, irreversible de nuclearization of

1395
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: the entire peninsula. So without that we could not have

1396
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: had a deal. I mean, do one thing after we

1397
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: want to d nuke the entire peninsula. We want to

1398
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: d nuke that whole situation that is a hotbed. And

1399
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: you know what's been happening for years and nobody did

1400
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: anything about it, and you have to, We have no choice.

1401
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: We had to. The relationship was really good, you know,

1402
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: it built and I talked about early on in the

1403
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: relationship and the feeling, well, we had a very good

1404
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: feel right from the beginning, and we were able to

1405
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: get something very important done. And actually some thing's happened

1406
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: after that. Was sein shown where we're getting rid of

1407
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: certain missile research areas, certain missile testing sites, and they're

1408
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: getting rid of a lot, you know, in the lead

1409
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: up to this, and this was pretty amazing because obviously

1410
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm a pretty strong critic of our news media in

1411
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: the country. But a lot had happened. He had dismantled

1412
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: a nuclear test site, he crossed over the DMZ, three

1413
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: hostages were released, the missile stopped being fired. He was willing.

1414
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have come here if he did not, if

1415
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: he was not willing to talk about d nuclearization. That's right.

1416
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: So all of that happened before you walked in. And

1417
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't remember that you send cargo planes of cash

1418
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: or gave anything really for the lead up. Why do

1419
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: you not? Why do you think he's interested in doing

1420
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,839
Speaker 1: this after spending that time with those sort of interesting

1421
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: because I noticed some of the president. I'm not even

1422
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: knocking him because honestly, they're treating me very good on

1423
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: the subject what's to treat badly? But some of the

1424
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: press would say he's meeting with them, and therefore he

1425
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: has a major loss. I said, since when, and you know,

1426
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: others wanted to. It never worked out. It probably never

1427
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: could have worked out. But we really have gotten a lot.

1428
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: You haven't seen missiles going up in seven or eight months,

1429
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:33,560
Speaker 1: you haven't seen research, you haven't seen nuclear tests. Very importantly,

1430
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: Japan is very happy because they were being encircled. I mean,

1431
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: there was a period of time when they were going

1432
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: right over the middle of Japan and we got our

1433
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 1: hostages back. And you're right, we didn't pay for that.

1434
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: But but I think I don't say that in a

1435
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: braggadocious way at all, because he did such a smart thing,

1436
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: because that was such a good, a good thing to do.

1437
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: And I feel so badly about Otto warm beer. That

1438
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 1: was the one thing and Otto did not die in

1439
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: I actually believe, and I've gotten very friendly without us. Parents.

1440
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,600
Speaker 1: They're incredible people, devastated as they you know, as you

1441
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: would think great parents. He was a great young man.

1442
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: But I think without Otto, this whole thing wouldn't have happened,

1443
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: because it crystallized when he came back in the condition.

1444
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: It crystallized so much to so many people, maybe even

1445
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,759
Speaker 1: to the other side, frankly, but I think that Otto

1446
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: truly did not die in Vain. I've known you for

1447
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: a lot of years, and I think one trait that

1448
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,879
Speaker 1: I could say is brutal honesty in the room alone

1449
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: and then the subsequent talks with your team and their team,

1450
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: How honest, how brutal? What was said to try and

1451
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 1: bring people into the room. So we got along very well.

1452
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: We got along from the beginning. We started off he

1453
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: and myself and two interpreters, and from the beginning we

1454
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: got along. And you know, I've made the statement, and

1455
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 1: I've said it before. I've said it about a lot

1456
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: of different kinds of relationships. You can almost tell read

1457
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: at the beginning. There are a lot of people critics

1458
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: quickly saying when you said a little rocket man or

1459
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: fire and fury, or you know, when he said, oh,

1460
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: I've got a red button on my desk, he said, well,

1461
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 1: mine's bigger and it works better than yours. How did

1462
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,759
Speaker 1: we how did it evolve from that to this because

1463
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: he did say at the very beginning, we're going to

1464
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: basically start over, and but that has been building behind

1465
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: the scenes. Well, I think without the rhetoric, we wouldn't

1466
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: have been here. I really believe that. You know, we

1467
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: did sanctions and all of the things that you would do,

1468
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: but I think without the rhetoric, you know, other administrations,

1469
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to get specific on that, but they

1470
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: had a policy of silence if they said something very

1471
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: bad and very threatening and horrible, because don't answer. That's

1472
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: not the answer, that's not what you have to do.

1473
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: So I think the rhetoric. I hated to do it

1474
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 1: sometimes I felt foolish doing it, but we had no choice.

1475
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: So strategically you were doing it. Well yeah, I mean,

1476
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: but and I think he gained respect. You know, he's

1477
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: a strong guy. Hey, people were saying, what's he like.

1478
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 1: He's got a very good personality. He's funny, and he's

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Speaker 1: very very smart. He's a great negotiator, and he's a

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Speaker 1: very strategic kind of a guy. One of the points

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Speaker 1: that I think surprised everybody. I think every American should

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Speaker 1: be very happy about this is the Korean war which

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Speaker 1: has gone on for so long. More importantly, there are

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Speaker 1: still American remains there and they will be repatrioted. Remains

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Speaker 1: are coming back, and we got that at the end.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we have some things that you don't even

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Speaker 1: have in the report. We put in a teleporting what

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Speaker 1: we signed, the missile sites that they used for the

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01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: launching of missiles and missile research areas. That's going to

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Speaker 1: be gone. But we made a lot of progress, tremendous

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Speaker 1: amount of progress. And one of the things that I'm

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Speaker 1: very happy about. We're not going to play the war

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Speaker 1: game games anymore, which you know how expensive that is.

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Speaker 1: We're finding this mess of bombers in for practice from Guam.

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Speaker 1: I said, how far as Guam six and a half hours,

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Speaker 1: So I said, that's a long way for a big

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Speaker 1: bomber times you know, twenty and lots of other planes

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Speaker 1: coming in. So we're not going to be doing the

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Speaker 1: war games as long as we're negotiating in good faith.

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Speaker 1: So that's good for a number of reasons, in addition

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01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: to which we save a tremendous amount of money, you

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Speaker 1: know those things. Of course, I hate to sound like

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01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,799
Speaker 1: upure business man, but I kept saying what's this costing?

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Speaker 1: I would look at them coming in from the sea

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01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 1: and bombs exploding every I said, what does this cost?

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to tell you, but it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: So we're not going to be doing that as long

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Speaker 1: as we're negotiating in good faith, which I think we will.

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Speaker 1: You managed the expectations, I think pretty well. You didn't

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Speaker 1: think coming in here you were going to sign an agreement,

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Speaker 1: and you said maybe it takes two, three, four or

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Speaker 1: five meetings, but you were open to going as fast

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Speaker 1: as slow as he wanted. We get along better than

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Speaker 1: I would have right from the beginning. We gotta lot

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Speaker 1: more done today than I ever thought possible. And he's

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Speaker 1: going back. He's now headed back, and he I think

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Speaker 1: he's going back to get this done. He wants to

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Speaker 1: get it done. You know, you hear the whole thing

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Speaker 1: about his father and other administrations or his grandfather. The

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01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 1: fact is that he and he brings that up, but

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Speaker 1: they weren't dealing with me. They were dealing with different

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01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: people have different nobody's ever come close to talked about

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01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: the difference between past administrations and yours. Yes, but I

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Speaker 1: can't say that because I don't want to be the

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01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 1: one saying it at some point, I'm sure he'll say it.

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Speaker 1: But they never got it done and they were never

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Speaker 1: this gloves either. I mean, it was never to a

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Speaker 1: point where they were like we are. Is there is

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Speaker 1: there a history lesson to learn here? And I think

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Speaker 1: in one sense we could talk about past administrations. Reagan,

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01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: evil Empire. Mr Gorbert's off tear down this wall. His

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Speaker 1: own advisers didn't want it, to take those words out

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Speaker 1: of that speech. And you compare Bill Clinton gave Kim

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Speaker 1: Jongun's father three billion dollars in energy subsidut tmendous amount

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Speaker 1: of money the moles in Iran. You have said, the

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Speaker 1: worst deal in the history of mankind. That's the worst

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Speaker 1: deal I've ever seen. Worse than NAFTA, and I think

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01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: NAFTA is pretty bad. Worse than the w t O,

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Speaker 1: the World Trade Organization, which frankly built China in addition

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Speaker 1: to the money that we gave them all the time,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, these were terrible deals, but I

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Speaker 1: would say that the randeal was one of the worst

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01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: I've ever said. I will say speaking of the Errand deal,

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01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: since we got out of that deal and we could

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01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: do it very easily because they never had it approved

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Speaker 1: by Congress. Who was just prist must be approved by Congress.

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01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to be approved by Congress because otherwise it's

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01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 1: really doesn't mean very much. I wanted I would think

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01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: anybody would want to approved by Congress. But since we

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01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: took out of that deals, we got out of that deal.

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Speaker 1: I think Iran is a much different place. I don't

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01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 1: think they're looking so much to the Mediterranean and Syria

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01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,759
Speaker 1: and Yemen. Uh, they're starting to pull people out of Yemen.

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Speaker 1: They're starting to pull people out of Syria. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a whole different thing. Now. I did it for

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01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: nuclear but one of the side benefits is you take

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01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: a look, a serious look, and Iran is not the

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Speaker 1: country that it was three or four months ago, when

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01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 1: they were much more embold and will. Certainly, sanctions played

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01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: a big part part the strike forces that you sent

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Speaker 1: into the regional and I think at a certain point, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I know the Iranian people, I know many people from

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01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: around these are great people. I really believe at some

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Speaker 1: point they're going to come back and want to negotiate

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Speaker 1: a deal. Did reunification come up, did humanitarian issues come up?

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Speaker 1: In the meeting. Yes it did. And one of the

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Speaker 1: things I will tell you that I'm most happy about,

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Speaker 1: and that, as you know, is a big sticking point,

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01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: is bringing back the remains of thousands of soldiers that

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Speaker 1: were killed. This came up last minute. This wasn't This

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01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 1: was sort of last minute. YEA, would it be possible?

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Speaker 1: Because I get letters all the time from families who

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Speaker 1: lost a son and lost a brother, lost father in Korea.

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Speaker 1: That was a rough fight and they were buried along

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Speaker 1: the roadways. They were buried as you know, soldiers going

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01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 1: back and forth into battle, and they were burying them

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01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: along roadways and they saying, please, please, could you do it?

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01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: I get so many letters from people who lost a

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Speaker 1: loved one in in North Korea, essentially in North Korea,

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Speaker 1: and I would say, I'm going to try, and I

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01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: brought it up, and I'll tell you what, it was

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01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: almost immediate. Now in the past it was you couldn't

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01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: even talk about it. But it was really a nice response.

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01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 1: How quickly, um, did you talk about a trip to

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Speaker 1: the United States? Did you talk about it? I think

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Speaker 1: at the right time, he'll be absolutely be coming to

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Speaker 1: the White House. Yeah. Look, we've been very it's been

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01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: a very intense relationship. It's been short and very intense.

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Speaker 1: And of course before that it was pretty rhetorical. It was,

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01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 1: you know, not a pretty thing. People were very worried.

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Speaker 1: But without that, I don't think we would have been

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01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: here today. He wants to get something done. I want

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01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: to get something done. I think we'll get it done.

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Speaker 1: And we've started off by really a very strong document.

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01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:04,759
Speaker 1: I think people are surprised to see it. They shocked

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01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 1: to see it. And then add some more things that

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01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: we got after that was side and so can you

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01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 1: give us maybe a glimpse into what you keeps sort

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01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 1: of referring a little bit to things that will be

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01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: coming that. So I just think that we are now

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01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: going to start the process of the nuclearization of North Korea.

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01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: And I believe that he's going back and we'll started

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01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: virtually immediately, and he's already indicated that. And you look

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01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 1: at what he's done. So we got our hostages back,

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01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 1: but they've blown up one of their sites, one of

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01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 1: their testing sites, their primary testing site. In fact, some

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01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 1: people say they're only testing site. They're getting rid of

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01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,560
Speaker 1: a missile, which isn't in the document that was done afterwards,

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01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 1: they're getting rid of a missile testing site. They're doing

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01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: so much now. So it's a process and it's it's

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01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: really moving rapidly. Last question, because I know you have

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01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: a lot to do. Um Obviously he wants something on

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01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 1: his end, certainly wants the the world community once sanctions lifted.

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01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: He wants economic opportunity. Is people needed desperately or people starving? There?

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01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: What he wants to security and I understand that and

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01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 1: he'll get that. And he wants to see if they

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01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: can make that incredible location because it's an incredible it's

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01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,640
Speaker 1: between China and South kore Think of it. I'm in

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01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: the real estate business. Think of that is prosper personally,

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01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: how good a location is that you have China and

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01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 1: you have South Korea. He's got right in the middle

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01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,759
Speaker 1: of both of them, surrounded by water. Okay, that's called

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01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 1: like there be anything better than that. And it's also

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01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 1: beautiful land. It's incredible land. I know you have a

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01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 1: lot to do, Mr President, Thanks for being generous with

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Speaker 1: your thank congratulations, Thank you very much, appreciate it.