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Speaker 5: All right, cold open today. Wow, I'm right into it.

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Speaker 5: It is Thursday here at Jillette Stadium, and it's a

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Speaker 5: full crew. It's Deuce, it's Alex, it's Evan, Paul, myself. Uh,

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Speaker 5: it's Jules and Matt in the booth. So we're gonna

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Speaker 5: talk about everything that's going on. Obviously, yesterday was the opening,

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Speaker 5: the official opening of free agency, and uh, we're going

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Speaker 5: to talk about the Calvin Ridley situation. But you know,

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Speaker 5: I first, let's just get everybody up to speed, maybe

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Speaker 5: Deuce or Evan with a list of so far the

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Speaker 1: Oh God, you want all of them?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yesterday, No, I want all of them.

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Speaker 6: I got a whole list I got.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna run right down on offense re signed Hunter, Henry, uh,

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Speaker 7: Chuck Chucks got God.

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Speaker 6: I don't got that one down. It's a kor of four.

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Speaker 7: Kendrick Bourne, three year deal, Tonio Gibson three year deal,

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Speaker 7: Michael and won You three year deal, Jacoby Brissett one

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Speaker 6: Is that Hewst? Is it?

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Speaker 7: Clevert Leverver Lever Leverette an offensive lineman. We're not sure

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Speaker 7: with a max of twenty four And finally, yesterday's defensive

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Speaker 7: line signing Arman Watts a one year, three million dollar deal.

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Speaker 1: I like the Watts.

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Speaker 7: I like Watts too. I like Watson Jenning. Those are

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Speaker 1: Watson Watson, talkie talkie. Don't don't sleep on them. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying that they're Hall of Fame players, but I'm going to.

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Speaker 6: Sleep on talking talking.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to sleep on them because I think he's

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Speaker 7: like the fourth flynebacker and he's not gonna play over

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Speaker 6: That's possibly a little bit on him.

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Speaker 1: But I like different staff. I like Watts, and I

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Speaker 1: I think they're much different players. I think Watts is

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Speaker 1: a much more disruptive pass rusher than Lawrence Guy was.

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Speaker 1: If Watts was on the Patriots last year, the only

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Speaker 1: guy with the higher pass rush win rate on the

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Speaker 1: Patriots last year was Christian Barmore. So he can get

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Speaker 5: So they've made a lot of moves, you know, whether

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Speaker 5: it's bringing back their own people or building that middle class.

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Speaker 5: You know, the if you want to call at the

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Speaker 8: You know, why are you looking at that? Wasn't me

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Speaker 5: Those are things in addition to trying to get the

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Speaker 7: Too, sure, but let's just say it.

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Speaker 6: It's disappointing.

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Speaker 7: It's disappointing.

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Speaker 6: You had a lot of money, so I wanted.

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Speaker 5: To get that out first. You know what they've done

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Speaker 7: I liked that they offered a competitive you know. I

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Speaker 7: Was Calvin Ridley a franchise altering receiver.

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Speaker 5: No, but he'd be the best receiver run.

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Speaker 7: But it's part of though, it's part of the whole

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Speaker 5: What disappoints to me the most is if you got Ridley.

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Speaker 5: Not that it solves your wide receiver, but it takes

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Speaker 1: That's what we were talking about on catch twenty two

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Speaker 1: is just that it makes it you can't You only

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Speaker 1: So now you really have a major need at quarterback, tackle, receiver,

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Speaker 5: But they feel the cheap well they tried, I mean

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Speaker 9: And remember when you guys used to make fun of

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Speaker 5: When all things are even those things come into play.

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Speaker 5: You know. Okay, so should the Patriots have well for

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's you know, it's just I mean, we

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Speaker 6: It with that there would be some splashes. You know what.

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Speaker 7: I think what's disappointing is just there's not a lot

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Speaker 7: They need to hit on the top three picks like

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Speaker 5: Are really the only valuable assets they have right now

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Speaker 5: is picks one, two, and three. You know all they

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Speaker 5: That's the problem. Yeah, that's the problem. Ridley was free

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Speaker 1: They have probably fifty five million dollars in cap space

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Speaker 8: Have you heard something? I mean, but have you heard

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Speaker 5: I know one. I've said it on this show many times.

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Speaker 5: I've read, the Cowboys really bent over backwards for him,

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Speaker 5: No, I've always known what I've always known, good Mike, No,

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Speaker 5: I know I've always known about you know, his issues.

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Speaker 7: Because I saw pop up and he kind of clapped

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Speaker 8: I'm not injuries or injuries like you get like sort

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Speaker 8: of what's the right word, concessions made in terms of

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Speaker 1: Schedule because you hurt?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like is he not?

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Speaker 8: You know, like to me, a lot would be like

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Speaker 8: going way back the way back machine. Bill Belichick used

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Speaker 8: to give Roman fight for you know, the beginning of

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Speaker 5: That's that was the condition in signing here.

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Speaker 8: You know, Like that to me is not that I'm

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Speaker 8: saying that Roman Fifer was a bad person.

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Speaker 1: Because he was going on with family.

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying that's a concession that not everybody yet.

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Speaker 8: If you're hurt and they say, you know what, we

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Speaker 8: sure you take care of your body. That's Willy McGinnis. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Now, but I don't think he's you know, Trent Brown

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Speaker 8: million that it would have taken to get Calvin.

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Speaker 1: Ridley, and I would have liked that.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I don't think it's Heidget's fans are going to

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Speaker 8: sign maybe Marquise Brown and say, whould you rather have

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Speaker 1: Or whatever it ends up being. And I would say,

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Speaker 5: But I don't think it's a matter of the total budget,

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Speaker 5: I think they look at it as how much are

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Speaker 5: Because I don't think it would have the deal wouldn't

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Speaker 8: I don't think you did, at least you were. I

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Speaker 8: you had to significantly beat Tennessee because Tennessee's like you.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 5: But but again the other the other things, like the incomesto.

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Speaker 8: Give them a half a million more. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 8: if I don't have to significantly blow that. Like Jack,

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Speaker 8: I think he wanted to stay in Jacksonville. So to me,

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Speaker 8: I'm finding out now Jacksonville was under twenty. That to

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Speaker 9: That's why I wonder if we were just like a

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Speaker 1: I don't know it's possible. I think his agent, David Marlgatta,

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Speaker 5: I heard like somebody say, you know, Calvin Ridley, he

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Speaker 5: in the cold. It gets cold in Tennessee. It's not

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Speaker 5: like he's playing in Florida.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everywhere, but Florida really and listen.

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Speaker 8: I would also like to see what the Patriots twenty

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Speaker 5: That's a good point in how much of the Patriots

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Speaker 8: People might look at and say, well, you off at

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Maybe right, but they might have been doing like some

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Speaker 1: These roster bonuses, per game roster bonuses, and they're still

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Speaker 6: Same with Bourne's too, I think is that it could

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Speaker 8: From twelve to twenty four, mighty double his twelve to

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Speaker 7: I just say though, though the part for me people

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Speaker 7: I don't need Tyler Boyd, Like it's just another one

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Speaker 1: But they've shown interest in now I'm zero just like

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Speaker 7: I think he's a little you want to talk about

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Speaker 7: trading for t Higgins, I'll listen to, like acquiring that

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Speaker 7: I don't need another.

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Speaker 6: Oh I've heard of him.

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Speaker 7: He's like they need a guy. And I think that's

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Speaker 7: just have to take it up the tailpipe. Next year,

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Speaker 7: gonna have another chance to get some guys. But you know,

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Speaker 1: One or two.

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Speaker 1: Everybody.

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Speaker 8: I hear a lot on the radio like, well, you're

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Speaker 1: Right? I would also just say that, you know, I've

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Speaker 8: Let's get really crazy and have Evans thing happened, And

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Speaker 5: And when it gets time to pay one of those

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: So that's the way it works.

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Speaker 7: I mean I'll preface this with I kind of like

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Speaker 1: not saying it's fair. I'm with Mike though this We

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Speaker 1: He's not a starter. He's a third tackle. I know

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Speaker 7: And then like one more thing just to like kind

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Speaker 1: Helped me out? Has he ever played left? He maybe

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Speaker 8: Bill Bill told told us that a million times. It's

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Speaker 7: Right right, And so I I just don't get it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think, you know, I'm fine with letting

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Speaker 6: Like, loveritt, you know, a little evertt, little flair evert

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Speaker 5: I looked at him. Why not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a lot of money.

441
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Speaker 5: Fifty three guys in the rock.

442
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Speaker 1: It's fine. He's not a roster.

443
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Speaker 8: I feel like they have a lot of guys like

444
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Speaker 8: that on the interior.

445
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Speaker 1: They don't.

446
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Speaker 8: If if this guy was a tackle, I would friend,

447
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Speaker 8: I would say why not if he was a tackle?

448
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Speaker 8: But he's kind of he started like a hand of

449
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,959
Speaker 8: games only because of injury one year. Other than that,

450
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,840
Speaker 8: he's been a practice squad, fringe roster player in Tampta.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

452
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Speaker 7: I mean you're looking at a Frankenstein offensive line right now,

453
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Speaker 7: which look but as Evan laid out, frank like Frankenstein,

454
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Speaker 7: you're taking.

455
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Speaker 5: It should be really because Frankenstein was the Fraankenstein.

456
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Speaker 6: Sorry you like that ball? He seemed like I started

457
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Speaker 6: a chord with the kind of Frankenstein.

458
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Speaker 7: I mean that's what it felt like. And I mean,

459
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Speaker 7: you know, the online pundits are just, well, just put

460
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Speaker 7: him there and then you know when he was playing

461
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Speaker 7: right tacklem not his best position and c C will

462
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Speaker 7: be the right guard, and he was okay, like like

463
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Speaker 7: what are we doing if we're really talking about having

464
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Speaker 7: a rookie quarterback at number three right?

465
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Speaker 8: And I would I would hope they think more of

466
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Speaker 8: Cole Strange, Mafy so Jake Andrews than Nick LeVert. I

467
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Speaker 8: would hope they think more of those guys, the homegrown guys.

468
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Speaker 8: And if they don't, I think that's something to be

469
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Speaker 8: concerned about. Like I said, if he was a tackle,

470
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Speaker 8: he'd make a lot of sense. You got to have

471
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Speaker 8: some guys a compete response.

472
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Speaker 5: I just want to go into twenty twenty four with

473
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Speaker 5: someone that's not easy to defend. You know what I mean?

474
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Speaker 7: Well, I don't want to hear that unless it's a

475
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 7: rookie third round ride receiver. I think that train is slowly.

476
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Speaker 5: Just watch something that other defensive coordinators have to plan.

477
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Speaker 1: You can get that on Day two of this draft.

478
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Speaker 1: It's just that they also have quarterback and tackle. Our

479
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Speaker 1: premium needs also high.

480
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Speaker 6: A tweet the last day.

481
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Speaker 8: You would have thought they would be able to fill

482
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Speaker 8: a need in free agency so they could concentrate on

483
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Speaker 8: the other two in the draft.

484
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Speaker 1: To go into the draft. Needing all three still is disappointing.

485
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Speaker 6: Yeah, disappointing, And.

486
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Speaker 5: Like I said, yeah, trade market is still available, but

487
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Speaker 5: now you're going to have to give up probably one

488
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Speaker 5: of those three assets you have to and.

489
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Speaker 8: It wouldn't have been a permanent fix, you know, Like

490
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Speaker 8: even Tyrone Smith isn't a permanent fix. He's a he's

491
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Speaker 8: a twenty twenty four fix.

492
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Speaker 6: Right yea.

493
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Speaker 8: But like there was some creative things I think they

494
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Speaker 8: could have done. Like the Jets, their offensive line is

495
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 8: every bit as much in shambles as the Patriots. Right,

496
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Speaker 8: they have one guy that they like in Vera Tucker,

497
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Speaker 8: just like the Patriots have a win you But they

498
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Speaker 8: went out and made a move to get Morgan Moses back. Now,

499
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Speaker 8: Morgan Moses is not Tyron Smith in his prime. He's

500
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Speaker 8: not a stud tackle, but he's played tackle in the league.

501
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Speaker 8: It's a guy that played there before. They probably feel

502
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Speaker 8: okay about him. Like even a move like that would

503
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Speaker 8: have made me feel better than you know, a corps

504
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Speaker 8: of four trying to say, well, can he play left tackle?

505
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Speaker 1: Well, probably not, He's never done it. Yeah, him playing

506
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Speaker 1: right tackle to begin the year with a rookie waiting

507
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Speaker 1: in the wings is not the worst thing. I'm okay

508
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Speaker 1: with that. But you would have had to have signed

509
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Speaker 1: a Jonah Williams or someone like that to play the

510
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Speaker 1: other spot. So that's that's the part that I just

511
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: don't really see how it comes together. Is that you

512
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Speaker 1: don't you don't have. You have zero starting tackles right

513
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Speaker 1: now unless you're counting on Yeah.

514
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Speaker 8: If you had somehow like not had yourself in a

515
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Speaker 8: position where it's going to be a quarterback probably at three,

516
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Speaker 8: if you could have you know, Joe alt or.

517
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Speaker 1: A fashion now fush fashing.

518
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Speaker 8: Plug and play like you draft those guys in the

519
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Speaker 8: top ten, plug and play left tackle, and then it's

520
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Speaker 8: survival of the fittest at left guard. Whoever is the

521
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Speaker 8: best out of those guys, David Andrews, Michael when you

522
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Speaker 8: and then you got a quarter four to you know,

523
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Speaker 8: while you're waiting for someone better, that's at least a

524
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Speaker 8: big step toward addressing your offensive line. No one's expecting

525
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Speaker 8: the Patriots. I hear this a lot too, like it's

526
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Speaker 8: a quick it's not a quick fix. It's a big rebuild. Yes,

527
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Speaker 8: we all agree. No one's expecting to go from four

528
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Speaker 8: and thirteen to thirteen and four. I mean, at least,

529
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Speaker 8: I don't. I don't know how you guys feel. I mean,

530
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Speaker 8: there's a lot of work to be done, but at

531
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Speaker 8: least that would show you some progress. What they've done

532
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Speaker 8: right now to me is they've cut a couple of

533
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Speaker 8: guys that didn't fit factor into their immediate plans that

534
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Speaker 8: replaced them with either the existing guys that were already

535
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Speaker 8: here or Watts uh, you know for for a guy

536
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Speaker 8: you know you know inside they even know a different style.

537
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Speaker 1: And that's it right now, like that.

538
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Speaker 5: There needs to be more and the person getting the

539
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Speaker 5: most heat is Matt Judon.

540
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Speaker 6: It is funny how I saw it.

541
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Speaker 7: Like once he was like, I love Matt Judah, but

542
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Speaker 7: he's got to be over one hundred on the show.

543
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Speaker 6: Stop that.

544
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Speaker 7: It's just like and then he did like, well, Mat

545
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Speaker 7: Wilson is like announcing his like goodbye to New England.

546
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Speaker 6: He's like, come back to New England.

547
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Speaker 5: You think I.

548
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Speaker 7: Appreciate the humor, but I wonder if he even knew.

549
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Speaker 1: I like the T Higgins one just got off the.

550
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Speaker 9: Phone with the best part of that was look at

551
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Speaker 9: God at the end of the sign off.

552
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Speaker 6: I was like, we gotta is funny.

553
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Speaker 1: It's just not It's just not funny right now.

554
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Speaker 6: No, it's not funny now.

555
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Speaker 7: And I think, just like what you were saying, though, Paul,

556
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Speaker 7: two of of you know, it's not going to turn around,

557
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Speaker 7: it's like, can we just at least try to put

558
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Speaker 7: something in place to protect this rookie quarterback that's that

559
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Speaker 7: we want to get in there, or what's gonna what

560
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Speaker 7: I don't want to help happen.

561
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Speaker 8: Yeah, two years from now, we're sitting here saying they

562
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 8: have a lot of holes to fill, like I want,

563
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 8: let's just say they have ten holes to fill right now.

564
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Speaker 8: I want next year they're only to be eight holes

565
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Speaker 8: to fill, and then in two years, maybe there's only

566
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Speaker 8: five holes to fill. Like I I'm not looking for

567
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Speaker 8: ten to get filled all at once with a magic

568
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Speaker 8: act of wow, hall of Fame or at first round pick,

569
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Speaker 8: hall of Fame, second round pick. That's unrealistic. But right

570
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Speaker 8: now it's like the draft or bust.

571
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it also feels like, you know, to your point

572
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Speaker 1: about which quarterback is gonna get killed behind this offensive

573
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Speaker 1: line next year, you're either in a position where you're

574
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Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback at three to sit him because you

575
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Speaker 1: don't want to throw him into this, or you're not

576
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Speaker 1: taking the quarterback at all because you're not ready for

577
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Speaker 1: the quarterback. So it's like, now we're in this position too,

578
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: where if they draft Drake May at three overall. He

579
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Speaker 1: already has you know, some people saying he should sit anyways,

580
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Speaker 1: and now you're going to throw him into this mess

581
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Speaker 1: Like now he is sitting for an entire year.

582
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Speaker 7: Lead us to the top overall, pickch Kobe bris that

583
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 7: next year, and there we'll have Drake punk Drake mayon

584
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Speaker 7: there and whoever number one overall is now.

585
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I don't think. I don't think not getting

586
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley, however, affects what we think the Patriots are

587
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 5: going to do in the draft. We still think they're

588
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Speaker 5: going to take the best quarterback available at number three.

589
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Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to bet on it, yes,

590
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Speaker 1: But I think trading down makes it becomes more of

591
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Speaker 1: a sensible thing to do. Hey, what's the quarterback picking

592
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: to do? Unless you really think that that guy is

593
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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback?

594
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 5: Yes, but you're picking him at three you think he's

595
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Speaker 5: a franchise court I didn't think that. If you don't

596
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 5: think that, don't then trade down.

597
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Speaker 1: I think trading down because of what I just said,

598
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Speaker 1: what's he going to have to work with here next year?

599
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's his problem right now. If you have

600
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 5: a chance to get a franchise quarterback you must take,

601
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Speaker 5: you must do.

602
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Speaker 1: It, Okay, But the franchise quarterback still has to have

603
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: a good supporting cast and a good foundation.

604
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Speaker 5: Around him, Okay, And I get it.

605
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Speaker 1: Otherwise he'll get happy feed and get sped up and

606
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: we'll be in the same pen and what comes first.

607
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: But if again, we'll figure that out. But if you

608
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 5: have the chance to get the guy, you've got to

609
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 5: get the guy.

610
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Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I just think that if they if

611
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Speaker 1: they're in this position and they really don't do anything

612
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: between now and the draft to change the.

613
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Speaker 5: Equation, he's gonna have a hard time.

614
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting him on the bench.

615
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 5: Maybe you do that.

616
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just not putting him out there.

617
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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, if you believe whoever's there at three

618
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 5: is a franchise guy, you must take him and watch

619
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Speaker 5: him get killed and or sit him or whatever, but

620
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Speaker 5: you must make him part of your team.

621
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Speaker 7: I agree, it's but it's I mean, it's rough thinking

622
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 7: about Jacoby Brissett. This offensive line, like Kendrick Bourne comes back.

623
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Speaker 7: But I mean, now you don't even really have a

624
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 7: Parker to at least throw out there on the outside.

625
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Speaker 7: For some kind of presence like and I'm not saying

626
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Speaker 7: I'm a Parker fan, but I mean they're worse on

627
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 7: offense right now than they were, you know, and we're

628
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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, we're day.

629
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Speaker 1: I don't know, DeVante Parker might have been a ditioned

630
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: by subtraction.

631
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Speaker 7: And I think there's an argument to be made for that.

632
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 7: And you know, I mean I heard I heard Badard

633
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 7: Bernard talking a little bit about some of that stuff,

634
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 7: you know, where they better today, which I just know

635
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 7: it was kind of a stupid question just because they're

636
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 7: right in the midst of it at that at this moment.

637
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 7: But it's you know, it's hard. It's hard to see

638
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 7: how this offense is going to, you know, really make

639
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 7: any strides right now.

640
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 5: Let's think about it a different way. We know how

641
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 5: the Patriots ended up in twenty twenty three. Can we

642
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 5: remember where they were in twenty twenty three in March

643
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 5: as compared to now and what we were thinking in March.

644
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 6: They've gotten juju?

645
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: They juju kasiki. Yeah, brought back everybody.

646
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 7: On Calvin Anderson.

647
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: Eliminate myself from the conversation. Okay, I remember what I

648
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: was saying, you you would he was correct. I remember

649
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: how I was getting mocked.

650
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 6: Oh right, yeah, well.

651
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Or maybe better now, I don't know, not by you guys. Okay, now,

652
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: you were right about Juju one hundred percent. And I

653
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: think that that's one thing you look at that it

654
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: made me so interested in Calvin Ridley was that he

655
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: did get a lot of those one on one matchups

656
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: against good man coverage because they kept playing him at

657
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: the X receiver spot for some reason. So it wasn't

658
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 1: Juju running into voids of space of off coverage and

659
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Speaker 1: just catching the ball because everybody else, you know, created

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Speaker 1: all this space for him. He Calvin Ridley, when you

661
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Speaker 1: watch his tape from Jacksonville last year, was winning on

662
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Speaker 1: routes like by himself, you know. So that's why I

663
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Speaker 1: thought that it was worth it. But where they were

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Speaker 1: last year, I think the one guy that I would

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Speaker 1: just say in free agency that's still out there, I

666
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Speaker 1: would go after Mike Williams. I would pay Mike Williams.

667
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not paying him twenty million dollars a

668
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Speaker 1: year like Chargers just did, but in terms of who's

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Speaker 1: still available on the market, he's the one guy that

670
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Speaker 1: that would give me any sort of in.

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Speaker 8: Him too, absolutely, And I just what the frustrating thing.

672
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Speaker 8: I guess with the money, you know, he I think

673
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Speaker 8: he's now like according to those sites like over the

674
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Speaker 8: Cap and those, I think Ridley becomes like the tenth

675
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Speaker 8: highest paid receiver in the game. Now, he's not a

676
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Speaker 8: top probably not a top ten receiver for the moment,

677
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Speaker 8: but he's probably ten to twenty. He's probably somewhere in

678
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Speaker 8: the twenty, number one, number two. This time next year,

679
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Speaker 8: he's going to be in the twenties for because all

680
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Speaker 8: of those guys are going to get as Evan likes

681
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Speaker 8: to say, the bag right, like Justin Jefferson, just CD Lamb,

682
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Speaker 8: you know, like she's going to be Jamar Chase. These

683
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Speaker 8: guys are all going to be up Higgins are. They're

684
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Speaker 8: all going to get They're all going to get paid, right.

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Speaker 7: Nobody's gonna want to get paid first though, you know,

686
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Speaker 7: like everybody's gonna want to wait somebody else.

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Speaker 1: Jefferson, Chase In Lamb, Yeah, probably all My guess is

688
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Speaker 1: that Jefferson will have to go first because he's going

689
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Speaker 1: to make the most. I think Jefferson could push forty

690
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Speaker 1: million a year.

691
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Speaker 7: Like he's in the Texas, like in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but the most in Minneapolis or St.

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Speaker 5: Paul.

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Speaker 1: I guess, like the the CAAP adjusted number of tire

695
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Speaker 1: he kills contract is thirty six point six million, So

696
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Speaker 1: that's just the starting point for Minnesota on justin Jefferson.

697
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Speaker 1: So if he is in a situation where he's got

698
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Speaker 1: like multiple options or something like that.

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Speaker 8: And who's his quarterback, Sam Darnold, that's not our problem.

700
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Speaker 8: I'm just saying that's probably why he's not going to

701
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Speaker 8: be there much longer.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 7: Do you think that's like they're going to make him

704
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Speaker 7: have a down year so they can low ball them.

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Speaker 1: That'll work. I mean, he kind of had a down

706
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Speaker 1: year last year because he was a Hurst hurt, but

707
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Speaker 1: when you look at the per game averages, he would

708
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Speaker 1: have had another two thousand yard season if he had

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Speaker 1: played the whole year.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm about to probably go down the rabbit

711
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Speaker 5: hole here with Paul.

712
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Speaker 6: Let's strap in.

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Speaker 5: You know, we know that every year the cap is

714
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Speaker 5: going up a lot, to the point where you know

715
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Speaker 5: it's getting easier to manipulate it because the cap is

716
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Speaker 5: going up. But do you think even with those increases,

717
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Speaker 5: with the increases of these positions. Do you think the

718
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Speaker 5: importance of the cap might three years from now four

719
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Speaker 5: years and they'll start to come into play again, you know,

720
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Speaker 5: because they I don't the chunks that you're paying two

721
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Speaker 5: or three guys on your on your roster, is that

722
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Speaker 5: is such that it's taking up a higher percent.

723
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Speaker 1: But look at it.

724
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Speaker 7: Look at the Patriots right now, they've got fifty million

725
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Speaker 7: in space. They have no one to spend, you know.

726
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Speaker 7: But there'll be a lot of teams that don't have

727
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Speaker 7: those guys, you know, So I don't know. I mean,

728
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Speaker 7: there certainly might be a problem for a couple of teams,

729
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Speaker 7: but let's don't have the guys.

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Speaker 8: I think people only look at the fancy, flashy numbers,

731
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Speaker 8: and I think wide receiver right now is going in

732
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Speaker 8: an astronomical direction. People don't talk about running back.

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Speaker 5: That's true. That's gone to.

734
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Speaker 8: Tight end safety safety like a lot of the other

735
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Speaker 8: numbers are.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're kind of going the other way.

737
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Speaker 8: Even corner, yeah, even corner. Uh, there's there's not as

738
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Speaker 8: many of those now. I think that some of it

739
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 8: is cyclical, But I think it's hard to make an argument.

740
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Speaker 8: And I know you weren't making You're just bringing up

741
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 8: a point Freddy that the higher the cap goes, eventually

742
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Speaker 8: it's going to come more into play. Like if the

743
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Speaker 8: cap keeps what was it like fourteen percent.

744
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: This year thirty million increase, but I.

745
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Speaker 8: Think it was like a fourteen percent increase of something

746
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 8: crazy like that, if it continues to grow, and there's

747
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Speaker 8: no reason to think it won't, Like this revenue is

748
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Speaker 8: not going to go anywhere.

749
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Speaker 1: Well, it's not going to make this big of a jump.

750
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Speaker 1: It made this big of a jump because of the

751
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: new TV deals, right, so now every year is.

752
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Speaker 8: And what they're going to do, in my opinion is

753
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 8: they're going to continue to search for ways to add Amazons.

754
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, and that's going to be.

755
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Speaker 1: More and more. Just wait till the playoffs.

756
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Speaker 8: The other the other part that helped this year be

757
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 8: so big was that influx from the COVID year that

758
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 8: they all paid back or whatever, and that allowed it

759
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 8: to jump up. Listen, it's all business stuff that no

760
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 8: one cares about, least of all me. But I just

761
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 8: feel like the cap is at a point now where

762
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Speaker 8: it's just kind of there and it's all about the

763
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Speaker 8: kind of money you want to spend.

764
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Speaker 5: But knowing these owners at some point they're gonna be like,

765
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Speaker 5: we gotta, we gotta get this under control.

766
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Speaker 6: They're making more money though, yeah, you know it.

767
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Speaker 1: Just I don't even understand why we have a cap anymore,

768
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Speaker 1: Like if you here the NFL, like the luxury tax

769
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Speaker 1: system is like why why are we still acting like

770
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Speaker 1: the cap is real? Like it's a it's a fake number.

771
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Speaker 8: Both both in football and basketball. Like I don't really

772
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Speaker 8: understand why the existence. Well, Coney, I get it for

773
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Speaker 8: two reasons. Number one, the NHL is not nearly as

774
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Speaker 8: profitable as the other three sports, so they don't have

775
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Speaker 8: that that kind of revenue.

776
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Speaker 1: But it's actually a cap.

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Speaker 8: If you want to tell me the importance of controlled

778
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 8: spending the owners feel so strongly about it, then put

779
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Speaker 8: a real cap in and make it a four year,

780
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Speaker 8: twenty million dollar deal. Is five million a year, doesn't

781
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Speaker 8: matter how you want to do it. You can pay

782
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Speaker 8: them twenty million in the first year, but it's gonna

783
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Speaker 8: cost you five million a year for four years on

784
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Speaker 8: the cap. Whether we play, whether he doesn't play right,

785
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 8: that's the NHL. It's a real hardline cap. That's how

786
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Speaker 8: it's done. The only loophole in the NHL is long.

787
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Speaker 1: Term, I ar and and that guy can't play, and

788
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: like multi team trades with brokers and stuff, but that

789
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: we don't need to bug down the show. But in general,

790
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: you sign a guy to a deal and the life

791
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: of the deal, you can pro rate it. You can

792
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. The cap is treated evenly. The

793
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: NBA is start like, the NBA has aprons now, so

794
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, so it's it's it's thresholds for the luxury tax,

795
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: and the Celtics are one of the teams that are

796
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Speaker 1: in the upper apron. So with GROSSBEC has to cut

797
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: a check every single year to pay for Jason Tatum

798
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: and Jalen Brown and so on and so forth. So

799
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: that like it's not quite the same way as baseball,

800
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: which is is truly uncapped basically with the luxury tax threshold.

801
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: But the cap number in the NFL is fake. The

802
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: real cash money is the one that's real. So you

803
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: have teams that are under the cap at two fifty

804
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: five but are paying three fifty for their roster, so

805
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: like you know that, and they don't get in other

806
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: leagues you get penalized for that in money.

807
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, in our league, you take one hundred million

808
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 5: and you spread it out in other years.

809
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: You just in our league, you just burn the cash, like,

810
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, okay, so we have we're in cap jail,

811
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna convert this guys to a salary bonus.

812
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: And Josh Allen just created the bills sound like you

813
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: don't really have sixty million dollars in cap good all

814
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden out of you know, overnight, Now the

815
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Speaker 1: bills are cap not only cap compliant, but they have

816
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Speaker 1: cap space.

817
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Speaker 6: It's just like what do we do with mame?

818
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing, not not quite as much money, but

819
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: same thing.

820
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 8: Moved and found some space, right and like you know, oh,

821
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 8: they sign him this huge deal. And that's the other

822
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 8: part of this is and I think it's really smart

823
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 8: the way these teams do it is like the big,

824
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 8: the really big contracts makes it easier to do stuff

825
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 8: like that, like oh, yeah, we used to do it

826
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 8: with Tom till year that they would restructure and give

827
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 8: him like thirty million.

828
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we used his We use this contract like a

829
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 5: mortgage with that yes, you know, yes, make your money.

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Speaker 1: I think it was one year and.

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Speaker 8: You got like fifty two million, and they they added

832
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 8: a year or two and they spread it out, but

833
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 8: he he gets the money. So it's great for the

834
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 8: player and it works for the cap. Yeah, all right,

835
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 8: that's your cap Talk eight five five Pats five hundred

836
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 8: is the Aceticket hotline. Web radio at Patriots dot com

837
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 8: is the email address. Got a lot of emails coming in.

838
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Speaker 5: Anything else you want to talk about, whether it's the

839
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 5: league or Patriots or anything anything on the table. No,

840
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 5: oh yeah, oh because of Yeah, I mean, I don't

841
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 5: think anyone was surprised, right, No, you know, we had

842
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 5: some people say, oh, you need to have an emergency podcast.

843
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: No, I mean some people.

844
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 5: No, I mean, in all fairness, it wasn't just internal

845
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: was I get some tweets about it, But I don't

846
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 5: think it rose to the level of it because we

847
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 5: knew it was going to happen.

848
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Speaker 7: Can we just like for now, like emergency, a big

849
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 7: name comes to the Patriots, like to talk about if

850
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 7: it's a big name that leaves the Patriots, we're probably not.

851
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 5: Going to cut emergency podcast.

852
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 8: It was it might have been the original, but the

853
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 8: if if the Patriots lost a.

854
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: Big name, I'd be in favor of.

855
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 5: Yeah. Now they don't have any big names.

856
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 8: It's kind of hard to like, if in all seriousness,

857
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 8: like and I'm not.

858
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 7: Kidding, like Patriots gets traded, that might that to me,

859
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 7: might of what we got back?

860
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: How about far more they left? How about if bar

861
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: Moore got traded?

862
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 5: Oh, that would be on alleged podcast can be doing

863
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 5: it from.

864
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 8: But I'm just trying to like tell you, like example,

865
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Speaker 8: it's not out of the Roman possibility that the guy

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Speaker 8: going into the last year of his contract gets traded.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's face these things happen sometimes.

868
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 7: That's where they and not realistically that you're.

869
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 8: Going to have this fifty million in cap space. He'd

870
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 8: be a guy that I'd be.

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00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 5: It's something that comes out of the knock on door

872
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 5: that we weren't expecting a big deal.

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Speaker 7: Do you think do you think they use some of

874
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 7: that money for Dougger to try to get out of

875
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 7: that tag and try to give him some kind of

876
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 7: extension or some kind of deal.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he's going to buy out.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a matter of using some of

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Speaker 5: that money.

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Speaker 1: If they if they can roll it over.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But if they felt like Douger was worth fifteen million,

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Speaker 5: I think they give him fifteen million. But I don't

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Speaker 5: think they do.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, there's a report out there that they

885
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Speaker 1: thought he they offered him around thirteen AAV. The tag

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Speaker 1: is thirteen point eight, so it made sense to use

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Speaker 1: the tag because that's how they valued him. Anyways, And

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Speaker 1: you haven't heard anything about him having a market as

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Speaker 1: of right now, so I think that tag it for

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Speaker 1: now might have somehow scared some teams off that might

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Speaker 1: have been interested.

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Speaker 5: And but going back, you know to what you were

893
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 5: saying reaction on Mac, I think it's the best for

894
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 5: both parties. You only got a six round pick. I

895
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 5: don't think you could have really expected much more, you

896
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Speaker 5: know than that. And and I hope he does well.

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Speaker 5: He's going to back up, you know, Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's a good situation where he's from.

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Speaker 5: It's good good he'll.

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Speaker 6: Back up Lawrence.

901
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Speaker 7: He might get a chance if Lawrence, you know, gets hurt.

902
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Speaker 7: He thought through a lot of injuries last year, and

903
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Speaker 7: he'll hit the market next year and I'm sure some

904
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Speaker 7: team will take a chance on him.

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Speaker 5: So good luck, I know, the whole Bailey Zappi was

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Speaker 5: kind of a topic on Patriots Twitter today, like what

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Speaker 5: do you do with Bailey zappy.

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Speaker 8: You get off that seriousness like that stuff?

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Speaker 5: How do you get off Patriots?

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Speaker 1: Twitter? Yeah, following. I don't follow people an algorithm?

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Speaker 9: Is it coming into like your side algorithm top for

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Speaker 9: you hit following?

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Speaker 1: But you're your algorithm. You're still taught. You never you

914
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: can't get rid of it.

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Speaker 8: I know what I'm talking about. The young The young

916
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Speaker 8: people know quick algorithm aside.

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Speaker 7: For some reason, I don't really go on Facebook much,

918
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Speaker 7: but for some reason I get fed plain turbulence videos

919
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Speaker 7: like and I cannot stop getting plaining turbulence videos, and

920
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Speaker 7: like I don't want to watch them, but like every

921
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Speaker 7: time I look at like the short thing, it's like,

922
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Speaker 7: oh look at this turbulence, Oh my god, huge drop.

923
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Speaker 7: Get I don't know it's driving me.

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Speaker 6: Away from Facebook, but playing turbulence. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: And now you're speaking about it.

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Speaker 7: I know my phone is like more plain turbulence, better

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Speaker 7: better than my algorithm on Facebook. I don't want to open.

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Speaker 1: Facebook.

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Speaker 5: It's all guys from the Jersey named Mike.

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Speaker 6: How you doing.

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Speaker 8: I don't get a ton of I played the fifth

932
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Speaker 8: Facebook stuff. I don't get a ton of crap. But Twitter,

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Speaker 8: I'm not even.

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Speaker 5: On Facebook, I'm old.

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Speaker 7: I just kind of look at it from time to

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Speaker 7: time to see what the people I didn't even talk

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Speaker 7: to when high school are doing. Like it was a

938
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Speaker 7: nice novelty like right out, you know, like when it

939
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 7: came out, and like, oh, look at what all these

940
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Speaker 7: people from high school doing. Announce Remember why you talked?

941
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 7: I don't care what they're doing anymore.

942
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Speaker 1: Like the sad part is is that that's Facebook's demographic now,

943
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: Like it used to be the young gins when it

944
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: first started, but now the demographic is people that want

945
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Speaker 1: to reconnect with high school or stay connected to high

946
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Speaker 1: school friends in college friends. It's always old for me.

947
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Speaker 4: But yeah, Evan doesn't want us to know he's stuck

948
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Speaker 4: in Connor McDermott.

949
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I like Connor McDermott. All right, But one

950
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: more thing about the Patriots Twitter thing. I don't know

951
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: if this is just me, but the the Bailey Zappi

952
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: workout videos that I've been seeing with with with the

953
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Speaker 1: like the cast of the cast of Misfit Toys besides

954
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Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne, Like, I I guess popped out this. Okay, sorry,

955
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but I'm sorry, and I think

956
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: maybe it's just because he stinks and like, I can't

957
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: get that out of my head. But the Bailey Zappi,

958
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm not anywhere near mean, by the way, the Bailey

959
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: Zappi stuff irks me a lots me a lot like

960
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: it because it started with him. It started with.

961
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Speaker 9: Him everybody workout in the off season.

962
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's documenting it. Like at first it started

963
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: with with liking the mac Jones trade tweet. Wait, which

964
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: that's that. That was where it started. The turn started

965
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: for me, And at that point I was like, no,

966
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: I'm already done. Then we're posting workout uh you know,

967
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: videos and throwing passes there five yard passes and dart

968
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: dart to Taekwon Thornton, Like I want both of them

969
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: off my football team, So I don't really care. I'll

970
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Speaker 1: tell you I'm not anywhere nearest. It's also like the

971
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Speaker 1: just the look, the vibe like that you get is

972
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: like he thinks he's starting here. This stuff I don't

973
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: have a problem.

974
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Speaker 8: With with Zappy per se, Like, and this might be

975
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 8: the first time in the history of the show that

976
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 8: I'm not as worked up as someone else's about some random,

977
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 8: insignificant thing Like I have a very crazy thing. And

978
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 8: I used to say the same thing when we used

979
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 8: to get inundated with Brady videos in Montana. Rember Brady

980
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 8: Brady the best who ever did? I have a crazy

981
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 8: assumption that I make with professional athletes in general, but

982
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 8: NFL players specifically. I think they do a pretty good

983
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 8: job of working out.

984
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: But the Montana videos are great because he was good.

985
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 8: Operated that these guys don't roll out of bed and

986
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 8: show up the first day of training camp and become

987
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 8: the greatest player who's ever played. But I don't need

988
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 8: to see you throwing passes in your backyard to Danny

989
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 8: and Mendola, and I certainly to Evan's point, do not

990
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 8: need to see Bailey Zappi throwing darts.

991
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: But what the kids.

992
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 8: Do, it doesn't have to be shown on my because

993
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 8: because I don't get off, I do not follow any

994
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 8: of those people.

995
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 5: But you're missing the business end of it. Their feeds

996
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 5: are their business, that's their brand. So whatever they can

997
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 5: do to get more followers, they're going to do it.

998
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: Do you know what they should do, Bailey Zappy, put

999
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: your head down, go to the gym without the cameras,

1000
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: in silence, and actually show up a camp like you

1001
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: are a starting quarterback in the NFL. So I again,

1002
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: not anywhere near as mean as him. Thank you Newt Rock.

1003
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Speaker 8: So I want to ask Alex so who is putting

1004
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 8: the video out.

1005
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: I've only sounds like Kendrick.

1006
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 9: I've only seen Kendrick Bourne putting videos. They're all out

1007
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 9: there with Kendrick in Portland. I think they were at

1008
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 9: the Nike headquarters yesterday, so the four of them.

1009
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 7: Taekwon.

1010
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 8: Theoretically, I'm getting it because I follow Kendrick Kendricks.

1011
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, Kendrick has a vlog.

1012
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 7: He always has like.

1013
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 9: Please video guys around him, and Kendrick has a lot

1014
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 9: of brand.

1015
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: But it's like stuff. You know, this is a business

1016
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: for them.

1017
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 9: They make money off their.

1018
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: So I don't have any problem with them doing that

1019
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: for it.

1020
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 9: No, they probably make money from the gym.

1021
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 8: The problem everyone's talking about the reaction to the videos

1022
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 8: is insanity.

1023
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, Taekwon Thorne looked bulked up.

1024
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: Though, man serious, exactly the same. He's bulked up, went

1025
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: a twig. So he has a little the end of

1026
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: last year in the locker, Evan, you could go, I

1027
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: could show you tweets from this time last year, people

1028
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: saying the same thing in the locker room at the

1029
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: end of the year. Last year, he looked the same

1030
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: exact way, the same way he's he's It's just that's

1031
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: his frame. It's his frame. Just get Pop Douglas away

1032
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: from those people, please.

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Speaker 4: As I think back over the past few seasons, I

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Speaker 11: And we are back with another edition of the PU

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Speaker 11: Halftime Show. I'm joined by Chris Cassidy. It's me and

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Speaker 11: a chiefs ballman, and we haven't done one of these

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Speaker 11: for a while, right, it feels like we're Chris. Now,

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Speaker 11: we're in Indy, you know, scouting out some of the

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Speaker 11: prospects for the year as free agency season, draft season.

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Speaker 11: But as always, we're gonna start off with some trivia.

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Speaker 11: I think we have some shirts left. Don't worry, you're

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Speaker 11: gonna win something if you get these rights. Send you

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Speaker 11: answers in the web Radio Patriots dot Com. Chris, don't answer.

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Speaker 11: I got some good ones, all right. So Question one?

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Speaker 11: What four movies motion pictures did Tom Brady appear in?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 11: What four movies did Tom Brady appear in? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 11: you thinking about it. Question two? What Division one college

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Speaker 11: did Deon Branch attend?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 11: And so to give you some background on this, he

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Speaker 11: went to junior college. But what Division one school did

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Speaker 11: he attend?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what that one?

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Speaker 11: All right, Chris, a little before your time, you're barely alive.

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Speaker 11: Question three, how many touchdowns did Chad Ocho Cinco have

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Speaker 11: with the Patriots, all right, So I was always send

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Speaker 11: your answers into web radio at Patriots dot com and Chris,

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Speaker 11: it is March fourteenth. A free agency officially opened yesterday,

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Speaker 11: but you know it's legal tampering period the week before,

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Speaker 11: stuff like that. But anyways, you know, we have some

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Speaker 11: Pats free agents re signings that we've talked about. But

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Speaker 11: I also want to talk about free agents around the

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Speaker 11: league and what are some new matchups that you're excited about.

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Speaker 11: There are some new additions you're sided about, like what

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Speaker 11: do you think is gonna work? What do you think

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Speaker 11: is not gonna work? Let me go first. The first

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Speaker 11: one I'm excited about is Kirk Cousins. That no, it's

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Speaker 11: you reacted here. Tell me why do you think this

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Speaker 11: is gonna work or not work?

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Speaker 12: So?

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Speaker 1: I love Kirk.

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Speaker 13: I he was really one of the guys that if

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Speaker 13: we wanted a veteran presence in this locker room here

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Speaker 13: in New England. I think he's a guy that you

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Speaker 13: would go with over Russell Wilson, you wanted him here

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Speaker 13: over Baker Mayfield. Yeah, I realistically if there was one

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Speaker 13: of those three guys, I would have wanted to Kirk

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Speaker 13: Kirk the most. I think Kirk fits the best in Atlanta.

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Speaker 13: I think he has weapons around him, A new coach.

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Speaker 1: New coach.

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Speaker 11: We heard raheem a little in Indie like it's not

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Speaker 11: Arthur Smith like Kyle fits. He's gonna he's gonna get

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Speaker 11: the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: And there was a funny little back and forth between

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Speaker 13: Kirk and Cale Pits about his number.

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Speaker 11: Yeah on social Yeah, just he said I was joking,

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Speaker 11: he's joking about He wasn't joking.

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Speaker 6: He wants some targets. Yeah.

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Speaker 13: But I loved Kirk going Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great fit for him. He got

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Speaker 1: his bag too, So.

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Speaker 11: I mean, which like he's coming off in Achilles. I

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Speaker 11: mean they we're talking about Rogers maybe running for vice

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Speaker 11: president because he tore his achilles. So all right, that's

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Speaker 11: all the topics. That's all yeah, to get in. But

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Speaker 11: on paper in Madden, that offense is scary. If Kirk

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Speaker 11: Cousins is back to what he's used to be, got

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Speaker 11: Bejon Robinson, Drake Lendon, Kyle Pitts and Kirk.

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Speaker 13: You're a big Madden guy. What do you think that

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Speaker 13: Atlanta Falcons set overall is gonna.

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Speaker 11: Be it's gonna start off at ninety three for the offense,

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Speaker 11: but then it's gonna drop because I don't think it's

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Speaker 11: got all right, Chris, what else we got?

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Speaker 13: Uh So I would say, I mean, for me, one

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Speaker 13: of my favorite signings and the guy he spent eight

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Speaker 13: seasons in Tennessee as a running back. He signed with

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Speaker 13: the Ravens.

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Speaker 11: The world's worst kept secret.

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Speaker 13: He he's just still he's still got that popping him.

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Speaker 13: He still has that King Henry speed. Derrick Henry signing

1150
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Speaker 13: with the Ravens, that was a huge deal for them.

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Speaker 13: Gus Edwards signed with the Chargers. So now Derrick Henry

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Speaker 13: is a primary back in Baltimore.

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Speaker 11: Can we talk about how good that all black with

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Speaker 11: the black visor is gonna look.

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Speaker 13: So the purple is gonna look amazing on him too,

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Speaker 13: And I mean think about that backfield though. Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 13: one of the most dynamic quarterbacks in the NFL right

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Speaker 13: now and just won the MVP. Derrick Henry, Yes, he's

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Speaker 13: going on to his ninth season in the NFL, but

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Speaker 13: he still has that strength, he still has that quickness.

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Speaker 13: It might not be where it was four years ago,

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Speaker 13: but he still does have it.

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Speaker 11: They also got the back I forget his name. Evan

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Speaker 11: told me yesterday that Mitchell whatever they got the little

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Speaker 11: speedy guy to his little spell. Yeah, but he's legit too,

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Speaker 11: So all right, we got that and then all over

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Speaker 11: two more. Let's we get some more time. But Texans.

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Speaker 11: Texans are making some moves, Chris. They just picked up

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Speaker 11: Daniel Hunter with that D line is scary, all right,

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Speaker 11: Like they're legit, and let's talk about like they were

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Speaker 11: in it for Saquon and we went to the Eagles,

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Speaker 11: but like c J. Stroud rookie quarterback, one offensive rookie

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Speaker 11: of the year, and talk about helping you guy, like

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Speaker 11: I'm a good defense. They have Tank Dell coming back

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Speaker 11: off injury, and I'm sure they'll make some more moves

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Speaker 11: in the draft. And then the painful part of being

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Speaker 11: a Pats fan, Calvin Ridley, Oh, Calvin Ridley going to

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Speaker 11: the Titans less than four years, ninety two million, fifty

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Speaker 11: million guaranteed. People forget he's twenty nine. Yeah, and they

1180
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Speaker 11: didn't pay a twenty seven year old AJ Brown that money.

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Speaker 11: So I mean, hey, I'm never gonna be upset about

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Speaker 11: players get in the bag. But you would have liked

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Speaker 11: to see him in New England, but I'm not too

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Speaker 11: upset about it.

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Speaker 6: Ridley.

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Speaker 13: Ridley got his payment for sure. Don't know if you

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Speaker 13: would have gotten that anywhere else, no other than Jacksonville. Yeah,

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00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 13: that was clear he didn't want to stay. It was

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Speaker 13: kind of interesting with the report saying that he was

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Speaker 13: focused on the Patriots and the Jaguars, but then just

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Speaker 13: crossing everybody.

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Speaker 1: You gotta one Tennessee.

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Speaker 11: You gotta wonder about that also, like, you know, if

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00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 11: he signed before the deadline, jackson was gonna have to

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Speaker 11: give up a second and then they gave up a third,

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Speaker 11: And you're wondering if you, like I'm wondering if they're

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Speaker 11: talking to him, like, hey, I'm not gonna le Jacksonville,

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Speaker 11: but you guys took a chance on me after my

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Speaker 11: whole suspension. Let me do you a solid And wait,

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Speaker 11: you only give up a third. I don't know.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, there was probably conversation there, but at the same time,

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Speaker 13: like didn't really see much about Tennessee being in the

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Speaker 13: mix there. And I mean, this is what the second receiver,

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Speaker 13: and Tennessee's posted a guy from the Patriots.

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Speaker 11: Like Will Levis, He wasn't that bad. They got Hopkins

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Speaker 11: trailing Burks and Ridley, so I mean, go out there

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Speaker 11: and win it.

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Speaker 13: There's a little bit of rumors though that Hopkins with

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00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 13: the Calvin Ridley signing, there's a chance that he might

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Speaker 13: not be there twenty four.

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Speaker 6: We'll see, all.

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Speaker 11: Right, we'll do you know, we'll commanders. They made some moves,

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00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 11: but you know, they made a twenty eighteen move. If

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Speaker 11: it was twenty eighteen, they'd be an all star team.

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Speaker 11: Bobby Wagner, Austin Eckler, though, zach Ertz, and then real quick, Chris.

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Speaker 11: The Pats re signed a bunch of guys. We're hoping

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Speaker 11: to make some more moves, but it looks like we're

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Speaker 11: gonna do most of our dirty work in the draft.

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Speaker 13: So yeah, hearing the reports about the Patriots kind of

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Speaker 13: stepping away from the wide receiver free agency market, it's interesting.

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Speaker 13: There's still a couple of good guys out there that

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00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 13: you could go and get, like at Mike Williams and

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Speaker 13: some others. But you know, it's an interesting direction. There's

1224
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Speaker 13: a lot of good wide receivers in this upcoming draft.

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Speaker 13: Like we talked about it with the tackles and now

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00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 13: the wide receiver is probably two most two deepest positions

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00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 13: in the NFL draft, So you could really go with

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Speaker 13: any of those guys on that board and you'll get

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Speaker 13: some sort of production pretty early on.

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Speaker 1: So the ability to develop them is important.

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Speaker 13: But I do still think there's a chance you could

1232
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 13: try to go over somebody a free agency, but I mean.

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00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 11: It's not our money, no, all right, Chris, thanks for joining.

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Speaker 11: As always, guys, send your trivia answers in the web

1235
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 11: rate of Patriots dot com. Also, if you have any

1236
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 11: topics you wants to discuss this offseason, send them in

1237
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 11: the web radio Patriots dot com as well. All right, thanks,

1238
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 11: and let's get back to Patriots Unfiltered.

1239
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 2: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,

1240
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 2: replacements were shipped with FedEx and picture proof of delivery.

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00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: Everyone can focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

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00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: now it's next for residential delivery only.

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Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 6: History.

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Speaker 1: People are like, oh, even though you're vaccinated, you still

1246
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: have to wear a mask. Well, no, they want you

1247
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: to because not everybody else has gotten it.

1248
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 7: No, not everybody else has gotten it.

1249
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: They're not sure yet.

1250
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 5: Okay, Well that's why they're trying to be saved, right,

1251
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Speaker 5: But if we don't want to go back.

1252
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Speaker 1: I know I want the masks, you never know.

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Speaker 5: Strains, variants. I'm reading right now the Middle Ages, and

1254
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 5: like we think we've got it bad, what kind of

1255
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 5: should be good? The bubonic play? We got nothing over that.

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Speaker 5: I mean literally half of Europe died when you got it,

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Speaker 5: you died. I mean that was it. And you know

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Speaker 5: it lasted for a couple of years, and then it

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Speaker 5: went away, but then it came back over the course

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Speaker 5: of fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: Expect he was also like.

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Speaker 5: Seventeen, but it kept coming back, you know, yeah, over

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Speaker 5: fifteen years. And nobody wore their armor. That's why they

1264
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Speaker 5: wouldn't wear their armor.

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Speaker 1: That's another great moment. We're back.

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Speaker 9: Fred has pawned off the after break reads on me.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it, giving you an opportunity, easy to.

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Speaker 9: Drink, easy to enjoy. Bud Light, the official beer sponsor

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Speaker 9: the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 5: All right, good. I think this is a new thing.

1278
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 5: I think we should rotate and I think fans our

1279
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 5: listeners should vote who they think does it the best.

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Speaker 5: Everything's a competition.

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00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: I'm not good at it, so you can let somebody

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Speaker 1: else that's.

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Speaker 9: Her competition, and you have to you have to read.

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Speaker 9: That was my first time reading those paragraphs, right, so

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00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 9: you can't. I can't read first right.

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Speaker 7: My reading of that is my reading of the free

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Speaker 7: agents at the beginning.

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Speaker 6: Does that qualify?

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Speaker 5: That's part of the show.

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Speaker 1: You did a good job, though you did.

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Speaker 8: You did a good job of getting everybody. I would

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Speaker 8: have probably broken it up into different categories like sign off,

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Speaker 8: sign okay, he signed players, and then you know, I

1294
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Speaker 8: think the loss.

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Speaker 1: So I have my off season tracker. That is a

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Speaker 1: spreadsheet Google spreadsheet, so is mine, and I here it

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Speaker 1: is if you want to zoom in on that. I

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Speaker 1: have resigned h there you go. I just I have

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Speaker 1: to copy and paste to things, so this makes it easier.

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Speaker 1: Re signed. But one of the new, the new fangled

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Speaker 1: texture tweeters.

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Speaker 9: That a spreadsheet on a cell phone screen is.

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Speaker 1: They feel the need to tweet out all the moves.

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00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: This is easy, I do this all.

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Speaker 5: Should at least get an iPad or something.

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Speaker 7: Oh else, you rock the iPad. She's like writing and

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00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 7: drawing level. Yeah, she draws like little little doodles on

1308
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 7: her thing, and there's like, you know, it's all listed

1309
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 7: what she has to do.

1310
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 6: But then there's like a flower on the side.

1311
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: Every time they make a move.

1312
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 8: Evan updated. Evan updates the tweet with all the moves.

1313
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: Yes, that's correct. That that seems to be a go

1314
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: to tweet oh style.

1315
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 7: Right, And then you think of a little everybody.

1316
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 8: That I don't follow that somehow gets in myde I

1317
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 8: think Patriot's offseason thus far. Yeah, boom boom boom, boom

1318
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 8: boom boom, And it just adds the one that they

1319
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 8: just did.

1320
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: Like no, I do it at the end of the day,

1321
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, last night, everybody else does too at

1322
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: ten pm, because that's seems to be the hour that

1323
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: they decided to make these moves. There's no wake up call.

1324
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: Last night, there was no call, so I do it

1325
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: last night. I think I did it around nine thirty

1326
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: ten PM. I was like, all right here it is

1327
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: after day three. But uh, now that with the extra

1328
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: character limit, I used to have to squeeze it all

1329
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: in and now I could just blest it all out.

1330
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: Watch an ever it circle Everett Circle.

1331
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 7: I got to admit the time change last weekend, coupled

1332
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 7: with I'm a little bit like I'm still less a

1333
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 7: couple of days.

1334
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: Time change took you by Yeah.

1335
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 5: I mean I like, you know how you're watching phone

1336
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 5: do it automatically now? Like I got off feeling and

1337
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 5: I didn't really think about it. I got in my

1338
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 5: car and that one you have to do manually, and

1339
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 5: I'm like.

1340
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: What time is it?

1341
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 9: I haven't switched my car clock for like probably four

1342
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 9: periods of daylight now.

1343
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 6: Because you don't know how, you just don't care.

1344
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 9: I just don't got to do a car play to

1345
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 9: my phone in the real time comes up, but time

1346
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 9: manual Toyota screen.

1347
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 8: I have like an old school digital big surprise, an

1348
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 8: old school digital clock.

1349
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: You do anything but old school that you still set

1350
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: your alarm every morning. It's a newer one, but like,

1351
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: do you slide it? How do you set the alarm?

1352
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: It's because I'm I don't have to set on.

1353
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 5: Top of he gets up when the cock crows, right.

1354
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 8: I'm sorry crow anyway I do. I will say one thing.

1355
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 8: I do not like to have my phone in the bedroom.

1356
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 8: I don't my phone.

1357
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: It's very good for you charges.

1358
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 9: I don't because if you do one healthy thing, it's

1359
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 9: that way.

1360
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 5: You don't like to have your phone in the bedroom.

1361
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: It's not good for you, not because of the bedroom.

1362
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: Like when I go to sleep.

1363
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 8: My phone is in another room, trying to keep the match.

1364
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 8: I don't stay up at night's scrolling through the phone.

1365
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 8: It's not good for charge throne next to my bad Yeah,

1366
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 8: I charge my phone in the other room, Like I just.

1367
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 5: Do you have a landline at your house?

1368
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: I do, but it's not you.

1369
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 5: So somebody calls you at night like it's an emergency.

1370
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: Then I would get up and get the phone. It's

1371
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: on loud, get it all the way up, put.

1372
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 5: It next to your bed.

1373
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 9: Do your kids still live in the home? Yeah, so

1374
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 9: who's really calling you late night?

1375
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 7: For the North andover police department, the m.

1376
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: I A A. You know, these are all very possible.

1377
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: Probably like to come down pull out here, officials. I

1378
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: just I don't you know.

1379
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 8: Once I get to like nine thirty ten o'clock, I'm

1380
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 8: usually off my phone for the night, and I don't

1381
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 8: like to have no it's it's.

1382
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 9: It's really good looking about that light before bed. It

1383
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 9: messes with your sarcadian rhythm.

1384
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: I knew you were going to say something. It's not

1385
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: great to let me get into the Wi fi.

1386
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 8: It's not necessarily because of my well obviously not because

1387
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 8: of my well being.

1388
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 1: And I don't take your health.

1389
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 8: And I watched I watched TV, so it's not like,

1390
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 8: oh I need to wind it down. I just my

1391
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 8: phone's not in the so my clock A lot of

1392
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 8: people have their phone as their clock, right, So I

1393
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 8: do have an old school clock, you know, digital clock

1394
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 8: that's right next to my bed, just for time.

1395
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: But this is the this is the bizarre part.

1396
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 8: So somehow I insist that it's in the phones only

1397
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 8: the clock's only like two years old, so somehow it's

1398
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 8: not right. It's not synced up with all the other

1399
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 8: clocks in the house. So Beth's she also has a

1400
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 8: clock radio on her knees. Okay, how long we go

1401
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 8: in here?

1402
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: So somehow there was a twenty two minute difference, a

1403
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: twenty four minutes, twenty something minute difference between my clock.

1404
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 8: Was fast and hers was the right by twenty two

1405
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 8: minutes and twenty something minutes. And I swear, Hotel, I

1406
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 8: swear it started off like ten minutes and it just

1407
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 8: keeps getting a bigger gap. So we just did the

1408
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 8: clock change. I didn't touch my clock, so it's not

1409
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 8: like thirty four minutes slow. And I want to see

1410
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 8: if it catches up, because I think there's something wrong

1411
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 8: with it.

1412
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: To your point, like what did you get it on craigslist?

1413
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: Like where did you get this clock radio?

1414
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 5: Then?

1415
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: Right, somehow doesn't keep tying? Well, they don't make clock

1416
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: radios like that, And that's that's what I thought you

1417
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: should make.

1418
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 5: The term clock radio.

1419
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 6: I got to cut.

1420
01:02:58,800 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 5: It used to be a Oh.

1421
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: It's a digital clock. I don't even know if it

1422
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:04,439
Speaker 1: has a radio.

1423
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 6: I got do you wanted to read?

1424
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 7: I got a good clock radio quick clock radio story.

1425
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 7: I promise it's not boring. Oh I did, but real

1426
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 7: quick I had the same as well deserved I've had

1427
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 7: the same one since probably two thousand and eight.

1428
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 6: It's a good one. It's a big one.

1429
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 7: When we lived in our old house, when we first

1430
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 7: moved to Sharon, the clock would just change randomly, like

1431
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 7: it would just like why is the time? I was

1432
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 7: like the kids, I'm like, are you messing with this

1433
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 7: or something?

1434
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 6: Never did.

1435
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 7: Finally, as we're getting ready to move out and I

1436
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 7: still have this clock change and as we moved to

1437
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 7: the different house, it's never changed again. I found out

1438
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 7: that like one of the women who owned the house

1439
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 7: actually had died in the room that we were and

1440
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 7: so this clock radio when we were there, which which

1441
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 7: was late for meeting, would randomly change times.

1442
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 6: I still have it.

1443
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 7: It's never changed times anymore unless my kids were like

1444
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 7: constantly messing with me. That's my closest thing to closest.

1445
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: You guys still have clocks, just a big clock so

1446
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: you look over do you just use your phone for everything?

1447
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 8: You never you got to wake up and clear it changed.

1448
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 8: You didn't have to go around your house changing any clock.

1449
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: I changed. I changed my stove, stove, microwave. You don't

1450
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: have any of those things? Yeah I did change. No,

1451
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't have a microwave. Yeah, they changed microwave, I changed.

1452
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 7: I don't have awave.

1453
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 5: I don't know what I do without a microwave.

1454
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: One of those.

1455
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 9: But I do not have a in the air fire

1456
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 9: and even then I only use my air fairly we have.

1457
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: From the microwave came with the apartment, all right.

1458
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 5: We had a little trivia.

1459
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: That's how you know they've done nothing in free agency.

1460
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: That's how you know is the best signe?

1461
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 5: Okay. First question is what four movies did Tom Brady

1462
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 5: appear in?

1463
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: Tedai?

1464
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1465
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, good one.

1466
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 7: He was in another fairly Brothers movie too, where he's

1467
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 7: like a redneck kind of like.

1468
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 9: It has to be a movie, rightage doesn't count was

1469
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 9: a movie?

1470
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in the Entrage movie.

1471
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was in the movie.

1472
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 7: It's like shallow three okay, shallow House one more.

1473
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't a shallow there stuck on.

1474
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: You wag, isn't it problem? It's Matt David Matt.

1475
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 7: Matt Damon and I did not know that.

1476
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 5: Brad Chris from Duxbury got that. One. Second question, what

1477
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 5: Division one college did Dion branch attend Louisville? Yeah, that's

1478
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 5: William got that one and how many touchdowns did Chad

1479
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,479
Speaker 5: Ocho Cinco have with the Patriots One?

1480
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, I remember that one.

1481
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 5: Anthony got that one? Okay, that's your trivia. Good stuff.

1482
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 5: A lot of emails, a lot of calls coming in.

1483
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 5: We've been remiss, so let me get to them. Uh,

1484
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 5: Scotty is in New York. What's up, Scotty. Scotty doesn't okay.

1485
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 14: I was just wondering, now if asking you guys just

1486
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 14: we will.

1487
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 12: I'm not as up in arms.

1488
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 14: With the Patriots off season as everyone else, but I

1489
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 14: feel like it does maybe change what we're gonna do

1490
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 14: with three overall. With well, with the lack of talent

1491
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 14: we actually have in the three important needs on offense

1492
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 14: that we could actually use top one hundred picks on,

1493
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 14: I think it would make sense to move back and

1494
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 14: whatever need do you put the team in, whether it's

1495
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 14: quarterback first, or offensive line or receiver or whatever. We

1496
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 14: we just need more shots at actually hitting on those picks,

1497
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 14: and I don't think we can currently do that with.

1498
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 15: The amount of AMMO we currently have.

1499
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 14: I was just wondering what you guys thought about that,

1500
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 14: all right?

1501
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 7: I mean, I I Scotty I think, and it's I mean,

1502
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 7: is anybody willing to just roll through the year with

1503
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 7: Jacoby Brissett and yet get a Joe Ault and one

1504
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 7: of the top five receivers in this class? Like, is

1505
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 7: that not possible?

1506
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: What if you throw a fifth round pick to the

1507
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: Bears for Justin Fields on draft weekend and instead of

1508
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: us having to watch Dakobe Rerissette no offense for seventeen games,

1509
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: sure then that would trade back? Yeah, I just I

1510
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: think that to you know, Scotty's point is why he

1511
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: said that he's not as up in arms about the

1512
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: off season. I think the reason why people are up

1513
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: in arms about the off season is now we have

1514
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: to talk about trading down because they did nothing in

1515
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: the off season to fill some of these needs to

1516
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 1: make it ready for the quarterback to just drop Drake

1517
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: may or Jayden Daniels in this offense and hit the

1518
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,959
Speaker 1: ground running. So now you've pushed it down the road.

1519
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: You know, you've extended this rebuild a little bit longer

1520
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: where you could have maybe done it a little bit fast.

1521
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,959
Speaker 8: I'll go back to my timeline that I can't seem

1522
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 8: to figure out how to sift through and filter. I

1523
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 8: don't see a lot of up in arms about the

1524
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 8: off season the fans. I see a lot of upper

1525
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 8: arms about that. Did their upper arms about it, but

1526
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 8: with specifically, and I wish Scotty didn't hang up so quickly.

1527
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 8: I think it comes down to what you think about

1528
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 8: Jaden Daniels or Drake May. That to me is the

1529
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 8: only determining factor. Fred said it earlier. If you don't

1530
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 8: think he's a franchise guy, then you don't take him.

1531
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 8: And if you don't take him, I think probably the

1532
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 8: best thing to do would be to try to move

1533
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 8: down and get more picks.

1534
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you do.

1535
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 8: Think that one of those two guys is worth being

1536
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 8: a franchise quarterback, then you take them. Like this stuff

1537
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 8: that they've done to me doesn't change the mentality. The

1538
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 8: only thing that changes the mentality is your opinion of

1539
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 8: Drake May or Jaden Daniels.

1540
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 5: Right, it's really that simple. Let's not make it more

1541
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 5: complicated than that. Ben in New York says, I'm not

1542
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 5: that mad about losing out on Ridley after seeing the

1543
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 5: Titans they're paying him until he's thirty four. I was

1544
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,799
Speaker 5: always a bit worried he was. On the other older

1545
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 5: side and would fit the timetable and would not fit

1546
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 5: the timetable of our rebuild. But again, I don't worry about.

1547
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 8: Etty three, get rid of him and probably thirty one

1548
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 8: because it's really a two year, fifty million dollars.

1549
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1550
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 5: I know there's been reporting that we're out on free

1551
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 5: agent players, But what are your thoughts on these names?

1552
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 5: He names five Hollywood Brown, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Mackai Beckton,

1553
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 5: and Andres Pete.

1554
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: Mike Williams is the only ones that interests me on

1555
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: that list.

1556
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, me too, And even him, it's you know, isn't

1557
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 7: he I saw, yeah, he's coming, and then I saw

1558
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 7: like one of the injury things where it was like

1559
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 7: sixty percent chance he'll miss a game this year. You know,

1560
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 7: they project that kind of stuff. So but I'd be

1561
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 7: I'd be with it. But again it's it's I just

1562
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 7: want to have your own guys. You want to get

1563
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 7: your own receiver, you want to develop them, you want

1564
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 7: to retain them. You know that's you don't want to

1565
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 7: always have to be go run into other people's stuff.

1566
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he's not the long He's a twenty twenty

1567
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: four player. It's just better than in this draft. Once

1568
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: you get through the first wave of the receivers, finding

1569
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,480
Speaker 1: that true X receiver to play on the outside gets difficult.

1570
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: It's really uh key on Coleman, tes Walker, those those

1571
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: two guys, and then like Brandon Rice maybe a little

1572
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: bit later on day two. But I love the the

1573
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: Z slot guys like the lad mcconkey's, the Ricky Piersoll's,

1574
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: the Washington guys that are gonna go on day two.

1575
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot deeper in that type of

1576
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: skill set. So to me, Mike Williams is just we

1577
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: need somebody to play this spot in the offense. He

1578
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: you know, is it probably a better version of it

1579
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: the Devonte Parker. And now we're not forcing a pick

1580
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: in the draft on on an X receiver because we

1581
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: don't have one.

1582
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 7: What do you feel about playing Thorton outside next year?

1583
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 7: I mean just putting him outside at the X, you know,

1584
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 7: because they always kind of dick around with him, like

1585
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 7: coming into the formation and trying to run him through

1586
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 7: traffic and little cross you know, trying to get him.

1587
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: A little blue for you a little a little bit,

1588
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: a little.

1589
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 7: Screw around, but you know, just get him to run

1590
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 7: down the field to run comebacks.

1591
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 5: You know.

1592
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's had a tough time getting off physical

1593
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: coverage and like when you line up at the X

1594
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: on the boundary that it's all press man in the league,

1595
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna get guys in your told me he's not

1596
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: even gonna be on the team.

1597
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 7: No, I know, but I'm looking at the roster and

1598
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 7: I'm like, there's nobody who can play outside.

1599
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: That's why that's why Mike Williams interests me, because otherwise

1600
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: you're really forcing yourself to target a specific skill set

1601
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,560
Speaker 1: in the draft. Of that that big, you know, bodied outside.

1602
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 7: You're probably not going to be able to get right

1603
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 7: unless he's ready to pick him.

1604
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: A trading up for Adie Mitchell from thirty four or

1605
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: something like that.

1606
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 5: Kyle from Pembroke. I hate all this time of training

1607
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 5: down from three. There are three blue chip quarterback prospects

1608
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 5: this year, which doesn't always happened. QB is the most

1609
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 5: important position of the game, and if we punt on

1610
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 5: it this year, there is no telling how long it'll

1611
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 5: take us to be in that position to draft blue

1612
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 5: chip prospect. We shouldn't waste this opportunity. We need to

1613
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 5: take a quarterback this year.

1614
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: I do agree with a lot of what he said,

1615
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: but the fact that they might not be in the

1616
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: position guess what, they they'll probably be in the position

1617
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five to take one of these quarterbacks. Guys.

1618
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 8: Part of his mentality was that you have to marry

1619
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 8: being in position to get one with the ability to

1620
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 8: have one there.

1621
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just don't really love when people try to

1622
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: predict next year's quarterback class a year early, because every

1623
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 1: single year Jaden Daniels was a third round pick. Daniels

1624
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: wasn't one of these rows. Yeah, you know, Baker May

1625
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 1: Williams and May Daniels wasn't. Yeah, you know, all these

1626
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: guys just come out of nowhere, you know. And then

1627
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: also you know guys that are later like Appendix or

1628
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: bon Nicks really held their case this year year to

1629
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: be strong top fifty quarterback prospects, and bo Nix at

1630
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: Auburn was barely a college quarterback, let alone an NFL quarterback.

1631
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 5: But one thing is certain that these three guys are

1632
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 5: here this year.

1633
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 8: And so if you think, yeah, the email was right,

1634
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 8: if if that's how the team views it, there's three

1635
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 8: blue chip quarterbacks.

1636
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: You have to take one.

1637
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 5: Yep, Todd writes in he says, what do we think

1638
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 5: of Matt Castle as a comparison for Drake May? Nearly

1639
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 5: identical body type six four to two twenty five, arm

1640
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 5: strength and mobility seems similar. Obviously, May is more highly

1641
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 5: regarded coming out of college than Castle was in five.

1642
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 5: But if May's first sixteen games, whenever they happen, look

1643
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 5: like Castle's eight numbers, I consider it a success.

1644
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: I might not going to be playing with an All

1645
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: Star team if all, if all Drake May is is

1646
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: Matt Castle, then we are in trouble.

1647
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 8: If Drake May in twenty four plays like Matt Castle

1648
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 8: did in eight, you'll be building a statue to him

1649
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 8: with that team if he can be that like he

1650
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 8: Matt Castle, first of all, was like three years in

1651
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 8: the league, three or four years in the league. It

1652
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 8: was a fourth year I think because he was a

1653
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 8: free agent ended up franchising him and after that eight season,

1654
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 8: so he was a four years in the league, fourth

1655
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 8: year with an All Star team. Across the board offensively,

1656
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 8: Moss Welker, I mean that team was loaded. They've going

1657
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 8: sixteen and oh the year before this team isn't that.

1658
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 8: And I don't think that there's much the same. I

1659
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 8: don't think that Castle was like a good runner, elusive.

1660
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 8: This guy's a tank.

1661
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, anakin from Tatuwine, right, sin He says, I'm not worried.

1662
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 5: Are you worried? We knew how Elliott Wolf operates. The

1663
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 5: talent doesn't come from outside, it comes from inside in

1664
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 5: the draft, hoping they double dip a wide receiver in

1665
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 5: the draft and get xavierly Get and Brendan Rice. Maybe

1666
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 5: also double dip at tackle. Elliot Wolf tried to get

1667
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley, so yeah, maybe obviously he knows that drafting

1668
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 5: his important, that's probably more important in the in the hierarchy.

1669
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 5: But he just tried to get Calvin Ridley, so he

1670
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 5: doesn't just try to build.

1671
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 8: It amazes me that this still happens a little bit

1672
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 8: like we didn't want him anyway. Yeah, no, they wanted him, No,

1673
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 8: they did. I wouldn't have paid him that much. Well,

1674
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 8: the Patriots would have, according to reports. According to reports, Yeah.

1675
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: They were willing to.

1676
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm sorry, if you offered him twenty two

1677
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 8: million a year and he took twenty three, you were

1678
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 8: willing to do the same thing. Yep, he chose another team.

1679
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 8: Like if it makes you feel better by saying you're

1680
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 8: you're glad that we didn't get him, then yeah, by

1681
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 8: all means shoot your best shot.

1682
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 7: To your point, PAULI you said at the top, it's

1683
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 7: it's it's at least an encouraging sign that they recognize

1684
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 7: that and that they have to go get that kind

1685
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 7: of guy and they missed out on it, and it's frustrating.

1686
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 7: But you know, I again, like I just I would

1687
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 7: if it was like AJ Brown or somebody that I

1688
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 7: was like, this guy is just all over the place.

1689
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 7: I you know, Calvin Ridley's really good player, But like.

1690
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 8: I think that's how Calvin Ridley was thought of before

1691
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 8: his suspension. Yeah, I think the suspension has had a

1692
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 8: lot of people forget about how good he was.

1693
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 1: I just as much as I hear the point of

1694
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: they did try to pay Calvin Ridley. Calculated spending in

1695
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: free agency and building through the draft is what the

1696
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: Packers do. I mean, the Packers are not going to

1697
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: be one of these teams that goes out and hands

1698
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars out in free agency. Ever, and

1699
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: having you know, his father, Ron Wolfe signed Reggie White,

1700
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: which was one of the biggest, you know, early splashes

1701
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: in the history of free agency. People still call it

1702
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: the greatest free agent signing in the history of Yeah,

1703
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: so it's not that he won't do it ever, but

1704
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: that was like one of like three moves like that

1705
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: in his entire tenure as the Packers GM that you

1706
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 1: can point, we're just lucky he had. God.

1707
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, but you look at them was a god. I mean,

1708
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,799
Speaker 8: let's seriously, you look at the.

1709
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 5: Wonder about in Green Bay, like, do they have the

1710
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 5: ability to spend that much cash over cap because it's

1711
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 5: not an owner.

1712
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: It's possible that that's part of it. But last year

1713
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: the Packers, out of their twenty two starters in the

1714
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: playoff game that they played against the forty nine Ers,

1715
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 1: one player was not drafted by the Packers and it's

1716
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: an extremely young roster too. Yeah, Green Bay.

1717
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 5: Rodrigo tries to make a point, but I think he's

1718
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 5: forgetting something we were talking about, like, you know, you

1719
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 5: need to have that line ready for the young quarterback.

1720
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 5: He said, did Burrow have a good left tackle when

1721
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 5: he got drafted? The answer might be no, but he

1722
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 5: also got hurt right away because of his line.

1723
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 8: No, but and if if we had listen, if the

1724
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 8: quarterback is great, I'm not going to be worried about

1725
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 8: the offensive line.

1726
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 1: No I'm not. Yeah, but but it's going to be

1727
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: a Catch twenty two.

1728
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 5: It does matter, you know, if you have the chance.

1729
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 7: Speaking of Witch, I don't know, uh if you saw,

1730
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 7: but it's got we go. You have sponsorship reads now

1731
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 7: as well, starting next week, so Evan will be in

1732
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,799
Speaker 7: on the sponsor contest.

1733
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm very happy about that. But also I have to

1734
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: read them and I'm not good at it, so that'll

1735
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: be what do.

1736
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,480
Speaker 7: Catch twenty two will now have sponsorship reads.

1737
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: Does thank you? Thank for you?

1738
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 7: So Alex Canton, maybe I might allowed to say who

1739
01:16:59,000 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 7: the sponsor is.

1740
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: That's it's like the same.

1741
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 5: It's not like Jersey Mike, easy to drink.

1742
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: Easy to enjoy. But like you know how many times

1743
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: I Kenny, your sponsor, about getting Jersey Mikes to start

1744
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: to sponsor Catch twenty two, I'm like, Kenny, just make

1745
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 1: it happen.

1746
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 5: You'll work for food right, just bring us are.

1747
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: Like good food store. I just doing okay. I want

1748
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: a turkey soup. Like everybody else has a car, I

1749
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: want a car who else has a car. I'll out

1750
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 1: for the context, guys.

1751
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 7: If we if we spin off Pep in the deuce,

1752
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 7: we can get a contact sponsorship and we'll both be like,

1753
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,560
Speaker 7: you know, we go on Google ID and they'll.

1754
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: Take Awake in wenty brought to you by what is Pep?

1755
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 5: And the deuice is going to be brought to you.

1756
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 7: Oh well take your pick, Colasslas.

1757
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 6: Coffee Company. Duncan would work.

1758
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 7: Duncan would work because you know you have your coffee

1759
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 7: and then the Pep in the deuce wake up in

1760
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 7: the morning with what goes best with peepe thedw's a coffee?

1761
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 5: This show stinks.

1762
01:17:59,080 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 6: We're coming every morning.

1763
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 5: Eight Christians in LA. What's up Christian?

1764
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 3: Hey you guys, Happy Thursday to you.

1765
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 6: Yeah and yeah.

1766
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 3: The draft is coming. So this season of hopefulness is

1767
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 3: upon us. So I have a totally irrational take at

1768
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 3: irrational take my totally irrational take exist and follow my

1769
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 3: thinking at the end here.

1770
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 12: So we start off.

1771
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 3: With Marvin Harris in the first round. Second round, we

1772
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 3: take another one of these top flight wide receivers the

1773
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 3: third round, and this regus kind of crazy. I think

1774
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 3: we may be able to get a bow Knicks or

1775
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,919
Speaker 3: someone like that, or if we can't get bow Nicks,

1776
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 3: we take another offensive weapons and then instead of taking

1777
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 3: a fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh mid round players like

1778
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 3: we always do, pack and we get a fourth round

1779
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:57,480
Speaker 3: tackle body throw it in there. Go aggressively after Mike Williams.

1780
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 3: And now we're in a position where we're one quarter

1781
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 3: back away going into free agency next year.

1782
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 5: You got six.

1783
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 7: Receiver thirteen wide receivers can only pay five skill position

1784
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 7: players at a time.

1785
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1786
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, when you filled you filled one of the ten holes.

1787
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 8: You filled the hole a wide receiver.

1788
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: That's it.

1789
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 3: We have running back, we have tight end. Now we

1790
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 3: have legitimate generational wide receivers.

1791
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 5: So we have a tight end. Barrel Brown's gone because

1792
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 5: Sickie's gone.

1793
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: We have Austin Hooper. Okay, all right, but we don't

1794
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: have an offensive line and we don't have a quarterback.

1795
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 12: NFL tight end.

1796
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 3: I'm willing to go with those guys to put together

1797
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,799
Speaker 3: a fully stacked wide receiver.

1798
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 12: Coore a great, great.

1799
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 8: Running I want to ask a question, tight end, if

1800
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 8: we if we have a tight end, why is that

1801
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 8: tight end going to be part.

1802
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: Of the future?

1803
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 8: At age twenty nine? But Calvin Ridley at age twenty

1804
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 8: nine would not be part of the future if they

1805
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 8: had traded for.

1806
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 3: Him, because tight ends are valued differently than than wide receivers,

1807
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 3: and they get different money and their usage.

1808
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, I didn't ask you about what I

1809
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 8: didn't ask about what they were making.

1810
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: I was told it was dumb to.

1811
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 8: Try to get a twenty nine year old wide receiver

1812
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 8: because he will not be part of your team when

1813
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 8: you get good. Why is having a tight end at

1814
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 8: age twenty nine going to be part of your team

1815
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 8: when you get good. I'm not talking about their contract.

1816
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Well you put together a package of players

1817
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 3: that you're now one quarterback away getting out.

1818
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 8: Well, your package of players doesn't leave you a quarterback away.

1819
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 8: It leaves you a lot of things away.

1820
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 3: Mike Wait, Marvin Harrison, Mike Williams, whoever? We get at

1821
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 3: a high second round receiver.

1822
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 8: So what if Mike Williams can't play? What if Mike

1823
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 8: Williams plays five games like he does for the Chargers

1824
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 8: every year?

1825
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, then we have that high second second round.

1826
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 8: Okay, So you don't have an offensive line, who is

1827
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 8: you don't have a ball back.

1828
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 5: There's only one quarterback away.

1829
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 8: You don't have an offensive line or a quarterback art

1830
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 8: who and you have a high a high a high

1831
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 8: wide receivers, and in two years you won't have any

1832
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 8: tight ends either, because I'm told when you get to

1833
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 8: be twenty nine, you can't be part of the future.

1834
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: That's what I've been told.

1835
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 5: I like, you know, wide receiver university, just bring them

1836
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 5: all in.

1837
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: I love the double dip idea wide receiver.

1838
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 8: But that's the only one who likes that is Eldrid

1839
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:21,879
Speaker 8: All wide receivers all the time.

1840
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 1: I like double dipping at wide receiver, like if you

1841
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: if you draft a receiver in the second round and

1842
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: the fourth round, I'm all for that.

1843
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 5: Stevie in Sexist writes in I also talk about the algorithm.

1844
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 5: I also get these random Twitter fan pages that pop.

1845
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: Up on my feed.

1846
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 5: My favorite ones are the ones who listened to PU and.

1847
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: The other guys that cover the Patriots. Those are fans.

1848
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 5: My favorite ones are the ones who listen to PU

1849
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 5: and catch twenty two and then start tweeting your guys

1850
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 5: takes like it's some magical idea that they came up with.

1851
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 5: Savage Sports and Patriot red Zone. This is for you,

1852
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 5: you frauds now go tweet that take.

1853
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: Wow, I love that email because that I do. I'm

1854
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: not saying that they're sealing just my takes. They do

1855
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: that all the time where it's like, oh, I'll you know,

1856
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: oh I you know, Mike Williams might be actually a

1857
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: good idea, like at like ten fifteen after I gave

1858
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: that you catch twenty two.

1859
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 7: If you're gonna be a thought leader, you just have

1860
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 7: to accept it.

1861
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: Trailblazers.

1862
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 16: Uh.

1863
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 5: Fred wright's Ford writs in from Savannah, Georgia, old man, Paul,

1864
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 5: get off my feed. This one is producing the kids.

1865
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 5: I was surprised to learn that you were reality TV

1866
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 5: junkies as well. In the frame of The Bachelor, it

1867
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 5: seems like Mac and Zappi were on a two on

1868
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 5: one and Mac didn't get the rose. And every time

1869
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 5: someone goes on a two on one, they never end

1870
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 5: up as the winner, even if they survived that date.

1871
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 5: That's how I view Zappy. Now can I walk you out?

1872
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great analogy. I'm not a big Bachelor

1873
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: person though they have two on one. Yeah, I understand

1874
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 1: where he it's.

1875
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 7: Not what you two people enter they got, not what

1876
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 7: you got on vacation in Mexico. No, I think I'm

1877
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 7: on record saying I I I will watch the Bachelor

1878
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 7: because I like watching just a bunch of crazy girls,

1879
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 7: like but like a bunch of dumb dudes on the Bachelorette.

1880
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't.

1881
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,759
Speaker 6: That's not as interest me just as dumb dudes.

1882
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 7: I think crazy girls are a lot more entertaining and

1883
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 7: fun to watch them.

1884
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 5: I can't.

1885
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: I don't. We don't watch.

1886
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 9: I don't want to get looped in.

1887
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't watch that much.

1888
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 6: Really, I don't watch.

1889
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watch a lot of that crap. I don't

1890
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: really get into that.

1891
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 9: I used to get kicked out of my my senior year,

1892
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 9: I lived in an apartment with some of my friends.

1893
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 9: They used to kick me out on Monday nights because

1894
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 9: they would watch. They would all watch together and I

1895
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 9: would sit there and roast Point for everything.

1896
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: Go Fran But that's but that's the point of watching

1897
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: it at point, like you watch it to roast the

1898
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: people that are off the show. I don't watch it. Seriously.

1899
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 9: My brain cells were just so.

1900
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 1: You need to you need to leave. I mean that's

1901
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 1: what we did, just spend the whole time just being

1902
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 1: like what a dummy, like it's not.

1903
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 9: Just kick you out of the house, like no, because.

1904
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 1: She roasts them.

1905
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 8: With me, I generally will try to start, you know,

1906
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 8: like trying to be like you know, she's watches a

1907
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 8: lot of crappy sports, you know, with me, try to

1908
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 8: in fifteen minutes, and I'm like thinking, all of that

1909
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 8: stuff is in my head.

1910
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 9: But you get hooked.

1911
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,839
Speaker 8: If I start doing that, she's going to get annoyed.

1912
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 8: So I just go, okay, yeah, I'll watch.

1913
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 7: We just we just watched that Poor Things movie.

1914
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 6: Did you see that one?

1915
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: Poor Things? I know that was big on the.

1916
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Oscars.

1917
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1918
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,560
Speaker 7: Lane put it on quite the quite the tour de

1919
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 7: Force from Emma what's her face stone Stone? Yeah, I

1920
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 7: was surprised.

1921
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 6: Well, someone told me there was a lot of nudity

1922
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 6: in and then there's a lot of news.

1923
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: Is that why you watched it, Mike.

1924
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 7: No, Lane was watching and I was just kind of

1925
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 7: writing up free agency things.

1926
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 4: Isn't she supposed to be a dead person though, you know.

1927
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 7: It's kind of Frankenstein. They take like, you know, she

1928
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 7: dies and then they put a baby brain in her head,

1929
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 7: and then she's kind of baby and she's got an

1930
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 7: innocent view of the world.

1931
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 6: But it's all it's very style. Yeah, it was. It was.

1932
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,600
Speaker 7: It was a really interesting I mean, I don't know

1933
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 7: it was visually interesting.

1934
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 6: I know it was fine.

1935
01:24:55,640 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: It was visually interesting, dude, because you're not paying attention

1936
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: at the beginning.

1937
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 7: There's a lot of fish eye lenses and just you know,

1938
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 7: but production designed very interesting, mister Hollywood cinemato.

1939
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: It's like how Bill Belichick watches football. You just you can't,

1940
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, you can't just watch it to have fun,

1941
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: can you do?

1942
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 6: Honestly, No, that's a bigger problem.

1943
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 1: Like the whole life, like it's.

1944
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 8: You know, one one camera sit like I could not

1945
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 8: tell you all those differences, and I know, like for you,

1946
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 8: as someone who was sort of part of that world,

1947
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 8: all of those little intricacies I'm sure are fascinating to you.

1948
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 7: It's it's harder for me with song writing because as

1949
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 7: like you read a lot of screenwriting books, you take

1950
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 7: screen in classes, and then you just see structure in

1951
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 7: movies and you can't really watch them because you're like

1952
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 7: there's page seventy five, you know, you just kind of

1953
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 7: see the structure points going by that that's kind of sucks.

1954
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I can't watch movies anyways.

1955
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 5: Tom and England writes in the Talk of Elliott Wolf

1956
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 5: auditioning for the GM position or the team looking to

1957
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 5: hire someone else after the offseason seems ridiculous. Surely, any

1958
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 5: judgment of how well the team is operated in the

1959
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 5: draft slash free agency has to wait until the players

1960
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 5: hit the field and start performing in games. The whole

1961
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 5: coaching slash front off of staff should be given a

1962
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 5: real shot at doing things their way rather than looking

1963
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 5: for the quickest way to make fans that ownership happy

1964
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 5: in the short term.

1965
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with that.

1966
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 7: I agree with that because it feels like if they

1967
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 7: were to, you know, get rid of one of these

1968
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 7: guys after free agency or the draft, it would just

1969
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 7: feel like almost the fans of how they're reacting to

1970
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 7: what they think, and you know, we don't really know

1971
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 7: who they might be.

1972
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: It's not unprecedented stuff. It's not unprecedented for a personnel

1973
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: guy to handle the draft and then them clean house

1974
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: and start over in May. The Bills did it not

1975
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 1: too long ago, so it's not when they hire Brandon Bean.

1976
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: So it's not totally unprecedented. You know, you did so

1977
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 1: much homework in the fall on the draft that to

1978
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: throw everybody out and then start over in January. You're

1979
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: starting way behind the eight ball. So a lot of

1980
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 1: times they just let them finish it out and they

1981
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: do hire somebody at that point.

1982
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 5: It's it always seems weird though, because you would all

1983
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 5: you would think that the people that exist in the

1984
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 5: front office kind of have an inkling that this is

1985
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 5: it for us, and like, so what's their investment on

1986
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 5: doing a good job for the organized.

1987
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: Next job another job?

1988
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess, yeah, yeah, I mean nail the draft

1989
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 5: by like if you you know, you're professional, you do

1990
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 5: a good job and they end up having a good draft.

1991
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: You know.

1992
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 8: I guess like Chris, Chris Greer was involved with Bobby

1993
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 8: at the time when he left, and Chris Greer is

1994
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 8: now in charge of Miami, Like I don't know if

1995
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 8: that helped him or not, but yeah, I mean.

1996
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,919
Speaker 5: I guess it's a small world, yeah, and everybody knows everybody,

1997
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 5: so it's in your best interest to always put your

1998
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 5: best foot forward.

1999
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 8: I guess I think Chris Greer was involved in wasn't

2000
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 8: he Wasn't he around back then on our team?

2001
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2002
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was I'm not that's how Mikees met him.

2003
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm not misremembering his career.

2004
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 7: Who's the GM of the Sharks too? Family of gms.

2005
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 6: That's pretty rare.

2006
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: Is he the GM of the Sharks? Huh? Ray Raymond

2007
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: Wrights should probably rents not body.

2008
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 5: Would you all be excited if we got Marvin Harrison

2009
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 5: Junior or Neighbors at one or at three and traded

2010
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 5: for fields and use that second round pick on a tackle? Also,

2011
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 5: what do you think about Hollywood Brown? What do you

2012
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 5: fit with us? So so you get you get the

2013
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 5: receiver at three, you take a tackle in the second round,

2014
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 5: and you trade for fields, would you be excited about that?

2015
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: Sure?

2016
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 6: I mean sure? Yeah? No, I mean Milik Neighbors. I

2017
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,520
Speaker 6: really I'm intrigued by him.

2018
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge Hollywood Brown guy.

2019
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 6: I'm not either.

2020
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: If Rondell Moore to the Falcons for Desmond Rit if

2021
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: they had traded down, yeah, and then they got the

2022
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 1: stockpile of picks for trading down and then took Malik Neighbors, Yeah,

2023
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 1: then I'm with you on that. And then the same

2024
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 1: exact thing then sure, yes, sticking out and taking the receiver.

2025
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 6: No, I'm with you.

2026
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: That I do like mylik neighbors.

2027
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 8: I like that trade Rondell Moore's we like that guy.

2028
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 8: Give another another valuable piece to Kirk Cousins. Desmond are

2029
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 8: probably not ever going to be the Falcons quarterback, so

2030
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 8: why not move.

2031
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 5: Them Zane from New Jersey. Can someone please explain to

2032
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 5: me why the Patriots are the only team that needs

2033
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 5: to build everything first before taking the franchise quarterback. The

2034
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,799
Speaker 5: Giants of rumored to trade up with us for a quarterback,

2035
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 5: but they also have no wide receivers in o line

2036
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 5: that gave up ninety sacks last year, no running backs

2037
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 5: in a tight end that is mulling retirement. So it

2038
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 5: makes sense for the Giants to trade up and draft

2039
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 5: a franchise quarterback with that mess, but not for the

2040
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 5: Patriots to draft a franchise quarterback. I don't get the

2041
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 5: logic with trading back with the Giants.

2042
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 7: Well, I think the logic is just that they don't

2043
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 7: have like the argument is is that the Patriots have

2044
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 7: like below the line of acceptable surrounding talent and protection

2045
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 7: for that quarterback. It doesn't necessarily all need to be

2046
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 7: in place and perfect for the next five years.

2047
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 6: That that, you know, But I.

2048
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 7: Think you at least need to feel like we've got

2049
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 7: a good left tackle. We've got a couple of pieces

2050
01:29:58,120 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 7: that will help this kid out when when it's pressure,

2051
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 7: they're able to get open off the line quick. You

2052
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 7: know those things, But right now you look at the

2053
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 7: roster that they don't really have those pieces.

2054
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 1: I also don't know why we care if the Giants

2055
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 1: mess it up or not. I say giants unfiltered.

2056
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 8: But I think it's this is the same argument that

2057
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 8: I would make. It's about what you think of Jayden

2058
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 8: Daniels and Drake may Like. If you think they're worth

2059
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 8: picking at three, you're gonna pick them. You're not going

2060
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 8: to trade back. This is the trade back to me.

2061
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 8: Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they're going to just do it

2062
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 8: no matter what. But I think if they like one

2063
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 8: of those quarterbacks, they're not trading back.

2064
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree.

2065
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 8: I'm with you and the Giants. Yeah, they very The

2066
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 8: guy's right, the Giants have nothing.

2067
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: Their receivers are better than he gives them credit for.

2068
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: But for the most part he was right.

2069
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 8: To Tarrrian Wright, I'm kind of like the young kid.

2070
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 5: T Terrian wants to tell us what's really crazy. Crazy

2071
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 5: he says. What's crazy is fighting for you, is fighting

2072
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 5: for you's products at wide receiver like Hopkins last year, now,

2073
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 5: Ridley Higgins, Hollywood Brown. When you got a guy in

2074
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,719
Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison, JUNI, you're right there for you at three,

2075
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 5: Then get a developmental guy like McCarthy the quarterback from

2076
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 5: Tennessee or Panics to mold halfway through the season, then

2077
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:08,679
Speaker 5: play them.

2078
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: Okay, how do you do both? Well, you can get

2079
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 1: the date. That's doable.

2080
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's doable.

2081
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 1: Okay, not McCarthy, I'm listening.

2082
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 5: So you take them with a second round pick.

2083
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: What if they're not there? Well, yeah, no, McCarthy won't

2084
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: be there, but but Milton will definitely be there. That's

2085
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: way too for Milton. If you get Joel Milton Tennessee

2086
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 1: thought okay, yeah, you mentioned Panics, yea at thirty. What

2087
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: if they're not there, then what do you do? Get

2088
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: another guy? Bonix?

2089
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 8: Okay, So you're just willing to just say I'm going

2090
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 8: to plug in anybody at quarterback, any developmental great, got it.

2091
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 8: So you need a quarterback. If you don't take a

2092
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 8: quarterback in the top three, you probably need a quarterback, right, do.

2093
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 7: You think they should have just held on J Brown

2094
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 7: like with that, like, why didn't that happens?

2095
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, like why didn't they somewhere? Do you think you

2096
01:31:58,680 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: think Frabel is suicidal?

2097
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 6: Now?

2098
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, like we're doing.

2099
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 8: We went out and got DeAndre Hopkins and then followed

2100
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 8: it up by twenty three million for Calvin Ridley.

2101
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: Couldn't just and we couldn't keep AJ Brown silly he

2102
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: was younger and better than better? Yeah, yeah, he's He's

2103
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: younger and better, no doubt.

2104
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 5: Let's get back to the A stick and hutline. Todd's

2105
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 5: in North Carolina, hate Todd?

2106
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 1: Oh hi, hello, Oh there we go.

2107
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 17: Okay, So there's lots of weird beeping going on when

2108
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 17: you guys are dealing with the phone.

2109
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:34,719
Speaker 5: That's that's Paul backing up his takes.

2110
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 15: So my question is.

2111
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: When I'm wrong Marks, why, Hey, I admitted it about.

2112
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 17: Your old partner in crime Andy, and he seems to

2113
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 17: feel that they're just not making any spending, et cetera.

2114
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 17: But then when I listen to you guys, it sounds

2115
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 17: like it's really hard to get people to come to

2116
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 17: New England because they don't want to be there. They

2117
01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 17: get better options with weather and taxes. And stuff elsewhere.

2118
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 17: So how important is it to have a Brady like

2119
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 17: presence on a team to draw people?

2120
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 5: In?

2121
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 1: Course, it's important to win.

2122
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 5: I mean, we can go down the list of guys

2123
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,520
Speaker 5: who came at the end of their careers good players

2124
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 5: because they had a chance to win ring chasing. Yeah,

2125
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:18,560
Speaker 5: Darrell Reeves.

2126
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: Darryl Reeves' contract was now contract was anywhere? He was

2127
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 1: traded here, wasn't he Now here's a freedom so yeah

2128
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 1: they released him.

2129
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you know Corey Dillon and Cory was

2130
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 5: traded here. Oh he was a trade.

2131
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2132
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:38,839
Speaker 5: Okay, you're going to ruin my whole thing.

2133
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 8: Right, because the tricky facts sometimes disrupt narrative, like the cash.

2134
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 8: But not those kinds of guys I think.

2135
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 17: I think they have been that QB one that's got

2136
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 17: that personality and that winning attitude. So even if we

2137
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 17: have kind of a bad year, people can look at

2138
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 17: the team and go, hey, there's potential there. I look

2139
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 17: at this guy's leader.

2140
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 5: This is going, Rodney Harrison.

2141
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 8: You have to win, just keep going, Rodney Harrison to

2142
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 8: Rodney Harrison's admission didn't have a lot of options. I

2143
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 8: got it, But you have I mean, you have to

2144
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 8: if you win, then all of those things you absolutely

2145
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 8: will be willing to take less to ring Chase Everyon

2146
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 8: just talked about it with Tyrone Smith earlier on the show,

2147
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 8: like it's not a hard concept. Did Tom Brady's presence

2148
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 8: help you sign people without question?

2149
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, I just the spending thing is always going

2150
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 1: to irk me, Like it's just it's just factually incorrect

2151
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 1: that they haven't spent any money? Have they? Have they

2152
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: handed out a hundred million dollar contract to one player?

2153
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 12: No?

2154
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: Have they not spent any money? Also?

2155
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 6: No?

2156
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't know why we say that that they

2157
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 1: haven't spent any money in free agency. I don't. I

2158
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 1: don't say that. I know, I'm not you guys. I'm

2159
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:57,799
Speaker 1: just saying, and you know he's.

2160
01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 8: I just think this is kind of like the old

2161
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 8: school payriots thing where we're gonna have a few million

2162
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 8: on a million different guys and think that that's how

2163
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 8: you do it. And it's kind of like the thing

2164
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,759
Speaker 8: I always make fun of Mike about you still believe

2165
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 8: in Santa Claus, Like, yeah, that worked when you had

2166
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 8: Tom Brady presidence.

2167
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 6: Just show up?

2168
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 7: I mean, who does it?

2169
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: You know?

2170
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 8: And I think that there's one thing that I worry

2171
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 8: about is I felt last year, listening to Bill every

2172
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 8: week and then listening occasionally to some quotes out of

2173
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 8: the locker room, they didn't feel they were a four.

2174
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 1: And thirteen team.

2175
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 8: They felt like, you know, break break here or there,

2176
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 8: better quarterback play. This team's really not that far I

2177
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 8: disagree with that, And the way they're going about it

2178
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 8: right now tells me they agreed with Bill.

2179
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: They didn't think they were that far away. They think the.

2180
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 8: Problem was Bill and mac Jones, and we had to

2181
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 8: get rid of those guys and make sure we keep

2182
01:35:58,080 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 8: everybody else.

2183
01:35:59,000 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Now.

2184
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 8: I know they're not done, and I know this is

2185
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 8: just the start of the rebuild. But that's what this

2186
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 8: reeks up to me is two thousand and five Patriots rebuilt.

2187
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2188
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 7: Well, my only kind of pushback, I totally get what

2189
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 7: you're saying is just that they don't have any players

2190
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,600
Speaker 7: under contracts. So it's like they you know, like I

2191
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 7: just said, Infony Jennings is the first defensive player to

2192
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 7: be on the twenty twenty six roster that it wasn't

2193
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 7: a draft pick last year, So who else are you

2194
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 7: gonna build that team around? You know, like it's impossible

2195
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 7: to go out get new guys, give all these different

2196
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 7: players contracts that are going to last in the future.

2197
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 5: You're you're you're.

2198
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 7: Establishing a little bit more of a core right now.

2199
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 7: And I think if that, if that sticks going forward,

2200
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 7: so that they continue to kind of kick the can down,

2201
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 7: then then that's a problem.

2202
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 8: And I'm going to go back to the one thing

2203
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 8: that's sort of annoyed me because I don't have a

2204
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,679
Speaker 8: huge problem with what they've done, you know, I really don't.

2205
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 8: I know it probably sounds like I do, but I don't.

2206
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 8: I'm disappointed, like Fred about Ridley, That's that's kind of it.

2207
01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 8: But I don't understand the mentality that you can't sign

2208
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 8: these guys because they won't be part of the future.

2209
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 8: They won't be part of the next part. But like

2210
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 8: I can resign all of these guys, why are they

2211
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 8: going to be part of the future. I don't, you know,

2212
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 8: I personally would rather have one or two top level

2213
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 8: play like if they could have gotten Christian Wilkins, Like

2214
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 8: I'd rather have him than three armand Watts.

2215
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 5: And I get it, I get, you know, rebuild, but

2216
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 5: you do want to start to build a winning culture.

2217
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 1: I mean, at some point you need to, I agree,

2218
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: for at some point you have to have some success.

2219
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 5: So like if Calvin Ridley can come in here and

2220
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:39,759
Speaker 5: win you some games.

2221
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 1: But they they tried to pay, and I give them

2222
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 1: and that's why I said, I'm actually excited that. But

2223
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 1: the whole point, right, I agree, And the whole point

2224
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 1: is to Paul's you know list over there, they're not

2225
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 1: going to c up. Okay, but that wasn't the reason

2226
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 1: they didn't signed Calvin Ridley. The armand Watts is of

2227
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:04,759
Speaker 1: the world wasn't the reason why they didn't sign Calvin

2228
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 1: Ridley Arm Watts.

2229
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 8: I haven't seen them numbers yet, but neither was Kendrick Bourne.

2230
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: Where he's gonna die on that hill. And that's fine.

2231
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: Maybe he's right, it's not yet. Like you guys just

2232
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: got finished telling me they've spent a lot of money.

2233
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,759
Speaker 1: I agree, just not well no, but but that's the difference.

2234
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 5: They have spent a lot of money. But I think

2235
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 5: where they draw their line is Mike Dussau is asking

2236
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 5: for way too much and we're just not gonna do that.

2237
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 5: We have our principles. Now you want to if you

2238
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 5: want to quit, fine, if you want to equate that

2239
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 5: to the old Bruins.

2240
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 8: No, I'm equating it to the old Patriots. Harry Sindona Belichick.

2241
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 5: He was like, let the rest of the league overpay

2242
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 5: on guys.

2243
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna take this guy to arbitration and this is

2244
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: the cost of business in two days NFL. Yeah, I

2245
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 1: don't think Calvin Ridley was overpaid yesterday.

2246
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 5: No, And I think there's overpaying, and then I think

2247
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 5: there's grossly overpaying. And I think going over twenty three,

2248
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 5: which is what they probably would have had to do,

2249
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 5: they probably said we just can't do that. We can't do.

2250
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 8: That, right, And I'm with you with your original thought

2251
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 8: on this. I'm disappointed by that. Yeah, because I think

2252
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 8: at some point, and it doesn't have to be Calvin Ridley,

2253
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:20,839
Speaker 8: Like that's where I think.

2254
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: People lose it, like, well, I don't like Ridley.

2255
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 8: He can't do this, he can't do that. It doesn't

2256
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 8: have to be Ridley. It could have been danil Hunter

2257
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 8: on the edge, like it could have been Christian Wilkins,

2258
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 8: who Evan talked about on our little free agent preview

2259
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,640
Speaker 8: that we didn't call it little, it was, Yeah.

2260
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 1: Well it was.

2261
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 8: It was frenzy, that it could be a lot of

2262
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 8: different guys understanding that Christian Wilkins is probably not going

2263
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 8: to be a Super Bowl winner with the Patriots, just

2264
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 8: like he's not going to be with the Raiders. But

2265
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,919
Speaker 8: I think, to Fred's point, you bring in better players

2266
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 8: so you can get better, and then you get a

2267
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 8: culture of SI sess and then you start to have

2268
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 8: fewer holes to fill. Then it's not so hard to

2269
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 8: worry about taxes to get a guy to sign with

2270
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 8: your team because instead of four and thirteen, you're seven

2271
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 8: and ten or eight and nine, and you're not that

2272
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,480
Speaker 8: far away. And then god forbid, you draft a quarterback

2273
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 8: at three who looks a little more like CJ. Stroud,

2274
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:24,839
Speaker 8: then Mac Jones, then you got something.

2275
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 1: There's there's absolutely no doubt that I think that they

2276
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 1: had a tough time getting people to take the bag

2277
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 1: that they were trying to throw at them because of

2278
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 1: the situation. I think that's accurate.

2279
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 8: There's no doubt I worry about that because there's not

2280
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 8: a lot you can do about that.

2281
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,959
Speaker 5: What happened last year with Hopkins, he was here.

2282
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,799
Speaker 1: Well, according to Tom Kerr, and Bill didn't want Hopkins.

2283
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 5: Bill didn't want him. I thought they were.

2284
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 1: Buds that that's what he said on the radio somewhere yesterday.

2285
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 1: That's because of it, because of his parent has.

2286
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 8: Been on a shooting spree. I love Tom, but he

2287
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 8: has been killing Bill lately.

2288
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 7: I don't know where this is going to go, but

2289
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:02,720
Speaker 7: just generally, how do you think this offseason would have

2290
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 7: looked if if Bill hadn't left, I mean compared to

2291
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:06,360
Speaker 7: what we saw over the first couple of days.

2292
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 5: Well, there would have been a reckoning and so that

2293
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 5: Robert Kraft and Bill would have had to sat down

2294
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 5: and there would have been a new start.

2295
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 1: I think I think it would have been very similar

2296
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:15,599
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I think it would have been very

2297
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: similar to this. But instead of them trying to pay

2298
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley twenty three million dollars done that, they would

2299
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 1: have paid Josh Reynolds like ten or so, you know,

2300
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:25,520
Speaker 1: something like that, Like the jujus.

2301
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 8: In the industrial complex would have told us how how

2302
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 8: much better Josh Reynolds was than Calvin Ridley?

2303
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: Right, he would that's what Or they would have given

2304
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 1: maybe gave Davis that that gave three for thirty nine

2305
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: contract but whatever.

2306
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 8: But is Shaq Mason, like I know everybody said Bill

2307
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 8: had never done it? He just did it. He did

2308
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 8: it with Shaq Mason. He then he franchised Joe Toney,

2309
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 8: and people like me said, how can you invest that

2310
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 8: much money in guards? It's not that much of a

2311
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 8: premier position. I criticized Bill for it. That's why I

2312
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 8: remember he did it. Everybody's telling me now, Bill never

2313
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 8: would have given Michael when you this deal.

2314
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: It's a little difficut. I think you would have because

2315
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Shaq was signed in training camp and not on the

2316
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 1: like Mike on Winny was on the open market, so

2317
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 1: he had a bidding war for his services, whereas Shaq Mason.

2318
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 1: They actually got it done early, I know, but it

2319
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 1: was a big money extend. It was. It was. It's

2320
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 1: it's mostly comparable, but.

2321
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 8: At the time, not for him. At the time it

2322
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,839
Speaker 8: was a big money deal. Today he didn't get nineteen

2323
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 8: million like when you did. But it's inflation.

2324
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 5: James Sanders, it's just too this is cracka.

2325
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:41,919
Speaker 1: How come he's the only one allowed to talk over everybody.

2326
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 5: I'm glad somebody appreciates that.

2327
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: Oh I appreciated it.

2328
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,759
Speaker 5: Let's go to Eldred in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred?

2329
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 12: Hey tomorrow?

2330
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 8: All right, Well, did you hear the guy that wanted

2331
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 8: to draft eleven wide receivers.

2332
01:42:58,920 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Did you catch that guy?

2333
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 12: Limb. I just want to, I just want too.

2334
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 16: But Evan, yes, sir, me and you we got to

2335
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 16: have a couple of call together one day and have

2336
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 16: a long three hour day, maybe four.

2337
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 1: I'm taking. I have to rearrange my I'm out.

2338
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,600
Speaker 16: Yeah, we gotta, we gotta have a long discussion.

2339
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 12: Understand what you're saying.

2340
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 16: But my question is there, why not get to wie

2341
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 16: receiver at three if your if your quarterback is not there,

2342
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 16: and then at two could have get get pinnicked and

2343
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 16: you keep knocking knocking down Pinnic, you know, like that

2344
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:44,640
Speaker 16: one bad game and in the championship and everything.

2345
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 12: That he can't move.

2346
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 16: He can move, but he can't run like Daniel.

2347
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 12: He can't run like Drake. He can't run like William.

2348
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:50,720
Speaker 12: But he can move.

2349
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,639
Speaker 16: But one thing I said about him, he's more actively

2350
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:54,799
Speaker 16: in than three put together.

2351
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: Okay, from a clean pocket, and.

2352
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 16: He does and he does surveyed field and he does

2353
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 16: read a little bit better. I know that's college pros

2354
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 16: to be a little bit different.

2355
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 12: Understand that.

2356
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 16: But like I said, you know, if we get made

2357
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 16: I still got my bit for nine games, you'd be like,

2358
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 16: what we're gonna give him back at ten? Because what

2359
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 16: the mother guy's telling you is what we thought for

2360
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 16: three years and he had and I can get You

2361
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 16: can name seven games last year and six game last

2362
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 16: year before that that he just you know wasn't there.

2363
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 16: They could have won the game.

2364
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 12: But death on that. But I don't see what's wrong.

2365
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 16: But I ask y'all one question, one hypothetical.

2366
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,599
Speaker 12: Kay, would you trade who chased for.

2367
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 16: A second to Arizona and then they change trade Strange?

2368
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 12: You know, Chase jew done show down?

2369
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 1: Excuse me for who for a second?

2370
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 5: Second?

2371
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 16: Yes, second, because because Arizona want these are these are Russian?

2372
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 12: Sure did a Russian? Okay? And then try to get

2373
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 12: rid of Strange for three.

2374
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 6: He's not perfect.

2375
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 1: You're not going to get a three Strange. You just

2376
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: got a six for Mac Jones a bag of footballs.

2377
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,679
Speaker 5: You might get a second for a team that's close.

2378
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 8: People people viewed Strange in the draft as a fifth

2379
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 8: round pick. He's done nothing to say that that was wrong, though.

2380
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 5: But I like the idea of picking up that second

2381
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 5: because now you can try to fill another need. But

2382
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 5: I think Judnut is also a good player, so I'm

2383
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 5: worried about the pass rush.

2384
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 8: He is a good player, and you do have to

2385
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 8: have some good players. But if someone wanted to give

2386
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 8: me a high second round pick, yeah I have to

2387
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:39,640
Speaker 8: like that.

2388
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 6: Flip that for.

2389
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 18: For it.

2390
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:44,440
Speaker 5: Edgar is in Australia.

2391
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 1: What's up?

2392
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Speaker 5: Edgar? Edgar?

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01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 1: Edgar Edgar tack wide receiver in the top Darius in Maryland?

2394
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 1: What's up?

2395
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 6: Darius?

2396
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 12: It was going on?

2397
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:03,759
Speaker 18: Hey, yes, I had two questions, right, Yeah, everybody seems

2398
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 18: to be on you know, draft provacly behind round two whatever.

2399
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 18: But Ellie Wolf and the package organization obviously was in

2400
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 18: the draft suck. But Davonte Amazon Cup, it.

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01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 5: Was a pretty two, pretty two.

2402
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 8: What about Romeo Dobbs and Christian Watson and Jordy Nelson.

2403
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 8: They drafted them all.

2404
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 1: They literally drafted all their receivers going back to rond

2405
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 1: Wolf like thirty years ago.

2406
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 5: Dad, what's the Packers' it's the grating.

2407
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 8: It's just the packers. Those are those are good draft picks,

2408
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 8: like they were all in. They weren't really like they're

2409
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 8: not top ten picks. They're like Day two packs.

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01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't. They don't draft first round receivers, they

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01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 1: draft them on day two. Yeah, and Jordy Nelson was

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01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 1: a good player. Wolf was probably there then, right.

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01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 5: I mean there was a few years where they were

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01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 5: saying they're not giving Aaron Rodgers enough guys.

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01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: Oh I think that's a valid argument.

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01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's okay.

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01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, Like I would argue that they

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01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 8: did what the Patriots did.

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01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 1: They got the weapons after the guy left, right.

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01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 18: And then the second question would be if Caleb Williams

2421
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 18: is you know what we think he.

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01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 5: Might be, Well, you're gonna have to give up a lot. Yeah,

2423
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to give up. Yeah.

2424
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 1: They just don't have a lot of Yeah, they don't

2425
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 1: have a lot of assets to.

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01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:28,600
Speaker 18: Point nine and you know, yeah, you.

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01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 5: Probably have to give up this year's first, next year's first,

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01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 5: well maybe three first.

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01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 1: You're switching from three to one. Yeah, but it's for

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01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 1: it's for a guy that So what would you have

2431
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 1: to give up to go from three to one for

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01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams.

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01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 5: I'd say at least two first rounds in a second.

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01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably at least. And I don't think they have no, No,

2435
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, but I get your point.

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01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 5: Darius if you think he's that good, then that's worth

2437
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 5: it to first in a in A I.

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01:47:58,439 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 1: Don't know about that.

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01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 8: I like Caleb william I do not consider it like

2440
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 8: Andrew luck like one of these generational kind of guys.

2441
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't look at him that way. I think he's

2442
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:11,640
Speaker 1: he's close. But it's just then you're just gonna have

2443
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, Like, what are you gonna do if you

2444
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 1: traded your entire draft hall for the next three years

2445
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 1: to get them, then where where does that leave you?

2446
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,680
Speaker 5: Well, you could get Like the other thing to think

2447
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 5: about is the business side of it. Because you draft

2448
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams and Kleenex becomes your sponsor.

2449
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 1: It's amazing to me that someone would not pick him

2450
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,720
Speaker 1: because of that. No, no, it's not. It's and it's

2451
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 1: a real thing. I don't I don't think that that's

2452
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 1: it's a real thing. I think it's a real thing

2453
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 1: among pundits. It's not just that I don't think it's

2454
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 1: a real You didn't hear any of that at the

2455
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 1: combine that, Oh god, they don't hear everybody. Everybody's the

2456
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 1: greatest prospect of all. No, no, no, I just mean

2457
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:50,680
Speaker 1: like from teams like you don't hear like, oh, you

2458
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: know that this guy's untouchable because he cried to his mind.

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01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 8: Wolf specifically said he's tough. The top the top three guys.

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01:48:56,880 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 8: We're talking about the quarterbacks in this class, specific Ticuly,

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01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 8: the top three guys are.

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01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 5: Tough and Cale Williams. I mean he has he comports himself.

2463
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 1: Well he does, you know, nice of you to say, friend,

2464
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 1: he does.

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01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:17,679
Speaker 5: Clint from Ottawa, who's listening from Mexico, says, where would

2466
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 5: Daniels have been drafted if he didn't win the Heisman?

2467
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:23,480
Speaker 5: Is he being a bit overdrafted.

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01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 1: If he had the same year and didn't win the Heisman? Yeah?

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01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 1: I think in the top three.

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01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 5: I do too. I still think he'd be up there

2471
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 5: the Heisman. You know, that's not the end all be all.

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01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:37,560
Speaker 8: It's having a Heisman Trophy season. It's not right like

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01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:38,879
Speaker 8: necessarily winning.

2474
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 1: The Heisman's track record has gotten a lot better in

2475
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 1: recent years in terms of NFL player translating like you

2476
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:47,679
Speaker 1: won the Heisman really starting with Lamar.

2477
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 7: But I think the better question is what where would

2478
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 7: have been drafted if he didn't play, Like if he

2479
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 7: just came out after his junior year.

2480
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably a Day two pick. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2481
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: I think he I haven't said earlier. He exploded Yeah

2482
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 1: this year. It's a it's a good question and like

2483
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: something Rice Young went from winning the Heisman to not

2484
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 1: winning the Heisman and was the first overall. Well that's

2485
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 1: what Caleb's gonna do, you know. Yeah, it's It's a

2486
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 1: good conversation though with with guys you're talking about it earlier.

2487
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 1: Just he transfers from Arizona State. It took him a year,

2488
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 1: but then he's with Malik Neighbors, he's with Brian Thomas Junior,

2489
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he wins the Heisman

2490
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 1: Trophy and now he's a top three pick in the draft.

2491
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:30,480
Speaker 1: And at some point it's hard to extrapolate who's responsible

2492
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 1: for what? You know, is it the receivers?

2493
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 17: Is it?

2494
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 1: Is it Daniels?

2495
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 6: Is it both?

2496
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be a tricky part as we move

2497
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:39,599
Speaker 1: forward in the an i l e. Where all these

2498
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 1: guys can just transfer every single year and they're they're

2499
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be like AU or they're just gonna

2500
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 1: start forming these super teams at these schools, and so

2501
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 1: then it's like, all right, well, now he's you know,

2502
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 1: Panics Daniels, Like they're all throwing to like these star

2503
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 1: receivers all over the place. You know, Quinnie Ers in Texas, Like,

2504
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 1: how do you evalue Wait, it's Mac Jones at Alabama

2505
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:04,600
Speaker 1: but with everybody, so like, how do you kind of

2506
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 1: go ahead and and figure out who's actually responsible for

2507
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 1: it all?

2508
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 5: Yep, lots of emails, but I'm gonna take a phone call.

2509
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 5: James is in Houston. What's up, James?

2510
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 15: How are y'all doing today? I'm kind of playoff what

2511
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 15: he just said, to be honest with y'all. See, in college,

2512
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 15: I see a lot of like, let's say, Jade and Daniels.

2513
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 15: Perhaps he had the best receiver room in college last

2514
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 15: year by far. So it's hard to judge how he's

2515
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 15: going to go in the NFL. But I think the

2516
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 15: way to go would be the drafted quarterback that went

2517
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 15: with the most competition this year and Jayde and Daniels

2518
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 15: being in the SEC is the move to me?

2519
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean.

2520
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,560
Speaker 15: I really really think that we should have got to

2521
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:04,759
Speaker 15: receive a free agency because this receiver drive stop it sacked.

2522
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 15: I'm not gonna lie, but it helped the hide instead.

2523
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 5: Of just one. We all agree, we're getting older. We

2524
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 5: all agree. Do we agree they should have or get

2525
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 5: a wide receiver and free agency?

2526
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 12: Oh?

2527
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but now I think it's like

2528
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:24,679
Speaker 1: kind of too late.

2529
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, you haven't really filled a hole yet, you know,

2530
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 5: or at least started to put dirt in that hole?

2531
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 1: Is holding back codys to film.

2532
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 5: I have come to the realization about the evaluation of

2533
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 5: talent and managing expectations. In April of twenty one, the

2534
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:47,640
Speaker 5: Patriots selected a quarterback fifteenth overall. I vividly remember how

2535
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 5: excited I was at the time, simply because we had

2536
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 5: taken a quarterback. Deuce was bubbling with excitement following the pick,

2537
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 5: as was I. Paul Parrilla was I quote, ridiculously bumm

2538
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 5: because we don't have a quarterback. He said that within

2539
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 5: ninety seconds of the selection. I thought he was just

2540
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 5: being grumpy due to the low pepsi DIETPEPSI levels. But

2541
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 5: I have come to realize that when in doubt, listen

2542
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 5: to Perillo. Paul always likes to say, don't tell people

2543
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 5: what you feel or think. Don't tell people what to

2544
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 5: feel or think. But I have decided I will refrain

2545
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:26,600
Speaker 5: from excitement or disappointment when we take a quarterback at

2546
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:30,759
Speaker 5: three until I hear Paul's opinion and Perillo we trust.

2547
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 8: I will say up front the amendment to that would

2548
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:38,240
Speaker 8: be I like to hear from people before and I have.

2549
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna you know, you guys know me.

2550
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 8: I'm a little psychotic. I remember what people think, and

2551
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 8: I know what people think now, and I know this.

2552
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 5: Life is just one big grudge.

2553
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 6: This will change.

2554
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 8: It's not a grudge because there's a million draft picks

2555
01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 8: that I've been one hundred percent wrong about Richard's smour

2556
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 8: being at the top of that list.

2557
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 1: So this is not about me being free years ago. No,

2558
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 1: it's not about me being right, is my point.

2559
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 8: My point is I don't change my thoughts once the

2560
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 8: guy becomes the team that I want him to become on.

2561
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 8: Like Drake May, I've gotten the litany of people calling

2562
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 8: me telling me how bad he is. I want you

2563
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 8: people to tell me how bad he is on May fifteenth,

2564
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 8: when he's been a patriot for two weeks. I don't

2565
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 8: think I'll hear from many of you other than Eldred,

2566
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 8: who will go down with that ship.

2567
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 1: I respect that.

2568
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 8: And then if he's good, elgib will also call in

2569
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 8: and say I was wrong. He's much better than I

2570
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 8: thought he was. But a lot of people want no

2571
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 8: part of Drake May today. That will change if they

2572
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 8: picked Drake May. I will guarantee it.

2573
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm guilty of it myself. That you know, especially early

2574
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 1: on when I first started covering the team, it's Bill

2575
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 1: Belichick making the pick. So when they drafted Nick kill Harry,

2576
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 1: I didn't really like Nick kill Harry coming into the draft,

2577
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 1: but Bill liked them, so I was like, all right,

2578
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they see something that I don't enough,

2579
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 1: and then you know that ends up going the wrong way.

2580
01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 1: Cole Strange is the only one that I've stuck by

2581
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 1: my guns. He took the question out of my mouth. Yeah,

2582
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 1: because that's the only one and I have done that.

2583
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 5: Oh he's terrible. He's just not worth what they picked him.

2584
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 8: A well, I don't He'd be fine as a fifth

2585
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 8: round pick, but I like Nikhil Harry's one.

2586
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 1: I didn't like the Nikhil Harry.

2587
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 8: Pick when they made it, and I kind of got

2588
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 8: evand I was like, Bill doesn't take wide receivers in

2589
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 8: the first round. I talked myself into it because if

2590
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 8: Bill was high on him, it was like, yeah, so

2591
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 8: I'm not telling you I've never been guilty of that too.

2592
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 5: But when you don't like anything, Paul's.

2593
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 8: No, but I've been wrong about more guys than I

2594
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 8: liked that turned out to be like Vernon Colston for

2595
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 8: the Jets, Remember him. I thought this guy was going

2596
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 8: to be great, he wasn't. Like, there's more guys that

2597
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 8: I think are going to be good that turn out

2598
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:58,840
Speaker 8: to be not so good. Then the other way around.

2599
01:55:58,840 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 1: It's definitely true.

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01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 5: All right, that's going to be it for this edition

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Speaker 5: of Patriots Unfiltered. Thanks for listening this week to everything

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Speaker 5: that we do. Draft podcast Cast twenty two Patriots Unfiltered

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Speaker 5: or tomorrow? So tomorrow you can watch our wrap up

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Speaker 5: of episodes nine and ten.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, yeah, we didn't get you in this one,

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Speaker 1: and then a song.

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Speaker 5: I can tell you that once we do that, we

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Speaker 5: have a special wrap up of the wrap up where

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Speaker 5: we sat down for a lengthy interview with Matt Hammacheck,

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Speaker 5: the director, and Jeff Benedict, who wrote the book. So

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Speaker 5: that'll be coming up next week. All right, have a

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Speaker 5: good weekend everyone.

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Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, please rate

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Speaker 1: and review us. Listener comments and ratings help keep us

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Speaker 1: high in the podcast rankings so new listeners can find us.

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