WEBVTT - The Delightful Deviant Behind "The Human Centipede" 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.960 This is Alec Baldwin and you were listening to Here's 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:11.600 the Thing. The Human Centipede, the only movie Roger Ebert 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:16.040 ever refused to give a star rating too it is 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.840 what it is. He concluded. It was the talk of 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.800 the festival circuit in two thousand nine, the talk at dinner, 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:29.440 not panel discussions. It was too cruel, too cracked. High 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:33.640 school boys were emailing each other gross out clips. Many 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.720 reviewers wouldn't even recount the premise I will so feel 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:43.400 free to skip ahead about one minute. The movie, the 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.640 first of a trilogy, starts with the familiar horror trope 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.319 of two pretty young women getting a flat tire at 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:56.680 night in the rain in the woods. I think we're 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.760 supposed to turn. I thought you know exactly where we were? 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:09.040 What was that? They end up in the home of 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:17.679 a demented surgeon. Then the familiar tropes end because Dr Hyder, 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:23.560 once a get this respected separator of Siamese Twins, has 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.800 a late career goal. It's to kidnap three people, sever 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:32.000 their knees and so their bodies together mouth to anus, 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:38.959 creating one long digestive system. It's a bleak movie, terrifying 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:44.320 and bloody, Deeter Laser's suave doctor Hyder is mangel alike 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:48.320 in his dispassionate cruelty, and the victims play their roles 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:52.000 with no wink or nod to break the tension, but 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.320 shock wears off. The movie that Roger Ebert refused to 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.840 review is now firmly a part of the American popular culture. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.080 We have a long treasured tradition here on our show, 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:09.600 which celebrates the Festival of Lights. It's time once again 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:14.639 for our annual lighting of the human centipede Menorah humans. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:23.440 The originator of the human centipede is improbably a charming 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:28.400 panama hat wearing young Dutchman named Tom six. He had 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.320 just arrived from Amsterdam and brought with him his longtime 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:36.600 business partner who's also his sister. We think, how do 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:41.160 you pronounce your first time again? Ilona? Okay, So we've 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:45.880 all met before. Because I was in the unique club 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:50.080 of people who watched your magnum Opus and was just 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.840 knocked out. I thought, my god, I've got to meet 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.280 the guy that made this movie. And you were so cheery, 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.480 you were like it. We was so kind of animated 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.040 and boyish in a way I was prepared for. You 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.360 were like Ronnie Howard, Hello Alec, I am Tom and 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.760 this is my sister Elona, and she was like hello Alec. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.760 There was no black clothes and like spider webs in 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.400 the corner. The dangerous thing right You said to me 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.280 and said we are going to redefine evil? He said exactly, 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.359 And I got a chill. I thought, Man, if anybody's 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.960 going to redefined evil, it's you. What is horror to 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.919 you in film? In filmmaking to me is when you're 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.000 in a situation, you're attached to a to an asshole, 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.799 You're in a situation where you can't leave, and it's 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.600 worse than death. You want to die but you can't. Absolutely, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:42.160 where did you first get the idea? It's very simple, 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.080 wasn't your idea? Yeah? Definitely. I was watching television and 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.320 there was a child molester on and he did the 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.880 most terrible things to two children and he got a 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.920 very low sentence because of a mistake they made. And 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.480 I was angry, and I said, day suit, stitch his 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.760 mouth to the anus of a fat truck on me, 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.640 because that would be a great bunch something good. Out 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.880 of a desire for justice absolutely emerged, this twisted idea 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.560 of your film. Absolutely, you said this man should have 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:15.920 his mouth sown to the of the famous trunk driver, 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.280 on his hands and knees because death would be in 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.479 sever his knee, like absolute, we can't run away. Absolutely, 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.920 And then I immediately my then girlfriend I put it 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.400 on their hands and knees and I took a picture 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:32.279 and then I photoshopped her behind each other. And I 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.520 thought that a great idea for a movie. This looks amazing, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.520 But at the same time, it's so incredibly horrifying the 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.920 idea that you have to without saying, well, I wouldn't 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.040 say swallow. You're part of a chance of a digestive 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.960 chain that happened. It's hideous. But in your movie, uh, 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.200 this is not an act of justice. We're not taking 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.880 the child molester. I did it show him right your 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.280 first film. There was no justice there, and I thought 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.360 I need one of those old villains as as the 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.960 finger stign doctor almost created like a Peter Yeah, definitely. 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.839 And can you imagine he did over seventy films and 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.520 the guy was never cast as a horror villain never 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.679 never what did he play? Oh? Good, guys, it's great. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.080 I'm sorry. I'm really going to struggle to keep a 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.240 straight face with you. I can't believe a funny meeting 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:22.360 you to roll our conversations. But so before you made 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:26.320 this movie, before you saw this horrible child lester who 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.320 was not meeted out a proper sentence for as your concern, 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.960 what was your childhood look in terms of film going. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.159 I already loved horror films. I went to the video 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.720 stores and I my parents let me rent all those 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:41.719 horrible were your favorite films? Could Joe from Stephen King, 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:46.520 all those zombie films? Everything? I swallowed it up, and 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.400 I have this really big imagination. So when I was 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.559 a little kid, I said, I want to be about 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.680 to make films when I grow up. You did, Yeah, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.640 definitely make films. A little camera When you said my 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:01.400 grandfather he came was the first film you mad? It 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.800 was a horror film, an alien caming out of a 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.720 guy's stomach. Had you seen the movie? Yeah, you're just 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:10.960 kind of taking that. You're riffing on playing with her character. Definitely, 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.599 so you had did you what kind of described to 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:15.400 us if you can in the most simple terms, But 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.200 how the other those effects work? Did you have like 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.479 a a mannequin that you had I I built those 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.520 puppets and the guy with a hand in it coming out. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.960 I built his body and all, of course in a 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.919 simple way, but it already works. So what did he 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:30.560 do for a living in? How did he die? What 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.320 was the setting? Was it a space station something or 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:38.240 something like that. I built my room into this giant student. Yeah, 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.039 very low but no, but very a little small guy 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.880 at twelve or twelve yeah, yeah, yeah, but no tour 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.760 that is already maybe. And then where do you go 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.799 to college? I went to, uh, the New York Film Academy. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.080 Strangely enough, I did a course here and you came here? Yeah, 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.080 I came here? How old? Eighteen? And I just want 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.520 did your parents something like kids always want to make films? 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.480 Let's send him to New York because here I still 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.400 remember there were guys from the film industry talking about 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.120 film and making film and it got me so in enthusiastic. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.400 And then it was only two months and then I 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.760 got back to Holland and I was hired as a 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:19.400 television director for the first Big Brother show in Holland, 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.480 and I turned out I was very good at it. 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.080 So that was the first Big Brother in the world. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.000 So then John them all, the big owner of a 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.480 Big Brother. He thought, yeah, you're one of our best directors, 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.640 so he sent me here. You tell American directors taking 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.960 the Big Brother program obviously, which they do quite often. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.520 They do with Saturday Night Live. They do all those 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.560 types of programs and they bring them to other countries 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.040 and set them up in that country. So I was 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.440 going well in television, but I always wanted to make films. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.760 So then I my sister, who was in law school, 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.360 she quit god and then we started the six Entertainment 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.880 Company and we made three films in Holland Dutch language films. Now. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.360 One is the Two Women are Trapped in the Department Store. Yes, yes, absolutely, 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.560 films like Honey's. It's like Honey, Yeah, children's movie for 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.120 a little so it's Sweden innocent, okay. So so that's 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.280 the first film. The second film, the first one was 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.120 in the gay disco Amsterdam. In that time, I had 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.560 a very famous gay scene all over the world, and 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.280 I had a couple of friends who were gazed, and 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:26.400 they told me those horrendous stories about pill popping and 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.760 all the things you do in Amsterdam. But when you're paid, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:33.160 popper's wild. So I made a film about that, and 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.560 then I moved on to Honey's and then I went 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.439 on to make I Love Drees and it's very cool. 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.400 It's about a famous Dutch singer. He plays himself and 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:45.400 he's abducted by two very fat people who live in 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:49.960 a trailer park. And the woman is his biggest fan. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:54.600 She doors the singer, so they abducted him like misery. Absolutely, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.559 but it gets worse. She wants to have his baby, 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.120 so he had natural Yeah, he has to stay in 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.200 the trailer until she becomes pregnant. So the husband just 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.080 isn't capable of of of reproducer. Absolutely, so you have 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.040 to bring in a stud sort of speed. Definitely, And 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.839 this famous he's a famous musician. Seeing in real life 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.160 is a real sense. He's a handsome guy. Yeah, there's 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:17.400 a good looking guy. Yes, what is his name? Roofings? Roofing. Yes. 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.240 At the time he made the movie, how old was seeing? 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.240 He was about forty I think, so he's still a 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.160 little bit of tread on the tire. He wasn't completely 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.160 out of the business. He was still young enough to 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.120 have delight his fans. How do you get him to 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.160 come and do the movie where he has to sire 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.640 the child with the more beast woman. He thought it 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.640 was for a candid camera show. This is not real, 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.280 and I said, no, it's real. And he had to 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.120 think about it for one day. What was it about him? 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:44.680 He thought he was game? He had exactly that guy's Yeah, 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.480 how do you call it? He thinks he's a stud. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:50.200 He does all the training and he he spit absolutely. Yeah, 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.880 So I thought this was extra horrible if he has 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.480 to make love to this and and do you see 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.160 scenes where they're making love? Definitely? Oh my god, definitely. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.959 How long didn't take to shoot that movie? Three weeks? 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.839 Three weeks? You're shooting that movie? And how do you 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:06.680 get the money for the film? Like when you're walking 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.920 into rooms and we're going to get to this, especially 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:13.000 with the Centipede series, Um, how do you get people 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.320 to give you money? And then when you get to 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.040 the distribution part, what do you say to them? Well, 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.520 Ilona as a genius aid bring in money. So she 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.439 rings the whole We have this famous magazine in Holland 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.360 which called the Quotes, and all the rich people are 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.400 in there. So she just goes through the cellphone. Nine 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.040 of the ten people, they say you're an idiot funk off. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.720 But like one, there's one people that say no, but 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.199 there's one who just can't say no to Elona. Absolutely. 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.360 Then I tell the story and they are home and 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.280 they want to be in the film business. Was the 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.559 film successful, Yeah, on a on a Dutch scale, it's 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:48.280 a very small Does the film make money, yes, but 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.439 not like you're I don't. I don't. I don't expect 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.600 that because that's I mean, you and I both know 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:57.800 that's you know, mission impossible. It's money, but the unless 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.800 you are a mission impossible. But the um the investors 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.440 got their money back. So you did the first two? 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.880 So was the third the third one? Yes? Right, so 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.479 you did. The first one was called gay in Amsterdam, 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.920 Gay Amsterdam. You don't really wander too much from the theme. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.560 It's Gay in Amsterdam, honeyes honeys, which is loaded with 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:20.079 double long tongue, and then uh, and then I love 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:26.880 which one performed the best at the box? Yeah? Pretty much? 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.040 Say they made money. Yeah, but I like the third one. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.000 I love the absolutely the best. That's your favor. That's 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.120 the black humor. It's dark, it's it's getting my way. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.280 What were some of the difficulties for you in handling 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.319 the cast and what you're getting people to do. These 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:44.319 very compromising very I mean, it's one thing to say 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.560 that someone's going to do a sex scene with a 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.240 morbidly obest woman and you're kind of sending up that 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:53.480 as horror. But the actress who was hired to play 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.640 that part, did you have to be like overly sensitive 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.800 to how she was treated and how she felt. You 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.880 have to be charming always to actors and new situations 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.240 like that, and you are charming. Let's thank you. And yeah, 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.319 the lady I told her how, yeah, how the scene 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.560 was going to be, and she she trusted me so much, 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.200 so she said, let's do it. I don't have any 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.400 fear or whatever. Let's do it. And and the guy 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.920 was a little bit hesitate, but I said, commandreies, you 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.760 have to do this. Your fans. They're not really having 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.200 not really but looks very, looks very. I'm gonna go 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.360 home and watch it tonight after my wife falls asleep. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.760 That's musically what I call a midnight showing in my house. Okay, 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:31.840 but it's just it's just such a delight to finally 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.400 meet when you come back to New York again. We're 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.719 here for very briefly. Yeah, fly back tomorrow. But when 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.560 you come back again as soon as possible, we need 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:40.920 to talk about a movie. We need to do a 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.439 movie together. Let's do that. So the movies make money, 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.400 and you reward your investors. They get some kind of uh, 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.320 you pay them, they make some kind of a profit. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:56.040 So after um gay in Amsterdam, honeys and I love Drees, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.800 what's the next movie? The first human centipede? Right, the 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.439 first human cent and you get the idea from the 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.960 guy who gets the low And where did you do 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.079 your casting for the film here in New York? Because 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.520 I wanted to have the lead actresses, the two girls 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.920 who undergo the procedure. Elone and I went here to 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.800 New York and we had like like fifty or sixty 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.720 women coming in. Oh, young, young, attracted girls. And I 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.360 told them the premise and showed them the drawings I made, 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.679 and Night out of ten said your European crazy. They 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.079 were angry at me. They didn't know what it was 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.199 about when they came in. No, you kept it under round, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.160 absolutely right, I said, the European horror film. You said, 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:34.880 come in, let me explain it to you for absolutely, 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.720 because anything managers if you do it on the email 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.200 and you explain it, they won't come. They won't come 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.440 to the auditions. So the smart sponts they stayed. They 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.360 wanted to hear more. And then you put them on 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.160 their hands and knees and a lot of them leave. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:54.199 They think that's the next round round. Then then how 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.040 many remained on their knees and said, okay, let's go fro, 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:01.120 Like like five left and we chose two in the end. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:06.200 Two were absolutely troops. You have to be right. So yeah, 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.560 so they're artists, they're committed to can you imagine, right? 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.080 So they just wanted to work with Deeter, you know, 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:12.920 once you show them deaters real they were like, I 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.560 want to be in a movie with. So now, both 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.120 these women are very pretty and very fit and very 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.280 kind of sexy young ladies in in the business. And 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.880 so when you're shooting the film, what's the first day 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:27.840 of shooting? Do you could do ease them into it 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.120 or do you throw them right into the icy cold water. No, 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.960 we slowly started with the car in the forest and 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.680 stuff and them getting the flat tire going through the house. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.960 So we slowly build up for them. Yeah, yeah, because 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.560 it's it was too much. You can imagine. They had 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.800 really really definitely, and we gave them massages when they're 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.480 on their hands and knees, and we we really treated 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.600 them really well. What exactly did you have to do 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.880 hygiene wise to make everybody comfortable about sticking their face 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.040 and the butt of the person. Yeah, they're a little 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.400 afraid they didn't fart or something. You have to be 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.040 very careful with that you eat. Yeah, they have there's 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.760 very thin latex between their mouths and the butts, so 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.480 it's there's something in between, of course, but it's close. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.040 It's yeah, it's minimals. Yeah, it's minimal, because otherwise it 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.600 would look fake. Yeah, So they showered very well, and 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.840 they and then they would do these things and they 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.640 were on their hands and knees in the formation of 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.600 the human centipede for how many hours a day? Would 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.280 you say? Not very long. It's like we shoot like 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.480 ten minutes and then they break, take a break, take 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.840 a break, and then we put them back again. How 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.640 many days were they in the centipede mode? Almost four 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.720 weeks on their hands and knees in the centipede. No, 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.960 that's three weeks. I think three weeks of that sounds 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.360 like hell yeah, it's three days would be more than 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.520 I could bear it. When we do are moving together, 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.960 no more than three days of centipede type of not 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.320 going to happen. So when the time comes to distribute 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:59.080 the film, yes, you get minimal distribution. Correct. I have 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.320 seen it's a by the Ye know who was the 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.640 executive dealt with it? I have? I have it? Is 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:10.840 Jonathan Sei. Yeah, Jonathan Yeah, wonderful filmmaker, film executive, brave 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.880 guys like you. He loved he got it. Absolutely. It 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.440 was rageous and entertaining. What happened. We showed the first 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.880 center Pete at the Fright Fest and in London, Yeah, 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.680 and it exploded there really all the people who started 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.080 talking about it. And then Fantastic Fest in America they 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.800 call There's in Austin, Texas and they played it there 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.880 and there it exploded again. And then Jonathan came to us, 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.800 I have to have that film. I have absolutely. Yeah. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.680 And you made some money, Yeah it made money? Yeah, definitely. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.040 You you you distribute the movie and the movie played 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.640 in theaters for how long and in what parts of 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.720 the world because it was banned in many places. In 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.040 Germany it is banned in in England it's It's got 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.880 and stuff. A lot lot of banned in Germany. Yeah yeah, 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.240 definitely Foreters Family that they didn't have to be put 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.000 through that, you know. And New Zealand Part two is banned. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.600 So there's a lot of banning going around. But where 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.920 did the film do well? Where where's the audience? America 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.320 and a lot of Tom's six movies in England, America 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.160 and Japan Japan is really they crave a good, nasty, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.439 definitely horror movie, and they react very differently when they 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:22.600 see the film. They cheer, They are so happy they cheering. 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.679 Yeah yeah, and they immediately went on their hands and 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.679 knees and they wanted me to be play Deeter and 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.800 Crazy and I love it. They do these like tributes 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.879 Rocky Horror. Oh yeah, they do. They get to they 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.479 form humans sent to be chains outside the theater and 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:42.639 here here as well. In Americans, how David's pate he 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.960 made his Halloween costume with Sarah Silverman in the back. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.760 I believe I saw pictures of that coming along in America. 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.960 It's pretty It's on the Conan O'Brien show. I saw 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.720 it now, Um, the movie is distributed. What year The 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.360 Humans Sent come out? In two thousand ten? It came out, 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.320 not that long ago, two centen It comes out and 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.879 you get these scathing reviews and people say you're insane, 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.560 lots of that. Did you really oh yeah, yeah, lots 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.560 of that. Did you need to like beefed up security 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.159 in your life? With part two? When we had the 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.760 premiere in America, we had a guy that's because we 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.560 got pictures of guys with guns and they say, you're 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:24.680 worse than Satan. We're gonna share Humans in Part two 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.359 in America? Where was that? Austin, Texas? Austin, Yes, that 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.520 was a big event. Pretty cool. What was the theatrical 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.480 run to run for a few weeks? A few weeks? 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.320 Definitely go on your streaming online. Where did you make 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.679 most of you? Just so people understand how when a 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.480 movie like this, which is very potent and very ugly, 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.199 when torture porn, as you know, is that it's been 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.320 used to describe a lot of your work. And I 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.159 want to get to that in a second. When the 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.159 movie is is get such a strong reaction, I'm assuming 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.560 it's in and out of the theater relatively quickly. Yeah, definitely, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.200 And you're online and yeah, po d that works the best. 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.639 And is that where you made your money? Yes, and 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:02.199 the movie was a success. I nancial definitely decided to 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:06.120 do the second one. Yes, the second one. Let's just say, 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.359 I think it's a masterpiece. It's a work of art 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.960 because it's just this idea that I've never in my life. 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:12.840 I mean, I'm sitting there going, oh God, no, I 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.480 mean we're watching the opening scenes. A man who works 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:20.000 in a parking garage, who is a lonely, miserable, misshapen, 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:25.359 kind of cloven hooved man is there watching your original 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.600 film on his computer and getting the idea that he's 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:32.080 going to recreate the movie. So in the movie part two, 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.200 you summon back the actresses. Which of the two actresses 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.840 was the one that came back? Jenny? She came back 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.080 because he calls her and says, we're gonna go another round. 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.280 We're gonna do the sequel. What was the phone call 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:46.680 like for you to call Ashland to come back for round? 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:48.840 It was it easy at those very easy. I skype 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.320 with her and she was so overwhelmed with the success 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.639 of part one. She yeah, she got. Yeah, she was 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:59.000 a star in her in the horror Yeah, definitely. So 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.600 I said, actually we have to part two. And then 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.600 I told her what it was about, and she had 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.479 to swallow a few times because it's way worse than 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.600 in part one. There's really a picnic in the park 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.840 part one. But she's such a trooper she said let's 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.120 do it, and she never complained. And if you see 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:19.480 what happens to her in the film, yeah stuff. Who's 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.440 the actress the kind of crow like woman that plays 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:26.240 Martin's mother, Vivian Britton, that's in a Vivian Britain is 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:30.479 the actress Brita Britton, a British actress, And I love her, 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.760 very old lady but wonderful because when he gets out 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:36.240 of the bed and his belly sticking out like a 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:41.200 globe and he's in his bed as moldy bed, yeah, 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.240 and the mother's like, you know, uh, you wonder what's 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:46.480 kept the mother from like just poisoning him or just 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.360 shooting him in his sleep and getting rid of him. 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.439 It's all so sad, you know what I mean? Who's 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:56.280 your production designer? Who who creates the tableau that is 0:20:56.400 --> 0:21:03.520 Martin's bedroom? I do that myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:08.359 Martin would live. Yeah, definitely. We go out for a 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:10.720 location hunting and I think this is the place and 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:15.720 it's a basement apart. Definitely. Yeah, I'm shitty dread and yeah, 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:19.720 yeah I love that. Yeah, he's popping pimples and it's 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.719 all over the bed too, every kind of body fluid 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.520 is oozed into the sheets. Yeah. I like your mind. Yeah, 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:27.280 you know, it's just you can si see. It's all there. 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:28.920 You know. That's the thing with your movies, is it's 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.040 all there. You know. Theater's apartment is very neat and gleaming. 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:35.320 It's not the castle but like wet stones, and it's 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:39.240 like this very gleaming modern edifice, I mean and hum 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.080 And when you go down to the laboratory, it's very 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:44.520