WEBVTT - Josh and Chuck's Christmas Extravaganza 2012

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you Stuff you Should Know Fromhoustuffworks dot com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, this is just me talking. If

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I watched one on the Hindenburg last night.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>It just one of their one offs.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you're saying Hindenburg And what was the other one?

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<v Speaker 1>The nuclear bomb that is off the coast of Savannah.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a show in that that's right anyway, fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>We're very happy to be on Science and help support

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<v Speaker 1>It's January nineteenth at ten pm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and if people want to hang out with us

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<v Speaker 2>in person, they can come to Brooklyn and do it

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<v Speaker 2>on January eighth, Tuesday at the Bellhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's right. We are throwing a premiere party slash

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<v Speaker 1>variety show for the TV show, featuring performances by people

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<v Speaker 1>like John Hodgman, people like Lucy Waynwright other special guests. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy's in the show other special guests. There are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be some other special guests, not performing, just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>milling about.

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<v Speaker 2>In the crowd, hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>And this all goes down at the Bellhouse in Guanas, Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 1>January eighth. You actually have to buy tickets for this one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to cover costs on this one. Everything else

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<v Speaker 1>has always been free, so we'll get mad at it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And plus I should tell you like, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a big show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's only ten bucks though, so buy your

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<v Speaker 1>tickets at the Bellhouse ny dot com and doors are

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<v Speaker 1>at seven thirty. Showtime is at eight, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bellhouse that is in Guanas, Brooklyn, specifically seventh Street.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice. Okay, so we're done. It's time Chuck, finally for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yay, It's Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's

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<v Speaker 2>Charles W. Chuck Bryant. And where's a couple of little

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<v Speaker 2>elves ready to do this thing? How do you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>And do you have some glad tidenings around you?

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<v Speaker 1>We're not naked elves, which that is foretelling from later

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<v Speaker 1>on in the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a bespectacled elf.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got glasses at forty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the aging hipster thing is now full fully formed.

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<v Speaker 2>As it is a velvet jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. They're just for reading in computer stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, and to look cool with because you look cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But I can't walk around to them, well, because

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<v Speaker 1>they're for reading. It's like, you know, i'd mess up

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<v Speaker 1>my eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I thought you meant like you physically can't, like

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<v Speaker 2>you can't chew gum and walk at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I am having to get used to it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you need to put those on a little chain

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<v Speaker 2>to dangle around your Yeah, you can like look at

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<v Speaker 2>a bill like yeah, like an older it's kosher.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it must be Christmas because it's ninety degrees in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio, right, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Warm about seventy five degrees outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the building doesn't know that. No, the building

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<v Speaker 1>thinks it's wintertime. Right, So I'm sweating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I am too, So don't feel bad. Good, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little gamy here in our Christmas studio. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is Christmas time, that's right. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>we do have glad tidings.

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<v Speaker 1>Of great joy, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't have anything more to say before

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<v Speaker 2>we get to.

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<v Speaker 1>This to you, let's just kick it off.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited im too.

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<v Speaker 3>It is after all, this gets me in the mood

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas time, Chuck josh As.

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<v Speaker 2>This is our Christmas extravag cans. There's lots of celebratory stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's also a lot of really good solid information.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Specifically like if you it being Christmas Day and all

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<v Speaker 2>haven't selected a Chris yet, Yeah, we have. We have

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<v Speaker 2>some tips on how to select one and how to

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<v Speaker 2>care for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, all kinds of Christmas tree stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So with Christmas trees, the vast majority of Christmas trees

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<v Speaker 2>sold in the US, yeah, are real trees. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is actually like a huge, huge industry, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, We've got thirty to thirty five million Christmas trees

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<v Speaker 1>produced a year, and that's worldwide, but about twenty million

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<v Speaker 1>or so of those are produced here in the US, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also in the United States. The National Christmas Tree

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<v Speaker 2>Association that is a thing, says that the industry supports

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one thousand growers and employs more than one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people. Those are job creators.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a crop. Yeah, and that's the way. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into whether or not it's green to have

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<v Speaker 1>an artificial tree or a real tree. But here's a hint.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a crop, and that's maybe how you should think

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<v Speaker 1>of about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. It is about a million acres of land are

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<v Speaker 2>set aside to grow Christmas trees in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, That is correct? And my stats say Oregon leads

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<v Speaker 1>the United States by a long shot in producing trees

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<v Speaker 1>about six point eight million in two thousand and seven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina about three, and then Michigan at one point five,

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania one point two, and it just goes down from there.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently Michigan and Pennsylvania it's like they're they're dropping,

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<v Speaker 1>are there thirty percent down?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, every state in the Union except for Alaska has

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<v Speaker 2>a Christmas tree farm on it somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not Alaska is every cold? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think that southern Alaska would be able to

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<v Speaker 2>grow them. Too cold, they're just too too hardy to

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<v Speaker 2>pay for a Christmas tree. They're like, we'll just go

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<v Speaker 2>get our own.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're Alaskans. So while there's what how many how many

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<v Speaker 2>did you say we're going to be sold in the

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<v Speaker 2>US every year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about twenty million million in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's still four hundred million growing in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it takes about six to seven years for a

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<v Speaker 2>tree to mature to a five to six foot harvestable height.

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<v Speaker 2>How long six to seven years? I understand. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>during that time you're going to have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>shearing going on, which is very important. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what gives it the shape or is it

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<v Speaker 1>already sort of shape like that?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's already kind of shaped like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>then to convert it from that wild Christmas tree that

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<v Speaker 2>never quite does the trick to the hallmark card Christmas tree.

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<v Speaker 2>The people who grow these, the fine Christmas tree farmers,

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<v Speaker 2>shear them on a pretty regular basis, and they cut

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<v Speaker 2>off the lateral branches that go out. Then they'll cut

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<v Speaker 2>off the top too, depending on how pointy they want it,

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<v Speaker 2>how wide they want it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get a real one still?

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<v Speaker 2>No? We have an artificial one do Yeah. It's very nice, good,

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<v Speaker 2>just drenched in ornaments.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not when it was pre ornate or ornated. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pre lit, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, we know we collect our own very special ornament.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, sure, because that's what normal people in society do, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't know that they made them pre decorated

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<v Speaker 1>as well for the madmen do there. Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it said in this article. You can get one fully

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<v Speaker 1>decorated that you just see.

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<v Speaker 2>You've just put your Christmas tree up, and then start

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<v Speaker 2>eating your hungry man dinner and then cry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>And then bury another body in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's what that's for. Uh So where did

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas trees come from? Right? I mean this seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty recent phenomenon, the idea of going to a

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas tree lot and buying it. It's actually way older.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Apparently, like many things Christmas did, is German and tradition,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe as early as a d. Seven hundred they

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<v Speaker 1>started cutting down trees and putting them in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I've always heard the story that it was Martin

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<v Speaker 2>Luther who was the first to actually decorate them, though,

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<v Speaker 2>oh really with candles, which is a fire has but

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<v Speaker 2>that's a long tradition with Christmas trees too.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the first and last to decorate with candles,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, you know, like all things German, it

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<v Speaker 1>spread to England, which spread to America and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we eat sauerkrop today.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And again, you would think that up until maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the fifties or something, when the cities were really starting

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<v Speaker 2>to boom. Well, no, I guess that's when the suburbs

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<v Speaker 2>started to boom, that people went out in their backyards

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<v Speaker 2>and cut down trees. Right. But apparently there have been

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<v Speaker 2>commercial Christmas tree lots in the United States since the

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<v Speaker 2>mid nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that really surprised me. Yeah, I figured for sure

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<v Speaker 1>that people in the eighteen hundreds would just take the

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<v Speaker 1>axe out and cut one down in their own backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, that's a logical thing to think, but no, apparently

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<v Speaker 2>we've always relied on guys from that movie A Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>Story to sell us.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeez. I saw a lot the other day in New

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<v Speaker 1>York that was just like on a sidewalk. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously space is at a premium there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there are lots, like empty parking lots where they

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<v Speaker 1>do this, but it's not like the suburbs. It was

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<v Speaker 1>literally just on a sidewalk. Some dude had set up

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<v Speaker 1>his little farm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why not, It's an American tradition. So you've got

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<v Speaker 2>the you've got your your Christmas tree, have it all selected.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, I like the plump, short one, so I

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<v Speaker 2>know that they shear the top off several times in

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<v Speaker 2>addition to the lateral branch. Yeah, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>bring it home. But I don't know what to do

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<v Speaker 2>with this thing. We're going to tell you because it's

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<v Speaker 2>very much like cut flowers. It's a plant that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dying, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That you can keep on life support for a little

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<v Speaker 2>while by feeding it water.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and you should these days, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>the little trunk a little inch or so cut off

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<v Speaker 1>of the bottom of the trunk, yeah, by your Christmas tree,

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<v Speaker 1>dude or dudet probably, but if not, you should do

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<v Speaker 1>that yourself because a fresh cut is what you want

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<v Speaker 1>down there. And I guess the reason is it drinks

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<v Speaker 1>up the water more readily.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, it's the same thing as bringing home flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>When you get flowers, you want to cut them again

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<v Speaker 2>before you put them in the water stems. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's actually a rule of thumb for how much water

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<v Speaker 2>you want to give a Christmas tree, basically a live

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<v Speaker 2>tree or fresh cut tree as you call them, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>can drink up to a gallon of water a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am remiss every year. It's it's here's how

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<v Speaker 1>it goes in my house. Oh crap, I haven't checked

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<v Speaker 1>the water in like three days, and I'm going stick

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<v Speaker 1>my finger in there and its dry as a bone. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and the needles'll fall off of my hair. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I pour water in it and the tree just

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<v Speaker 1>looks at me like, thanks, jerk.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, apparently there's a there's a way to handle this, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you get a Christmas tree stand that holds I

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<v Speaker 2>think you want probably up to a gallon what with

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<v Speaker 2>the tree in it? Sure, because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>will say, oh, it holds a gallon. Well, if you

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<v Speaker 2>put a four inch diameter Christmas tree trunk into that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to hold less than a gallon.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it's gonna spill out on your floor.

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<v Speaker 2>And you need to give your tree a court or

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<v Speaker 2>a leater of water, depending on where you live in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, for every inch of diameter of the trunk. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have a four inch diameter Christmas tree trunk,

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<v Speaker 2>which is pretty substantial, sure, you want to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that your tree holder can hold a gallon of water.

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<v Speaker 2>And you want to add a gallon of water every day. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to have heard some sort of like syrup

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<v Speaker 1>or sweetener or something helps, but I'm not sure about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Really. Yeah, I've heard that, but I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we'll find out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I should have looked it up. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it just hit me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've not heard that one. Really. That's good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But like maybe it's just like a tree for the

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<v Speaker 2>for the tree. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's some sat back. So if you if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like keeping up with live Christmas tree, you

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<v Speaker 2>can always of course go the artificial route. And those

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<v Speaker 2>are actually also older than I realized.

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<v Speaker 1>Boo boo artificial trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm telling you, your artificial tree is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it smell like?

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<v Speaker 2>It smells like heaven, it smells like love?

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<v Speaker 1>Or does it smell like PDC made in Asia?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean I know what should mean. But we

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<v Speaker 2>have like a cinnamon and cinnamon broom behind it takes

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<v Speaker 2>care of everything. Does your tree smell like cinnamon? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it does.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it smells like a tree, a lovely fir tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm anti artificial. But I get it. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people don't like the fuss of going out and getting one,

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<v Speaker 1>or cleaning up needles or whatever your reason is.

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<v Speaker 2>So chuck. Apparently people have wanted to get around that

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<v Speaker 2>fuss for many, many years. Apparently again in the nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 2>artificial trees were around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like it sort of mirrored the Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>tree lot. Yeah, you know, around the same time, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess yea. And they were originally you know, made to

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<v Speaker 1>look like real trees, many which still are. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties it got a little crazy, and we

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<v Speaker 1>actually have one of these trees from the nineteen fifties.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't put it up, yeah, I put it up

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<v Speaker 2>in you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, it's small. So we have one in the sun room.

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<v Speaker 2>So you selectively pooh pooh artificial trees.

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<v Speaker 1>I selectively pooh whoo using an artificial tree in lieu

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<v Speaker 1>of a real tree. So we have our little fifties

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<v Speaker 1>retro with a color wheel the fire hazard tree in

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<v Speaker 1>one room.

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<v Speaker 2>What color is it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's silver?

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<v Speaker 2>Nice? Yeah, do you have like the bright colored ornaments

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<v Speaker 2>on it and everything?

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<v Speaker 1>We just do like, uh, I think we just do

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<v Speaker 1>like one kind of single red ball not a single ball,

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<v Speaker 1>but one single style all over the tree.

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<v Speaker 2>Very tasteful.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like our regular tree we have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of our childhood stuff and the stuff we bought together,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and our our Exon commemorative and our

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<v Speaker 1>Chevron commemorative ornaments McDonald's ornaments. No, but you know how

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<v Speaker 1>like every corporation on Earth Christmas ornaments. Could you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if that's all you add.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be kind of sad, that'd be awful. So

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<v Speaker 2>you were saying that a lot of people turn to, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>turn to fake trees because of the mess and all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. There's also another really good reason that people

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<v Speaker 2>increasingly are selecting artificial trees. And there's some really top

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<v Speaker 2>notch artificial, expensive artificial trees out there that look very

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<v Speaker 2>much like real trees. Yeah, and it's becoming a growing

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<v Speaker 2>alternative for people who are eco conscious. And there's developed

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<v Speaker 2>this big debate over whether artificial trees or regular trees

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<v Speaker 2>are better for the environment. Yeah, and it seems very

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<v Speaker 2>logical if you grow a tree, to cut it down,

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<v Speaker 2>to use a gallon of water a day to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it alive for a few weeks before you throw.

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<v Speaker 1>It out, well, right, throw it out, mulch it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not everybody does. I'm just saying it. It seems like

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<v Speaker 2>an environmental nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it could be.

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<v Speaker 2>But so the artificial tree would seem smarter. But apparently

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<v Speaker 2>there's a study done in two thousand and nine that

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<v Speaker 2>basically said once and for all, like no, actually, depending

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<v Speaker 2>on how long you keep your artificial tree, you're better

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<v Speaker 2>off getting a real tree every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they did the study in Montreal and they said,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, this is the most definitive study yet said,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to reuse that artificial tree for more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years to be greener. This includes greenhouse emissions, resources,

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<v Speaker 1>human health impacts. Like I said, a lot of fake

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<v Speaker 1>trees contain PBC. They're generally manufactured in Asia and shipped

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<v Speaker 1>over here. You definitely cannot mulch those. No, once you

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<v Speaker 1>get sick of it, it's probably gonna have been a

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<v Speaker 1>what do you call it a garbage lot?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you call those?

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<v Speaker 1>Landfill?

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<v Speaker 2>Landfill or field?

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<v Speaker 1>Landfield? Is that no? So, of course the chairman and

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<v Speaker 1>chief executive of Balsam Hill, makers of artificial tree, says no,

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<v Speaker 1>no ours for more green.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, he was saying the point he makes is

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<v Speaker 2>that if you take all of the emissions created by

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<v Speaker 2>all of the Americans driving to a Christmas tree lot,

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<v Speaker 2>getting their Christmas tree, and driving home, in addition to

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<v Speaker 2>like whatever transportation costs. Because you know, most of those

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas tree lots around here, other trees are coming from

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. Yeah, and they're being then ami down and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. You put all that together, you compare that

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<v Speaker 2>to a ship carrying fifty thousand artificial Christmas trees from China.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The artificial trees more environmentally conscious. Yeah, but this study

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<v Speaker 2>supported it too, which one Well, the study eventually Oh sure,

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<v Speaker 2>over the course of I mean, you'd have to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of your tree for twenty years, but yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and look at the bright side, your tree will

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<v Speaker 1>then be retro twenty years later.

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<v Speaker 2>You can use nothing but red ornamental exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's all I got except for you know, multier

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<v Speaker 1>trees afterward, because they can end up you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to do it yourself. Most Citi sub

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<v Speaker 1>programs where you can put it out and they mulch

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<v Speaker 1>it and it'll end up on a playground somewhere, a nice,

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<v Speaker 1>fine smelling playground of Douglas fur or.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have an artificial tree, you can reuse it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just box it up, put it in the attic,

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<v Speaker 1>use it again next year.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Chuck, you've heard of NORD, the North American Aerospace

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<v Speaker 2>Defense Command, Right, I'm a big fan. They're basically like

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<v Speaker 2>the Missile Defense Group for the US and Canada. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know it was a joint effort by

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<v Speaker 1>both countries. I did not know it was US and Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense. I have a feeling I'm probably wrong

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<v Speaker 1>that the US like set this all up and then

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<v Speaker 1>told Canada, Hey, we need to put some of our

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<v Speaker 1>stuff up there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a distinct possibility and it'll keep.

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<v Speaker 1>You safe if you just give us that plot of land, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And they said sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Hey. Well, nor AD, famous for tracking missiles, is

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<v Speaker 2>also famous for a Christmas tradition of tracking Santa Claus.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty great tradition. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in nineteen fifty five, this serendipitous accident happened when

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<v Speaker 2>a serious department store accidentally listed CONEAD, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>Continental Air Defense Command, which was the our assessor to

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<v Speaker 2>nor ED. The series listed conad's operations hotline as Santa

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<v Speaker 2>Claus's number. So all of a sudden, Conad started getting

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<v Speaker 2>all these calls from the little kids wanting to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to Santa Claus.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's right, And instead of being an old curmudgeon,

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<v Speaker 1>the director at the time, Colonel Harry Shop said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, We've located Santa Sleigh on the radar here

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<v Speaker 1>and we're tracking him as we speak, no doubt to

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<v Speaker 1>the delight of the dozens of calls received from the

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<v Speaker 1>kids right that year. And it started a little tradition

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty eight and all of a sudden it

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<v Speaker 1>was a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, nineteen fifty eight was when Nora d started right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh before that it was Conad, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the FAA got in on it, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>as of two thousand and six, the FAA clear Santa

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<v Speaker 2>for flight every year, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is pretty cute. I wonder if they did they just

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<v Speaker 1>say yeah, we're tracking him, or do they put a

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<v Speaker 1>little like, you know, realism into it, like if the

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<v Speaker 1>sleigh weighed this much and he's traveling this fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's like all website you can go to if

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<v Speaker 2>you'd like to delight kids science. It's not a dot

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<v Speaker 2>CoV slash. Santa brings up all sorts of different stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>this whole epic saga about Santa's preparations for his Christmas deliveries.

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<v Speaker 2>And then if you want to track san at home,

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<v Speaker 2>you can go to Nora Adsanta dot org.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Josh, let's talk about one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 5>Christmas time drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>Eggnog as one of my favorites too.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't drink it much to have about one

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<v Speaker 1>solid cup at my Christmas party.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all you have a year?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean how much of that can you drink?

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<v Speaker 2>You're totally out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus at the at what you drink a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>You need to open your eyes, buddy, what do you drink?

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<v Speaker 2>You can drink more than one cup of eggnoggy?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean when do you drink it besides Christmas?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you drink it multiple times at Christmas?

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<v Speaker 2>Multiple times around Christmas?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Yeah, I just I make a batch homemade, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>if you buy it in the cart and I just.

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<v Speaker 2>So you make it. Oh, sure, have you tried George

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<v Speaker 2>Washington's recipe?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but that's gonna be on the list this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you that I tried George Washington's recipe

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<v Speaker 2>using store bought, but with this booze and it is

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<v Speaker 2>out of sight. We'll get to it soon, but let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about eggnog and its origins first.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. They can trace it back to possibly the

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<v Speaker 1>fourteenth century, and of course it was the medieval Englishman

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<v Speaker 1>drinking something known as posset, yeah, which didn't have eggs

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<v Speaker 1>though it was hot milk curdled with ale wine, often

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<v Speaker 1>sweetened and spiced, which sounds really nasty, eh, curdled milk,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. They were trying to get bombed, That's what

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:53.960
<v Speaker 1>they were trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To do, pretty much. And then eventually somebody said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see what happens when we add eggs some.

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<v Speaker 1>Raw and they could make you sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they did. Eventually the wine came to be replaced

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<v Speaker 2>by sherry and madeira. And as this this drink that

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<v Speaker 2>eventually became eggnog, became more complex, it became more expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>and over in Europe, basically you had to be rich

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<v Speaker 2>to have a decent glass of eggnog.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, became the stuff of I don't know, would

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<v Speaker 1>you say aristocrats or zach wid a little too high flutine?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I would say that, okay, And we should say

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<v Speaker 2>we want to thank our friends over at Mental Floss

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<v Speaker 2>for providing us with this one. This one. Yeah, here's

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<v Speaker 2>our glass of eggnog. Crazy to you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, I wish I was drinking it right now. Actually, so,

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<v Speaker 1>the first eggnog in the US apparently was drank by

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<v Speaker 1>Captain John Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>At his settlement. Yeah, sixteen oh seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, what are you gonna do? Kick back in James

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<v Speaker 1>sound have a little agnogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And because it's the US, we had plenty of eggs

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<v Speaker 1>and plenty of booze, so it wasn't like in England,

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<v Speaker 1>and it became pretty popular here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's still in England. Its popularity went down

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<v Speaker 2>the tubes and even still like some people drink eggnog there,

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<v Speaker 2>but not very often. It's very much an American thing,

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<v Speaker 2>even though we totally cribbed it from Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, good for us.

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<v Speaker 2>And they actually think that the word eggnog. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the one of the origin stories for the word was

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<v Speaker 2>that it's a contraction of egg and grog, which is

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<v Speaker 2>what Americans used to ask the bartenders for at the

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the eighteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>Right or came from the word noggin, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>little small wooden mug that they served it in. And

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<v Speaker 1>yet another says a Norfolk slang nog refers to the

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<v Speaker 1>strong ales that were served in those cups.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So somewhere in there lies the word origin. Which one

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<v Speaker 1>do you like?

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<v Speaker 2>I like the American contraction? Yeah, eggnog all right, regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of where the name came from, the first use of

0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:01.639
<v Speaker 2>eggnog to describe this drink came at eighteen hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a guy named Isaac Well Junior who described eggnog

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<v Speaker 2>as consisting of new milk, eggs, rum, and sugar beat

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<v Speaker 2>up together. Pretty simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he had to put new milk in there, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess because the old version was curdled milk or buttermilk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ooh, can you imagine buttermilk eggnog.

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I've never even had buttermilk except in.

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<v Speaker 2>When you were bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Things in the ex bad And what makes me drink buttermilk?

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<v Speaker 1>I've only had it in like recipes that I've used

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<v Speaker 1>for cooking and baking, and I might very well like

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<v Speaker 1>it to this day, but I've been so grossed out

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<v Speaker 1>my entire life because my dad drank it and he

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<v Speaker 1>would put like a whole thing of corn bread in

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<v Speaker 1>it and stir it up until it was just a big, mushy,

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<v Speaker 1>goofy mess, and he would eat it with a spoon.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just can't even look at it to this

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<v Speaker 1>day because that grows me out so much as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't blame you. That's the Southern thing, are you sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I'm positive? Okay, buttermilk with corn bread very big?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Okay, so uh, washing is very American.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What's more American than George Washington?

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<v Speaker 1>Not much.

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<v Speaker 2>George Washington's eggnog. Yeah, we have his recipe. He left

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<v Speaker 2>his recipe and he must have been sousd when he

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<v Speaker 2>wrote the recipe because he forgot to include how many eggs?

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<v Speaker 2>But he included everything else. And this is a the

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<v Speaker 2>verbatim recipe left by George Washington found in the Mount

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<v Speaker 2>Vernon records.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yep, may I please?

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<v Speaker 2>One court cream, one quart milk, one dozen table spoons sugar,

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<v Speaker 2>one pint brandy pint, one half pint rye whiskey, one

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<v Speaker 2>half pint Jamaica rum, one quarter point pint sherry.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's two and a quarter pints of liquor. We

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<v Speaker 1>should point out.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, which makes which makes a court in a quarter

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<v Speaker 2>court in an eighth. Okay, that's a lot of liquor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of booze.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to point out here that you can you

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<v Speaker 2>can do an easy conversion here. If you take the

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<v Speaker 2>cream in the milk, that's six four ounces, You take

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<v Speaker 2>the two and a quarter pints, that's thirty thirty six ounces,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can do some easy conversion. So basically, if

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<v Speaker 2>you do four, if you do four, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to buy your eggnog, this is my tip here. This

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 2>isn't in the recipe. If you want to buy a

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 2>commercially made eggnog, you use four ounces of that to

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<v Speaker 2>one ounce brandy, one half ounce rye, one half ounce rum,

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<v Speaker 2>and a quarter ounce sherry, and you will be pretty

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<v Speaker 2>close to Washington's little concoction. A back to the recipe.

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<v Speaker 2>Mixed liquor first, Then separate yolks and whites of eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>Add sugar to beaten yolks. Mix well. Add milk and

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<v Speaker 2>cream slowly beating. Beat whites of eggs until stiff and

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<v Speaker 2>fold slowly into mixture. Let's set in cool place for

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<v Speaker 2>several days. These days, that would be a refrigerator taste frequently,

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<v Speaker 2>which means go get a buzz every day. Make it

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<v Speaker 2>su you'renogs, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And apparently Georgie Boy loved the stuff.

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh he did. He loved his liquor.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's why his teeth are all rotten. Nextly,

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that's not true. It might have contributed. Yeah, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you get eggnog in the stores these days, you're probably

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>not gonna have a lot of egg in it. FDA

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>regulations say that about only require about one percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the final weight be made from solid egg yolks, and

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>then egg flavored eggnog. Flavored milk is really just milk.

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>It's got maybe point five percent egg yolk. So I say,

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<v Speaker 1>make it yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun if you do make it yourself. Though, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to use pasteurized eggs, because you should. If you

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 2>use fresh eggs, you could come down with salmonella. A

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of people say, well, wait a minute, I'm putting

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half pints two and a half two

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and a half pints of booze in this concoction. Of course,

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 2>it's going to kill all the salmonilla. FDA says, not necessarily,

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 2>don't risk it. Just use pasteurized eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't use pasturized eggs. I should, though, yeah.

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 2>You should. Do you boil your water when your nettie pot?

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Yet no, I live by the seat in my pan.

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Well they don't even bother using pasteurized eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I don't look, I'm not the one that's always sick,

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>all right? So is that it on eggnog?

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<v Speaker 2>Unless you want to tell the story of Judge Garnet

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 2>of Matthews County, should be sure.

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>All right. In nineteen hundred, Good Housekeeping ran a story

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 1>about the tradition in Virginia, and it had this anecdote.

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<v Speaker 1>So religiously is the custom of eggnog drinking observed? The

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Garnett of Matthews County tells a story of rushing

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<v Speaker 1>in on Christmas morning to warn his father that his

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<v Speaker 1>house was on fire. The old gentleman first led his

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<v Speaker 1>son to the breakfast table and ladled out his glass

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of eggnog, drank one with him, and then went to

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>care for the burning building. That is the love of agog,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and little whip cream on top. Li'll cool whip.

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<v Speaker 2>To Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite parts of Christmas because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a working fireplace, even though I'm working on that.

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>By the way, you see the soot on my hands.

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh nice.

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been clean at my chimney.

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Very nice.

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>It's awful work, by the way, I imagine, and I

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>have black lung and I'm sneezing up black boogers. So

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<v Speaker 1>because of all this, one of my favorite traditions is

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<v Speaker 1>the yule log on the TV set.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's actually dates back to nineteen sixty six

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<v Speaker 2>when a guy named Fred Thrower, who is a programming director,

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:40.959
<v Speaker 2>realized that a lot, a lot, a lot of New

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Yorkers who subscribe to a station WPIXTV New York didn't

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>have fireplaces. Yeah, so he figured out, maybe we should

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 2>take a video loop of a nice little fire set

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>to Christmas music and broadcast that not only does everybody

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 2>get a fire in their head else, but we all

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 2>get the day off, except for the one engineer who

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 2>has to make sure that this is going right. Yeah.

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't see this in there, but I bet

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people in programming thought this is not

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna work. This is a really stupid idea.

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it became a pretty big tradition. So Fred

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Thrower came out on top, right, it's right. In two

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>thousand and four, they started broadcasting it in high definition.

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Cable picked it up pretty shortly after cable came around,

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>and then now you can find it on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll watch it on my local cable provider. You

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<v Speaker 1>just searched through during Christmas time and it's the ulog

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you prefer Christmas music or crackling fire sound?

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I do my own Christmas music, so therefore I prefer

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the crackling.

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Fire sound very nice. Yes, you I like the crackling

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 2>fire myself. Yeah?

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so do they do that?

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Do they?

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>They don't give you both.

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Not Fred Thrower's neighborhood. It was set to Christmas music.

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 2>But if you go like onto YouTube, you can find

0:30:55.560 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 2>one two three hour increments of just crackling fire. Nice.

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Chuck, hey Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever heard of a guy named the Grinch? Yes, dude,

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 2>you've seen the Grinch. She stole Christmas many many times?

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Right, How the Grinch stole Christmas? Yeah?

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, it is how the Grinch stole Christmas. I've

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 2>seen that many times. I've seen the movie. I love

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 2>the Grinch.

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Jim Carrey movie pretty good.

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, not bad at all. Really got into

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 2>the who's blew your mind at the end that it

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 2>all took place on like a molecule and a snowflake. Yeah, yeah,

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I was surprised by that spoiler, is it? Well?

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Sure, but who hasn't seen that?

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah, hopefully no one listening to this.

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>But we've got the origin story thanks to our buddies

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>at MPR, right about how the Grinch stole Christmas and

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 2>how Ted Geisel aka doctor Seuss created this thing.

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, apparently, guys, will it was a little more like

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the Grinch than your average who in Whoville in the

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenties, he was an illustrator and the very first

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>idea of Grinch came about when he was drawing illustrations

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>of basically what looked like a boogeyman combined with Sanna. Yeah,

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and it was sort of the first little inkling that

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>like a malevolent Sanna was around and spoiling things for people.

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>So he was apparently a bit of a curmudget I saw.

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I think one of his daughters said that he was

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Grinch on his bad days, and cat and the hat

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>on his good days.

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I could see all those based on himself. Sure, sure, Well,

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>with the Grinch. He published that in nineteen fifty seven

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 2>at age fifty three, and it was pretty much an

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 2>an instant success.

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was literally inspired. Apparently one day he looked

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>in the mirror. He was doing a self portrait like

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Rockwell style, where you look in the mirror, and he

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 1>said he looked in the mirror and saw the Grinch

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>looking back. It was very much based on his perception

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>of himself at least.

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Sure. Yeah, So the book takes off, and then in

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty six, CBS says, hey, man, let's make a

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>version of this, a TV movie version. Yeah, And this

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 2>is how The Grinch became green, actually thanks to a

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 2>guy named Chuck Jones, who made a name for himself

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 2>creating characters like the Roadrunner, Wiley, Coyote, bugs, Bunny, just a.

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Name of you. You know, his granddaughter listens, Oh is

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that right? Yeah, she wrote in a couple of weeks

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>ago about you know, I can't remember what it was about,

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>but she says, by the way, I'm Chuck Jones's granddaughter.

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's cool.

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>And I wrote her back, said you're messing with me,

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, oh, no, I'm not.

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 2>I get that all the time.

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm the real deal.

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a good thing that Chuck Jones came on

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>board because he ended up being to Doctor Seuss what

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Stanley Cooprick was to Stephen King in the Shining. He

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 2>took a very classic, awesome idea, yeah, and put the modern,

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>possibly better spin on it, brought it to life. You

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 2>could say that's true people around the world.

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it wasn't black and white in the book,

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>a little pink here and there. But like you said,

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Chuck Jones made him green and apparently changed the face

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>a little bit to look like himself from the original book,

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>which he said he liked to do and a lot

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>of his characters was give a little bit of himself.

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, he said that. I heard he subconsciously he snuck

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 2>himself in when he looked in the mirror, like Norman

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Rwell or Doctor Seuss, to kind of get an expression right, right,

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 2>he would end up inadvertently drawing himself as well.

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool.

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>So the original cut was about twelve minutes long, which

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>was too short, so it was up to Jones and

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Geisel to fill it out, and one of the main

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>ways they filled it out was through Max the dog,

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>who Jones felt represented the audience, and Max became a

0:34:56.160 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>much larger character in the short TV short he was

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 1>in the book. Yeah.

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>He, I mean a lot of stuff hinged on him.

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 2>He had to keep the sleigh from going over. That's

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot to put on a little dog.

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>It is.

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Another thing that brought it to life is the soundtrack.

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was.

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Narrated and the voice of the Grinch was done by

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 2>Boris Karloff. Of all people like they were like, well,

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 2>let's see who's the master of horror movies at the time. Ah, yah,

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 2>you you come do the voice for this children's cartoon.

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, I saw an interview with Chuck Jones and he said,

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that that ended up happening because he knew

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>what a great voice actor he was. And he said,

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>not many people, because back then he did a lot

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>of voices without people knowing it was him. Yeah, because

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you just couldn't google it and find out, you know

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>who did that.

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>As they very aptly put it in this NPR story,

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Boris Karloff nailed the story simultaneous, lighthearted and ominous tone.

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that's pretty fair assessment.

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Albert hag wrote the songs and then You're a mean one,

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>mister Grinch.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah wrote the music, but guys will actually wrote the lyrics.

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh he did.

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mean that seems appropriate, Yeah, totally.

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.919
<v Speaker 2>But You're a one mister Grinch, of course was sung

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 2>by Thurle Ravenscroft.

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Had no idea and I think, like most people, I

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>believe that it was Boris Karloff.

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, it's Tony the Tiger.

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he was Tony the Tiger Raven's croft. They're great. So, uh,

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Ravenscroft was uncredited in the in the original film, Yeah,

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>so was June fora who did Cindy lou Who? And

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>apparently Chuck Jones and uh and guys that were both

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>like pretty upset about this, and like every interview they

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>ever did made sure they pointed out, like it's not

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Karloff singing, like he couldn't even sing and June four

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>a was Cindy lou Who, And so they tried to

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>get it in as many articles as possible.

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>That nice, Yeah, good for them. Everybody loves the Grinch

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>except for two brothers, David and Bob Grinch, who lived

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 2>in Ridgefield, New Jersey, and wrote a letter to Theodore.

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Guys all and said, hey, can you change the name

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 2>of the Grinch because that's our last name and everybody's

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 2>teasing us. And doctor Seuss wrote back, yeah, and I

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.240
<v Speaker 2>hope that they still have this letter because it read,

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I disagree with your friends who harass you. Can't they

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 2>understand that the Grinch in my story is the hero

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 2>of Christmas. Sure, he starts out as a villain, but

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 2>it's not how you start out that counts. It's what

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 2>you are at the finish.

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 1>And he sealed it with a kiss. So I've got

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the lyrics here for the classic song and the Grenches

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>compared to many things in the song Charming as an eel,

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>cuddley as a cactus, a bad banana with a greasy

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 1>black peel, an empty hole, brain full of spiders, garlic

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>in your soul, a sea sick crocodile, a heartful of

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 1>unwashed socks, that's my favorite one. Or a dead tomato

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>squash with multi purple spots.

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good.

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Crooked jerky jockey and he drives a crooked horse. You're

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>a three decker sauer Kraut and toadstool sandwich with arsenic sauce.

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm very president understand that doctor Seuss wrote the lyrics

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 2>of the song.

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's different when you read it. When it's sung,

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it just sort of goes along you read it. It's like, man,

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>this is the work of a madman. So you got

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 1>anything else?

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>It ran on CBS for twenty two years and then

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>TBS acquired it and now you can find it all

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>over the place thanks to TBS.

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 2>And thank you, mister Brinch.

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, Josh, I see dangling the missletoe above my head.

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what that means? Come over here, give me

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>a big smacker.

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>There's actually there's a procedure to all this. When a

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 2>people kiss under the missletoe, the kiss initiator takes a

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 2>berry from the missiletoe.

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I never knew that.

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 2>And eventually, once all the berries are used up, the

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 2>missletoe's used up, there's no longer good luck for kissing

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 2>under it.

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>That's right, And it's supposed to be good luck for

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 1>married couples, means their marriage will be successful and long.

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Bad luck if you don't and you're a married couple,

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.240
<v Speaker 1>And if you're a single woman who fails to get kissed,

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you will not get married for another year.

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:21.839
<v Speaker 2>A year don't even bother. And this is a very

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 2>very very ancient tradition. They think that it dates back

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 2>to the Vikings, thinking that this was a fertility plant. Yeah,

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 2>it possibly. It possibly derives from enemies who would meet

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 2>under the missletoe. If they happen to be under a missletoe,

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.319
<v Speaker 2>they would put their arms down and embrace and go

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 2>on a cease fire for the day until they took

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 2>up arms again the following day.

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly like our little story last year, remember that, Yeah,

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.399
<v Speaker 1>the Christmas truth. Actually they partied well into the new year.

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they did.

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if there was missiletoe it would seem appropriate.

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 1>So what else? It's a source of luck, It is

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>a sexual symbol of virility, and what else do youy Oh?

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Apparently maidens would place it under their pillow at night

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 1>like a tooth fairy style, But I don't see what

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:11.720
<v Speaker 1>they would get in return.

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 2>They would get to dream of their prince charming. And also,

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 2>if you were a maiden, you could burn some missletone

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 2>and find out how your marriage is going to go.

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 2>If it burned very steady and long, you were going

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 2>to have a nice, long, happy life with marriage. And

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 2>if you if the flames flickered, you might want to

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.399
<v Speaker 2>work a little extra hard.

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:47.359
<v Speaker 4>And that is missletone, Chuck.

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 2>You've heard of Santa Claus sinsor Claus Crompus, all those guys, right, Yeah.

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Sat Nicholas is the Dutch version of Santa Claus, and

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 2>he's not as nice as our American version. In fact,

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 2>he had a little help for an elf named Black Pete.

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 2>And Black Pete's job was to accompany I know, Saint

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Nicholas on his rounds and to keep up with the

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 2>naughty boys and girls. And when they encountered one of

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:14.320
<v Speaker 2>the boys or girls who's naughty, Black Pete would whip them.

0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the Dutch Santa Claus.

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I just yeah, I love it.

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, you found a great story for us about elves

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.479
<v Speaker 2>that I think we should read word for word because

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 2>it's just beyond adorable.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is classic. You've heard this before, right.

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 2>I have, but it's been a very long time.

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was the same way, and there's been different versions.

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>But this is called The Elves and the Shoemaker from

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 1>The Brother's Grim and uh. It is our annual Christmas reading.

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Last year we did Night Before Christmas. Yeah, this year

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it's the elves and the shoemaker. So without further ado.

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:49.840
<v Speaker 2>A shoemaker, by no fault of his own, had become

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 2>so poor that at last he had nothing left but

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 2>leather for one pair of shoes. So in the evening

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:57.720
<v Speaker 2>he cut out the shoes, which he wished to begin

0:41:57.800 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 2>to make the next morning, And as he had a

0:41:59.920 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 2>good conscience, he lay down quietly in his bed, commended

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>himself to God, and fell asleep. In the morning, after

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 2>he had said his prayers and was just going to

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 2>sit down to work, the two shoes stood quite finished

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 2>on his table. He was astounded, and he knew not

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 2>what to say to it. He took the shoes in

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>his hands to observe them closer, and they were so

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 2>neatly made that there was not one bad stitch in them,

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 2>just as if they were intended as a masterpiece.

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Soon after a buyer came in, and as the shoes

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>pleased him so well, he paid more for them than

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 1>was customary, and with the money the shoemaker was able

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 1>to purchase leather for two pair of shoes. He cut

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 1>them out at night, and next morning was about to

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.839
<v Speaker 1>set work with fresh courage. But he had no need

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to do so, for when he got up they were

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>already made, and buyers also were not wanting who gave

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>him money enough to buy leather for four pair of shoes.

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 1>The following morning, too, he found the four pairs made,

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and so it went on constantly. What he cut out

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 1>in the evening was finished by the morning, so that

0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>he soon had his honest independence again, and at last

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>became a wealthy man.

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Now it befell that one evening not long before Christmas,

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 2>when the man had been cutting out, he said to

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 2>his wife, before going to bed, what think you if

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 2>we were to stay up tonight and see who it

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 2>is that is lending us this helping hand. The woman

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 2>liked the idea and lighted a candle, and then they

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 2>hid themselves in a corner of the room behind some

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 2>clothes which were hanging up there, and watched. When it

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.919
<v Speaker 2>was midnight, two pretty little naked men came sat down

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 2>by the shoemaker's table, took all the work which was

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>cut out before them, and began to stitch and sew

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 2>and hammer so skillfully and so quickly with their little

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.840
<v Speaker 2>fingers that the shoemaker could not turn away his eyes

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 2>for astonishment. They did not stop until all was done,

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 2>and stood finished on the table, and then they ran

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:47.240
<v Speaker 2>quickly away.

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Next morning, the woman said, well, I would have said

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things, but this is what this lady said.

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>The little men have made us rich, and we really

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>must show that we were grateful for it. They run

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>about so and have nothing on and must be cold.

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I tell thee what I'll do. I will make them

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:08.439
<v Speaker 1>little shirts and coats, and vest and trousers, and both

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of them a pair of stockings. And do thou too

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>make them two little pairs of shoes. The man said,

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I shall be very glad to do it. And one night,

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>when everything was ready, they laid their presents all together

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 1>on the table instead of the cutout work, and then

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>concealed themselves to see how the little men would behave.

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>At midnight, they came bounding in naked and wanted to

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>get to work at once, But as they did not

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 1>find any leather cut out, but only the pretty little

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 1>articles of clothing, they were at first astonished, and then

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>they showed intense delight. They dressed themselves with the greatest rapidity,

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>putting pretty clothes on and singing.

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 2>No, we are boys so fine. To see why should

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 2>we longer cobblers be. Then they danced and skipped and

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 2>leapt over chairs and benches. At last they danced out

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 2>of doors. From that time forth they came no more.

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>But as long as the sh shoemaker lived, all went

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:04.240
<v Speaker 2>well with him, and all his undertakings.

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Prospered, the elves and the shoemaker by their brothers grim.

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>So I guess the moral here is, if you are

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<v Speaker 2>ever helped by any unclothed elves, clothe them. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I got from this one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I got to. So I've got no listener mail.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say we should just give our annual glad tidings.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I agree, glad tidings to you all. Happy holidays,

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<v Speaker 2>Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, happy Kwanza. Yeah, have a tiptop.

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<v Speaker 1>Tent, however you celebrate this time of year, And even

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<v Speaker 1>if you choose not to, I just hope you're feeling great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll put Chuck, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to say a very special Merry Christmas to

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<v Speaker 2>my lovely wife Umi. It's very nice, uh, and to

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<v Speaker 2>your wife as well, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, thanks to.

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<v Speaker 2>All of our families. Merry Christmas, Yes to all of

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners. Thank you for a very wonderful, wonderful year

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<v Speaker 2>with you guys, and we look forward to another wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>year with you as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, Jerry, do you echo the sentiment?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Merry Christmas everyone. For more on this and thousands of

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