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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The If You Just Believe addition,

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Speaker 1: as the Bengals look to stay alive in the playoff

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Speaker 1: hunt as they host the Indianapolis Colts on Sunday at

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Speaker 1: pay Corps Stadium. Coming up, I'll talk to Drew Sample

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Speaker 1: about his teammate for seven of the last eight years,

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Speaker 1: Jake Browning Hall of Fame wide receiver James Lofton tells

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Speaker 1: us who he thinks is the best wide receiver in

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Speaker 1: Bengals history, and in this week's no The Faux Conversation

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Speaker 1: will take an in depth look at the Colts with

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Speaker 1: the New York Times Playoff Machine. With a six and

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Speaker 1: six record in five games to go, the Bengals are

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Speaker 1: still in playoff contention, and Joe Mixon says Monday's road

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Speaker 1: win over the eight and three Jacksonville Jaguars was a

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Speaker 1: reminder that the Bengals are still capable of beating anybody

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Speaker 1: on their schedule, even without Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I felt like just everybody was like, bro, we

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Speaker 2: could do this, Like we are still the Bengals, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and nobody feeling sorry for themselves.

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Speaker 2: And I think that was a huge thing that I've seen.

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Speaker 2: I felt like this past week was nobody hanging their hands.

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Speaker 3: Everybody like, man.

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Speaker 2: Like, let's go, like we're still in it, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And you know, you can see it

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Speaker 2: from the coach you was here, from the players, and

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Speaker 2: you know, that's a great thing to see because you know,

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Speaker 2: when somebody like Joe goes down, you expect, you know,

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Speaker 2: people would be like, oh, season's over, this, this and that.

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Speaker 2: But we just beat what one of the top season

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Speaker 2: in AOC right now. So I feel like we can

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Speaker 2: play out there. We can play out there with the

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Speaker 2: best of them. I don't care who it is, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So we just got to go

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Speaker 2: out there and do what we do each and every week.

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Speaker 1: But it's going to take.

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Speaker 3: All of us.

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Speaker 1: So what exactly is it going to take for the

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Speaker 1: Bengals to make the playoffs? The New York Times has

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Speaker 1: an interactive online tool called the Playoff Machine that makes

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Speaker 1: it easy to figure out. It allows you to end

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Speaker 1: to the result of any of the remaining games, and

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Speaker 1: then the machine does three hundred and ninety thousand simulations

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Speaker 1: before spitting out their playoff chances. For example, right now,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals have a ten percent chance of getting in.

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Speaker 1: If they beat the Colts on Sunday, it rises to

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Speaker 1: seventeen percent. I spent some time basically entering all of

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Speaker 1: the possibilities for the bengals remaining games, and here's what

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Speaker 1: I found out. If they win four of their last

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Speaker 1: five to finish ten and seven, they should make it.

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Speaker 1: Depending on the one loss, the playoff probability ranges from

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Speaker 1: eighty one percent to ninety percent. But if they go

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Speaker 1: three and two even with wins over the three AFC

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Speaker 1: In other words, nine to eight is probably not going

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Speaker 1: If Jake Browning continues to give them solid play at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: a four to one finish is very possible. For more

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Speaker 1: on Browning, who was named the AFC's Offensive Player of

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Speaker 1: the Week, I spoke to tight end Drew Samp, who

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Speaker 1: eight years ago. True, Monday's game is going to be

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Speaker 1: remembered as the Jake Browning game for his spectacular performance

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Speaker 1: against the Jags. You played with him for four years

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Speaker 4: I think, same thing that Jake's always been great at.

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Speaker 4: You know, the moment wasn't too big for him. It

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Speaker 3: Time for him to perform, he performed.

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Speaker 4: You know, he put the ball where he did to go,

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Speaker 3: I think he did a great job doing that.

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Speaker 1: How excited were you for him that he had that

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Speaker 4: You know, we we were together, you know, as freshman

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Speaker 1: He started as a true freshman fresh out of high

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Speaker 1: We're visiting the Drew sample. You had a touchdown catching

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it never hurts. And I

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Speaker 4: think you know, Jake and and our offense, the way

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Speaker 3: And I think you're seeing the fruits of that.

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Speaker 4: So it obviously never hurts to have that, you know,

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Speaker 1: The school that you two guys played at, Washington is

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a little bit of both.

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Speaker 4: I think obviously, you know, the PAC twelve dissolving, you know,

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Speaker 3: So I think, you know, it's kind of sad in

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Speaker 1: Twelve Monday Nights game against Jacksonville was really fun to broadcast.

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Speaker 1: There were five ties and six lead changes and all

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Speaker 1: sorts of weird stuff going on. Do you have fun

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Speaker 4: I think the fun kicks in, you know, as the

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Speaker 4: it's fun to obviously go out and play on the

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Speaker 4: but I think it was the real fun. Didn't kick

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Speaker 4: it was over. But those are just the type of

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Speaker 4: You know, there's really good stretches, there's bad stretches, whatever

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Speaker 1: So two weeks ago against Pittsburgh, the team only had

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Speaker 1: got to start with Jake Browning, who is spectacular on

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Speaker 1: James, you're on a Super Bowl team in Buffalo where

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Speaker 1: The Bengals are six and six with five games to go.

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Speaker 5: Well, I never hear this phrase uttered during training camp,

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Speaker 1: We are visiting with Hall of Fame wide receiver James

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Speaker 1: lofton last week, Jamar Chase became the fourth wide receiver

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Speaker 1: in history to have eighty plus catches in one thousand

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Speaker 1: plus yards in each of his first three seasons. What

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Speaker 1: makes you go wow when you watch Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not so much the numbers that guys are

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Speaker 5: putting up now because there's more passing to the game.

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Speaker 5: But the thing about Jamar Chase, and normally I use

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Speaker 5: this phrase about running backs, it's contact balance. When you

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Speaker 5: watch him play. You know, you know, we talk about

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Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts and all that he can squat. If he

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Speaker 5: can squat seven hundred pounds, I'm pretty sure Jamar Chase

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Speaker 5: can squat six hundred and ninety five pounds because his

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Speaker 5: lower body just looks so firm. He doesn't get bumped

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Speaker 5: off his routes. He goes where he wants to on

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Speaker 5: the football, and that's a trait that a lot of

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Speaker 5: receivers don't have. They get pushed out where the defensive

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Speaker 5: back wants to push them to. That didn't happen to

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Speaker 5: Jamar Chase at all.

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Speaker 1: Te Higgins was back on Monday night after missing three

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Speaker 1: games with a hamstring injury. The Bengals had lost those

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Speaker 1: three games. He came back and they won on Monday

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Speaker 1: night against the Jaguars. What does team mean to this offense?

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Speaker 5: Well, he's a big body, he's a When you take

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Speaker 5: the three receivers as a group, you really can't double

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Speaker 5: team or shade coverage to anybody. And even though we're

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Speaker 5: talking about T Higgins, the guy that I got to

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Speaker 5: take my hat off to is Tyler Boyd. And he

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Speaker 5: came into the league. He was Robin to AJ Green's batman.

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Speaker 5: Then he turned into Batman. Then somebody else shows up,

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Speaker 5: he turns back into Robin. Now he's Alfred, the trusted

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Speaker 5: guy who gets everybody where they're supposed to be. And

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Speaker 5: I just love his spirit and the way that he

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Speaker 5: plays the game and the unselfishness all three receivers. I

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Speaker 5: think really that the attitude that they have that I

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Speaker 5: see from them because they could all be stars in

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Speaker 5: their own right, but collectively together they're awesome.

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Speaker 1: James, I'm glad you mentioned Aj Green because the Bengals

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Speaker 1: have had some great wide receivers in their history, Isaac Kurtis,

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Speaker 1: Chad Johnson, AJ Green, Jamar Chase and others. Do you

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Speaker 1: have a guy at the top of your totem pole

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Speaker 1: from the Bengals all time list?

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Speaker 5: Well, you named him first. When I was a going

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Speaker 5: into my senior year at Stanford, Bill Walsh came in

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Speaker 5: and he came down to the track where I was

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Speaker 5: and he said, he said, who did you piss off?

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Speaker 5: And I said, so, what do you mean? He said,

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Speaker 5: why haven't you been playing on the football team. I said, well,

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Speaker 5: you know, they told me I could run track, so

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Speaker 5: when the football season was over, I might be second

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Speaker 5: string and then i'd come back in the fall and

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Speaker 5: I was third string. And he said, well that's not

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Speaker 5: going to happen. He said, I got some tape I

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Speaker 5: want you to watch, and I had never watched tape

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Speaker 5: of a professional receiver. And he showed film on Isaac

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Speaker 5: Curtis and he said, this is the guy that you

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Speaker 5: could be like. And I never had anybody tell me

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Speaker 5: that I could be a professional, that I could be

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Speaker 5: like somebody who was in the pros. And so Isaac

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Speaker 5: Curtis has always stood out to me. And I was

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Speaker 5: fortunate to relay that story to him about three or

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Speaker 5: four years ago. And you know, Bill Watsh was special

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Speaker 5: to a lot of people, really special to me, And

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Speaker 5: that association with Isaac Curtis, even though Isaac didn't know

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Speaker 5: it for years, always stood out to me.

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Speaker 1: When I picture your playing days and picture Isaac's playing days,

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Speaker 1: you two guys remind me of each other in a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways. You had the tremendous speed. Obviously you

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Speaker 1: had several seasons where you averaged more than twenty yards

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Speaker 1: of catch, But it was more than that. It was

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Speaker 1: the style with which you played. Did you try to

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Speaker 1: emulate Isaac in that way? Or is that just a

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Speaker 1: similar personality with you two guys.

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Speaker 5: It might just be similar personalities. I know this, I

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Speaker 5: know about Isaac Curtis when he was in high school

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Speaker 5: was a great running back. I was a bad high

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Speaker 5: school quarterback and I didn't have the running skills that

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Speaker 5: he had. When I saw some of his highlights and

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Speaker 5: I go back and I google him. Now, I go, man,

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Speaker 5: he was really awesome, and you know, sometimes you get

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Speaker 5: a lot of credit for when you're playing. And then

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Speaker 5: he merges with Chris Collinsworth, he beats out David Verser. Again.

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Speaker 5: You haven't heard that name in a while. So Isaac

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Speaker 5: Curtis was special in his era and probably a guy

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Speaker 5: along with Ken Anderson, who didn't get the credit that

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Speaker 5: he deserved a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: James, you played in three straight Super Bowls with the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and played for one of the great leaders

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Speaker 1: of all time in Marv Levy. What do you think

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Speaker 1: of Zach Taylor and does he have any Marv Levy

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Speaker 1: qualities when you watch the way he coaches this team.

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Speaker 5: I remember meeting Zach Taylor in his first year when

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Speaker 5: this team was not where it is now. We'll just

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Speaker 5: put it like that mildly, and I said, man, he's

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Speaker 5: got a tough road in front of him. It's interesting

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Speaker 5: when I watched the young coaches come in now, they

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Speaker 5: have a pass for the game. They have the energy

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Speaker 5: to pursue it twenty four hours a day, and they

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Speaker 5: do that and if given the right elements to the

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Speaker 5: systems that they want to play, to the things that

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Speaker 5: they see dancing in their head at night. They can

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Speaker 5: get it done. And he's been able to do that.

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Speaker 5: And you know, you look no further than the stability

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Speaker 5: that they've had along the offensive line, mixing the skilled players,

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Speaker 5: get the quarterback, get a fine guy to tutor to

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Speaker 5: everybody on defense. So there's a lot that goes into it,

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Speaker 5: not just the calm demeanor, but Zach It's interesting he

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Speaker 5: had a big grin on his face in one of

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Speaker 5: the passes that Brown And completed, and so you could

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Speaker 5: just see the joy that he had and the happiness

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Speaker 5: that he has for his players. And I think that

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Speaker 5: that infectious quality just goes throughout the whole organization.

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Speaker 1: James, You've got the Bengals and Colts. This Sunday, Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: is seven and five. The Colts have a four game

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Speaker 1: winning streak. They only won four games all of last year.

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Speaker 1: What's impressed you about Indy.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was there in Jacksonville when we had Minshew

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Speaker 5: Mania and Gardner. Minshew is a guy who you know,

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Speaker 5: against all odds, yes he was drafted, but he's not

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Speaker 5: supposed to be a starting quarterback. And he started thirty

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Speaker 5: two games in the NFL already, so what used to

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Speaker 5: be two full seasons, he's already had that under his belt,

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Speaker 5: and he just kind of creates. Sometimes you might not

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Speaker 5: see a lot there. He creates. He doesn't make a

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Speaker 5: ton of errors, and but he does take risks, so

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Speaker 5: that's impressive. Quintin Nelson, the left guard, is so much

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Speaker 5: fun to watch. It's like having a refrigerator out there,

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Speaker 5: just pushing the refrigerator for because he may not be agile,

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Speaker 5: but you shouldn't be in front of him.

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Speaker 1: It's an important game for both of these teams. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the culture seven and five, the Bengals are

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Speaker 1: six and six. What are a few things Cincinnati must

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Speaker 1: do on Sunday to come away with a win.

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Speaker 5: Well, they have to have the right attitude. And by

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Speaker 5: that I mean take the things that we do well

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Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Bengals and continue to do them. And that's

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Speaker 5: what the coaching staff is geared for, because you just

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Speaker 5: don't go in and say, Okay, let's see what's going

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Speaker 5: to happen. When we looked last week and you saw

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Speaker 5: Chase Brown run the ball really well, there were a

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Speaker 5: couple of plays that they ran, and they ran them

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Speaker 5: over and over again about five or six times because

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Speaker 5: what they saw is they saw a defense that wasn't

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Speaker 5: adapting to the way that they were blocking. So sometimes

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Speaker 5: you get lucky on something like that. But I think

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Speaker 5: in this ballgame, you gotta go with with the stars

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Speaker 5: that you have. We talked about the receivers already, and

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Speaker 5: I'd be remiss if I didn't talk about Joe Mixon,

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Speaker 5: who I think is a top five running back. You

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Speaker 5: may not have all the yards that everybody has, but

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Speaker 5: when you watch him play every ounce of energy, I

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Speaker 5: don't believe in one hundred and ten percent. I don't

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Speaker 5: believe in second effort. I believe in one hundred percent

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Speaker 5: and effort throughout the play. And you see that every

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Speaker 5: time Joe Mixon touches the ball. I mean it's I

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Speaker 5: would not want to be in his way trying to

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Speaker 5: tack me.

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Speaker 1: Final question for the great James Lofton. He never played

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati in your NFL career, but you did play

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Speaker 1: for Forrest Greg in Green Bay. What was your experience

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Speaker 1: like playing for Forrest.

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Speaker 5: Force had a ton of respect for the game, and

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Speaker 5: I remember there was one Saturday we were getting ready

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Speaker 5: to play the Rams. And so we're, you know, a

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Speaker 5: loose practice on Saturday, a little bit of a walk through,

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Speaker 5: and there's some jokes and stuff like that, and so

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Speaker 5: he said, oh, here comes Deacon Jones, and Force went

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Speaker 5: into attack mode and he goes Deacon Jones never got

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Speaker 5: around me. And what you realized at that moment is

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Speaker 5: how much pride he had for that area that was

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Speaker 5: right in front of him and a yard or two

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Speaker 5: to the side of him in each direction. That's what

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Speaker 5: he owned on the football field, and he took so

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Speaker 5: much pride in it, and that was special about Forest Grade.

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Speaker 1: James, this is great. I always appreciate your time, travel

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Speaker 1: safe to Cincinnati and look forward to seeing you on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking should be a great game, great atmosphere well.

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Speaker 1: James Lofton has Isaac Curtis ranked as the Bengals greatest

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Speaker 1: receiver of all time. Jamar Chase is closing in on

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Speaker 1: becoming the third receiver in team history to have one

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Speaker 1: hundred or more catches in a single season. Carl Pickens

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Speaker 1: had exactly one hundred in nineteen ninety six, and TJ.

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Speaker 1: Hushman Zada holds the team record with one hundred and twelve.

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Speaker 1: In two thousand and seven, Chase has eighty six receptions

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Speaker 1: with five games to go.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's a goal to mine too. I

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Speaker 6: mean I'm many in my weight. Wasn't a seventy last game?

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Speaker 6: Fourteen away from one hundred?

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Speaker 3: Swear?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm about to get this.

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Speaker 3: That's easy. Oh yeah, that's a gold. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 3: got it.

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Speaker 6: Team records, one twelve, I got it, don't even where

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Speaker 6: about it. Let me wear about it.

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Speaker 3: The team records?

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Speaker 6: How many games you got left?

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 3: I got it?

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 1: We're good.

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to get one to seventeen. Baby, you're on

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Speaker 6: pace for one twenty two. Let's let's let's kill it,

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Speaker 6: shatter it.

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Speaker 5: Did you ever write that down a one of your goals?

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Speaker 3: I do have it actually written. That's funny you said

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just don't want to be close to what

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Speaker 6: he has, so we want to make it a hard

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Speaker 6: for somebody else.

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Speaker 3: Next, on.

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Speaker 1: The night the Bengals drafted Jamar, I brought up some

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Speaker 1: of the greatest wide receivers in team history, and he said,

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Speaker 1: then I'm going to break every record they've got if

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Speaker 1: Jamar stays healthy. It seems like a safe bet. Finally,

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Speaker 1: time for this week's Know the Faux segment. Matt Taylor

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Speaker 1: is the radio voice of the Colts, a team that's

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Speaker 1: seven and five this year after winning four games all

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Speaker 1: of last year. When Matt joined Dave Lapham and me

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Speaker 1: on the Bengals Game Plan Show this week, I asked

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Speaker 1: him if the Colts' success has been a big surprise.

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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, obviously, I mean anything after last year,

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Speaker 7: you know, in terms of the win total being up

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Speaker 7: from a year ago is going to be better. But I

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Speaker 7: got to tell you, I mean that the four to

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Speaker 7: twelve and one season last year was really it just

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Speaker 7: got out of control so fast. And you know, you

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Speaker 7: are what your record says you are. I mean, there's

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Speaker 7: no excuses for you know, the poor ending to last

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Speaker 7: season when they lost their last seven games, But there

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Speaker 7: was just too much talent. There was just too much

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Speaker 7: you know, holdovers and guys in quality positions for that

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Speaker 7: team to be that poor record wise. I mean, if

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Speaker 7: you look back on it, you had you know, on defense,

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Speaker 7: you had a pro bowler at every level of that defense.

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Speaker 3: Right, we got.

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Speaker 7: Zaire Franklin coming back, you got the Forrest Buckner back,

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Speaker 7: and you know, Kenny Moore and then some guys that

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Speaker 7: are taking a nice couple of steps here from year

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Speaker 7: two to three and Quitty pay and dieing with Dingbo

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Speaker 7: and then you basically return your entire offensive line from

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Speaker 7: from last year. So it's kind of a long winded

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Speaker 7: answer of way of saying that it was really disappointing.

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Speaker 7: The Colts were just two good roster wise to be

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Speaker 7: four twelve and one. And like I said, once the

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Speaker 7: Colts got swept by Tennessee last year and it looked

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Speaker 7: like there was kind of low hopes to win the

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Speaker 7: AFC South, and you started firing offensive coordinators and Frank

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Speaker 7: Reich was fired, Jeff Saturday came in. It was just

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Speaker 7: kind of a kind of a free for all and

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Speaker 7: kind of a tail spin. So it's certainly been an

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Speaker 7: eventful you know, I would say, you know, twelve thirteen

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Speaker 7: months for the Colts, certainly when you throw in the

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Speaker 7: draft and the off season with Shane Stiken coming in,

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Speaker 7: drafting Anthony Richardson in the hope that he brings long

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Speaker 7: term to the Colts at the quarterback position, just like

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Speaker 7: Joe Burrow a couple of years ago in Cincinnati. So

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Speaker 7: it's definitely a pleasant surprise right now in that sense

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Speaker 7: that last year was so hard to follow and make

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Speaker 7: sense of it. This year it's you're on a four

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Speaker 7: game winning streak, you're seven and five, five games to go,

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Speaker 7: you got your playoff destiny in your own hand. That

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Speaker 7: part of it is certainly much better or this December

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Speaker 7: compared to last December.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I just watching the offensive line. I know it

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Speaker 8: was the disappointment last year, but man, when you've got

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Speaker 8: Quentin Nelson, Ryan Kelly, you know Smith, I'm Braden Smith.

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Speaker 8: You've invested you know, Raymison as well, or excuse me,

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Speaker 8: Raymond as well at the left tackle position. You've invested

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Speaker 8: some significant draft capital in an offensive line. That's damn good.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's a good group. My question is no,

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Speaker 8: go ahead.

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Speaker 7: No, I was. I was agreeing with you with you laugh.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's you're exactly right. There was no excuse

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Speaker 7: for that group to give up sixty sacks last year

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Speaker 7: instead of franchise record, right, And like I said, it's

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Speaker 7: basically all back this year, and it's kind of a

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Speaker 7: one eighty with the same players, the same core players

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Speaker 7: not that long ago in twenty eighteen when they led

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Speaker 7: the NFL and a few sacks allowed, So I kind

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Speaker 7: of think they changed some things. Again, Shane Steiken's offense

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Speaker 7: has certainly changed some things, but they got a new

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Speaker 7: leader now, new position coach there, and Tony Sperano junior.

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Speaker 7: All of that has added up to much better success.

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Speaker 8: So how about the battle of backup quarterbacks in this

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Speaker 8: football game? Because of injury to starters that are you know,

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Speaker 8: franchise quarterbacks for many years to come, hopefully with both franchises.

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Speaker 8: But Gardner Minshew and Jake Browning back in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 8: they competed in the Apple Cup Washington, Washington State, Washington.

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Speaker 8: Jake Browning's Washington team beat the Minshew's Washington State football team.

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Speaker 8: How similar? How different do you think these guys are

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Speaker 8: in terms of what they're doing for their football team.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's tough to say. I got to go back

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Speaker 7: and pull up the YouTube highlights I guess of that

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Speaker 7: game from five years ago, right around Thanksgiving, I suppose.

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Speaker 7: But you know, as far as Minshew with the Colts

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Speaker 7: is concerned, you know, he's kind of this enigma because

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Speaker 7: if you look at his stats and you just look

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Speaker 7: at you know, the box scorers from the last couple

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Speaker 7: of games, you'd say, well, he's really not having that

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Speaker 7: grade of a season. I mean he ranks bottom. He

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Speaker 7: ranks in the twenties or you know, twentieth or or below,

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Speaker 7: and in all the major quarterback stats, right, you know, right,

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Speaker 7: yards per attempt, quarterback rating, passer rating, completion percentage, yards,

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Speaker 7: all of that stuff. But the Colts they're winning and

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Speaker 7: that's all that matters. And Minshew is he's making like

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Speaker 7: five or six plays a game that make you say wow,

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Speaker 7: and he kind of like putting the team on his

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Speaker 7: back in clutch situations. You know, a couple of weeks

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Speaker 7: ago in Germany against New England, he had that twenty

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Speaker 7: eight yard er kind of that flick of the wrist

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Speaker 7: down by his own goal lines, you know, flips it

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Speaker 7: out to Josh Downs for a diving catch that was

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Speaker 7: like the game stealing chunk play for the Colts in

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Speaker 7: that game. And then in this pass game and overtime

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Speaker 7: against Tennessee, puts one right and the money drops it

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Speaker 7: in the bucket for a fifty five yard you know,

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Speaker 7: deep shot down the near side line to Alec Pierce

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Speaker 7: to set up the Colts goal.

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Speaker 5: To go.

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Speaker 7: Then he's got the clutch touchdown pass to Michael Pittman

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Speaker 7: Junior for the game winner and overtime. So he's just

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Speaker 7: kind of like he's like Minshew MANI or Minshew Magic,

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Speaker 7: Like he doesn't play well consistently throughout the course of

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Speaker 7: the game, but he's just sort of like stone cold

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Speaker 7: when he has to be. And the Colts are kind

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Speaker 7: of riding that with him and Pittman and Josh Downs,

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Speaker 7: who's a rookie wide receiver at a North Carolina. It's

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Speaker 7: kind of those three guys in the passing game on offense,

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Speaker 7: and it's been enough the last couple of games for

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Speaker 7: the Colts to score twenty points. I mean, I know

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Speaker 7: the Colts are going to blow you away with you

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Speaker 7: know their personnel, and you know their their you know

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Speaker 7: their their their size and the stature and with some

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Speaker 7: of their weapons and things like that, but they are

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Speaker 7: one of two teams in the NFL that has scored

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Speaker 7: twenty points in eleven out of twelve games. They're an alliance,

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Speaker 7: so they're finding ways to put points on the board

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Speaker 7: because of Minshew's efficiency and the overall efficiency with big

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Speaker 7: plays and certainly getting it done inside the Red Zone.

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Speaker 1: Our guest is the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor Man.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised a few weeks ago when the Colts

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Speaker 1: released former Pro Bowl linebacker Shaq Lenard. He has since

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Speaker 1: signed on with Philly. What was the story there?

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Speaker 7: It was really kind of an unfortunate thing for Shack.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the long story, the short story is that

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Speaker 7: he's had He's battled so many different injuries and so

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Speaker 7: many and has had so many different surgeries. You go

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Speaker 7: back to twenty twenty one, he had and battled through

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Speaker 7: an ankle injury that entire season and still play it

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Speaker 7: at an all pro level. And then the next offseason

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Speaker 7: had this nagging ankle injury. Tried to get to it

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Speaker 7: it addressed with the surgery, thought they had it figured out,

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Speaker 7: it still wasn't eradicated. His injury was still there. Had

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Speaker 7: another surgery in twenty twenty two in June with it,

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Speaker 7: and then they figured out that he had a back

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Speaker 7: problem as well, had some some pinch nerves and some

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Speaker 7: disc issues in his back that was causing the lower

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Speaker 7: body not to be able to fire. And listen, anytime

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Speaker 7: you're talking about out backs and nerves and discs like that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's a tricky proposition, and it's really

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Speaker 7: kind of complicated, and so those things, I mean, I

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Speaker 7: think he had four different procedures done in a span

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Speaker 7: of about two years trying to figure those things out,

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Speaker 7: and they just never could. And you know, last year

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Speaker 7: he came back too early. You know, he was chopping

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Speaker 7: at the bit to get out there, and obviously he's

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Speaker 7: a great competitor, wanted to help his team, so he

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Speaker 7: would admit to you now that he rushed it a

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Speaker 7: little bit, you know, came back too soon, just wasn't

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Speaker 7: the same guy, so he shut it down. I mean

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Speaker 7: last year in twenty two, I think he only appeared

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Speaker 7: in three games and played a combined seventy four snaps

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Speaker 7: before they shut him down in November and had another surgery.

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Speaker 7: And I give him a ton of credit. He just

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Speaker 7: battled his tailoff, and I mean people behind the scenes

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Speaker 7: really don't know how much work, how much sacrifice, and

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Speaker 7: you know, just quite honestly, like a ton of his

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Speaker 7: own money to hire specialists and fly people in all

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Speaker 7: over the world trying to get his nerve issue fait're out.

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Speaker 7: And you know he came back this year, they had

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Speaker 7: him on a pitch count. He was playing, but it

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Speaker 7: certainly wasn't the level in terms of participation snap count

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Speaker 7: wise that he was used to. He wasn't playing on

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Speaker 7: third down, and that's you know, he he he made

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Speaker 7: a name for himself with all those splash plays and

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Speaker 7: the takeaways and those traditionally come on third down, and

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Speaker 7: when he's not out there to get those on the

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Speaker 7: money down, it's just going to be hard to kind

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Speaker 7: of make an impact. And so you know, they kind

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Speaker 7: of told him, like, just the snap count's going to

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Speaker 7: go down. You're just not the same guy. And then

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Speaker 7: I think both parties come to, you know, needed to

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Speaker 7: come to the realization that, you know, we we've got EJ.

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Speaker 7: Speed here now playing linebacker and it's it's hard to

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Speaker 7: keep him off the field considering where he's at and

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Speaker 7: where Leonard was, and so they released him. And it's

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Speaker 7: just a really unfortunate situation because of you know, the

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Speaker 7: great player that he turned into and you know, all

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Speaker 7: the special moments and the takeaways and the big moments

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Speaker 7: on defense that he had when he was healthy from

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Speaker 7: twenty eighteen to twenty twenty one. But you know, he's

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Speaker 7: now continuing his NFL life somewhere else, and it's just

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Speaker 7: unfortunate that he couldn't continue his upward trajectory with the Colts.

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Speaker 7: And I'm rooting for him. I hope he has another

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Speaker 7: chance to get back on the field and turn himself

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Speaker 7: into the player that he used to be. But it

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Speaker 7: was just sort of clear with the Colts that it

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Speaker 7: was going to be hard for him to be that

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Speaker 7: guy the rest of this season.

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Speaker 8: Gus Bradley has the reputation around the league of you know,

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Speaker 8: players believing in him and playing hard for Gus Bradley.

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Speaker 8: And seems like this group is forty two sacks, second

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Speaker 8: most in the NFL. You got four different players with

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Speaker 8: five and a half sacks or more. It's led to

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Speaker 8: twelve interceptions, tied for fifth in the NFL. More has

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Speaker 8: taken two of his three interceptions back for touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 8: How good is Gus Bradley.

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Speaker 7: Gus is awesome.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 7: He's a great coach. Obviously, he brings the former head

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Speaker 7: coach pedigree with the to the Colts. He's seen just

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Speaker 7: about everything in the NFL. I mean, he had those great,

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Speaker 7: you know seasons and uh, you know that that great

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Speaker 7: you know personnel lineup with them in Seattle, that lesion

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Speaker 7: of boom. But you're right that the Colts are just

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Speaker 7: a very disruptive defense right now. I mean they're not

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Speaker 7: gonna have right now. They don't have great stats that

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Speaker 7: blow you away in terms of rush and pass and

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Speaker 7: total yards, but they just make plays and they're disruptive,

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Speaker 7: like like a chronicle, Dave.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like.

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Speaker 7: Number number two in sacks right now, during this four

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Speaker 7: game winning streak for the Colts, they've got twenty one

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Speaker 7: sacks and they're they're like five sacks away from setting

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Speaker 7: the franchise record, the Indianapolis franchise record for sacks in

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Speaker 7: a single season. It's really diverse right now. I think

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Speaker 7: that's the most encouraging thing about this pass rush. In

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Speaker 7: the past, it used to be, you know, DeForest Buckner

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Speaker 7: fighting through double teams just to get after the quarterback

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Speaker 7: and there really wasn't a whole lot going on off

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Speaker 7: the edge. Well right now you can't say that. And

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Speaker 7: I think Sampson Abacom, who's a nice addition in free agency.

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Speaker 7: He leads the team in sacks. He's got a career

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Speaker 7: high this year. He's been a great addition off the edge.

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Speaker 7: He's having a tremendous season. And also, I go back

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Speaker 7: to what I said earlier with Quitty pay and dioa Dangbo,

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Speaker 7: those guys getting more playing time. The light bulb is

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Speaker 7: sort of going off for those guys. You know, they're

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Speaker 7: part of that that four player group that has at

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Speaker 7: least five and a half sacks as well. So that

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Speaker 7: that's the most encouraging thing about this defense right now

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Speaker 7: with five games to go, is they're offsetting some of

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Speaker 7: the bad, the bad rushing defense numbers by just getting

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Speaker 7: after the quarterback and pushing teams, you know, getting teams

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Speaker 7: behind the eight ball in terms of down and distance.

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Speaker 7: The one good thing about the Colts right now is

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Speaker 7: they're giving getting Grover Stewart back and Dave, I know

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Speaker 7: you watched a lot of film on the Colts, and

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Speaker 7: he just means so much to their interior rush defense.

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Speaker 7: He's coming back after serving a six game suspension, right

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Speaker 7: and the rushing defense it really fell off a cliff

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Speaker 7: without them, I mean, that's there's no way to put it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, without him in the lineup, the Colts gave

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Speaker 7: up on average one hundred and fifty three rushing yards

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Speaker 7: a game during his six game suspension, and those were

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Speaker 7: to some teams that weren't great rushing teams like you know,

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Speaker 7: Carolina and New England and Tampa Bay. Those are teams

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Speaker 7: that want to throw the ball and they sort of

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Speaker 7: gashed the Colts up front. So that's going to be

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Speaker 7: an interesting storyline to me in this game is how

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Speaker 7: much Mixing and Zach Taylor and Browning want to run

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Speaker 7: the football with Grover Stewart backs because they they said

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Speaker 7: today that he's full go. There's no ramp up time

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Speaker 7: for him, there's no pitch count. He's ready to go.

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Speaker 7: He didn't have an injury, he just had to sit

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Speaker 7: out six games. So he's going to be fresh and

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Speaker 7: his body's going to be feeling good.

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Speaker 1: Bengals opened as an underdog for Sunday's game, but the

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Speaker 1: line has changed. Cincinnati is currently a two point favorite.

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