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Speaker 1: a little bit. What happened was I couldn't hear myself
Speaker 1: in my headphones microphone worked, and I couldn't hear the
Speaker 1: Danettes either, and I was playing Jerry West sound where
Speaker 1: Jerry was talking about the teams that passed on Luca
Speaker 1: don Chick, and then all of a sudden, I couldn't
Speaker 1: hear Jerry and wasn't sure when it ended, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden just started talking. And then we had
Speaker 1: to open the door to the man cave to the
Speaker 1: other side, so the Danets would then just yell to
Speaker 1: me because I couldn't hear them even if their microphone
Speaker 1: was on. Yes, PAULI, when the Jerry West clip was playing,
Speaker 1: you started talking over it like Fritzie when we had
Speaker 1: on Mark Valbert Valbert. Yeah, and We're like, I look
Speaker 1: at seem like, goes Dan losing it? What's he doing here?
Speaker 1: He's talking over the clip? Yeah, well people thought I
Speaker 1: lost it before. Yes, it was almost the way it
Speaker 1: sounded like you were arguing with Jerry West because you
Speaker 1: were like, he's he's talking about this. Then you're like, well,
Speaker 1: not exactly. I mean, whoa Dan, what you're here, Jerry?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Yeah? Well, when I couldn't hear myself,
Speaker 1: I thought that you couldn't hear Jerry West. So, in
Speaker 1: fairness to Jerry West, this is what Jerry had to
Speaker 1: say to tarall Owens on his podcast about Luca don
Speaker 1: check Luka done? What was he the fifth player in
Speaker 1: the draft? Right? Oh my god? And look at him.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that someone let him go. I can't.
Speaker 1: He was a unique kid. At fifteen years of age.
Speaker 1: He was competing against men in Europe. He's fifteen years
Speaker 1: but not competing excelling. That's Jerry West. His entire answer
Speaker 1: to tarall Owens in his podcast Todd, So I had
Speaker 1: my mighty I hope it gets off that. That's when Todd,
Speaker 1: for some reason, I didn't know his microphone was on
Speaker 1: the first day. I'm trying to figure out how to pasting.
Speaker 1: I like howm talking. Yeah, good line, it's like that.
Speaker 1: I double down and I continued to talk again in
Speaker 1: the middle of it. Play it again. Here's Todd with
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer mar Albert Todd. So I have
Speaker 1: my mighty. I'll be watching it. I hope it gets off.
Speaker 1: I like how Marv Albert doesn't even stop. What a professional.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know what's going on in the
Speaker 1: back of there, but I'll continue my Yeah. I like
Speaker 1: the middle where tigers. I don't know what he said there. Well,
Speaker 1: there's always the Bill Hayder interview where Todd leaves his
Speaker 1: microphone on when he's laughing at Bill Hayter. When Bill
Speaker 1: Hayter is doing is a day line? And uh, do
Speaker 1: you have that Seaton on short notice? We come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the DNA. Oh that cask DNA
Speaker 1: so bad. I love that lot, and I loved the impersonation.
Speaker 1: But that tackle has no place, no, no, in any airwave. No,
Speaker 1: we know you loved it. It was just you had
Speaker 1: your microphone on during that. I don't know why I
Speaker 1: knew to share my laugh with every guy. The guy.
Speaker 1: He shot me, shot you dirty look. No no, no,
Speaker 1: he shot me with the guys. It's like Ed McMahon,
Speaker 1: so bad at so many levels. It's a bad laugh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bad interrupted laugh. That's the best final hour here The
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show, Monday Night Football. It was Lar Jackson
Speaker 1: in a not a career defining moment, but certainly one
Speaker 1: you had to your resume tape when you look back
Speaker 1: on his career, and we will focus on that fourth
Speaker 1: quarter what he did against the Colts. You know, I
Speaker 1: had baseball last night. The Red Sox close out the Rays,
Speaker 1: the Giants up two games to one. On the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: Max Scherzer gave you a performance that you would expect
Speaker 1: out of a Hall of famer. He did everything. He
Speaker 1: had ten strikeouts, three hits, went seven innings, no run support,
Speaker 1: gave up a home run to Evan Longoria. And now
Speaker 1: your season is on the brink. Braves up to one
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Speaker 1: dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at DPS show. Through
Speaker 1: five weeks, you'd think that you could start making reasonable
Speaker 1: predictions about the NFL, But one of the reasons that
Speaker 1: it's hard to make picks is really it comes down
Speaker 1: to health, because you're trying to figure out these quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: can they stay healthy one extra game? They're running more
Speaker 1: than ever MVP hopeful Josh Allen carried eleven times for
Speaker 1: the Bills and the win against the Chiefs. Trey Lance
Speaker 1: ran the ball in the loss to the Cardinals. Now
Speaker 1: he's dealing with a sprain knee. Joe Burrow had to
Speaker 1: go to the hospital after getting hit in the throat.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones stumbling on camera after he suffered a concussion.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks are as athletic as ever, so were the defenders.
Speaker 1: There's a risk with your team one play away from
Speaker 1: having the season changed in an instant. But Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: was wonderful last night. Here's his head coach, John Harbaugh.
Speaker 1: It's one of the greatest performances I've ever seen. It
Speaker 1: wasn't easy. It wasn't like we came out just you know,
Speaker 1: up and down the field. We had to overcome and
Speaker 1: fight through some things. He was under pressure. He created
Speaker 1: plays with his feet through the ball away when he
Speaker 1: had to throw it away. And then once we started
Speaker 1: going and you know when we're in that situation you're
Speaker 1: talking about Jamison. We went into our fast mode, no huddle,
Speaker 1: two minute type mode. He just came alive. And all
Speaker 1: of our guys did, I mean all the guys who
Speaker 1: made plays, you know, and the offensive line. But it
Speaker 1: starts with Lamar and he deserves the credit. Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: ranks in the top eight in both passing yards and
Speaker 1: rushing yards this season. Fifth in passing yards, He's eighth
Speaker 1: in rushing right now. In the NFL poll question for
Speaker 1: the Final Hour, make okay, I updated it based on
Speaker 1: your first take, which was a bigger whiff. Letting Luca
Speaker 1: don Check fall to number three in the twenty eighteen draft,
Speaker 1: behind Marvin Bagley and DeAndre Aden, or letting Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: fall to number six in the twenty twenty draft behind
Speaker 1: Joe Barrow, Chase Young, Jeffakuda, Andrew Thomas, and Tuah Well.
Speaker 1: I would say Luca because Lucas I know, is going
Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer. I don't know about that,
Speaker 1: you know. With Justin Herbert, although when Jimmy Johnson said
Speaker 1: on Fox's pregame show he would take Justin Herbert over
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, I was like, Okay, got my attention. With that,
Speaker 1: it just feels like, you know, normally the game doesn't
Speaker 1: come to as easily as it appears to with Justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: but the game comes easily to Luca don Check as well,
Speaker 1: and he's been able to do that at a pretty
Speaker 1: high level. So I say it's Luca, but let me
Speaker 1: let me let Justin Herbert have a couple of years
Speaker 1: under his belt. Plus, it's easier for Luca to have
Speaker 1: an impact on a game than it is with Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert because Luca has the ball in his hands all
Speaker 1: the time, he's on the floor at all times, whereas
Speaker 1: Justin is only going to be as good as his
Speaker 1: wide receivers or his offensive line or you know, the
Speaker 1: defense stopping the opposition. Yeah, McLevin, what if Herbert wins
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl before Luca gets to the finals eventually,
Speaker 1: are we going to pressure Luca to win a title? Well?
Speaker 1: I don't know if we pressure him, but I think
Speaker 1: you're going to have that expectation. That's why I said,
Speaker 1: you know, when people go he's going to be the MVP,
Speaker 1: and I said his team is not good enough for
Speaker 1: him to be the MVP. You can be a great player,
Speaker 1: but we expect your team to be great as well.
Speaker 1: And I think if Kristaps Porzingis is able to take
Speaker 1: his game to the next level, then maybe Dallas is
Speaker 1: one of those title contending teams. Until then, Lucas just
Speaker 1: going to be a triple double and you will have
Speaker 1: those fascinating moments, but they're not going to be a
Speaker 1: team in the bigger picture. Yeah, Poe, going back to
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, when when you're playing as well as he
Speaker 1: is for the Chargers, you forget about the criticisms. And
Speaker 1: I'm looking back at the pre draft profiles. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of people who were not on his bandwagon.
Speaker 1: They said he cooled off as a player. He peaked
Speaker 1: at Oregon, he stayed maybe one year too long, and
Speaker 1: they saw some of his flaws. They said his ball placement,
Speaker 1: was he miss his easy roots, bad footwork, runs too much.
Speaker 1: There's a lot a lot of criticism, more criticism there
Speaker 1: were some of the other guys. Well, I go back
Speaker 1: to Lamar Jackson. I remember scouts saying, one scout in particular,
Speaker 1: who's his source? He said, you know, he's inconsistent, but
Speaker 1: he's dynamic, and he's not afraid of a big moment,
Speaker 1: like this is terminology that they use in their little
Speaker 1: inner circle. But he said, you know, these are things
Speaker 1: that we're looking for. Do you shy away? Do you
Speaker 1: want the ball? You try to make something happen. And
Speaker 1: you know, watching Justin Herbert in the Rose Bowl and
Speaker 1: you're seeing that athleticism, and it was a question of
Speaker 1: can he be consistent? But that's the that's the case
Speaker 1: with all of these quarterbacks. I mean, Josh Allen if
Speaker 1: you look back, he wasn't necessarily a great high school quarterback,
Speaker 1: highly recruited college, junior college. He goes to Wyoming, of
Speaker 1: all places, not a football factory for quarterbacks, and then
Speaker 1: he goes to Buffalo and you know, I was told
Speaker 1: that Cleveland was going to draft him, and then they
Speaker 1: used that as sort of a smoke screen that they
Speaker 1: then were going to decide on Baker Mayfield. And if
Speaker 1: you gave Cleveland that opportunity, now they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: what were we thinking we should have taken Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: Baker had proven it, he had played at a big
Speaker 1: time program, won the Heisman, and we weren't sure about
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in those first couple of years. I wasn't
Speaker 1: sure about Josh Allen. But once you figure it out,
Speaker 1: do you understand it? And it's really like everything is
Speaker 1: about the speed of the game. How quickly do you
Speaker 1: get the play in? Do you call it, do you
Speaker 1: look and you maybe audible? And then how quickly you
Speaker 1: can get the ball out? Like there's so many things
Speaker 1: that go into it in just one play. That's why
Speaker 1: when I was watching Trey Lance, he might be a
Speaker 1: wonderful talent, he's just not ready to play in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He got a long delivery and you know, when all
Speaker 1: else fails, you want to run. Like those are things
Speaker 1: that make me nervous when it comes to Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable talent, But you don't win on just talent because
Speaker 1: the guy who has the least athleticism at that position
Speaker 1: is still one of the leading candidates. From VP and
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. You make decisions, and you make them in
Speaker 1: real time, and it happens so quickly, and you know,
Speaker 1: that's really what I find. That's the difference between good
Speaker 1: and great, great and Hall of Famer, right, not running
Speaker 1: is a decision. Steve Young didn't become a Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer until he stopped running because he probably could have
Speaker 1: been a running back in the NFL. It was that talented.
Speaker 1: But you have to you have to be able to
Speaker 1: process do it in real time, and then if you
Speaker 1: have to run a lot of times, it's like, uh
Speaker 1: not there run and that's where you get in trouble.
Speaker 1: Here's news that was just sent to me. The nets
Speaker 1: GM Sean Marks announced that Kyrie will not play or
Speaker 1: practice with the team until he is quote eligible to
Speaker 1: be a full participant. In other words, he hasn't been vaccinated. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I wonder if Kyrie is sitting out there right now
Speaker 1: going mission accomplished. Yea beautiful. I'll take November off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't understand it. I'm hoping that he's not
Speaker 1: paid through all of this. Who knows with the you know,
Speaker 1: the players union, like, you know, he should get paid.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what their fight would be. But man,
Speaker 1: if I'm Kyrie, I'm angry, you know, I mean, Katie,
Speaker 1: I'm angry, Like dude, I came here, I want to
Speaker 1: win a championship. You don't want to be here, then leave.
Speaker 1: But I want to be one of the greats of
Speaker 1: all time. I'd be I'd be angry. And James Harden
Speaker 1: I think this is his last year there with the Nets.
Speaker 1: I really feel that way that if they won, then
Speaker 1: James Harden would probably go someplace and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: let me be the star. Let me put up thirty
Speaker 1: thirty five a game. Yeah, I prove and I won
Speaker 1: my championship. Here man oh man Jason in Texas. Hey, Jason,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey? Dan? Six four two
Speaker 1: o five. Hey, so help me out here. I'm confused.
Speaker 1: I thought that DeAndre Ayton had made it to the
Speaker 1: finals and Luca has not. So is that's still not
Speaker 1: a good pick? Would you take DeAndre Ayton and give
Speaker 1: me Luca don Chick? That's tough. I'm a diehard Arizona fan,
Speaker 1: so I want to see theirs on a fan sixteed you.
Speaker 1: I guess you're right. But at this point, I mean,
Speaker 1: DeAndre has proven he can get to the finals. Luca
Speaker 1: has not. Well, he's proven that he could get to
Speaker 1: the finals with Booker and Chris Paul, and he's a
Speaker 1: good player, but he's you know, it's not where if
Speaker 1: you said, hey, DeAndre, you go to the MAVs and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Luca on your Phoenix suns. Who do
Speaker 1: you think's gett into the finals? Exactly? Kennedy and Louisville.
Speaker 1: Hey Kennedy, good sir, what's on your mind? Well? First,
Speaker 1: that DeAndre eight and take was just horrendous. But anyways,
Speaker 1: I had a thought on your side. Right next to
Speaker 1: your desk. I see the silver medal from Tokyo, which
Speaker 1: is pretty awesome. Was curious if that's on purpose, because
Speaker 1: you guys have number one of sports in me. I
Speaker 1: didn't know if like, once you win you'll getting old.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works. Was just curious. Well played, Kennedy,
Speaker 1: well played. Yeah, I got a silver medal here, no gold,
Speaker 1: just silver. But that's okay. It's just nice to get nominated.
Speaker 1: Do you guys want to get nominated but lose or
Speaker 1: not get nominated at all this year? Because I think
Speaker 1: what we did this year, we're we have to get nominated.
Speaker 1: We we had that good a show. But if I
Speaker 1: said we're gonna get nominated for the fifth consecutive year
Speaker 1: and lose the Sports Emmy, do you guys want to
Speaker 1: go through that again? Seaton? Definitely, you want to be
Speaker 1: nominated then not nominated? Yeah, heck yet. Okay, but we lose, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: if we're not nominated, we lose two. Okay, Fritzie, absolutely
Speaker 1: keep the year streak going and eventually we'll get one
Speaker 1: of the Okay, Paul. It's weird because it's they're both
Speaker 1: bad choices. Well, which one's worse? Well, you feel like
Speaker 1: you fell off if you don't get nominated. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you get nominated, lose, Okay, Stevens last year. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: I need to get nominated, that's all because then it
Speaker 1: feels like like we're going against the big big boys,
Speaker 1: you know, ESPN, you know Fox, all these shows, and
Speaker 1: we're just a little group of twelve guys and where
Speaker 1: I can't even get my headset to work. Let's see
Speaker 1: them do it without a headset. Yeah, let me see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pardon the interruption. Yeah. See, So then would you rather
Speaker 1: know we're getting nominated and lose or roll the dice?
Speaker 1: I guess I guess I'd roll the dice just the
Speaker 1: possibility of maybe we sneak in there and win. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because once we win, then I'm retiring. That's it. Do
Speaker 1: you and me? Both? Brother? So it's a walk off?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's it. We win, I grab it,
Speaker 1: I walk. It's a walk off. It's holding out for
Speaker 1: that damn trophy. Yeah, we'll all break our headphones yet
Speaker 1: out here. Let's take a break justin. Herbert will join
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Speaker 1: the quarterback of my Los Angeles Chargers. He's Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: back on the program, coming off. Well, what's been a
Speaker 1: pretty good start for the Chargers so far. They got
Speaker 1: the Ravens coming up, which leads me to the obvious question,
Speaker 1: how much did you watch of the Ravens last night? Justin? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I watch the entire game. But first off, thanks for
Speaker 1: having me back again. It's always a pleasure. Okay, what
Speaker 1: do you take do you watch the offense, you watch
Speaker 1: the defense there and you take notes. You watch the
Speaker 1: entire game. It's kind of different than the film you
Speaker 1: watch just because of the camera angles. But whatever, you
Speaker 1: can watch, whatever you can pick up during the game.
Speaker 1: I think it's a bonus. But to be able to
Speaker 1: go back and watch it later the following day, I
Speaker 1: think helps even more. You're listed as a dual threat quarterback,
Speaker 1: So is Lamar Jackson? Do you feel like you're a
Speaker 1: dual threat when you see Lamar Jackson out there on
Speaker 1: the field, I do not have the same skill set.
Speaker 1: You're a good runner, Lamar just seems like it might
Speaker 1: be just a little better runner than you. Lamar's quicker, faster, stronger.
Speaker 1: You can do it all, but do you try not
Speaker 1: to run? I think running is an important job of
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, and obviously not taking hits too, because
Speaker 1: I think your ability is your availability, and as long
Speaker 1: as we're doing our job and you can extend plays
Speaker 1: and convert third and fourth downs, I think using the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks legs, I think that's a huge part of our offense.
Speaker 1: But I wonder though, when you go through your progressions.
Speaker 1: Probably when you're in college, you may not have gone
Speaker 1: through everything. You just take off and run and rely
Speaker 1: on your athleticism. But in the NFL you might be fast,
Speaker 1: but those guys are on the other side of the
Speaker 1: ball are pretty fast too, So like you have to
Speaker 1: have a clock in your head or a reminder of
Speaker 1: go through your progressions and then take off. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: one of those things that our coach our quarterback coach
Speaker 1: last year, Pet Hamilton, I we talked about the entire time,
Speaker 1: and as soon as I got here, he said, everyone
Speaker 1: on defense is it faster than you. And as soon
Speaker 1: as you realize that getting the ball out quickly and
Speaker 1: going through your reads is the most important job. Sometimes
Speaker 1: the pocket does break down where there's a lane that
Speaker 1: splits and you can find it. But other than that,
Speaker 1: it's all about getting the ball out quick and finding
Speaker 1: your completions. But when you you learned to slide playing baseball,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess yeah, correct, Okay, But because there are
Speaker 1: a few quarterbacks that have never learned to slide, you
Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson seemed to be pretty
Speaker 1: good because you played baseball. Some of these other guys
Speaker 1: they have no idea how to slide. It's not an
Speaker 1: easy thing to do. I think just having grown up
Speaker 1: playing baseball ever since I was in kindergarten, I feel
Speaker 1: like that's just a natural thing. And you know, Kyler
Speaker 1: and Russell, I'm sure they played baseball growing up, and
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that I think you just
Speaker 1: learned to do and definitely something you have to spend
Speaker 1: time on if you haven't played baseball. What is it
Speaker 1: about the month of October. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know these numbers. Since last season in games played in
Speaker 1: the month of October, seventeen touchdowns one interception tied for
Speaker 1: the most touchdowns fewous interceptions among starting quarterbacks in that month.
Speaker 1: You're tied with Tom Brady. That's a pretty good guy.
Speaker 1: That's being a conversation. But you know, I kept saying,
Speaker 1: don't get your hair are cut because your stats are
Speaker 1: going to drop off. And that was last year. I mean,
Speaker 1: you paid the price. I hope you learned your lesson.
Speaker 1: I did, all right. I know we've talked about that
Speaker 1: plenty of times, and I won't make the same mistake.
Speaker 1: Take me back to when you're in grade school and
Speaker 1: you said you're going to be a professional quarterback and
Speaker 1: you're going to live in Los Angeles. First of all,
Speaker 1: is that true? And if so, how did you come
Speaker 1: to that conclusion so young in your life? It is true.
Speaker 1: I think the more impressive thing is for my mom
Speaker 1: to have kept that piece of paper from elementary school.
Speaker 1: And she probably could have looked at it and said,
Speaker 1: you know this, we're not going to keep this, but
Speaker 1: she ended up keeping it and we looked back at it,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's just one of those
Speaker 1: awesome things where if you put your mind to it,
Speaker 1: you can do anything. And I kind of worked out
Speaker 1: pretty pretty well. Just so you know, you're not a
Speaker 1: parent yet, but when you are, you know your wife
Speaker 1: will keep everything. Just so you know, all those little
Speaker 1: I got Valentine's Day cards from my I kept everything,
Speaker 1: so that kind of thing. If my son wrote down
Speaker 1: he wanted to be the quarter back for the packers,
Speaker 1: I would have kept it, and then I would have
Speaker 1: embarrassed him the whole time when I realized when he
Speaker 1: realized that he was not an athlete. So, yes, mom
Speaker 1: does keep all of those things, so and thankfully she did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's good to know though, because that was
Speaker 1: definitely a long time ago. So what do you do
Speaker 1: on a day off? Watch film? The quarterbacks have come
Speaker 1: in and lift and then right after that we'll watch
Speaker 1: film for a couple of hours. Yeah, but that's not
Speaker 1: a day off though, justin technically it kind of is
Speaker 1: our day off, But you know, you have to use
Speaker 1: all the time that you can to get advantage and
Speaker 1: get ahead of the schedule. Because we don't have a
Speaker 1: whole lot of time during the day and especially during
Speaker 1: the week, so anytime that we can get we gotta use. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but isn't there part of you that goes, I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta take a break from this. I think you
Speaker 1: could look at it that way. I think I love
Speaker 1: football enough that I don't really ever want to get
Speaker 1: away from it, and I think when I do have
Speaker 1: off time, I think that's kind of the tough part
Speaker 1: is is I need something to do. I need to
Speaker 1: watch football, I need to play football. So it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of weird like that. But play golf like a
Speaker 1: day that you just do video games? Like you you
Speaker 1: tell coach, hey, I'm going to take a personal day
Speaker 1: and go play golf or something. Doesn't work that way, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so. I think maybe if
Speaker 1: you've if you've got fifteen twenty years in the league.
Speaker 1: But yeah, who's posters did you have on your wall
Speaker 1: growing up? Um? I had a Joey Harrington one from Oregon. Okay,
Speaker 1: makes sure I still have that in my room. So wait,
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, you have did Joey? Okay? I didn't
Speaker 1: know you brought you brought Joey, uh well, anybody else
Speaker 1: any other quarterback? Um, No, I think that was the
Speaker 1: only one. I think that was a a picture of
Speaker 1: him scoring on a quarterback throwback, and I think an
Speaker 1: early Bowl game in maybe two thousand and two against Texas.
Speaker 1: I can't remember which game it was. But now you
Speaker 1: talked about you knew you wanted to be a professional quarterback.
Speaker 1: When did you know you wanted to be Oregon starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: I grew up being an Oregon fan, So maybe as
Speaker 1: soon as I knew what football was kindergarten, first second grade,
Speaker 1: we started going to all these organ games and my
Speaker 1: parents would always take me, and that was kind of
Speaker 1: always the goal. Whether that was realistic at the time,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I think as soon as I got
Speaker 1: to high school and started playing and kind of started
Speaker 1: to get some attention, I kind of realized that maybe
Speaker 1: it was a little more realistic than I thought. He's
Speaker 1: the Chargers quarterback, Justin Herbert. The Chargers just beat the
Speaker 1: Browns and he threw for four touchdowns also ran for
Speaker 1: another one. How do you explain that fourth quarter? We've
Speaker 1: we've watched it a couple of times. We've we've talked
Speaker 1: about it. I don't know, to put up thirty four
Speaker 1: points in the second half like that, and it really
Speaker 1: was a shootout more of like a college football game
Speaker 1: kind of than we imagined. But I thought it was
Speaker 1: great for our offense to be able to answer so
Speaker 1: many times. And you know, sometimes that's the NFL, and
Speaker 1: sometimes you're gonna give up six points and sometimes you're
Speaker 1: gonna give up a lot of points, and it's all
Speaker 1: about complimenting the other side of the ball. And I
Speaker 1: thought it was a win by all three phases. On Sunday,
Speaker 1: did you say a loo to Miles Garrett at all?
Speaker 1: Because that defensive front usually is pretty ferocious there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I talked with him after the game. He is tough
Speaker 1: to block. He's about as special as it gets in
Speaker 1: the combination of speed, toughness, agility. There's no one else
Speaker 1: like him. Can you hear those guys coming now? I
Speaker 1: think everything calms down so much noise wise, that it's
Speaker 1: it's more all visual and and sometimes you just feel
Speaker 1: it and you know you've got maybe one or two
Speaker 1: seconds in the pocket before it collapses. So it's definitely
Speaker 1: a tough, tough situation. Explain that feel that you have
Speaker 1: to have in the pocket because we look at guys
Speaker 1: like you know, Brady, just it's a little movement here
Speaker 1: here there, like, how is that something learned or is
Speaker 1: it just something in your DNA? Yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: is something you can learn. I think it's a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of experience and feeling that the leverage
Speaker 1: of the defender and sometimes with those quick movements like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you can buy just enough time to be
Speaker 1: able to get the throw off. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what Tom Brady has been so good at. He's got
Speaker 1: such a great feel in the pocket that he's able
Speaker 1: to step up, avoid the rush and get the ball
Speaker 1: out on time. What's been the biggest improvement for you?
Speaker 1: I think understanding the offense and learning about defenses I've
Speaker 1: been huge as this offseason. I've spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time with Shane Day, Chase Daniel, and Easton Stead just
Speaker 1: talking about defenses on our offense and having a good
Speaker 1: feel for it and so that when we go out
Speaker 1: on Sunday, you can recognize the coverage, see the fronts,
Speaker 1: you can see everything and not spend too much time
Speaker 1: worrying about it. I mentioned this earlier when it comes
Speaker 1: to quarterbacks and how you process. You have to do
Speaker 1: everything and you get like fifteen or twenty seconds, send
Speaker 1: the play in, maybe send two plays in, get to
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. You've got to call out coverage.
Speaker 1: You gotta can you explain that? Just let people understand
Speaker 1: that it's not as easy as it appears to be
Speaker 1: and give me real time getting to play or plays
Speaker 1: and then what happens. Yeah, so everything is signaled in
Speaker 1: through the radio in our helmets, um, and then you'll
Speaker 1: repeat the play and sometimes they get pretty long, and
Speaker 1: so those are stuff that you've got to study all
Speaker 1: week and fifteen sixteen word calls are definitely tough. But
Speaker 1: you go into the huddle, you repeat the play, tell
Speaker 1: everyone to do you break the huddle, you see the coverage,
Speaker 1: whether you have any run tags or kills or alerts,
Speaker 1: You've you've got to be ready for those, um. But
Speaker 1: you get up to line scrimmage, you run the play,
Speaker 1: and then then you do the whole thing again. Okay,
Speaker 1: give me a complex play it just it just called
Speaker 1: in and what's it going to be? Uh, last year
Speaker 1: we'd we'd go fleet right three thirty five, max f
Speaker 1: seam dag kill you know, you just you could throw
Speaker 1: on whatever you want. They get pretty long, and um,
Speaker 1: it's just stuff you got to really study. Anybody ever
Speaker 1: looked at you and not known what you're talking about
Speaker 1: in the huddle? No, everyone else has been really good.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I've messed up r going and her, Hey, how's
Speaker 1: had to happen that you don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: There's just so many plays and you got to worry
Speaker 1: about so much and sometimes you mess up, like whether
Speaker 1: it's a tag to the Z or the F and
Speaker 1: so sometimes the words just get split up in your mind.
Speaker 1: So it's stuff your head set ever go out a
Speaker 1: couple of times, and so that's when you just have
Speaker 1: to go with a play that you know everyone can run.
Speaker 1: And depending on the personnel you how you have out
Speaker 1: on the field, you got to make a split decision.
Speaker 1: Do you practice quarterback sneaks? We do, actually, so we've
Speaker 1: we've actually talked a lot about that and with Joe Lombardi,
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of talked a lot about how Drew
Speaker 1: Brees has done in and he's been really successful over
Speaker 1: the years. So we've kind of implemented a lot of
Speaker 1: things that he's been able to do. And Brady, I mean,
Speaker 1: he scores all of it. He's the king of the sneak. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a really tough play to stop and to
Speaker 1: be able to stop that, stop the run and stop
Speaker 1: the play actually pass. It's not an easy job. But
Speaker 1: when you go up to the line of sco you
Speaker 1: go up to your center, do you tap him on
Speaker 1: the right or left cheek if you're going to do
Speaker 1: a quarterback sneak? Um, it's kind of known which direction.
Speaker 1: We kind of talk about that the prior to the game. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because so I don't want you to give way secrets
Speaker 1: here that when you go to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and you're tapping your center on the cheek there? Do
Speaker 1: people recognize you in la Um? I don't really spend
Speaker 1: too much time outside of uh, you know, the building
Speaker 1: in my house, and UM hasn't really been too much
Speaker 1: of an issue. I don't think people care too much
Speaker 1: about it. Wait, do you have any fun? Football? Is fun?
Speaker 1: Showing up here to the building every day? I could
Speaker 1: imagine that I could find some fun in la that
Speaker 1: it might not be my home in my office. Yeah. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: we're about an hour south of LA. So you know
Speaker 1: we're kind of separated, and um, you know, I think
Speaker 1: it's a great area that we're in and being able
Speaker 1: to spend it with the teammates and all this responsibility
Speaker 1: that we have. You have to be held accountable. So
Speaker 1: stay and safe. Uh. Congrat I like you're you're a nerd,
Speaker 1: You're a grinder. Yeah, you know, you're you're You're doing
Speaker 1: all the right things there. And uh, and don't try
Speaker 1: to match Lamar, you know, run for run, Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: do my best. I'm gonna get down. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: take any hits. And and that's slide slide, just remember
Speaker 1: slide my Chargers. Great to talk to you again, justin.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much and uh, congrats awesome, thank you again.
Speaker 1: That's Justin Herbert. Have my Oregon Ducts and my LA
Speaker 1: Chargers there. I don't know. I'm twenty three and I'm
Speaker 1: in LA. Like, I gotta can I go to Hooters
Speaker 1: or something like, I gotta do something here Buffalo Wild Wings. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: If I'm a Charger fan, I love what I just heard.
Speaker 1: This guy's staying in watching tape on a Saturday night.
Speaker 1: That's how you win a Super Bowl guys go out,
Speaker 1: don't win Super Bowl? Do Joe namaz In as a
Speaker 1: long time ago. Yeah, Justin Herbert's sitting there on the
Speaker 1: off day watching tape. I remember when I was around
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills when they lost three consecut four consecutive
Speaker 1: and they they went out. You know, I kept thinking, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you should be going out, but
Speaker 1: they would go out the one in Minneapolis and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: where we want to go to Prince's Place? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's good. Yes, I mean the obvious
Speaker 1: line here. Maybe they should have stayed in, I know,
Speaker 1: but see, we've been staying in and getting ready for
Speaker 1: the show every single day. No emmis well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think we have a new shirt for Charger fans. Though.
Speaker 1: You asked Justin Herbert, does they have any fun? He said,
Speaker 1: football is fun. Yeah, that's it. Football is fun. Is fun, football,
Speaker 1: Charger football, it's fun. And they got the Ravens coming up.
Speaker 1: That's that's a pretty good start there. Pretty good start. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mcle the team that the Bills lost so dramatically to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys stayed in a lot right that nineties Cowboys. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I think Troy. Did I think Troy was Troy might
Speaker 1: have been the only cowboy who stayed in. Felt like
Speaker 1: there were a couple other guys that may have stayed
Speaker 1: out for a few people. Yes, Todd, did they get
Speaker 1: them twice in a row? Of my memory serves the
Speaker 1: cowboys in the Bills. It was a two years at
Speaker 1: rowth Dallas met the Bill. Yes, those cowboys are just
Speaker 1: so lucky. They weren't in the social media era. You know,
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin, there's no no Internet. Back then, they didn't
Speaker 1: even have Internet. But there's a few of those teams,
Speaker 1: you know, even the Bulls, you know, Jordan's Bulls, Michael's
Speaker 1: career social media could have gone differently. The Mets in
Speaker 1: eighty six. That's as crazy as I've ever been around
Speaker 1: social media with those guys trying to think, um, who else?
Speaker 1: The Cowboys of course, yes, toun, I don't know, just
Speaker 1: from watching it recently. The eighty six Mets, how could
Speaker 1: they have possibly functioned on a daily basis, never mind
Speaker 1: winning the World Series? They were like completely going out
Speaker 1: of control. Some of those guys on that team, thank
Speaker 1: you too well. I remember interviewing somebody with the Mets
Speaker 1: and they still had alcohol on their breath from the
Speaker 1: night before. But then I remember interviewing Billy Martin and
Speaker 1: Billy had alcohol in his breath. This was the night
Speaker 1: of a game ed Yankee Stadium. Remember interviewing somebody with
Speaker 1: the Mets. I'm like, that has to be from last night.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing maybe not with Billy, you never knew. But
Speaker 1: pretty pretty uh, pretty interesting group of players teams to cover. Yeah, mcclevin,
Speaker 1: did guy smoke cigarettes in the locker room? Yeah? In
Speaker 1: the eighties. Yeah, Yeah, that's probably not going to come
Speaker 1: back like as a thing. I don't think so. But
Speaker 1: they would be smoking in the dugout, you know, during
Speaker 1: BP prior to a game and just fire up a heater, yump.
Speaker 1: Imagine if you cut the sidelines during a big game
Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert's just wolfing downy cool, smoking a heater.
Speaker 1: Jack in Michigan, Hey Jack, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1: Damn nice to talk to you. Thanks Jack. What's on
Speaker 1: your mind? Hey? Um, I commend you. You've got a
Speaker 1: good team going there. You got some good personalities. You
Speaker 1: just don't quite have enough to get over the top
Speaker 1: for a sports emmy. Yeah. I think mcloughn is good.
Speaker 1: He's uh kind of the geek freak is what we
Speaker 1: call him. Yeah, not quite the same as the Greek creak.
Speaker 1: But if I could guarantee you a Sports Emmy, would
Speaker 1: you do it? If you had tastus and Michaels, they
Speaker 1: don't like to work too much, just have him for
Speaker 1: sweep sweeks, win the Emmy? Would you take it or not? No?
Speaker 1: I would not. I win with my guys. I lose
Speaker 1: with my guys, usually lose. Yeah, I don't. Actually, I
Speaker 1: don't win with my guys. I lose with my guys.
Speaker 1: I got a snot bubble there. Yes, if you could
Speaker 1: bring it out Michaels for sweep weeks, we'd be okay.
Speaker 1: But I thought he was going to ask if I
Speaker 1: could get rid of you and we win a Sports Emmy,
Speaker 1: would you do it? And I'd say absolutely yes. If
Speaker 1: my headphones aren't working, yeah, yeah they are. By the way,
Speaker 1: I was flattered when you call Justin Herbert a nerd.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a nomage to the back row there.
Speaker 1: He seems like just you. Todd's not a nerd like
Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, well, Todd's not a bunch of a
Speaker 1: social life. I could see no, I could slip into that.
Speaker 1: I think you're you're just lame. You're not a nerd. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't go away to college. Yeah, you're just lame.
Speaker 1: Stayed at home. What's What's more, I think it just
Speaker 1: insulted me more than than mcclough. They stayed at home
Speaker 1: with your mom. I have cookies, Okay, I have a room.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want cookies. We already discussed this ten minutes ago.
Speaker 1: No cookies and you had Did you have to leave
Speaker 1: your bedroom door open? Yeah? It was the open door
Speaker 1: policy of FDR, and I had the door had to
Speaker 1: be like half open, like I'm only a junior in
Speaker 1: college and I'm twenties. Keep the door open. And then
Speaker 1: your mom would she would find reasons to who wants pizza?
Speaker 1: Come on eleven a m. We don't want any lunch, nothing,
Speaker 1: We don't watch chip cookie embarrass Let's take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll come back. Well, last call for phone calls. What
Speaker 1: we learned? What's the store tomorrow? Right after this? Thanks
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Speaker 1: else new on the John Gruden front. I'm curious if
Speaker 1: more emails are leaked. If I'm the commissioner, I'd be
Speaker 1: curious who's down the leaking, because this person might be
Speaker 1: just leaking John Gruden emails. Now, what happens if some
Speaker 1: other sensitive emails that might have to do with other
Speaker 1: owners get leaked here because it feels like it's open
Speaker 1: season here. Six hundred and fifty thousand emails they're sorting through,
Speaker 1: and the only one so far that have been leaked
Speaker 1: had to do with John Gruden. By the way, first
Speaker 1: twenty games for Justin Herbert fifty touchdowns, forty four passing,
Speaker 1: six rushing. He has almost six thousand passing yards. That's
Speaker 1: so far for Justin Herbert. All right, final results of
Speaker 1: the poll question mcloven, So our three was which was
Speaker 1: a bigger whiff letting Justin Herbert fault in number six
Speaker 1: or letting Luca don Check fallowed number three. Actually Herbert
Speaker 1: wins the pot, he does, Yeah, all right, I mean
Speaker 1: recency bias. He just had a good appearance. Luca wasn't
Speaker 1: on the show today. Yeah. By the way, remember j R. Smith,
Speaker 1: former NBA player, He went back to college. He wanted
Speaker 1: to play golf North Carolina A and T. He started
Speaker 1: playing this year for his college team and during competition
Speaker 1: he stepped in a bee hive while playing a hole
Speaker 1: and he had to require medical attention. So he was
Speaker 1: playing in the final round of the Elon Phoenix Invitational
Speaker 1: in Burlington, North Carolina, hit a shot into the woods,
Speaker 1: went in and he stepped. I shouldn't laugh, but I
Speaker 1: am laughing. Why are you laughing? Because I once stepped
Speaker 1: on a bee hive. It was I don't know who's
Speaker 1: in the ground, if those are hornets, but I remember
Speaker 1: stepping on a bee hive that was in the ground
Speaker 1: and nearly killed me. I probably got stung forty times.
Speaker 1: I remember they threw me in a bathtub and threw
Speaker 1: ice on me because they were worried I was going
Speaker 1: to go into shock. So I've been there when you
Speaker 1: run into a pile of bees or hornets or whatever
Speaker 1: it was. But H Jr. Was clearly in some pain,
Speaker 1: and I guess he got stung around his legs, his ankles. Yes, Once,
Speaker 1: when I was little, my older brother there's a bee
Speaker 1: flying around sort of by my backside, and my older
Speaker 1: brother was like, just sit on it and you kill it.
Speaker 1: And so I sat on it and it stung me,
Speaker 1: and I was like, my mind on what it stung me?
Speaker 1: When I stepped on this bee hive, I was with
Speaker 1: a friend and my friend was faster than me, so
Speaker 1: Tom took off and these bees just crushed me, and
Speaker 1: I'm running and I'm I'm I'm running so hard. I
Speaker 1: was like rich eyes and running the forty and I
Speaker 1: wasn't going anywhere, and these guys are just you could
Speaker 1: just hear them buzzing by me, and they were angry
Speaker 1: and they couldn't get Tom, but they got me. And
Speaker 1: you know, once again, I took one for the team.
Speaker 1: It's like, you got to be faster than the slowest guy.
Speaker 1: So if we were ever chased by a bear, there
Speaker 1: we go. Chritzie wouldn't be the one who got caught.
Speaker 1: But I did go to Tom's house and his mom
Speaker 1: threw me in a bathtub. They just threw ice on
Speaker 1: me and then uh eventually took me to the hospital.
Speaker 1: But that's one of those where you're like, wow, that
Speaker 1: was a little different. Yes, this is not gonna make
Speaker 1: me sound cool. But I was extremely allergic to bees.
Speaker 1: Get carried an EpiPen. No, of course I did a double.
Speaker 1: I was also extremely I was extremely um asthmatic asmatic.
Speaker 1: So anyway, like I get to stop, I walked outside.
Speaker 1: It's sometimes he's preventively jack both ways. But there's nothing
Speaker 1: that's that's less cooler than you have your EpiPen and
Speaker 1: you have your inhaler. You know, you're just like, it's
Speaker 1: not a good look. Now you want to hide that thing.
Speaker 1: But just in case of emergency, you have to tell somebody, Hey,
Speaker 1: if I get stung, you know, here's my EpiPen. Yes, Paul,
Speaker 1: the upside of those things you never have girls bothering you,
Speaker 1: those ikey girls. This day in sports history, Paul, it's
Speaker 1: in Classic Dan. Nineteen eighty six, Walter Payton of the
Speaker 1: Bears became the first NFL player with twenty thousand total yards.
Speaker 1: Come on, okay, that's it. Uh, just to say the
Speaker 1: name two thousand and two. Ron tug Nutt one of
Speaker 1: my favorites things. Yeah used to call him back in
Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, first NHL goalie to win a game
Speaker 1: for seven different teams. Tug Nut Roun tug nut saw
Speaker 1: more rubber than he used tire salesman. I think I
Speaker 1: said that one night in a highlight. He saved like
Speaker 1: fifty six shots, and I just remember I was so
Speaker 1: fired up just because his name's Ron tug nut and
Speaker 1: I Ron tug Nutt, and he saw him more rubber
Speaker 1: than a used carse use tire sales or something. Like that,
Speaker 1: and I remember it might have been overman looking at
Speaker 1: me like what, like yeah, yeah, Paul, you and Keith
Speaker 1: used to get fired up with Hobby bulling Nikolai Hobby Buling, Yes,
Speaker 1: Nikolai Kbibulin, yes, m yeah you guys. Thro hockey was
Speaker 1: the best because you could tell you needed to spice
Speaker 1: it up to keep yourself involved, gone, just to kind
Speaker 1: of like stay awake, Ilka Cinisalo loves it, Petrie Screeko
Speaker 1: or something like then, and they were just all these names.
Speaker 1: I just I loved him, like hockey names the best.
Speaker 1: La Fontaine, Patti lat pat La Fountain. Um see anything else? Um? Oh, Todd,
Speaker 1: do you want to do your joke with Jared Smith
Speaker 1: stepping on the bees? Does that mean got all bees? Yeah?
Speaker 1: By the way, Ron talking about it was always in
Speaker 1: his crease, So that's why he would always get whistled.
Speaker 1: Ron tug met he was always in his creak. That
Speaker 1: was my other joke behind that one. Sometimes you just
Speaker 1: tap out. I mean that's how we end the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Philly inquired comments. Marcus Hey says Ben Simmons
Speaker 1: is living his life like he's a movie character with
Speaker 1: no accountability because he's the one writing the script. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he was. That was great appearance by Marcus mclovin.
Speaker 1: What did you learn? Here's a conversation that never happened
Speaker 1: with a teenager. Hey, let's make out. Hold on, let
Speaker 1: me get my inhaler first. Is that your epipan? Or
Speaker 1: you're happy to see me? Seetan O'Connor. What did you learn?
Speaker 1: Football is fun? Yesterday is according to Justin Herbert. H Paulie,
Speaker 1: it's the year of football is fun. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: we got to make a T shirt for Justin Herbert. Yes,
Speaker 1: you gotta get that dude to go out and enjoy LA. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, he's got plenty of time. He's only
Speaker 1: twenty three. How about he goes out when they have
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Pride Todd? What did I learn on
Speaker 1: today's award nominated program? Justin Herbert maybe considered a dual threat,
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Speaker 1: the dual threat his next opponent, Lamar Jackson. Yeah, that's
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