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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome inside the Jason Smith Show with my bess

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Speaker 1: friend Mike Harmon. I was of you. I was off

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Speaker 1: for a week. You're and now I'm back. Why are

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Speaker 1: you back? Because I tied vacation for a week. I

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Speaker 1: take a lot of vacation because I get a lot

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Speaker 1: of vacation. Take a lot of vacation because I get

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Speaker 1: a lot of vacation. I remember a radio hosts using

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Speaker 1: that one. Rack them. What's going on? Man, welcome back?

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Speaker 1: You show up? The Lakers didn't bother I know, well,

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Speaker 1: well so far, Yeah, I'm kind of JJ. Rederck is like, ah, guy,

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Speaker 1: I can't stand his back. And now we're losing by

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Speaker 1: thirteen Oklahoma City. Do you think your mere mention of

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Speaker 1: your name as returning tonight, seeing it on a schedule

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Speaker 1: that was disseminated across the innerwebs made him a bit

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Speaker 1: nervous of the hell you have throthed upon him. No,

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Speaker 1: I think it was I think it was more like this.

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Speaker 1: It was more the uh remember in Rocky four when

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Speaker 1: uh oh, no was it? Was it Rocky not Rocky four.

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Speaker 1: In Rocky when Duke tells Apollo he doesn't think it's

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Speaker 1: a he thinks it's a damn show. He doesn't know

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Speaker 1: it's a damn fight. Finishes bum and let's go home, right.

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, uh, I don't know if you know this, SGA,

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Speaker 1: but everybody's talking about Luca for MVP. Here is this

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Speaker 1: is a pretty big game here. I know you've had

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Speaker 1: some forty point games the last couple of weeks, but

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Speaker 1: Luke has been really on fire Man Who's gonna win

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Speaker 1: the MVP. So now as you see this Is and

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Speaker 1: the Thunder are just thumping the Lakers thirty one to fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Midway through the first quarter, lou Dord already three points

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Speaker 1: over his season average with three three pointers and eleven

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Speaker 1: points in the first quarter. At one point. I saw

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Speaker 1: the live in game padding got up to like fifteen

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Speaker 1: I mean the press clippings for all of Luca congratulations

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Speaker 1: on another player of the month, got some votes for

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Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Month. How about that? Six hundred

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Speaker 1: Wen Binyama. Hey, he's surge and he's got it two A.

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Speaker 1: To hell with it. I'm not gonna play against the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: Why would I want to do that. I want to

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Speaker 1: watch Luca versus SGA. I'm not gonna play. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you man that you know what I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't look a gift horse in the mouth for

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Speaker 1: a lot of things here. But I gotta say, getting

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Speaker 1: to the point now where we are with SGA, who

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Speaker 1: and and now Wemby's getting invited. This is a fun

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Speaker 1: just can we just have the playoffs already? Can we

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Speaker 1: just get to Yeah? You just have to play This

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Speaker 1: is kind of fun, man, I mean you you were out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you got the wire,

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Speaker 1: but I mean SGA got called for an offensive fall. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the body internet broke, I saw the whale tail and everything.

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Speaker 1: What the hell hell have frozen over? No question about it.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we pushed a lot of the Wemby

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Speaker 1: He needs a little bit of time. It's okay. It

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Speaker 1: takes some time to heal. Going down there. We're going

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Speaker 1: waller around. I mean, listen, you gotta get just sixty five, man,

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Speaker 1: say SGA has a big game tonight, right, He's got

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Speaker 1: you're the MVP. You are now eligible for postseason awards. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is outstanding. All a sudden, there's a guy playing

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Speaker 1: mean we need heroes now, man, you need heroes. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we need spider Mans. Just a spider Man, spider Man,

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Speaker 1: I had three incredible story You texted us on one

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Speaker 1: great Moncie. I would have texted you if you knew

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Speaker 1: not Sarah Lyne. So Opening Day for the Mets, right,

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Speaker 1: on The Cosby Show playing Saundra's boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: And he had a big resurgence to his career. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Not a whole lot of cosby getting me. Yeah, tough.

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Speaker 1: If they had residual parts to their contracts, they all

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Speaker 1: you got the best picture in baseball out of the game.

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Speaker 1: we're just talking about the Mets the whole time. It

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Speaker 1: your picture with him. Uh no, no, no we didn't.

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Speaker 1: I just want I was just a guy in there.

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Speaker 1: And this is how I know. This is how I

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Speaker 1: know that phones listened to us, is that Pam got

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this just came in on my phone.

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Speaker 1: oh my god. That's how we found out he was

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Speaker 1: There's so many great stories tonight, But I really we

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Speaker 1: away late to win sixty two forty eight. But because

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Speaker 1: of what you can hear about what's been going on

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Speaker 1: after the game, which is such delicious theater, I feel

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Speaker 1: if this was a dessert, it would be like one

427
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Speaker 1: of those places you go to where it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the biggest piece of chocolate cake you've ever gotten.

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Speaker 1: It's a forty five layer piece of chocolate cake. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's dig in, man, and it we gerrates every bite.

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Speaker 1: But let me just say this first thing about about

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Speaker 1: the game. It was not a great game. It was

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Speaker 1: not a great game to watch. It wasn't fun. It

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Speaker 1: was physical. There were not a lot of shots being

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Speaker 1: made by either team. Look when when your best players

436
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Speaker 1: at Yukon, when your two best players go seven to

437
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Speaker 1: thirty one from the floor, you're not gonna win games, right.

438
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Speaker 1: So it wasn't a great game. It wasn't one of

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Speaker 1: those artistic games. And you think about, boy, look at

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Speaker 1: this game Caitlin Clark had, look at this game the

441
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Speaker 1: Camilla Cardoso had. You're not gonna get that, right. We

442
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Speaker 1: didn't get that. It wasn't a great game. It was physical,

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00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 1: frustrating as hell for Yukon obviously, because they thought that

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Speaker 1: Gino the way he's talking the last few days with

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Speaker 1: all the different things, oh yeah yeah. Look, once a

446
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Speaker 1: year Gino Oriema gets the spotlight during the NCAA tournament.

447
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Speaker 1: He talks about the things he hates the most about

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Speaker 1: college basketball. Why are we doing this whole location thing? Okay,

449
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 1: that's great practice times everything else. I mean, you're advocating,

450
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Speaker 1: but at the same time you come off as well,

451
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Speaker 1: like today whining this is my time. But now this

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Speaker 1: is such a disaster for Connecticut because of what happened

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game. Now here's the play

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Speaker 1: by play of the end of the game. Now this

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Speaker 1: is clock ticking down. It's over sixty two forty eight

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Speaker 1: is your final call. The game's on ESPN, and the

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Speaker 1: the coaches are gonna shake hands like they normally do.

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Speaker 1: Two of the biggest coaches in the sport, Don Stalley,

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Speaker 1: Gino Oriema, and this is how the postgame handshake goes.

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Speaker 4: The one final.

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Speaker 2: Inbound here.

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Speaker 1: The officials will hold the players.

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Speaker 2: Now, Don and.

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Speaker 1: Gino getting into it a little bit on the sideline

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Speaker 1: as Gino has to be held back and Don and Gino.

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Speaker 1: That's part of what makes this rivalry such a compelling one.

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Speaker 3: As they exchanged words at center court, Gino.

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Speaker 1: Geno's Gino, Gino Gina not happy with what went on.

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Speaker 1: At some point you're gonna hear from Gino Ramonho's not

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Speaker 1: happy how the game was officiated. But before that, this

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Speaker 1: is where we start. The handshake was frosty, wasn't really

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Speaker 1: a handshake. They went, we walked over to each other

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Speaker 1: and right away they started going at it. If I

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Speaker 1: could read Don Staley's list, it looked like down Staley said, Gino,

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Speaker 1: I shook your hand. What are you talking about now?

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Speaker 1: Apparently after the game, Gino Oriema said that down Staley

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Speaker 1: didn't shake his hand before the game and that was

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Speaker 1: something that probably he stowed on the whole game. The

485
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Speaker 1: game didn't go his way and that's probably what was

486
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Speaker 1: at the crux of that frosty near fight at half

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Speaker 1: court following the game. So how do we know that

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Speaker 1: it might be about the handshake? Well, yeah, it's not

489
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Speaker 1: just me about reading Don Staley's lips. This is down

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Speaker 1: Staley just a couple of minutes after doing her on

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Speaker 1: court interview with Holly Row where she said, well, this

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Speaker 1: is what I think was the reason why Gino and

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Speaker 1: I went back and forth at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: Went wrong on the sideline right now. I have no idea,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna let you know this. I'm of integrity.

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Speaker 1: I'm of integrity. So if I did something wrong to Gino,

497
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Speaker 1: I had no idea what I did. I guess he going.

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Speaker 1: I didn't shake his hand at the beginning of the game.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I went down there at pre game

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Speaker 1: shook everybody on his staff. The game, Hey, sometimes days

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Speaker 1: get heated.

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Speaker 4: We moved on.

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Speaker 1: Captain Unger, captain over, captain over overdone. Technically I was

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Speaker 1: under Unger and you were overdone. I believe I was

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Speaker 1: under over and you were overdone. No, I believe I

506
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Speaker 1: was over over and you were under. So check the vector,

507
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Speaker 1: Victor and keep going on down the line. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: this is what we're looking at as the reason potentially

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Speaker 1: behind all of this. Now, this is why this is

510
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Speaker 1: beyond way beyond the box score, beyond the final score.

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Speaker 1: It's such a sweet victory for don Staley's gonna look

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Speaker 1: back at her career and they're gonna say, what were

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Speaker 1: what do you remember? And she's gonna remember this because

514
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: you just watch an absolute legendary coach lose his mind

515
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Speaker 1: in losing his perfect season, losing everything, losing a season

516
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Speaker 1: where you thought they were gonna steamroll the national title

517
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Speaker 1: because you beat them and it's not a national championship game.

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Speaker 1: And Dawn Stelley knows a thing or two about winning

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Speaker 1: national titles. But this has gotta be such a sweet

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Speaker 1: moment because Gino, who is incredibly polarizing, incredibly polarizing. You

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Speaker 1: can love and hate him on different days. Right, There's

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Speaker 1: days I see Gino talking, I love the guy. And

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Speaker 1: there's days I see Gino Orienta talking, I go, what

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Speaker 1: the hell are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: He is absolutely polarizing from day to day. Dawn Staley

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Speaker 1: has carried herself publicly with nothing but class. For the obviously,

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Speaker 1: do I know everything? About her life, no, but publicly

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Speaker 1: and what she's done on the court, she is viewed

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Speaker 1: very classy. She's always carried herself very classy. When they

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Speaker 1: won last year or two years ago, when she thanked

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark for bringing the attention to college basketball at

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Speaker 1: the You know, that's an easy thing to do when

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Speaker 1: you win, and I get that, but still to take

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Speaker 1: a moment where we win and acknowledge her and what

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Speaker 1: she's done for the sport, that's a pretty classy move.

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Speaker 1: And so this she's gonna come out. Nothing's smelling like

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Speaker 1: a rose on this, and Gino's gonna come out. Look

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Speaker 1: at you are bitter and you lost your mind at

541
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Speaker 1: the end of the game because you lost a game

542
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Speaker 1: like this. You're supposed to be better than this. And

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Speaker 1: that's all that. It's gonna happen for ginal Orima in

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Speaker 1: the next twenty four to forty one. When you read

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Speaker 1: your press clippings for a while, you're getting ready for

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Speaker 1: the next era of dominance. Right, because we remember when

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Speaker 1: we you and I were first getting together on air.

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Speaker 1: It's national title. It's national title, it's national title for Yukon. Right,

549
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: we had Stewie on what twice like the turrent Caravan

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Speaker 1: or the most decorated collegiate athletes to work with us

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Speaker 1: here at Fox Sports Radio. But you're talking about all

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Speaker 1: of those run and then now you're talking about a

553
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: series of near misses, a bunch of final fours, but

554
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: not getting over last year they get the title here,

555
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: they're running rough shot over everybody. It's gonna be easy.

556
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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you got punched in

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Speaker 1: the mouth repeatedly. And someone will have the subruder film

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Speaker 1: from the pregame, Hey, do we have any of the

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Speaker 1: b roll on what was going on? You know when

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Speaker 1: they were shaking hands before everything got gone, Because when

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Speaker 1: they met up, what was it at the point one

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Speaker 1: second right that last inbound and they had their little exchange.

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Speaker 1: The lip reading from the geno side of it looked like,

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Speaker 1: oh now you can shake my hand right good before

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. So exacerbating that, And we'll get into

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Speaker 1: his meltdown in game when he met with Holly Row

567
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Speaker 1: and the look on her face as he just starts

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Speaker 1: railing and cursing and whatever else. But for for Don

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00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: stale Iman, six straight final fours, you talk about, you

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00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: know the way this and style that they play with,

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Speaker 1: the consistency they play with, the way players that have

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Speaker 1: gone through that program and have worked with her speak

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Speaker 1: about her. Not that Gino doesn't have a million of those, right,

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Speaker 1: Remember you know the end of page Becker's run and

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Speaker 1: everything else. I mean some of those women's college basketball

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Speaker 1: let's understand he's done that. Of course, when the bad

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Speaker 1: summit and now you know, Dawn Staley's saying, I've got

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Speaker 1: this seat at the table and we're running running here.

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Speaker 1: But for Gino, yeah, this is the Southwest Airlines. The

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Speaker 1: old ads have want to get away moments because everything

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Speaker 1: you had done, everything you had done, and everything you'd built.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm seeing him, Ai baby Gino running across the

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Speaker 1: internet now after his tie rades and every time, you know,

584
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: he looked like Carl Fredrickson from up. He get frustrated

585
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: with Russell. Did someone find a snipe under his house?

586
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: Found a snipe under your house? Hello, my name is Russell.

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00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: You lost to South Carolina. Your two best players went

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Speaker 1: seven for thirty one from the floor. I found a

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00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: snipe under your house. Yeah, but this adventure is out there, right,

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Speaker 1: But I mean, but this is this is the one

591
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: of those times where you go, someone who has built

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Speaker 1: a thirty plus year career is seeing so much of

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Speaker 1: that good be undone by one moment one game and

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00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: his behavior because it's ridiculous, right, it's this is this

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00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: is not a guy that's coached one game and as

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00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, figure things out, he's a rookie coach, and

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00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how things go, like just the fact

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Speaker 1: to melt down like that when Okay, yeah, I know

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00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: that you are the big favorite, but you've won big games,

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Speaker 1: you've lost big games. You're supposed to be a better

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00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: pro than that. You're supposed to be better than that.

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00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: And there's nothing that will tell you about this, even

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Speaker 1: more than Gino's own words, because you know he was

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00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: cooking against Dawn Staley during the game because he was

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Speaker 1: not happy with the way the game was being officiated.

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Speaker 1: Here's his interview with Holly Rowe after the third quarter,

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Speaker 1: in which Geno just lets loose on everyone that's to

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Speaker 1: blame for Yukon falling behind and potentially losing this game. Well, coach,

609
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: a kind of wild turn of events. Sarah Strong's jersey

610
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: is split right down the middle. I saw you speaking

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Speaker 1: to the reps about it. What message did you try

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Speaker 1: to convey here?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: There were six pounds called that quarter, all of them

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00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 5: against us, and they've been beating it out of our

616
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 5: guys down already.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm not making excuses because we haven't been able to

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Speaker 5: make a shot, but this is ridiculous. Their coach Ransom

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Speaker 5: raves on the sideline and calls the referee some names

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Speaker 5: you don't want to hear. And now when we get

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Speaker 5: six to zero and I got a kid with a

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Speaker 5: rip jersey and they go, I didn't see any Come on, man,

624
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 5: that's national championship.

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Speaker 1: GINO. Just want to let you know there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of video out there of Sarah Strong ripping her own

627
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: jersey in frustration, and she had to change and put

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Speaker 1: a new jersey on because you can't plame other rip jersey.

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Speaker 1: There's video of her ripping the jersey herself, just so

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Speaker 1: you know. Oh yeah, yeah, rip jersey. And oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, you cursed Holly Row, GINO, Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: you can't curse in Holly Row like that. You kid

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Speaker 1: to me, I could come on, man, that's rights. Have

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00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: you ever heard any with anybody say anything unkind? She

635
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: is held up on the highest of levels in our business.

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Speaker 1: And there Holly row is the Dawn Stanley of Sideline

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Speaker 1: with Sarah Strong. Did she did she cut it a

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Speaker 1: little so she could hold Cogan that thing in a

639
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Speaker 1: big moment. Hey, no, I was impressed with that, brother,

640
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Speaker 1: what because you know, the yoke of the jersey is

641
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Speaker 1: really protected, like to have to do that, there's some

642
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Speaker 1: hands the neck line. But I mean just to listen

643
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: to him say, and the other coach is saying, is

644
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Speaker 1: calling the referees dames, you don't want to hear oh

645
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Speaker 1: my virgin ears. Dude, she's coaching, she's coaching, and if

646
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Speaker 1: she's getting away with it, Okay, Gina, you've never ridden

647
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: the referees. You never said stuff, you never dot Like

648
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, oh, oh so Dawn

649
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: Staley is just completely out of No, dude, you're the

650
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: one that seems like you're out of control. Like this

651
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Speaker 1: is a going to the fourth quarter interview where it

652
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: should be okay, hey, everybody, we are one quarter away

653
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: from losing everything we have worked for. But instead, yeah,

654
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Speaker 1: I'm doing the interview and I'm gonna absolutely bash down

655
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: Staley and absolutely bash the referees. I'm like, wow, like

656
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: like he should be better than that, right, he should

657
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: be better not to I want to tell him how

658
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: to feel because if you don't like the way the

659
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: game is a fish because it was a little too

660
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Speaker 1: well it Yeah, one hundred percent, it was too rough.

661
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: But again Gino says, we couldn't make a shot, Yes,

662
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Right, it wasn't a two point game.

663
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Speaker 1: Wasn't a one point game. You lost by fourteen. You

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Speaker 1: two best players were Tell okay, I mean you can't

665
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: cut up any more than that. But overall, I want

666
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: to say, you look like a guy. That is that

667
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: you would say, hey, here's an older guy who's losing

668
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: his mind on the sideline, right, that's kind of what

669
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: he looked like. And that's a bad optic to put

670
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: out there that in the middle of a game you

671
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Speaker 1: lose it like that, like you're still supposed to be coaching.

672
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Speaker 1: I mean maybe at Yukon, maybe there's some kind of

673
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: stuff in the water at Yukon where hey, the head

674
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: coaches just do whatever the hell they want to. Man,

675
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: we don't care. We just dude, we got we want

676
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: to see across the lineup right, the mount rushmore going

677
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: on there at LSU, and then we had the Yukon

678
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: coaches that are in a whole other stratosphere by himself.

679
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: You don't know what they put in the power raided stores. Man,

680
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: this is just it's just great. But I mean, I

681
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: give the squad credit, right Heckele misses that lay up

682
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: down this ret and she just burst into tears like

683
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: every one of the teammatesank, chin up, chin up. We

684
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: had a year kind of thing. But watching Gino lose

685
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: his mind, like here's where you want the ISO from

686
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: the full forty Yeah, but at the end of the

687
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: third quarter, like yelling like that, the officials are suddenly

688
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: gonna change the way they play. They called the game.

689
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: You and I were talking a little bit as we're

690
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: prepping in for the show and watching some of the

691
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: replays of the post. It's like, these are like the

692
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: NFL squads where defensive backs go back a decade, legion,

693
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: a boom and all that. They're gonna see how the

694
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Speaker 1: officials are gonna call this game. And that's exactly what

695
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: South Carolina did. All Right, we're gonna body you up.

696
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: If they're gonna call files Okay, we'll change what we

697
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: need to guess what they didn't and you didn't match

698
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: the physicality, and then you had wide open looks and

699
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: you missed every last one of them. Your star players

700
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: were absolutely ineffective from pillar to post and gotten shrunk

701
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: by the minute. And that end of the third quarter,

702
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: I want the shot for the other side of what

703
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: that huddle's looking at him as he's in that interview

704
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: instead of being in with them, because I know you

705
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: got your contractually obligated as part of the broadcast that

706
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: you got to do that. And I'm sure they've seen

707
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: Gino do this before. But third quarter, you're still in

708
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: this game, right, It's not like you're getting this isn't

709
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: you know JJ Reddick after a third quarter yesterday against OKC.

710
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: This is you're still in the midst of a game.

711
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: I think I should have taken Luca out of the game,

712
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: but I don't know you think I said, But you

713
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: know I get I get the end of game part

714
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: of it. If it's Gino saying, hey, I'll take all

715
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: the arrows because I feel bad for Sarah Strong and

716
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: as He Fudd and these players who have been amazing

717
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: for four years and have their careers and like this,

718
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: I'll take the attention so they can kind of lick

719
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: their wounds privately and and and say, okay, you know, hey,

720
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: this did not end this and came to a screeching

721
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: halt for us, and how do I deal with this?

722
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: And you don't want to do that so publicly all

723
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: the time. So I get that part of it. But

724
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: this was like during the game. I mean, when when

725
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: you're absolutely out of control and all of a sudden,

726
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: the image and the opticcause Geno or him it's like, dude,

727
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: are you okay?

728
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Speaker 3: Do you?

729
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not your first time coaching, Like

730
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: that's why this was such an epic fail for you,

731
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: because it's not just we lost a game. We were

732
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: an undefeated team. We lost a game and our coach

733
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: lost his mind. And I don't know what went on

734
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: during the game, was that there's stuff that wasn't taken

735
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: care of that that maybe things would have been better

736
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: were they in the right place mentally in the second

737
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: half to be able to go through this, because you

738
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: got to player rippin her jersey and Gino's going like, hey, WHOA,

739
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: someone's got to be the adult around here, because you

740
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: can't win when your emotions are completely out of control

741
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: that way, you're missing layups, all the basic things that

742
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: you've executed all season long. And give South Carolina credit,

743
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: they beat him up and took them out of their game.

744
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: But the whole thing about being a championship squad and

745
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: the pedigree that you've shown all these years. Look, you've

746
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: lost games, right, You've lost games as a favorite seven

747
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. By the way, how do

748
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: those furniture deals work out of this? Jason, that's the question.

749
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody ever loses that furniture. And I

750
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: think no matter what happened to get a free meeting

751
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: on I mean, I know obviously the books are happening

752
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: at everybody. I think the people either get the furniture

753
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: or they don't spend any money, and the guy at

754
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: the furniture store either keeps the furnit or insurance whatever

755
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: money for each I think everybody win. I don't think

756
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: there's any losers in the in the furniture. It's a

757
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: three card games. It's just you're in on it. Yeah yeah, yeah,

758
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: you're in on the ruse and then you push up

759
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: the next guy. You should try this. It's easy exit

760
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: O vuta fresca exit swelling do. I mean, she's won

761
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: national titles, but this is going to wind up being

762
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: the sweetest win of Dawn Staley's career and one of

763
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: the most epic fails. I mean, maybe the biggest epic

764
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: fail for Gino Orim and Yukon, not just because they

765
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: lost the game.

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00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

767
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven

768
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Joining us down the hot line proud stand for grad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

771
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: Also Andrew Luck sound alike who could do interviews as

772
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. He's been wing on this for the last

773
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: few years. Long time front of the show. He is

774
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: a Hall of Very Good voter as well. Check him

775
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: out on the thirty third team. He is Jason Cole

776
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: Call what's happening?

777
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: Man? You guys have to bring that up because like

778
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 3: I had this big plan that Andrew Luck was going

779
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: to win a Super Bowl or two and that I

780
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: was going to make all this money as his voice

781
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: stoppel ganger.

782
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: Like you'd be doing the audiobook for him and everything.

783
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: Yes, No, it's just everything voiceovers for you know, like

784
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: anything that he could possibly do. That was my retirement plan.

785
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: Jason Cole reads Captain Andrew Luck tweets like that would

786
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: have been good. Yea, that was what I was going

787
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: to do.

788
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: So tell me the story that because I haven't seen this.

789
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, first of all, I think you can sue

790
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck for wages not gotten. No, I think there's

791
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: the way you can do.

792
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 3: I can't because I actually like Andrew. We're friends. So yeah,

793
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: well yeah, I can't do that.

794
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: But if if in one hand, you have your friendship.

795
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 3: I already told him I'm pissed at him. All right, Okay, Okay,

796
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: in one.

797
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: Hand you have your friendship with Andrew Luck. In the other,

798
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: you could have fifteen million dollars. So Eric Ebron, we

799
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: played the you. I don't know if you heard it,

800
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: as our producer Ian was dialing you out. But Eric

801
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: Ebron did an interview today on the podcast saying the

802
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: real reason behind Andrew Luck's retirement was Chris Ballard, coach GM,

803
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: daring him to retire when Andrew Luck talked about not

804
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: being so healthy and questioning where he's at right now

805
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: in his career. We'll play the audio for you again

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00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: because it's absolutely outstanding again.

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00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 6: Andrew then deicized that he's so tired of he don't

808
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 6: tell nobody this. This is the backstory. He's so tired

809
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 6: of injury and he just doesn't want to do a surgery.

810
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 6: You know who the man is around there that gets

811
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 6: on everybody's nerves. Big drums over there behind that disc.

812
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 6: He tells Andrew, this is word, bro. He tells, Andrew,

813
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 6: you're either.

814
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: Playing this year or we're moving on. Who the would

815
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: tell Andrew? Lock that right? Jason Cole analysis.

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00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: I'm texting. I'm texting answer right now.

817
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: Is this true? Is this true?

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00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: I'm all I've almost done with this.

819
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you gotta type faster, man, you gotta

820
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: take you gotta take typing classes. Click click click click click.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if we'll see if he responds to say

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00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: he's got like eight minutes to respond, he responds, if

823
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: he responds during this.

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Speaker 1: I like you, I'm on the the air with these knuckleheads.

825
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I want to think, Jason, I

826
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: want to think this story is not true, just because wow,

827
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: that's like the worst thing you could do, is a

828
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: general manager.

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Speaker 3: It's insanity, Like it's just it's just. I mean, it's

830
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: one of the most idiotic MACHOs things you could ever

831
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Speaker 3: imagine doing. You don't you just don't take on You

832
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: don't take on guys who on the line for you.

833
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: And Andrew Luck. You can say anything you want about

834
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: Andrew Luck. Okay, you know that he maybe quit too

835
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 3: early and didn't fight through it, and you know, maybe

836
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 3: sure to put and given it. I mean, that's that's all.

837
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Speaker 3: That's all fine, Okay, But I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Nola

838
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: mcplane just lost his perfect game. So but but like

839
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: the amount of stupidity that he put up with bad

840
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: offensive systems and him having to run through people and

841
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: him you know, going out and tackling people out after interceptions,

842
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 3: which again wasn't always wise, right. I mean, the man,

843
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: the man put his body on the line, you know,

844
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 3: and he was a pure football player, And to say

845
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: that to him, I would just I would have fired

846
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: him on the spot if I knew that it was true.

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Speaker 3: I would I just if I I was junior saying

848
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Speaker 3: I heard that got back to me, I would just said, Andrew,

849
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: I apologize, I apologize for Chris Baligan. I'm firing him

850
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: right now.

851
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: Well, because they pivoted Jacoby Burssett and Brian Hoyer than

852
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers.

853
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 4: Well, just like this is now.

854
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: Look you can say to people, I need more. Like

855
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: Rick Spielman once said to Lamar Thomas, and I remember

856
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: this distinctly. Lamar Thomas, who you know most people won't

857
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: won't remember wide receiver played for the Dolphins, you know,

858
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: you know, sort of a just kind of a journeyman career, right,

859
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 3: And so he went over the middle in a in

860
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: a preseason game and he went up and he almost

861
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: made a catch and he's coming down and so he's

862
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: coming off the field and they've been talking about a

863
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: new contract that year, and Rix Bielman said, look, if

864
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 3: you want a new contract, you have to catch balls

865
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: like that. And that's that's being truthful with a guy

866
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: that's not challenging his manhood. It's just telling him the

867
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: truth about this is how the league works. But there's

868
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: a difference when you have a guy who's you know,

869
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: playing hurt is your quarterback you invested so much in

870
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: with the number one overall pick. I mean, like to

871
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: say that to him would be pure insanity. So I

872
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: hope it's not true because you know, like Chris Ballard

873
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: never deserves to be an executive again, if that's true.

874
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: I mean, look like I would never hire a guy

875
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 3: who you talked that like that to a player. Double play.

876
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: That's their retired here.

877
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: But like I'm not watching the game here in studio.

878
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: By the way, he's doing the story like he's Harry Carey,

879
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: and you know I would fire him on the spot.

880
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: Head there's a groundball double play.

881
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: I grew. I grew up on Vin Scully, but I

882
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 3: have an appreciation for Harry Carrick. Ok, they're very different announcers,

883
00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: just like that.

884
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: But I gotta say this. Listen, you know I love

885
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: what you say. Hey wait wait wait, I know I

886
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: love what you say in the show, and I want

887
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: you to say more. But you have to check your

888
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: phone right now and see if Andrew Luck has texted

889
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: you in the last three minutes. You gotta check it.

890
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: Well, no, I have it right in front of me,

891
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: just waiting for it to happen, so don't worry.

892
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: So you have two phones, so you're like Walter White,

893
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: you gotta you got to interviews and a regular phone.

894
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: Well now it has Luck has notifications.

895
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: What wait, so so give j Cole your your hot

896
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: take theory about the Raiders. Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, So

897
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this, after that crazy ass contract

898
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: that they gave Kirk Cousins a day ago, Are we

899
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: sure they're gonna draft for Nando Mendoza? Are we sure?

900
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: Because you know Raiders? Are we sure they're gonna draft

901
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: for Nando Mendoza?

902
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's there's some doubt there that whether Kirk

903
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 3: can play right, like, can Kirk actually play anymore?

904
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: Are you are you?

905
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: Are you telling me that you're going to hitch your

906
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: wagon the future your franchise after you just traded for

907
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: Gina Smith the year before, Now you're going to go

908
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: to Kirk Cousins after how he played last year?

909
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the opportunity is there then to get

910
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: one of these quote unquote generational quarterbacks next year? And

911
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: and why you're going to stink anyway? And why are

912
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: you signing why are you signing Kirk Cousins that you?

913
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I live in the real world, j Cole,

914
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: and I know that people make decisions in March and

915
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: April that are stupid because when the first week of

916
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: the season comes, your number one overall pick is going

917
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: to be playing quarterbacks.

918
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 3: You no, no, no, that's not because you live in

919
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: the real world. That's not it. But you know that

920
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: people make stupid decisions in March and April.

921
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because I'm a Jet fan. Okay, all right,

922
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. But it doesn't matter. Mean, when you're

923
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback and you're a pick number one overall, you

924
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: are starting from week one. That's why this this whole

925
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, of course he is no no, no,

926
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: not that they can wait a seconds.

927
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 3: Wait a second, Okay. I mean, look, I'm a big

928
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: believer in playing quarterbacks early if you can, don't don't

929
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: get me wrong, right, but and I would rather plan

930
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: him earlier than than not. But if you can't protect

931
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: the guy, let somebody else go take the lumps for him.

932
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: So I do think that I overwhelmingly believe this is

933
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: a one year and outfield. But they had Here's the thing,

934
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 3: the Raiders have a ton of money to spend and

935
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: the and here's the other I shall I say it,

936
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 3: The dirty little secret of the NFL right now is

937
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: that teams are have so much cap money that they

938
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 3: don't even know how to spend it right now, Like

939
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: they're a wash in cap money because the nfl TA

940
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: didn't set the minimum contracts high enough to keep pace

941
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: with where they where or the cap is. And what's

942
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: going to happen to the players in a couple of years,

943
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: and I know that most fans couldn't give less of

944
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: a darn about this is that is that the owners

945
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: are going to demand that they take less money because

946
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 3: they're going to be tired of overpaying these guys, especially

947
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: the mediocre guys, have been making money the last couple

948
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 3: of years, like you know, the center that the Raiders

949
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: assigned that they overpaid by, you know, almost double. So

950
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: when when that starts to happen, there's gonna be a

951
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: big shift and there's gonna be a big war about it, unless,

952
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: of course, the union just kind of folds, which there

953
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: is a good chance that this union with this new

954
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: leadership could fold and not and not really not really

955
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: take the owners to the map, because I don't think

956
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: they have a strategy. But that's one of the things.

957
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: So in a certain sense, you have you're a wash

958
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: in money to go get cousins to go out and

959
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: take a bunch of lumps for you, Like you're sitting

960
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: here saying Look, there's a good chance you're going to

961
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: play and cousin is going. You mean, I'm gonna go

962
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: get killed this year so that Mendoza doesn't get killed,

963
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 3: you better pay me, right, So that's that's part of

964
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: the deal.

965
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is,

966
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: at Jason Cole sixty two. Have you gotten a text

967
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: from Andrew?

968
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: Luck? I thought we were going this for eighteen minutes.

969
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: You've only been to eleven. But I guess you guys

970
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: are just men. You don't want you don't want to

971
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: break news. We have to fight.

972
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: Did did he text you?

973
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: Hold on sick?

974
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: Do you want him? Why do? Why don't we go

975
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: to Steve and then Jacob can hang out a minute?

976
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: No? No, he hasn't take How about this, I'll make

977
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 3: a deal since I think he's probably gotten enough messages

978
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 3: about this tonight a bunch of friends. Okay, So it's

979
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: just a wild guess that he has turned his phone

980
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: off and is not answering this question tonight. Okay, But

981
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: somewhere along the line I made Look, I'm in California

982
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 3: to you know for the next few days. In fact,

983
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in La next week.

984
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: Oh, you got to get your you gotta get your

985
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: yearly sandwich with us.

986
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: I do, and except I can't do it on Thursday. Well,

987
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 3: actually I don't think I can, well unless I do

988
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: it late on Wednesday. Maybe maybe late. Well I'm Thursday,

989
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to see Springsteen, and Friday, I'm having dinner

990
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: with all my college buddies. So like, you know, like

991
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 3: that's you know, I'm not. Yeah, so it has to

992
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: be Wednesday, and it has to be late on Wednesday.

993
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 3: But I'll have my wife with me, and you know

994
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 3: she she falls to your show all the time.

995
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: Okay, so Wednesday works then, and I make it. But

996
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: I make this other deal with you as well. If

997
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck texts you back tonight, you have to call

998
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: back and tell us what he says.

999
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: I will.

1000
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 4: I will do that.

1001
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: Okay, he text me back. But again, I have this

1002
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: just this gut feeling that once that went out from Ebron,

1003
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: that Andrews shut it down. He's like, yeah, I don't

1004
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 3: want to get in the middle of that mess.

1005
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: But justice stealing. But Justice Billy.

1006
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: I could drive up and go. I can go find

1007
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 3: him in his house, or I can go find him

1008
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: on campus. Tomorrow and I can get to the bottom

1009
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: of this story.

1010
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: Like Wimpy and Popeye. I will gladly buy you a

1011
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: sandwich Wednesday for an Andrew Luck text today. All right,

1012
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: just so you know you can call it.

1013
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: I dig that, all right, A lot of silence.

1014
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: We'll see you next, Jacob.

1015
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: There you go.

1016
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

1017
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

1018
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

1019
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: Nobody better to break it all down with right now

1020
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: than longtime NBA insider friend of the show Mark Stein.

1021
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: Check him out on substack. He is on Twitter at

1022
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: the Stein Line. He's had great stuff today on the

1023
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: Luka Doncic injury and the Yannest situation that now makes

1024
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: me think that he's absolutely gone in the offseason. We

1025
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: did this story a few minutes ago. Mark Stein joins us. Now, Mark,

1026
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: what's happening? Happy Friday? Gentle dominating. I'm I don't know.

1027
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm not doing as well as Cooper Flagg, but then again,

1028
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: out of the many of us were doing that fair.

1029
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 4: You certainly weren't at nineteen.

1030
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: No, this is true.

1031
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: There it is.

1032
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: There's a walk up line that was Mark Stein, everybody

1033
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: trying to think back to nineteen uh you know, and

1034
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: you know I was thinking about you today when I

1035
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: saw ESPN had the straw pole of where the votes

1036
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: seem to lie right now for Rookie of the Year

1037
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: and NBA MVP right and Shake Gildess. Alexander seems like

1038
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: he has a pretty big lead and the Kan Kannepel

1039
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: lead is just baffling to me because you know, with

1040
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: this story that's been being debated the last few weeks

1041
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: with Kannepel and Flag and Kannepel and Flag, I just

1042
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: keep going back to the conversation we had a few

1043
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: weeks ago where you said, listen, nobody has the responsibility

1044
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: on their plate that Cooper Flag does. kN Kannepl's great,

1045
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: he's having a terrific year, the threes are great, but

1046
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: he's not doing nearly what Cooper Flagg has been asked

1047
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: to do with Dallas. And it really shocks me that

1048
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: that this is the type of straw pole lead that

1049
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: Kanneple has right now now over Cooper Flag.

1050
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: It doesn't shock me because he's got a great story

1051
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: and look, this is zero percent Cooper Flag's fault. But

1052
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 4: unfortunately for him, since the moment he's been drafted. You know,

1053
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: he was drafted three months in change after the worst

1054
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 4: trade in NBA history, And throughout his rookie season, even

1055
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 4: though zero of it is of Cooper Flag's making, he's

1056
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 4: had to watch his team, the team that drafted him,

1057
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 4: has just been engulfed in chaos. The season started with

1058
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 4: fire Nico Chance eleven games into his NBA career, he

1059
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 4: had three GMS because they fired Nico Harrison and replaced

1060
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 4: him with two interim GMS. It's just been one thing

1061
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: after another. What I love about Cooper Flag most of

1062
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: all this season, he just keeps playing. He just plays

1063
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 4: and plays and plays. He's not worried about straw Pole,

1064
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 4: He's not worried about Conkinipple's apparent lead in the Rookie

1065
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: of the Year voting. I love that this guy just

1066
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 4: puts his head down, keeps playing. Tonight, we were headed

1067
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 4: for another, you know, unsightly blowout, and he got hot.

1068
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: The crowd was going crazy, and you know, he produced

1069
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 4: a fifty one point game and then after the game said,

1070
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 4: I'm I'm only gonna get so excited about this because

1071
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 4: we lost. I can't sit here and celebrate that much

1072
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 4: he wants to win. This has been more losing than

1073
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 4: he's dealt with in his whole life.

1074
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: But he is just.

1075
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 4: A tremendous pro already and a very good player already.

1076
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 4: But look, Charlotte has the longest playoff drought in the

1077
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 4: league and Continipple has been a huge part of their turnaround.

1078
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 4: So Kank Nipple has his own great statistical resume and

1079
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 4: a good story, and that's clearly swaying a lot of voters.

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00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: Well, they can always find consolation to each other that

1081
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: they couldn't get John Schier over last year. But all

1082
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: of that said, we're talking Cooper Flagg. Let's talk about

1083
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: the guy he replaced in Dallas having a hell of

1084
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: a run of his own until he pulls up last night. Okay,

1085
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: see Suns the Lakers. But now Luca may be done

1086
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: for the year, and a lot of those conversations we

1087
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 1: were having got resurrected about his health and everything else.

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00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: Mark Now, it's awful, It's absolutely awful. He was the

1089
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 4: I mean he just literally This injury happened hours after

1090
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 4: he was named Player of the Month for March. Go

1091
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 4: look at his March numbers. They're spectacular. The Lakers were

1092
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: fifteen into I mean, he is carrying this team to

1093
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: the third seed. And just the I mean the hamstring

1094
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: was an issue in the second quarter, like why the

1095
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: game was gone? Why did he have to play in

1096
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 4: the second half? And it's just this is a very

1097
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 4: serious injury, grade two hamstring. The history of grade two

1098
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 4: hamstrings is not encouraging. I mean, look, Peyton Watson in

1099
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: Denver missed nearly fifty days with a grade two hamstring

1100
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 4: strain earlier in the season, came back, he's reaggravated it,

1101
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: and you know now he's weak to week again. So yeah, this,

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00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 4: I mean, the Lakers were looking like they were gonna

1103
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 4: be the third seed and the team a team that

1104
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 4: really nobody wanted to play because Luca Reeves and Lebron

1105
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 4: at their best can cause you a lot of problems.

1106
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 4: And now I'm sure the Minnesota Timberwolves, who have dropped

1107
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 4: to sixth, if I'm not miss and you guys can

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00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 4: back me up there, I think the wolf haven't. The

1109
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 4: Wolves dropped to six now, they would love if it

1110
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 4: stays this way because they would have been confident against

1111
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 4: the Lakers anyway after what happened last season. But you

1112
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 4: want the Lakers to hang on to the third seed

1113
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 4: if you're Minnesota, because Lucas Lakers are gonna they're gonna

1114
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: be very vulnerable, you know.

1115
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: And the flip side of this mark just to think

1116
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: about this for a second, you know, not not that

1117
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: Nico Harrison has a lot to stand up and say, hey,

1118
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: wait a minute, but like you can see a little

1119
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: bit of because Dallas talked about you No, what I'm

1120
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 1: saying is you can concern but listen, I'm not saying

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00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: it was a great idea, but what when you see

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00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: that the concern for the Mavericks a little bit was Okay,

1123
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: if we're going to sign Luca to this long term contract,

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00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: his long term health is something that was a concern.

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00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: And and this is you know, this is the It's

1126
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: obviously it's terrible. Right Luca was having an MVP type run.

1127
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: It was awesome, but his long term health is is

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00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: a thing and it's gonna be something that the Lakers

1129
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: have deal with that the Mavericks would have had to

1130
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: deal with. If you if you have him long term,

1131
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: is it his long term health and some is something

1132
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: that is is going to be a thing for Luka doncic.

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00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 4: I that's a strong disagree for me. Look, we don't

1134
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 4: we don't know what all went into this injury. He

1135
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: has had the hamstring issue he had he had it

1136
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 4: to a degree in February before the All Star Game.

1137
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, I'm still taking my chances

1138
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 4: with Luka Doncic. And you know, again, I I wonder

1139
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 4: was this preventable because there were signals early in the

1140
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 4: second half, you know, in this first half of that game. O, sure, yeah,

1141
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 4: and and and so you know, I there they they

1142
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 4: will be building around him, and you know, I think

1143
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: this obviously is going to be a disappointment in the

1144
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: short term, but you know, he's gotten himself in tremendous

1145
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 4: shape this season and was having an MVP caliber season.

1146
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, a longtime NBA insider, our guy Mark

1147
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: Stein with us at the Steinline, where you find him

1148
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: in the Twitter verse. Mark Stein dot substack dot com.

1149
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: Subscribe and read his work there, joins us on the program.

1150
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: We appreciate stopping by late here on a Friday, as

1151
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: we rep a big Friday in the NBA. But we're

1152
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: talking about Luca the MVP conversation. Now there's some trying

1153
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: to figure out what the potential would be to appeal

1154
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: for a couple of the games back to count towards

1155
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: his eligibility. We'd seen the same with Cad Cunningham. But

1156
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: barring something really strange over these next five games, it's

1157
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: Shay Gilgess Alexander's award.

1158
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, it sure looks like it, especially if

1159
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 4: you follow that straphole and you know Jokic is in

1160
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 4: there too. I mean, I mean know Sga, Jokic, Wemby

1161
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 4: and Luca all have a case. There are four worthy

1162
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: MVP contenders. And I would have had Caid in the

1163
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 4: argument as well if he didn't have this terrible luck

1164
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 4: with a collapse Lung you know, Dancage their camp will

1165
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 4: appeal it, and I've been told they've got probably a

1166
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: puncher's chance at succeeding, because he did miss two games

1167
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 4: to fly all the way to Europe in the middle

1168
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 4: of the season for the birth of his second child

1169
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 4: and made it back pretty fast and played immediately, and

1170
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: I think it was in Philly if I'm not mistaken,

1171
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 4: you know, on a really tight turnaround. But I think

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00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 4: there's probably also some concern on the league's part that

1173
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: if you grant this exception. Will it encourage numerous protests

1174
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 4: of the sixty.

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00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: Five game rule.

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00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 4: But look, there's a lot of there's just a lot

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00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 4: of unhappiness with a sixty five game rule because Thursday,

1178
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 4: Cad and Aunt and Luca basically we lost all of

1179
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 4: them from MVP and all NBA races. But beyond that,

1180
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 4: like I wrote about this today, six of the ten

1181
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 4: highest paid players in the league this season, on top

1182
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 4: of those three guys are are short of sixty five games.

1183
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to remember them all. I'm driving in

1184
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 4: the rain. Let's see if I can remember them all.

1185
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 4: Embiid Y Honest, Butler and Curry and Golden State and

1186
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 4: who are my other two? I'm missing.

1187
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: Jazz, Butler, Curry.

1188
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 4: I can't remember it now.

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00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: You're just gonna have to vote for Jalen Brunson. Don't

1190
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: do that.

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00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: What are you doing that list? That list stretches to

1192
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 4: seven if Jo misses one more game. Yeah, like I said,

1193
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 4: I can't recite the whole list you because I'm driving

1194
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 4: and I don't have it memorized. But six of the

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00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 4: top ten players, six of the top ten highest paid

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00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 4: players in the league this season have all fallen short

1197
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 4: of sixty five games, and that does not include Cade

1198
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 4: and Luca. They're not in the top ten in terms

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00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 4: of highest paid.

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00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: Now might not make it, Booker, might not make it.

1201
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: Like there's a couple of there's the whole thing marked

1202
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: go ahead.

1203
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's I mean, this is this is gonna

1204
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 4: be you know, Adam Silver said last week at the

1205
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 4: Board of Governors meetings, the league thinks it is working.

1206
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 4: But you know, we have not heard the last of this.

1207
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 4: This is gonna come up somehow again in the summer.

1208
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 4: But let's also say the union, this was collectively bargained.

1209
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 4: It's a three year old rule and the union agreed

1210
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 4: to it. So I don't know how successful they're going

1211
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 4: to be at changing it. But when you when you

1212
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 4: take note of all the names that are not going

1213
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 4: to be of it, not going to be able to

1214
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 4: compete for MVP and Defensive Player of the Year, and

1215
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 4: you know, some of the All NBA and these high

1216
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: profile awards, I don't think the conversations over.

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00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 3: No.

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00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: My whole thing with it, and my issue is that

1219
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: we're on a we're having a conversation that the players

1220
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: want to say, hey, it's okay for our stars to

1221
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: not play in games, Like, that's a bad argument to make, Mark,

1222
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's okay for guy to not even play,

1223
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: to miss a quarter of the season, like for all

1224
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 1: of these guys, because now playing the games has become

1225
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: such less of a priority for so many teams. I mean, like,

1226
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 1: I don't think you can have that be something front

1227
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: and center that makes the league look great that yeah,

1228
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: we want to argue that our guys could play sixty games,

1229
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, or fifty five games and still be MVP.

1230
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, so you're telling me, then there's so

1231
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: much of the schedule that's that that doesn't matter, that's irrelevant,

1232
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's a slippery slope to be on

1233
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: here for this argument.

1234
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 4: Well, I think, though, what the argument is at this

1235
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 4: point is to trust voters when it comes to awards

1236
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 4: to be able to identify like Kayde Cunningham has played

1237
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 4: sixty to sixty one games, Lucas played sixty four, Like,

1238
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 4: I mean, when they put up the stats that they're

1239
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 4: putting up, I mean, do you realize if Luca Luca

1240
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 4: would become only the third Luca's gonna win the scoring

1241
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 4: title no matter what, even if he doesn't play another

1242
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 4: second in this regular season, Luca would become only the

1243
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 4: third scoring champion ever to not make All NBA. It

1244
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 4: happened in sixty eight sixty nine when Elvin Hayes scored

1245
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 4: twenty eight plus a game for the San Diego Rockets

1246
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 4: and Wes Unseld was MVP and Rookie of the Year.

1247
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 4: Elvin Hayes didn't even win Rookie of the Year that season,

1248
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 4: And then in seventy five seventy six from my Buffalo Braves,

1249
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 4: Bob mcindew Bob mcadew. Bob mcadhew finished second in MVT voting.

1250
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 4: By the way, those of you who say that the

1251
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: players should do the voting, Karma Abdul Jabbar won MVP

1252
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 4: in seventy five seventy six. The Lakers did not make

1253
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 4: the playoffs that season, and Kareem was still voted MVT

1254
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 4: by the players by his peers, but Bob mcadho did

1255
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 4: not make All He lost the All NBA slot to

1256
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 4: Dave Collins. Those the only two times in league history

1257
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 4: that the scoring champ didn't make All NBA, and that's

1258
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen for Luca Dacis unless this appeal is successful.

1259
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: Mark, Let's turn to one other heavyweight, Giannis and Tenna

1260
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: Kompo and his tenuous relationship with the Bucks, saying, Hey,

1261
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: I want to blank and play all this other stuff

1262
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: league investigation. Can we have that public like a congressional hearing,

1263
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: because I think that'd be fascinating to have all the agents,

1264
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: doctors and the counter arguments.

1265
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 4: On c SPAN or NBA team wherever you want it.

1266
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: If you want it on your sub stack, well we'll

1267
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: go there too.

1268
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1269
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: Well absolutely, Yeah.

1270
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 4: Here's the thing. I mean, look, Joannis with a very

1271
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 4: colorful interview. I'm never going to complain about that as

1272
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 4: a member of the media, but I'm sorry. The Bucks

1273
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: are in the right here. Gianna Santetokumpo has had four

1274
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 4: significant injuries this season, two calf strains and a doctor strain,

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Speaker 4: and now this knee hyper extension. Whether they trade him

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Speaker 4: or keep him, they need him to be right. They

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Speaker 4: need to stop this injury run. And so I think

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Speaker 4: the Bucks are justified in not letting him play. I

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Speaker 4: don't think they're I mean, they signed Cam Thomas on

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Speaker 4: the buyout market. That was a win now movement. Obviously

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Speaker 4: it didn't work, but it's like they have not been tanking,

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Speaker 4: and if they have been tanking, they're taking very badly

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Speaker 4: because they're pretty much close to the teams that are

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Speaker 4: in the play in. So I understand Giannis is upset.

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Speaker 4: He wants to play, and he's made that very clear.

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Speaker 4: But like I said, I think the Bucks are doing

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Speaker 4: what should be done here, like whether they trade him

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Speaker 4: or keep him, they need him to get past this

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Speaker 4: string of lower leg injuries and get to the bottom

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Speaker 4: of what keeps causing it because it's and it's not

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Speaker 4: just this season, It's happened in recent seasons as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I hear you on that. I just look at

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Speaker 1: at something when Lucas says I don't know where the

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Speaker 1: relationship goes from here, and I just keep saying, there's

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Speaker 1: no way he's still a Buck next Sea. There's it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna suddenly get better. This relationship is not going

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Speaker 1: to improve. They tried to bring in players, it didn't work.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we are just moving towards the inevitable.

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Speaker 1: Yannis on a new team right around the fourth of July.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think there will be a lot of people

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Speaker 4: who are weary of this saga and won't be sad

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Speaker 4: if you are. For once, they will not be sad.

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Speaker 4: If Jason Smith's correct.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna I got eight hundred words coming

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Speaker 1: up on Karl Anthony Towns for Yannis the money works.

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Speaker 1: I'll have it ready. Mark, don't worry. He'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: He'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: He's on it, and we'll see if we'll see if

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Speaker 4: the editors let it go.

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Speaker 1: He is on Twitter at the Steinline, that is, at

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Speaker 1: the Steinline substack as well. Mark Stein had a big

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Speaker 1: bit on the Yanna stuff earlier today as well, again

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Speaker 1: at the Sideline. Mark, thanks a bunch, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Be good.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you next week, all right, gents, talk soon,