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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast Knows You're Gonna Like It

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Speaker 1: in My City from the.

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Speaker 2: Chris Westling podcast Studio. It's Around the NFL. I am

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Speaker 2: Dan Hansens and I'm joined by my long friend and

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Speaker 2: hero Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Mark? Oh? Wait, here comes somebody else.

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Speaker 3: Just in the next time arrives Kawnie Foxy.

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Speaker 4: I've been here the whole time.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Oh?

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Speaker 5: You know, like that is my motto just in time?

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Speaker 5: Like I feel like maybe that is the tattoo I

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Speaker 5: get laptop free today.

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Speaker 4: No, that's just a total on the second.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so Colleen you should know that. I know you

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Speaker 6: have a lot of stress about being late to things.

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Speaker 6: I said to the production team, let's start as quickly

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Speaker 6: as possible, so she has to come to the show

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Speaker 6: in the middle of it.

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Speaker 5: I usually give myself a danzas right, so that's fair.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, big mistake.

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Speaker 4: Today, it's like eleven o three. It'll be fine.

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Speaker 5: Should I text them that I saw you guys through

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Speaker 5: the glass, because yes, we are in a fish bowl

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Speaker 5: and I thought you guys were just like chilling.

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Speaker 4: I would have really sprinted had I known.

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Speaker 3: Right, No, we were working very hard. We were not

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Speaker 3: chilling on any level.

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Speaker 6: As soon as we saw you because we're trying to

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Speaker 6: get things going. Then it was emergency mode to Eric

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Speaker 6: behind the glass. Started, started, started, but it didn't quite

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Speaker 6: mark at the effect because I don't see the pure panic.

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Speaker 6: But you know what, maybe it's the June twenty seventh

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Speaker 6: summer of Connie.

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Speaker 1: It is. She can't be flum mixed.

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Speaker 4: I think full right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, our our goal was to look like we

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Speaker 3: had gotten a solid or get a solid ten or

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Speaker 3: twelve minutes in where you know, we're into our third

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Speaker 3: story in the news run down, and then I think

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Speaker 3: that would set off some colleen based panic.

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Speaker 4: But you know I was panicking a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you rushed by us, by the way. It was

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Speaker 3: like a sprint across the window.

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Speaker 6: Here just in time, baby, All right, how is everybody so?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 1: Days off?

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Speaker 6: Nice week, and I'm back from Texas. We're here in

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Speaker 6: as I said at the top of Chris Wesley podcast studio,

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Speaker 6: Greg in mother Japan.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it is his mother.

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Speaker 1: Taking the week off Japan.

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Speaker 4: Is his mom his.

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Speaker 1: Mother in law?

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Speaker 3: Well there's that too, but I'm saying the actual geographical

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Speaker 3: place could be Greg's homeland in a way based on

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Speaker 3: the family that he is united with.

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Speaker 4: Sure, guys, when are we going to Japan and doing

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Speaker 4: sh GC?

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Speaker 1: We are going to go do a show in Japan

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Speaker 1: in twenty thirty seven.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm in no budgetary concerns for that. By the way,

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Speaker 3: my voice is a disaster today and this is an

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Speaker 3: audio show, so that's a problem.

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Speaker 6: Well, I do you know, you do a little do

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Speaker 6: a little true crime level deduction, you know, a little red

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 6: And we had a few days off and Mark's out

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Speaker 6: in the wilderness, comes back like a guy who has

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Speaker 6: been out and enjoying his life for a few days.

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Speaker 3: It's really hot in here, guys.

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Speaker 5: I've been doing a tarantinothon too, which I feel like

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Speaker 5: you guys would be super into. Really, I've watched I've

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Speaker 5: made it through the first six. Now, I had never

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Speaker 5: seen Death Proof before. That was the last one I watched.

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Speaker 1: Not my favorite of his, but it's not his favorite either.

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Speaker 5: But also even his bad movies are good. Like it

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Speaker 5: was campy and trashy, but like that's the whole point

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Speaker 5: of it. And Kurt Russell was incredible.

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Speaker 3: Is he is excellent, that you have to compile a

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Speaker 3: twenty five times better than ninety six percent of what

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure how much we could say, Mark, because

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Speaker 6: there's you know, we'd be kicking around some things for

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I was alerted of it yesterday in the middle of

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Speaker 5: my Tarantino thon.

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Speaker 1: So that there was an active text change with a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I had been simultaneously texting with SHK about

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Speaker 5: Tarantino at the same time, were texting, well, we have

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Speaker 5: some waring texting change in.

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Speaker 6: The works, the works worring texting change. That's one way

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Speaker 6: to spend it.

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Speaker 4: Or we can all work together.

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Speaker 6: On this program around the NFL as we rapidly approach

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Speaker 6: our eleventh season together.

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Speaker 1: And yes, it's a quiet time.

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Speaker 6: I think, Mark, this has to be I think the

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Speaker 6: one year anniversary, if not exactly to the week of

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Speaker 6: caveon Thibodeau coming into an otherwise empty building here in

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Speaker 6: Englewood and just burning the place down with his apathy

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Speaker 6: for us. I miss that I want to bring that

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Speaker 6: energy back one day. But there is a vibe. Considering

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Speaker 6: this is the headquarters of NFL on the West Coast

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Speaker 6: and NFL Network and NFL Media, it does feel like

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Speaker 6: a little bit of summer school. Like you know, we

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Speaker 6: came in today and it's pretty quiet around here.

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Speaker 3: Very quiet. The hallways are sparse and empty, which I

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Speaker 3: that suggests people are out and about having fun in

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Speaker 3: other parts of the country. But it is a massively

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Speaker 3: hulking corporate complex and there's about fourteen people here working

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Speaker 6: Isn't it interesting though? Despite how quiet it is outside

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Speaker 6: this studio. What a big show we have today because

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Speaker 6: always one of my favorite things to write on the

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Speaker 6: website and then talk about it with my buddies here

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Speaker 6: the Superstar Club twenty twenty three, and Colleen had to

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Speaker 6: get Connie on the show to hear her thoughts on

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Speaker 6: the Superstar Club.

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Speaker 1: Greg likes this one.

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Speaker 6: He likes to talk about certain there's a certain figure

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Speaker 6: wish I had Greg's input or pushback on but I'll

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Speaker 6: have to alert him next week. A lot of players,

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Speaker 6: big time stars or high profile players, but are they

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Speaker 6: actual superstars? Who are the true superstars? What even is

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Speaker 6: a superstar? We're gonna get it into all that. That's juicy.

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Speaker 5: I can't wait to get in the weeds on it.

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Speaker 1: But first a little bit of news. Tish go with

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Speaker 1: three tight ends, Hannah shotgun. They roll up to the

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Speaker 1: right side. Mahomes pump faking now far as it late

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Speaker 7: Touchdown Jansas City, Travis Kelsey from Patrick Mahomes and the

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Speaker 7: Chiefs league twelve to three, and now Mahomes to Kelsey

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Speaker 7: in the postseason for the thirteenth time.

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Speaker 8: Thirteen times and that was a huge score, huge score

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Speaker 8: in the AFC Championship game in January, the Chiefs taking

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Speaker 6: And you know what, let's just have fun with it.

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Speaker 6: We could, we could do the thing. We're like, oh,

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Speaker 6: you've been talking with let's just have fun. I talk

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Speaker 6: about football players doing podcasts and talking trash to each other.

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Speaker 1: So here we are.

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Speaker 6: Jamar Chase was asked about a statement made by his

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Speaker 6: own teammate, the Patrick Mahomes the reigning Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 6: League MVP, is the best quarterback in the league. Jamar

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Speaker 6: Chase says perhaps ingestat oh didn't sit well with Travis

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Speaker 6: Kelce on his New Heights podcast with his brother Jason.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen it. I thought it was a little bold.

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Speaker 9: You know, so the guy's a two time League MVP,

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Speaker 9: two time Super Bowl MVP.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to say, Pat, who is like dispect it is

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Speaker 9: Dog who doesn't love some good locker room banter man

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Speaker 9: shout out to Jamar Chase for you know, holding it

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Speaker 9: down for his QB. But don't you ever dispect Pat Mahomes.

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Speaker 9: Now if you want to talk, yo, talkyo, just back

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Speaker 9: it up.

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Speaker 1: I think we have a new drop so good. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I yes. I I set this up by saying we're

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Speaker 3: I mean I think it's like, if you're gonna take

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes feels like a weird target where you're not

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Speaker 3: gonna win that argument with literally anyone, especially his star

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Speaker 4: I liked Mahomes's tweet that's who with the two rings?

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Speaker 1: I mean, very good. Yeah, that's the way to do it.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of rings, can we just the chiefs two weeks

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Speaker 6: ago had their ceremony. The teams always have the ceremony.

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Speaker 6: The rings got six hundred and thirteen diamonds. I mean,

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Speaker 6: what what what are we gonna do in like twenty years?

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Speaker 6: Is it just gonna cover up the entire right side

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Speaker 4: What are the taxes on that too?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: Aren't they paying taxes on this?

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Speaker 1: You always wear?

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Speaker 3: There's like two decades from now where they encounter some

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: That's becoming a more and more attractive concept.

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Speaker 6: But like, at what point are these rings not even

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Speaker 1: You can't drive a p or know, to the market

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Speaker 3: If someone's gonna cut your finger off and run away

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Speaker 1: You can knock somebody out more drip. You're okay with

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Speaker 6: In other news, the bills they want to get back

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Speaker 6: to the AFC Title Game or get to the AFC

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Speaker 6: Title game.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it weird they this run they've been on.

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Speaker 6: They haven't even got to the AFC Title Game yet

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Speaker 6: everyone's saying they need to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Gotta get to the AFC Title Game first. They haven't

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Speaker 6: But ownership is very happy with the setup there because

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Speaker 6: it was announced this week that Sean McDermott and Brandon

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Speaker 6: Bean were both extended their contracts through twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 6: Twenty twenty three will be the pair of seventh season together,

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Speaker 6: three AFC to be East Division titles, four straight playoff appearances,

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Speaker 6: Number one Connie on my urgency meter.

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Speaker 1: And perhaps perhaps the Bills.

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Speaker 6: Read that and they said, man, we got to turn

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Speaker 6: down the media a little bit, and let's extend these

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Speaker 6: guys for no reason whatsoever. They were under contract for

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Speaker 6: like three more years, just to make them feel like it's.

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Speaker 1: Not all or nothing this year, but it really is.

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Speaker 3: Wait, your NFL dot com article perhaps triggered this transaction,

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Speaker 3: I would remove.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps yeah, they read it and it put the whole

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Speaker 5: thing over the finish line. So now McBean is not

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Speaker 6: He went bear hunting. He's an avid outdoorsman. Posted a

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Speaker 4: One with nature.

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Speaker 6: Well, that wouldn't be fairy, because the bears got big

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Speaker 6: But this is not a good look for Carson fringing

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to be the case.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL.

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Speaker 6: And every year I am tasked with writing on NFL

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Speaker 4: I think there needs to be less people in the club.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 6: Let's start with, you know, in terms of this sport, quarterbacks,

449
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Speaker 6: that is the true indicator.

450
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Speaker 1: Of a superstar.

451
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Speaker 6: Signal caller, the field general, the FG. Absolutely seven quarterbacks

452
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 6: are superstars. The list is Josh Allen alphabetical. By the way,

453
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 6: don't get it carried away. Don't get carried away here.

454
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 6: It's not a ranking. Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert

455
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers. There is one newcomer

456
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 6: to the list, none of her. Then Colleen's own Jalen

457
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 6: Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles. And I'll get to some

458
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Speaker 6: names that are out of the mix. But let's start

459
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Speaker 6: with Hurtz. This was a no brainer. We knew that

460
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 6: this was Colleen.

461
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not. I don't gonna say what. We

462
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: knew it was a possibility, it could have it.

463
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 6: There was a best case scenario entering last season that

464
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 6: Hurts could make a gigantic lead the way he did,

465
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Speaker 6: But I don't think anyone really expected it to that level,

466
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Speaker 6: even Eagles fans that really like what they saw from

467
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 6: him in twenty.

468
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Speaker 5: One right, No, I mean, his growth was remarkable, and

469
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 5: you have to remember he was coming off the season

470
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 5: where the Eagles really weren't expected to be in the playoffs.

471
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Speaker 5: It was sort of a year, a transition year. Siriani,

472
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 5: it was his first season and it was Hurts his

473
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 5: first year at the quarterback position. They went into Tampa

474
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 5: Bay and it was just a disaster that wild card game.

475
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 5: So I felt like that game kind of changed the

476
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Speaker 5: narrative for him a little bit. Over last offseason and

477
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 5: then coming into the year, he just made huge strides

478
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Speaker 5: in the passing game and just overall, I mean, MVP

479
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 5: candidate obviously went to the Super Bowl, played really damn

480
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 5: good all year long, and having Aj Brown there absolutely helped,

481
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 5: but the numbers were you you could not argue with

482
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Speaker 5: them at all.

483
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Speaker 4: He absolutely belongs in the club.

484
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you're a Justin Fields fan, a

485
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Speaker 3: Bears fan, you look at that road map that Jalen

486
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: Hurts just went through and wonder if that's the kind

487
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Speaker 3: of player that can make this kind of leap, Because

488
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: it's a year ago it was Jalen Hurts has spoken

489
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Speaker 3: about completely differently. Is not like trying out for his job,

490
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: but the Eagles might have a wandering eye for phill

491
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Speaker 3: in the blank, Russell Wilson, someone else, and instead he

492
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Speaker 3: just took this titanic leap. And I mean it kind

493
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: of just goes to show that the quarterback development I

494
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: remember growing up and like Phil Simms had five or

495
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 3: six seasons before he was kind of cemented in as

496
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: like the plug and play guy, and now it happens

497
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: in year two or three.

498
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 6: Tops Hurts averaged eight yards of Carrie last season, almost

499
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Speaker 6: eight hundred yards on the ground, thirteen rushing scores. It

500
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 6: was excellent as a passer as well, and as we

501
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Speaker 6: saw in the Super Bowl, I mean when he and

502
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Speaker 6: I know he had the big turnover that led to

503
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Speaker 6: a touchdown that kind of changed the game. But in

504
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 6: many ways he was the most dominant player on the field,

505
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Speaker 6: so this was an easy one.

506
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Speaker 4: He's got the swag too, like he belongs in the club.

507
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Speaker 6: He belongs, and that's something Greg has talked about in

508
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Speaker 6: the past that I agree with you.

509
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Speaker 1: There's certain there's a genus quah involved here.

510
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's a club and it is for to

511
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 6: be the certain way you carry yourself or how you're seen.

512
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Speaker 6: And you add that with the way things look this

513
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 6: year because every new member to the Superstar Club it's

514
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 6: a probationary one year period, okay, and herts is set

515
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 6: up very well with a great team, great playmakers around.

516
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Speaker 1: Where was he? Where were the Eagles in our exercise?

517
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Speaker 1: I think they were either two or three.

518
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: I had them. I believe it we two or three together,

519
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: but I think three in the overall mix.

520
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Speaker 1: Maybe yes, So they're they're set up well, and.

521
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Speaker 3: It's I can't even recall that episode which was just

522
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: mired days ago, but.

523
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Speaker 6: I think there's again red string it and we're going

524
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Speaker 6: to connect some dots behind the scenes. Now, who's out okay,

525
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 6: because there's multiple guys out. In fact, three I had

526
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Speaker 6: to take three out. I think I just got a

527
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 6: little more strict this year. I think I made some

528
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 6: changes and and how I how I see things. Tom

529
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 6: Brady easy retired and he would have come out anyway. Yeah,

530
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 6: although I did take him out of the Superstar Club

531
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Speaker 6: a few years back and had to put him back in.

532
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Speaker 1: That was very embarrassing.

533
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: You paid for that, well, you'd you know, had been

534
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 3: calling for his decline for roughly eight years of this show.

535
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: So I was right eventually. So he's out. Russell Wilson, yep,

536
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: hard out.

537
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: We're all aligned.

538
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: That was an easy one as well. And I think

539
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: I think Wilson has a chance to bounce back.

540
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Speaker 6: But I think even a Broncos fan that's highly optimistic

541
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 6: probably is not thinking at this point right that he's

542
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 6: gonna get back to the heights that he was. It

543
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 6: was just such a precipitous drop last year. I think

544
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Speaker 6: just being a functional quarterback, you would take that as

545
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Speaker 6: a w.

546
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Speaker 5: He was out of the club quite quick last year.

547
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Speaker 5: And I can't wait to see what he does with

548
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 5: Sean Payton and if things changed this year. But I

549
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 5: like proved me wrong, But I don't think that that

550
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 5: is going to happen. I would love to see him

551
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 5: back in the club with Siarra like a smoke show outfit.

552
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 5: They're gonna have bottles of classas ool like. You know,

553
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 5: it's gonna be great. But I don't think that that's

554
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 5: gonna be this season for Russell Wilson.

555
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: There are whispers because it's so quiet that everything's just

556
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 3: in Tropeland. But Joe Lombardi, paired with Sean Payton, said

557
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: that they're very happy with Russell Wilson's offseason. I mean,

558
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: the one thing I'd say is that he looked physically,

559
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: more spelt and in better shape than he had been

560
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: in a while. I don't know what, if any of

561
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: that means anything at all.

562
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: Is that a trope alert?

563
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Speaker 1: Good?

564
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: I think it's a mass It's a layered trope. There's

565
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 3: I saw here's a trope there.

566
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Speaker 1: You know.

567
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Speaker 6: I think it was an Instagram video of him working

568
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 6: in Yeah, looks different, right, you know, that's maybe a trope.

569
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 6: It is a trope alert, absolutely, but one that maybe

570
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 6: I'm buying into a little bit. Really, Remember, he was

571
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 6: called the sack of Potatoes by a defender at the

572
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 6: end of last season, and he's a player that part

573
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 6: of what made him great was his escapability, his ability

574
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 6: to both as a scrambler with the Seahawks and also

575
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 6: to buy himself more time and keep his eyes downfield.

576
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 6: That's kind of what Russell Wilson was all about. It

577
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 6: wasn't that way so much in year one, Denver. Now,

578
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 6: this one's gonna be controversial, but I'm gonna do it.

579
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: Also, won't hurt the old clicks on the article.

580
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 4: No, this is I feel like I know where you're going.

581
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. I'm taken out of the superstars.

582
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: I read a mirror reaction to this whole quarterback thing.

583
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 6: Okay, great, Yeah, And that is not to say that

584
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 6: I don't think Dak Prescott is a good quarterback, because

585
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 6: I do think he's a good quarterback. I'm not even

586
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 6: saying that Dak Prescott can't get hot and when paired

587
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 6: with a really good Cowboys team and make a run

588
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 6: to the super Bowl and even win it like Matthew

589
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 6: Stafford did, another guy.

590
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Speaker 1: That's not a superstar in this exercise.

591
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Speaker 6: For me, I just think for me, after the last

592
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 6: couple of years, I'm just pulling back a little bit

593
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 6: personally on kind of how I see him you know,

594
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 6: he has had some great statistical years in his career

595
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 6: at Dallas. Last year was not one of them. He

596
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 6: led the league in intercept options, he seemed to be

597
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 6: a guy that with a not so hot supporting cast

598
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 6: other than a really good wide receiver one and Tony

599
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 6: Poller emerging, didn't seem like he was making a lot

600
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 6: of his teammates better on the field, and in general,

601
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 6: there's an inconsistency to his game. We saw how he

602
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 6: played in the first round of the playoffs as beautifully

603
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 6: then was not able to make it happen against admittedly

604
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 6: a very good San Francisco defense, And I think that's

605
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 6: kind of what it is.

606
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is maybe.

607
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 6: Maybe even like his predecesssor Tony Romo in the Hall,

608
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 6: very good rather than the truly great. So I'm just

609
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 6: pulling them back a little bit out of the superstar club.

610
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 6: Doesn't mean I think the Cowboys need a new quarterback.

611
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like a career assessment, because but you're

612
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: not flipped like you can't just ignore what happened last year,

613
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: because I think when when Dak Prescott was playing in

614
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: his heights, he's like a top five quarterback right, but

615
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: then he completely has these he goes completely a wall

616
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: for a quarter at a time. And it's not just environment.

617
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like a lot of those inner sceptions.

618
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: We're not on Dak Prescott. There were some weird things

619
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: that happened, but I'm with you. I put him in

620
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: a category because I don't want to publish this. This

621
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: is just on my little Google doc here, but fringe

622
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: because I was like, I don't know what to do

623
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: with him entirely, because I think it could be back

624
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: in this club if he is one of his better

625
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: type seasons. But I can't after the last season just

626
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: ignore a lot of what I saw.

627
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 5: He's on my bubble as well. But guys, Mike McCarthy, bro,

628
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 5: I mean, this offense is going to be way different

629
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 5: for Dax.

630
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: We'll see if that changes.

631
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, but even that, like you mentioned that, because McCarthy's

632
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 6: been very vocal that that Zaddy's saying, like we finally

633
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 6: get to play football the way we want them.

634
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna score less this year.

635
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 6: And I don't know what he's saying, actually, but I

636
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 6: think he's saying he wants to be a little more

637
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 6: ball control and maybe less aired out if I'm understanding

638
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 6: some of these quotes that have been and I'm wondering

639
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 6: if that is going to be a detriment to some

640
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 6: of the production from the quarterback as well.

641
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,479
Speaker 1: And stats are part of this as well.

642
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: That doesn't make it easier to get back into this organization,

643
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: this club.

644
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 5: Dock up though, Guys someone who's like knocking on the

645
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 5: door of the club, he's hanging out outside, he's waiting

646
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 5: in line. I don't know if he's going to get

647
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 5: in or not this year, but I feel like Trevor

648
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 5: Lawrence has a shot to get there, all right.

649
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 6: So I have a category good job, Connie. I have

650
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 6: a category for each of these positional groups close calls.

651
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 6: And I don't think there's necessarily a close call that

652
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 6: I have here, but guys that I'm keeping an eye on,

653
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 6: and Lawrence is absolutely one of them. Because he did

654
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 6: hyped up his generational talent, got wiped out by the

655
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 6: Urban Meyer fiasco in year one, made that leap in

656
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 6: year two, got to the divisional playoffs, and there is

657
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 6: a lot you could piece things together and say, Okay,

658
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 6: this is going to be the year he now becomes

659
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 6: a superstar. I would not be surprised. I try not

660
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 6: to get ahead of it too much. I'll talk about

661
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 6: some other guys that fall under that category and try

662
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 6: to say guy's a superstar before he's proven this.

663
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: To be a superstar, you kind.

664
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 6: Of have to be proven right at that level, rather

665
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 6: than oh, he could be a superstar.

666
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: And I think Trevor Lawrence still has to do that.

667
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 6: Fields is another We've talked about him on the show

668
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 6: that Justin Fields, if things go a certain way, could

669
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 6: have that Jalen Hurts type leap in year three. And

670
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 6: I'm excited to see what he can do with a

671
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 6: more functional surrounding group. Could he have a huge season

672
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 6: this year. I think it's possible. And then there's one

673
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 6: other name.

674
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: Mark, I I have a question for you. Is it

675
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: Rock Purty?

676
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: No, okay, I never even thought.

677
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: I know you didn't. I know you didn't like most

678
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: people wouldn't. But let's say you take the because we're talking.

679
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: About Mark, we're talking about the super starch.

680
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: I know it with Trevor Lawrence, right, it was like

681
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: final six or seven games where he morphed into a superstar.

682
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: It's like we just need to see it again, right,

683
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: Rock Purty essentially was a flawless quarterback for six plus.

684
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: Weeks playing with a remarkable support.

685
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: I was saying, like, if he went and did that

686
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: for another seventeen game stretch into the playoffs, is he

687
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: not a superstar?

688
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about it. We'll talk about it next time, Okay.

689
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: But I'm not like I just he's just on my

690
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: like deeper radar and little in the sky.

691
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: I get it.

692
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, Deshaun who was in the

693
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 6: superstar club and then when everything happened, he was quietly

694
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 6: yearnd out of the entire conversation. I have him back

695
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 6: in now in terms of not in the club, but

696
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 6: a guy that I'm considering as in terms of that.

697
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 6: And listen, like full off season, no league discipline or

698
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 6: legal issues issues, lingering, a really nice offensive line, nice

699
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 6: skill group, talked about that, I had the Browns in

700
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 6: the top ten. It's all kind of set up for

701
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 6: him to maybe regain what and and get back to

702
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 6: what he was now.

703
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: All the other stuff, I get it, But I'm just.

704
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 6: Saying, in terms of the quarterback and the producer and

705
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 6: being a leader, and in terms of wins and losses,

706
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 6: he is somebody I'm watching this season to see where

707
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 6: he lands.

708
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: I think anyone who's been in the club, like you'd

709
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: have to keep an eye on. But like for your

710
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: urgency meter, tell me Cleveland was not on that list.

711
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: I guess there's a lot of pressure on that coaching

712
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: staff and really everyone.

713
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: I keep wrestling with Dak. I don't know, I like,

714
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 4: I just keep going back.

715
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 6: Do you love exercise where Jalen hurts, the Eagles quarterback

716
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 6: becomes the superstar and the.

717
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys quarterback yanked.

718
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 5: You know, it's.

719
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: Ceremoniously how to get Connie on this episode?

720
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: But you are right, they're gonna tweet that out with

721
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: the picture. That thing is gonna go absolutely ballistic.

722
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: And I will I may be not around anymore.

723
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 5: No, hit them with the go birds and everything will

724
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 5: be fine.

725
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: You're lucky you got out of Texas when you did.

726
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: That's true, would not have worked. Well there, I'm not

727
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: meaning Cowboys listeners. You know I don't hate the Cowboys.

728
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: In fact, you know, I kind of like watching them.

729
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: I'm not as down on their constant prime time.

730
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 5: Well, it's like they are superstars in their own and

731
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 5: he built in.

732
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what helped get back into the Superstar called

733
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 6: because it does carry that little extra something when you're

734
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 6: the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. But I just had

735
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 6: a yank, and let's move to running backs, and this

736
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 6: class is shrunk gang. Here are the running backs in

737
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 6: the Superstar Club return earning member year three. I believe

738
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 6: Nick Chubb maybe year two might have been a year late, unchubbed,

739
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 6: but he is in. Derrick Henry is back, Christian McCaffrey

740
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 6: is back. And even though I.

741
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: Have the ability to rescind.

742
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 6: This based on the one year probation, Jonathan Taylor stays

743
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 6: in the Superstar Club and given him a pass, you know,

744
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 6: and like they say in the Mob.

745
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: Movies, he's given me a pass. I got a pass.

746
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 6: Everything was terrible last year for the Colts, but I

747
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 6: remember Jonathan Taylor, because let's start with Taylor.

748
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: How incredible he was in twenty twenty one.

749
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 6: Just a reminder of everybody that he is still twenty

750
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 6: four years old. In twenty twenty one, he had twy

751
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 6: and seventy one total yards and twenty touchdowns. And even

752
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 6: last year, as bad as everything was for the Colts,

753
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 6: and it was terrible from the offensive line play to

754
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 6: the quarterback play to the drama behind the scenes, the

755
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 6: head coach and everything. He still ran for a thousand

756
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 6: yards last year, and all the injuries he had, and

757
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 6: before he got hurt again and banged up that ankle,

758
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 6: he was looking like Jonathan Taylor.

759
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: So he's staying there. Mark.

760
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 6: Did you have him still in in the Superstar Club

761
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 6: or was he off your list?

762
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: I moved him off, not because I don't agree with

763
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: what you're saying, because I think he's a guy. This

764
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: guy can be back on the list if he returns.

765
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: I don't like to do that though, but I but

766
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: I guess I am basing this, like largely off of

767
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 3: what we've seen most recently, and I think injury can't

768
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: be the only reason you knock him off. But he

769
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 3: wasn't the same player, and I just think it's an

770
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: exclusive little club to do.

771
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: Way.

772
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: Did you not have Saquon Barkley back on the back

773
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 3: in the club?

774
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 4: He didn't.

775
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: I did not see I I took Taylor off and

776
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 3: a couple other people as well, but I put Saquon

777
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 3: back in.

778
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go through.

779
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 4: I can't believe you don't have Josh Jacob Well.

780
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: That that one is concerning too.

781
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: But if so, who, here's who's out for last year?

782
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 6: Dalvin cook Who Even though you popped the hood on

783
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 6: some of his production even last year, it's not too

784
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 6: far off from when he was seen.

785
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: As a superstar, at least obviously by me.

786
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 6: But there is something disconcerting for me doing this exercise,

787
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 6: saying guys is a superstar and he's just like lingering

788
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 6: on the free agent market for weeks.

789
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: Now, that's a little it's a bit of a red flag, ye.

790
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 6: Like I don't know, Like I didn't feel comfortable keeping

791
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 6: him in the Superstar Club because if he truly was

792
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 6: a superstar.

793
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: A girlfriend right now? Is that what's happening? He shows

794
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: up single to the club.

795
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 5: He's had four straight one thousand yard seasons, Like, what

796
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 5: do you.

797
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 6: Think Damn Cooks should be still in the Superstar Club

798
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 6: if he doesn't, If.

799
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 5: He was on the Vikings and he was still in Minnesota,

800
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 5: would he be in the club?

801
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: I would be thinking long and hard about it.

802
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 6: Yes, But I do factor in external things like did

803
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 6: he get fired by his previous team, Like.

804
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 4: Well, I think that's like a cap thing too, right.

805
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: Or no, well, they definitely had cap issues, but there

806
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: are thing is if we if we're too soft. You

807
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: have like eight people in this in this list on

808
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 3: the club for the running backs, I have four.

809
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: Right.

810
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 5: I think Jonathan Taylor should not be in because he

811
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 5: he only rushed for like eight hundred and some yards

812
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 5: and that was like the first time he hadn't rushed

813
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 5: for one thousand yards since high school. And yeah, everything

814
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 5: was like terrible last year for him and the entire

815
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 5: team and the entire offense. But if it's a superstar club,

816
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 5: you got to play like a superstar. So I'm putting

817
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 5: Josh Jacobs in and taking Jonathan Taylor out.

818
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: Okay, close calls. I had Josh Jacobs and.

819
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 3: Why because I had to question about Josh Jacobs because

820
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: he looked as good as any running back last year.

821
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: I think I am because Cisco's back and forth. But

822
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: I had him on the fence, which again is my

823
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: own category, because of I don't know if I trust

824
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: that was going to ever happen again.

825
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 6: That's why he's not here for me, Not because I

826
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 6: don't think he's a good running back or even potentially

827
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 6: a great one. I just wonder what he does as

828
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 6: an encore after leading the league in touches, almost four

829
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 6: hundred touches last year, three hundred and forty carries he has.

830
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 6: He has zero career touchdown receptions, so he doesn't really

831
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 6: give you that much juice from that side of things.

832
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 6: And I really like Josh Jacobs, but I just I

833
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 6: don't know. I guess the bar is just higher for me,

834
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 6: and I kept him out. I also the one I

835
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 6: struggled with the most out of any player in this exercise,

836
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 6: and Barkley I struggled with as well, because you could

837
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 6: look at what he did last year and comeback player

838
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 6: of the year type season for Barkley. But I think

839
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 6: one of the things that that Greg has talked about

840
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 6: sometimes she's got to wait it out with Barkley, and

841
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 6: it's it could be a slog watching a lot of

842
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 6: those you know, negative twos, no gain, negative three, and

843
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 6: then he blows out the twenty five yard er, the

844
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 6: big play, and it's like, all right, everything is great,

845
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 6: but maybe his offense just doesn't excite me, and it's

846
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 6: it's part of the attack. He's so well, you're the author,

847
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 6: so you can decide this. But it was Austin Eckler

848
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 6: that I really because I mean, listen, I don't know.

849
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 6: Is it the stink of twenty seven nothing hanging over

850
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 6: a lot of the Chargers And that's totally unfair.

851
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: It's a different thing. It's a team game.

852
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 6: He's entering his age twenty eight season, thirty eight touchdowns

853
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 6: in the last two years. That's twelve more than any

854
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 6: other player. He caught one hundred and seven passes.

855
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just maybe I'm wrong it

856
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: is he a superstar.

857
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 5: Cow well the same way as you because he did

858
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 5: have eighteen touchdowns last year. I mean, he was always scoring.

859
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 5: But I feel like the way that the Chargers situation

860
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 5: went with him kind of affects the way that I

861
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: think about him. And that's completely unfair. But that's just

862
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 5: I think the reality of it a little bit.

863
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: Would you rather have Austin Eckler over McCaffrey, Nick Chubb, Derrick,

864
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 3: Henry Seguon, Barkley.

865
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe Josh Jacobs.

866
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would have I mean, Eckler is a approaching

867
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 6: the Fantasy Hall of Fame. He's a great player. I

868
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 6: mean I would have him. I would take name those

869
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 6: guys again.

870
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: I'll go yes, No, Christian McCaffrey, no, Nick Chubb, No,

871
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry No, Saquon Barkley yes, Josh Jacobs No. Then

872
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of how large is this club

873
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: for these running backs?

874
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 6: And I put it out there on Twitter, the ones

875
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 6: that I really struggle with. It's become a bit of

876
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 6: a tradition this time of year. I'll just throw it

877
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 6: out there, simple question. Is Austin Eckler a superstar? Over

878
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 6: eight thousand votes and fifty seven point six percent.

879
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: Of the football ggment says no.

880
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 6: So you know, everybody has their own definition of a

881
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 6: superstar and and charge can get angry about that, and

882
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 6: Giants fans certainly as well.

883
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: But just short, whatever it means, it's just short, is it?

884
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: This stink of twenty seven? Nothing? I don't know.

885
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 3: I think I could. I think you're broadcasting that that's

886
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: a possibility for you.

887
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in I alwed no, I think that justin

888
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: Herbert he's still in the club.

889
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: But like the Chargers, Q rating has taken a hit

890
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: almost year after year.

891
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 4: And Alvin Kamara was in your rankings last year.

892
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: Right he was.

893
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 6: He was the other name I took out, and that

894
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 6: was the name that I wish Greg was here for

895
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 6: because he totally disagrees with me, but I think it's

896
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 6: been two years of kind of not superhuman production. He's

897
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 6: two years older, he's got a potential suspension on the way.

898
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 6: The arrival in Jamal Williams is a real goal line guy.

899
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 6: It's going to take away touches in the red zone.

900
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 6: And not to mention the arrival of Kamara's potential twenty

901
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 6: twenty four replacement in TSU running back Kendry Miller, a

902
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 6: third round pick. Certainly, Kamara is still a great weapon

903
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 6: and any coach would love to have him. But I

904
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 6: just guess it's been too long now as a game

905
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 6: changing superstar since we've seen him at that level. And

906
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 6: Sean Payton's done around either.

907
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 5: They just use him different too, like without Peyton and

908
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 5: without Drew Brees there. Like before they were using him

909
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 5: in every way possible because they had to. But then

910
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 5: it's just like everything is down for him, all of

911
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 5: his numbers.

912
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: All right now.

913
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 6: The group that has the most names, it's not quarterback

914
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 6: but wide receiver ten of them. Hello, that was that

915
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 6: was a tough category.

916
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: Running back.

917
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, in general, running backs just a tough one to

918
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 6: figure out right now.

919
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: It's a it's a tough.

920
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 5: Cookie because the league it's like running backs aren't supposed

921
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 5: to be superstars anymore, but they are superstars. He doesn't

922
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 5: have a job.

923
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: You're gonna have Raiders fans all over you, though, But

924
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 3: that's that's.

925
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 4: How the Raiders fans Cowboys fans.

926
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway.

927
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 6: Why receivers returning names Devonte Adams, AJ Brown, Jamar Chase,

928
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 6: Stefon Diggs, Tyreek Hill, Justin Jefferson, Cooper Cup, DK Metcalf,

929
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 6: Deebo Samuel, all of them pretty much slam dunk, no doubt.

930
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 6: Returning names The newcomer for me, well, let me start here.

931
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 6: The only name there that I want to keep it

932
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 6: in an eye on Deebo Samuel. I love Samuel. He's

933
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 6: one of my favorite players to watch. Last year, the injuries,

934
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 6: which is something you know, he's a guy that gets

935
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 6: banged up. He was held under a thousand yards in

936
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 6: thirteen games, only five touchdowns. Previous year he had almost

937
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 6: eighteen hundred total yards and fourteen touchdowns one hundred and

938
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 6: thirty six touches, so he had thirty eight less touches.

939
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 6: In general, was a little less of a dynamic player.

940
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 6: Let's see how his body holds up in another year.

941
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 6: The newcomer here is ced lamp You had him in, yes,

942
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 6: tell me why he's in for you?

943
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 5: Okay, because he had career highs last year and targets, catches, yards, touchdowns,

944
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 5: and he was top five in the league last season

945
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 5: or top six in receiving yards receiving touchdowns. When I

946
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 5: was just like going through all the different categories on

947
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 5: Pro Football Reference, like he was popping up in every

948
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 5: single top ten list every time I went down a

949
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 5: different stat line. Like he also, as we kind of

950
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 5: talked about with Dak, like he has that Cowboys star

951
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 5: shine and it's the it's almost like the opposite of

952
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 5: Justin Herbert being in the club and Austin Eckler being out.

953
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 5: But in this case, Dak is out and Ceedee Lamb

954
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 5: is in. And I just think we haven't even seen

955
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 5: his best yet.

956
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: I had him in two. I mean a lot of

957
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: his handiwork came with instant chemistry with Kooper Rush in

958
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: a really weird situation of the gate. It's sort of like,

959
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 3: no matter what the environment was, Ceedee Lamb is producing

960
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: week after week. He's the only person, though, looking up

961
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 3: and down the list of wideouts who were not on

962
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: last year's list. He's the only guy I came up

963
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: with that he even had a chance to be on

964
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: it this year.

965
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 6: This one was up in the air for me even

966
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 6: till this morning.

967
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: And by the way, this article will be up on

968
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: Wednesday on NFL dot com just because he was very good.

969
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: He came in with a ton of hype.

970
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 6: They gave number eighty eight, which, by the way, the

971
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 6: last two eighty eights in Dallas. We're superstars in Michael

972
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 6: Irvin and Dez Bryant.

973
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: And.

974
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 6: You kind of wanted to see that big leap, and

975
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 6: I thought you did. Like Colleen pointed out, even when

976
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 6: Dak went out, he was still productive. When Dak came back,

977
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 6: he had some monster games. And you Brandon Cooks is

978
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 6: there now, and I think that can only help because

979
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 6: Ceeddee lamb has.

980
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: You know, and he said it on our show during

981
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl week. He's like, we need more like we

982
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: need more help around us. Dak needs more help.

983
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 6: And if Tony Pollard is healthy and Cooks is the

984
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 6: guy they hope he is, and Michael Gallup gets back

985
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 6: some of the juice, Ceedee Lam's only gonna get better.

986
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 6: He's going to continue to see a huge target share

987
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 6: either way. He's twenty four years old. And the reason

988
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 6: I kind of hesitated just a little bit is because

989
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 6: the leap that he made from year two to year

990
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 6: three was great, but was it superstar great? And I

991
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 6: think that's where the star helped him. Yeah, I think

992
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 6: the star helped him because Cedee Lamb feels like even

993
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 6: his name, like he's box office and that's why he

994
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 6: did make the cut. Making room for CD Lamb was

995
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 6: DeAndre Hopkins. He's missed fifteen games in the past two years.

996
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 6: He has a ped suspension. Another guy. How do I

997
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 6: put a guy in the superstar club if he doesn't

998
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 6: even have a job right now. That's fair, and I

999
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 6: understand that he probably could have a job right now

1000
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 6: if he brought down his asking price, But if the

1001
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 6: rest of the league still saw him as the player

1002
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 6: he was at his height, when he was arguably the

1003
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 6: best wide receiver in football three or four years ago,

1004
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 6: he would have a job now and he doesn't. And

1005
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 6: I think about that. He's aged thirty one.

1006
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: A guy.

1007
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 6: You know, if I learned that Joe Dougle signed him tomorrow,

1008
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 6: would I be pumped? Absolutely? So I'm not saying he

1009
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 6: can't play anymore. But this is the Superstar Club. You

1010
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 6: have to be that next level guy. And I think

1011
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 6: maybe Hopkins is just on the other show.

1012
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bumped too. I pumped him too. I I've

1013
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: got a couple questions about certain guys, Like I dinged

1014
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: the Bucks skill position group pretty severely in our last episode,

1015
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: and like I heard about that since from like four

1016
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: Bucks fans.

1017
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: But like your neighbors.

1018
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: But no, just like you know, I get like three

1019
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: random tweets like what's up, bro about the Bucks situation.

1020
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know funitch for the But Mike

1021
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: Evans nine straight thousand yard seasons. I know last year

1022
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: was he was at Aka Hoots with Tom Brady on

1023
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: like four thousand deep passes, But I don't know why

1024
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: he wasn't in it prior or previously. Like he sort

1025
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: of just continues to produce consistently year after year at

1026
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: a pretty unprecedented level.

1027
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I this is kind of at odds with

1028
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 6: my statement last week that I wanted part of the solution,

1029
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 6: not part of the problem when people overlook Mike Evans.

1030
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, one of those things, though, have a problem.

1031
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: I think with this one.

1032
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 6: But yeah, I can appreciate Mike evans greatness and his

1033
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 6: consistency while also saying that he's not a superstar. And

1034
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 6: now he's ten years into a career. Are you seeing

1035
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 6: the same Mike Evans you saw when he hoisted the

1036
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 6: Lombardi Trophy with Tom Brady?

1037
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1038
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 6: I think he's still a great guy to have obviously

1039
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 6: on your team for a number of reasons, and him

1040
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 6: and Chris Godwin form a great one too. That's why

1041
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 6: I had them pretty high. Uh in the skill position countdown.

1042
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 6: We did, uh, but just just short of it. I'm

1043
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 6: more I didn't. I was more hung up on a

1044
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 6: couple other names. Terry McLaurin, yes, say from Washington, who

1045
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 6: is another guy that maybe doesn't get as much respect.

1046
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 6: But I thought his production is just a tick below

1047
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 6: and a lot of his quarterback base.

1048
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's never had anything better than a C plus courter.

1049
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 6: So give the guy a real quarterback and he's gonna

1050
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 6: he's gonna be here because look, but he's done without it.

1051
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 6: They're the guy that and you know me, I wanted

1052
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 6: to say, oh, Garrett Wilson was so good last year

1053
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 6: with some of the worst quarterback playing the entire league.

1054
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 6: He was he got open, he made tacklers miss, he

1055
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 6: was strong, he was fast, and I think Aaron Rodgers

1056
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 6: is gonna make him a superstar. But I'm not gonna

1057
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 6: get ahead of it. I'm gonna wait it out. But

1058
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 6: my eyes on that for next year.

1059
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 4: He's also on my stock up list.

1060
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: Absolutely, like I wrote, he's on the way to the

1061
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: club and a horse and buggy like he'll get there.

1062
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 3: There's no questions asked. It could have even been this year.

1063
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: I would have not really had a problem with that.

1064
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 6: I wrestled with it, if only to like maybe get

1065
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 6: a bunch of people mad at me for being a homer.

1066
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 6: Absolutely that would have been fun. And trust me that

1067
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 6: I'm not above doing.

1068
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 4: Things like leny of time for that.

1069
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, But ultimately I said, I gotta stay consistent, and

1070
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 6: I try to. You have to like earn that extra

1071
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 6: bump in terms of production rather than oh, I think

1072
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 6: he's gonna do it.

1073
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: You kind of got to see it to be a

1074
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: true superstar.

1075
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 5: I'm stuck a bit on Cooper Cup. But he had

1076
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 5: the Triple Crown the year before. It's fine.

1077
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: He played only played nine games.

1078
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: Of course, he was. He was good.

1079
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 4: He was great in those nine games.

1080
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: But for a terrible Rams teams, my club.

1081
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 5: Is difficult to get into, did you Yeah, no, I

1082
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 5: mean the offense was like crashing, like I ninety five

1083
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 5: around him while he was on the field. But it's

1084
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 5: the one name when I look at the list just

1085
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 5: because of his injury last year, just because of the

1086
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 5: disaster that was there.

1087
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: So it's really no bouncer rue, no fault of his own.

1088
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 3: You know.

1089
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 6: He won the Triple Crown in twenty one. Yeah, and

1090
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 6: single handedly even though Stafford I think got the trophy.

1091
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: He's in, he's in, he won that Super Bowl.

1092
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 4: I have some stars next to his name.

1093
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 6: Is all interesting, Well, in your defense of an otherwise

1094
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 6: deeply flawed point, Colleen, When I when I inducted him

1095
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 6: last year, I pointed out that he was always like

1096
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 6: just a good wide receiver, right, and then all of

1097
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 6: a sudden and what was like kind of a special

1098
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 6: year for the La Rams. Obviously he became you know,

1099
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 6: this s tier godlike president the Prince.

1100
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he kind of still was that guy last.

1101
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 6: Year until he hurt the angle, though I thought, I

1102
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 6: don't know, hey, listen, maybe he's no he to.

1103
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 5: Be clear, he's in, but it's just like I'm watching him.

1104
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 5: I'm watching him as the bouncer.

1105
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 6: How about Tyreek Hill? Were keeping an eye on him

1106
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 6: this year? He's aged twenty nine. He could have a suspension,

1107
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 6: but I'm not.

1108
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 3: Thinking no, no conversation right now.

1109
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: Then how will he age?

1110
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 6: If too and you know he had zero touchdowns and

1111
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 6: games Tua was out or injured, so his production is

1112
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 6: tied to the quarterback being able to put the ball

1113
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 6: in his hands.

1114
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: And he happened at Patrick Mahomes before. To a not

1115
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: even a question.

1116
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 6: Tyreek Hill is a superstar on the field.

1117
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 3: What about a him T Higgins? Any thought to T Higgins?

1118
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 4: No, I didn't really have him my list.

1119
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: I thought that he was their best wide at a

1120
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: time last year, but absolutely no thought.

1121
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 4: I think it's tough because Jamar Chase is in.

1122
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: But how about you know, I'm not gonna even mention

1123
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 3: the other guy. Yeah, well, these are guys like say

1124
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: future like horizon potential. Okay, I think Devanta Smith like

1125
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 3: I he's have a lot to do with you know,

1126
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 3: a J. Brown being there like works like Jalen Wattle,

1127
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 3: like if he keeps producing the way he's.

1128
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: These are like two of the best, maybe the two

1129
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: best second bananas in the league to me, and that Higgins,

1130
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: maybe the three best.

1131
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: Just throw a future note. Maybe maybe they don't.

1132
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 6: They have to eclipse those players, so it would be

1133
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 6: a J. Brown, Jamar Chase, what was the other name

1134
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 6: he said.

1135
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just looking at the people that are

1136
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 3: in things can happen to even Samuel's on your radar.

1137
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 6: You know, those men have to benefit from having that

1138
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 6: true number one quarterback wide receiver across them.

1139
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 5: That's all basically the Eagles, the Bengals, and I mean

1140
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 5: maybe you could all you could argue the Dolphins they

1141
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 5: have the best wide receiver duos at least.

1142
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, these second fiddles were not getting it.

1143
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about T Higgins.

1144
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: Wow, I like, that's just lot. I didn't think you

1145
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 3: probably gave it something.

1146
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 4: You mentioned him last year in the article.

1147
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: I liked the Higgins.

1148
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, another one, but we're talking superstars got it.

1149
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 3: But you also went on like a twelve minute rant

1150
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: about Jamar Chase like an episode or two ago.

1151
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 6: I didn't go on a twelve minute rant. I just

1152
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 6: said he wasn't as explosive last year. But he was

1153
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 6: still incredible. So he's a true number one wide receiver.

1154
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 6: I just I kind of liked that rookie Jamar Chase

1155
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 6: when he was just like shredding guys, catching slants and

1156
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 6: running past everyone for seventy five yards.

1157
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: We didn't see as much. His production was different.

1158
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: You're right about that.

1159
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: He was targeted more.

1160
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 6: He had I think, more catches, more yards, but it wasn't,

1161
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 6: as I guess, exciting nothing against them.

1162
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 3: See, well, this is why weren't we're trying to dig Indy.

1163
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 6: I'm clowing out of the box. Uh so I got

1164
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 6: DeAndre out. No concerns there for many one. All right,

1165
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 6: let's move on to tight end. And this I did

1166
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 6: this with my eyes closed. I had to undress the

1167
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 6: Christmas tree here a little bit as well. This is

1168
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 6: like the Charlie Brown Christmas tree.

1169
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, the tight end is one position deep, one

1170
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: player deep.

1171
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 6: And that's kind of a disgrace, quite honestly. In this

1172
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 6: era of great offense, a great quarterback plays. Why is

1173
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 6: Travis Kelsey the only true superstar.

1174
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: At tight end in the NFL?

1175
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 6: And I pulled two players off the list, Darren Waller,

1176
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 6: who's battled injury, issues. He's now a sneaky old Hall

1177
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 6: of Famer thirty one years old. The Raiders didn't want

1178
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 6: him anymore. They traded him to the Giants for a

1179
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 6: mid round draft pick, which I consider that, and then

1180
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 6: I don't really like where he's going. Did you know

1181
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 6: the Giants had only seventeen passing touchdowns last year? You

1182
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 6: know how much of the pie is Darren Waller going

1183
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 6: to get? How explosive is that offense going to be.

1184
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 6: It does help him that they don't have a lot

1185
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 6: of wide receivers, but I felt pretty comfortable taking Waller out.

1186
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: Anybody have an issue.

1187
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: He were on the Raiders, I would have taken him

1188
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 3: off it.

1189
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: In the last two seasons.

1190
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: It's just a wash up.

1191
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, the injuries, all of it.

1192
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: George Kittle off your list.

1193
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: George Kittle off the list?

1194
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: Interesting, that's interesting.

1195
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 3: I kept him on mine.

1196
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: He was a late subtraction and I struggled with it.

1197
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 4: Why what did it for you?

1198
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 6: Because he does pass the look test, so he's still

1199
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 6: got that. Like George Kittle's on the field. George Kittle

1200
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 6: gets the ball in his hands. Oh wow, it's like

1201
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 6: he's a game changer. That looks like a Star. I

1202
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 6: just don't know how often he gets the ball in

1203
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 6: his hands at this point, he continues, obviously to struggle

1204
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 6: with durability. He's twenty nine years old, he's played a

1205
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 6: full season once in his career. And then you have

1206
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 6: with Christian McCaffrey there and Deebo, Samuel and Brandon Ayuk.

1207
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 6: I just don't know how how many like his numbers

1208
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 6: are you gonna put a guy in the Superstar club

1209
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 6: if he's got you know, fifty eight catches for eight

1210
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty yards and seven touchdowns, Like, but that's.

1211
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: Me, not gonna do it for me.

1212
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 5: Maybe what he does best is just not showing up

1213
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 5: in those stat lines, all those stat lines, Like I

1214
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 5: think he should still be in. I think it's still

1215
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey and George Kittle as the two elite tight

1216
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 5: ends in the league.

1217
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: I still I have Kittle in there too, But I

1218
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: think when we talk about Kittle and Deebo and you

1219
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 3: just mentioned all the weapons in San Francisco, it's like

1220
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 3: it isn't an offense based around one star guy that

1221
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 3: compiles massive numbers.

1222
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 6: But then what do you do in it? Because like

1223
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 6: Deebo's numbers don't look. Yeah, but like depressive Debo gets

1224
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 6: his touches? Are you gets touches? McCaffrey we know gets

1225
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,479
Speaker 6: his touches. Did you know that after McCaffrey came over

1226
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 6: at the deadline, Kittle averaged four targets a game, four

1227
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 6: point two targets a game. And he is such a

1228
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 6: massive figure in their offense obviously for what he could

1229
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 6: do to the middle of the field, his blocking ability,

1230
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 6: which is.

1231
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 4: Then he loved a block.

1232
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: He loves the.

1233
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 6: Block and National tight End Day. I love all that stuff.

1234
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 6: But I just think he's in an offense that is

1235
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 6: going to depress his production and the factor in the

1236
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 6: injuries in the age, and I think he's just to

1237
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 6: tick below a superstar, which and it also I guess

1238
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 6: hurts a little bit that Travis Kelcey is as much

1239
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 6: of a superstar as anyone on this list at any position.

1240
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 6: He sets the bar high that it's like it's hard

1241
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 6: to put anyone in a category with him because he

1242
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 6: does it all.

1243
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: He produces. Thought it was a little bold. He's on

1244
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: a champion. He also obviously has the look he hosted SNL.

1245
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 4: I mean a big he's a superstar.

1246
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 6: He's a born superstar, So no newcomers and close calls.

1247
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 6: Anybody want to throw a name out there or someone

1248
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 6: that should be here or should be discussed.

1249
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 3: No, because I think it just points out that there's

1250
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 3: this second tier. Like a Mark Andrews is just clearly

1251
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 3: like an excellent tight end, super productive. That offense like

1252
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: rotates around him in many ways, but he's not a superstar.

1253
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was the one guy I thought that I

1254
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 5: was kind of wrestling with a little bit because I

1255
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 5: had Kittle in and it was Jess Travis and George Kittle.

1256
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 5: So Mark Andrews was on the cusp. But I don't

1257
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 5: think he I don't think he makes it in Maybe

1258
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 5: with all the additional targets and Todd Monkin wanting to

1259
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 5: pass more, I don't. I don't know if that's actually

1260
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 5: gonna happen, but maybe his stock goes back up.

1261
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 4: But he's not in a lot.

1262
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 6: Of mouths to the feet all of a sudden on Baltimore.

1263
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 6: Ye too, He's gonna get his touches because he gets open,

1264
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 6: he finds the end zone. But he's a he's also

1265
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 6: for all what he brings to their offense. When Lamar

1266
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 6: is healthy, he's kind of a more of a chain move.

1267
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 6: He's not a big yards after catch guy. He's at

1268
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 6: that dynamic break of tackle and take it to the house.

1269
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 6: He's just kind of that dream, get open, make the catch,

1270
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 6: moving the ball along type guy, which doesn't quite pass.

1271
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 6: And Kyle Pitts, I mean, if you would have, like

1272
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 6: we're talking about a ghost price point, if you would

1273
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 6: have talked to me last summer, I would say, oh, yeah,

1274
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 6: absolutely Pitts is going to be in this exercise. In fact,

1275
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 6: I wrote last summer that I was I was very

1276
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 6: tend to do it and put him in next last year,

1277
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 6: and then that would have been extremely embarrassing, a humiliation.

1278
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: For the old Zuser if I would have done it.

1279
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: I still believe in Pits.

1280
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 6: But again, as we talked about on the show, I'm

1281
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 6: not as bullish on the Falcons offense because who's his

1282
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 6: quarterback this year? Like who's gonna and now you add

1283
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 6: Bejon Robinson in there, who you know is going to

1284
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 6: be the focal point of that offense. And Drake London's

1285
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 6: gonna need to get the ball? Is Kyle Pitt's ever

1286
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 6: gonna find his niche in Atlanta? It's kind of now

1287
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 6: or never. It feels like, uh, for Pitts becoming a stud.

1288
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: They're gonna lead the league in rushing attempts and that

1289
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 3: depresses his value and also stay healthy.

1290
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 6: Not ruling out that Pitts could be on this list

1291
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 6: next year, but I'm less confident than ever at this point.

1292
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 4: So what tit ands? Is it usually like year three

1293
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 4: that they they jump.

1294
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, well, it was like it was if

1295
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 3: you remember doing this, like kind of deeper diver was

1296
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 3: like for most it was around year three. A year

1297
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: had to do with the offense and everything else too,

1298
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: But like Kyle Pitts would have been a year two guy,

1299
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 3: I think. But there was a crazy quarterback play. He's

1300
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: getting hurt, and now it's like you're suddenly in year

1301
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 3: three of Kyle Pitts and we have no idea what

1302
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 3: we're going to get in this offense.

1303
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 4: I hope it's good.

1304
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 6: And this was a big year obviously for tight ends

1305
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 6: in the draft. Dalton Kincaid, Michael Mayer, Darnell Washington, Sam

1306
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 6: Laporta like all these guys. Maybe we're going to see

1307
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 6: that next wave come through. But it is a little

1308
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 6: interesting that that's a position where wide receiver. We're talking

1309
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 6: about ten guys that seem like slam dunks tight end.

1310
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: It's Kelsey, maybe Kittle, dry Spell. That's it. And finally,

1311
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, when I saw this, I was just just

1312
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: kind of proud of myself that I did it last year,

1313
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: that I dove in a little little clickbaity.

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01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 4: Sure, but you followed your heart though.

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01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 6: Justin Tucker at Kicker, he did nothing last year to

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01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 6: make me look foolish. He remains swag for days, legendary

1317
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 6: billit the accuracy, like strength, the whole thing.

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01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: He is the only guy with dual.

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01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 6: Membership in the Kicker Club and the Superstar that's special

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 6: Tucker year two in the Superstar Club.

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Speaker 1: And I don't look back.

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01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 6: And if you're looking for offensive line superstars, anyone that

1323
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 6: plays defense, gunners on special teams punters, go find Brian Baldinger,

1324
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 6: who's probably parasaling somewhere in Paraguay if you could find him,

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01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 6: ask him. I'm just digging into this fun stuff here

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01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 6: because that's what I feel like doing this time of year.

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01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 6: But that those positions, those are the superstars in the league.

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01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 6: I think it's twenty three and before it, because I

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 6: still have a window here. After we wrap up today,

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01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go write the piece. What did I get

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01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 6: so wrong that I need to I need to think

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01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 6: it over before dive it in.

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01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 5: Is there anything that pops into your head now? You

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 5: tell me, Josh acups, Maybe that's right.

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01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 3: That's where I think you're gonna get a lot of heat.

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01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 4: Josh comes a superstar, just like take it under advisement.

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01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: Rushing champion.

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01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: I didn't have him in mind, though, so I can't

1339
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:10,959
Speaker 3: you know, I'm talking on both sides of my mouth.

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01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: Anything else that I really.

1341
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 3: No, because I think the exercise sort of shows that

1342
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 3: there hasn't been a lot of like earthquake level movements

1343
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 3: since a year ago.

1344
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 4: We were all pretty aligned.

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01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 6: The DAK thing we feel good about before we send

1346
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 6: this thing out there to the masses.

1347
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna I'm still little.

1348
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: I want to talk TALKYOI.

1349
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Speaker 6: That is one of my favorites. That's a great line

1350
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 6: f Travis Travis Kelcey. That's respect for Travis Kelcey. I

1351
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 6: hope you can play this on his podcast, the only

1352
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 6: tight end in the Superstar Club literally in a classic Have.

1353
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 3: You on his show?

1354
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 6: Maybe I would love to join the Brothers Kelsey, We're

1355
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 6: okay with you. Guys weren't happy about John at the tailor.

1356
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: It seemed.

1357
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 3: I just don't really, you know, it seems to go

1358
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 3: skirt the rules of what's happening here just a little bit.

1359
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: How so, because I think it's largely based off.

1360
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: To prove it to me, it's not. It's not a

1361
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: leap in logic.

1362
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 6: It's like he did it and then he had a

1363
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 6: season wrecked by injuries and almost like historic.

1364
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 5: Like okay, so then what about Russell Wilson his performance

1365
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 5: last year?

1366
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 6: Wilson looked like a player and declined, And what about

1367
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 6: Dak Prescott who had an injury and had some you know,

1368
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 6: ups and downs. I think I made my point very

1369
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 6: clear that Deak just kind of seems is leveled off

1370
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 6: at a at a very good level in terms of

1371
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 6: his play. And I don't see that leap too, that

1372
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 6: that next level that it.

1373
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 3: Just feels like someone kind of like snuck Jonathan Taylor

1374
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 3: into the club for the back door.

1375
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 6: That's that's fun, all right, You didn't make a good

1376
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 6: enough case he's staying in the club. How about Shane

1377
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 6: Steichen about Anthony Richardson, how about uh, you know, this

1378
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 6: offensive line coming together and saying that's never happening ever again.

1379
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 6: I could see that and the stars lining and the

1380
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 6: cults are pretty damn competitive next.

1381
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 4: Year them to be competitive. Well made you happen?

1382
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: What happened with you? Last last summer?

1383
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 3: Ellen was going off about the cults.

1384
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 5: I can't, I can't go like it was the Colts

1385
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 5: I was hugely high on and then the Broncos so

1386
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 5: I it was just because of death for both franchises And.

1387
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: Can I make one more before we sign off?

1388
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 3: Remember when I became a Titans fin.

1389
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: That was huge Graver. Graver was not shy about bringing

1390
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: it up either.

1391
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 3: No, He's put on online polls on Twitter and stuff

1392
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 3: for that.

1393
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 1: Like let's let's let's finish up with an online poll,

1394
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: simple question, colon, is Ceedee Lamb a superstar? And I

1395
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: think this shows the gumption of the old zeuster a

1396
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: little bit. The public said.

1397
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 6: Out of almost ten thousand votes, seventy seventy point two

1398
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 6: percent said no, Ceedee Lamb.

1399
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Speaker 1: Not a superstar.

1400
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 4: Wow.

1401
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 6: Only twenty nine point eight said yes, but he is

1402
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 6: in the superstar club. Someone somebody on Twitter replied to

1403
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 6: one of these two poles, like stop having other people

1404
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 6: do your work, you know, decide for yourself. Well take this, buddy,

1405
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 6: stick this in your pipe and smoke it.

1406
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 3: The problem was that tweet came from Ali Bonpori, your editor.

1407
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 3: But also if you don't add CD Lamb just from

1408
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: an article writing perspective, you add no one new to

1409
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 3: the club.

1410
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: Right, we got a we got your name.

1411
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 3: Twist the dial here. This is how this thing's work.

1412
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: And I could listen. I could have done, I could

1413
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: have tweaked. Some people put.

1414
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 6: Garrett Wilson in there, but I think integrity was important.

1415
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 6: I kept him knocking on the door, and we slide

1416
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 6: in ceedee Lamb, and hopefully he makes us all look

1417
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 6: good with a fifteen hundred yard season, including a four

1418
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 6: touchdown game and the season finale against the Eagles.

1419
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 5: To take that, I knew that was coming.

1420
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 4: I could see it in your eyes that it was coming.

1421
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 5: I do have to ask, will Garrett Wilson be mentioned

1422
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 5: in your article?

1423
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: He will be.

1424
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 6: He'll be the bulk of the article. Right, all right,

1425
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 6: we'll be back on Thursday. Connie, if you can join us,

1426
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 6: please do. If you if you have some summer of

1427
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 6: Connie activities, we'll understand.

1428
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 4: That that's wonderful. I love this arrangement.

1429
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 6: So maybe you see Connie or here Connie on Thursday,

1430
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 6: maybe not. We definitely will have Patrick Clayband with us

1431
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 6: UH to talk some what.

1432
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 3: If I have something you need to do somewhere related.

1433
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: You are right here. I'm not going anywhere. If you

1434
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: want to talk, your talk, YO. That's that's what that's

1435
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: my reply to you. Mark.

1436
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 3: You can't argue with Block, can't. I'm taking that very seriously.

1437
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 1: All Right, We're out of here until next time. Keep

1438
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:21,959
Speaker 1: the call.

1439
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 7: H