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Speaker 1: We're back for another episode of Big Blue Kickoff live

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Speaker 1: right here on Giants dot Com. John Schmilk, Howard Crossed.

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Speaker 1: The phone number for you is two on three. Hashtag

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Speaker 1: Giants Chat on Twitter if you want to get in

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Speaker 1: touch with us that way. The Giants getting ready for

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Speaker 1: their first preseason game of the season, taking on the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and MetLife Stadium on Thursday night. Howard, Hello,

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Speaker 1: good morning, afternood afternoon afternoon. John. Okay, how I'm doing well? UM,

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Speaker 1: A couple of things I want to get to you

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Speaker 1: before we get to you with you, before we get

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Speaker 1: to the calls. A number one, what's the most important

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Speaker 1: thing is that old school Howard Cross pick you got

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Speaker 1: right there for Alabama. It's Alabama, very good. I want

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Speaker 1: you to retweet that. UM, talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: what the most important things you look for as a

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Speaker 1: former player, not even position wise, player wise from the Giants,

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Speaker 1: but just from quality of football overall. What are you

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Speaker 1: watching for for players first preseason game of the year.

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Speaker 1: You know, it depends on the player and what's going on.

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Speaker 1: First off, you'd like to see some some positive play

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Speaker 1: from the offensive line standpoint you you'd like to see

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Speaker 1: them run the ball. I know they want to see

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Speaker 1: some of the quarterback web, but you like to run them.

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Speaker 1: I don't care who the running back is in the game,

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Speaker 1: whether it's say Kwan or or any any the other

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Speaker 1: host backs they have. I want to see some positive plays.

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Speaker 1: Run the ball. Uh. That that shows the off of

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Speaker 1: the lines, kind of clicking together. That shows that you're

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Speaker 1: moving forward. That shows your aggression um and keeps you

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Speaker 1: from being on your heels. That's perfect. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see them complete a pass over ten yards a couple

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Speaker 1: and that just shows that you've got a little tim

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Speaker 1: and going. And it shows also that you have your

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Speaker 1: receivers are own point making breaks and stuff not. You

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Speaker 1: don't want you can throw it deep if you want to,

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Speaker 1: but just a couple of plays over ten yards, just

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Speaker 1: to see if you can one to three five pop,

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Speaker 1: let's let's get it going. And then from a stick

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Speaker 1: from a defensive standpoint. I'd like to see uh, one

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Speaker 1: to maybe even three three and ounce. You'd like to

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Speaker 1: see them collective make decisions quick. Uh. You know, no

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Speaker 1: yards on first down, put them in a second and long,

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Speaker 1: try to keep them in third and long. Getting dn't

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Speaker 1: get off the field and and no bus right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that goes to communication, right, to make sure

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Speaker 1: these guys are on the same page. Yeah, but you can.

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Speaker 1: But if you see them do the three and ounce

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Speaker 1: and you know the team didn't just the quarterback just

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Speaker 1: didn't throw it into the stands something. You want to

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Speaker 1: see them literally be in position, fill all the gaps

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Speaker 1: in the run, be in position in the past game,

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Speaker 1: so there's no run after catch or the balls being

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Speaker 1: knocked down, and you can get them off the field quickly.

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Speaker 1: So did you go back and regroup and get ready

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Speaker 1: for him to give Now you'll see the James Betcher

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Speaker 1: interview I did on the TV show on MSG tonight.

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Speaker 1: Howard's on it as well, and he talked about tackling

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Speaker 1: UM back in your day when you were in training

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Speaker 1: camp back during the Nixon administration. Um, we had you

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Speaker 1: guys did tackle in the training camp. Right. They don't

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Speaker 1: do that anymore. That's not allowed. It's taboo. You're not

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Speaker 1: guys go from not tackling for the last eight months?

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Speaker 1: Pretty much you just haven't Tackleton's last descent and burn.

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Speaker 1: Some of them weren't tackling them. They were trying to

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Speaker 1: that how did they turn flip the switch here and

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Speaker 1: and and how do they just you know, start doing

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Speaker 1: especially with some of the new rules at the I

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Speaker 1: was about to say, it's even harder this year with

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Speaker 1: the rules if you think about it, you know, getting

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Speaker 1: they're going basically into a rugby style of football. You

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Speaker 1: a rugby style of tackling. Rugby is played without helmets,

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Speaker 1: How much has been like write this, So now what

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Speaker 1: Of course the backs can't lower their heads either, but

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Speaker 1: He comes through the hole, he's one of one with

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Speaker 1: down to hit and left. So now he's got to

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of this. So they don't

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Speaker 1: know what they've done. They've tried to figure it out

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Speaker 1: that they're trying to be legislate it. But that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for. How long is it going to be ugly.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be ugly for a while. It's gonna it's

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Speaker 1: going to depend if it's if it's like the five

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Speaker 1: five five yards where a great play down field are oh,

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Speaker 1: you know the ball was dropped, uh past interference or

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Speaker 1: Then I try to call more of those, Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: we like to see more points. One thing we talked

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Speaker 1: most three or four defenses, and traditionally when the Giants

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Speaker 1: played the three four and you're here, it's a two

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Speaker 1: gaps system. For the fans that don't understand what that means,

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Speaker 1: it's the job of the defensive lineman to occupy offensive

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Speaker 1: and make plays. You're not being asked to penetrate. Your

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Speaker 1: have the basics of that correct? Kind of what happens

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Speaker 1: is you hit the guy, and guy hit on you

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Speaker 1: someone else considers. Now, traditionally that's what mostly four defenses are.

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Speaker 1: James Betcher works things a little bit differently. He's runs

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Speaker 1: his three four defense. Again, this is just base. Once

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Speaker 1: it's not okay, you're responsible for that for that that

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Speaker 1: And they was Dalvin cook after the year too, Dalvin

429
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: Cooking after the year, and they still found a way

430
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 1: to win. Get the ball down the field, the backs

431
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 1: look great, and running the ball, the backs look great

432
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield. The screen game looked great.

433
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 1: There were so many things that offense could do that.

434
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't have an Odell Belcam on that team.

435
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 1: You didn't have a Sake Sake on on that team

436
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 1: for the entire year. It was just you know, they

437
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 1: did well the entire season. And I like that. And

438
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,919
Speaker 1: if he brings that here and he does that with

439
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 1: the Giants, you've got different talents to get that done.

440
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 1: All right. Who are your too quote unquote pet cats

441
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 1: on this team? One on offense, one on defense. It's

442
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: easy on offense. You know, I would say that it

443
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 1: would be Eli And I just think that. Uh. You know,

444
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: I love Ingram, I love I love I love Backham.

445
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: I love all these guys and I know them all.

446
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 1: They're all great guys. Love him to death. Uh, But Eli,

447
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 1: I like. I think my soft spots for Eli because

448
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: I've watched him battle when he didn't have protection. I've

449
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: watched him battle and get up and never throw a

450
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: guy into the bus and fight when no one else believes.

451
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 1: I've heard people like, oh, you know, Eli should be

452
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: He's not there. I listened to the pundits talking about

453
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 1: how bad it is. I listen to everybody. Kids shows

454
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 1: up every week, takes his butt kicking every week, even

455
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: when he should have had He had some years he

456
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 1: could have been, you know, in the playoffs every year

457
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 1: with enough protection. Just never had it. And he never

458
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: complained and you never heard anything in the paper. You

459
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: never heard anybody say anything. He just went to work.

460
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: Song spot for Eli on the defense I think as

461
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: looking at him. I love Landing, roll Tide Alabama, Thomason,

462
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: Roll Tide Alabama. But Snacks, and the reason why I

463
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: like Snacks probably is that here's the guy that knows

464
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: his job, number one run stopper, that he's probably pro football,

465
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: whatever that thing reading is. He's one of the top

466
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: guys every year, doesn't get any recognition for it, but

467
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: he just continues to do it. Like I get everything

468
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: with the guy in the Rams, I get everything with

469
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: the guys in Tampa. I get everything with all these

470
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: so quote unquote, these are the best. These guys are

471
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: the greatest guys ever. Weekend we got. You cannot run

472
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: at snacks, snacks, beas double team snacks, beats one on

473
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: one block snacks, stop guys in the field. You know,

474
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: he had a chance at three or four sacks last year.

475
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: The guy just barely got away from him. So he's

476
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: doing his job and then something. And he's a team

477
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: leader without saying he's a team leader, not trying to

478
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 1: be a team leader. When people go talk to him,

479
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: he gets a you know, quiet, humble answer. But those

480
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: guys come to him, they depend on him. So those

481
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 1: two guys and my guys offensively, I'm gonna go with

482
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,239
Speaker 1: Stirling Shepherd. I just think he's such a good kid,

483
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: and he cares, and any kind of low key cares,

484
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's not a guy that's

485
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,239
Speaker 1: gonna be out there in flash and do all these

486
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 1: crazy things and make him and be the center of attention.

487
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: But he was out there. He tries to block things

488
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: like that to do his job. Um and I just

489
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 1: I think he might as great as O'Dell is as

490
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: an athlete. Precise route running stone Shepherd's fantastic. It's very

491
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: hard to stay with him. I think he's gonna have

492
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: a big year. I think the ankle kind of heard

493
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: him last year a little bit, and then the offense

494
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: just kind of fell apart and he didn't have a

495
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: chance to break out in year two. I love him

496
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: for a breakout year three. Defense. I have a friend

497
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: sign up. I don't have one yet. I think there

498
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: are a lot of new guys in this defense. I

499
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: want to see how they play. You know, just Justin

500
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: Tuk used to be my guy. I love talk a

501
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: p before that love dap um, I don't. I love landing.

502
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't have a guy yet. Okay is that fair?

503
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: That's fair enough answer the question? Or you want not

504
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: there yet? Okay, dude, call me back and call me

505
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: back at the bye and maybe I'll have my guy

506
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: for you. Let's go to line one. Jeffrey Roode Island.

507
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: He's up next. What's up, Jeff Hey, good afternoon, John,

508
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Big number eight seven. Okay, I'm doing fine,

509
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 1: Thank you? Are you? John? I just had a question

510
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: about one of our new acquisitions, Josh, Josh Marrow. I

511
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: was wondering, uh, if you know, watch him out this,

512
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: wondering how he's moving around, so on and so forth.

513
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: He's been really good against the run, to be quite honest,

514
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: and what I've seen in practice, Uh, he's in the

515
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: backfield a lot. He's a big kid. He's your classic

516
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: old school in my opinion, at least five technique defensive

517
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: end in three or four defense. He's not gonna flash

518
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: and rush the pass a whole lot. He's not bending

519
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: the edge on you. But he's gonna be where you

520
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: need to be. I know he's not gonna be there

521
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: for the first four games of the year because of

522
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: the suspension Howard, but I think he's gonna fit that

523
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: role extremely well on first and second down. Kind of

524
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: like a Curry win kind of guy. Last a guy

525
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: that you can depend on them to be there for

526
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: you a game in and game out. Knows his role, uh,

527
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: not not afraid to take his role, and doesn't try to,

528
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, scream that I'm not getting enough opportunities at

529
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: something else when he just be good at what you

530
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: can do. Great, and that's good. I anxious to watch

531
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: the game tomorrow night's uh. Seeing as last season ended

532
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: before the middle of October last here, I'm anxious to

533
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: see what's going on. Thank you for your contributions as

534
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: uh and being a great giant, Howard. Thank you very much.

535
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you guys, have a good day.

536
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: Appreciate Jason's up next? What's up, Jason? Hey, what's up? Guys?

537
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: What's up? Buddy? Hey, not much. I just have a

538
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: question for you. I don't want to be on here long,

539
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: but so so I'll I'll just ask it and then

540
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: get off the air. Uh. I'm hearing about the two

541
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: tight ends at where there's two tight ends on the field,

542
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering if you guys can can talk

543
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: to us a little bit about what are the advantages

544
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: of having two tight ends on the field, but also

545
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: what is the disadvantage of having two tight ends on

546
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: the field. And I'll I'll get off with that. Thank you, Jason,

547
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: appreciate the call, Howard. This is all you go ahead.

548
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: The first off advantages when when teams round to the

549
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: field the defense of the the opposite side of the field,

550
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 1: whoever it is, they're trying to determine the personnel. Uh.

551
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: Eleven personnels, one tight end, three wideouts, twelve personnels, two

552
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: tight ends, one back, one personnel, two backs, uh you know, uh,

553
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: one tight end. So they're constantly trying to determine the personnel. Uh.

554
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: The personnel kind of dictates in some cases what they're

555
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: going to do during during the play series, whether it's

556
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: run the ball off it's two tight ends, sometimes three

557
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: tight ends and run the ball. What if you have

558
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: two tight ends that can play from from the stationary

559
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: in line position, which is right by the tackle, one

560
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: guy can play from the backfield, which would would mimic

561
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: the twenty one personnel, or one guy splits out of

562
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: one guy stays in, which mimics the eleven personnel, or

563
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: both guys split out, which mimics of you know, the

564
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: the four four wides. You can have two tight ends,

565
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: you can do all of that disadvantage. That really isn't

566
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: a disadvantage unless that guy isn't a good in line

567
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: or coming out of the backfield block. If it's a

568
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: short yardage play. So if it's third in one or

569
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: third and an inch and you need to get that

570
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: inch and that guy's gotta lead through on somebody, you

571
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: need that guy to be able to do it. That

572
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: could be a disadvantage. But that there's not that many

573
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: fullbacks left in the league anyway, So there's there's where

574
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: you there's what a kind of the rub is um.

575
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: Two good players, two really good players can mask a

576
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: lot of your offense and you can do more from it,

577
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: and it threatens the defense because the defense can't tell personnel, drives, plays, tendencies.

578
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: If it's two guys that are coming into the game,

579
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: whether it's a two regular guys, are two different guys,

580
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: but they can still do anything out of any formation.

581
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: It's just an advantage. And I think what's interesting with

582
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: the Giants they have Read Ellison while consider more of

583
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: an old school, you know, traditional tight end, and then

584
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: they have Evan Ingram who's almost kind of like a

585
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: receiver on a tight ends body. Right, he can block

586
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. But so they even though they're rolling

587
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: out twelve personnel, think of it this way, right, Ellison

588
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: play in the backfield from Minnesota lot so you can

589
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: almost mimic one personnel by using all of sudden the fullback.

590
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: If you want to split Evan Ingram out wide all

591
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, even though you have two tight ends

592
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: in the game, it looks like eleven person al right,

593
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: because you've got three guys out wide, one title on

594
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: the line, of one running back in the back. And

595
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: Ingram played the outside guy a lot last year because

596
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: everybody was hurt. And we've seen Odell Beckham a lot

597
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: in the slot this year, so that's something we could

598
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: see again. And then, by the way, not to mention

599
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: se Kwon Barclay's versatility, you can motion him out of

600
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: the backfield and go em be set and almost looked

601
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: like four wide with one tight end of the line

602
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: there if you want to. So there's a lot of

603
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: different things you can do. Yeah, And and and fans don't

604
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: realize that that that slot position, you're not usually running

605
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: way down the field. You're running five yard house eight

606
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: yard outs. You're making quick kids, slant and things like that.

607
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: So Allison can actually also do that from the slit position.

608
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: And you bring in Adams and you don't really lose

609
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: anything when you bring it Adams and Allison you can

610
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: mix and match, you can do a lot with them,

611
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: and it's it's a little scary for defenses if they're

612
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: looking at it, especially if they have success early. Yeah,

613
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: and you can pa said of a run formation. You

614
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: can run out of a pass formation, which is really

615
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: the trick had because the whole point here is you

616
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: want to get the defensive personnel on the field to

617
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: create some kind of mismatch for your offense, right, and

618
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: when you have guys that can do multiple things and

619
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: playing different spots, I feel like the chance of doing

620
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: that is probably increased a little bit. I think mismatches

621
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: one thing. I think guessing who's on the fielding what

622
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: they're going to run is more of of of the thing.

623
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: Mismatches happen when you're out in passing situations. And again

624
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: the guys passed the line of screen yea, yeah, you

625
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: emotion Barkley and he's want on one on the lineback

626
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: or whatever what you want is for when they look

627
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: up and they're trying to determine what plays coming at

628
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: them because they see the personnel and the field, they're

629
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: squeezing down trying to get ready for a run, and

630
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the tight end split out. So

631
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: now you've got two guys who are run stoppers trying

632
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: to stand outside, and you've taken them a little further

633
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: away from the line of scrimmage. And now if you're

634
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: running the ball, they gotta run back in to try

635
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: to get in on the play. And if you have

636
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: a linebacker one on one with Evan Ingram, you're finished.

637
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: If you have linebacker one on one with say Kwan Barkley,

638
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: you're finished. Yeah, So you're this matchups and it's it's

639
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: mostly like they if if you put guys in the game,

640
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: like okay, we're gonna put in the sub package to

641
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: try to prevent them from throwing the ball. Alright, twelve

642
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: person down and now they're lining up tighten and running

643
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: right at you. So you gotta be able to you know,

644
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: football has changed so much to be more of a

645
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: specialty thing where you know, back in the day, Lawrence Pepper,

646
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: uh Bank Cee and whoever the other guy would be

647
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: from time to time never left the field. Like they

648
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: played first, second, third, third and long. They basically played

649
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: in the game. And now we have a first down guy,

650
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: you have a first, and you have a second, a

651
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: second and five first down guy. You got a second

652
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: and long guy that comes in. You got a third

653
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: down guy, so you've got You've got people to dare job.

654
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the relief picture, but like years ago,

655
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: there was no relief pictures, and now of a sudden,

656
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: you gotta a guy to get you from the seventh

657
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: of the eighth inning. If you're lucky, you've got a

658
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: guy who just throws the left handers when it comes in.

659
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: You've got all these different guys and it's part of

660
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: the game. The game has changed that much. So when

661
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: you're running the same two guys out on the field

662
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: to play multiple positions, all those specially guys are over

663
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: there waiting to get in the game, but they don't

664
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: know when they need to be in and how they're

665
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: going to use them. Well, for more in the tight end,

666
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: let's go to Scott New Mexico. He's up next day. Scott,

667
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: Good morning, guys, how are you? What's up? Very good? Uh?

668
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: This question is sort of directed at Howard. Uh. There's

669
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: a lot of great tight ends in the NFL. Rob Gronkowsey,

670
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates, Tyler right for Travis Kelsey, and all of

671
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: them seem to be able to catch and block officiently

672
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: and with Evan Ingram because he's basically for being a

673
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: great receiver and is starting to learn how to be

674
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: a great blocker. But I was wondering, from your perspective,

675
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: can you actually teach someone or is it a natural

676
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: given to delity to block, or are there techniques you

677
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: can learn to make you that classification of block or

678
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: whether you can actually be a weapon as a blocker

679
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: as well as a receiver. I think Grunt is a

680
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: better blocker because Grunt used to gets matched up with

681
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Safety's is he's running Uh, he's usually consider the past

682
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: receiver and people don't really think of him that big

683
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: and running games. Kelsey is he doesn't block anybody. I

684
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: like Kelsey. He's a nice guy. And you know, the

685
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: big guys that actually do block, you don't get to

686
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: hear their names that much, and you don't you don't

687
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: really really talk about them. I think on par with

688
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: the guys who are blocking now, Ingram's on par with

689
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: these guys. I think a willing and able body that

690
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: will get in there and mix it up. You see him,

691
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: he's not really blowing guys off the ball, but he's

692
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: not his guy's not penetrating into the backfield. He didn't

693
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: lose a lot of blocks last year. He's basically walling

694
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: and sealing, just you know, like to j No would

695
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: check back in the day, would just come across and

696
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: come across the offensive line and basically get in front

697
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: of a guy that was rushing and you just have

698
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: to run over him to get to make the tackle.

699
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't. It takes a long time to run

700
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: over and he's in your shoelaces and you're all tied

701
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: up with him. Then he get then you get off.

702
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: And Ingram does better than that. I think Ingram actually

703
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: makes a little pop on the line. He's able to

704
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: hand in it because remember most guys are trying to

705
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: get a jam on him, fire off of him to

706
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: make sure he just just run freely down the field.

707
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: So when it gets a little bump on you all

708
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden, if it's a quick, kidding play, you

709
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: know that's that's what you're looking for. I don't think,

710
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: or I don't know if he's going to be one

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00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: on one with one of the bigger defensive ends and

712
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: be able to block him and hold point of attack

713
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: for a whole play. That's a lot to ask for

714
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: his size, but I think if you ask him to

715
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: do it, he would try to do it. He's willing,

716
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: he's willing. I don't think he's gonna back down from it.

717
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: And I think that every time he tries, he's gonna

718
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: get a little better and he's not gonna be like, man,

719
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: that dude's too big, didn't even run that ball the

720
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: other way. He's really gonna get after it. In your opinion,

721
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: who is the best blocking receiving tight end in the Lakes?

722
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: They really want to tell you, even even Witten who

723
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: was here the other day, who's retired, who they always

724
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: said was a great blocking tight end witness he was

725
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: a much better blocker when he was younger his last

726
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: four or five years. And the leaves just getting in

727
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: the struggles, getting in the way. I mean, you just

728
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: don't fine guys like, like I said, the guys that

729
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: we know of, how about Earth's think Earth blocks well?

730
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: I think the guy that we have here, he's probably

731
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: the better blocking and receiving tight end. If you want

732
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: to try to label all guys as a dual quote

733
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: unquote dual threat, like Hunter, Henri doesn't block a whole

734
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: lot put ground in the game against a short yard

735
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: and goal line and try to run the ball outside

736
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: of Grunk. He's gonna have a hard time, even though

737
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: Grunk's a big, strong guy. Just it's just not they're

738
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: just not doing it. And here's the other thing about it,

739
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: and that this is never going to change, or it

740
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: might change a little bit, it's never gonna change. They're

741
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: not practicing it. And what I mean by that is

742
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: that they're not able to have. There's not a lot

743
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: of full contact practices where you get to practice, Hey,

744
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: tight end linebackers over here, Let's get a little one

745
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: on one, Hey, tight end Stephen's events over here. Let's

746
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: get a little outside inside run. Let's see you guys,

747
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: how are you gonna do that? Like, there's just not

748
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: a lot of that anymore. Because again, you know, we

749
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: just had a brief concussions discussion off the record and

750
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: our only record, whatever you wanna call it. But they

751
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: just they're eliminating all that from practice. So you're eliminated.

752
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to talk about it and you know,

753
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: imagine it and try to put it in. Yeah, and

754
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: put that in for breaking out to some piano behind

755
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: but if you can't do that in perspective at that moment,

756
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: it's hard to do just just just and again, these

757
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: these numbers are are what they are. They're not the

758
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: Bible banding means. But if you go and you take

759
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: a look at the highest rated blocking tight ends by

760
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus last year, Howard, you're right, you're talking

761
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: Vance McDonald. Not not a household name. Um David Morgan

762
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: from Minnesota. Not a household name. UM Jeff Swain from Dallas.

763
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: Not a household name exactly. Uh, Mercedes Lewis who obviously

764
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: with Jacksonville for a long time. He's a very good blocker.

765
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: Um dween Allan from New England is a guy that's

766
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: on that list. Would be the guy Austin Hooper, a

767
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: guy in Atlanta. Who I who's another one from uh

768
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: Levine and TOI lolo another guy. Again, these are if

769
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: you if you want to be the dual threat guy

770
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: out of Mercedes Lewis will be the closest one out

771
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: of Jacksonville. So, like har and I were saying, these guys,

772
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: you know, these kind of big receiving guys to catch

773
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: all these passes. Teams aren't asking these guys to block. Yeah,

774
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: they're they're basically powerful, not even powerful us. I think

775
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: they're the they're the three position. They're the swing guy

776
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: in there and are running routes and you know Ingram

777
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: Um Graham, Um, even Jimmy Graham. Yeah, you got guys

778
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: that are tray, big long, athletic guys that can move

779
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: get down to field as you want them to, swish

780
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: and andition is as my man from the Knicks would say.

781
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: But but they're not you know, pounding going in. There's

782
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: there's not an Oakley in the group, so to speak.

783
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: You know, so there's not a big Barkley in the group.

784
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: Even though Barkley became one of those guys that the

785
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: end of his career he wanted to score, he didn't

786
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: want to like going there and bang as much at

787
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: the end of his career. But so you're looking at

788
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: guys that you know, and it's not a knock on

789
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: tight end position. It's just the game changed. Yeah, the

790
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: teams are asking for different characteristics from the position. When

791
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: you watch football now, when you watch high school football,

792
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: I've seen seven on seven practices and they run seven

793
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: on seven camps and it's it's a big deal. Is

794
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: on ESPN. They're running. They don't run inside run camps.

795
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't run nine on seven camps. They

796
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: they would show up the inside camps. Get it out.

797
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: You know, Like this guy's ranked the top three, he's

798
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: a top one guy, he's a top fifty guy. Like okay,

799
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: like he's playing against air. But that's what they're doing.

800
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: You know, you've got guys like Howard's team, Little Howard's

801
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: team in St. Joe's out there in Montville, New Jersey.

802
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: They're five offensive linemen our Division one players, five guys

803
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: of the Division one. So you would think, what do

804
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna gonna run the ball every now. No,

805
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: they're like trying to figure out, okay, who can catch

806
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: the ball and who can I'm like that. It's just

807
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: amazing to me. This question is probably impossible for you

808
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: to answer, but asking anyway, if you with your body

809
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: type in size, we're heading from high school to college

810
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: today and you were the same measurements you were going

811
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: from high school to college when you you know, back

812
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: in the day, back in the day now, or I

813
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't be playing in college with it, I'd be playing basketball. See,

814
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: I thought you wouldn't be an offensive tackle. You don't

815
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: think if I'm as I sit now, No, no, no, no.

816
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: If if you were coming from high school to a

817
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: college program today, at the same height and weight you

818
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: were when you went from high school to college back

819
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: in the day, would you be a tight end? Would

820
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: you be a tackle? I'd be playing basketball. Really yeah,

821
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: I was six ft four coming out of high school. Really, remember,

822
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: I had no idea. Sports isn't the same now as

823
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: it was back when we when I grew up. It's

824
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: specialized now and back then everyone played everything. I'm a

825
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: little older and useful. I was a foreign to meter

826
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: track guy. You know, I ran fifty something four in

827
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: the meters like I could get it was it hard

828
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: for you to put on the way you had to

829
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: put on it. It It took forever, like it was. It

830
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: was a joke. You like when you're and when you're

831
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: in tabolism slows down there. The weight doesn't stop with it,

832
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: it just it just keeps coming. Duet the trust. So

833
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: like I read four the meters in track. I was

834
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: an all state basketball player, so I played you know,

835
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: I played mostly center, but I played the swing guy

836
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: mostly in games. So our games never ended until state.

837
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: So you leave state in basketball, you go right over

838
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: to the track and start running. So like your your

839
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: seasons where you showed up at fall after working your

840
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: butt off in summertime, either bell and hey or doing

841
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: something that we're in the farm, you show up because

842
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: you want, Like I go to spring summer practice to

843
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: to practice to get out of doing work on the farm.

844
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: So like I'm working on the farm, grinding hot, sweaty summers. Okay,

845
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna go put on pass and run. Thank you,

846
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: thank you coming to him coming to practice, and you'd

847
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: run all day the season. Within the football, we were

848
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: a horrible team season. Within the football, I'd be one

849
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: of the first guys to show up for basketball. I'm

850
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: starting in basketball for a sophomore. Through my senior year.

851
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: Were you like wearing shoes and you and all of stuff.

852
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: Where he climbing up to the hill, you weren't climbing

853
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: up in hills. It was like it's just like it

854
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: was just we constantly played something. Yeah, I mean like

855
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, now you got a you you got all

856
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: these different things. Like we ran track almost up until

857
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: late May, and you know, school in Alabama ends in May.

858
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: Doesn't end in June like it does here. You guys

859
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: don't started September. They've already started school in Alabama. Just

860
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: to have some reference from what it's like today because

861
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: little Howard, Yeah, I'm not sure if it is a

862
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: public where he's going, kind of saying that I don't know.

863
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: He's in school, Okay, right, what for? And he plays

864
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: defensive line. Right, what's generally like the height weight for

865
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: high level high school kids on the defensive line. You

866
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: can look at the top three hundred, top four hundred,

867
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: top whatever you wanna call. Howard is six ft two,

868
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: two hundred sixty pounds, and he's considered undersized. He's undersized

869
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: at six to sixty as a junior going into a

870
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: senior year, he was considered in the size and like

871
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: schools will looking colleges and look at him, going like

872
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 1: long arms. He's extremely long arms. Yeah, extremely long arms.

873
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: And that's why college is like, dude, he can play.

874
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: And it shocked me even I'm looking like I was, like,

875
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: look at the kids at abound six five six five

876
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: six five six five six four or six five six five,

877
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: Like you look around the country, there are guys that

878
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: are like monstrous he's six too long arms he can play.

879
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, next up out enjoy yourself. But

880
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: like I said, his offensive line is averages to eight

881
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: two ninety. His offensive line, his the end, the places

882
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: opposite of him, and six ft four to five, six

883
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: ft five to forty five. These kids I didn't see

884
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: kids like just I got to college. I just didn't

885
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: see them. And they're playing against kids that big. It's

886
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: it's just different that all they do is work out, eat, workout,

887
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: study and do a lot of you know, they do

888
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: a lot of, uh we call a community service stuff

889
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: because of the school. But every sport is like, hey,

890
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: why don't you go play lacrosse? You played across one year.

891
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, that's good. That's crazy. I want to

892
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: do that too much. Running Like I hold you gonna

893
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: play basketball? Kid came dribble, can't do anything like okay.

894
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: So he's a football player. So in the mold of

895
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: of of athletes, that's what he does. And football is

896
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: different from from the other sports. If he's a baseball player,

897
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: play baseball all year around, your elbow gets sore, your

898
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: shoulder gets football is you play your ten or twelve

899
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: games However, many games you play in high school and

900
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: then you're trained to get your body better so that

901
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: you'll be faster and stronger and ready to go the

902
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: next time they ask you to put your body out

903
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: there for ten games. So it's just this alright, two

904
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: more calls before we say goodbye. Eric in Connecticut is

905
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: back after we lost him earlier in the show. Eric,

906
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: what's up? Pal? Do it alright? Eric? What's up? Oh? Yeah?

907
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: I just want to know how the production is going

908
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: with Roger Lewis and Wayne Gollman. I know that they

909
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: were there last year and I just feel like, uh

910
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: not got the team out to them, but like that

911
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: they you know, they put in the time after last

912
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: year they went through the three and third team stress.

913
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 1: You know, Roger Lewis was a big part of our team.

914
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: And I know that Cody Latimer has been canna all

915
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: to talk about the wide receiver's three physicians and how

916
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: do you guys think he's looking there? Um, Lewis hasn't

917
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: done a ton. He's made some plays with that second group.

918
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: Lattimer and Sharp have kind of been rotating with with

919
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: with group number two, and Lewis has kind of been

920
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: with Davis Webb for most of the spring and summer.

921
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: He's made some plays, He's gone down the field a

922
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: little bit. Um I would probably say he's been Webb's

923
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: favorite receiver over the course of the off season. But

924
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: for a guy like Lewis, to me Howard, it's gonna

925
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: be about the games. And the same thing for Goldman.

926
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: You can't really see a ton from a running back,

927
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: at least from my perspective, on the sideline of guys

928
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: aren't trying to tackle him in practice. He's kind of

929
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: just running around. Guys just thumping him a little bit.

930
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: I need to see these guys in games a little bit.

931
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: I think mostly for them what their what their first

932
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: and most important thing is learned his new system. Uh,

933
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: study your butt off, get ready for the new system,

934
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: and be prepared to be a super flash on special

935
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: teams if you are battling for a position at wide

936
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: out or trying to be that next running back when

937
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: you know they picked the guy up. Uh with Stewart,

938
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: you got Stewart, they picked up you got a guy

939
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: you drafted first for your first pick. So now I'm like, Okay,

940
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be that guy when they calling me I'll

941
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: be ready like Arlean's dark waf. If you're calling me

942
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: you need me, I'll be ready. But how do I

943
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: keep myself and the coaches? You know? Good graces? And

944
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: Goldman has lined up as a kick returner, and I

945
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: see I've seen him him and Lewis actually both be

946
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: lined up as a gunner as well. Yeah, so you

947
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: want to be you gotta be dynamic on those special

948
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: teams and and that can that can keep you on

949
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: the teams. Because Arles dark Wi, I believe in not

950
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: he was a great special teams player. He did everything

951
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: they asked him to do. If runs down made you know,

952
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: made tackles on kick return, made tackles and pump return

953
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: earn um uh blocked him hot return. You do all

954
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: things you possibly can so that when you know they're

955
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: looking at you with another guy, well, this guy is

956
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good receiver. He'll be our fourth receiver. We

957
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: like to run two tighty ends and bringing the fourth

958
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: receivers a luxury. But if you're the fourth receiver and

959
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: you're playing as bestial teams, you're not luxury anymore. You

960
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: need it? Are you anything else for us? Thank you

961
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: guys for taking Thanks Eric appreciate the call. All right,

962
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: our final call. The show is armand in Wisconsin, armand

963
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: you're clean up hitter today. How are you pal good?

964
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: How are you doing great? What's up? Quick question? Do

965
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: you think Eli will have a comeback season with the

966
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: most improved online? I mean, it's not just the old

967
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: line and it's it's the old line. It's Odell being healthy,

968
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: at Shephard being healthy, It's a new offensive system in here.

969
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: Put all that together, Howard, it's it's Eli. Manny has

970
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: everything around him, barring potential injuries. You never know what

971
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: happened with that obviously, UH to have a big bounce

972
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: back statistical year, I think he he has. He has

973
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: a great opportunity. I think you need to you know,

974
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: if you didn't, I know you're a giant fan. But

975
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: if you can find a way to look back at

976
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: some of that Minnesota UH and see how those guys

977
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: played and how that that offense was running, UH, I

978
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: think that right there will be a telltell of what

979
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: Eli is potentially capable of or even you know, potentially

980
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: capable of doing even more of. I assume he's not

981
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: going to be forty times in this office. I assume

982
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: plays will be bigger plays. When the balls hit, I

983
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: think that you're gonna find a lot of you know,

984
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: Shepherd one on one of them on somebody on the outside,

985
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: and the guy misses the break, Shepherd's going for forty

986
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: h O'Dell loves to do that. I think say Kwan

987
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: is gonna do that. If you think he's quote unquote

988
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: picking up the blitz and you come off the ball

989
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: that hit him and he goes by you, you're in

990
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: a chase position. You put everybody in jeopardy behind you, Like, hey, dude,

991
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: if your jobs are get him, don't make him block.

992
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: If he's not gonna block you. You can't just run

993
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: in if you're not gonna get there. So I think

994
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: that that that harkens back to the days of Tiki,

995
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: Barber and Eline. Those days were bad days were defenses.

996
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: You couldn't you couldn't feel the whole fast enough to

997
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: make him blocking. If you didn't get there in time,

998
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: the ball was dumped already, and that's going to create

999
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: problems for the defense because the tight end can get

1000
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: loose up the mental on it edge. There's a lot

1001
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: of people out there, and you gotta her. Nanda's who's

1002
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: a monster who wants to wants to play. Another guard,

1003
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: who's another just got in there from Jacksonville, wants to play.

1004
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: You got soldiers the center. Everybody wants to get it

1005
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: done really quickly. So I'm looking forward to a good year.

1006
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: Elis just the benefit of of a lot of great changes.

1007
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, Armond. Thanks guys, appreciate the call. All Right,

1008
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: how we got two minutes here before we close? Um,

1009
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: a couple of players maybe, or just a couple of

1010
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: specific things that you're excited to see for the first

1011
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: preseason game tomorrow. I'm really excited to see her and

1012
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 1: this I just like, I just am. I just heard,

1013
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, seeing seeing the reports, the fights, the whatever.

1014
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: A kid that says in his in one of his

1015
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: interviews that he, you know, appreciates the game. He didn't

1016
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: say like I love the game. I did this because

1017
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: I appreciate the game and I want to show people

1018
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: how much I appreciate it. That means he owes some

1019
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: somebody something, and it seems against football itself. So I'm

1020
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: excited to see him play. I'm excited to see from

1021
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: the offensive standpoint. Also, I'm really interested to see how

1022
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna do with the right tackle position. You know

1023
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: Flowers is in there. But Flowers has been embattled. I

1024
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: think he was the benefactor of a of a bad

1025
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: ankle last year that we don't talk about too much.

1026
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: He twisted it early, but he's like, I'm okay, I

1027
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: could play. Then he just played anyway. I think he

1028
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: wind up sitting out some more time in the season,

1029
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: but he was banged up a little bit. I'm interested

1030
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: to see, Hey, look what kind of pride do you got?

1031
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: Where are you gonna be in things? How are you

1032
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna handle that moment of getting a chance to play

1033
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: when maybe not everybody's playing the whole time. I'm interested

1034
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: to see the defense. I want to see what the

1035
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: three for uh playing in gaps looks like instead of

1036
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: a three or four two gap. I won't see it

1037
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: like up close seeing it in Arizona, you're kind to

1038
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: see it because you're not really watching Arizona. But I

1039
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: want to see it what our guys, with our personnel,

1040
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: how they're doing it, and how it's gonna pan out.

1041
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: And I want I'm curious to see we have our

1042
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: strong safety. We know we do. I'm curious see who's

1043
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: gonna step up and be there free safety and that's

1044
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: a very important position in this defense too, That is

1045
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: that is the center fielder. He's the last line of defense.

1046
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: He is basically almost quarterback and in orchestrating where all

1047
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: these guys line up, and he's a communicator out there

1048
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: to keep these guys in the right position. So I'm

1049
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: very interested to see who and how they're gonna fill

1050
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: that position and who can actually step up and be

1051
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, I want to see who plays that

1052
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: slot corner back spot too. I think that's important. Um.

1053
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: I want to see David's web play. I want to

1054
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: see if he can take all those tools, the arm strength,

1055
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: and the mobility and take it onto the practice field

1056
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: and actually execute with guys trying to order him pretty much,

1057
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: because everything goes a lot faster. You gotta process and

1058
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: make good decisions. That's It's a lot of different games

1059
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: that is on the practice. It's got a lot to build, um,

1060
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, for a year, and the guy that did

1061
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: we don't talk that much about. I'm really curious to

1062
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: see through this entire training camp going into the season.

1063
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: What is who is Eli Apple? Yeah, that's a good one,

1064
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: not not what is he? Who is he lying. I

1065
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: think we're gonna know when he gets beat, how he

1066
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: bounces back from. Hopefully it doesn't get beat that often.

1067
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: But I want to see who he is. That happens

1068
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: all corners, it happens. It happens absolutely, And of course

1069
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: we got to see Barkley in the game for the

1070
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: first time. That's gonna be fun. I think that's gonna

1071
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: be fun. But I'm fun I'm not. I kind of

1072
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: know who he is. I'm interested in something that you said,

1073
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: who am I interested in seeing? I'm interested to see,

1074
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: but I think you're excited to see. I am gonna,

1075
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: like say it again, I'm gonna be watching Sa Kwan

1076
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: might be going down the field. If Hernandez is burying

1077
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: this guy, I'm okay, be careful, dude, that guy get you.

1078
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: You know, I want to see the right tackle play.

1079
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: I want to see whoever it is. You know, I'm

1080
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: on watched the first team right tackle play, but then

1081
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: I want to watch all the other guys after him

1082
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: to see, you know, the line needs some depth center

1083
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: battle to be definitely want to see that too. And

1084
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: then you watch that defense and see what happens. You

1085
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: gotta see like that free safety and Apple. That's how

1086
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: it kind of plays out to me. I know who

1087
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm watching the whole game real quick, yes, answer. Does

1088
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Play? I think that you've alread cheated?

1089
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: I said yes or no? You know, I just stop him.

1090
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: I just think. I just think that politely that he

1091
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: plays a couple of plays or something. I see this

1092
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: guy playing Scout Team. I don't know how coach is

1093
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: going to keep him out. I mean, you know that's

1094
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's back, he wants to be returner.

1095
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: He wants to do all this stuff. And I know that.

1096
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: You know, all the fansy guys are like, holeman, don't

1097
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: do that, do that right now. But he wants to play,

1098
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: So how do you keep him out of the game.

1099
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: But back in the day, we played all the games

1100
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: we tried to or you know, because if you didn't

1101
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: play and the guy that plays behind you got in,

1102
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: he looked good there, we can get you operating in

1103
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: the offense now. And I was like, no, no, no, no no,

1104
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: we I'll play. I'm good want anybody in the Fieldes

1105
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: were a very different time. Okay, you can call it that,

1106
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you more guys are gonna be like,

1107
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: I bet you son, the company, bet you son, the

1108
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: positions that are competing. I bet the center when it's like, hey,

1109
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: howpping come on out, you're good? What I gotta work

1110
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: on this? I got something else to do. Give me

1111
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: a man, a coach like that. I bet those guys

1112
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: will want to come out, get stuff out. You want

1113
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: to watch our cross w NBC tomorrow night. Game starts

1114
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: at seven oh five. If you want to hear me,

1115
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 1: can go to the radio at w CBS News Radio eighty.

1116
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: Will the pre post at in game as well. Thanks

1117
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: for joining us for Big Book kick Off Live. We'll

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Speaker 1: see tomorrow on giants dot com. Everybody have a good day.