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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody into the Wednesday edition of

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Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Got a lot

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Speaker 1: to dive into with all of you. Appreciate you joining

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Speaker 1: us from all over the country and for some of

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Speaker 1: our digital listeners all over the world. We've got Ron

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Speaker 1: de Santis's Health Department the State of Florida weighing in

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Speaker 1: on gender transition surgery, puberty blockers, and all the rest

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Speaker 1: for teens preteens, and no surprise, they're calling out essentially

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Speaker 1: the HHS White House guidance on this stuff. So talking

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Speaker 1: about that coming up a little bit later on. Plus,

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Speaker 1: Russian players are now banned from Wimbledon. Clen I often

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Speaker 1: joke around about how I don't follow out of professional sports.

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Speaker 1: Tennis is the one professional sport I do go see

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Speaker 1: and also follow with regularity and half since I was

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Speaker 1: a little kid. And Russian players being banned from Wimbledon

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Speaker 1: is a sign I think of a broader a broader

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Speaker 1: mind virus that is spreading of mass mobilization without actual

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Speaker 1: engagement on what is fair, what is right, and what

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Speaker 1: is just just people wanting to walk along with the

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Speaker 1: mob as it goes by and shout and scream and

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Speaker 1: feel good about themselves, also known as being a Democrat

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Speaker 1: these days. And then and speaking of the wokeness, and well,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the continuing possibility of them bringing back

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Speaker 1: masks on planes, which right now they've left them. The

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Speaker 1: White Houses left a little wiggle room. They have not

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Speaker 1: decided to officially challenge, but they've left opened the door

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Speaker 1: to challenge. Because the point Clay was making older in

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Speaker 1: the week, the politics of it are certainly precarious for

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Speaker 1: the Democrats right now. There's a part of you it

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Speaker 1: almost as like, you know what, I want them to

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Speaker 1: be that crazy. I want them to continue being that

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Speaker 1: crazy until election day so that they finally get destroyed.

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Speaker 1: But before we go into the mass, because we talked

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Speaker 1: about that a lot this week, Clay and on, we're

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Speaker 1: going back and forth this morning on Netflix because one

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Speaker 1: of the things you've seen in recent years is just

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Speaker 1: how important it is to have control of platforms and content.

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Speaker 1: We usually talk about in the context of social media,

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Speaker 1: and for people say, oh, I don't care about Twitter

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Speaker 1: cycle for all the news sites and all the newspapers

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Speaker 1: pretty much that you're reading in some ways not entirely,

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Speaker 1: but it's very influential. And TikTok is brainwashing your kids.

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Speaker 1: So these things matter whether people engage with them or not. Netflix, Hulu,

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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. These are major streaming services, in the case

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Speaker 1: what month we're talking about, what the stock price is.

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Speaker 1: And Netflix has gone woke or was woke perhaps all along,

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Speaker 1: we're just more aware of it now. Elon Musk, who

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Speaker 1: because the guys obviously a genius in a world class

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Speaker 1: entrepreneur Clay he says, the woke mind virus is to

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Speaker 1: blame for Netflix tanking. That stock stock dropped thirty two percent,

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Speaker 1: is hemorrhaging viewers. And remember where did Obama This is important,

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Speaker 1: dollars basically showered showered on him right when he finished

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Speaker 1: the left's cultural dominance right now, and something's going on

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Speaker 1: in Netflix. What do you think it is? Well, first

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Speaker 1: of all, Buck, we've talked about this. I've got Netflix stock,

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Speaker 1: so I've had it for a long time. So the

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Speaker 1: full disclosure, Travis over here. Yeah, the stock is right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking as we're speaking. Buck down thirty seven percent

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Speaker 1: so many different levels, Buck, because Netflix was over seven

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Speaker 1: And you know that conventional wisdom is often wrong. In fact,

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Speaker 1: You know, in my house we've got Disney Plus, Amazon Prime, Hulu,

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Speaker 1: Left a great gig at Fox, which, as we know,

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Speaker 1: Fox is unbelievably effective at putting programming on that millions

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Speaker 1: also have a tremendous say in what gets made and

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Speaker 1: It's because the technology changed so rapidly. But anyway, back

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Speaker 1: and in my and it's annoying. And I've actually thought

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Speaker 1: I thought about canceling Netflix too, Clay, when was the

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Speaker 1: last time you scroll through? It's just First of all,

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Speaker 1: not even conservative, it's not even GOP. Just make things

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Speaker 1: So we remember that period quite well. While that was

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Speaker 1: going on, some of the wealthiest companies corporations in America,

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Speaker 1: we're putting out, in some cases almost like laughable statements.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you had bought, you know, a bottle

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Speaker 1: of baby formula from a company five years ago, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're getting an email saying that this

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Speaker 1: company stands with Black Lives Matter. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you bought a cookie from somewhere, you're being if

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Speaker 1: you bought anything, you're being told, you know, your dishwashing

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Speaker 1: at Turgent Company was telling you they stand with them.

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Speaker 1: The corporate throwing in behind the BLM movement was really

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Speaker 1: unlike anything we've seen before. Do you think that they

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Speaker 1: would just do that again or would There is there

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Speaker 1: a little hesitation now that we see the numbers are

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Speaker 1: BLM led to more violence, more lawlessness, and specifically more

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Speaker 1: young black men killed in America than would have been

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Speaker 1: in a year previous to the movement. They would absolutely

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Speaker 1: do it again. Look at look at what Disney is doing.

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00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: It's terrified of its own employees. The employees of corporations

448
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Speaker 1: are getting more and more left as we graduate belch Forth,

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Speaker 1: more and more college graduates who have been marinated in

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Speaker 1: complete fantastical lies about this country every year. And the

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Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, I mean, the country is

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Speaker 1: just as very weird attitudes towards race. The elites purport

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Speaker 1: to care about black lives. It's all a croc It's

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Speaker 1: completely absurd, It's it's a fiction. It's a fraud. The

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Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter activism is an absolute fraud. There's never

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Speaker 1: been a Black Lives Matter activist who showed up at

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Speaker 1: the scene of a child being gunned down in a

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Speaker 1: drive by shooting. Why Because the elites are terrified about

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Speaker 1: the breakdown in the inner city. There is, frankly, let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, a pathological inner city culture. What else explains

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Speaker 1: these young teens that willingly, knowingly spray bullets across sidewalks,

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Speaker 1: knowing that they are going to take innocent lives. The

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Speaker 1: family is broken down and America turns its eyes away,

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Speaker 1: and you have the elites that are rather would rather

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Speaker 1: accuse themselves of phantom racism them look head on at

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Speaker 1: the problem of black inner city breakdown. There's never been

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Speaker 1: a civilization like this, and this type of weird cognitive

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Speaker 1: dissonance means that we're never going to get out of

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Speaker 1: this moment, Heather. What I've said for a while, and

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Speaker 1: I think becomes more and more increasingly apparent as all

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Speaker 1: of this data comes out and it's mostly ignored. Really,

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Speaker 1: it's not black lives matter. It's black lives matter when

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Speaker 1: white people are involved in killing black people, because otherwise

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Speaker 1: black lives really don't matter, which you know, when you

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Speaker 1: really consider it, it's about how a black life is taken,

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Speaker 1: not and by the way, a tiny minority of black

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Speaker 1: lives are in any way connected to white people when

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Speaker 1: it comes to murder. But that's the only time the

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Speaker 1: media covers it, which, let's be honest, Heather, is racist

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Speaker 1: in itself because it's really about the white person's action

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Speaker 1: that is making it newsworthy, absolutely right, I mean, and

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Speaker 1: we never get the race of criminals when they're black.

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Speaker 1: You know, the media absolutely repressed the race of the

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Speaker 1: subway shooter in Brooklyn as long as it could get

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Speaker 1: away with it. If that subway shooter had been white,

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Speaker 1: that would have been an international story. There would have

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Speaker 1: been riots in the streets. The Justice Department would have

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Speaker 1: snapped into its white supremacist you know, the biggest threat

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Speaker 1: to this country is white supremacist mode. Instead, at best,

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Speaker 1: we got a description of him as dark skinned. A

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Speaker 1: white would never be described as light skinned. But generally

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Speaker 1: there was utter muteness, and of course that meant that

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Speaker 1: that shooting has been basically put down the memory hole

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Speaker 1: because it doesn't fit the narrative. The blacks commit eighty

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Speaker 1: eight percent of all interracial violence between black and whites

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Speaker 1: and whites and blacks. Whites are not the problem. Whites

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Speaker 1: are not the problem facing blacks today. Black sky of

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Speaker 1: homicide at thirteen times the rate between the ages of

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Speaker 1: ten and thirty four compared to whites thirteen times. Who's

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Speaker 1: killing them? Not the cops, not other whites, but other blacks.

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Speaker 1: Anybody who's had any connection with academia for the last

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Speaker 1: forty years knows that there's this if you talk about

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Speaker 1: black on black violence, that somehow that's inappropriate and it's

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Speaker 1: just a fiction, and it's and crime is just a fiction.

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Speaker 1: You're not allowed to talk about black on black violence,

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00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: but that is basically what the reality is today, street violence,

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Speaker 1: street crime. Let's be honest, and this is extraordinarily dangerous

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Speaker 1: to say, but it is overwhelmingly a product of underrepresented minorities.

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Speaker 1: In New York City, Blacks and Hispanics account for virtually

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent of all drive by shootings. Blacks or

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Speaker 1: twenty three percent of the population in New York. They

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Speaker 1: commit anywhere between seventy and seventy five percent of all

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Speaker 1: shootings each year. How do we know that? From the

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Speaker 1: victims of and witnesses to those shootings, who are themselves

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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly black, they are the ones telling the police who

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Speaker 1: the assailants are. Whites are not the problem. And yet

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Speaker 1: we keep on pretending in the society that it's white

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Speaker 1: people who are the scourge. No, it's black criminals. And

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Speaker 1: I have spoken to so many law abiding, hard working

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Speaker 1: black residents of high crime areas who only want to

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Speaker 1: lead normal lives, and they're begging for the police to

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Speaker 1: enforce the laws against trespassing, against loitering, against littering, against

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Speaker 1: drug use. But the problem is if the police enforce

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Speaker 1: the law in a color blind matter, in a constitutional manner,

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Speaker 1: it will have a disparate impact act on blacks. Why

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Speaker 1: not because the law is racist, not because the police

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Speaker 1: are racist, but because blacks commit crime at higher rates.

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Speaker 1: That is the thing you are not allowed to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Heather McDonald, author of The War on Cops. Heather, appreciate

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Speaker 1: You just heard from Heather McDonald who brought a flamethrower

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Speaker 1: to the discussion surrounding crime and the data that she

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Speaker 1: shared is accurate data and Buck a lot of times

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Speaker 1: she's focused on police and the danger to police. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about twenty twenty two. So far we have seen

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Speaker 1: an all time rise in police shootings in the modern era,

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Speaker 1: and that continues to kind of skyrocket. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: hit you with an up date breaking news going on

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Speaker 1: out there the Florida Senate as the state of Florida

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Speaker 1: continues to be a found an oasis of freedom. Just

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Speaker 1: passed Ron DeSantis is congressional map that creates four new

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Speaker 1: Republican leaning district wiping out Democratic gains and redistricting across

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Speaker 1: the Nation and Buck. This is significant because it kind

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Speaker 1: of ties in with what we were talking about to

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Speaker 1: start off the program. It also removes Disney's self governing

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Speaker 1: power and special exempt status. Now, the House, I believe

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Speaker 1: in Florida still has to pass this bill as well.

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Speaker 1: It will go to the Florida House tomorrow. But the

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Speaker 1: Florida Senate has wow again four new Republican congressional districts

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Speaker 1: and has removed Disney's self governing power in special exempt status.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this Buck. Since Disney, Walt Disney himself

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Speaker 1: bought up the land in Orlando area, Disney has basically

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Speaker 1: had regulatory authority when it comes to building whatever it

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Speaker 1: wants as a part that Florida legislature had given them

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Speaker 1: that Now potentially, if it passes the Florida House and

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Speaker 1: is signed by De Santis, that will cease to exist.

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Speaker 1: What was that really worthwhile phrase that Barack Obama said

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Speaker 1: elections have consequences. Some people in Florida are finding out

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Speaker 1: that elections do have consequences. It turns out, if you

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Speaker 1: want to be getting remember this is about special treatment

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Speaker 1: for Disney, that the state of Florida is under no

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Speaker 1: obligation to provide there's nothing. This isn't, you know, punitive

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Speaker 1: in the sense that they're getting less than equal treatment.

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Speaker 1: They're actually not going to get more than equal treatment,

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Speaker 1: assuming this passes and becomes a law. I you know,

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Speaker 1: I keep wondering this, and I'd give credit to my

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Speaker 1: friend Shan Davis, our friend Shawn Davis from the Federalists

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Speaker 1: for this one, because he raised this a few days

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Speaker 1: ago on Twitter. Why isn't every Republican governor seeing a

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Speaker 1: lot of what Rohn de Santis is doing in Florida.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in states where there's an even more red legislature,

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Speaker 1: Why aren't they seeing this and saying there is a

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Speaker 1: way or this is the way. It's a great question,

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Speaker 1: and the answer is they should be following his lead

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Speaker 1: even more because when he took office, remember he won

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Speaker 1: by thirty thousand votes, and that is one of the

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Speaker 1: most consequential governorship elections that we have ever seen, because

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Speaker 1: otherwise Andrew Gillham would have ended up in office, and

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Speaker 1: I think he would have led Florida during COVID like

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Speaker 1: we have seen New York in California be led. Instead

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Speaker 1: of an oasis of freedom, Florida would have been a

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Speaker 1: satellite of New York and if that had happened, many

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Speaker 1: other governors would not have been willing to take the

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Speaker 1: risk to follow De Santis's lead. It's crazy to think about.

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Speaker 1: I could see Andrew Governor Gillham giving speeches about how

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Speaker 1: Florida have such a large retirement can unity and they

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Speaker 1: need to have the most extreme lockdowns. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: would have gone as far or further than New York

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Speaker 1: City in the depths of its COVID lockdown madness, if

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Speaker 1: Andrew Gillum had won that race, No, no question in

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Speaker 1: my mind. And you're seeing this right now. People are

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Speaker 1: humiliating themselves in public over this mask mandate on planes.

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Speaker 1: Individuals you think they are smart, I'm not just talking

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Speaker 1: to the Blue check mds now people in the media

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Speaker 1: who want to be taken seriously. They're hysterical. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're hysterical, not in the funny sense. These are people

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Speaker 1: who it's like they're suffering from agoraphobia or something like

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Speaker 1: they can't go outside, and they expect that no one

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Speaker 1: should be able to go outside. But in this case,

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Speaker 1: it's you can't go out into a plane unmasked. It's

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Speaker 1: it's lunacy. It's also evidence I think of one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest issues that's out there right now, Buck, which

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Speaker 1: is an inability to actually analyze risk and fear and

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Speaker 1: be able to make rational decisions, which is one of

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Speaker 1: the hallmarks of adulthood. And by the way, on de Santis,

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Speaker 1: if he wins by as much as I think he

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Speaker 1: is likely to win by in November, wins by seven

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Speaker 1: or eight points, let's say, and what was otherwise considered

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Speaker 1: to be a swing state when he took office, I

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Speaker 1: think there will be a lot of Republicans who say, oh,

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Speaker 1: maybe I should be following his lead. This is how

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Speaker 1: it really is done. Because I think he's gonna set

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Speaker 1: a record for a Republican governor in terms of how

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Speaker 1: much he wins by Governor Governor Abbott, you know, governor

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Speaker 1: Governor we had Tate Reeves on go fold of Santis,

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Speaker 1: make the left suffer the consequences of their lunacy, push

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Speaker 1: for decisions that defend freedom and sanity in your own states, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just those are two governors that came

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Speaker 1: to mind. Any Republican governor, you got to see this

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Speaker 1: and say, why can't we do that? I would like answers.

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front line of truth.

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