1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: There was just so much about this that kind of 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: makes you sad. He wants more, the sport wants more, 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: fans want more, and hey, injuries happen. Welcome everyone to 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: the Thursday. 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: Edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal here with Alta 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: Rizzo and a lot of As always, we have much 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: to discuss, surprising teams, controversial plays. We saw one last night, 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: and yeah, we have to discuss as well. 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: Another major injury. Yeah. 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: I hate to see it because this is a guy 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 3: that could have easily been in the Hall of Fame. 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: Perhaps Ken, he still will be. Before we get to that, though, 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: make sure you guys load up your questions in the 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: chat for Grill and Ken. We're going to get to 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: that segment in just a moment. But before we do that, Ken, 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 3: let's talk about what you're talking about in the lead. 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: And it seems like a fallen Angel. 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: No question, Alana, and the news that Mike Trout requires 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: knee surgery was crushing to everyone involved, most of all Trout, 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: of course, the Angels, fans, the sport, you name it. 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: And I remember back in spring training I interviewed him 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: for Fox and he talked about how excited he was 23 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: to become the player he was in those MVP years. 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: He wanted to get back to that. He felt he 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: was close to getting back to that. And yes, he 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: had heard the noise people saying, ah, this guy doesn't 27 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: want to wear and he just wants to stay in Anaheim, 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: and he told me. It fuels me even more. Now. 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: I wrote again today about Trout and obviously I had 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: to address the issue of the day, and frankly, it 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: seems to me now it becomes even more difficult for 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: a trade to ever take place. It was always going 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: to be difficult. One Mike wants to stay, or it 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: has said he wants to stay. The owner, Artie Marino 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: doesn't want to trade him. He didn't trade Otani and 36 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: would probably not not probably would definitely not be willing 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: to kick in a lot of money to move his 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: franchise player off his roster. So all of these things 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: were working against it. But in spring training I did 40 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: sense of growing impatience. If you remember that first press conference, 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: he said he was pushing, pushing, pushing the front office 42 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: to make free agent additions, and he has said all 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: along he wants to win. He was energized by the 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: WBC because he was playing in such meaningful games. This 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: is a guy who has not appeared in the playoffs 46 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen. He has never won a playoff game. 47 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: He is going to the Hall of Fame alta and 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: rightly so. And there is so much that we all 49 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: love about Mike Trout, his earnestness, his loyalty. But as 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: I wrote to me, and I know not to all fans, 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: but certainly to some fans out there, this is a 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: shame that he is not at this point getting to 53 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: the level where we would like him to be, where 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: he would like to be. He's going to be thirty 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: three in August, and yet he's facing another fairly lengthy 56 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: recovery here. 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: And I wonder, too, Ken, if this kind of taints 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: the legacy of what Mike Trout could have been. It 59 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: almost likens itself to maybe a Ken Griffy Junior type 60 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 3: of comp in terms of obviously both MVPs great players, 61 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer and Mike Trout Ken Griffy Junior 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: is already there. Do you see any similarities between Mike 63 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: Trout and the kid I do and Alana? 64 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: Throughout baseball history, there have been players whose careers have 65 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: been cut short due to injury that could have been 66 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: even greater than they were now. Trout's career is not over. 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: We all know that, and there is a non zero 68 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: chance that he eventually comes back, finishes the season strong, 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: and yes, becomes that player that he was during the 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: three MVP years, the eleven time All Star years. But 71 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: at the same time he is getting older. It doesn't 72 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: get easier, but yes, he will be remembered, at least 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: at this point in part for his injuries. But no one, 74 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: no one should forget what this guy was and was 75 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: just weeks ago, in this early part of the season, 76 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: he was headed toward a season that look like it 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: could be I don't know, forty to fifty homers, thirty 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: stolen bases, he was again running. So this story is 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: not over. It needs to play out still. But there's 80 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: just so much about this that kind of makes you 81 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: sad because he wants more, the sport wants more, fans 82 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: want more, and hey, injuries happen. 83 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: And I think it makes it worse ken that he 84 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: didn't know how it happened, and that he was off 85 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: to such a great season when you're looking at the 86 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: numbers so far, five six weeks into the year, you're thinking, man, 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 3: maybe this is another MVP type of season for Mike Trout, 88 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: and nobody bothers it more than Mike Trout. I mean, 89 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: look at the press conference when he was addressing the media. 90 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he was really having a tough time holding 91 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: back tears. And I know that there was a comment 92 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: here on fair Territory. We appreciate the conversation, you joining 93 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: us that, yeah, but he's still making over four hundred million. 94 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: Mike Trout would do what he's doing for free, and 95 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: he loves the game. And the fact is, no nobody 96 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: takes this harder than the player that's injured. That's mister 97 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: classic saying, but he's still making over four hundred plus million. Yes, 98 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: of course he is. But there's not that many people 99 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: on the planet that can do can what Mike Trout 100 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: can do. And again there's always that caveat in that 101 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: asterisk when healthy. 102 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: I understand fans saying that, yeah, he's rich, He's richer 103 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: than any of us will ever be. But as hard 104 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: as this might be for certain people to understand, that 105 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: is not what drives these guys. What drives these guys 106 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: once they are financially secure, and that comes, of course, 107 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: in many ways. What drives them is winning, and he 108 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: drives Mike Trout as much as it drives anyone. The 109 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: one criticism that I cannot stand of him is that 110 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't care about winning. If you cared about winning, 111 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: he goes somewhere else. I frankly believe that if he 112 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: had stayed healthy in this particular case, he was getting 113 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: closer to the point where he would want to go 114 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: somewhere else. And I would imagine it's crossed his mind 115 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: now a few times, and maybe even more so in 116 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: these past few days when he realized that this is 117 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: going to be more difficult now in every way. But 118 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: at the same time, Alani, You're absolutely right, it's it 119 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: is about the money. I will never say it's not 120 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: about the money. For players, Yes, of course they want 121 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: to make as much money as they can, but once 122 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: they are established, they want to win. 123 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 3: You know what, I don't fault the players, because there's 124 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: not a person on this planet ken that wouldn't take 125 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: four hundred and twenty five six million or whatever the 126 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: heck it was that Mike Trout is getting. But there's 127 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: only certain people that can do what Mike Trout can do. 128 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: Moving on from of course the fallen Angel, let's speak 129 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: to the Boston Red Sox and their stellar staff. This 130 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: is a group of guys that I never would have 131 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: thought would be in this position, and three fifths of 132 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: their starting rotation ken is on the il. Yet they're 133 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: getting the job done a lot. 134 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: Of four fifths if you count Giolito. It's amazing what 135 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: they're doing. And hey, meya Kolpa me. Guys like me 136 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: spent the entire offseason criticizing the Red Sox for not 137 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: adding starting pitching. Well, I want people look at the 138 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: rotation era standings as of right now and see where 139 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: the Red Sox stand in rotation era without four of 140 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: their five starters, because it's rather amazing to see. Not 141 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: just that they lead the league, Oh, they lead the 142 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: Majors with the two point zero three rotation of era. 143 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: They lead it by almost a half run per nine innings, 144 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: and then the next closest team, the Royals, is almost 145 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: a full run per nine innings behind them. So it's 146 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Red Sox Phillies Royals. But the Red Sox with this 147 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: massive lead. Now, what's so interesting about this is that 148 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: they brought in a new president baseball operations, Craig Breslow, 149 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: who of course was a former major league pitcher pitching background, 150 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: helped the Cubs design their pitching lab. Then they brought 151 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: in a new pitching coach, Andrew Bailey. They're throwing fewer 152 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: fastballs than any team in the majors. They are not 153 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: getting pounded in the zone by opponents the way they 154 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: were last year. Last year they got hit really hard 155 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: in the zone. Alex Korra has made note of this. 156 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: It's been a complete turnaround, and I don't know if 157 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: they're for real. Their defense is questionable. They've got injuries 158 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: on the offensive side too, and Trevor's story, the loss 159 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: of him for the year really hurts them in every way. 160 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: But it's been incredible to see what they've done. They 161 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: deserve a lot of credit for what they've done. And 162 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: it just is another lesson about how humbling the game 163 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: is from the media side, because all of us experts said, oh, 164 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: this team needs a starting pitch. Now, maybe they still do, 165 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: but man, for one one month of the season, they've 166 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: done really really well. Yeah. 167 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: Look, no further than what the A's are doing right now, 168 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: is it sustainable? Probably not? But I think the A's 169 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: are playing a little bit better than what we had anticipated, 170 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: and so were the Red Sox. Alex korra Ken was 171 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: on Enylby Network earlier this morning talking about exactly what 172 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: you said about the fact that these guys were kids 173 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago and they've had to take 174 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: their licks in the minor leagues and now you have 175 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: to learn quickly at the big league level. But to 176 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: your point about not throwing a lot of fastballs, ac 177 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: said that these guys are so much more confident in 178 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: their secondary stuff that they have a lot of different 179 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: things in their arsenal to use as an outpitch. He 180 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: also said that they're learning on the job, but they're 181 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: getting the job done. And he was asked about the 182 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: suspect defense that we know that the Boston Red Sox 183 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: didn't have the best defense in the world last season, 184 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: and of course losing Trevor Story, who's supposed to slow 185 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: that defense down. In Alex Corra's words, that's a big blow. 186 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: But they did bring in, you know, an outfielder to 187 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: the middle of the infield. Of course, Devers is still there. 188 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: They moved Bogart's last season, but for whatever reason to 189 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: your point, at least five to six weeks into the season, 190 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 3: the Boston Red Sox are getting the job done. Now, 191 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: that's a situation in that division where they're probably not 192 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: going to win the division, but they have an opportunity 193 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: to perhaps make the postseason as the wild card. I 194 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: don't think the same could be said ken for the 195 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: AL Central. So let's talk about how tight that division is, 196 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: and in my opinion, you're gonna have to win it 197 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: in order to get in. 198 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: I would tend to agree with you, Alana, but I'm 199 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: not totally convinced because these teams have started off so well. Basically, yes, 200 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: the ALE East and the Ale West are stronger, and yes, 201 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: the wild cards, all three of them, should come from 202 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: those divisions. But guess what, there is only one division 203 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: right now with four teams above five hundred and then 204 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: not all play the White Sox every day. One division, 205 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: and we're talking about the AL Central. The Guardians at 206 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: this start is remarkable, one of the best enfranchise history. 207 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: You've got the Royals one of their best aprils, the 208 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: Tigers the same, then the Twins, who have won ten straight. 209 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how sustainable this is for any of them. 210 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: But let's look at where these teams rank in terms 211 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: of ERA with regard to the major leagues, because this 212 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: is really interesting and I think this is telling. In 213 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: the major leagues right now, the ERA leaders teams fourth, 214 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: Detroit Tigers, fifth, Kansas City Royal, sixth, Cleveland Guardians, three 215 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Al Central teams in the top six, and then the 216 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: Twins are seventeenth. They're lagging behind in that regard a 217 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: little bit. So these teams are pitching. Detroit's bullpen has 218 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: been amazing. We saw a great start from Jack Flaherty 219 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: the other day, a better one from Kentamayda last night. 220 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: We've seen as well. Kansas City with the guys that 221 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: they've brought in Lugo and Waka, they've really stabilized the rotation. 222 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: They are pitching in a much better way than they 223 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: have before. They've got one of the great players in 224 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: the game in Bobby Wit Junior. These teams, I don't 225 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: know how good they are in the long term. I 226 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: don't know if they're eighty five win teams or eighty 227 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: win teams, but they're much more competitive than in the past. 228 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: And what is so refreshing, not just for fans of 229 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: those teams for the entire sport is to see these 230 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: teams actually come to a level now where you can say, Okay, 231 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: they're for real, They're not a joke. And I'm talking 232 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: specifically about the Royals and Tigers because the Guardians and 233 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: Twins have competed for. 234 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: Years, and I do like the fact, you know what, 235 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: there's a lot of parody, it seems, particularly in the 236 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: AL Central, and you want competitiveness. You don't want a 237 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: situation ken where it's evident that one team is going 238 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: to dominate. Ye're in and you're out, like the Dodgers 239 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: have done in the NL West, like the Rangers will 240 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: really more the Astros have done in the AL West. 241 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: But I don't want to throw cold water on what 242 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Twins have done lately. I've been very impressed 243 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 3: with what the Guardians have done under new manager Stephen Vote, 244 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: but let's not throw cold water on the fact that 245 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: the Twins are on a ten game win streak. Now, 246 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: it does come at a loss with Byron Buckston having 247 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: to leave the game yesterday with an apparent knee issue. 248 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 3: It looks like he's going to have an MRI, which 249 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: is a bummer because he's obviously back hitting this year 250 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: and playing defense, and who knows if he's going to 251 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: be on the IL again. But it's not the Twins' fault. 252 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: Ken that they had to play the Chicago White Sox 253 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: and that they played the Los Angeles Angels. I mean, 254 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 3: you have to beat the teams in your division. It 255 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: just so happens that the White Sox are having a 256 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: terrible year and they are down this year. But that's 257 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: not the Twins problem. That's not Rock Obaldelli's problem. And 258 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: no one's gonna say, hey, well, it's just you know, 259 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: it's oh, you've only beat the White Slacks, you've only 260 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: beat the Angels, so be it. That's the schedule. You 261 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 3: play the teams that you're given. And they've shown that 262 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: they can put a winning streak together and they're you know, 263 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: they're only three games out of the division league at 264 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: this point because of that. 265 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: Right, and they've had some injuries too. Like every team, 266 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: I'm with you a lot it. You got to beat 267 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: the teams in front of you, and there are teams 268 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: that don't always do that. Every year we see a 269 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: team missed the playoffs and think, man, if you'd only 270 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: beaten these dregs a little bit harder, we would have 271 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: been in a better position, and that is definitely the case. 272 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: So with the Twins. Yes, it's been an easier schedule, 273 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: no question about it. The White Socks are terrible. The 274 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: Angels aren't much better, but they have done what they've 275 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: needed to do. I want to make one more point 276 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: on the Guardians before we move on. What is so 277 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: interesting to me. It's almost like the Red Sox situation 278 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: with their pitching. Their offense last year was a mess. 279 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: A lot of contact guys, but they really weren't doing 280 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: much offensively. They went into spring training, we talked about 281 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: this before, with a new philosophy, Let's hit the ball hard. 282 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: Let's not worry so much about contact, Let's hit it hard. 283 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: Suddenly they're among the league leaders in run scored. They've 284 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: got the kid Manzarto ready in triple A. He's gonna 285 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: help them at some point. It's just really fascinating to 286 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: see what they've done under their first year manager, Steven Vote, 287 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: and to see if they can sustain it. Kwan had 288 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: an amazing game last night. Naylor has emerged as a star. 289 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez is who he is one of the great 290 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: players in the game. So I'm excited to see how 291 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: this all transpires with the AL Central and I cannot 292 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: remember a lot of the last time I said that. 293 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this question because this is a 294 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: discussion I had earlier today on High Heat on MLB Network. 295 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: If you look at Stephen Kwan's numbers, can pretend his 296 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: name was not Stephen Kwan, pretend his name was Aaron Judge. 297 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: Would you put him in the AL MVP con The 298 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: reason I take away the name is because my colleague said, 299 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: it's only May second. I'm not putting him in that 300 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: conversation yet. Let's see what the guardians are doing. In August, 301 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: I said, if it was Aaron Judge, you wouldn't care 302 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: that it was May second, because you would still put 303 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: him in that conversation because those are the numbers, and 304 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: he's Aaron Judging. He plays for the Yankees. Stephen Kwan 305 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: is playing out of his mind right now. Is it 306 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: a fair conversation to have with him in the MVP talk? 307 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it is fair right now to say he 308 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: is an MVP candidate. Now it's only May whatever, and 309 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: we know that the season has five months left, and 310 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: we also know that you can argue their most valuable 311 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: players long term will be Ramirez and Josh Naylor. At 312 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: the same time, Kwan offensively, defensively based running all three 313 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: things he excels at. And he is just a cool player. 314 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: I've loved him from the moment he dominated that spring 315 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: training a couple of years ago. Contact guy plays the 316 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: game right, has a great feel for what needs to 317 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: be done at any give time in the game. So yeah, 318 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: he's a legitimate MVP. Canned. I don't care what his 319 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: name is. You just put his numbers up there. You 320 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: look at what he's accomplished, and he's in that conversation 321 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: on May second. 322 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely triple double, a beautiful game saving ending double play, 323 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: catching the outfield, plays great defense. Stephen Kuan is an 324 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: MVP right now, even though it is May second. All right, 325 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: continue to get your questions in. Load up that chat 326 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: for Grill and Ken, and can we actually have a 327 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: question for you. We're going to start first with your 328 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: favorite ballpark giveaway. Of course, there's always a lot of 329 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: shenanigans and a lot of fun things going on at 330 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: the ballpark to get folks out. People set their schedules 331 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: based on promotional giveaways. So what's one of your favorites. 332 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: I'm not a collector, so I don't really have a 333 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 4: great opinion here, but the bobblehead seem to really get 334 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 4: people excited, and that's what you see with people lining 335 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: up at stadiums early waiting for those. 336 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: So I would say a bobblehead all right. 337 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: Is there any other type of promotion you had mentioned, 338 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: like a disco demolition night on our production? Tell me 339 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: about that one. 340 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: Well, disco demolition night. Now, this was a different kind 341 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: of promotion. Nineteen seventy nine. Disco was in full force 342 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: and a very popular music movement, but one that was 343 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: also unpopular in some respects. And the White Sox had 344 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: a promotion at the Old Kamisky in which between games 345 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: of a doubleheader they blew up disco records and you 346 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: see what happened in the screen there below. Well, a 347 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: riot happened, essentially, and the fields was trashed. I had 348 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: to forfeit the second game the White Sox did, and 349 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: it was just a big mess. This was a Bill 350 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: Veck promotion, the late Bill Veck, one of the great 351 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: promoters in the game. It didn't go all that well, 352 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: but it always stands out to me as one of 353 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: the most hilarious things that ever happened. No one really 354 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: got hurt, just had a forfeit a game, that's all. 355 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, those crazy hippies. Ken Rosenthal, I tell you what, 356 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: Bill Beck. When I think of Bill Beck, I think 357 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: of the ivy of course, at Wrigley Field. I am 358 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: not a collector either, but there's one going on right 359 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: now that I absolutely would love to have. It's because 360 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: of the London series between the Mets and the Phillies 361 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: that's upcoming. Mister Met is inside of a London classic 362 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 3: phone booth. It's absolutely adorable. We're going to continue to 363 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 3: load up the questions in the chat. 364 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: Ken. 365 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: Mariners have the pitching to stay in contention again, but 366 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: they need a back or two who may be available 367 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: at first or in the corner outfield that would be 368 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: trade deadline available for them. Chris, Thanks for the Thanks 369 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: for the conversation. Thanks for the question, Chris. 370 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: I love the question too, and I'm actually working on 371 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: something right now trying to predict which teams might be 372 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: surprise sellers. We know the Marlins are going to sell, 373 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: you know the Rockers are going to sell. The A's 374 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: probably those teams don't have much at least that they're 375 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: going to be willing to part with that is of 376 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: great value. The A's have some relievers, but I would 377 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: imagine going to want to keep them. So it's a 378 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: fair question ask which first baseman might be available, but 379 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: it's so early it's hard to kind of get a gauge. 380 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: I will say this, the Mariners know that they have 381 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: a special opportunity here. They have one of the top 382 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: rotations in the game, if not the top rotation in 383 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: the game. Over the last three weeks it has been, 384 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: and they know that at some point they're going to 385 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: need some more offense. And yes, first base is one area. 386 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: Corner ole field would be another area. There will be 387 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: players available, and they are a little thin with what 388 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: they can trade as far as pitching, because I don't 389 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: know that they can pair off anything from what they have. 390 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: It wouldn't want to even an Emerson Hancock. But they 391 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: will be aggressive, I believe within reason, because they have 392 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: been financially restricted and they certainly are aware of the 393 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: opportunity before them. I look at the Mariners sort of 394 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: like the Phillies. The Phillies have not just starting pitchers 395 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: who are really good, but guys who have been durable. 396 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: The Mariners track record of durability is not quite the same. 397 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: They're younger for the most part. But I and see 398 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: these guys still going in October pretty strong, where with 399 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: some other teams you're not so sure. Right they'll be 400 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: patching it together, You're not exactly sure what they will have. 401 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: So I love the Mariners right now from a rotation standpoint, 402 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: of course, and I'll love them even more if they 403 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: get some offense. 404 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I was gonna say. If the 405 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 3: Mariners need anything, I doubt very seriously, they're going to 406 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: be sellers at the trade deadline. They could be buyers 407 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 3: for a bat because they definitely have the starting rotation. 408 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 3: All right, Another question for you and Grill and Ken. 409 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 3: This one involves Bobby Miller of the Los Angeles Dodgers, which, 410 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: by the way, Walker Buehller is headed back to the 411 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: starting rotation. This is from shorbshib What's going on with 412 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: Bobby Miller was supposed to start playing catch last week, Ken, 413 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: They did move him back a bit. And this is 414 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: interesting too, because at first, when Miller went on the 415 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: il Dave Roberts, the manager said, it's just a little 416 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 3: smoke ken. Perhaps the smoke is becoming more of a fire. 417 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: You never know with injuries, and it's funny. Early in 418 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: my career I had a colleague named Peter Schmock, Yes 419 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: that was his name, and Peter's advice to me was 420 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: always overwrite injuries, and what he meant was, don't ever 421 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: believe the club. Always expect that it's going to be 422 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: longer than what they say. And in the Dodgers' case, 423 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: they have a number of options, right they can do 424 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: to some things with the rotation. Bueller is coming back, 425 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: they have others as well. They're gonna slow play, in 426 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: my estimation, every injury that occurs, because they pretty much 427 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: know they're going to the postseason. What they need to do, 428 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: we all know, is succeed in October in a way 429 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: that they have done only once and that was in 430 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: the shortened season in this particular era. So they're gonna 431 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: want everybody as healthy as they can be. So if 432 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: Bobby Miller takes an extra two weeks, so be it. Now. 433 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: The question, obviously, is is there something greater going on there? 434 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: And that's something I can't speak to right now. We 435 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: don't know. 436 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting question. I know that they're thrilled 437 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: to be able to get Walker Bueller back. Of course, 438 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: you don't know exactly what you're gonna get coming off 439 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: as second Tommy John surgery, but it will be good 440 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 3: to have but Tane back in the rotation. It is 441 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: time now for a super chat. We always appreciate you 442 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: guys getting involved in the conversation here. This is from 443 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: pab ld I nineteen Poblyd nineteen. I guess I can't 444 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: say that right, but why do MLB games start earlier 445 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: every year? 446 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: I assume this is a question and not a complaint, 447 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: although I don't know based on the tone of the question. 448 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: They start earlier because of the fact that games were 449 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: going too long for quite some time, right, and teams 450 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: in the league became conscious of getting fans home before 451 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: a ridiculous hour. They're starting earlier now in many cities 452 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: and getting done even earlier, so you'll see perhaps certain 453 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: East Coast games or even West Coast games and at 454 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: nine nine to thirty local time. Not a bad thing, folks. 455 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: It enables people to actually get a night's sleep before 456 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: they go to work the next day. So that was 457 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: the motivation though, just getting people in at a more 458 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: reasonable hour. 459 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: And I can I would imagine you can appreciate this too, 460 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 3: being that you do a lot of television stuff for 461 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: you do a lot of national games for them. I 462 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: could do without the twenty after starts, like if we 463 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: could have first pitch after, you know, like a six 464 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: zho five six ten is great, but six twenty or 465 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: six forty enough what the twenty minute opens. But that's 466 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: neither here nor there. That has nothing to do with 467 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: That's just that's just my opinion on on the game times. Okay, 468 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: another chat for you, another question for you, Ken, and 469 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 3: grilling Ken, is it not? Is it still not obvious 470 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: that a six man rotation would be the solution to 471 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: the injuries with the arms so that it can still 472 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 3: go full throttle? There are very few starters putting in 473 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: two hundred innings. Interesting take there, I'm interested to hear 474 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: your topic, your take on it. Ken, I'll give you 475 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: my opinion. 476 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: I would say there is not one solution to the 477 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: injury problem. It's a multifaceted issue. It's going to require 478 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: a multitude of solutions. Going to a six man rotation, yes, 479 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: that would certainly reduce the workloads on your starters, but 480 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: most teams don't even have six that they would trust 481 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: to do that. And you can look back twenty thirty 482 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: forty years guys were pitching in a five man rotation 483 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: and before that in a four man rotation, and injuries 484 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: didn't seem to be as prominent as they are today. 485 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know that spacing these guys out more 486 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: and pitching them less less frequently is the answer. It 487 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: might be one answer, but there is so much involved 488 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: here that I just can't put it on one thing. 489 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Garish, thanks for that question. I think a lot 490 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 3: of it too, ken Is. I think it starts with 491 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: again to your points, multifaceted, but it could be because 492 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: kids at ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old 493 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 3: are trying to throw one hundred miles an hour and 494 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: the body just can't take that. I mean, the body 495 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 3: is made to do a certain thing that's not necessarily it. 496 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: All right, time now for our dude and our dork setment. 497 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 3: We will start with a quick dude from you, Ken. 498 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: Quick dude for me the Oakland A's Now we have 499 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: bade these guys, not the players, not the coaches the 500 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: Dorks multitude of times. John Fischer, Well, we've almost named 501 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: the award for him, and of course we've talked a 502 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: lot about that. But this team is fifteen and seventeen. 503 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: They're in third place in the AL West. They're ahead 504 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: of the Angels, they're ahead of the Astros. They're only 505 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: two and a half behind Seattle, the team leading the division. 506 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: Are they going to win the AL West? No, they're 507 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 1: not going to win the AL West. But give that organization, 508 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: the baseball aspect of that organization, a lot of credit 509 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: for refusing to give into the circumstances and for continuing 510 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: to compete. I know it's their job, that's what they 511 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: have to do, but they've done it at a much 512 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: higher level than in the past. They've got a little 513 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: bit more interesting pitching than they have had in the past, 514 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: and good for them. 515 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: I think we've seen this movie before about a team's 516 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: owner who wants to sell the team and get them 517 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: out of Dodge and the team refuses to lose. Hmm, 518 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: maybe Major League Major it's the Oakland Days of twenty 519 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 3: twenty four. All Right, my dude is a guy that 520 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: nobody knew who he was up until three days ago, 521 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: Matt Hills Blue Sky Pest Control is the bee keeper, 522 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: the guy that saved us all at the dimond back 523 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 3: Dodgers game at Chasefield with that b colony that delayed 524 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: the game. He lived up this moment, Ken. He ends 525 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: up throwing out the ceremonial first pitch before the game 526 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: even starts, and he is having a blast. He was 527 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 3: at his kid's little league game. Good looking guy, father 528 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 3: of four saves the day. 529 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: Hey one more dude, honorable mention and do debt. I 530 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: should say Sarah Lang's happy birthday. Were all thinking of you? 531 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: All right along, Let's get to the dork. 532 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: All right, dork of the week is I just want 533 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: to know what you think about the play at the plate, 534 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: the rule catcher interference, rule block. It just seems like Ken, 535 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 3: that nobody really knows what's going on. Does the block 536 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 3: the plate rule play in today's game. 537 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: I believe it plays, and I'm perfectly comfortable with the rule. 538 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: But last night there was a lot of confusion, and 539 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: I guess we can call the door the confusion element 540 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: of it, the fact that no one had clarity on this. 541 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: The play was obviously close from a stafe out perspective, 542 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: but also the question became, okay, was this block then 543 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: because Amaya the catcher, had his foot on the plate, 544 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: the Mets believe, Hey, there was a memo sent out 545 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: foot on the plate, that's that violation. Should have been 546 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: safe tie game. I spoke with people at MLB this morning, though, 547 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: and they clarified for me. 548 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: What this was. 549 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: What this was was, yes, he had his foot on 550 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: the plate, but that is not a violation in itself. 551 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: If you remember last year, there was a play with 552 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: Jonaheim in which they called a block when yes, he 553 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: had his foot on the plate or straddling whatever it was, 554 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: but he really wasn't blocking the plate. There was a lane. 555 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: So basically what MLB has told the replay officials is 556 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: use common sense. If there is a lane, no matter 557 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: how he's set up, if the guy can get to 558 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: the plate, no violation. And that's why last night was 559 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: not described as a violation. It actually was the right 560 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: call in the league's estimation. They've apologized for certain things 561 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: over the years, but they're not apologizing for one. If anything, 562 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: they think they got the time call wrong last year. 563 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: So the confusion is understandable. We were all confused but 564 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: watching it live, Alana I thought, Alana I thought Alonzo 565 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: did have a path to the plate and that there 566 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: was not a block. Ron Darling said the same thing 567 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: on the SNY broadcast, Common Sense, no block. The bets 568 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: want to cite a technicality. I get it, they're fighting 569 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: for their lives there. But the way MLB has determined 570 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: this rule now it was not a violation. Yeah. 571 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: It's interesting though when you have common sense when it 572 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: involves human beings. It's an interpretation thing there, and there's 573 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: always room for error when it comes to that. But 574 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: we have a big Foul Territory coming up. Ken Trek 575 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 3: Schoogl of the Detroit Tigers is coming up. 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