1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What 2 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: is up Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: for Wednesday, December sixth, Oh What a night in Basketball. 4 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Had the good fortune of going to Lakers Suns on 5 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: Tuesday night. Good buddy listener to the podcast. He has 6 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: season tickets and I was able to get out of 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: a family obligation. Shout out to the wife for understanding. 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: Could miss a lot listen. Ordinarily December Lakers Sons game 9 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: is like, Okay, it's a good game, but with the 10 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: playoff situation, the in game tournament, it was like another level. 11 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think I can miss this game, 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: and it turned out to be one of the best 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: games of the young season. So obviously we will talk 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: about that. Then we'll get it to some other topics. Unfortunately, 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 1: a little more Jets and then MVP talk. It seems 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: like I hit her nerve with my Brock Purty as 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: the MVP, so we'll dig into that. But first we 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: gotta go Lakers one oh six Sons one oh three. 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the energy in the building was off the charts, 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: and the Lakers I felt like dominated much of this game. 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: With the exception of the fourteen oh run by the 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Suns to start the third quarter, it was like the 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Lakers owned the interior. Twenty one offensive rebounds. Anthony Davis 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: had more offensive boards than the entire Sun's team. They're 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: just a bad matchup. The Lakers have now gone three 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: to zero against Phoenix this season. And I know, I know, 27 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: we haven't seen Beal and Durant and Booker playing enough 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: games together for them to get any you know, cohesiveness. 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, Nurkis was quite bad. He 30 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: got bodied inside, got in foul trouble. You Banks is 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: like not even a rim runner, Like he can get 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: it done against like eighty percent of the but when 33 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: you step up in class against the Lakers and Ad 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: and the Nuggets, like, I don't see it now. I'm 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: not worried about the Suns twelve and nine. They're okay. 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: It's all about the postseason for these guys. And frankly, 37 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: the Lakers. The Wings were just tremendous defensively. The Lakers 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: won this with defense, Folks. Every night I look at 39 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: the NBA scoreboard, I'm seeing like one thirty seven, one 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: twenty four Hawks beat the Pacers or Timberwolves won thirty nine, 41 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, Nicks one twenty one, and it's like the 42 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: scores are our righty, just nobody's playing defense. And then 43 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: you look at one of six, one h three and 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, Lakers were locked in. I mean, I'm 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: just telling you right now. Like I know they didn't 46 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: have Gabe Vinson, who is definitely a rotation guy, but 47 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: when you're talking about Cam Reddish who couldn't make a 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: shot but defensively was unbelievable moving his feet and switching 49 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: with between Booker and KD, he was outstanding. I thought 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: Jared Vanderbilt gave them huge minutes. He get four offensive 51 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: boards in fifteen minutes. Like, again, he couldn't make a shot, 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: but his activeness on the offensive glass and the defensive 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: end was tremendous. And then the other guy I thought 54 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: was excellent defensively at times was Tory and Prince. Now 55 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: he's the guy they expect to make shots and he 56 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: two for six, felt like he couldn't make a damn thing. 57 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: And it's like if those three guys are defending at 58 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: a high level and you tassin Gabe Vincent, like this 59 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: Lakers team is going to be legit dangerous. Now, obviously 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: we have to worry about Lebron's health and AD's health. 61 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: But Ad, who must have missed five layups, came to 62 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: a twenty seven and fifteen. Lebron just bullied his way 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: to thirty one and eleven and five started. He went 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: thirty one points, eleven assists, eight poarts, five steals. He 65 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: was so the Lakers defense was off the charts against 66 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: Vogel and the Suns. I was just stunned at the 67 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: rotations and how crisp they were. Yeah, Kevin Durant's gonna 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: get some threes from twenty seven feet out, and you know, 69 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: he felt automatic. I was worried that final three was 70 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: going in. He actually missed his final two threes. But 71 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: I thought they did a great job on d book 72 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: who was frustrated all night. Seven turnovers, six baskets, And 73 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,279 Speaker 1: I got to give a lot of credit to Cam Reddish. 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: I thought Cam Reddish's defense on Booker was tremendous and 75 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: it's funny he picked I don't know if this translated 76 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: on TV, but he picked him up full court all 77 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: the time, even if Booker didn't bring the ball up, 78 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I can say this as a youthe 79 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: basketball coach. That's one of my strategies, Like I'm hounding, 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm in the jersey of their best player ninety four feet. Well, 81 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: they don't play on a ninety four four code, but 82 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And Reddish and Vanderbilt were 83 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: picking up d book length to the floor and that 84 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: does wear on you, man. I mean, Booker had to 85 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: do so much y at eleven boards, six assists, He's creating, 86 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: he's he's trying to play defense, he's trying to box out, 87 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: he's trying to do everything and score and it just 88 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: wasn't his night. Six to sixteen from the field. I 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: just this was a complete performance from the Lakers. And 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: then I wanted to save my best for last rob 91 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: Gie and I cannot forget him. Austin Reeves was just 92 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: a freaking hero. I mean this guy. So third quarter, 93 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: Lakers come out sluggish, Sons grabbed the lead and Austin 94 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: Reeves scores fourteen points in the quarter to keep the 95 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: Lakers afloat eighty. Couldn't make a damn thing. Lebron looked 96 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: like he was saving his energy for the fourth and 97 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: theyd Hey get us to the fourth quarter. It was 98 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: like a relay team, you know where obviously you save 99 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: your fastest runner for the for the final leg, but 100 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: you want to have you want to have a great start, 101 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: and the Lakers did. Lebron and eighty just dominated first half, 102 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: and then in the third quarter they did not have 103 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: that leg covered, and then Austin Reeves stepped up, and 104 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: then of course Reeves hits the dagger three. At the end, 105 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: he was a team high plus seventeen. Listen. I know 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: people are like, listen, I Dangel Russell stings. He had 107 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: another rough night, three of eleven. But Austin Reeves is 108 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: on the court when it matters. And I tell this 109 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: to all these kids who are like, man, he's so 110 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: good on this basketball team, but he's not starting. I'm like, dude, 111 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: it's not who starts, it's who finishes. Okay, those are 112 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: the clutch players, the guys who play at both ends. 113 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: We know Russell doesn't play a lick a d okay, 114 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: and Austin Reeves is just everywhere. And I did make 115 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: the decision. Guys, I'm gonna be getting an Austin Reeves jersey. 116 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: That will be my next NBA jersey. Purchase. I'm more 117 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: of a throwback guy, and I'm still waiting for the 118 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: I think it's the Kelly Green Luca MAVs throwback. That 119 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: eighties MAVs jersey is just so fire. And after that, 120 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Austin Reeves of the Lakers. Rob It's official. 121 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm getting it. 122 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: I mean, he is you know, Timothy Duncan, so Timothy Shallamy, 123 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: what pick your favorite? He is him. It was not 124 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: the cleanest played game, Like you mentioned, the Lakers could 125 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: not hit the red side of a barn and the 126 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns had more turnovers than a bakery. So it 127 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: was very sloppy, but it was very entertaining. And the 128 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: one thing that everyone's kind of clinging onto in the 129 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: aftermath in the hours of the morning here on Wednesday, 130 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: is the timeout that was grounded to the Lakers in 131 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: the final seconds, very controversially. Even as a Laker Van, 132 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: I can admit that the rest got it wrong, but 133 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is, and that kind 134 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: of thing has happened. The one issue I did have 135 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: with it, though, is Devin Booker. Immediately after the game. 136 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: I don't even think he had showered yet went to 137 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: his phone and posted a screen grab of the play 138 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: on his Instagram with like an emoji like what's like confused? Right? 139 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: And then he has time to think about it. He 140 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: mellows out, he takes a shower, he gets dressed, he's 141 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: looking real fresh at the podium and during his answer 142 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: about the play, says, we're not asking for favoritism, just 143 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: a fair chance. And it's like, Bro, you just meant 144 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: you had twenty turnovers. You you were terrible individually six 145 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: to sixteen relatively to what your team needed you to be. 146 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: You were killed on the offensive glass. The Lakers attempted 147 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: twenty seven more shots than you did in the game. 148 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: Even before the timeout was called. They could have called 149 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: the foul on Devin Booker when he bumped into Austin 150 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: Reeves and there was no call. They could have called 151 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: a foul on the possession before that, when both Lebron 152 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: and ad were slapped on the wrist attempting to tip 153 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: in the basket. I would have put him up by four. 154 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: None of those things were calling. You know what play 155 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: goes on. That's why I respect what Kevin Duranzi and 156 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: he's like, look, that call is not the reason we 157 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: lost the game. There was a ton of reasons why 158 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: we lost the game, and I think that that is 159 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: something that has kind of always bothered me about Devin Bookers. 160 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: Might be why I've kind of been late to the 161 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: train on him, even though I know he's a great player. 162 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: But you remember that viral video years and years ago 163 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: where they're doing an open, open run gym and he 164 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: gets double teamed in the corner and he gets upset. 165 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: He says, we're not doubling an open gym. Bro, We're 166 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: not doubling an open yeah. And yokim No's like, no, yeah, 167 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: we are. We working on a game, and he's like, well, 168 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: I want to work on my game. I get double 169 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: all the time in a real game. It's like, well, 170 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: that's part of the game. It is getting double teams. 171 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: And it's like if your first respond to look for 172 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: an excuse, that tells me a lot about who you 173 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: are as a player. And I didn't like that he 174 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: was the first reaction to the game, rather than I 175 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: can't have seven turnovers. I got to shoot better. It's well, 176 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: you know, the refs didn't really give us a fair 177 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: shake there. The I didn't like that at all. 178 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: Well, I mean listen the five hundred thousand dollars game, right. 179 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: I mean they got to get there and win it 180 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: to get a five hundred thousand still. 181 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: Like I mean, this is this is a big game. 182 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: Like I'll say this, I watched a lot of Booker 183 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: up and down the court. Rob. I'm not putting him 184 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: in the Luca category of complaining, but man, he talks 185 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: to the refs a lot, just wearing him out. Like 186 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: I know he was in some foul trouble and maybe 187 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: that triggered it, but I just thought he was up 188 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: and down the court just continuously talking. It just it 189 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: felt a little I don't know if unseemly's the word, 190 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: but it was just like, dude, you're a star. I 191 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: know Reddish is playing great, d but it was just weird, 192 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: weird vibes from him. I am curious. I didn't even 193 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: know who the Lakers were playing on Thursday in the 194 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: se final of the tournament. It looks like it's gonna 195 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: be the Pels. 196 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: Yes, so. 197 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: Like, so I get it. Thursday night football is Steelers 198 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: and Patriots and it's a crap game and nobody cares. 199 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: But the NBA is running so scared of the NFL 200 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: that they scheduled this game for the afternoon. Is that accurate? 201 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: Rob The two pm Pacific start time will be Bucks 202 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: and PA Pacers, and then what is it, five pm Pacific? 203 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: Six six pm Pacific? Then will be Lakers Pelicans because 204 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: they wanted the championship game to be on Saturday away 205 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: from NFL Sunday. 206 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: Smart that okay, got it, And you give them a 207 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: little extra time if you play the games early. But 208 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: a two pm start Pacific for Pacers Bucks. But I 209 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: guess they assume a lot of people aren't watching that anyway, right, Interesting? 210 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: What's your like? I didn't get to watch a lot 211 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: of the Knicks Bucks. I just saw a little, but 212 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: it kind of sort of felt like that game didn't 213 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: have the juice that this one did. 214 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: No, And it's it's, you know, unfortunate because had it 215 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: been Celtics Bucks, it would have had all the juice, 216 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: and unfortunately, you know, the Celtics couldn't get it done 217 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: against the against the Pacers. But as far as Knicks Bucks, 218 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: I mean, Julius Randall was awesome in the first half 219 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 2: and he made every shot and even still it was 220 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: a close game, and so you can always tell in 221 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: one of those situations where if a team is really 222 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: clicking or they're doing all the things that you know 223 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: you'd hope that they do, and it's a close game 224 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: or it's a tie game where you're actually losing, like 225 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: you know what's going to happen, Like there was no 226 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: way that Julius Randoger he bet up for entire forty 227 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: eight minutes. Giannis is a destroyer of worlds. And you know, 228 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: Dame got going there a little bit in the second half, 229 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: and suddenly a four point game becomes fourteen, becomes sixteen, 230 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 2: becomes twenty, and then you know it kind of goes 231 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: from there. 232 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: Bucks currently favored in that one by four and a half. 233 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm not advocating betting on NBA in December. I see 234 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: the Lakers open as one and a half point favorites. 235 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: Oh it looks like it opened it too, and it's 236 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: been bet down to one and a half, So early 237 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: money on the Pels. Hey, by the way, shout out 238 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: to a straight Fire listener who I ran into at 239 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: the Lakers game who wanted to thank before the Pittsburgh 240 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: Steelers Arizona Cardinals under which hit and I was like, Wow, 241 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: this is diehard listener chanting rattling off my wagers from 242 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: Friday's pot. He said he likes the gambling aspects, so 243 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: shout out to that guy. I don't know what we 244 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: do this week for gambling on the NFL. I may 245 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: hit up David Baker. Everybody knows him. I do talk 246 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: to him about the contest. It was shocker. He's like 247 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: doing well. I mind's over. 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I didn't want to go 273 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: back to the Jets, but of course Aaron Rodgers went 274 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: on the Former Punters Show and decided to talk about well, 275 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: I should say, talk around the Zack Wilson quarterback thing 276 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: happening in New York. So I'll quickly address that. But 277 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: I do want to get to the MVP Award, which 278 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: I think is a much better discussion. Okay, so as 279 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: we as we talked about yesterday, so Zach Wilson reportedly 280 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: was they were ready to go back to him a quarterback, 281 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: and He's like, yeah, not that interested. I don't want 282 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: to risk getting injured. Prince's comical, and so of course 283 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: jets QB. Aaron Rodgers, who's paid a million dollars to 284 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: go on the former NFL punter show, the Pat mcavee 285 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: Show every week during the season, is asked about it, 286 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: and he just gives like he's like an armchair psychologist 287 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: sprouting pearls of wisdom about life, liberty, and the pursuit 288 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: of happiness. He doesn't once touch the report. He says 289 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: that all these negative comments in the media, they're all 290 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: about identity. If you need to find your identity in 291 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: those comments to pump you up, you're never going to 292 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: actually get what you want. And at this point, I'm like, 293 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: is he smoking weed? Is he doing aahuasca? Literally? Is 294 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: he saying this? Like does none of this make sense? 295 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about the quarterback situation, and does Zach Wilson 296 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: not want to go back in And he says, you 297 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: can't find your identity or happiness in the media, Like 298 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: why would you give a shit what the media has 299 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: to say, And like that's his response to this kind 300 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: of embarrassing report about the Jets quarterback situation. And it's 301 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: like any real interviewer would have follow it up with, well, 302 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: wait a second, have you talked to Zach, what does 303 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: he say? Or Aaron you know, do you think Zach 304 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: can go back out there? Or Aaron you know they 305 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: they got Zach out of there to put Tim Boyle in, 306 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: Tim boils out and cut by the Jets like three 307 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: weeks later, Like this is an embarrassment, and Rogers doesn't 308 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: touch any of it because he's just smarter than everyone else. 309 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you guys heard the news recently that 310 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Warren Buffett's like right hand man forever, Charlie Munger, had 311 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: died at the age of ninety nine recently, And of 312 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: course when he passed, everybody put all these old videos 313 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: of him up saying stuff, and one of them that 314 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: cut through and I had to write it down in 315 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: my note section on my phone because it was so good. 316 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: He said, you don't want to hire the guy with 317 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: an or no, you want to hire the guy with 318 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: an IQ of one thirty that thinks his IQ is 319 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: one twenty. The guy with an IQ of one fifty 320 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: who thinks it's one seventy will end up killing you. 321 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is the guy with an IQ of one 322 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: fifty but he thinks his IQ's one seventy. You don't 323 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: want to be around those people. Yeah, they're smart and intelligent, 324 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: but they overestimate their value and their knowledge. And it's 325 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: just like, listen, occasionally, you're gonna win a Super Bowl 326 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a great season to be the MVP, 327 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: but more often than not, your delusion and lunacy and 328 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: inflated sense of self worth is just gonna is just 329 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: too much. I don't want to be around that. And 330 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I listen. Aaron Rodgers famously like doesn't talk 331 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: to his family members. Aaron Rodgers. You know, it's like 332 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: thirty nine years old and he's not even married. He's 333 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: dated a ton of women, and there's all these rumors 334 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: about all you get engaged and blah blah blah. So 335 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: like who does he hang with? Who are his friends? 336 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: Does he have friends? We know he's kind of a 337 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: strange duck, and he's a bit of a weirdo, but 338 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: clearly he thinks he's the smartest guy in every room. 339 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: He goes into Rob. I just I hear these comments, 340 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: and I'm just so disgusted with the Jets even getting 341 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: in bed with this guy and hitching their wagon to him. Now, 342 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: it's not Rob if you notice, it's not about him 343 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: when you're coming back. Now, it's about like wisdom and 344 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: psychology and playing mind games with the media. Like I 345 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: just I can't do this anymore. 346 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron Rodgers is one of those guys who's made 347 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: the transition to if you can separate what he does 348 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: from the person, you're gonna really like him. And it's 349 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: it's unfortunate to lump him in this category, but it's 350 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: guys like you know r Kelly, Chris Brown, you know 351 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: Michael there's some act yeah, Michael Jackson allegedly like and again. 352 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: And you hate to lump him in with these kind 353 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: of guys because what these other guys are accused of 354 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 2: doing or heinous crimes. What Aaron Rodgers, as far as 355 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: I was, never committed a crime. He just is just 356 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: a funny guy. He's an interesting cat and you almost 357 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 2: have to convince yourself that if you say, hey, if 358 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: I disregard the attitude and the know it all this 359 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: and the smugness and the unlikability for lack of a 360 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: better word, of Aaron Rodgers and just say hey, if 361 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: I watch him play football, he's fucking awesome as a 362 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 2: quarterback or at his peek, he was great. And that's 363 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: kind of where he is now. And I don't know 364 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: when exactly it happened, because for a long time he 365 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: was very private. He didn't really know a whole lot 366 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: about him other than he didn't talk to his family. 367 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: And no one even knew why he didn't talk to 368 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: his family. It was just he's not talking to him, 369 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: and no one could ever get an answer out of him. 370 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: You know, he'd occasionally pop up with some new starlet 371 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: for two or three months and you would see him 372 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: photograph plazes, but he would never talk about it. So 373 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: there was kind of like this mystery about him where 374 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: he didn't know too much and even when he spoke, 375 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: he wasn't as interesting. You know, he was in green Bay, 376 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: like what is there to talk about in green Bay? 377 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: And then somewhere along the lines, you know, maybe right 378 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: around twenty twenty when COVID hit or when Trump took 379 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: office and people started to really voice their opinions on everything, 380 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: whether you were qualified or not, and he kind of 381 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: just took on this persona that really shifted the way 382 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: people view him. Like now his quarterback play is almost 383 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: secondary and where this is the guy who went back 384 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: to back MVPs? Was it four years ago? Three or 385 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: four years ago? Like, it's just a wild turn of 386 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: a events for him, and it's it's a little bit 387 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: depressing because at this point in his career, especially the 388 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: season with the injury. I think Travis Kelsey said the 389 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: best Tuesdays are now his game days. Tuesdays on Pat 390 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: McAfee is what he looks forward to every week. It's 391 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 2: his time to shine the spotlights on him and he 392 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: uses it as an avenue to say incendiary things that 393 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: he knows are going to keep his name in the 394 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: news and is really disappointing. 395 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, very selfish individual. It's funny listening to you break 396 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: down the artists, even if you don't like the music. 397 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: Analogy you could go with, Hey, you meet a girl, 398 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: she seems perfect, friendly, hot, good family, smart, everything, and 399 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you get to politics, and 400 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: she's either extremely to the left or extremely to the right, 401 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: like ultimately like total package. But man, I cannot deal 402 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: with the extreme wokeism or all right, she's on one 403 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: of those sides you just say it's not gonna work, right, 404 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: It's just it's not gonna happen. And that's I feel 405 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers if he just did football and didn't 406 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: do these interview Aaron Rodgers not that bad, but he 407 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: has made it a choice to get his name out there. 408 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: And Rob I also think this is kind of true. 409 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: In Green Bay, they didn't give him any power, right, 410 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: they decided we're trading up in the draft for this. 411 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: We're not drafting a first round pick in a receiver 412 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: in the first round. We're doing this, We're doing that, 413 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: And he didn't have any power control. And I long 414 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: have compared him to Brady, saying that Brady left New 415 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: England where he wasn't running the show. It was Belichick show, 416 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: right to the point where Gronkowski would rather retire than 417 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: keep playing for Belichick. And so Brady goes to Tampa, 418 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: wins the power struggle with Bruce arians and decides all right, Gronk, 419 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: come on back. And then I'm gonna bring in Antonio Brown. 420 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: You could come live with me. I'll be your guy. 421 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: I'll help y'all we need you. And then hey, Leonard Fournette, 422 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm here, come here. So like Brady had the power, 423 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: helped shape the roster and they wouldn't the super Bowl. 424 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 1: And I do think Rob that Aaron Rodgers thought, you 425 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: know what, the Jets really want me. They're desperate, Dave 426 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: and good in the playoffs at a decade, I what 427 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: if I was able to bring in the OC and 428 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: and then I could go get Rental Cobb and I 429 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: like me Cole Hardman and then yeah, I got a 430 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: relationship with Dalvin Cook. I like him, and I'm just 431 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: Tim Boyle. Let's bring the I can. I can have 432 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: some power and control some things. And that was very 433 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: appealing to Rogers, and of course he gets the power, 434 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: and now the Jets are a total dumpster fire and 435 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: embarrassment and the egg is really on a lot of 436 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: his face, is it not? 437 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely? And you know what's funny we talked about this yesterday, 438 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: is the Athletic Reporter that because Rogers has as much power, 439 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: because he got hurt everybody is basically coming back next season, 440 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 2: front office included with the head coaching. As far as. 441 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is, oh wait, hold on, do you buy 442 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: hold on? Do you buy that? 443 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: Yeah? Because it's the Jets. Like like, there's certain franchises 444 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: when you hear reports like that, you're like, that's that 445 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: can't be true, Like that's just that's too far fetch, 446 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: that's such a that's such a simple minded way of thinking. 447 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: And then there's franchises that are like the Jets. My 448 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: Raiders are one of those franchises, you know, the Bears, 449 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: where if there's they can say anything and it wouldn't 450 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: really surprise you because they have a history of ineptitude 451 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 2: and they make the wrong decision at almost every turn. 452 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 2: So I kind of believe that. But again to your 453 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: point about Aaron Rodgers in his power ever since they 454 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: drafted Jordan Love and he had that you know, Rogers 455 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: against the World first season and he won the MVP. 456 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: Right at that moment is when he got the power again. 457 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: He was able to flex his muscle to get the 458 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: contract that he wanted. Doesn't it feel like though, ever 459 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: since that after that first season, when he finally basically 460 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: had green Bay by the balls, and he got the 461 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: contract that he was looking for. Every decision that he's 462 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: made has been the wrong one. Anytime that they've given Rogers, 463 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: whether it's Green Bay or New York, we're gonna give 464 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: into what you want. You're the man, you're our guy. 465 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: Whatever you like, sir, we'll do it. You're the MVP. 466 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: And it seems like every single one of them is 467 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 2: backfired because Green Bay, Yeah, they can't be happy with 468 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: that contract because they had to eat what millions upon 469 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: millions of dollars they get him out of town, and 470 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: then obviously this dumpster fire with the Jets. So you know, 471 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: there's a reason why front offices exist, Like star players 472 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: are not meant to have that much power because most 473 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: star players are so individually fantastic that the things that 474 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: go into building a roster or building a team don't 475 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: even occur to them because they're so special on the 476 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: playing field. 477 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, I think I would largely agree with that. 478 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: It's I think the bigger question is does the owners say, 479 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: you know what, I can't stomach this, Let's just pull 480 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: the plug. Because remember with FARV, they ended up pulling 481 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: the plug on FARV. They fired Mangini, they bring on 482 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan, and they trade up in the draft for 483 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez and I mean rob instantly. Now they were 484 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: a nine to three team before Farv kind of struggled 485 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: at the end. I think there was a shoulder injury, 486 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: but he didn't miss time and the Jets went to 487 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship the following year after Farv. The Jets 488 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: have a lot of talent. The defense is in place. 489 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: You just need a real coach, a game manager, quarterback 490 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: who's not going to screw it up, and an offensive line. 491 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: Now can they do that in one offseason? We don't 492 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: have a second round pick. I've been on the trade 493 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardener train, and I know Jets fans who are 494 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: hearing me say this for the first time aren't gonna 495 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: like it. But you need to protect the quarterback and 496 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: you cannot like, Okay, you want to use the first 497 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: round pick, great, what about the rest of the line. 498 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: You need at least two to three offensive line in 499 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: this offseason at least, and the best way to get 500 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: there is parting with like a Sauce Gardener. DJ reads 501 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: ranked very highly. Anyways, we did too much on the Jets. 502 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: Rob Football is back. No more preseason games. The regular 503 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: season is here. 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Like you guys don't already bet Dallas 522 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: at three at three and a half. San Francisco plays Seattle. 523 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: San fran was twelve and a half. It's down to 524 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: ten rock perties in the MVP hunt. And then there's 525 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill facing a really putrid Tennessee Titan secondary. And 526 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm with you, guys, quarterback lest important position. 527 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: I get it. But in a year where Rogers is hurt, 528 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: Lawrence is hurt, Lawrence, it sounds like he's gonna miss 529 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: two to four weeks. Burrows out the quarterbacks around the league, 530 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: just Deshaun Watson, They're just dropping like flies. And no, 531 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: none of the like hurts, Dak and Purdy. You know 532 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: they all have flaws. If you just look at Tyreek 533 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: hilrob and you look at his stats, you go call 534 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: up the wide receiver stats in the NFL. It is 535 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: staggering how far away and he ahead he is in 536 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: like yards per catch, touchdowns, yards per game, yards out 537 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: every every category for receiving. He is by far number one. Now, yes, 538 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup's been hurt, and Justin Jefferson's been hurt, and 539 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: I think Jamar Chase has been banged up. So some 540 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: of the elite receivers are down a little. Keenan Allen 541 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: leads in receptions, but that's because they have nobody else 542 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: that's just force feeding him. Tyree could still pass him 543 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: because Keenan Allen likely to get hurt given this usage. 544 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: But I actually think there's a case yes for Tyreek Hill. 545 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you now, if Dak does not beat 546 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: the Eagles, he cannot win the MVP Award. Like if 547 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: you look historically, it goes to the number one or 548 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: number two seed and a quarterback. Looked like the last 549 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: ten years. And I've been pumping up the rock party 550 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: here for a while. And again if you want to 551 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: go look at the SATs and people will say, well, 552 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: this is just Jimmy Garoppolo all over again, guys, it is. 553 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: That's not even close to accurate. I went and looked 554 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: up twenty nineteen Jimmy Garoppolo when they went to the 555 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He was not number one in any passing category. 556 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: He was some top five, some top ten, top fifteen, 557 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: but he was not number one in anything. Brock Purty 558 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: as of now, is number one in completion percentage. He 559 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: is number one. Hold on, I wrote all of them 560 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: down here. Damn it, I can't find it. He was 561 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: number one completion percentage number one in yards per attempt 562 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: quarterback rating qbr EPA per play success rate, every quote, 563 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: every quarterback. Rock Purty is number one, So why is 564 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: their pushback? And somebody smart texted me, hey, Jay, you 565 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: just need to let and it was during during the show, 566 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: Cowhard and I were going back and forth on this, 567 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: so he's like, do you remember Joe Montana. We never 568 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: heard anything. Well, Joe Montana had a stacked deck, Bill Walsh, 569 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig, it was Dwight I 570 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: think Dwight Clark. Yeah, Dwight Clark in the early eighties. 571 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean the defense had Ronnie Lott. Like those were 572 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: loaded teams, and it's just a weird thing. Like Magic 573 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: Johnson goes to the Lakers and he's instantly got Kareem 574 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: Rob Dul Jabbar and then he gets James Worthy and 575 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: it's like, geez, I mean he loaded teams, and you 576 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: look at Joe Montana loaded teams. But we don't say 577 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: that about those guys. We say that about Brock Purty. Why, well, 578 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: he didn't go to Notre Dame like Joe Montana. By 579 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: the way, Joe Montana was not the number one overall pick. 580 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: I think it was the third round pick, and it 581 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, he's good, but he doesn't have the 582 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: huge arm, he doesn't have the strapping six four sides. 583 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: He's a big guy, but he's not like the prototol. 584 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: He's not as big as like Marino and doesn't have 585 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: the arm. And it was like, okay, he's a third 586 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: round pick. And all of a sudden he goes in 587 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: And then now I know I can hear you guys 588 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: yelling into the earbuds as you listen. Wait a minute, Jay, 589 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: who was Jerry Rice? Fair Enough? Who was Brandon Ayuk? 590 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: Who was Deebo? Samuel Christoph McCaffrey was a first round 591 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: pick that they traded for, And like Roger Craig, guys 592 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: you could scoff Roger Craig back in the day. Was 593 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: a bad boy. Who was George Kittle. You know, it's 594 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: not like any of these guys were top five picks 595 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 1: other than McCaffrey was top ten, I think. But it's like, 596 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna say, Jerry Rice came out of nowhere. Yeah, obviously, 597 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: it's not like Joe Montana made Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice 598 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: made Jerry Rice, like his work ethic is unparalleled. I mean, 599 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: the whole league missed on him. And I actually think 600 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: Rob that there is a little parallel to Montana, but 601 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: I think the better one and I know people hate 602 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: this is Tom Brady. He came in seventh on the 603 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: quarterback depth list chart at Michigan, goes to the NFL 604 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: sixth round pick. Everybody passes on him, sitting behind Bledsoe 605 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: comes in, game manages his way to a super Bowl. 606 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, he's just a fill in and game manager. 607 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: And he does it again and it's like, well he's okay, 608 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: but like, come on, it's one drive late and the 609 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: kicker won the Super Bowl, and like, well, people refuse 610 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: to respect Brady. And I know, you guys forget this 611 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: first like four years, No, he wasn't getting any respect. 612 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: It was always, well it's Belichick, and oh my gosh, 613 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: it was who's the MVP. Deon Branch was the MVP 614 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, and like, it wasn't Brady. He 615 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: didn't get it until they got Randy Moss, who was 616 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: a top ten first round pick. And of course Randy 617 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: Moss gets Brady to throw a fifty touchdown passes, and 618 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: now Tom Brady is the man. He has cemented. I'm 619 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: looking at his stats, and Rob, let's just quickly look 620 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: at he didn't in his first year eleven and three 621 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: as the starter, was a pro bowler. Second year nine 622 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: and seven, third year fourteen and two, and he only 623 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: finished third in the MVP voting fourteen and two. Again, 624 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: did not finish top five and a MVP next year 625 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: ten and six, third in MVP voting twelve and four, 626 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: not even an MVP finalist. Then came Randy Moss sixteen 627 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: to oh fifty touchdowns and he won the MVP. I'm 628 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: telling you, there is like this weird mental block and 629 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: hurdle around giving underdog's respect, Purdy, he's just not gonna 630 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: get it. He was the last pick in the draft. 631 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: Brady didn't get it until they were perfect, and he 632 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: threw fifty touchdowns. And Rob, maybe I'm going overboard. I'm 633 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: not saying he's gonna be the next time Brady, but 634 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying the parallel of late pick thriving in a 635 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: good system, all of that applies to perty and I 636 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: think if the league were smart now, Brady wasn't leading 637 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: number one in the NFL in any I don't think 638 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: you oh he no, he was not number one and 639 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: completion percentage or any of that stuff in his first 640 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 1: few years. Twenty eight touchdowns in the year two led 641 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: the league, but they were only nine and seven. And 642 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: it's like, we now have a lot more advanced stats 643 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: and perty Is slaying all of them. And you can say, oh, well, China, 644 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: hint this with Groppolo. Garoppolo played very well in it, 645 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: but he was not number one far and away like 646 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: perty Is. I don't know, Rob, I'm off my soapbox. 647 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: No, I mean, you know, I hate to push back 648 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: on any brock party stuff because you know'm a broock 649 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: pretty guy. I'm famously a brock pretty guy. But to 650 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: add some additional statistics to back up your case here 651 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: on the season, brock purty now is four games with 652 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: at least three touchdown passes passer rating of one forty 653 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: or higher in a season. That's tied with Tom Brady 654 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers for the most such game by a 655 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: quarterback in a season in NFL history. You know what 656 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers have in common with those 657 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: years that they did it. Brady two thousand and seven 658 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: Brady and eleven Rogers twenty eleven. They both won the 659 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: MVP that year, So history says that brock Party should 660 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: win the MVP. That's not even counting that he's first 661 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: and passer rating first in year past first thing copleach 662 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: of percentage first, and TD percentage second and three plus 663 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: touchdown games second and twenty plus yards completion, and he 664 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: currently leads the NFL in total EPA and EPA per possession. 665 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: So brock Perty anyway you slice it, is having an 666 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: MVP season. The only reason why he wouldn't win, and 667 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: we've talked about this at nauseum, is that people continue 668 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: to hold his draft slot against him. They refuse to 669 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: believe what their eyes are telling him. That is that 670 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: he is having an incredible season. That he is not 671 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: just along for the ride in San Francisco. He is 672 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 2: driving the bus on almost every game. You know, maybe 673 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: not on a play to play, but there are multiple 674 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: plays in every game that he makes a special throw 675 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: or he does something that leads to them being successful. 676 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: So I have no issue with you having him as 677 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 2: the MVP. I personally have Dak Prescott only be because 678 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: and I'm kind of using my own argument against me 679 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: is because I think that Dak Prescott is more wholly 680 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: responsible for his team's offensive success than Brock Purty is 681 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: for his because brock Purty does have the weapons that 682 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: Dak does not have. Even though the offensive line Dallas 683 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: is better, I think outside of CD Lamb, I think 684 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 2: San Francisco was better across the board at all of 685 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: the key seal positions. And Kyle Shanahan versus Mike McCarthy 686 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: is like Varsity versus JV. So that's why I would 687 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: have Dak Prescott. But if you have brock Purty, I 688 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: have him. Second, I'm not gonna fight you over Brock Party. 689 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: Going back to Tyreek Hill, I like Tyreek Hill. He's 690 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: gonna probably get me to the Fantasy Playoffs. Big fan 691 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: of Tyreek Hill. But the reality is that this is 692 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: now a quarterback award for better or for worse. Most 693 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: recent I'm go down the list of non quarterbacks to 694 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: even be in contentionent for the MVP twenty twenty one, 695 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers famously beats Tom Brady in the MVP Cooper 696 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 2: Cup that year, won the receiving Triple Crown one hundred 697 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: and forty five catches one hundred and forty seven yards 698 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: sixteen touchdowns, got exactly one vote. Twenty nineteen, Michael Thomas 699 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 2: at the time set the NFL record for catches in 700 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 2: the season hundred and forty nine. He had seventeen hundred 701 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 2: yards and nine touchdowns, did not get a single vote. 702 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 2: Calvin Johnson almost had twenty and twenty twelve, which was 703 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: at the time like a ridiculous number to get nineteen 704 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: sixty four and twenty twelve when not everybody's throwing the 705 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: ball over the field the way they are now zero votes. 706 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 2: You'd have to go all the way back to two 707 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 2: thousand and twelve that a non quarterback one NFL MVP, 708 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 2: and all it took was Adrian Peterson running for over 709 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 2: two thousand yards coming off of torn ACL for him 710 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: to win MVP. And even last year they switched the 711 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: vote becauseid hey, you know, you're only to vote for 712 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 2: one guy, and that's why, you know, there was that 713 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: famous story about Russell Wilson, you know, when he was 714 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 2: really cooking in Seattle, and they're like, you know, Russell 715 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: Wilson has never received an MVP vote like that was possible, 716 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: and it's because you gonna live vote for one guy 717 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: every year, so it was just made sense why he 718 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: never got one. So last year they swifted. They shifted 719 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: the point system. You vote one through five, and that's 720 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: how it goes. Even with the point system, Justin Jefferson 721 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: was the highest non quarterback vote getterr He finished fifth. 722 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: The other four guys in order, Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, 723 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow. Last I checked, all four are quarterbacks. 724 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: So unless Tyreek Hill finishes like twenty five hundred yards, whoa. 725 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa hold on, I thought two thousand hadn't been done. 726 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's gonna be seventeen games. So if Calvin 727 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 2: Johnson Megatron hit nineteen sixty four in sixteen games. 728 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: Twenty one fifty. 729 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: Something like that, he's gonna need something ridiculous for him 730 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 2: to even sniff up the first place. 731 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: Not totally. Here's the thing. He's at fourteen eighty one, 732 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: so he needs basically seven hundred yards in the final 733 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: five games. Right, that's doable. Bro their placing the Titans. 734 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: If I were them, given some potential weather games later, 735 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: I would look to see if I could make this 736 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: a Tyreek two hundred yard game. I don't see why not. 737 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: It's the Tennessee secondary is atrocious. I mean it's so bad, 738 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: and if Jeffrey Simmons is out, the pass rush will 739 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: be week I just forced feed Tyreek. I mean, I 740 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: I'm with you mostly. I'm gonna go back to your 741 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: Dak points. So you said you would ultimately lean Dak 742 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: because you think he doesn't have as many weapons, right, 743 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: and thus more value. So it almost sounds like you're 744 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: holding it against Brock Purdy that he has good players 745 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: and by the way, kind he doesn't Ceedee Lamb was 746 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: a higher draft pick than Brandon Ayuk. Obviously McCaffrey was 747 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: a higher picked than Pollard. Deebo Samuel is a second 748 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: round pick. Brandon Cooks I think was a first back 749 00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: in the day. He's a little older. So it just 750 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: if it stinks that we would hold it like we 751 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: didn't hold it against Montana that he had Bill Walsh, 752 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, right, we didn't hold it against Reno that 753 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: he had Don Shula. But again, those guys built up 754 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: their name. They went to Notre Dame. Dan Reno's a 755 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: first round pick, like perty's anonymous. Did you see the 756 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: video of him entering the stadium. I joked that he 757 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: looks like a college kid, like a Sigma Chi social 758 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: chair going home on winter break to work at Abercrombie. 759 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: You know, he's got like a nice haircut. There's nothing 760 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: that stands out about him. He's not getting national commercials now. 761 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: He is only in year two as a starter. But 762 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I. 763 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 2: He staw as a roommate if if memory serves yea 764 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 2: like he's. 765 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: Making a lot of money. I don't Yeah, And maybe 766 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: we changed your opinion on MVP, And well, I know 767 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: nobody cares about the Jets anymore. All Right, we are 768 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: back tomorrow. We'll talk to you then.