WEBVTT - Dear Diary

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica, I'm Mila.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy hump day.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy hump day, bitches.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great? Yeah, I am. Today's a good day. Because

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<v Speaker 2>Good Mom's Bad Choices is officially trademarked in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all ha, y'all can't take our shie.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw ours Good Mom's Bad Choices for life. Bitches. Congratulations, congratulations.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's official now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've been official, but now everyone else knows.

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<v Speaker 2>But the government said it's official, so no one can

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<v Speaker 2>steal it. It's official now, it's official official. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>I know. It's just no one can steal it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's all that means. I think so, and we can

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<v Speaker 2>sue people as they try and use it. We could

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<v Speaker 2>do a season.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the fun out of you? Hey?

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<v Speaker 2>You better take that off your page?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What does that say? Good Mom's I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to ceasee a bitch?

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<v Speaker 2>Call our lawyers.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, I wish, I wish a bitch would try to

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<v Speaker 1>wish a bitch would tempt me to cease her.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to pay us five dollars for using

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<v Speaker 2>that on your social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck that five thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well it doesn't either way.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the power to use the attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you a laws on our side?

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<v Speaker 2>The laws on our side because we do the business thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, I'm good, I'm great. It's you know, it's summertime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hot as fucking l a blood ever June. It's

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<v Speaker 1>sledover June. I hope you guys have been sled ever

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<v Speaker 1>in your life. Away whatever it's ludovering means to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, I'm great, good, I am doing good. I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna blast you right now because I know your business,

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<v Speaker 2>bast I was just gonna say, if you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>tell about your like weird experience over the week, but

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<v Speaker 2>my weird experience with what one of your boyfriends.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, okay, I no, he wasn't your boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>He's never my boyfriend, let's be clear. Second of all,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want to blast that he's crazy? Nigga's

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<v Speaker 1>be tripping.

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<v Speaker 2>We already knew that I was entertained by the story.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought maybe our people would be entertained too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, okay, so basically, where do I start. I

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<v Speaker 1>got all the red flags. I ignored them.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't have sex, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I did not have sex because I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>last month we were abstaining from sex, and and even

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<v Speaker 1>before that, because I actually started talking to him in

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<v Speaker 1>February and we've never had sex, like from February all

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<v Speaker 1>the way through May. And yeah, he was just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure he's a nice person. He is just a needing

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<v Speaker 1>of support.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the nicest way I've ever heard of. Bitch say

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<v Speaker 2>Nick is crazy he needs better help. Literally. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I shouldn't say Nick is crazy because that's like no.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so, you know, I was kind of off

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<v Speaker 1>him because he was tripping about. You know, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>weird around his birthday. I don't know what happened on

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<v Speaker 1>his birthday, but he doesn't really fuck. He doesn't like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's low energy on his birthday. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe i'll take you out on your birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>He agreed, and he's like basically was like like no,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind, and I was like, okay, whatever. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pushed it aside. And then anyway, fast forward to

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<v Speaker 1>I was eating dinner by myself and he hit me

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<v Speaker 1>and was like I'm gonna come hang out with you,

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<v Speaker 1>come like pull up on you. And I could just

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<v Speaker 1>tell like his energy was like very chipper, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>not like a chipper type of nigga. He's like very

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, yeah, okay, you know. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>why the fuck is he so fucking chipper? And he

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<v Speaker 1>came and was just like very combative. Like I asked

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<v Speaker 1>him like, so, how is your day and he was

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<v Speaker 1>like was fine. I was like, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be positive. What was the best part of your day?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, la traffic and I'm like okay. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he goes, what's the most disappointing thing happening in

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<v Speaker 1>your life right now? And I was like, I guess what?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said nothing. Actually, I was like, of course

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<v Speaker 1>I feel disappointment, but in like in the moment, but

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<v Speaker 1>I usually am able to release that I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have anything disappointing in my life. Actually, my life's going

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fucking great right now. Besides you sitting across from

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<v Speaker 1>me with your negativity, And I said, that's what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I don't really have any negative

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<v Speaker 1>things in my life. Whatever it isn't for me isn't

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<v Speaker 1>for me. And then he was like okay, black Queen, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Queen Queen. I was like fuck And obviously he was

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<v Speaker 1>being facetious and sarcastic, like he was not black queening

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<v Speaker 1>me like Happy Bay would.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the part where I really didn't like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the part that really pissed me off. Well, I'll beat

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<v Speaker 2>his ass. I'll beat you, I'll find you, and I

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<v Speaker 2>will curse you out for this one mister Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he said, you know you carry your loads so light.

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<v Speaker 1>You must have a light load. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>not really, I just you know, I have good days,

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<v Speaker 1>I have bad days. And he's like, yeah, well, if

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<v Speaker 1>we put all of our problems in a box and

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<v Speaker 1>we shook it up and you picked out one of

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<v Speaker 1>my problems like it would be very you would not

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You would run. And I was like ok okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like why would I run? He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you want me to rehash my traumas and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like you brought it up, Like what the fuck is

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with you? And then I was like okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know how I'm so at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the last three months I've known this person

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<v Speaker 1>it's been incredibly hard to get to know him, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't share anything with me, Like I've told you,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really talk. We just like cuddle, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>shows up to my house, we say like four words,

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<v Speaker 1>then we cuddle, and then we fall asleep, then we

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<v Speaker 1>wake up and then that's it. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because he's a Gemini, and like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like me and Geminis have this like unspoken like it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be said certain things at least that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's like.

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<v Speaker 2>The way you treat your trauma, the way that's a trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my trauma response to Geminis. I'm like, you're so mysterious,

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<v Speaker 1>but we just don't need to say anything. I just

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<v Speaker 1>know you already anyway. So I was just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really understand how I'm supposed to get to

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<v Speaker 1>know you if you don't want to share anything with me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like anytime I ask you anything personal, you literally just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to share it. So what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, your thinking is so menace that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't pick up my breadcrumbs and figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>You want me to deliver the whole loaf nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think I'm gonna fucking chase your motherfucking bread

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<v Speaker 2>crumbs through the magical forest like this is a goddamn

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<v Speaker 2>fairy tale, you've already lost your shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Minuscule, minuscule mother.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very disrespectful, and it's very gaslighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was like, and he was just like

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<v Speaker 1>heights like I could just in between the conversation, like

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<v Speaker 1>when we weren't talking, he was just like staring at me,

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<v Speaker 1>like smiling, and I was like staring at him smiling

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<v Speaker 1>and then like laughing because I was like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck is wrong with you? So anyway, after he said

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<v Speaker 1>that disrespectful shit, I was like, I don't like your energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you should leave now. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>was like what and then like I saw like tears

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<v Speaker 1>well up in his eyes. I was like, you are

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking psycho. And then I was like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like your energy. You should leave now. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>dapped me and walked away. And then I immediately called

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<v Speaker 1>my friends and I was like, am I crazy? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not crazy? This nig's crazy. And then I had this

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<v Speaker 1>whole conversation on Slack because Yo, Slack community. I'm loving

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<v Speaker 1>Slack because I have all of the tribe over there

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<v Speaker 1>just like giving me advice. I'm giving them advice. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I sent them what happened and they were like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>he's crazy. And then in the morning I get a

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<v Speaker 1>text basically saying that he was drunk and that he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't remember anything that was said, but that he remembers.

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<v Speaker 1>He disappointed me, and then I wrote to him. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not disappointed. I just know where we stand. I'm cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you figure out whatever the fuck you need

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out peace. And then he was like, well

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<v Speaker 1>what did I say? And I was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to retell you what I said so that we

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<v Speaker 1>can debate whether or not it's true. And he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I need it for point of reference, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>point of reference. Don't fucking drink, don't invite people into

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<v Speaker 1>your space around your birthday if you have trauma, and

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<v Speaker 1>also maybe don't date at all until you figure out

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<v Speaker 1>your traumas. Bye, am getting on a boat then, by

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kidding. Yeah, Then I got on a boat that

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<v Speaker 1>day with my fucking amazing tribe of people that are

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<v Speaker 1>not negative and are positive and thought, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't need that person in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>But more scary than anything is that before I got

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<v Speaker 1>on this boat, my friend s Bashan came to my

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<v Speaker 1>house because we're driving together and I hadn't been outside yet,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he opens the door and he's like, Erica,

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<v Speaker 1>why are there flowers on your window? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about. He's like, there's sunflowers on

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<v Speaker 1>your window. Now rewind like a week before this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>where he was, you know, disrespectful. We went to the

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<v Speaker 1>farmer's market and I casually said, like, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know if he heard me. Apparently he did,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, manipulators hear things because they know how to,

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<v Speaker 1>like they pull things from like little things that you

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<v Speaker 1>say to like make you feel like you're fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, oh my god, I love

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<v Speaker 1>some flowers. Those are my favorite flowers. So fast forward

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<v Speaker 1>to his spiral and then him delivering first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>cheap assed sunflowers on my car. But I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>sunflowers on my car and then I knew for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're absolutely crazy, and also this manipulation might work

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<v Speaker 1>with certain women, and maybe it would have worked with me,

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<v Speaker 1>like the four or five years ago, because there was

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<v Speaker 1>something like when I saw the flowers, I was like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like what, No, No, what the fuck? Hell? No?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, when did you come a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little crazy the first when you told me the story?

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing I thought, it's like, Oh, he's used

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<v Speaker 2>to fucking with like dumb ass bitches. No, for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know there's bitches are like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you being mean to me? Like why are

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<v Speaker 2>you treating me this way? What's wrong with you? Like no,

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<v Speaker 2>uh uh nope.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so mm hmm. That's done. But what was the

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<v Speaker 1>point of Vie airing out this thing? Oh? Nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>confirm that men are crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I I just wanted to say men still be acting crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and be careful. Be careful out there, ladies. They will

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<v Speaker 2>trick you, and they will try you, and they will

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<v Speaker 2>confuse the shit out of you. But we're here to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you it's not you, it's them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. It felt really good, And I've done

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<v Speaker 1>this a few times over the last few years to

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<v Speaker 1>just really flex my boundaries. It's my new favorite flex

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<v Speaker 1>is like flexing my boundaries and the follow through, because

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<v Speaker 1>the follow through is most important, and I'm following through.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I told him you should go, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm that bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, I want to be clear, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>only niggas be crazy, because I know these bitches be

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely crazy too. So same goes for men. If you

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<v Speaker 2>are dealing with some crazy bitches and they show you

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<v Speaker 2>the signs that they're the fuck crazy, exit stage left immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Because also, Gemini matter are absolutely crazy. It's confirmed for

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<v Speaker 1>me now, I know for sure that I will never ever, ever, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>ever ever date a Gemini man. They are unstable humans

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<v Speaker 1>unless they've had extensive therapy. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm half Gemini woman, but I'm not. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any issues. I am perfectly perfect and healed. Anyway, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>happy that I've just exposed me. I've persuaded you to

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<v Speaker 2>tell your business. You want to pick a card for

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<v Speaker 2>the tarots.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, let's pick a card. Okay, today's card is the

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<v Speaker 1>page of swords.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us what the page of swords means? This Pagemilamia, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lucky the page of Swords. New ideas, curiosity, thirst

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<v Speaker 2>for knowledge, new ways of communicating, flexing your boundaries, flexing

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<v Speaker 2>your mother fucking boundaries. Okay, the page of Swords is

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<v Speaker 2>full of energy, passion, and enthusiasm. When this card shows

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<v Speaker 2>up in a tarot reading, you are bursting with new

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<v Speaker 2>ideas and plans for the future. You may be excited

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<v Speaker 2>about starting a new project, pursuing a new approach, or

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<v Speaker 2>learning something new. I feel like we've got this recently.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we did too. Should you pick another one? Alright?

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<v Speaker 1>It comes up.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a lot of ideas, so that would make

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<v Speaker 2>perfect sense. The challenge, however, is whether you can keep

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<v Speaker 2>it up. As with all pages, the beginning always looks promising,

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<v Speaker 2>but you need something else to follow through and.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep up The pace feels accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are very eager to execute an idea that

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<v Speaker 2>you have been having or someone else shared with you. You're

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<v Speaker 2>quite passionate about it and you cannot wait to share

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<v Speaker 2>the progress to others. It is time to be talkative,

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<v Speaker 2>open up and talk about these ideas constructively. Hmmm cool,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a birthing, birthing of ideas and partnerships.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like what we do every week, story of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>What is today's affirmation? M Spirit? What will you deliver

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<v Speaker 1>through me today? I feel like today's affirmation is don't

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<v Speaker 1>be afraid to flex your mother fucking boundaries.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't be afraid to flex your mother fucking boundaries. I

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<v Speaker 2>am flexing my mother fucking boundaries. I am flexing my

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<v Speaker 2>mother fucking boundaries.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to say again that boundaries only

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<v Speaker 1>work you have followed through. Guys, like, don't talk that

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<v Speaker 1>shit and then don't be about that shit, like do

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<v Speaker 1>it follow through. That's the hardest part. It's really easy

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<v Speaker 1>to talk shit. It's really easy for me to say

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never speak to this person again. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even saying I may never speak to this person again,

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<v Speaker 1>like I may encounter him and I actually wish him

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of love because I see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>light in him. But there's it's cloaked and darkness. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I think I was like anytime I would

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<v Speaker 1>see him, like show me some light, I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>There it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But you got to follow through. The follow through is everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't be afraid to flex those motherfucking boundaries and

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<v Speaker 1>follow through.

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<v Speaker 2>People respect the boundaries they have no choice to. People

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<v Speaker 2>do not respect where they keep fucking with you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>fucking with you, and they just say, know they can,

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<v Speaker 2>They just like throw you around like a back dog,

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<v Speaker 2>like she'll be back, She'll be back, exactly. I've done

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<v Speaker 2>that shit for many years. Erica is a firm boundary holder.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not been, but I haven't always been either.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have not always been. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>today we are going to go down memory lane a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Today.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and Mila, you know, have been reflecting a lot on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, our history with sex. You know, at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of this month, we shared our virginity stories and

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<v Speaker 1>just how we got to where we are now and

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<v Speaker 1>the journey, and so I've been reading my old JOT

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<v Speaker 1>diaries and my follow through game was pretty weak.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's even more interesting than revisiting our diaries.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, it's even more interesting because we're sitting

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<v Speaker 2>here with our producer and apparently every teenager didn't fucking

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<v Speaker 2>journal their life away, but apparently Erica and I did

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<v Speaker 2>very early. But it's pretty interesting reading like revisiting our

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<v Speaker 2>teenage and even fucking seven year old selves. And then

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<v Speaker 2>also we're reading The Ethical Slut together right now, so

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<v Speaker 2>it really does dice. It's caused me to dissect the

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<v Speaker 2>things we've been taught our natural behaviors, even as children,

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<v Speaker 2>Like even as children, like the natural like lustiness and

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<v Speaker 2>the attraction and the things that we have as natural

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<v Speaker 2>human beings, you know, and like obviously we're conditioned to

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<v Speaker 2>certain certain ways as women and as boys, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>But like reading The Ethical Slut and really dissecting the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons in which like people have the belief systems that

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<v Speaker 2>they believe, and like a lot of times why those

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<v Speaker 2>relationships don't work out, and then coming to these our

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<v Speaker 2>sex positive selves now is really a really good insight

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<v Speaker 2>on the way we were taught and the things we

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<v Speaker 2>believe and the things we're revisiting and reteaching ourselves for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was telling Meila, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that I was an ethical slut off the bat,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're an unethical slut. No, I was ethical. I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to figure out the ethics, but everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>like shaming me and confusing the fuck out of me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think innately before someone told me what relationships

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<v Speaker 1>are supposed to look like, Like even I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>my seven year old notes to my about boys that

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<v Speaker 1>I liked like. There was no judgment. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>like I like him.

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<v Speaker 2>I like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't I like him? We can like each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's all hang out, you know, versus like I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>love but maybe I'm not because I also love this boy.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe I don't love him because I can't love

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<v Speaker 1>two people. It's not possible, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I know, I just read something else like

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<v Speaker 2>and I love him because he's all mine and nobody

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<v Speaker 2>else's Jesus Christy little Psycho twelve year old.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't, if you guys have to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>our episode sledever whatever did we talk about that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be actually doing a book club starting in

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<v Speaker 1>July with the Ethical Sleds. We want to encourage you

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<v Speaker 1>guys to purchase The Ethical Sled wherever you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>buy books. It is the third edition that we're reading.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a purple cover because they've added some things because

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<v Speaker 2>it's been out for quite some time, like a decade,

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<v Speaker 2>so they've added some pronouns and you know, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're just up with the times and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's by hose By, it's by a Janet Hardy

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<v Speaker 1>and Dossy Easton, and I just want to read the

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<v Speaker 1>first page just so you guys get a little preview

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<v Speaker 1>of what it is that we are diving into in July,

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<v Speaker 1>and really like it's really like helping me understand where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at in my own views and relationship and also

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<v Speaker 1>like where I us and all the things that people

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<v Speaker 1>tell children, kids, mothers, all of them. So Paige one

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<v Speaker 1>who is an ethical slut. Many people dream of having

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<v Speaker 1>an abundance of love and sex and friendship. Some believe

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<v Speaker 1>that such a life is impossible and settle for less

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<v Speaker 1>than what they want, feeling always a little lonely, a

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<v Speaker 1>little frustrated. Others try to achieve their dream but are

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<v Speaker 1>thwarted by outside social pressures or by their own emotions,

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<v Speaker 1>and decide that such dreams must stay in the realm

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<v Speaker 1>of fantasy. A few, though, persist and discover that being

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<v Speaker 1>openly loving, intimate, and sexual with many people is not

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<v Speaker 1>only possible, but can be more rewarding than they ever imagined.

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<v Speaker 1>People have been succeeding at free love for many centuries,

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<v Speaker 1>often quietly without much fanfare. In this book, we will

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<v Speaker 1>share the techniques, the skills, and the ideals that have

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<v Speaker 1>made it work. For them. So who is an ethical slut?

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<v Speaker 1>We are many many others are. Maybe you are too.

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<v Speaker 1>If you dream of freedom, if you dream of intimacy

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<v Speaker 1>both hot and profound, if you dream of an abundance

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<v Speaker 1>of friends and flirtation and affection, of following your desires

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing where they take you, then you've already taken

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<v Speaker 1>the first step. So I'm in.

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<v Speaker 2>Sign me up, DOSSI I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I know. As I've read this book, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been so interesting. They go through and they talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all the myths around sex and just like even why

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<v Speaker 1>marriage was created, which was really just survival and like

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<v Speaker 1>meeting more people around to kind of like make sure

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<v Speaker 1>everyone could eat.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh and then there's a part in there they

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<v Speaker 2>touch on like some history of sex. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that they touch on is during like Nazi

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<v Speaker 2>times during the Holocaust, they were saying how they pushed

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<v Speaker 2>for people not to have more sexual encounters and sexual

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<v Speaker 2>experiences because they contributed that to having free thinking. The

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<v Speaker 2>more in tune with your sexual desires you were and

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<v Speaker 2>more likely you were to act on them, the more

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<v Speaker 2>likely you were to think freely and then go against

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<v Speaker 2>the powers that be which to me makes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this other I'm gonna read this one little part.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm read two because there's they're important. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about just like the psyche and like what happens

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<v Speaker 1>what women are fed, and like basically they're just saying

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<v Speaker 1>female sexuality is a commodity, and like commodities, it's made

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<v Speaker 1>more valuable by its rarity. So a woman who shares

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<v Speaker 1>sex widely is reducing her own market value, which literally

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<v Speaker 1>is just how women are shamed constantly, constantly, like.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like humans or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about like when you first start having sex or

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<v Speaker 1>like cooking up with boys and they want boys always

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<v Speaker 1>ask how many people have you, like had sex with

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<v Speaker 1>out hommy ho you made out with, and they like

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<v Speaker 1>want an actual number because that's as.

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<v Speaker 2>An adult niggas asking me that. I thought that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it kind of ended like around my in

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<v Speaker 1>my mid twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought someone ask me as early as like thirty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was obviously a child. I'm like negative, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, front, I'll say. And then there's also this idea

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<v Speaker 1>that if you really are in love, you will automatically

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<v Speaker 1>lose all interests in others. So basically, yeah, like, once

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<v Speaker 1>you're in love, there's no more sexual attraction or more

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<v Speaker 1>lusting over anyone else than if you do, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>clearly not in love.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's crazy, that's absolutely insane. I mean, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like I was an avid cheater early on,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I first started dating.

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<v Speaker 2>Same because a lot of us are because of these reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like I think, I mean obviously daddy issues.

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<v Speaker 1>I was definitely seeking attention in men and men might

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<v Speaker 1>not men, let's get this straight, boys. Because I was

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I wanted love. I didn't really know what

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like to be loved by a man or

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<v Speaker 1>a boy per se in any capacity. Really. My stepdad

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<v Speaker 1>kind of came into my life around I would think

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<v Speaker 1>I was like nine or ten. But like those like

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<v Speaker 1>anchors and roots, they need to be put in there

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<v Speaker 1>way before that, you know, and I never had that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when I started getting interested, when boy started

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<v Speaker 1>getting interested in me, and I was a mature child,

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<v Speaker 1>like not just physically because I was like my body

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<v Speaker 1>matured rather quickly, but even in like my mindset. I

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<v Speaker 1>think because my mom worked a lot and all the

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<v Speaker 1>people that I was that were around me were always grown.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was listening to a lot of adult conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>People would always tell me how grown I was and

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It was like a good thing, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I like went with that even more, like I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mature, like you know, I think you have also

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<v Speaker 1>like that's like kind of detrimental to children as well,

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<v Speaker 1>like telling a child that, like, oh, you're so mature,

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<v Speaker 1>you're so mature. I get it, Like yes, it makes

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<v Speaker 1>it's this like badge like you're meaning like you are intelligent,

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<v Speaker 1>are intelligent, or like you're not annoying. Basically you're not annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, it was something that like I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wore like a badge like I am mature, like

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye like oh, like i'm sixteen, but no, don't worry,

0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm a mature Like even when I was dating or

0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 2>fucking inappropriately men at sixteen, same thing, Like like I

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<v Speaker 2>just you couldn't tell me that I was like the

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:07.800
<v Speaker 2>rest of the sixteen year olds by but proven by

0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:09.400
<v Speaker 2>these fucking journals, clearly I.

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Was right right because you are you're a baby, but

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 1>people are keep validating your maturity and then you start

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<v Speaker 1>to believe it, and then you start wanting to partake

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<v Speaker 1>in mature activities.

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<v Speaker 2>I read I had done my natal chart like a

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<v Speaker 2>while ago, and I remember I didn't even know a

0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.119
<v Speaker 2>natal chart can like go this deep, but basically it

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 2>said that, and it identify with this that whatever was

0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.399
<v Speaker 2>going on in my house all that time, there was

0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 2>not a lot of attention on me, which was not

0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:36.760
<v Speaker 2>My parents were obsessed with each other. My mom obsessed

0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.360
<v Speaker 2>with my dad, Like it was like they were teenagers,

0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 2>but in they had a house and two kids. Literally

0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:44.679
<v Speaker 2>they were just in their own world. And I remember

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the natal chart said you were always trying to like

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:51.919
<v Speaker 2>be heard and seen. So you've realized that talking eloquently,

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 2>having adult conversations, adults would pay attention to you, and

0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.680
<v Speaker 2>that's how you began to conduct your interactions by being

0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:03.439
<v Speaker 2>smart and like being mature. Oh and I distinctly remember

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:05.920
<v Speaker 2>some bitch, dumb bitch my uncle was dating. My uncle

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 2>was talking in the kitchen and like she started to

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<v Speaker 2>curage and she's like, oh my god, I forgot I

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 2>was talking to you like that. You're a kid. And

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 2>of course I thought, like, yeah, I'm mature. And then

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 2>inevitably people are like, oh, you're grown. You better watch her,

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>she's grown, and.

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>It starts to work against you.

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, you start to believe the things that people tell you,

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 2>and like grown is a big like you know, they

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 2>that's a big thing for girls. I've never heard a

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:31.440
<v Speaker 2>little boy be called grown. True, that's never been said,

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 2>like and I don't even know if, like do white

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 2>parents use the term grown. It's such a like it's

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.879
<v Speaker 2>like you grow, you grown, You better watch her. She fast,

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.919
<v Speaker 2>She's gonna be fast. And inevitably you begin to believe

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 2>those things, like it's very important how you talk to

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 2>your kids. Even I have to check myself about this,

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.640
<v Speaker 2>because you do begin to believe those things, and then

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:56.119
<v Speaker 2>you start dabbling in grown and fast shit. And I

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.159
<v Speaker 2>think it's a combination of two things, you know, or

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of combinations of things. I think sometimes

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 2>we are just born with Lesti's spirits, you know, or

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 2>like more sexual than others for sure, you know. And

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.200
<v Speaker 2>then I think sometimes there's grown ups telling you shit

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 2>that you begin to believe to yourself. And then sometimes

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 2>there's like there's been something that's happened to someone you know,

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 2>like you've been touched, ormalisted or stimulated in some ways,

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 2>and so there are sexual things, but overall it's super important.

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Like I think this whole A lot of our shit

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 2>from the show comes just comes naturally, but like this

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 2>has been This wasn't obviously intentional, but this has been

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 2>an interesting journey while reading our journals and by reading

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 2>these books and really dissecting like the root of our

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 2>our openness and how dedicated we are to constantly just

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 2>reflecting and checking in on ourselves and like our relationship styles.

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you've been listening to the show for

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 2>like six months, you know this is a fucking constant thing.

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 2>Am I open? Am I polly? Am I monogamous? Do

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to be married? Am I slut? Am I home? No? No?

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Am my partner and my secondary partner. I have a

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend and my unicorn. Oh we have boyfriends. Yeah, both

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 2>of us. We're constantly figuring it out because we were

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>told a lot of shit and we've believed a lot

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 2>of shit. So congrats to you for continuously dissecting your sexuality.

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.399
<v Speaker 1>You too, you too. I you know, Mela, me and

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 1>Meila are writing a book.

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 2>We're writing a book.

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're writing a book and We'll share more about

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that later, but it's very exciting and it's been just

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:31.360
<v Speaker 1>really I've had to really reflect on my past and

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>why I am who I am now and what brought

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>me here, and reading these journals like really brought me back.

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>And I've really been reflecting on that maturity aspect because literally,

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>so I heard it so often like you're so mature,

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.399
<v Speaker 1>You're so mature, and then like my body matured and

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 1>then they'd be really be like, wait, how old are you?

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 1>You're thirteen? Oh, I thought you were eighteen, like twenty two,

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Like twenty year old men hitting on me when I'm

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>in middle school, you know, and like I'm not interested

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>in them. Like I was still immature in the ways

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>that I liked boys my age, but I also liked

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>knowing that I was grown, you know, and that I

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>could navigate even with a little like younger boys even

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit more mature than you, oh for sure,

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and like it's just crazy and.

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 2>And the attention you get from that. Yeah.

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, speaking of you know, going way back, way

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>way back, I found a journal from nineteen ninety five.

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.119
<v Speaker 1>I found two journals. One had a lock on it

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>because I'm a Scorpio child and I don't want no

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.159
<v Speaker 1>one reading my shit. And apparently I lost the key.

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Jamila had to bust the goddamn lock open. It was

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>it was like it was a hello. It was a

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>cropy sanrio crop too.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 2>The frog.

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>So this one is from February second. Oh wow, there's

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>band aids on here?

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 2>What is this where you wanted to blackout?

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Like I did. Look, I used band aids to

0:26:55.359 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>block out things and I didn't want people to read anyway.

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>This one is from February second, nineteen ninety five. Dear Diary.

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Now that I'm in second grade, I still miss Max.

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>He is so nice. He and my cousin He My

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>cousin is also so nice, just like Max. I can't

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>believe they're almost like twins. And I wish that I

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 1>can see Max and my cousin David and play Nintendo

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 1>with them. What would we play? This is the next day,

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Dear Diary. I wish Flora was a little nicer. So

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Flora is like my family member and also helps me

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>with Iri. So she was my nanny when I was

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>a child, and she's now my daughter's nanny. If you've

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>been listening, for a while. Then you've heard me talked

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>about Flora. But this is from ninety five, So, dear Diary,

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I wish Flora was a little nicer than she is

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>right now, because last night I was mad. I wish

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to clean my room and I was

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to play the piano overnight and it's really fun.

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>But Flora was not being nice and Stephen and Jessica

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:55.479
<v Speaker 1>were pushing me. At school, I told the teacher and

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>she got in trouble. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>That was very very very very very funny. Today at

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>my house, I wanted to make eggs, but Flora said no,

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what she's talking about. I know how

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to make eggs. I've made them before. Then I went

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 1>upstairs and I almost broke my ankle because Rama, I

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>think I almost broke my ankle. Also today, stupid Sean

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>almost broke my ankle at school because he pushed me.

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Why are so many boys pushing me?

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Why?

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck? Why? As we got an argument, but

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>then we made up. That's ninety five, Erica.

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Wow, it sounds very similar to twenty twenty one Erica.

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>And apparently I also had friends right in my journal I.

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Have either day, did you tell the people that who

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 2>were the two boys that you liked? When was your.

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Cousin Max and David? Max was No, David was my cousin.

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>And I remember, like I literally remember I went to

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a wedding. I probably only met David like twice like

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that moment, but he's stuck in my memory for years.

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember loving David till I was like around nine.

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, because you said you were dancing with them the dance.

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, So we went to the someone's wedding and like

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>he was like the boy and he was dancing. We

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>were dancing together, and that was my first time ever

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>like playing with a boy and then being like huh,

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I like like you, like this is like not normal,

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Like this isn't the same as like last week when

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I was dancing with the other guy, Like this is

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>like I like you? And I was obviously like yeah,

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>like six or seven. Oh yeah, and my daughter is

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>six right now?

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I told you Luna has expressed for likings for

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>a boy in her class because he acts like an adult.

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I like him because he acts aid and acts like

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 2>an adult.

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know is that Aiden's mom. I'm like,

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>you need to calm down. She's like, no, I don't

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 2>like him. I just like him. I just want to

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 2>be his friend. I'm like, okay, that's fine, but I

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 2>can It's so where what is it start to turn?

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Because I remember having a crush on.

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>My car the dance floor. Apparently I had a crush on.

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 2>My cousin too, because he was cute. I guess I

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:08.479
<v Speaker 2>thought he was a little older than me.

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Is with incestual love.

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the first access you have. You gotta do

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>what you gotta do. You gotta find the attractions. You

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 2>cousin come over here.

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I just remember David.

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember Max. I remember Max. We played at the

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>park one time, and I think we played twice ever

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>in life. But you would have thought Max and I

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>knew each other for years, like because I literally thought

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>about Max every day. I remember like lusting over him,

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>but not lusting like I want to even Like it

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even like I wanted to kiss him. He was

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>just ever wanted to be around him. I just wanted

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to hang out with him. I wanted to talk to him.

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I remember feeling that way about a little girl who

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 2>was still like I grew up with her, but I

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>remember thinking like, I can't wait to get back over there.

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I must see Asia. You know it really makes me

0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 2>this most these conversations, mostly when I'm looking for what

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 2>is the moment in which bitches start acting crazy?

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me tell you it's obsessed. Let me tell

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you when I started acting crazy. I have a habit

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>in my journal right here.

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Please tell me what I think.

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>It was probably also ninety five, so I didn't put

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the date, but handwriting looks similar. Okay, actually looks still better.

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 1>It might be end to ninety five, Dear Carmen. So

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>this is I'm writing to my friend in my own diary,

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Dear Carmen. When I was in first grade. Okay, yeah,

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I was six. When I was in first grade, Stephen

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>liked me and I liked him. But then my friend

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Brenda said he likes Jessica. I don't like Jessica. She's mean.

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I never liked her. She always uses me, fucking Jessica.

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's when we start cutting bitches for guys like,

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>oh fuck you, Jessica. You like him too. I just

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I really want to know at what point do women like,

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 2>is it the Disney movies? What the fuck? Because every

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:53.479
<v Speaker 2>single fucking journal entry for like fifteen years, it's like

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Thomas Danian boys Boys Boys, Boys, Boys, Boys kiss hug,

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>good boys. He came over boys boys Boy. I'm like,

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck is happening?

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to read some boy journals.

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>There are none. They don't give a fuck. They're playing

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>basketball and scratching their balls, jacking off. Bitches are reacting crazy.

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. If I have a son, I'm definitely

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>getting my journal and making them right so that I

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>can do a case study.

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 2>It's a great idea. We might need to get pregnant

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 2>just for that.

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Does any do any listeners have any sons that write

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>in journals share their entries. Oh that was another thing

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>because so while I was going through my journals and

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to Mela, because Mila shared before like

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>she has a lot of trauma about like her parents

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and people reading her journals and like our exes reading

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>her journals and just like not feeling safe in the

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>space that you felt safest. And I was like, so

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Iri has a journal, and like so does Luna, Like

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna read their journals?

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>And she was like, we have to fucked up.

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what are we gonna cause the same trauma?

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>We like repeating the trauma. But I'm like, you're right,

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>like I need to know what the fuck is going on.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're gonna read them, but we're gonna not

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>act like we read them.

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure that's what our parents thought they were

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna do too.

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Now our parents are different, our parents are not. I mean,

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm reading some of this shit, and apparently I must

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 2>have really dug my trauma deep into a black hole

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 2>that I've forgotten about, because I mean, I remember hating

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 2>living in my household and thinking it can't wait till

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 2>I get the fuck out of here. But these are

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>like even more clear that my parents were paying me

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>absolutely no attention. So I'm like, oh, this is October eighth,

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four, so what like seventeen years ago?

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Some shit?

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I get you, really, sixteen, dear journal, It's been a

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 2>while anyway. Shit seems to never go well with me

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 2>right now. It seems as though everybody in my house

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>is a stick up their ass, and I'm irritated of

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 2>everybody doing damn there nothing sitting around bitching about everything.

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>You talk back, You're disrespectful. How the fuck you expect

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 2>me to respond when all you do is scream and complain?

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not mean and I don't have an attitude

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 2>until someone gives me a reason have one. And fuck that.

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 2>You're sixteen. I don't need to talk to you. Bullshit.

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Fuck you if I was five. It's the same shit.

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Don't expect what you don't give. This is me. I'm

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the same exact time. I can't stand being here. Sometimes

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to run away. I can't wait till I

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 2>move out. I won't be coming back. So I thought,

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I can't read that because my dad will go to

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>jail more trauma. I've forgotten about gonna give him. I'm

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna give him a pass on that one. And on

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 2>top of that, me and Thomas, I don't know. He

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 2>can't use the phone at his house. He won't buy one,

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>so if he doesn't go to work, we won't speak.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 2>It's frustrating when you need someone, where the hell are they?

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>It's hard, even though it's it's somewhat out of his hands.

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 2>He gets these fucking mood swings and starts. Oh my god,

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I've been loving niggas. It's smooth sings since the fucking

0:34:56.840 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 2>early two thousands, bringing up all these necessary people from

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 2>my past. And he's like, why won't you be with him?

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Or you're a liar When we don't talk, you know,

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like you're talking to guys, and and he does

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 2>this a lot, a lot out of nowhere.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Basically he basically he's shaming you.

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 2>He's slept shaming me early. I yeah, Uh his name

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Thomas Thomas.

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Where's Thomas at now?

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh? He's not doing well. That's the one I told

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>you I saw digging in the trash can on Ventura.

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 2>He started using drugs and he had a lot of

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 2>trauma that I was aware of. And now I believe

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 2>he's on the streets. Thomas, I'm gonna have to tell

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 2>a Luna about that. Let me tell you how your

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>first loves change tremendously. Okay, I don't know what the

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.720
<v Speaker 2>fuck I'm talking about. Oh wait, hold on, He says,

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 2>at least Nat was honest, at least Chanelle was appreciative, Like, damn,

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 2>leave me feeling insecure. If they're all these things that

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:53.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not, then why the fuck are you with my ass?

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Then he's confusing the hell out of me. Then ten

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 2>minutes later he apologizes and says he didn't mean it,

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 2>but too late. But I've already heard how great these

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 2>bitches were and it ain't easy to forget. So now

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I keep comparing myself, feeling insecure as hell.

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh baby, we.

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Haven't really seen each other, and shit just isn't going

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 2>smoothly between us as of now. Don't get me wrong,

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm always here to make shit work on this relationship

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 2>because I love him and I know there's nobody else

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 2>for me. So I'm patient with our situations because he's

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 2>patient with me.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>But I just don't sound doesn't sound patient at all.

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't sound like that at all, Jamila. But I

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 2>just want to make him happy. I don't want him

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 2>depressed or feeling alone or unhappy. He says that a lot.

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not happy the past year, blah blah blah,

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Like damn, I haven't done shit.

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>About you.

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I just want to be the cure to all his

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 2>problems in pain and make everything right. Good night. WHOA,

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I need therapy. I still need fucking therapy.

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I want to be the cure to all his problems

0:36:58.239 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and pain.

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Good night, can I talk to you roun the cancer

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>of my I'm such a cancer Jesus. You know, one

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 2>of the most common DMS we get is always about

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 2>how to introduce yourself to weed. I know this is

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>big scary thing, especially as a mom or as a parent.

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 2>We have all this stigma around it. But like we

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 2>always say, we have the most stress, and it's hard

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 2>for us to give you, you know, top notch weed

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 2>advice because we live in LA and we've kind of

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 2>found our way on our own, because we've had the

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 2>grace to really have trial and error.

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what. I love that this book by Danielle

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Simone Brand really covers all of the bases. It's called

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Weed Mom, The Canny Curious Woman's Guide to healthier relaxation,

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 1>happier parenting, and chilling the fuck out.

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I really love this book because it not only touches

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>on like everything you need to know about weed, but

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 2>also just the basics about THHC, about CBD, about what

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 2>to look for at the dispensary, and it kind of

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 2>gives a lot of tips about how to chill the

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 2>fuck out. I think as moms it's hard to just

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 2>relax and feel guilt free and indulging, and Danielle really

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 2>breaks down like how cannabis can enhance your life, even

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 2>your sex life and self care. And I just I

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 2>love this book so much because she's even given me

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 2>a better outlook on my cannabis use and a better

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>way to understand it and even you know, tell my

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 2>talk to my friends and family about my cannabis use.

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>So make sure you go check out her book. You

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 1>can find it on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, and even

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>online at Walmart.

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Get weed Mom in a store near you, and we'll

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 2>be doing a book club with weed Mom in August,

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 2>so be sure to get it so you can read

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 2>along with us and we can discuss it and we

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 2>can dive into this because it's time for moms and

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 2>weed to be destigmatized.

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Amen.

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:54.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so you know, I you know, I told

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 2>you that I linked up with a unicorn for me

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 2>and my man, right, I know. And most amazing thing

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.760
<v Speaker 2>ever is usually when you're looking to seek a threesome,

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.760
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to find where to find a third person.

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 2>But field app made it so easy. We found a

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 2>girl we liked, we messaged for a little bit, and

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 2>we went out last week.

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>That's so sexy.

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 2>It's super sexy and super fun, and I'm really excited

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 2>to see where this triangle love goes.

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:26.360
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0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:39.640
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0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I also re along with the fact that I was

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>boy crazy as well, that I was an early manifestor.

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize I was manifesting, but as I read

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>my journal, like page by page, there were things that

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I would say that I wanted and then like twenty

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 1>pages in, I had, but I never acknowledged it because

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I was always so fucking hard on myself. I was

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>always felt like I wasn't doing enough, even in like

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 1>my talents, like there was I had this whole chap,

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 1>like this whole like long thing I'm not going to read,

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it's so fucking long, basically saying that like I booked

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>this film and I was in Atlanta, and I was

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>feeling so insecure, and that I didn't feel like I

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 1>deserved to be there, and that I didn't work hard

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>enough even though I fucking booked it and I was there,

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>like and that like I didn't deserve it, and that

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I needed to move to New York and then I

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 1>needed to go take classes in New York so that

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I can be better. And then what did I do?

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I moved to New York and I took classes to

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>be better. Still never acknowledged that I did. That. Still

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.320
<v Speaker 1>was hard on myself, Like even said, there was a

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 1>one passage where I was saying that, like I can't

0:40:57.800 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>wake to move out of my mom's house. I just

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 1>don't want to go back to college. I hate college.

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping something comes up.

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping something comes up. And then like a month later,

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm on tour with Macy Gray. It was just like

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>not realizing that like everything that I was writing was

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>somehow manifesting, even though I didn't believe it, which let

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>me know how powerful I was, even though I was

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>like contradicting myself constantly, and now no, and now like

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 1>being the manifestor that I am and that we are

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>like and being in a positive space and seeing how

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>positive thoughts, how quickly they materialize, you know, I wish

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm so excited to be encouraging that and

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Irene now, you know, like and really putting a word

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to it and giving her like a toolbox so she

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>understands like what it is that she's doing, because I

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize what I was doing. I also I didn't

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>realize how incredibly insecure I was.

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, clearly I was too. Natalie and that bitch

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Chanel were just making me feel incredibly insecure. I've been

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 2>leting niggas make me feel insecure for his centuries. Jesus Christ.

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>There was this poem that I read, Oh my.

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 2>God, my favorite Erica has a long I have to

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 2>go to my mom's house and refurbish some journals. But

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Erica has a long, twenty year bid of journals over here,

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 2>and I'm kind of jealous of my trauma. I realized

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.760
<v Speaker 2>that a lot of my writing trauma that I developed

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 2>a secret language because I'm a psycho and writing was

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 2>such an important part of my childhood and a part

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 2>of my channeling my feelings and being like therapizing. It's

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 2>crazy how like time it's all the same, you know, Like, essentially,

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:31.879
<v Speaker 2>I stopped writing a lot because I've had like four

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 2>hundred instances where my parents, my teachers and people I

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 2>was fucking read my journals. I was probably cheating, they

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 2>found out. And so during my pregnancy and during that

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 2>time where I really wish I had record, I was

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 2>so terrified to write because my baby daddy read all

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 2>my shit. But I see how like the talking on

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 2>the podcast kind of has facilitated that same thing. And

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 2>even right now as we're writing a book, as we

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:58.399
<v Speaker 2>have this grand, amazing opportunity to write this book, and

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:00.399
<v Speaker 2>we've i mean, I've questioned it, like how the fuck

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 2>am I writing a book? I'm an author, I'm having

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to write a book, even though it clearly

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I had been authoring for four hundred years. But there's

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 2>that questioning of it, you know. But like this, even

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 2>these journals are a manifestation of what the fuck we're

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 2>doing right now it's crazy. But anyway, I'm really jealous

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>that you have vivid memories of your pregnancy and that

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 2>relationship that I was too afraid to have. Are you

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 2>going to share your poem or which one?

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna before I go to the poem,

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>because the poem was about my baby daddy and social

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>media because Instagram started and then I was tripping. But

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 1>this was actually the person I lost my virginity too.

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>So this person, his name was Kyle, and he went

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to the all boy high school behind my house. And

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you would have thought I knew him for a long time,

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:41.760
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't.

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've teenage. In teenage years, a week is.

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Like four months at least. So I actually had a

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend at the time that I was with and we

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.359
<v Speaker 1>had been together for like nine months, and like we'd

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 1>never had sex, of course, like we'd like made out.

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>He like fingered me. Maybe I like gave a blowjaw,

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>because like when you're in like eighth grade at a

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>private school, if you're not occasionally giving blowjobs and you're

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>prude and nobody wants to be proved.

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I gave blue jobs when I don't

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 2>think I gave blow jobs, and thirteen.

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I gave like one or two.

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:16.799
<v Speaker 2>It was occasional ocrobably. I was like, I might have

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 2>waited till.

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I remember my first blowjob. It was in Oh my,

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. It was behind the alley in Santa Monica. Like,

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>oh God, this is so sad. I'm sorry, mom, Jesus

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Christ is so sad. Also, this goes along with my

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>like virginity story where I lost my virginity in the

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 1>backyard and a shed, like just not beautiful moments that

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you'd hope your child would have when like having these moments,

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Like God. Anyway, this is from February fourteenth, Valentine's Day,

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three. Hey baby, what's up? I'm just

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>was this is z was up? I'm just writing this

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>letter to say Happy Valentine's Day. Damn, I can't believe

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 1>it's already been a year that I've been knowing you.

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, this is this is an old one. I

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 1>remember last year you wrote me a letter, so I

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 1>thought I'd write you one this time. This time last year,

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I was with that nigga Aaron, and of course tripping

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>over yos and then we all know what happened the

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 1>day after Valentine's Day, and it's literally a picture a

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 1>stick figure of people fucking.

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 2>One stick figure benover went behind the other stick. I

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 2>don't think I've also ever made stick figures in that figurine.

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 2>The boy you were a freak.

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Lol, too bad this V Day you were sick aka cheating. Anyways,

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 1>after all that went down, I was sprung on you

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.280
<v Speaker 1>and then the drama began. Let me refresh your memory,

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and then I underlined Megan, Damn, that was messed up.

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's cool because I got me a boyfriend, even

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>though you think he looks like a gargoyle. Oh yeah,

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I did have a boyfriend. I had another boyfriend at

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>this time too. Because Kyle wouldn't commit to me. He

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:55.280
<v Speaker 1>was like the private school all boy ho I. I

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 1>wanted to lock him down. I was going to make

0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>him settle down, because that's what bitches do. We will

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:01.839
<v Speaker 1>settle down. That guy that will not settle down.

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Is that a part of our like like our DNA manifesto,

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.240
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like like that's just our goal in life.

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 1>And Kyle kept trying to tell me he wasn't going

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:13.240
<v Speaker 1>to settle down like he was actually an ethical slut. Okay,

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>then you and her breakup, and Carrie and I break up,

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and now we're back to where we started, which I

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>think is a good thing because I missed you. Man.

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm also writing this letter to say thank you for

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.319
<v Speaker 1>listening to all my shit with Carrie that I know

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to hear, but listened. Anyways, anyway, back

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:31.439
<v Speaker 1>to the subject of Valentine's Day, which I guess symbolizes love.

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I also wanted to let you know I love you

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and have loved you for a while, but you already

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>knew that. Just thought i'd tell you again. You mean

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>so much to me, and I hope that we stay

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>knowing each other for a long time because maybe one

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>day we can turn what we have into more. That's

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.280
<v Speaker 1>really up to you, because you're the one who doesn't

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>want to ruin what we have, which I understand. But anyways,

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Happy Valentine's Day, baby, Love Always, Erica Psycho very confusing,

0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I go this was the vol did I not? Maybe

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't give him these letters. I don't know why

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I have these letters that I did not give them

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 1>to him. I don't know.

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 2>You're just getting your feelings out this one.

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Was from the year before before. This is the when

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I read him before I wrote him before I lost

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 1>my virginity, because I was going back and forth and

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 1>saying that I really like my boyfriend, that he's done

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong, and I really like him, but I also

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like you. And that was me trying to be an

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>ethical slut and telling him like, look, I really like you,

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 1>but I also like this guy, but like I can't

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 1>stop thinking about you, so maybe we should just hang

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:26.760
<v Speaker 1>out and like just take it slow. And then literally

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:28.839
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours later, I lost my virginity to.

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Him, Let's take a bolt, here's my ass.

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>There, you go, meet me in the shed. Yeah, it's

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>so interesting to read that, And you know, that was

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a really defining moment in my life, him losing my

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>virginity and then him like being really careless with that,

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:47.399
<v Speaker 1>like he didn't really give a fuck. And not only

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that was I think I shared too that when I

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 1>lost my virginity, I didn't bleed and he didn't believe

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that I was a virgin and it's kind of like

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 1>shamed me, and I thought there was something wrong with me,

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Like why didn't I bleed? Is my pussy broken? Like

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.880
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck, and not having anyone to really talk

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>to anybody about that with except maybe like my thirteen

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:07.840
<v Speaker 1>year old friends who obviously don't know shit about cherry

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 1>popping and virginity. When really I wish I would have

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:13.359
<v Speaker 1>been able to ask my mom now, I really wish

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:14.839
<v Speaker 1>I could have been able to be like, Mom, look

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>this happened. I know you're not gonna love it, but like,

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>is my pussy broken?

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Mom? I just need to know this guy told me

0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 2>my pussy's broken? Is it true?

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Or no? Okay?

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:30.799
<v Speaker 2>Thanks? But he said that I had sex? Did I?

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm confused?

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, because then I kind of like then I started

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 1>seeking I literally would have sex with people sometimes to

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>just I needed to get validated to know that my

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.279
<v Speaker 1>pussy was good because of that trauma, because I was like,

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 1>is it not good? Does that not mean it was good?

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:47.240
<v Speaker 1>And he said I was experienced. He said I seemed

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:49.839
<v Speaker 1>experienced and that I didn't belied, and so basically I

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 1>lied and that I probably wasn't a virgin was shaming.

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I could see where my like Thomas not leving me back.

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I started to be like, fuck niggas, fuck niggas, fuck

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 2>them on, I don't need them and then I started

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 2>acting crazy.

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of crazy, I'm just gonna go read this last poem.

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:11.399
<v Speaker 1>This is my last entry, guys, and you can't wait

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 1>for me to read all my.

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Diary entries specifically for this.

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>But I did, like when me and my baby daddy

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>started dating, I started, I didn't write as much. There

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 1>were moments that I wrote, but I remember distinctly when

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Instagram was created and I started posting and he started posting,

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.279
<v Speaker 1>and at the time, like, you know, no, I think.

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone had a lot of followers. But

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I had moved to New York. Actually we had broken up.

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 1>I had moved to New York, and he was like

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 1>claiming he loved me still and wanted me back, and

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I was just so annoyed, and I was like, why

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 1>don't you ever post me on Instagram? And so I

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>wrote this poem to express myself. And it goes a

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 1>little something like this January twentieth, twenty fourteen. It seems petty,

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's not. It makes me feel small. So stop,

0:49:57.680 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>am I a secret? Like the thoughts you go to

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>sleep with? We had this talk before social media and

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:07.479
<v Speaker 1>whoores I know you think it's silly. My friends ask

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 1>what's the dally, so post my picture? Let them know

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you my nigga, ain't afraid to show post my picture

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>just one time. Let these girls know you are mine. End.

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:23.360
<v Speaker 2>That was beautiful.

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Did he post my picture?

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.200
<v Speaker 2>No, I posted your picture every day.

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 1>But the needing of the validation, like I needed him

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to validate me publicly. I needed him to you know what.

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I think part of it too is like even with

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the guy that I lost my virginity to, he never

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>validated me publicly either, Like we never he was never

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:45.720
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend. It was never like we were never linked together,

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and like I wanted so desperately to be like him,

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to call me his. And I think that's why I

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 1>also became addicted to relationships. I was a serial relation

0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:57.839
<v Speaker 1>in the past. I've been a serial relationship person because

0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 1>it gave me the validation of like, I'm yours and

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:02.439
<v Speaker 1>you want me to be yours, and you're gonna tell

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:05.600
<v Speaker 1>people that I'm yours and you're gonna post it on Instagram,

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 1>God damn it, Facebook, and also friends her.

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Friend validation is super important. I'm realizing because I'm reading

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 2>this shit and it's like, oh, he was nice to me.

0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:16.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm in love. I'm sure it's love, but I'm also

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 2>reading my parents were disrespectful to me, and they didn't

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 2>tell me nice things, and they were like always criticizing me,

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 2>criticizing me, criticizing me, And clearly the criticizing caused me

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 2>to seek any type of affirmation and validation from niggas,

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:33.320
<v Speaker 2>and when they didn't do that, I'm like, what the fuck?

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.359
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just searching for this validation. But like how

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:38.759
<v Speaker 2>we talk to our kids is important and vital because

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 2>those they will go search for that shit elsewhere, and

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:45.120
<v Speaker 2>even if it is an empty well of fucking compliments.

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's why the the father role is so important

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 1>to girls. It's so fucking important, and like it's something

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that like I, you know, my co parenting situation is

0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 1>what it is, and you know, I wish that we

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.359
<v Speaker 1>were closer, and I wish that I could, I don't know,

0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 1>just give him some perspective on like certain things that

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>are that like I wish that I had as a

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 1>young girl that I would have heard from my father, Like,

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 1>your father is supposed to be the first person that

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 1>validates you, not some stupid ass little boy you know

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't even know what the fuck that means. And

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not even the little boy's fault. You know, he

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know.

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 2>He's learning too, right, He probably is experiencing fucking trauma

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 2>in his own house.

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Right, And it's just so important, like the role that

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 1>dads play in daughters' lives, because my dad was literally

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 1>not around at all, and so I was constantly trying

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to like, I remember feeling like, oh, that's what that

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:41.399
<v Speaker 1>feels like. Oh I like that, Oh okay, And I

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:44.399
<v Speaker 1>just want my like my daughter to a be able

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:46.400
<v Speaker 1>to come to me, whether she loses her virginity in

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:48.799
<v Speaker 1>a shed or not, and be able to talk to

0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:51.960
<v Speaker 1>me about it, and like, obviously I might be disturbed,

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 1>but I would much rather just take it on the

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 1>chin and be able to have that conversation with her

0:52:56.920 --> 0:52:59.520
<v Speaker 1>than like her never speak to me about sex again

0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and then in such a toxic, unhealthy way sleep with

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:07.360
<v Speaker 1>way too many people in closets at parties, in weird spaces,

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:14.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to search for some sort of like fulfillment. Okay, Amy, I'm.

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Reading, Oh my god, this is kind of traumatic. I'm

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.120
<v Speaker 2>reading When I got an abortion when I was sixteen,

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 2>in how my parents weren't supportive, and it's like throughout

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:28.080
<v Speaker 2>this entire time, from the day I found out I

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 2>was pregnant, all I needed was support through my friends

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:34.399
<v Speaker 2>and Thomas. I received that. There's nothing more I could

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 2>have asked for. It's the most stressful and hardest, most

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 2>painful event of my life thus far, and quite honestly,

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:44.440
<v Speaker 2>after the way you've reacted this is to my parents,

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm still glad I didn't inform you the day first day,

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 2>because had I, you would have added to the guilt

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I was already feeling. You made a comment saying I

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 2>told my mom most recently and she got so pissed.

0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:56.800
<v Speaker 1>She got pissed.

0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Did you remember she denied it. She said I would

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 2>never say that. But the proofs here says you made

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 2>a comment saying you don't care to just throw your

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:08.280
<v Speaker 2>baby in the trash the day after I had an abortion.

0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:11.879
<v Speaker 2>You have no idea how much that hurts or how

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 2>that makes me feel. This event has really made me

0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 2>feel as though in the future had something just as

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 2>draststick come up in my life. No, I honestly wouldn't

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.839
<v Speaker 2>tell you based off how you dealt with this situation.

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Because of this, you're gonna take away my privileges to

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:29.400
<v Speaker 2>leave the house, see my friends and my boyfriend. You

0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:32.759
<v Speaker 2>think because I'm having sex that every time I leave

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 2>the house that's what I'm gonna do, or every time

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I go somewhere I'm lying so I can be with

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:40.319
<v Speaker 2>Thomas to go have sex for you probably, Well, No,

0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't lie about who I'm with or where I'm at.

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm very honest about those things. I've been honest, and

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's fair that because now you know

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sexually active, you're gonna lock me up, because honestly,

0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:53.960
<v Speaker 2>that only leads to more lying. There are girls that

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<v Speaker 2>go to my school and have sex in the church

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:59.919
<v Speaker 2>because it's empty after school. I know of girls super

0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 2>sexual acts behind trees, people have sex anywhere. I'm not

0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:09.200
<v Speaker 2>one of those people. I was, but I'm trying to

0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.279
<v Speaker 2>make you understand that that shouldn't be an issue. And

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 2>as far as my grades go, they're not horrible, but

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 2>I admit second semester they could have been better. But

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<v Speaker 2>it seems now that now that you know I'm involved

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:22.880
<v Speaker 2>with Thomas on a sexual level, you're blaming my grades

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:25.200
<v Speaker 2>on that. Just to remind you, Thomas and I have

0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 2>been dating for almost a year, and first semester I

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 2>was doing just fun. It's no surprise that doing second

0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:33.960
<v Speaker 2>semester my grades seem to drop because it's the end

0:55:34.000 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 2>of the year. But that's my fault, and I'm going

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 2>to change that this year by staying up throughout the

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:42.360
<v Speaker 2>entire year. When I set my mind to do something,

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do it because I know I'm capable

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Better talk that shit.

0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I need you to understand that I'm taking that taking

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:53.360
<v Speaker 2>away privileges isn't the appropriate response to this particular situation

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:56.799
<v Speaker 2>my parenting skills at sixteen. Honestly, I need you to

0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:58.920
<v Speaker 2>be here for me and support me, not putting me

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:01.759
<v Speaker 2>down or making me feel guilty. It's heart already as

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:04.880
<v Speaker 2>it is for me to be here for the same reasons.

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:07.959
<v Speaker 2>But I live with you. You're my mom. It means

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<v Speaker 2>the most coming from you.

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:13.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's so crazy, like kids literally telling their

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:14.360
<v Speaker 1>parents what they need from.

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Them and they're like fuck and their parents are like, no.

0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:18.560
<v Speaker 1>No, fuck that you don't need that, and it's like

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you're literally saying like, if you just created this space,

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I would be able to tell you, and I would

0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I want that. Please give me that, please, please, And

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I would tell that to my mom too. I'd be like,

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:30.359
<v Speaker 1>why don't you think I tell you anything? Because every

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 1>time I tell you, you get upset and then she

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:33.719
<v Speaker 1>would be like, you're being dramatic, and then she would

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 1>get upset and then I'd be like, this is why

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling you shit. It's like I don't know

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 1>what it is. And I have to check myself too,

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 1>because it keeps going to cycle where parents literally forget

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 1>what it was like to be kids. And I don't

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>care what they say. They say they do remember they don't,

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:48.800
<v Speaker 1>or they choose or they just choose not to, or

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:50.920
<v Speaker 1>they get too emotional because it's their kids, you know.

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:52.919
<v Speaker 1>And I get it, like I get I get that.

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I don't actually get it all the way yep,

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:56.560
<v Speaker 1>because my daughter's only six and she has yet to

0:56:56.560 --> 0:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>tell me she's had sex and a shed. But but like,

0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I hope that I can just remember these moments, and like,

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I want to encourage you guys. If you guys are

0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:08.840
<v Speaker 1>at home, and you guys are journalers when you were

0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a kid, go back and read your journals. You might

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:14.520
<v Speaker 1>be surprised about the things A that you forgot the

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:17.560
<v Speaker 1>maturity level in which you had in some cases. I mean,

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:20.960
<v Speaker 1>obviously you're a child, and the ways that even your

0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:25.120
<v Speaker 1>parents overcrossed your boundaries, you know, because kids are not

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 1>allowed to have boundaries for some reason, right, Like you're

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:31.000
<v Speaker 1>not allowed to have boundaries, You're not allowed to have privacy.

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Like it's traumatizing.

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm right home able more. I know,

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 2>it's really making me crazy. I think if I don't

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:39.760
<v Speaker 2>get out of the hell out of my house soon,

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have a nervous fucking breakdown for real.

0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like a struggle you can't win or even fight. Ah.

0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.400
<v Speaker 2>It's like when you push the gas and end up

0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 2>on the same spot. It's like I want to come

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:55.160
<v Speaker 2>up for air, but I can't. It's a suffocating situation.

0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 2>You make me feel lonely and ashamed to be me,

0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:00.360
<v Speaker 2>afraid to recognize my own feelings. You make me feel

0:58:00.360 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know if this is about a nigga

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 2>or my mom. I feel like my dreams will never amount.

0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 2>You make me feel like who I am is not

0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 2>who I'm planned on me being. I'll finish tomorrow, can

0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I I'm too tired to talk to complain any longer.

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:16.600
<v Speaker 2>It's true. And you know what, even like reading the

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Ethical Slut and having this conversation, I guess like the

0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 2>bottom fucking line of the world is niggas be honest

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:26.240
<v Speaker 2>with your kids and with yourself and with the people

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 2>you're fucking because at the end of the day, it's

0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 2>still what the truth is. And like, if your kids

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:32.280
<v Speaker 2>can't be honest with you, if you can't be honest

0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 2>to yourself, if you can't be honest with your kids

0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:36.240
<v Speaker 2>about the shit that you've done, they won't be honest

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.640
<v Speaker 2>to you. And this fucked up cycle continues and continues

0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 2>and continues because people are afraid and ashamed to just

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 2>be who the fuck they are teenager seven years old?

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Another read your journals, guys, if you did it, read

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 1>your journals and reframe your parenting based on your journals.

0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 2>And actually, I take it back, I'm not gonna read

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.440
<v Speaker 2>my kid's journal because me developing this entire language that

0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have to transcript later, it is gonna

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna do this to her because there's obviously

0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 2>trauma in the pudding.

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Ah well, what that said, do we have time for

0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 1>horror stories? I mean, or is this do we have

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:16.480
<v Speaker 1>any time for Let's just do one? Should we do one?

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Just do one quickly?

0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that you know we asked you guys at

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the month to send in your virginity stories,

0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and some of them were horse stories. So I feel

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:31.120
<v Speaker 1>like this is a good What am I trying to say?

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:36.919
<v Speaker 1>These are good ones? Okay? So how did you lose

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:37.760
<v Speaker 1>your virginity?

0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Whose?

0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Stories? On a bathroom floor? At fourteen? I believe my

0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>introduction to sex shaped my overall relationship with sex. It

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't about me, it didn't feel good. I didn't have

0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:55.240
<v Speaker 1>a voice. I was there for someone's use, and I

0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:57.800
<v Speaker 1>was too young to understand that I wasn't valuing myself

0:59:57.840 --> 0:59:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and that it was supposed to be special and even

0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:03.600
<v Speaker 1>an impactwing experience. While I enjoy sex now, I'm still

1:00:03.600 --> 1:00:06.520
<v Speaker 1>being forced to re examine my relationship with it and

1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:11.000
<v Speaker 1>approach it in a way that makes me actually feel empowered.

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<v Speaker 1>This Woor story is after a college party, my two

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:18.120
<v Speaker 1>friends and I decided to go back to the dorms

1:00:18.200 --> 1:00:20.760
<v Speaker 1>with these three guys that we knew. We paired off

1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and started making out with the guys, and then someone

1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:28.280
<v Speaker 1>yelled switch, so we switched makeup partners. But the last switch,

1:00:28.320 --> 1:00:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I was paired up with my crush and decided not

1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to miss out on the opportunity and chose him to

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<v Speaker 1>be my first YEP, I lost my virginity in a

1:00:36.000 --> 1:00:38.680
<v Speaker 1>dorm room with a few of my college friends switching.

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<v Speaker 1>He was fine as fuck and I was having the

1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:41.320
<v Speaker 1>best time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think sometimes we put too much pressure

1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:47.640
<v Speaker 2>on the virginity breaking. I think I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell Lena it's important, like it's important. But like I

1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:52.480
<v Speaker 2>think movies and shit put too much pressure on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you, like I lied for years about where

1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I left. I had lost my virginity because I was

1:00:56.680 --> 1:00:59.120
<v Speaker 2>ashamed that I did with some random assnaket. But like

1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I've survived.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is a true horror story. Where'd you lose

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<v Speaker 1>your virginity? Ugh in the back of a car, bled everywhere,

1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and then he told the entire school. Then someone spread

1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:15.320
<v Speaker 1>a rumor I had aids what it was traumatizing.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids are terrible people.

1:01:17.000 --> 1:01:19.240
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck Aids?

1:01:19.960 --> 1:01:21.400
<v Speaker 2>It's only std they knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay. Last one, I was about fifteen and we

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<v Speaker 1>were dating as far as I was concerned you and

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, yes, I love how we you're my boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the car and it was horrible. It

1:01:33.960 --> 1:01:36.600
<v Speaker 1>lasted maybe five minutes, and his dick was super small.

1:01:36.840 --> 1:01:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even feel the dick, just pressure that small

1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:42.200
<v Speaker 1>to this day, one of the worst experiences I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he had the nerve to play me and started

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<v Speaker 1>dating my friend, but he gave her an STD so

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<v Speaker 1>I guess she got the karma.

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<v Speaker 2>You one, Okay, Well, that's it, Okay, I have one.

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<v Speaker 2>One time I snuck over Thomas's house that I was

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<v Speaker 2>in love with at that time. And when I say sneak,

1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean take the bus four hundred miles to Devonshire

1:02:04.160 --> 1:02:05.920
<v Speaker 2>and I don't even know where, just go to his

1:02:05.960 --> 1:02:08.000
<v Speaker 2>fucking house and back and lie and say. I was

1:02:08.040 --> 1:02:11.920
<v Speaker 2>in dance practice and he was living with this friend

1:02:11.960 --> 1:02:15.240
<v Speaker 2>of his and his dad and his dad's sons and daughter.

1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:17.600
<v Speaker 2>And I was supposed to be over there. And guess

1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:19.840
<v Speaker 2>why while we were middle fucking because I was also

1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:22.680
<v Speaker 2>wearing like lingerie underneath my uniforms because I was a

1:02:22.720 --> 1:02:28.000
<v Speaker 2>progressive teenage slut. And the dad came home and this

1:02:28.120 --> 1:02:30.080
<v Speaker 2>nigga is like get in the closet, and I was

1:02:30.200 --> 1:02:33.680
<v Speaker 2>like so scared to get caught because just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know this Nigga's dad and he was a dad, had

1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:38.240
<v Speaker 2>this deep ass floors. I had to get in the closet,

1:02:39.240 --> 1:02:41.320
<v Speaker 2>jump off the dick, get in the closet, and I

1:02:41.360 --> 1:02:43.480
<v Speaker 2>can hear him like, oh the fuck is in my house.

1:02:43.960 --> 1:02:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like shaking in the closet and then he

1:02:47.920 --> 1:02:49.960
<v Speaker 2>opened slides to the closet rope and I was like,

1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:52.080
<v Speaker 2>get out of the closet. It's okay, just get out

1:02:52.080 --> 1:02:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the closet. I was like fucking traumatizing. I mean, I mean,

1:02:59.040 --> 1:03:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I was my virginity.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you walk to the bus back or what?

1:03:01.720 --> 1:03:02.400
<v Speaker 1>How'd you get home?

1:03:02.560 --> 1:03:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I had you had to get home. I had to

1:03:03.920 --> 1:03:06.720
<v Speaker 2>get on the bus back. But I was going through

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<v Speaker 2>great lengths to get the dick, hiding in closets, getting

1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:12.200
<v Speaker 2>cursed up by people's parents. But I just remember being

1:03:12.440 --> 1:03:17.000
<v Speaker 2>so scared and ashamed, but still getting the dick committed.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have to do this more often. We have

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<v Speaker 2>so many entries. I know, I didn't we get to

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<v Speaker 2>dissect this good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, anyway, you guys, maybe we'll do another episode full

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<v Speaker 1>of diary entries specific to different topics, because I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different topics, have many many topics.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your book, Get Ethical Slut, the Purple version, the

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<v Speaker 2>newest edition, so you can read it along with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric and I will be in Travels in the Jungle.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have not followed our Instagram, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a good time good moms underscore bad choices. We will

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<v Speaker 2>be in the jungle in Costa Rica, writing a book

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<v Speaker 2>and getting into shit, so makes she follows on Instagram. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>please rate and review this episode because it matters. And

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<v Speaker 2>you just listen to this whole shit for free, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's free. Do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, we're going to be in New York the

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<v Speaker 1>first week and second week of July, so we are

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<v Speaker 1>planning a little meet up with our New York tribe,

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<v Speaker 1>so look out for that. I'm really excited to finally

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<v Speaker 1>get back to New York. The last time we were

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<v Speaker 1>in New York was right before COVID. We had an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh we're trying to do a part two of that dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were at the first dinner in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>please reach out to us via DM again because we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do it again. Yeah, it's I think if we

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<v Speaker 2>should just close it for those people, like just those people,

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<v Speaker 2>those people who were there last year. I mean that,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, whatever, We'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit us up, Hit us up. And if you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>joined our Slack community, our message board, please please do so.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I noticed that I posted something on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>the other day and that was kind of triggering for

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<v Speaker 1>certain moms that I feel like they don't have a tribe.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I totally understand that, like meeting new moms

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<v Speaker 1>and meeting new parents can be really intimidating. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why this community is so important, because we have people

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<v Speaker 1>in there from all over the United States that want

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<v Speaker 1>to connect. They want to meet other moms in their city.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're if they fuck with us, they're open minded, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>chill mom. So that's the whole point.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And so we actually have a channel on Slack

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<v Speaker 1>where you can drop where you're at, where you live

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<v Speaker 1>and connect with the mom in your city. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what this whole thing is about. So make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>join Patreon so that you can get a link into

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<v Speaker 1>our Slack community. And I love you guys, right, this

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<v Speaker 1>socord let's says

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<v Speaker 2>Ranza.