1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Let's go, Let's go, 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: let's go. Giants it out on. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: My Giants Bubbling, give me some Jump, part of the 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Giants podcast Network. 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Let's Roll. 6 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 3: Welcome to another edition of the Johns Tottle Podcast, brought 7 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: to you by Citizens, the official. 8 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Bank of the Giants. I am John Schmelke, joined. 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: By the one and only Brian Baldinger for another Baldy 10 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 3: breakdown edition of the Giants Tottle Podcast from the Hackensack 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: of Marine Hill podcast video Keep getting better, Baldy, what's 12 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: going on, bro? 13 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: How are you? 14 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: Well? I'm Mike everybody else you know, we're kind of 15 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: just still unwinding a little bit from the draft, John, 16 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: just trying to review, you know, what has taken place 17 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: as we kind of look ahead to the spring and 18 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: OTA's and mini camps and that kind of thing. 19 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: So you shot you the video from the pool the 20 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: other day. You got the stuns out, guns out. You 21 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: are rocking and rolling in the spring, dude. 22 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it's that time of the year, man. You 23 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: gotta we put a lot into the draft, so you 24 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: got to take a little time off here and sort 25 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: of recharge, recover, all. 26 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: Right, So give me your overall view of the Giants 27 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: draft class. 28 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: How do you think they did? Overall? 29 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: I think they did well. I liked a lot of 30 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: the players, you know, they I saw a bunch of 31 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: them at the Senior Bowl. You know, you see Darius 32 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: Alexander's Senior Bowl. You know, he's a kid that comes 33 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: out of Toledo and you think, okay, Mid America Conference, 34 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: but when you watch them compete with all those SEC 35 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: defensive linemen, we knew it was a very talented defensive 36 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: line draft. He fit right in. And then you know, 37 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: one of my favorite players in this whole draft, Waskataboo. 38 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I think he's gonna be a 39 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: giant favorite right away, just a style of running and 40 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: really just how how talented a runner he is. And 41 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: they got aggressive, John, they got aggressive. They wanted the quarterback. 42 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: But you can't pass up by Duke Carter when he's 43 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: sitting there and you know he's right in your lap, 44 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: you gotta take him. We could talk a lot about him, 45 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: but you know, they got aggressive and got the quarterback. 46 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: And so, uh, you know, I think overall, I thought 47 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: it was it was a strong draft. And you look 48 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: Marcus Bembo. The one thing I like about drafting Embo 49 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: and what they've done this offseason, John is for the 50 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: first time that I can remember a long time, they 51 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: actually have depth on the offense line. They have depth 52 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: from guys they signed in the offseason, guys that are 53 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: returning from a year ago, guys they just drafted, guys 54 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: in free agency. I feel like, if something happens to anybody, 55 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: we're we're not taking somebody off the street. You're not 56 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: playing somebody that's never played that position before. I feel 57 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: like they got real depth to work with. 58 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: I'm with you, all right, So let's start at the top. 59 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: And it's funny, Baldy. 60 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: You talked about the guys you saw at the Senior 61 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 3: Bowl that got you excited up close. 62 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: Same with me. We were both there. We were watching 63 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: right on the field next to each other. 64 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 3: One guy that didn't get to do anything in the 65 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: predraft process was Abdul Carter because of the shoulder injury 66 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: and then the foot injury. 67 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: But man, you know, he's. 68 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: Almost becoming afterthought the Giant fans because they're so excited about, 69 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: you know, drafting a potential franchise quarterback, which I understand 70 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: and we'll get to Jackson Dart a second. 71 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: But I feel like. 72 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: People are losing the plot a little bit and not 73 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: talking about Abdul Carter Can constantly, because my gosh, this 74 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: guy's tape it's so good. I mean, just the the 75 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: array of pass rush move and the athletic ability for 76 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: a guy that's only been doing it for one year 77 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: is just off the charts. 78 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, John. I went to his pro day 79 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: on March twenty eighth. I went out to Stay College 80 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: and I kind of knew he wasn't gonna work out. 81 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: That's fine, but I've never met him before. Drew Rosenhaus 82 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: is an agent, so we end up getting meet talking 83 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: to him. But in advance of that, you know, I 84 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: knew I was gonna talk to coach Franklin, James Franklin 85 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: out there, so I told James, and I'll tell you this, John, 86 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: when I started watching his hotage going back to his 87 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: rookie year, freshman year coming out of Philadelphia High School 88 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, like the highlight, it never ends. They just 89 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: like it's over two hundred plays, John, and it's every 90 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: you talked about the past rush moves. But when he 91 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: came there, he wanted to be an off the ball 92 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: inside linebacker, and James Fotdham he goes, we really want 93 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: you on the edge. Were really gonna be a better 94 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: player of the edge, but they placated him, and he 95 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: played off the ball inside linebacker. And there's just so 96 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: many plays in pass coverage blitzing, chasing eyes down. But 97 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: then when he came off the edge last year, you 98 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: saw just these instincts to beat guys. His ability to 99 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,559 Speaker 2: beat guys at the point in the run game uses quickness. 100 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: I diagnosed plays very very quickly, and so you know, 101 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: James told me his whole history of in ball, you know, 102 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: linebacker to edge, all that stuff. But he is his 103 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: ability just to win at the wherever it is off 104 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: the ball, at the point of attack, chasing things down. 105 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: Good luck trying to cut him off on the backside, 106 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: you know. So I just think he's got tremendous versatility 107 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: and at the end of the day, he's gonna fill up. 108 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: He's gonna fill up the statue. Yeah. 109 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: One thing I talked to Joe Shane about. You know, 110 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: he only has been on the edge for one year. 111 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: I really think seeing him off ball baldi for two 112 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: years on tape actually helps the evaluation, right, because. 113 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: You see his instincts. 114 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: You see how he can play in space, and it's 115 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: not just all right, go after the quarterback. This guy 116 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: can see the game and react to what's going on 117 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: in front of him. 118 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: No, there's no doubt I think his vision for the 119 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: game and diagnosing plays before they actually happen. Whether it's 120 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: because he understands the formation, he knows the play, or 121 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: he just has this ability to go, Okay, the ball's 122 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: coming here, let me go get myself a position. It's 123 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: really kind of hard to describe without showing video of it, 124 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: because he does defeat plays before they begin, and only 125 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: guys that have been the league and have seen it 126 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: really understanding. You don't see the guys you see that. 127 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: Guys develop into that after they get to the NFL. 128 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: Max Crosby has that. There's guys certainly they defeat the play. 129 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: He seems to have developed that early on here at 130 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: Penn State. And maybe to your point, John, maybe a 131 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: lot of it was playing off the ball inside linebacker. 132 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 3: And then let's get to him on the edge here, Baldy. 133 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: And this is the point that I've been bringing up 134 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: to people. This kid's only been doing it for one 135 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: year as an edge player, and he was already the 136 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: best edge player, edge rusher at least pass rusher in 137 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: college football last year. And I was going through my 138 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: notes on him and it's I'm checking off, like all right, 139 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: ghost move, speed, the power, long arm, swipe, double swipe, 140 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: you know, dip and rip like he is every move 141 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: inside spin, every move you would want in his repertoire. 142 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: And he's been doing this for one year. I mean, 143 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: what's the I mean, he can still get better. 144 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: I mean it's scary. 145 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: I would I want to see him go up against 146 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: Andrew Thomas in practice. We'll see those matchups because it's 147 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna sharpen. Andrew is gonna make it and 148 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: it's gonna sharpen out do what what you're describing as 149 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: this array of moves that most guys, I'm nobody else 150 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: in this draft had his array of moves. Nobody, I 151 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: mean you could talk about all the guys that come 152 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: off the edge, nobody had his array. But what is 153 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: even more impressive is his counter move. Like if you 154 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: take this away, his feet don't stop. Okay, so you 155 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: defeated the you know the ghost and you were able 156 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: to stay in front of him. Well, they's gonna come 157 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: back and and uh, you know swim like he's he's 158 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: got there's a flow to his sets and so that's 159 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: kind of hard to develop. That usually takes time, but 160 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: it seems like he's pretty advanced to that right now. 161 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: And then the other thing, I like too Bowdie and 162 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: and you said you just has to talk to him. 163 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: He has like this intensity to him when you talk 164 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: to him, like he's a nice kid, but like he 165 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: always he has an edge about him, which I think 166 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: you kind of want from a defensive lineman like that 167 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: dude is going to bring it on the field every 168 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: Sunday and he has a nasty streak. 169 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: And I like that. 170 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: No, No, he plays defense the right way. He's got 171 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: some violence to his game. Like even like I'll tell you, like, 172 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how much this means John, but like 173 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: you know, I told him he wanted to talk to 174 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: him interview me, and he goes, I'll do whatever you want, Baldi, 175 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: but I want to make sure all my guys are 176 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: done working out, Like I want to support him. He's 177 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: got to stop watch he's time in his linebackers he's 178 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: time at his defensive backs, like he's in every drill. 179 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: He's there chearing his guys on. And I don't think 180 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: he was doing it for show. I think that's who 181 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: he is, Like he understands that defense is about a 182 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: collective effort and he was supporting his guys here. That 183 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: was pretty impressive just to watch and see him do 184 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: that all right. 185 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: Now, the fun thing for me, Baldy is figuring out 186 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: how to use all three of these guys. Now, I 187 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: think fans overrate this your third edge rusher, just from 188 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: the fact that Burns in Thibodeaux are just playing seventy 189 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: five percent of the snaps. He's gonna be on the 190 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: field half the time. Just somemer for those guys. But 191 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: when they're on the field at the same time in 192 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: passer our situations, how do you think the best way 193 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: is to use these guys? Is it using Carter as 194 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: like that joker rusher or he's standing up over a guard. 195 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: How do you think you utilize Burns, Thibodeau and Abdul 196 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: Carter all at the same time on passing dens Well. 197 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: We saw even on the video I sent you John, 198 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: you know he was used as a spy in certain games, 199 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: that's true. And you know, if you think about the 200 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: games that you have against Jalen Hurts and Jayden Tip. 201 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: You know, Jayden Daniels right now in this division, like 202 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: it's not a bad thing to have a guy and 203 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: you can only use a guy that as a spy 204 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: that's as fast or faster than the quarterbacks you're chasing. 205 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: And it looks like he's got that level of speed 206 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: where if Jalen Hurts takes off like he's prone to do, 207 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: and we watch him, you know, in this Conference tour 208 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: for six years in a row. Now in this division, 209 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: and now what we saw Jayden Daniels do, like it 210 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: might inhibit some of those guys from leaving a pocket. 211 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 2: So you can always be that add on rusher from 212 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: that role. So that's one role. But you know, all 213 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: these guys want to run twist stunts, so there's a 214 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: you know, you can overload one side, twist back to 215 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 2: the other side. You get to pass rush situations. I 216 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: think just the way you know, the NASCAR package was 217 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: popular back in the day with spags and some of 218 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: the guys that we've seen win championships. I think there's 219 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: packages depending on down distance, who you're playing, who the 220 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: quarterback is, what they like to do, where there's some 221 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: vial versatility to how you deploy these guys on the field, 222 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: especially in past rush downs. 223 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 3: The Johnsttal Podcast is brought you by sind sid's Official 224 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: Bank of the Giants from Game They celebrations here everyday 225 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 3: financial needs big move Fans can get the most out 226 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: of every moment with Citizens. 227 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Learn more at citizensbank dot com slash Giants huddle up, 228 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: get in here. 229 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: If you're lined up here, you gotta go over the 230 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: middle with at the score great. 231 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: How do we make that happen? 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And just this combination 242 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: of burst size and length is just not something you 243 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 3: often get out of a three technique that's going to 244 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: be there at you know, pick sixty five. 245 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: He caught my eye right away at the Senior Bowl 246 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: with his just his length, because he's six', four he's you, 247 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: know he's three zero. Five he's a big he's a big, 248 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: man and he does have twitch to. Him he does. 249 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: Explode you see it in the run game of the pass. 250 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: GAME i think right now he's kind of a power, 251 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: rusher which is what most defensive tackles in college. Are 252 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: he's played up you, know he's played the. Piano he's 253 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: played up and down the defensive. Line he's got some 254 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: versatility to. Him but his length is. Impressive his. Movement 255 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: he ran under a five flat forty that night at 256 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: The Senior. Bowl when all those defensive linemen, Ran you're, like, 257 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 2: oh this guy, runs you, know a four to. Nine 258 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: this guy runs like they. Were it was an impressive athletic, 259 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: group and then it showed itself in a lot of 260 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: the drills at The Senior. Bowl SO i thought it 261 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 2: was a deep, class AND i thought he was at 262 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: the bottom of the first, round but certainly at the 263 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: top of the second. Round first him to be there 264 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 2: at sixty, FIVE i thought was a luxury. 265 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: Pick Almost, yeah AND i don't think they had like 266 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: it wasn't there were targeting a defensive tackle There. BOWL 267 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: i think he was just so high on their board 268 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: that they couldn't pass on. Them does the fact that 269 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: he's inn turn twenty five this summer bother you at? 270 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: All not. 271 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: REALLY i, mean if you GET i mean everybody once 272 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: you know that guy to developed and get to a 273 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: second contract at twenty. Five but, nowadays you, know we're 274 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 2: seeing a lot. More we used to see just twenty 275 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: one year old kids in the, draft but now with the, 276 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 2: pandemic with you, know everybody transferring and changing, colleges we're 277 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: seeing a lot of twenty two to twenty three year old. 278 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: Rookies so it's not uncommon anymore to see guys twenty 279 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: four to twenty five years. Old it doesn't bother. Me 280 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: he's a young. Body he's got a lot of football in. 281 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: Him some guys can play ten, years no. Problem some guys. 282 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 2: Burnout you never can predict that when they enter the. 283 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: LEAGUE i think he's got a real, good you, know 284 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: four years stretching him right now that you can concentrate. 285 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: On, yeah and then he'll hit a second contract at 286 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: age twenty. Eight twenty, nine AND i think YOU'LL i 287 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: think that you're fine with, that and then that's not 288 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: gonna be an. 289 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: Issue all. 290 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: Right and by the, way you can find all Of 291 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: baldie breakdowns videos are gonna be rolling them out slowly, 292 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: here but just check Out giants YouTube, Channel giants Dot, 293 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: Com giants. App they'll be up. There we get checked 294 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: out his breakdowns of The giants rookie. Class all, right 295 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: let's go To Jackson dart, Here baldie AND i think 296 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: you know this is Where giant fans get really excited 297 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: because they, think oh, man we're trying to find a 298 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: quarterback Since eli. Left it didn't work out With, daniel what's? 299 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: Next just give me your overall thumbnail On Jackson dart 300 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: in terms of what he brings to the field here 301 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: for The giants in their trade. 302 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: Up, WELL i like a guy who's played a lot of. 303 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: Games you, know so he started forty one games AT, 304 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: usc three AT, usc thirty eight At. MISSISSIPPI i like 305 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: guy who's played a lot of, football and he's played 306 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: at he's had good. Coaches you, know you look At Lincoln, 307 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: Riley you're looking At Lane. Kiffy he's played for good 308 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: coaches with really good philosophies about how they. Attack he's 309 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: played a lot of big. Games Beat georgia this, year 310 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: so you watch that without and he shows, armstrength, touch athletic. 311 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: ABILITY i mean you watch him not so much this, 312 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: year but in twenty twenty three At Ole miss When 313 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: Quinn Shawn jenkins was, There, like they ran him a, 314 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: lot like the Way Daniel jones ran a. Lot they 315 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: ran him On reid, options, scrambled you name. It SO 316 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 2: i think he's got versatility in that you know he's. 317 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: Not he can take, off he can extend, plays he's 318 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: got a good, arm he's got a good size to. 319 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: Him AND i don't know exactly how you can always predict. 320 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: THESE i, Mean Joe burrow seemed pretty easy to, predict 321 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: but very few guys are very easy to. Predict like 322 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: this is A day One Pro, bowl Perennial Pro bowl. 323 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: PLAYER i, Mean baltimore couldn't have said that About Lamar 324 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: jackson and look at. Him it's just you couldn't. 325 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: Said, that just real. Quick they Drafted Hayden hurst before 326 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: they Drafted Lamar. 327 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: Jackson, yes so everybody wants to know who these guys. 328 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: Are we're not gonna Know john honestly until he. Plays 329 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: it's just the way it. Is we didn't. KNOW i, 330 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: mean you, Know Kyle shanahan came out years later and, said, 331 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: WELL i kind of Knew Brock purdy was going to 332 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: be our, guy but they had just made the move 333 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: For Trey lance and waited his, turn and he kind 334 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: of but they didn't know until he went out there 335 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: and started. Playing and so you might kind of know 336 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: even during you, know the mini camps and the and the, 337 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: preseason you might kind of. Know but we're not going 338 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: to know how he handles THE nfl because it's so 339 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: different in. College but he has all the tools that 340 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: you're looking, for you, know to make, them you, know 341 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: to make him that. Pick BUT i just think when 342 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: you trade back into the first, round you make him 343 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: the second. Quarterback he's the twenty fifth player taking you. 344 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: CAN'T i don't think you could just put him in 345 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: bubble wrap and just sit him. LIKE i don't know 346 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: what the plan. Is i'm NOT i don't know That 347 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: brian And John joe know yet. Exactly but fans want 348 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: to see him play, though because there's a lot to 349 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: like about him coming out Of Old Miss. 350 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: YEAH i, MEAN i think how he, develops obviously and 351 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: how the team performs will be a big driving force 352 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: in terms of how quickly he gets on the. Field 353 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: AND i Think jackson will guide a lot of. That and, 354 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: LOOK i think you hit. It and fans are tired 355 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: of hearing me say, this but they say it all the. 356 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: Time evaluating quarterbacks from college to the pros is the 357 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: hardest thing to do in pretty much all of. Sports 358 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 3: and you, know you watch the offenses in, college And 359 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: i'm rich fans to go back watch the three INTERVIEWS 360 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: i did with FORMER nfl. Quarterbacks we Did Chase, daniel Dan, 361 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: orlovski And Kurt, warner and they talked about even for 362 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: a Quarterback baldy to be able to predict watching What 363 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: jackson nor did at all miss which is so much 364 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: different than what he's going to be asked to do 365 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: in the, pros it's almost. Impossible so one of the 366 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: things you watch for when you watch a quarterback on 367 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: tape in college that are the most predictive for you 368 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: in terms of whether or not they're going to succeed 369 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: at the pro, level. 370 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: WELL i want to see. HIM i, mean it's very 371 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: difficult to even find play action Passes john not. 372 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: From under, center only an occasional. 373 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: Play action where they turn their back in a. Shotgun 374 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: but it's very very. Rare so you know, what what you, 375 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: know do they do they have real play action passes 376 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: off the run? Game you know in THE nfl every 377 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: run has a play action pass basically off the. Run, 378 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: well that doesn't. Happen SO i try to eliminate all 379 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: the bubble screens and all the quick games and all 380 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: the stuff that's just. Completion and THEN i on the intermediate, 381 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: throws the layered throws that you got to make in 382 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: THE nfl with big linebackers dropping into the hook curl 383 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: and all those zones that you got to throw. Over 384 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: but in front of the defensive, backs can you make 385 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: some layered? Throws do you have touch on the deep? 386 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: Ball does the ball stay in? Bounds does it give 387 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: you receiver a chance in a fifty to? Fifty SO 388 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: i kind of concentrate on a lot of those, throws 389 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: and then when things do break down up, front what 390 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 2: do you do when things break down up? Front do you? 391 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 2: Panic can you? Extend can you? Elude can you keep 392 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: your eyes down the field so you know you might 393 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: have fifteen hundred throws to, evaluate a fifteen hundred attempt 394 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: to passes to, EVALUATE i kind of narrow it down 395 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: to about one, hundred AND i try to see as 396 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: many things that actually transfer to the pro game AS 397 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: i possibly. 398 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: Can you, know you mentioned his arm strength is good. 399 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: Enough it's not a, lead it's Not Josh, allen but 400 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: ball Do you talked about touch AND i think what 401 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: impressed me the most about dark tape was the accuracy 402 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: and touch on those intermediate. Throws there are a lot 403 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 3: of throws where he's getting right over the line back 404 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 3: to a receiver or tight end going to kind of 405 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: down the. SEAM i, mean one of the concepts they 406 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: are on all the time is that he's reading the corner. 407 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: Right if he, drops he throws it to the. 408 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: Flat if he comes up to the flat, receiver he's 409 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 3: throwing the deep over or like the little out on the. 410 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: Flat AND i think he showed some good touch getting 411 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 3: it over that cornerback into that second level between the 412 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: corner and. Safety SO i think there are a lot 413 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 3: of those throws on. Tape now can he get to 414 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: that throw in THE nfl when you have to do 415 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: more reading to get? 416 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: There is not as easy as in. 417 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: College BUT i did THINK i thought some of that 418 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 3: touch stuff on the second level was some of the 419 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: better stuff THAT i saw on the tape that AND. 420 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: I think he GIVES i think he throws a real 421 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: catchable ball. Yep and THEN i think he does throw 422 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: with anticipation where the receiver's going to. Be you See 423 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: Trey harrison watchin some of these guys that he's been thrown, 424 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: to you, know catch and run like on the. Move 425 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: so that's an accuracy. Thing the other thing is he does. 426 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: Process they know college quarterback does a lot of. It 427 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: it's kind of point and shoot. Yep it's just the 428 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,239 Speaker 2: way college football, is especially if you're in any kind 429 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: of an air raid. System so but you do see 430 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: him go through. Progression so rarely does he ever get 431 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: to number, three but he does go one, two which 432 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: is more than a lot of these guys. Do SO 433 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: i do think that there is some of that that 434 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: he has. Done how much more can he go where 435 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: it's one two check down like he can he get 436 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: to that and reset his feet so that it's an 437 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: actor throw and he does look like his footworks kind 438 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: of marries his. 439 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: Progressions and Then, FINALLY i just think his will and 440 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 3: you talk about how what he does under, pressure, RIGHT 441 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: i think he's more of a runner than a. Thrower 442 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: under pressure now he has you, know guys in his, 443 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: face he will unleash the, ball take, it hit'll complete. 444 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 3: It BUT i think once he starts to, MOVE i 445 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: think he's more apt to run than. 446 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Throw AND i think he's he's really good at. 447 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 3: It AND i think WHAT i like ball the unlike 448 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: a couple of the other quarterbacks in the, class when pressure, 449 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: comes he steps up in the pocket and through the. 450 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: Pocket he's not going back and around WHERE i, MEAN 451 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: i barely. 452 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: Remember and he throws on tape. 453 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: Ball the where he breaks the pocket runs outside the, 454 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: pocket and like as he's going out of, bounds he's 455 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 3: trying to complete a. Pass if he's throwing, it he's 456 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: stepping up in the pocket and either then taking off 457 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: and running and getting, yards or he's throwing it while 458 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: he's stepping up in the, pocket WHICH i think for 459 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: a quarterback there's a much better chance to have his 460 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: success doing that than the running back and out and 461 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 3: trying to complete something while you're sprinted towards the sideline well. 462 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: To your point you see very few frenetic plays, yep 463 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 2: where he's what you're describing is that where he just 464 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: plays too wild and too Like caleb was guilty of, 465 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: That Zach wilson certainly guilty of that with The, Jets 466 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: like he doesn't play that. Style and SO i think 467 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: that standpoint when you're trying to extend, plays keep your 468 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: eyes down the. Field when AM i? Runner when DO 469 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 2: i be a point? Guard when DO i? Throw like 470 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: you just don't see the crazy bins and twirls in the. 471 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: POCKET i do feel like he's got a pretty good. 472 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: Feel AND i don't, know in talking to guys From 473 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: Tom brady or, WHATEVER i don't know that you can 474 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: teach pocket awareness that. 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Giants all, right let's jump 481 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: to the day three pecks, Here, Baldy let's start With Marcus. 482 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: Bow you're rocking Your Duke many weather Ol mastermind shirt. 483 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 3: There and WHAT i jumped out to me About bow 484 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: WHEN i saw him at The Senior bowl is how 485 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: good his feet. 486 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: ARE i, mean he's just a really good. Athlete. NOW 487 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: a lot of the TIMES i thought he would get. 488 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: Overpowered he maybe us his hands quite well off things like, 489 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 3: That but, man his feet are. Great that's something you 490 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 3: cannot teach when you watch, Him, baldy do you see 491 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: him because of those? Feet do you think he can 492 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 3: stay out at? Tackle that's what the giants say they're 493 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: going to start. Him do you see him more of 494 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 3: like of a zone ski, guard maybe even as a, 495 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: center as a center you can pull and do a 496 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: lot of things. With where do you see him? Landing 497 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 3: given how great his feet? 498 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: Are you, know he looked good at right tackle to, 499 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: Me and SO i MEAN i probably just leave him 500 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: there right, Now BUT i think there was real because 501 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: of the way that he moves and because of his, 502 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: feet you could keep him. There BUT i also same 503 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: thing you just. SAID i think he can play guard for. 504 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: Sure it starts with his, feet but, everybody all these 505 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 2: kids need to get stronger and know how to use their. 506 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 2: Length and there's you, know he doesn't have the longest 507 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: arms which is, Okay BUT i feel like there's a 508 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: real foundation to his ability that can be. Developed, LIKE 509 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: i feel like he's a real developmental. Player if he 510 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: becomes AN nfl starter this, year next, year it won't surprise. 511 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: Me it just. Won't like he he's got the type 512 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: of athletic ability that everybody needs upfront because of the perimeter, 513 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: game getting to the second, level because the athletes you're 514 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: going up. AGAINST i feel like he can compete, athletically you, 515 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: know and then you, know he's played a lot of 516 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: football there, Produced SO i feel like he's a real. 517 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: That like they took him in the fifth, ROUND i 518 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: thought he was an earlier pick than. That, HONESTLY i 519 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 2: thought he was at least a fourth round. Pick but 520 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: that's just. Whatever he's taking his, Fine BUT i feel 521 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: like there's he's a guy that you we're going to 522 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: hear about he's going to play football for The giants. 523 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: Before we jump to the next. Guyball he is someone 524 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: that loves trench. 525 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: Play what are some of the things in terms of 526 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: his hand usage and things like, that his anchor besides 527 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: just getting, stronger that you think he needs to work 528 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 3: on to develop into that starting type of. 529 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: Player, WELL i think the first thing is really developing 530 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 2: a consistent set where you're off the, ball like these 531 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: guys are getting jumps now on, Defense like you've got 532 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: to be consistently off the ball if you're late off 533 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: the ball AGAINST. Tj watt or some of these guys 534 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: that you have to go against and right, tackle like 535 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 2: you're you're going to be in a you're gonna lose 536 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: all of your. Fundamentals you're gonna turn your, shoulders you're 537 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 2: gonna open the gates like it's just gonna be you, 538 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: know there's gonna be pressure on your. Quarterback and SO 539 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: i think that's the first thing is to be consistent 540 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: with your, set and that a lot of that has 541 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: to do with working with your. CENTER a lot of 542 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: these are silent, counts a lot of the you know 543 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: you're on the road, Whatever so really working with your 544 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 2: center to understand when he's. Snapping that's also working with 545 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: the right guard if he's tapping your centers in a 546 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: silent count. Situation. Whatever it is like getting consistent with 547 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: your set and then having a change up set so 548 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: that they can't get a beat on, you whether it's 549 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: a short set like you have your be consistent with 550 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: your set where you're hitting the same mark all the 551 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: time to get ready for your contact. Point but then 552 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: have your change up, ready whether it's, short whether it's, 553 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: up play action pass and you can jump jump your 554 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: guy inside out and you can change up with, him 555 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: so he can't get a consistent read on. You if 556 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: you want to know how to manage two minutes of 557 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: crunch time, Football i'm your. Man but if you're wondering 558 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: about a long term financial, plan you should talk To. 559 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: Citizens, HEY i can also talk long. 560 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: Care i'd like to learn about An mollia. 561 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: Routine, YES i KNEW i could help make sense of 562 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: your money With. Citizens all, right let's go To Cam. 563 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: Scatable here The giants fourth round. PICK i wanted to 564 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: stay in the. Trench is? There first? Man he's so much. Fun. 565 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 3: Bold we talked about him before the. DRAFT i thought 566 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: he was a second round. PLAYER i don't care that 567 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 3: he rans runs a four to six. Five his ability 568 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: to break, tackles AND i think his short area of 569 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: quickness is actually. Underrated he makes people missing it in short. 570 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: Areas his nice job with that he catches the. Football 571 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: you know he is An he can do everything except 572 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 3: he's an every down level. BACK i think he's gonna 573 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: be a great continent to Cut Tyrone. 574 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: TRUMP i, MEAN i don't know what Else Arizona state 575 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: had like it was scatterbou. LIKE i mean literally are 576 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: playing in the oversea Of texas in this playoff, game 577 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: and he's the best player on the. Field he's the best. 578 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 2: Player he caught one hundred yards of, passes had the big, 579 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: runs broke. TACKLES i, mean this Shoulday. Baron it was 580 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: all these you know, guys you, know take at the 581 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: top of the, draft and there he, is like running 582 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: through arm tackles and running guys over and making guys, 583 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: miss making good tacklers miss at every, level bouncing it 584 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: to the, outside which maybe he doesn't have the speed 585 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: to do in this, league but speed is at that 586 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: position is a either you can play the position or you. 587 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: Can't and so he he his style of running where 588 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: he can just run guys. Over he's just difficult to. 589 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: Tackle his balance is crazy, good his hands are, great 590 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 2: and he looks like he is just a fiery, competitor 591 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: and he knows how to set up. Blocks you, know 592 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 2: he's not too fast as a. Hole he allows things 593 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: to develop in front of, him but when he sees, 594 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: it he's got great vision when he sees. 595 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: It i'm with, you AND i wonder how they're going 596 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 3: to use him And tracy and Even Devin singletary to 597 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: an extent, together BECAUSE i really think since all three 598 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 3: guys are pretty versati, BALDY i think you can just 599 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: give him a. Series, right all, right well you have 600 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: this series go out, there this series as. YOURS i 601 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 3: don't think this is a dal, well all, right, Well 602 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: scatibow will be able to be the short yardage, guy 603 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: he'll be the pass, protection the receiver. 604 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: Guy i'm, curious what do you? 605 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 3: Think how do you think they can best utilize two 606 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: pretty dark good talents that ed running back In tracy And. 607 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: Scattabuoy, WELL i, Mean tracy was the surprise last year 608 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: of how good he, played considering he was a wide 609 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: receiver converted a running, Back LIKE i gotta believe like 610 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: he's still developing in that. Position but, everybody unless you're you, 611 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: Know saquan one of these you, Know Derek, henry unless 612 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: you're one of these, GUYS i, mean everybody's doing it by. 613 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: Committee and so then's the question Of, okay who's the, 614 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: Healthiest who's who gets a? Feel you can start it 615 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: off a rotating, series but who gets, hot because that's 616 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 2: because if somebody gets hot and gets a, feel and 617 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: it's not one guy is better than the. Other, john 618 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: just as a guy that played with a lot of 619 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 2: different running, backs some guys just have a game day 620 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: feel about how to make the mic linebacker, miss how 621 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: to set him, up how to run a counter tray 622 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: play where you're pulling the backside guard and, tackle and 623 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: that play can hit. Anywhere it can hit, outside, inside 624 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: it can hit, backside and sometimes the back just has 625 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: that feel with. You and so sometimes you can, say, 626 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: well he had a great week of, practice all, right, 627 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: great maybe that gets him the start that week if 628 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 2: they do it like. That but game day is just a, 629 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: feel and you, know some guys get two yards on 630 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 2: that countertrain and some guys get. Nine all, Right you're 631 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: probably gonna stay with that countertrait because running plays tend 632 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: to be repeated a, lot sometimes because they, work and 633 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: sometimes because they should have. Worked and so how you're, 634 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: SO i feel like they've got a real back, Here 635 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: LIKE i think this guy is going to hit the 636 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: ground RUNNING i don't know WHAT i. Mean Devin singletary 637 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: has always been a great, contact balanced. Guy it can 638 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: always get your four yards and carries a great, receiver great. 639 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: Teammate SO i think it's a luxury at this point right. 640 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: Now LIKE i feel, like depending on how the guys 641 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: are handling things up, front you could play three, backs 642 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: you can dress three. Backs And i'm with. YOU i 643 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: don't think one guy has the advantage because he's a great, 644 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: protector or he's a great, receiver he's a third down. 645 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: BACK i don't know that there's a locked in roll 646 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: to of these guys. 647 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: Yet i'm with. 648 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: You all. 649 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: Right let's jump To Thomas, fadoni AND i Think i'm 650 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 3: the captain of The Thomas vidoni fan club over. 651 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: HERE i watched. 652 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 3: HIM i think he was one of the last ten 653 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 3: PLAYERS i watched leading up to the, draft AND i 654 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: honestly To, Paul i'll be, HONEST i had a fourth 655 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 3: round grade on. 656 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: Him he comes from a pro offense In. 657 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 3: Nebraska he was asked to block despite the fact he 658 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: had TWO acl. 659 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Surgeries that dude can. Move he creates. 660 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: SEPARATION i talked to his tight ends, coach who was 661 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 3: a former offensive coordinator with that rule at The, Panthers he's, like, 662 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: yeah we run AN nfl. Offense he's gonna be ready 663 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: to go when he walks in the. DOOR i was 664 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: really impressed with WHAT i saw from. Him even before 665 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: The giants picked. 666 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: Him he was the highest rated tight end in a 667 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: country come out of high. School, OKAY i mean it's 668 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: JUST i mean that's all the guys that he came. 669 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: Out and then he was the highest recruited player At 670 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: nebraska since two thousand and. Eight AND i Know matt 671 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: rule really. Well he covers his tight. ENDS i thought 672 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: he was a really good. Blocker and the way that he, 673 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: Runs LIKE i, know the injuries are there and that's you, 674 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: know taking you, know years away from games away from, 675 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: him but he runs really. Well there's just something about 676 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: the way that he plays the game. 677 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: And he changes direction by the, way it's not just 678 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: winning straight launch. Change and he's thirty four inch. Arms 679 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: the dude's, long too. 680 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: Long he's, Long, LIKE i think this could be a 681 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: real Fine LIKE i remember When Theo johnsky got. TAKEN 682 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: i don't remember the year or what brown he was, 683 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: taking BUT i think, fifth, fifth fifth. Round BUT i 684 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: just feel Like fordni is a guy that's gonna fit. 685 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: In like you, know some of these, guys we pay 686 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: attention to what round or what number, Whatever LIKE i 687 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: just don't think you should pay attention To let's just 688 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: go watch him. Play AND i watched him. BLOCK i 689 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: seen some tight ends that should never be at the 690 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: point of, attack LIKE i. DON'T i think this guy 691 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: is gonna embrace. Guy always tell tight end coaches like 692 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: your tight end's got to at least get a stalemate 693 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: at the point of. Attack these defensive ends are playing 694 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: inside off you and seven, techniques and you gotta at 695 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: least get. STALEMATE i feel like this guy is going 696 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: to get, stronger AND i feel like there's something there 697 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: where he's gonna be more than an adequate blacker plus 698 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: a really good receiver and the way that he can 699 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: run his. ROUTES i think he's really. 700 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 1: Talented, Baldy i'm with. 701 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: You we hadn't talked about him AND i then watched 702 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: your breakdown of for me, yet but we're completely on 703 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: the same. 704 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: Page i'm with, you all. 705 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: Right, Finally corey Black book seventh, round you can find 706 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: a corner that's six, foot two hundred pounds and runs 707 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: a four to, three you take them and you hope 708 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: you can figure it, out, RIGHT i, mean that's what you. 709 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: Do you, know in the seventh, round you know you're 710 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,239 Speaker 2: picking down there at the bottom of the. Draft give 711 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: me somebody do some, traits you. Know and so he's 712 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: got a little bit of ball. Skill he's had some. 713 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 2: Interceptions but you run four to three out, there like 714 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: nobody's gonna really run by. You you, know you can 715 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: start with. That you keep everything in front of. You 716 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: you want to, run go routes with you, know guys 717 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: in training. Camp you're gonna see a guy that can 718 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: run with, you you. Know so that's that's. Good and 719 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: then you, know how quickly does you? Know how wells he? 720 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: Tackle how wells he learned to? Scheme you, know what 721 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: kind of a you know student is? He how committed it, 722 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: is like all those things we'll find. Out but he 723 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: played a major college program running for three with good. 724 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: Size to, me that's why you draft a guy like. 725 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: That all. 726 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: Right final, question now that you kind of see where 727 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: the giants are at Here baldy looking at it at the, 728 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: roster the guys that have come in and where they're. 729 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: At what are some of the key things that you 730 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: think need to happen this offseason in terms of, development 731 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: guys getting ready to go that you think could make 732 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: a big difference for how they perform this. 733 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: Year, WELL i, mean we got a new. Quarterback we 734 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: got a new quarterback, now so you, know how quickly 735 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: can does he understand the, offense call the, offense get 736 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: in tune with you, know everybody on that side of the. Ball, 737 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: DEFENSIVELY i feel like a lot of the question marks 738 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: they had from a year ago where they had major 739 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: holes going into the they have. MAJORS i feel like 740 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: everything's been. Filled they should have a very good defensive. 741 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: Front you want to start building, defense build your, front 742 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 2: put your resources in your defensive. LINE i feel like 743 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: the trenches for this team right now have improved drastically 744 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: from a year. Ago now's the question of how quickly 745 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: can your quarterback assimilate whether it's you, know whether It's Russell, 746 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: jamis you, know whether It's jackson right now at this, 747 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: point how quickly can they, assimilate you, know to establish the, 748 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: run stay on the field on third, downs get you 749 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: know there was where you can stay on the field 750 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: and you can stay and get into your game plan 751 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: both sides of the, ball get off the field on third, 752 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: down extend plays on third down on, offense and become 753 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: a more competitive. 754 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: Team, Baldi we're gonna take a little. Break we look 755 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: forward to having you up here for your annual training. 756 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: Camp visit whenever that happens In july And, august you 757 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: always come. Up it was always great seeing. You enjoy 758 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: the rest of your spring and. Summer i'm sure you'll 759 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: be heading out to some OTAs and some mini. 760 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: Camps i'll be out, There, john you'll see. 761 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: Me, OH i can't wait to see. 762 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: It we'll chat, Then Brian balding or anything you want 763 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 3: to let the folks know about the uh you, Know i'm. 764 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 2: Just Uh baldy's breakdowns never, stop you, Know i'll keep 765 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 2: putting stuff out. There watch watch the BREAKDOWNS i sent, You. John, 766 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah and let's JUST i, mean it's just time of 767 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: the year to get excited and start counting down the 768 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: days pretty soon until we start reporting the training. Camp 769 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: it's gonna be. 770 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: Good, yeah, Absolutely and, Folks i'm the only ONE i 771 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 3: did not watch The Fidonian black. Ones the other ones 772 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: are all. Great make sure you go check them. Out 773 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 3: they'll be coming up again on all The giants. Platforms 774 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 3: That's Brian baldinger on THE Gihns Total, podcast brought to 775 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: you by Uh, citizens the official bank of The. Giants 776 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: For Brian, Baldinger I'm John schmelch from The Hackensack Marine 777 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: Hills podcast. 778 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: Studio keep getting. Better we'll see you next. Time, everybody