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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Clay

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Speaker 1: you are. Okay, Buck, it s as we went to break,

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Speaker 1: there's some really good news. And this is where we

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Speaker 1: can quote Barack Obama and he's one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 1: Elections have consequences, and one of the consequences of Republicans

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Speaker 1: winning the House is that the Department of Defense has

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Speaker 1: ended their COVID vaccine mandate. This is a big deal. Okay.

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Speaker 1: We need to celebrate our wins when we get them.

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Speaker 1: No longer requiring anyone to get the COVID shot in

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Speaker 1: order to serve for our country is the right decision,

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Speaker 1: and it would not have happened if we had not

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Speaker 1: won the House. That is a direct intangible result for

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Speaker 1: people out there who say, Okay, where are the wins.

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Speaker 1: This is a win because Republicans took back the House.

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Speaker 1: If Democrats had held onto the house, Buck, this never happens.

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Speaker 1: I think Kevin McCarthy and all of his allies, particularly

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, who I think is going to do a

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Speaker 1: incredible job as the chair of the Judiciary Committee and

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Speaker 1: also looking into the FBI and conducting all these investigations.

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Speaker 1: This is a win that happened as a result of

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two mid terms. Now, the next step

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Speaker 1: needs to be rehiring and there are thousands of them,

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Speaker 1: anyone who lost his or her job in the military

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Speaker 1: because they refuse to get the COVID shot. That's the

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Speaker 1: next step. And then, oh, by the way, I think

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Speaker 1: we need to and I've been making this argument for

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Speaker 1: a while, end Feiser and madernas COVID vaccine immunity and

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Speaker 1: allow either plaintiffs lawyers to sue or force them to

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Speaker 1: return all the profits. Because the downside here, here's the negative.

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Speaker 1: This COVID SHOT's not working. And I'm reading we had

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Speaker 1: we have Alex Barrenson on yesterday or on Monday, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what day we had him on.

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Speaker 1: Encourage you to go listen to him yesterday. We had

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Speaker 1: him on in the third hour of the program, and

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Speaker 1: he's got a sub stack up right now that he

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Speaker 1: just wrote. And the headline is urgent. Seventeen percent of

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Speaker 1: teenagers had heart symptoms after their second visor jab. A

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Speaker 1: new peer reviewed paper shows. This is the headline that

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Speaker 1: Alex Berenson just wrote. This is out of Taiwan, and

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Speaker 1: the researchers conducted electro cardiograms, which measured heart rhythms on

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Speaker 1: nearly five thousand high schoolers in Taipei City, capital of Taiwan,

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Speaker 1: before and after their second visor shot. Most of the

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Speaker 1: students an over ninety percent, were mail and again, seventeen

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Speaker 1: percent of those students had heart symptoms, including serious heart

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Speaker 1: related issues. Again, this is in five thousand students, and

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Speaker 1: this has been published in the European Journal of Pediatrics.

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Speaker 1: And I want to tie this in with and I'm

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Speaker 1: not directly saying that this was the cause, okay, because

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Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, and I'm not sure why this

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Speaker 1: exactly happened. But as we said in the first hour,

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Speaker 1: it's an awful story. An Air Force cadet, an offensive

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Speaker 1: linemen on their football team, collapsed and died walking to

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Speaker 1: class on Monday. Certainly Jamar Hamlin a lot of attention

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Speaker 1: with what happened to him on the football field. In

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Speaker 1: your lives, in your communities, you may well be hearing

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Speaker 1: and or seeing of young people having issues. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: Air Force cadet Hunter Brown dies at twenty one years old.

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Speaker 1: The Air Force Academy, Naval Academy, and the US Military

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Speaker 1: Academy West Point, they all required the COVID shot in

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Speaker 1: order for kids to go to those schools. Because the

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Speaker 1: military required the COVID shot, many universities out there are

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Speaker 1: requiring the COVID shot still as this data continues to

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Speaker 1: come out, Buck, it is not anti science to be

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Speaker 1: asking why in the world are we still mandating the

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Speaker 1: COVID shot anywhere for young adults, teenagers, anyone who has

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Speaker 1: virtually zero percent chance of getting COVID given the circumstances.

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Speaker 1: And this is a real conversation that needs to be had,

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Speaker 1: and there may be. Again, I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: reacting constantly to anecdotes, which is why I retweeted and

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Speaker 1: incidents of heart related issues for young men in particular

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Speaker 1: this has to be talked about. So in totalitarian societies

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Speaker 1: Sovian Union North Korea got on the list, there is

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Speaker 1: response of the people. Right, I mean, the people at

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Speaker 1: allow for the people to see a crack in the wall. Right.

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Speaker 1: This is with COVID, I think very similar, a very

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Speaker 1: similar situation going on right now, the moment that they

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Speaker 1: say increasingly, yeah, the side effects are worse than we

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Speaker 1: said they were, and yeah, you didn't actually need to

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Speaker 1: get this if you were really in any age group.

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Speaker 1: But certainly if you weren't a senior and you know,

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Speaker 1: barring some exceptional circumstances, you don't have a functioning immune

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Speaker 1: was no reason. It's not even like, Remember, it's not

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Speaker 1: just they offered this shop. They mandated this shop in

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Speaker 1: so many different contexts. They made you get it. They

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Speaker 1: shut down your life. In New York City, every diversity

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Speaker 1: buck requires it. Still basically, Yeah, I just saw a

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Speaker 1: summer camp this summer. They're requiring it for summer camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is completely insane. But I do think that a

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Speaker 1: just like you know, the commissars in the Soviet Union.

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Speaker 1: If they admit that they were wrong on this, then

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Speaker 1: people will start to say, what else were you guys

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Speaker 1: wrong on? Right? If they admit fallibility all this issue

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Speaker 1: their whole game. Now, I think we're seeing this. Whether

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Speaker 1: having a higher percentage, Maybe it's only you know, alex

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Speaker 1: big number of people. Are there five percent? Are there

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Speaker 1: ten percent? More cardiac issues happening in otherwise healthy you know,

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Speaker 1: who didn't get vaccinated. Well, maybe they shouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: add up for them. Buck. They were saying that if

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Speaker 1: when unvaccinated people would die. Remember how the stories would

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Speaker 1: Remember how many people would say that, like we're locking

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Speaker 1: what's crazy about that, Buck, is those same people who

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Speaker 1: that older people and adults in general were in many

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Speaker 1: cases living their lives normally or at least exposing themselves

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Speaker 1: to all sorts of different people. But there was this bizarre,

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Speaker 1: if if I can this word, almost fetishization of children

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Speaker 1: as the dangerous midal vectors. So if someone did that,

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Speaker 1: if you had an elderly person who was still going

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Speaker 1: to their weekly bridge game or you know, going to

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Speaker 1: the supermarket and all these other stuff, but was particularly

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Speaker 1: afraid of their grandchildren, the evidence shows that that was woke. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, David, yeah, David yeah. No. I just want

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Speaker 1: to jump in because because the one thing that I

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Speaker 1: an argument that I've been making now for almost three years,

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Speaker 1: is that we never actually did a lockdown in this country.

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Speaker 1: That they're that a big portion of people were still

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Speaker 1: going to jobs, you know, the critical jobs that had

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Speaker 1: to be done, and people were still interacting overwhelmed. There

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Speaker 1: were very few people who for any length of time

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Speaker 1: truly separated themselves from the rest of humanity in a

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Speaker 1: way that would really protect them from getting the virus.

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Speaker 1: That you're one hundred percent correct. And I also would argue,

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Speaker 1: and this is a large part of the book I'm

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Speaker 1: working on, which focuses on American schools during the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: But the kind of I cast my net wider because

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Speaker 1: it's all connected, which is actually it was a very

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Speaker 1: classist based policies we had where the people if you're

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Speaker 1: a working class person, a cashier, a supermarket, an electrician

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Speaker 1: or a plumber who's going into people's homes, they weren't

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Speaker 1: able to just sit home and do their work on

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Speaker 1: a you know, chromebook in their home office and watch

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Speaker 1: Netflix and do whatever. They were still engaged in society.

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Speaker 1: So the policies that were advocated for and put in place,

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Speaker 1: you know, which to me I find ironic is that,

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Speaker 1: you know, liberals tend to be associated with having more

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Speaker 1: concern about the working class and lower income people, but

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Speaker 1: yet these policies very very specifically harmed those people. Are

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Speaker 1: put them in the greatest way of harm. While the

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Speaker 1: you know, quote laptop class was able to continue to

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Speaker 1: do their you know, white collar work from home and

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Speaker 1: they could isolate to whatever degree they felt like they

467
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Speaker 1: needed to based on their anxiety levels. While you know,

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Speaker 1: the electrician he was still going into people's homes. So

469
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Speaker 1: I think that's you know, I'm sure you obviously have

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Speaker 1: been aware of that as well. So it's it's just

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Speaker 1: like one more piece of this broader, you know, mosaic

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Speaker 1: of you know, of unintended consequences and sort of you know,

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Speaker 1: bad incentives with a lot of these policies. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: in particular, David, you could point to the poorest kids

475
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Speaker 1: among us also bore the greatest cost in terms of

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Speaker 1: remote schooling. Right, Like, the poorer you were, the more

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Speaker 1: likely you were to remain remote schooled for longer periods

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Speaker 1: of time. So the you know, while you're claiming to

479
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Speaker 1: care about equity, h we actually ended up with the

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Speaker 1: least equitable outcome imaginable when it comes to educational experience

481
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Speaker 1: throughout COVID as well, which I think is probably the

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Speaker 1: biggest sin of all the sins associated with our COVID response.

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Speaker 1: Last question for you, data you've been on with us

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Speaker 1: several times. You are not traditionally someone who would you

485
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Speaker 1: be on a show like this. Right, your magazine probably

486
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Speaker 1: does not regularly reach a lot of our listeners. I

487
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Speaker 1: think that's fair to say, Right, we're cross pollinating a

488
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Speaker 1: little bit here. What is the response inside of your

489
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Speaker 1: media ecosystem to what I would say are your inconvenient

490
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Speaker 1: truths in reporting on COVID, And what do you think

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Speaker 1: about the way, for instance, many people in media are

492
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Speaker 1: responding to what Elon Musk is releasing as information about

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Speaker 1: COVID censorship and certainly what we're seeing come out of

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration relating to Facebook or Instagram or any

495
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Speaker 1: of these other platforms. Are you surprised by the way

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Speaker 1: that that is being received and how has your work

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Speaker 1: been received. I'm not surprised at all, unfortunately by the way.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of the twitterfiles report and I

499
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Speaker 1: was you probably saw. I was one of the people

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Speaker 1: who was at Sorter headquarters in San Francisco, and I

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Speaker 1: released my own I sort of did the first big

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Speaker 1: sort of files reporting related to COVID and content moderation

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Speaker 1: on the platform. And I think Mike the thread the

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Speaker 1: last time I checked at more than sixty million views,

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Speaker 1: and to my knowledge, it was never covered by any

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Speaker 1: of the sort of you know, how do you think

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Speaker 1: that happens? By the way, like who was making that

508
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Speaker 1: calculated decision at the New York Times, at the Washington Post,

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Speaker 1: We're not going to cover this and treat it as

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Speaker 1: actual news. Yeah, I mean the New York Times and

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Speaker 1: you know CNN or wherever else is is made up

512
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Speaker 1: of people who are making individual decisions. I don't think

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Speaker 1: and you know, because I know people who work at

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Speaker 1: the Times and other places, I don't think it gets

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Speaker 1: to the point where there's some sort of like conspiratorial

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Speaker 1: meeting or something where they're like, oh, let's not cover this.

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Speaker 1: Although there may be conversations about it, I think it's

518
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Speaker 1: on a deeper level, it's just kind of baked in

519
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Speaker 1: where the individual people who becovering this, whether it's the

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Speaker 1: reporters or the editors who might assign something like this,

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Speaker 1: they all just already have dismissed it as the quote

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Speaker 1: unquote nothing burger. And it's like, I don't think it

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Speaker 1: even gets to the point where there's like an overt

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Speaker 1: sort of you know, directive to not cover this. I

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Speaker 1: think it's just kind of like already baked into the

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Speaker 1: viewpoint to nixt to my metaphors about how they perceive

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Speaker 1: what is so they're so biased they don't even recognize

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Speaker 1: there's a bias involved. They just think it's reality or objective. David,

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Speaker 1: great work on this Clanbuck dot com. Guys. The piece

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Speaker 1: from York Magazine is linked there. If you want to

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Speaker 1: go read it right now, we recommend you do. David,

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Speaker 1: excited to hear about your book. Please come back and

533
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: talk to us more about all this stuff. Okay, always

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Speaker 1: enjoy talking to you guys. Thanks for having me. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton, Welcome back to Clay and Buck Seed

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Speaker 1: Oils portion size sugar content. Clay and I, you know

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Speaker 1: we're both talking here. We're guys. As much as I

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Speaker 1: make fun of Clay for being the the the senior,

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Speaker 1: the elder of this show, we're just within a few

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Speaker 1: years of each other. Age wise. We're at that age

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Speaker 1: where your metabolism starts to slow down a little bit

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Speaker 1: and you gotta be pay a little more attention unless

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Speaker 1: you want to start really going with the uh you know,

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Speaker 1: the like the bigger flowing sort of the flowey shirt.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You can go flowy shirt,

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Speaker 1: and whether it's Hawaiian style or sort of more of

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Speaker 1: a of a of a poncho kind of vibe, or

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Speaker 1: just you know, the oversized standard western tucking shirt. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: you can go that route, right, um, start to become

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Speaker 1: a fan of robes or kimonos perhaps or else. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to change your wardrobe a bit because

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Speaker 1: if you gained a little, like some pounds around the middle.

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Speaker 1: And I was just texting a rather tweeting our our

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Speaker 1: friend Zubie who's been on the show before, who's kind

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Speaker 1: of a lifestyle fitness expert. He was great during COVID.

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Speaker 1: That's how he's another one of those guys like u

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Speaker 1: Clay that I came across first because he was a

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Speaker 1: Sayin individual during COVID. And you know, there are some

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Speaker 1: there are some culprits, I think, inde because remember we

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Speaker 1: were much less healthy, especially in the early days than

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Speaker 1: say Japan was, and it's because we have ten times

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Speaker 1: the obesi, right, that's the primary that was the real differential.

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Speaker 1: And you know, man, I've been able. I basically don't

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Speaker 1: really drink anymore. It's not a moral position. I just

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Speaker 1: I'm just cutting it down. I gotta get married, I

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Speaker 1: gotta you know, fit into my suit, right, you're drinking

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Speaker 1: once you get married for a few years. By the way,

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Speaker 1: am I gonna tell Laara you said that we're just

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Speaker 1: gonna let that she's not. She didn't hear that. That's

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Speaker 1: actually that's actually an intentional joke to see if my

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Speaker 1: wife is listening to the podcast THEE if I hear

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Speaker 1: about that one. Um, But I've been able. I'm not

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Speaker 1: somebody I gave up, whether I did or did not

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Speaker 1: imbibe any substances. I gave that all up after nine

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Speaker 1: to eleven to join the CIA. So I'm not like

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Speaker 1: a drugs guy. I haven't been a drugs guy of

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Speaker 1: any kind for many, many decades now, or many decades now.

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Speaker 1: M Sugar Clay, I don't know, man it is. I

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Speaker 1: think that sugar is the addiction that all of us,

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Speaker 1: not all of us, but like almost everybody has and

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Speaker 1: doesn't eat. Like I know, I have a caffeine thing.

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Speaker 1: But I can manage that and handle that. I need

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Speaker 1: caffeine in the morning, I needed a few times a day,

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Speaker 1: and I can live with that. But I think sugar

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Speaker 1: is the thing that we all just assume, Oh it's fine,

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Speaker 1: it's just a food. Sometimes you get sugar cravings, and

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Speaker 1: they're like other cravings and men if you start adding

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Speaker 1: up the caloric content of all the sugar we eat,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's a big issue. Well,

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Speaker 1: the only way you can lose weight, since it's after

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Speaker 1: the first of the year and everybody's got their New

609
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Speaker 1: Year's resolutions and a lot of them have to do

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Speaker 1: with getting in better shape, is eating less. Right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you and I both work out a decent amount exercise wise.

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Speaker 1: I think that's important, certainly cardiovascular health all that, but

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Speaker 1: if you actually want to lose weight, what I have

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Speaker 1: found is we were just talking about this off the air.

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Speaker 1: What you eat is like seventy five or eighty percent

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Speaker 1: of what you weigh, right, you could work there unless

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Speaker 1: you're like a pro athlete you're working out, you know,

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Speaker 1: like six hours a day or something. What you eat

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Speaker 1: is going to dictate what you weigh, and there's no

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Speaker 1: other way to disguise it. And the other thing is hard.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, you know. I I like throwing around

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Speaker 1: a barbell and being trying to do all the weight

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Speaker 1: stuff for the gym. You know, I would say I'm

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Speaker 1: becoming an advanced beginner in the gym and walking. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound sexy, but man, you gotta walk. Moving around

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Speaker 1: is really a really important part of it too. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to add walks everybody listening to this, If you're

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Speaker 1: not walking thirty forty minutes a day, I don't care

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Speaker 1: what shape you're in, it's good for you. That's what

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Speaker 1: everyone I know who's an incredible shape clay, because I

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Speaker 1: ask those people all the time. They're like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: are you walking? And I'm like, wow, really, why