1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Ye don't want to ask your question real good. Let's 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: just keep it real straight shot with no chasing. 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a little bit rough. I'm here for it. 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: Those who really believe in the American process, all of us. 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: Street shot, no chase with your girl, test some figure 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: out on the Black Effect Podcast Network. What's having everybody 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: test some figure straight shot, no chaser on the Black 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you are subscribed. 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: I know you're saying, wow, she say this every week, 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: but I gotta keep saying it every time because some 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, everybody may not tap in on a weekly basis, 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: So make sure that you subscribe, make sure that you follow. 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: As mentioned, a lot of people got unfollowed, so we 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: want to get those numbers back. I am joined with 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: the beautiful Jay Torell with me again just going through 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: this and again, Jay, thank you for being here then, 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: been just really rocking out with me the last I 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: guess four or five months now, think a little. I 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: appreciate having you because it's been so much that we've 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: had to filter through, you know, with election season and 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: so much information and trying to stay on top of everything. 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: So I just appreciate having you. You know as a 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: guest co host and also helping me, you know, filter 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: through this information and these stories. The news go so fast, change, 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: it changes so much, and as you know, you and 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: I are, we are in contact one hundred times a day, 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: you know, we're just information going back and forth and 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: back and forth. So we're a couple of weeks out, Jade. 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: I love campaign season, but I'm ready to wrap this up. 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, this is a campaign. This is a campaign 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: season like no other. 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 4: Usually I enjoy presidential you know, election cycles, but this 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: one has just been so drama filled, so unstable, and 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: I don't really like not knowing what's next. I mean 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 4: pretty much, you know, an elections, folks can kind of 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: predict what's happening, but from a day to day basis, 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: moment to moment, I don't know what's about that happened. 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: And I don't like that. You don't like that. 39 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: I enjoyed, you know, I like the surprise, you know, 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: I enjoyed the momentum, the energy, the from a comms person, 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: a strategist person, I learn a lot, you know, from elections. 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: But now it's just to the point, like everything has 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: been said that needs to be said. You know, folks 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: are already voting. I don't see, because it is such 45 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: a polarizing election. I believe either you are for Trump 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: or against Trump. A lot of people who will be 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: voting against Trump will by default vote for v. P. Harris. 48 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: She certainly has people that you know are voting for her. 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: But I just really believe this is a for or 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: against Trump, you know, type of election, and because of that, 51 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: it's very polarized. 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: It is. It is very you know, pick aside. 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: It's even worse than what it was in twenty sixteen 54 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: because now there's so much more for people to debate about, 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: you know, in twenty sixteen, you know, Hillary versus you know, Trump, 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton, A lot went on in the biggest beef 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 2: was with the progressives you know, and the Bernie Sanders 58 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 2: movement and not endorsing her and all of that type 59 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: of stuff. In twenty sixteen, and then twenty twenty that 60 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: election was you know, pretty simple, wasn't really drama field 61 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: as much. You know, we're dealing with created you know, 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: a massive early voting vote by mail campaign, so it 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: was you know, a contentious race. But this is different 64 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: because you know, again, thinking Joe Biden was gonna run 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: pulling him off now VPRs. This is something new to 66 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: everybody in politics because we haven't seen a ninety day race, 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: even though she's been a part of this administration, even 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: though she was running as VP. This is really unheard of. 69 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: And so I am excited from a calm standpoint and 70 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: operation standpoint to you know, what do we learn from this? 71 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: And can you really run a campaign mostly on digital 72 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: or not on ground? Can you really do a ninety 73 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: day campaign? You know what does all that look like? 74 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: So I'm excited. I'm just ready to get to it, 75 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: you know, because everything at this point, you know, with this, Oh, 76 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: maybe if she just reaches out more, maybe if she 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: just says this more. I just don't You're you're either 78 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: with her, you're not. You're either you want you were 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: comfortable with the Biden administration because not much is changing, 80 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: you know in that you know from her views, you 81 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: either want it or you don't. And so I just think, 82 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: now this is between now and the next two weeks. 83 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: This is just a matter of who's gonna make mistakes 84 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: and who's gonna fumble and what got your moments? The 85 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: fun stuff kind of you know, entertaining I guess, but 86 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: I'm just ready to get to it. 87 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: I'm ready to get to it. 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 4: But then also I'm present, I'm precedent to at least 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 4: three alleged assassination attempts or with calling assassination attempts. I've 90 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 4: never seen that happen before through an election cycle, especially 91 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: not a number like that. And then also on the left, 92 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 4: like the trends that happen right, cat ladies for Kamala, 93 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 4: white guys with Kamala, you know, just a lot of 94 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: different groups, you know, advocating and raising money in such 95 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 4: a short period of time, So you know, those were 96 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 4: trending as well. But for me, as someone who supports 97 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: you behind the scenes and someone who's constantly consuming information 98 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: and media, it has been I've had to work like 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: extra hard to filter through the information because AI, I've 100 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: never you know, AI is pretty new, and with artificial 101 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 4: intelligence and all of these news stories and the amount 102 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: of fake news that's out there has made my job 103 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 4: particularly difficult. 104 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: But it's sharpened my skills a lot, you know, to. 105 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: Just make sure I'm on my p's and q's and 106 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 4: keeping up with these stories and then also filtering through 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 4: information and false information. 108 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, You've done an excellent job. 109 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: And you know my my contract temporary gig a Revolt, uh, 110 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: you know, doing the politic doing a political correspondent this 111 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: season has been awesome. You know we've done for debate shows, 112 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: I believe and for those who are listening, go check 113 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: out the Revolt world if you have not by now 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: with Byron Donalds and Gary Chambers, that was really good 115 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: and tall you don't I've taken a lot of slack jay, 116 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: you know, people saying, you know, why do you have 117 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: different people on the platform. I can't win for losing. 118 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: If I don't put them on, they say you didn't 119 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: put them on. If I put them on, they say, well, 120 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: why'd you put them on? 121 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: You know, so it's just a copy. So I am. 122 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: Constantly criticized one way or the other. You talk too much, 123 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: you don't talk enough, or why did you do it? 124 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: So? 125 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: Why did it? So it's just been a constant pulling, 126 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: which is fine. I'm built for it. But it's just 127 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: been a constant, constant uh, you know push. But I 128 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 2: think history will serve it well. Even if you agree 129 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: or don't agree with Byron Donalds or Gary Chambers. His 130 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: reserve well and you know how I know that because 131 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: it has been amazing watching people applaud VP hars for 132 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: going on Fox News. I'm old enough to remember when 133 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: I went on Fox News, I was told to sell 134 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: out of betrayal. Why are you going over there and 135 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: helping them with their numbers? Why are you over there? 136 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,559 Speaker 1: What's the point of being over them? Saying? 137 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: Because somebody needs to have the conversation, somebody needs to 138 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: be unafraid to go on the lines down And it 139 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: took a long time. Charlemagne was one of the critics 140 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: in the very beginning, and it took a long time, 141 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: you know, to get people to see, oh it makes sense. 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: And he was actually one of the ones that pushed 143 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: VP Haerris to go to Fox News. So I for me, 144 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of things that I've talked about 145 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: throughout the years come to pass. And another thing I 146 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: want to mention that people may not like, but it 147 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: is just the truth. I have been disappointed on the 148 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: billion dollars that was raised in less than one percent 149 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: going to black firms. That has been a disappointment, but 150 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: certainly not new. It has gotten progressively worse. So what 151 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: has happened, Jaye? This time. A lot of the gatekeepers 152 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 2: actually got gate cap this time because I've been talking 153 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: to a lot of folks saying, I can't believe they're 154 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: doing this, Why are they doing this? Who are these people? 155 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: And I'm like, these are the same people that go 156 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: from campaign to campaign to campaign and get hired over 157 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: and over and continue to keep the money for the 158 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: ads and the ad buys and the consulting fees and 159 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: do very little on the ground. They did it with 160 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: Barack Obama because they, oh, well, you know, we can 161 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: keep the black vote because people are going to vote 162 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: for Obama. And it just got increasingly worse, particularly with 163 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: VP Harris. So a lot of people who I would 164 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: say elite of my lead friends that are not on 165 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: the ground, you know, not the canvassers knocking on doors, 166 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: really on the ground. They have just had their mind 167 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: blown behind really seeing how this really works behind the scenes. 168 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: And so the Harris campaign has really taken a you know, 169 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: all digital approach and again and they say they have 170 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: volunteers on the ground. I'm not saying they don't have 171 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: anybody on the ground, Jade, I'm just saying a lot 172 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: of the traditional ways of doing things they opted out 173 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: this time. In the one time you got ninety days, 174 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: but a lot of money that really could have been 175 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: put on the ground in different ways. And so it's 176 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: going to be interesting from an operative standpoint to see 177 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: what this looks like. So, for example, you go to 178 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: the west side of Atlanta, you don't see any signs anywhere. 179 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: You don't really see, you know, the engagement they've been 180 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: depending on a lot of things that you mentioned, the 181 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: fundraising excitement, the white men for Harris, the black men 182 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: for heurists black But in the end of the day, Jade, 183 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: as you saw on the campaign you recently worked on, 184 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: it is really about knocking on those doors. Again, Michelle Wadley, 185 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: I did not know if she was walking knocking on 186 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: the doors or knock because Canada say all the time, 187 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: I'm knocking on the doors. But I told you, remember, 188 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: I said, we're gonna see because the numbers are gonna show. 189 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: At the end, it's gonna show. And she for her 190 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: to get just as many as the incumbent, very close 191 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: to the incumbent's number in sixty days when he's been 192 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: running all year and it's incumbent, shows you that she 193 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: was knocking on the doors so that just shows you 194 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: jade like what knocking on the doors looks like. So 195 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: we've seen unpresidented numbers and early voting. Republicans did a 196 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: reverse uno and said, you know what, hey, if it 197 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: works for you guys, the early voting, then we're gonna 198 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: get on voting. So normally, you know, they're complaining about 199 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: early voting. They're normally saying, you know, why do you 200 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: need two weeks to vote? Why do you need all 201 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: this time? Why do you need water? Why do you 202 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: need But they say, you know what, we're gonna play 203 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 2: that game, and we're not gonna listen to President Trump 204 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 2: and just go on election day. We're actually gonna come 205 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: out and take advantage of this two three weeks that 206 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: we have in order to vote. And it's made a difference. 207 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: Record breaking numbers on the first day in Georgia and 208 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: before Democrats get too excited and get to oh yeah, 209 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: that usually favors us. No, not this time, because Republicans 210 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 2: were actually voting. Now, when we looked at the numbers 211 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: they came from the county, we can assume that more 212 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: people voted Democrat based on the counties and how they 213 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: normally vote voted Democrats are Republican. But if Democrats think, oh, 214 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: we got it in the bag and oh it's all good, 215 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: don't forget. Republicans are motivated by seeing how many of 216 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: their people went to the polls as well, and they're 217 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: not gonna stop voting. 218 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: Then you just. 219 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: Vote just the one day and say we're just gonna 220 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: sit at home. They're gonna continue to vote every single 221 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 2: day all the way up until election day. So there's 222 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: a real race going on now in Georgia, a real race, 223 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: like neck and neck. And that's just you know, looking 224 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: at the numbers that we see. So it's gonna be 225 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: very interesting, you know, to see how this how this 226 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: pans out. 227 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 228 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 4: I mean I was reading an article the other week 229 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 4: about how the early voting benefited both parties and the 230 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: art That article came out from the aja AJC dot 231 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 4: com and it was just saying that early voting was 232 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 4: good news for both parties and that's something that you, 233 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: you and I had talked about previously. But when you 234 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: have like over seven hundred and fifty thousand people in 235 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: the state of Georgia that come out to early vote 236 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: in the first few days of early voting, it is amazing. 237 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: So I am just really interested to see how this 238 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: pans out, especially with all of the swing states. Oh 239 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: this is this is uh, it's crunch time. 240 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: So I've been. 241 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: Talking about back to back to back swing state swing 242 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: Stay says, margin, margin, margin. Everybody keeps saying, oh, no, no, 243 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: this is about the Margin's jade, this is about the margin. 244 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: This is about And they've changed up the strategy. At 245 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 2: first it was okay, we need to we can lock 246 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 2: in Michigan and Pennsylvania and Georgia. Then it's switched and said, Okay, 247 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: we're not gonna do that. Let's take Michigan offase we're 248 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: not sure we can get that. Let's take Georgia off, 249 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: Let's focus on Arizona and Nevada, North Carolina. Then they 250 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: then switched it back to now putting Michigan back on 251 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: the table. So it's just being from the Democrat side, 252 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: it's just been a lot of back and forth, a 253 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: lot of you know, switching, as you know, are organized 254 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: in Michigan, going to do even more in Michigan. But 255 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: that's that I'm really paying attention to that because it 256 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: to me, it's the most interesting and I've told I've 257 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: said this multiple multiple times. The most interesting demographic that 258 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: we have now because again you have a sitting congresswoman, 259 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: a sitting Democrat congresswoman that is literally discouraging people to 260 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: not vote on the record, not just talking behind the scenes, 261 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: but her rascheeta to leave. You know how people say, oh, 262 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: I think she tried, not she's on the record. Rashidas, 263 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 2: the lead congress on Rashida's leave means what she says 264 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: when she says cease fire or nothing. And so I'm 265 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: interested to see what with that one hundred thousand, you know, 266 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: what is that looking like? Are they expecting Detroit to 267 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: pick up the you know, to pick up the difference 268 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: I've organized there, and Jade, I'm just telling you, when 269 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: you got thirty three percent in Detroit, you know, living 270 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: under the property line, government is not necessarily their friend. 271 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: And there hasn't been a lot of hope to say, Okay, 272 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: maybe if we just get this one more chance, we'll 273 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: look on the back end. So I know Detroit will 274 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: definitely show up, but I'm just going by the numbers. 275 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: You know, we can look at Hill Harper, who got 276 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: Molly wopped, who you know was heavily Yeah. 277 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: I mean I listen. 278 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: I was very, very naive when I saw that he 279 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: was running. I assumed that he would have a lot 280 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 4: of support on the ground and that he was a celebrity. Absolutely, Yeah, 281 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: that part of my naive t That's why you know, 282 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 4: I have you exists in. 283 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: My corner, realist in a voice of reason. 284 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 4: You're like, Jay, it doesn't actually work like that, But 285 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 4: I just I mean, I was surprised to see like 286 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: how badly he lost, but that was an indication to 287 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 4: how little he was actually on the ground. 288 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I mean he's been somewhat disconnected. Also, 289 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: you know, you just pop back in and say, hey, 290 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm here at home now let me just you know, 291 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: and again, money that you spent, he went straight to senate. 292 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: This is why I tell people, as you know, I 293 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: say all the time. You know, don't stop being above 294 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: city council and us. I mean, I'm sorry, the state rep. 295 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: State senator, not US senator. You want to go straight 296 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: to the top like Barack Obama. Don't work that. There's 297 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: more people that you have to get out the vote. 298 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: You need more money and you need more you need 299 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: more resources, you know, to get people out. And just 300 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: your name is not enough. Name recognition is not enough, 301 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: you know, And that's why I tell me this is 302 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: about knocking them doors. He did raise money, but it 303 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: wasn't just about that. The unknown person has been a 304 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: part of the process, the one who got the Democrat 305 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: and I'm talkingbou the Democrat primary, has been a part 306 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: of the process year over year over year over year. 307 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: So those connections are real. You can't just ignore that. 308 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: And so he learned, and he was depending a lot 309 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: on Detroit and black people in Detroit in early voting 310 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: and a lot of the voting precincts. He was depending 311 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: on that to come through. And people are hurting, Jade. 312 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: And when you look at Detroit, Cleveland, Milwaukee, three of 313 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: those cities, when you look at how black people are 314 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: doing in those cities. 315 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: So if you're expecting Wisconsin, if you think. 316 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: Milwaukee's gonna get Wisconsin, you better go look and see 317 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: what's happening. You know, in Milwaukee, more black men incarcerated 318 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: anywhere in the country, more Black women murdered than anywhere 319 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: in the country. Wow, heavy property, Cleveland, heavy property, Detroit 320 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: high in property, high and suicide, high, end depression high, 321 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: all of those things. When you're dealing with all of that, 322 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: and you're saying, oh, yeah, bout way, go be excited 323 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: about about change and hope. Right, yeah, that's a yeah, 324 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: that's a that's a heavy lift. But Michigan, I just 325 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: keep repeating it over and over, evenough I know people 326 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: tired of repeating it, but I have to because people 327 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: are not understanding. 328 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: It's not just Detroit. 329 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: You got the unions, you know, who literally said we're 330 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: not picking sides, you know this time. 331 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: So you got the Teensters. 332 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 4: I mean the fact that the guy the head of 333 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: the Teensters went and spoke at the Republican National Convention 334 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: and they still didn't They didn't endorse the Democrats or 335 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 4: the Republicans. 336 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: But essentially addressed in the Republicans. Again, everybody knows unions 337 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: heavy union is a liberal thing, period. So by staying 338 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: out of it, it's very clear going to the R 339 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: and C, very clear they have not not endorsed the 340 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: candidate in over thirty years, so let's be clear. But 341 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: Trump has done a good job of making the white 342 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: working class or the working class man, or the forgotten man, 343 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: even though he's never been working class, even though he's 344 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: never been never did a hard day of labor in 345 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: his life. He's done. He's done a very good job 346 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: of making them feel he's the voice for them. So 347 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: that's how he's been able to penetrate in that market. Now, 348 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people in the Union will tell you 349 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: that the majority of them have pieced off the individual 350 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: chapters all of that. You know, they are supporting VP Hereris, 351 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: But that's not the point. The point is the overall 352 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: organization is taking a step back, including the firefighters as well. 353 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: They have, you know, also taken a step back. So 354 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: these are and I'll never forget that. I remember in 355 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: Orlando when Teresa Jacob's Republican was running for mayor, and 356 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: I'll never forget that story. I learned a lot of 357 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: these stories on the local level, watching which has helped 358 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: me get a lot of insight national. And Bill Katz, 359 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: who was running for mayor, we just knew he had 360 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: it locked up construction a Democrat wife on legal women voters, 361 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: a favorite commissioner, spent a gang of money. I did 362 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: an organizing event for him in the hood, like he 363 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: came to that, showed up playpool, knocked on Gray, probably 364 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: lost about forty pounds, like being like he really, really 365 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: you know, like worked worked, really, you know, I never 366 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: he had literally this is when I learned that endorsements 367 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: don't me anything. He had literally every single organization you 368 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: can think of, you know that endorsed him, from the black, 369 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: the white, the chamber, all of the Black churches, all 370 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: of the black organizations, you name it. 371 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: He had it. 372 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: A Bill Siegel Jewish guy had the Jewish community, the 373 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: Black community. I'm talking about upper echelon, all the way 374 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: to the hood. We just knew like, no way, that, 375 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: no way, that Bill Siegel is not gonna win this race. 376 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: And the very last minute, Tarika Jacobs, who was a 377 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: Republican and a commissioner at the time, got in like 378 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: maybe thirty days before thirty sixty days, you know, like 379 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: last minute. And don't quote me on the number, but 380 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: it was definitely last minute. He had been running this race, 381 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: you know, all the time, and they were like, oh, yeah, 382 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: it's going to build, going to seagull. Everybody knows that 383 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: got in and how she how she won that race 384 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: is the firefighters roll with her. And they thought that 385 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: the firefighters will you know, with Bill, he's the one 386 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: that had all the relationships. But they remember when she 387 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: was a commissioner, and she stood for them, and she 388 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: used her voice to stand for them, and they came 389 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: in and flip that whole thing. I was so devastated 390 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: because that was my first I didn't work on this race, 391 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: per se. I was sitting on the legal on the 392 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: voter's board at the time, and that was I was like, Wow, 393 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to really know the mayor. We're gonna be 394 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: able to get these card you know, I just I 395 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: that was the first time that I just saw how 396 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: an establishment candidate that got everything across the board can 397 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: literally one candidate come in and one thing that they 398 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: did for one particular group can change the narrative. And 399 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: that's what I really learned. Yeah, you gotta really your 400 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: constituents and how you operate and how you move and 401 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: you know how you stand on business. You know, Theresa 402 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: stood on business and they just remembered that and they 403 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: went with that. 404 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: So I've seen that go a People underestimate the power 405 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 4: of organized labor and organized labor unions. I mean, even 406 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: during this election cycle, the port workers, the shipping. 407 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: Workers, they struck. 408 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: They were want to strike for a short period of 409 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 4: time and it had immediate impacts on prices, inflation, and 410 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: you know, folks, you know, and then also other labor 411 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 4: unions also advocating for things like equal pay and things, 412 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 4: and so I think moving forward, elected officials are going 413 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 4: to have to start back paying a lot more attention 414 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: to organized labor. I also wanted to to mention tas, 415 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: you know, to remind folks that there there's so many 416 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 4: other elections happening, right, So many races are happening on 417 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: November fifth. I'm sorry, Yeah, November fifth, twenty twenty four. 418 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 4: So thirty three out of one hundred seats in the 419 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 4: US Senate will be contested in regular elections. 420 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: So there are a lot of. 421 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: Lot of seats, and the balance of power in terms 422 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: of you know, the red or the blue is going 423 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: to be kind of up in the air. So I 424 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: know that twenty twenty five is going to be quite 425 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 4: interesting when we see who's going to be in the 426 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 4: White House and who's going to be in the Senate, 427 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: and you know, the House representatives and what legislation can 428 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 4: actually get through. And I know that something that you 429 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: and I have been talking about quite a bit this 430 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 4: election cycle is like the power of executive orders. It's 431 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: just going to have to be you know, whoever gets 432 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: in the office making executive orders, because I'm not sure 433 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 4: you know how much is actually getting pushed through Congress 434 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: or will be push through Congress, given you know, the 435 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: makeup of those seats. 436 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: M And I'm gonna be looking at to see what 437 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: this means for the organizer. You know, they also they raid, 438 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: which I'm kind of repeating myself, but i just want 439 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: to make this other point. They sent a lot of 440 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: money to a lot of the nonprofits and just you know, 441 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: said y'all do the work. You know, usually there's a 442 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: mix you know, campaign operators, consultants on the ground, but 443 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: they really put a heavy concentration and say, okay, we're 444 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: gonna give one million dollars to the Urban League. I'm 445 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: just throwing something out of you know, fifty thousand dollars, 446 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 2: two hundred black men, and y'all do some get out 447 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 2: the boat and registration and let us know how it works. 448 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: And I'm that's gonna be really interesting to me because 449 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: even working on campaigns and when you're even hiring people, 450 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: you gotta literally we've literally had to go follow them, 451 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: watch them, make sure they're doing what they're doing. Throwing away, brochures, pamphlets, 452 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: all of that. So leaning given all of it, putting 453 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: into such a heavy impassis on expecting a nonprofits to 454 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: do the work that doesn't necessarily have a direct interest 455 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: per se. And I know so many nonprofits that just 456 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 2: fill out paperwork and say, yeah, we did X, Y 457 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: Z in there. And because they gave them very limited resources, 458 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: one denomination I believe got half a million dollars, but 459 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: that was to be split between like thirty forty churches. 460 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: Like they can't it's not much you know that they 461 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: can really do with that. So I this is gonna 462 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: be interesting to me to see if the new model works, 463 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: if it's okay depend on TikTok, see if social media 464 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: you know, can bring in the votes. Me personally, I'm 465 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: old school. You need to touch those people four or 466 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: five times in those swing states by hand, So I'm 467 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: old school. So it's gonna be interesting to see, you know, 468 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: how that plays out. But Jade, I don't even know 469 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: if I'm gonna be able to figure it out because 470 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: there's so many factors to it. You know, is this 471 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: she she only had ninety days to run. Could that 472 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: program have worked if it had been all your life, 473 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, It's so many different ingredients 474 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: in the pot. It's gonna be hard to kind of 475 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: shift out and see, you know what went wrong and 476 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: what did. 477 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: But folks are already dropping dimes. 478 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 2: There was an article, as we know, the end LACP 479 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: called them out for not spend enough honey in the 480 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: black community. Also, there was an article a couple of 481 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: weeks ago last week on Politico where Pennsylvania has said, 482 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: y'all not spend the person over Pennsylvania don't know what 483 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: they're talking about, and they don't have relationships, you know, 484 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 2: where people in the party, and they're not spending enough 485 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: money on people of color and in other words, black outreach. 486 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: When it's Tappa Jade as I've seen this when people 487 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: drop dimes ahead of time, you know, because when I 488 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: asked her, they said when they said they got it 489 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, it even said that in an article, we 490 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: think we still got it. But uh uh, when people 491 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 2: start dropping dimes, they want to make it known that 492 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: if it's if we don't win this state, we want 493 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: to let you know this is why. So that that 494 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: tells me a lot. In Pennsylvania's a state that they 495 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: really need. 496 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: So it's just. 497 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: Gonna be interesting. 498 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm just sure. And we also have. 499 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 4: To look at gen Z. Many folks in gen Z, 500 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: they're young people. Many of them are voting for the 501 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: first time. We're looking at about eight They are about 502 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 4: eighteen percent of young people who are saying. 503 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: That they will not be voting at all. 504 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 4: According to a study by the Youth Vote that came 505 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 4: out months ago, they were saying that both VP Harris 506 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: and Trump they were aggressively present on social media apps 507 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 4: such as like TikTok right and doing outreach. But there's 508 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 4: still so many young people within that pool of voters, 509 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 4: the group of voters between age eighteen to twenty eight 510 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 4: years old that said that they're not voting, and these 511 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: are some of the reasons why they. A lot of 512 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: them claim that they don't know enough to vote. Some 513 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 4: of them said they didn't like either candidate. They were 514 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 4: saying they're not voting because there wasn't a democratic primary. 515 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 4: I guess in certain places, you know, a democratic primary, 516 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: like within a Democratic party. Remember President Joe Biden essentially 517 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 4: was running and then he said he wasn't going to run. 518 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: So let me put a pause with that. 519 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 2: Also, that means because remember nobody challenged Biden, so what 520 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: they didn't have a chance to flush out the issues. 521 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 2: It was just he's on the ballot and that's it. 522 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: So even if it you know, yeah, primary against other 523 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: people are him himself or not. They basically did no campaigning. 524 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: They basically just We're just gonna go on the ballot 525 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: and hey, I'm the and they weren't expecting to actually 526 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: run until you know, Trump versus Biden, and so all 527 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: of that time, you got to think about all that time, 528 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: it was just sitting on the shelf. You know, nobody 529 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 2: was organized and nobody was having conversations. Meanwhile, Trump has 530 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: had a rally every single month this whole four years. 531 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: He has been organizing this whole time. 532 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. 533 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: So now you want Hairs to come in ninety days 534 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: prior to and make up for the last four years 535 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: of not seeing her one because she's a VP, you 536 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: don't but not seeing her a lot on the campaign trail. 537 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: Joe Biden did not do an organizing strategy, which means 538 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: like really having like this this idea of just being 539 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: a politician and not continue to run grassroots and not 540 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: continue to run for office doesn't work. Trump has ran 541 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: when he gets in, he runs for office the entire 542 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: time they stopped. They got to the business of being president. 543 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: But you can't do that. You really got to follow 544 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: the organizing for Obama Organize for America model, and continue organizing. 545 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: Democrats do not do that. So you've had essentially nobody 546 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 2: doing anything, and then she pops up. Now is ninety days, 547 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: now's campaign time. So I as some clearly that what 548 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: are the other reasons? Why? 549 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, some of the other reasons because they were gen z. 550 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 4: Some folks and gen Z were saying they feel like 551 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 4: their vote won't matter. Some of them were saying that 552 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: they worry for the future of their party, right, for 553 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 4: the future of the Republican Party, or they worry for 554 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 4: the future of the Democratic Party. So they just kind 555 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 4: of were opting out. Some said they didn't feel like 556 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: the president affects their day today life, which I thought 557 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 4: was very very interesting. And then also many disagreed with 558 00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: the US foreign pow. 559 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: Yep, haven't I told you that? Yeah, that's told you. 560 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: Especially in Michigan you have the Palestinian movement ceasefire or nothing. 561 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: And remember I said the College you cannot depend Bernie 562 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: Sanders did very well with college students. They're not dependable. 563 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: The great if they get that the numbers of the 564 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: numbers are there, she can't depend on. It can be fickle. 565 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: Now the only thing that can benefit her is she 566 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: had ninety days. So maybe they'll be excited enough. I've 567 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: talked to some Clark students, some students who are excited. 568 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: But again, the student debt, the war, these are things 569 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: that college students have been involved about. 570 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: Go ahead, and also they're involved with They've been very 571 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 4: vocal about women's reproductive health as well. 572 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: And that might be a plus, you know, I think 573 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: that's where that's really what this campaign is riding on women. 574 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: We loctivehim, like, seriously, it's really what it is. Immigration 575 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: and reproductive health. Those are the two things. 576 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: Is there anything else on the list? I keep interrupted 577 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: with my bad, No, it's okay, I see one. 578 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: A couple said that if they were trying to avoid 579 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 4: jury duty working to vote, which is which is really 580 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: funny to me, and then also sorry, you're still gonna 581 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: what yeah. 582 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: Because you're trying to avoid jerry duty. 583 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: But then your dude just so, did you guys know 584 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: that has to do with having a license. So just 585 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: so you guys know, not. 586 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: Whether you are registered to vote for either party or 587 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 4: registered to right just but that just goes. 588 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: I love your duty. By the way, it's very important 589 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: to have jury duty. I got to coming up in December. 590 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to I finally I've never been called 591 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 2: for jury duty. 592 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. Yeah. 593 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: And then another final reason I see here that was listed. 594 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: Some folks in gen Z said they don't that they 595 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 4: don't see a difference between the candidates. 596 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: Uh so, well, it's a difference. Now if you rock 597 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: with Trump, you just walk with Trump. But it's definitely 598 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: a stark difference. 599 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 4: It's a huge difference. But this is what concerns me 600 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: with this selection cycle. We have many young people test 601 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 4: and you're a political science scholar, and then you have 602 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 4: all of the you know, the experience, you know, working 603 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: in politics, and many many facets. I am concerned that 604 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 4: gen Z, especially the younger people in gen Z who 605 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 4: are like eighteen years old, nineteen years old, voting in 606 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: a presidential election for the first time. I think, you know, 607 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 4: at the education system, you know, when we talk about 608 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 4: public education and political science education, civics, that has been 609 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: lacking and that a lot of these folks in gen 610 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 4: Z they lost a lot of in school time because 611 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 4: of the pandemic, you know, and see. 612 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I hear all of that, but at 613 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: the end of the day, Jay, like, people have to 614 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: have something personal connect to. People get involved in politics 615 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: because they have something, have something personal to connect to. 616 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: You can be because I also want to give gen 617 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: Z credit, you know, the March for Your Lives and 618 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: there's been more young activist teenagers with the school shootings 619 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: and all of that that I did not have in 620 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: my generation. So they've actually been more active. But it 621 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: was because it affected them at their level. You know, 622 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: having school shootings affected them at their level. But this 623 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 2: is not about oh you just need to know and 624 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: just read a book. People are just going through the 625 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: motions and passing the class. Usually people that get involved 626 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: in politics that really become vocal, really become active. Something 627 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: happened to them and they're able to make the connection 628 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: with politics, you know, if they have, like again, March 629 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: for Their Lives, biggest student led movement ever in the 630 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: history of our country outside of college students that were 631 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: leading the war and Vietnam and all of that, but 632 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: these were high school students. But when you start shooting 633 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: up people's school and you know what, I mean, to 634 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: have to duck from a bullet very different. In my generation, 635 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: they did have shootouts at our school, but not like this. 636 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: This was game paying So so I want to give 637 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: credit with that, But that was because it was something 638 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: that directly effected. I mean, there's adults who are not engaged, 639 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: who are not involved because they haven't made the connection. 640 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: So they just got more living to do. That's all 641 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: more living to do. I don't think it's a matter 642 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: of well, maybe you just need to understanding, you need 643 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: to know how important it is. You need a da 644 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: da da da da. You know, again, it just got 645 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: more living to do. It's not at the top of 646 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: the priority. But I know for year olds, fifty year olds, 647 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: six year olds, who don't see the connection, don't see 648 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: the point, don't see you know, what's the point in 649 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: doing it. But because those numbers are so high in 650 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: gen Z, they've targeted that thinking, oh, young voters, this 651 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: is where it's at. Because there was a time again 652 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: in the sixties where young people were involved. But what 653 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: did I just say, they were connected to the war 654 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: it was the war, it was the hippie movement, it 655 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: was the you know, friends are getting drafted. I don't 656 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: want to be drafted. We got to end the war. 657 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: Very much like what's happening with Gaza. Young people are 658 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: involving in Gaza. Look at all of the protests all 659 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: over the country at college campuses. So I'm not concerned 660 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: they're doing exactly what young people do. You know when 661 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: when you have wars and get involved. But it have 662 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: been even I want it again, go on record, more 663 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: involved than any demographic when it's come down to young, young, 664 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: young high school students. You know that got that did 665 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: the March of March for the student remember the walkouts 666 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: in high school all of the country. That hasn't happened 667 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: in any of these generations. So I give them credit. 668 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: It's just not something from an operator standpoint, you don't 669 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: want to be depending on that because it can be 670 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: very fickle. And so if you're just thinking, oh, let's 671 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: just do it through TikTok and they gonna go, maybe 672 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: not so much. But I think reproductive health, particular for 673 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 2: college students and went girls on birth control and access 674 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: to abortion, all of that, you know, certainly is something 675 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: that people, you know, can relate to. So I think 676 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: they got some favor there, but just shouldn't be depending 677 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 2: on it, that's all. Just like they don't need to 678 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 2: be dependent on the black vote. Ninety percent of black 679 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: voters when I talking about nine percent of black people 680 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: make let's make the difference. Ninety percent of black voters 681 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: vote Democratic and they're still not investing like they should 682 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: and that and that is a mistake. 683 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. And a lot of folks are voting 684 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: for the couch. So come November the sixth. 685 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: They need to know that people have always voted for 686 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: the couch. You know, I keep trying to tell people 687 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: couch voters they've always voted for the couch. There's always, 688 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: there are billions of I really need people to notice, Like, seriously, 689 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: there's always Jay. You saw the local race that you 690 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: were just a part of. One hundred thousand people to 691 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: two hundred thousand people that were registered to vote, yep, 692 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: did not show up, right, how many people showed up 693 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 2: seven hundred four's three thousand at best? I need to 694 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: know the couch has all people are always voting for 695 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 2: the couch. There's always I know that's people's leverage day. 696 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: But it is so frustrating because I don't have no 697 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 2: problem with I'm saying it. I'm not interested. I'm voting 698 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: for the couch, but. 699 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: I really do need y'all me by the way, I 700 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: just want to make that known. 701 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want people to know, like there's always 702 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 2: more voting for the couch than not. The thread is 703 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: splitting the vote like Rashida t Leeb has done. The 704 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,479 Speaker 2: threat is like Cornell West has done uncommitted it'll sign 705 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: huh yeah like that. Yeah, like I they're still voting 706 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: for the couch, the uncommitted voters. But these were actual voters. 707 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 4: Right, They went to the post and they selected uncommitted 708 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 4: like they're not. 709 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: But I also want to make the point. 710 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: These were voters and the previous election, these people voted 711 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: in Rashida to leave. They also voted in for Rashida sleep. 712 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: Remember Rashidia Leed just had an election a couple of 713 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: months ago. So these are actual voters. The reason why 714 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 2: it's a threat because yes, your point then went to 715 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: the post. You know I always say that, but I 716 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: want to make this very clear. The reason why they 717 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: are a threat is because they were all they are 718 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: counted because they literally just voted. You understand what I'm saying. 719 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: People that are saying they're voting for the couch. Most 720 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: people saying they're voting for the couch hasn't been voting, 721 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: so they're not even in. 722 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: The the mix. 723 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 2: If that makes sense, You only are a threat when 724 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: you have been counted on as a super voter for 725 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: the last three, four or five elections. These same people 726 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: that are saying I'm voting for the couch also wasn't 727 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: going to vote Billary Clinton, probably didn't vote for Obama. 728 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: So I need people to understand what this I'm voting 729 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: for the couch means. Vote for the couch. If you 730 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 2: want to push that, say I don't like neither one. 731 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: I'm not advocating against it. I think we need dissension. 732 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 2: I think people you need that kind of organized chaos. 733 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: I get it, But I just want people to know 734 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 2: the threat that you think you're doing. And you saw 735 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: a jay, You saw me put together a strategy in 736 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 2: real time. These are the numbers that you need. You 737 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: saw the in real time. Hey Michelle, why are you 738 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: talking to these people? You need to be talking at 739 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 2: these eight hundred, These are thousand three times over and 740 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 2: you saw the results. Yes, so it was two hundred thousand, Yeah, 741 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: two un thine people have got. That made it easier 742 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: for Michelle because she was able to touch four people 743 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: in sixty days. 744 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: You saw it in real time. So that's why. 745 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 2: So when some so if more people said I'm both 746 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: with the couch, and that would have benefit of Michelle. Okay, 747 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 2: now we don't need eight hundred. Now we just need 748 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 2: seven hundred, six hundred, five hundred, because somebody's gonna get 749 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: elected with fifty one percent or fifty plus one regardless 750 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: of whether you both of the couch or not. So 751 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: I just need people to know. The lower the numbers, 752 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 2: which means the more people that get out of the process, 753 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 2: the easier it is for Michelle. Yep, it only hurts 754 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 2: Michelle if the eight hundred people that she was expecting 755 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 2: to show up, if half of them say I'm voting 756 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: for the couch. But then again, if she get two hundred, 757 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: somebody else get one hundred and fifty or one hundred 758 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: and she get one on one, she wins. So it's 759 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: not a matter it's this couch thing. It's about splitting, 760 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: it's about other options, you know, It's about positions down up, 761 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 2: not top down. It's a bigger strategy than just I'm 762 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 2: voting for the couch. Good they want you to. Now, 763 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: Trump knows he needs to peel off one or two percent, 764 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 2: meaning one or two percent that's actually going to vote 765 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 2: for him, not the couch jade for him, and I 766 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 2: believe people are going to do it. To be honest 767 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: with you, I believe a lot of these for the 768 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: couch people that say they ain't rocking with Trump. I 769 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 2: believe they're going to go to the polls and vote 770 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,479 Speaker 2: for Trump. But his goal is to peel them off 771 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: to vote for him. I know you hear a lot 772 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: of Oh, not voting for Harris is a vote for Trump. 773 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 2: Actually it's not really. Actually it is, but it ain't 774 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: not really he needs to peel off me. No longer 775 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: voting fairs in the bucket of the numbers that we 776 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: put together, and now I'm moving that over to the 777 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 2: Trump side for an actual vote, not sitting at home, 778 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 2: an actual vote. So people, just is there benefit of 779 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: losing people that you can depend on. Yes, I don't 780 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 2: want to say not voting for the couch doesn't work, 781 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: But I just want people to understand if you have 782 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: not been a super voter and somebody they're counting on, 783 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: you were never in the equation, just like when you 784 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: saw I did in real time. Yeah, how many registered voters, 785 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 2: how many are super voters? How many are in this district? 786 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 2: What can we feasibly touch? You know that? So people 787 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 2: gotta know, like literally, you need to understand how the 788 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 2: feel works in order to be able to you know, 789 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 2: to understand. 790 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Yep, awesome. 791 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: So anyway, guys, we gonna see how's gonna go, you know, 792 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 2: closer and closer. It can't get no faster. I'm excited. 793 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: We got one last show. 794 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: We'll revolt. 795 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 2: We'll be doing an election a watch party. We're gonna 796 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: start there really late, you know, when the numbers start 797 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: coming in. We're not gonna do like before we have 798 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 2: all this talk before, because there's none else to talk 799 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: about this point. Then it is what it is. We're 800 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 2: no more talking who should be not be? No. Let 801 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 2: let's we'll probably started the show ten eleven o'clock Eastern, 802 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: you know when it was really start coming in, and 803 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 2: we're just gonna see what it is and then I 804 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 2: and then after that we're gonna see what happens after that, 805 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 2: because just so you guys know, in the movement in 806 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 2: politics in media, everybody's waiting to see what it's going 807 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 2: to look like because that's gonna shift how the media 808 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 2: is gonna move. So I've been waiting on that, and 809 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: we're gonna go from there, guys. So thank you Jade 810 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 2: again for joining me, and thank you everybody. 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