WEBVTT - Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 149 | Eyes on the Endzone and Player Development 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:18.959 Welcome to jag Zam. I'm kind of Annie. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.439 Stephen, Brian Sexton, and John Oser are with me today. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.200 It's the third week of OTAs here in Jacksonville. We 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.440 are inching closer to actual football, but for right now, 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:29.800 just helmets and shorts as we watch them at practice, 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:31.360 try to get a little bit of an idea of 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.560 what this new team is going to look like. Let's 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.440 start out with our big things. Big thing number one 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:36.360 is red zone work. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:37.159 We see a ton of that. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.640 We try to make a lot of those situations and 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.080 what they do in that exactly. But what we heard 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.800 from Liam Cohen yesterday was about what he's seen from 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.640 Trevor Lawrence so far in the red zone. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.040 He's actually done a really nice job in the red zone. 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.560 Really looking back to the first time that we did 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:56.520 it last Friday, when we did it, I think he 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.520 made some quick decisions. You know, everything is sped up 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.960 in the red air area, when the timing, the rhythm, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.880 the space, it's all tighter, it's all sped up. I 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:06.800 thought he's done a nice job with his footwork in 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:11.480 the red zone, understanding that concept. 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.080 Ryan red zone, third down, in the red zone, all 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.280 problem areas for this team last year. A lot of 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:18.240 that is going to be on Trevor Lawrence's shoulders to 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:19.200 deal with going forward. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.680 Good to see so far, well, yeah, absolutely, and you 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:23.800 would expect as he goes into his fifth season that 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.600 every facet of his game, especially those money zone games, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.360 you know, win the red zone, would be important to him. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.800 Two guys though, that I am watching in the red 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:36.160 zone this year Brent Strange, the tight end who has 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.280 great leaping abilities we've seen in the past and a 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:43.039 guy with really good hands. And also Tank Bigsby, right, 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.320 I mean, if the Jaguars are going to and people say, well, 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:49.000 what about Brian Thomas and what about the Travis Hunter. 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.040 But there's two guys I think that will help the 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.600 quarterback more than anyone else, and that is Tank's ability 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.040 to punch it in and Stranger's ability to get open 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.720 while other people are focused on number seven or number twelve. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.800 If those two guys can lift their game in the 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.360 red zone, I think it'll help Trevor Lawrence. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.360 Yeah, it should overall be a better red zone team. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.000 For one of the guys that Brian mentioned as well, 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.160 Brian Thomas Junior. I think he's going to continue to 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:18.280 be more of a go to guy there. Look, you're 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.160 at the point now in OTAs and with a new 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.079 regime where they've been around these players for a while. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.200 My understanding is the last couple of weeks Trevor Lawrence 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:29.960 has really impressed. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.000 The people who are working with them. 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.720 Not that they didn't expect to be impressed, but you're 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.600 at that point now, Brian, where there's two or three 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.120 months in. They're getting a feel for study habits, they're 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.560 getting a feel for want to work ethic. Those are 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.040 all things that when people come in they want to 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.480 know about a guy. You can hear it, but you 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.680 got to see it high end stuff from Trevor Lawrence. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.639 I my understanding he's improved dramatically the last couple of 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.080 weeks in terms of what they want from him. So 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:01.040 Red Zone's part of that, but overall, Uh, the last 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.160 couple of weeks have been really encouraging for the quarterback. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.800 Very good switch to the defensive side of the ball. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.960 Our second sig thing today is gonna be weigh and 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.040 we've made note of it here on this program. Some 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.960 of the defensive players have lost weight. They look significantly 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.160 a little bit more athletic, out there. Josh Heinz Allen 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.200 talked yesterday about what's going on with him. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.520 You know, my mindset was always you know, to be 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.600 as dominant, but you know it was a little obviously 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.800 holding a little bit more weight kind of you know, 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:28.360 puts a. 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.160 Little bit more wear and tear on the body. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:35.400 And just you know, it was a lot too much. Again, 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.440 learn to adapt, got to know know what works that's 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.960 for you. Something I tried and something that I'm like, alright, 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.320 I probably don't want to do that again. 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.800 Yeah, John Josh said yesterday he played at two eighty 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:49.880 five last year. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:51.440 He doesn't wanna do that again. 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.680 I think just from what we've seen, he looks a 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.400 little bit more healthy, says he's feeling better. Does this 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.160 mean we're gonna see some better play from him too? 0:03:59.480 --> 0:03:59.680 Yeah? 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:03.440 Where start here? Look, a lot of guys were asked 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.080 to put on weight last year. Last year is behind them, 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:11.480 but it's pretty clear that that did not work. This 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.720 regime is taking the approach of they want these guys 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.320 feeling as good as they feel physically going in. Whether 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.680 that's a two sixty five to eighty five to eighty 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.920 five for Josh Allen, I think everybody watching last year 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.520 saw that Devin Lloyd was ballooned up, Josh Allen was 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.160 ballooned up, and you sort of thought, Okay, what's going on. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.039 Uh, they tried something last year. 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:39.720 It clearly didn't work, and Brian, they're being as nice 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:44.039 as possible. That's Josh's nice way of saying, thank god, 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.560 I don't have to do that again. Right. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.520 There are players that add weight. There's a story about 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.200 the Ravens pass rusher today adding twenty pounds to his 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.799 frame because he wanted to be stronger when the season 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:59.080 got into the November and December range. So guys try it, 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.120 they go up. And both of those guys looked good 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.359 last year in terms of physically they were impressive. But 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.520 Josh was two sixty five the year before when he 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.760 had seventeen and a half sacks and set the single 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:12.599 season franchise record. So clearly finishing was trouble last year 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.599 for him because at two eighty five he this didn't 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:15.000 feel it. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:15.400 John. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.160 As I look around the NFL, how many pass rushers 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.440 are fifteen sack guys in the two hundred. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:21.560 And eighty eighty five range? 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.120 Not many? I mean, Miles Garrett stands out as a 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.480 guy who can play fast and explosive weighing that much, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.120 but most of the rest of the guys are in 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.920 the two sixty five range. So the smile on both 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.920 Trayvon's face last week and Josh yesterday when they talked 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.000 about being able to play back down two sixty five 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.040 two seventy, I think tells the whole story. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:39.360 Yeah. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.560 Ka, it seemed like last year's philosophy was if it 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.200 ain't broke ad weight, which was. 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:45.880 They're not doing that again. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.960 I have every confidence that you will see a motivated 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.719 fit Josh Allen and Trayvon Walker and again minunderstanding is 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.880 this new regime and it takes time for new people, 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.040 even when you've heard about people to get used to it. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.520 They love what they've seen from Josh and Drama absolutely. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.599 Our final big thing today is going to be twelve 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.640 on defense. We know that track Tunner is going to 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:08.880 play both ways. Primarily he will be featured as a 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.440 wide receiver as far as open practices. So far in 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.960 OTAH we haven't seen him play defense. He has been 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.080 a part of some of the defense on different days 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.279 of OTAs, and head coach Leen Cohen talked about what 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:18.720 he's seen. 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.120 We were in the red area last on Friday and 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.799 didn't end up making any like plays on the ball, 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.640 but just the movement skills and some of the man coverages, 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.920 the feel and zone, you can definitely see how natural 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:37.400 it is for him. Still learning, still growing, still trying 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.200 to learn the calls as much as possible, but when 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.960 you see him just in the actual seven on in 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.080 team setting, A doesn't look out of place by any means. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.159 Brian, We've been able to see what he's done with 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.359 the wide receiver so far, but now hearing that you 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.000 know dB might be even more instinctual to him and 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.680 just kind of easier for him in general. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:57.880 That's good to hear as well. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.880 Well as the Jaguars drafted to him and talking to 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.359 people around the league who had studied him, his ball 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.040 skills were considered elite and everybody thought that just bent 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.440 on the defensive side, But he had four interceptions last 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.360 year for Colorado and is a guy whose ball skills 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.840 on the defensive side appear to be just as good 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.280 as the offensive side. And listen when you watch him 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.720 move right, whether it's coming off the line or breaking 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.280 off on a route or just walking out into the field. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.320 The guy just moves different than everyone around him. He 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:30.600 just has a way about him that says that everything 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:31.560 feels natural to him. 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.480 John, Yeah, they knew coming into this, based on what 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.960 they had on their conversations with him before the draft, 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:43.680 that the challenge was going to be keeping him from 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.920 overdoing it and trying they want to limit his snaps. 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.040 They knew coming in that was going to be hard 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.120 on defense. After the first couple of times seeing him, 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.160 the thought is, it's going to be even harder. He 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:59.480 wants to be doing everything and when you see him 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.680 fail the ball and make plays on the ball on defense, Uh, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.520 it's gonna be a challenge for them to not get greedy. 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:08.800 The candy jar is sitting there. 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.280 How do you keep from taking a piece out every 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.480 time you pass and go down the hallway. Uh, that's 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.800 gonna be the challenge with Travis Hunter because he wants 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:20.280 to do it, and Uh, everywhere he is, he makes 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:21.320 you that much better. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.720 So good luck keeping him off the field. 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.080 It's a good problem for the Jaguars to have. Stay 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:26.440 with us here. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:27.920 We're gonna do a deep dive into the defense and 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:29.720 tell you what is gonna be different about the team 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:38.880 this year. Today episode of Jack Van Brock you by 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:40.920 Fresh from Florida. It's always in season. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:47.520 I mean I think we have it just as well, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.520 including myself. I think just you know, being in a building, 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.160 being here, being with the guys, getting the communication from 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.400 the coach's mouth is always huge. Uh. You know, the 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:01.160 coaches have been awesome, very communicative. Uh you know, they 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.240 want to they want to get us better, they want 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.439 to be involved, they want to they want us to be. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:06.520 For each other. 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:08.400 And you can tell by the passion that to give 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.839 each and every day. Uh, you know, I love it 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.360 a group of coaches that you know, I want to 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.959 sacrifice my body for and and give it all I can. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.680 So you know, I'm excited for what for what does 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:19.440 year at Brenzos. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.040 Josh Hain's down Wighan on the new coaching staff here 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.000 in Jacksonville. Obviously, you know there was tons of offseason changes, 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:27.920 but on the defensive side of the football. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.160 We're going to focus in a little bit on that today. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.360 This is the first time we've seen Josh here for 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.079 OTAs in a while. He's taken the last two seasons off, 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:36.480 but he said it was important for him to be 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.600 here this year for a couple of different reasons, but 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:40.720 it is good to see almost one hundred percent full 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.240 buy in and that everybody's here to work with the 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:43.120 new coaching staff. 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.719 Well, he made that connection, the Kentucky connection, I think 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.040 is what he called it yesterday, having been in Kentucky 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.200 and Liam Cohen had been in Kentucky, and so there 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.640 were conversations about getting those two guys together, and and 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:55.240 the other thing that Josh talked about was short of 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.720 the evolution right his family and his time, and it 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.000 was a good year for him to be here, and 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:00.560 it was a good year for Liam to him here. 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.120 I loved when Josh was talking about Camp defensive quarter 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.800 Anthony camp Now they say he's a lot, and he 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.160 laughed in the sense that everybody who has met Anthony 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.400 Camp they would say he's a lot in the best 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.640 way possible, like this is a guy who's fiery. Trayvon 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.040 had mentioned it last week. There's a genuineness when they're 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.120 talking about it. I had Eric Armstead on the ozone 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.000 podcast and he said the same thing. They know that 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.600 Anthony Campanelli cares about them. That comes through. It's the 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.200 first thing that Anthony Campanelli talked about when I interviewed 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.960 him Ace when he first got here in January. There's 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.800 genuinous about him. Players are responding to this staff, and 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.559 I know fans out there saying, well, they respond to 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:45.959 every staff. Okay, maybe, but in this case, this feels 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.280 real and here's a real energy. I asked Armstead hey 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:53.120 about the scheme, what's different. He's like, the scheme is 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.160 pretty much the same for linemen. They've got these guys down. 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.600 They believe in what's going on. I think you're gonna 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.760 see that front be a little more like what we 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.320 hoped it would be last year when they brought Armstead in, 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.920 when they had Trayvon and Josh coming off great years. 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.000 It feels like that's ready to happen. 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:11.200 You know. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:15.120 As I watch that defense, and especially coach camp on 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.680 the field, I'm reminded of last November. Before the Packers game, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.040 both Tony Bisselli and Jeff Logman just went on and 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.600 on with how impressed they were with not just the 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.280 scheme that Green Bay ran, but the way that the 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.040 players ran it, how dialed in they were on all 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:34.960 of their assignments, and rarely did the Packers defenders make mistakes, 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.080 and they both thought it was a testament to the 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.640 coaching style and the effort. So when I watch him, 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.080 I go back to that conversation because man, it's exciting 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.079 to think that maybe this defense could be as effective 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:45.600 as that one. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:53.760 Yeah, it's interesting the way they've responded and how tight 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:58.000 knit it feels going into this. It's only June, but 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.480 you'd rather be saying that than not saying that. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.920 I always found it funny too when Josh Heinzeln said 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.520 someone's a lot, because Josh is a. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.160 Lot, right, but I mean and takes one to know one. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:11.040 Josh clarified it very quickly to say that he loved it. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.400 You know the players when you meet camp, you know 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.160 the players first reaction is going on, what what was that? 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.080 And then after a couple of days like, oh, that's 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.040 the real deal, and so it's pretty cool. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:23.520 Johnny mentioned that those one podcasts. 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.920 He talked to Eric Armstead this week, and Eric actually 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.600 cleared up some of what happened last year. Obviously, he 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.719 was playing out of position a little bit on the edge, 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.120 which he had done before but primarily had been a 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.440 defensive tackle, and he commented on kind of how that 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:35.920 came to be. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.160 You know, when they presented the plan to me, I 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.040 was like, Okay, let's let's do it if if that's 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.040 you know, the best plan that you guys see fit. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.400 And then sorely into the season when we were in London, 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.360 I went to them and I said, you know, I 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.720 don't think it's necessarily working out. You know, I feel 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.040 like I can have bigger impact on the team if 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:03.160 I'm playing more inside from you know, a better pass rusher, 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.400 and I'm on the field, you know, with Josh and 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:10.400 Trayvon and the rest of the guys, And at that time, 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.280 looking at the roster, it didn't happen, even though I 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.200 expressed that that's something that I wanted to do when 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:17.760 I thought that would be better for the team. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.760 John that was kind of a contentious situation. Obviously a 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.840 lot of stuff going on in defense last year, but 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:26.600 it does give me a little bit of hope in 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.360 terms of what we're gonna see from Eric, Arms said, 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.920 I can kind of wash some of last season away 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:32.560 in the sense of I think what we get this 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:33.640 year will be very different. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.679 Yeah, I always hesitate to say that I know what 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:43.959 happened in a situation like that, so Eric told his 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.400 side or you know, this is what he saw. And 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.079 I don't know that we'll ever know the nuances of well, 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.560 you needed to play this and we wanted you to 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.320 play this, and that's fine because we're moving on from it. 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.520 I think the interesting thing he said a couple of things. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.960 He had never really been a part time starter before, 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.160 and he's looking forward to being on the interior, starting 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:10.800 getting into the rhythm, being where he can impact it. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:16.320 And it seems like that is a path to getting 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:20.320 the most out of him. I think he can be better. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.040 He showed at times Brian when he was playing inside 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.160 that he could still be effective. I asked him he 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.960 must to play five or six more years at his age. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.200 More power to him if he can. I wonder. 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.480 How long a player of his age has for that 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.240 peak performance. What you hope for the Jaguars is he 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.040 has a couple more years where he can come together 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.200 and be what he was for what he is now, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:44.000 which is on this team. 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.000 Well, last season felt so disconnected, disjointed if you will, 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.120 because his best seasons kay in San Francisco, where he 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.160 had multiple ten plus SAX seasons. We're all on the 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.000 inside and the word that we got was he'd had 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:56.960 that knee injury at the end of the twenty twenty 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.560 three season and wanted to move outside a little bit 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.600 to maybe take some of the pressure off that so 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.640 he could play longer. But clearly he's a guy just 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.360 One of the best defenses in Jaguar's history was two 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.520 thousand and seven, and they had Marcus Stroud and John Henderson, 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:14.840 two massive bodies inside with length and power, and they 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.880 were so disruptive they made everyone's job easier. Well, if 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.920 you can imagine taking Eric Armstead at six foot seven 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.600 and putting him next to Mason Smith, who Josh Allen 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.640 told me yesterday has really looked good so far and 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.560 has worked hard this offseason, and have that kind of 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.680 of a presence on the inside, and mix into Von 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.160 Hamilton and perhaps Jordan Jefferson, You've really got a solution 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.720 to what has ailed this team on the inside. And 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.720 Armstead has the length that if he's pushing the passer 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.480 back John, he can also get his hands up and 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.320 make the passing lane shrink. That could create more opportunities 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.720 for takeaways, and we know how few of those there 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:51.440 were last year. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.000 Eric talked about, you know wanting to play more because 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.760 of the rotation style that they had last year. Josh 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.400 and Trayvon have weighed in on that as well. Cohen 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.200 talked yesterday about the importance of having a balance between 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.920 giving them some rest but also playing your best players. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.400 It's a little bit of a balance of keeping guys 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.320 fresh and wanting you know, you always hear the term 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:16.480 waves of rushers, but ultimately you've got to have your 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:20.120 best guys on the field as much as possible, and 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.720 especially in those money downs, whether it be in the 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.200 third downs, known passing situations, and in the red zone. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.520 Right So, I do think it's a balance, but ultimately, 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.160 if they're in the physical shape to be able to 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.880 do it and to play down in and down out consistently, 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.640 that will be really important for us. Those guys are 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:39.800 going to have to be in elite shape. They've done 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.680 a great job of getting to that point thus far, 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.720 and think that there are you know, on track to 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:45.320 do those things. 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.080 In this fall, we talked a little bit about their 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.720 change in physical appearance, dropping some of the weight, hopefully 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.680 playing more as much as josh Aun Zalen and Draymonk 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:54.600 Walker can be on the field. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:55.400 I would like to see that. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.920 Yeah, and we learned last year how little they liked 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:59.880 the rotation. Right, it did very long in some of 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:02.840 the pieces. You quickly figured out that they wanted to 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.800 be on the field. I would listen to them. They're 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.359 listening to their bodies. They'll know when they need a break, 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.680 and they'll do what it takes to be at their 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.480 best in the fourth quarter and in the second half 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:13.040 of the season. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.680 Yeah, you have to rotate some on the defensive line. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.880 No defensive lineman plays one hundred percent of the snaps. 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:22.080 What was curious at times last year wasn't so much 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.119 the amount, but it was the win, you know. So 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.359 and I didn't mind the defensive line rotation conceptually, but 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.960 when you had your key guys off the field and 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:35.879 the big downs, that's when eyebrows were correctly raised. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.200 Let's talk a little bit about the secondaries. Well, obviously 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:40.760 it was a huge issue for the team last year, 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.240 giving up those big plays and busted coverage. We've seen 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.960 but a lot of new additions in the secondary, a 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.040 lot of maybe position changes potentially as well. Liam Cohen 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:50.720 wade in on what he's seen from them so far. 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:54.840 Man, they've got their hands on a lot of balls 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.719 so far. I mean, just having some more vision on 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.720 the quarterback and some of the zone coverages and shoot 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.399 when we've been able to play man. It's something that 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.000 they've been doing for quite some time last year, and 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.640 so they've done a nice job. And man, I think 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.640 Tyson's done a nice job with his hands and feet 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.520 at the second and third levels. You saw him on 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.040 Tariff make a nice play again today. He's been steadying, consistent. 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.440 You know, that whole group has done a really good job. 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.640 Jordan Lewis, Jarion Jones, that whole crew of guys. It's 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:28.680 been competitive. It's been a learning curve obviously, you know, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:32.000 when you're used to playing so much man, going back 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.560 and playing a little bit of zone, as it sounds, 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.439 could be a little bit challenging based on where your 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.240 eyes are and the discipline things like that. I think 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:41.680 they've done a nice job though so far. 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.680 Johnny made a lot of what the secondary couldn't do 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.959 last year. There's a lot of new faces out there. Obviously, 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.440 Travis Hunter will be in the mix as well. Jordan Lewis, 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.639