WEBVTT - The Deric Muhammad Episode

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<v Speaker 1>Get up, Get boys. It's back and reoaded all in

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<v Speaker 1>your mind. Yeah, and that deep throating. This is for

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, the reel, the railroading, the disfranchise, the truth

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<v Speaker 1>escape building. And they ain't knowing we speak the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>so they quoted because we wrote it. The North south

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<v Speaker 1>East coat is the g be my tree, keeping your

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<v Speaker 1>head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>dropped head by. And then the system is so corrupt

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<v Speaker 1>they throw the rock out of their heads and then

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<v Speaker 1>blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on code

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<v Speaker 1>and me and danced for no furtament biscuits. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>de y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively, we are

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<v Speaker 1>to get old boys reloaded, reloaded with another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful world. In the studio, my old school mate, my homeboy,

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<v Speaker 1>and my friend, my brother, a solid father, brother, son, cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man, this active, this dude right here, and on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that, the cherry on top is he's an active.

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<v Speaker 1>He's for the people. Derek Mohammed family. Good to be here, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Look man, I'm so happy to have you. Man, you.

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<v Speaker 1>You were one of those people that that is earned,

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<v Speaker 1>not giving you. You You we came, We came from

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<v Speaker 1>the same place and we walked the same streets. We've

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<v Speaker 1>walked the same holls in school. So I know your story,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want you So y'all went to school. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years under me. I got a few

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<v Speaker 1>years under will But how many years you over me?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we all got a few years over me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we go around that same I just turned

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<v Speaker 1>fifty last year. Okay, right, yeah, but from the north

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<v Speaker 1>side of Houston, brother Derek Mohammed, I remember Willie Deep

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<v Speaker 1>back when Willie d was the local celebrity rapper. So

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<v Speaker 1>when he became famous and people in Japan and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else started knowing him, we thought they already knew him

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<v Speaker 1>because it's famous in Japan. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he is. I don't know. But but we

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<v Speaker 1>come from the same neighborhood. Everybody knows what goals on

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<v Speaker 1>in the hood in the United States of America, so

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to itemize that. But we come from

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<v Speaker 1>humble beginnings and due to our law, were living better now.

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<v Speaker 1>But we haven't forgotten where we came from. Man. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I look at you, oftentimes I see myself man,

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<v Speaker 1>and in that You've always been like a good brother,

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<v Speaker 1>had a good heart, but you had some challenges. You

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<v Speaker 1>had some challenges. I mean you you you was a

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<v Speaker 1>good dude, but you know you got caught up for

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, just like I got caught up absolutely and

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<v Speaker 1>in to see you go from uh, basically a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what. But but but to see you go from

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<v Speaker 1>that to being a giver, you know, to being a protector,

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<v Speaker 1>that's big. That's big. And to see how you dote

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<v Speaker 1>over your daughter and how that feeling is reciprocated, it's beautiful, man.

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<v Speaker 1>To see the relationship you have with your mother, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially knowing like what that relationship was like early on

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, your father died when you was eleven

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<v Speaker 1>years old. You know, your your mother about addiction similar

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<v Speaker 1>to mine. My mom bout an alcoholism, which is an addiction,

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<v Speaker 1>but your mom about a drug addiction. Man, How I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what was that like growing up and not Northeast ust

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<v Speaker 1>on an our side and you know, having to face

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<v Speaker 1>those type of challenges on a daily basis. It was rough, Will,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was all that we knew. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have some young children who say that they grow up

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<v Speaker 1>in the household, but they don't even know that they're

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<v Speaker 1>poor because they just don't know nothing else. They feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just normal. But having a mom who was

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<v Speaker 1>uh got caught up in the crack era, I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it as her being a casualty of the War

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<v Speaker 1>on drugs. It forced myself and my siblings to grow

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<v Speaker 1>up very fast. My father passing away at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of eleven forced me to grow up very very fast.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like the challenges that you face as

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<v Speaker 1>a child, they'll either defeat you or they'll make you stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that the challenges that I faced, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>those that you face that we faced, they made a

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<v Speaker 1>strong younger. And now that God has blessed us to

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<v Speaker 1>become stronger in the face of those challenges, it is

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<v Speaker 1>up to us to turn the corner, to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to where we came from, to make certain that we

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<v Speaker 1>reach your hand out to those other youngsters who are

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<v Speaker 1>going through the same challenges. I'm a firm believer that

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<v Speaker 1>you must never turn your nose up at the bridge

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<v Speaker 1>that brought you over anything. You should do what you

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<v Speaker 1>can to repair that bridge so that others who are

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<v Speaker 1>coming across the bridge can make it on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side too. So that's what I'm in the business of today,

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<v Speaker 1>my dear brother, making certain that we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to where we came from and make it

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<v Speaker 1>better for the next generation. Yeah. Share, share with the

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<v Speaker 1>audience that story you told me about your teacher who

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<v Speaker 1>who hit you on literacy? Right right? So, tenth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>I came to school and I picked up my my

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<v Speaker 1>schedule and I saw that they had me in the

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<v Speaker 1>class called journalism. At that time, I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>what the term journalism meant. So I said in the

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<v Speaker 1>class and the teacher was like, does anybody have any questions?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, what's journalism? Then she explained it to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I told her, look, don't worry about it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know too many smart children in this class. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get my schedule changed and and and so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about I ain't coming back here no more. So

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<v Speaker 1>she said, well, Mr Jackson, give me two weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>if you still want to get your schedule changed, I

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<v Speaker 1>will co sign on it. But the way you got

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<v Speaker 1>in this class is because you're English teacher from nine

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<v Speaker 1>grade recommended you because she said that you had a

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<v Speaker 1>talent for writing. So I said to her, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>hell of a thing, because I failed that class. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So what happened is she started teaching me face how

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<v Speaker 1>to do what's called feature writing. She give me a

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<v Speaker 1>subject and she said, okay, almost like probably comic songwriting.

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<v Speaker 1>And I started getting good at it. Then I started

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<v Speaker 1>liking it. Whereas at first I was hiding from my

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<v Speaker 1>friends that I was in this journalism class because it

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<v Speaker 1>sounded nerdy. Now I'm out with it, like, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take this journalism thing to the next level. So

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<v Speaker 1>she started, um not at the time, my mother was

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<v Speaker 1>in the throes of her drug addiction and we hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>seen her for weeks. So it was myself and my

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<v Speaker 1>brother pretty much living on our own, uh, surviving how

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<v Speaker 1>we could, and you know, going to school when we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to. That kind of thing. Well, she knew what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, what was going on in my household. She

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<v Speaker 1>knew I was fifteen with grown folks problems, and anytime

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<v Speaker 1>there was some kind of competition or whatever, she would

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<v Speaker 1>come pick me up. She would bring me food, she

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<v Speaker 1>would give me money. So she as a teacher, unbeknownst

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<v Speaker 1>to me, became the mother figure that I needed at

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<v Speaker 1>a time when my mother was not in a position

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<v Speaker 1>to be a mother. What I'm saying. So she entered

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<v Speaker 1>some of my writings into a competition, and I basically

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<v Speaker 1>just did it for her, because this is what she

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<v Speaker 1>did to me. She would give me something and I

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<v Speaker 1>would write, and I would bring it back to her

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<v Speaker 1>for her to grade it, and she would say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay, Mr Jackson, but I think you could do better.

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<v Speaker 1>Back then my last name was Jackson. Then I do

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<v Speaker 1>better and give it back to her, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>would go crazy. She would go that's what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>She would take a small thing that I did and

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<v Speaker 1>she would make it big. Right. That was her way

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<v Speaker 1>of giving me confidence. So she entered my writing into

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<v Speaker 1>this competition. By this time, I was living with my grandmother.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandmother had come and got us in. We were

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<v Speaker 1>living there. So my grandmother was like Derek, Ms. Leonard's

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone. I called, I mean, I picked up

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<v Speaker 1>the phone and she started screaming, and I'm like, miss Leonard,

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<v Speaker 1>what's wrong? She said, you got second place? You got

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<v Speaker 1>second place? I told you you could do it. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was the first time that I had ever competed

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<v Speaker 1>against white children in anything. But she had put such

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<v Speaker 1>a battery in my back that any self doubt that

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<v Speaker 1>I had in myself and thinking that I couldn't compete

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<v Speaker 1>with these white children, it was already gone. So I

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<v Speaker 1>tell that story just to illustrate the power of one teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>of how the or the power of one mentor the

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<v Speaker 1>power of how one individual can impact a child's life.

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<v Speaker 1>And they never forget it. Now, this was thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still talking about that to this day, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But she but I made it to State as a writer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about coming out of homestead village projects and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>she picked me up to take me to the competition,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, Derek, she said, don't you go a

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<v Speaker 1>hand up. These rich white kids intimidate you. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>you are the best sixteen year old writer on the

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<v Speaker 1>planet Earth when you focused. That's the kind of batteries

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<v Speaker 1>she used to put in my back. So I competed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember getting up from that death saying there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing in this room that's gonna be able to compete

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<v Speaker 1>with what I wrote. Well, she called me just like

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<v Speaker 1>she did the first time, and said, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my grandmother was saying, brother dere Derek ms Lennar is

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone. So I pick up the phone and

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<v Speaker 1>she's on the phone crying. I'm like, what's wrong, miss Leonard?

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<v Speaker 1>She said, they robbed you. I say, what do you mean? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the rule said that you have to write a story

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<v Speaker 1>that's four hundred words long or less less. Mine was

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and five words, so I did too much.

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<v Speaker 1>But she used to judge those competitions, and she said

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<v Speaker 1>that she never seen where they disqualified somebody for writing

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<v Speaker 1>too many words. It was my first time experiencing systematic

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<v Speaker 1>racism directly. We all experienced it indirectly, but directly, it

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<v Speaker 1>was my first time being cheated out of something right now.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest with you, I really didn't care. I

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<v Speaker 1>was more there for her than I was for me,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was there to prove her right. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the negative things that I have been that

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<v Speaker 1>had been said to me about myself as a little

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<v Speaker 1>black boy growing up in the hood, she was saying

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<v Speaker 1>something different. She was feeding the kid. Get me why

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else was telling me you ain't gonna be nothing

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<v Speaker 1>in life. So I had to prove her right. And

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<v Speaker 1>so even though they robbed me of that competition, the

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<v Speaker 1>battery that she put in my back thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still in my back today. So I can walk

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<v Speaker 1>in any room and never feel intimidated, never feel less than,

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<v Speaker 1>never feel as if though I'm not on anybody else's level,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who's in that room. Have you had the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to tell this yes, yes, because he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>know that. Yes. I wrote about her in my book.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, what's that book? It's called New Rules. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be out in a month. But I called her and

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<v Speaker 1>I told her, and I let her know we actually

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<v Speaker 1>maintained contact all the way up until the time she

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<v Speaker 1>passed away. She passed away in but that year before

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<v Speaker 1>she passed away, some months before she passed away, I

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<v Speaker 1>was on an airplane on my way to Nevada for

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday. I was gonna spend my birthday up in

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains in Nevada, And as I was writing about

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<v Speaker 1>her in the book, I just started crying. Bro Because

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until then, thirty years later, that I realized, Damn, God,

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<v Speaker 1>use this lady to save my life. M and when

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<v Speaker 1>I got off that plane, I called it and and I

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<v Speaker 1>let her know, but because it was we were going

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<v Speaker 1>through COVID protocols, I said, Man, I'm gonna go and

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<v Speaker 1>see her, but I'm gonna wait till things cooled down

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<v Speaker 1>with COVID. Well, a couple of months later, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a phone call from her nephew telling me that she

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<v Speaker 1>passed away. But I want to say that to anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who might be listening, if you have somebody that has

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<v Speaker 1>made a difference in your life like that, don't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to go and see them, to let them know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is that they they've done for you, because tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>is not promised. Absolutely, But that's the power of one mentor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a hell of a story, man, And that is

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful story, you know, speaking of passing away. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know Virgin died. Um the owner of Sunshine. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know he died. Oh Man, I that

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<v Speaker 1>that was a good dude and super good. Yeah. May

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<v Speaker 1>God be pleased contributed speaking to pass And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if people know, but my grandmother, that's on the

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<v Speaker 1>My Homies album. She passed win Um June June six,

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<v Speaker 1>She passed, were buried on the eleven. Oh man, my condolences,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all good man. She put up ninety for me

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<v Speaker 1>and she don't owe me nothing. My grandmother passed back

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<v Speaker 1>in October. Um, she put up ninety three years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she don't owe you nothing. I got fifty one and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one years and that was beautiful, Yell the fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>And you talk about people, um that were inspirational in

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<v Speaker 1>your your upbring you know, and you being who being

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<v Speaker 1>the person that you are. You know, I shared that

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<v Speaker 1>same sentiment with my grandmother, you know. She she she

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<v Speaker 1>gave me some stuff that I can take with me

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of my life and pass on to

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<v Speaker 1>my shieldren that they can pass on it there. So

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<v Speaker 1>I understand what you're saying when you talk about people

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<v Speaker 1>that that just a big impact on your life. As

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<v Speaker 1>well as teachers too. You know, teachers played a huge

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<v Speaker 1>role in me being you know who I am today.

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<v Speaker 1>I started this is funny. I started. The way I

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<v Speaker 1>started rapping was through limbricks. You ever heard of a

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<v Speaker 1>limerick And it's like there was was a man from

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<v Speaker 1>Nantucket who used to sit on the bucket. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>how I learned how to wrap and I just mastered

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<v Speaker 1>that and got really really good Willie And it's real

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<v Speaker 1>though it is Man, something so simple turn can turn

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<v Speaker 1>you into an animal. You know, something so simple as

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<v Speaker 1>journalism can turn you into an animal. Like you know journalism,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how to put words together, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>to stand in front of a group of people, man,

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<v Speaker 1>and express yourself to them about the importance of what

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<v Speaker 1>it is you're trying to get across. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like, that's heavy, man, that's heavy boys. Reloted

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<v Speaker 1>podcast will be right back after the poet. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>still working with the Mail's Office? Uh? Indirectly sometimes sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you put a lot of work in man, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>that Blackmail Summit. Yes, sir, Yes sir. The Blackmail Summit

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<v Speaker 1>is my baby. The black Mail Summit is the most

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<v Speaker 1>important project that I've ever worked on, and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>most important project that I will ever work on. What

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<v Speaker 1>is the black Mail something? The Blackmail Summit is a

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<v Speaker 1>summit that we host twice a year, once on the

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<v Speaker 1>North Side and once on the South Side, where we

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<v Speaker 1>bring in and young brothers from the hood and their

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<v Speaker 1>parents and we focus strictly on the issues that black

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<v Speaker 1>males face America. If anything, let start to cut you off,

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<v Speaker 1>but name some of those issues that um played the

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<v Speaker 1>black male in America. The fact that your average black

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<v Speaker 1>male functions at a reading level of second grade, that's

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<v Speaker 1>an issue, the aversh black male? What what? Age? Just period?

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<v Speaker 1>That's not true because women can read this ass off.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to his words. Second grade second the average

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<v Speaker 1>second first of all, second grade reading level is actually comprehensive.

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<v Speaker 1>That don't mean you can't read? But yes, sir, what

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<v Speaker 1>does what does? What does can't read mean? Though? What

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? Can't read? Like camp? That's not true?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, come on, man, that's not most mostly, most

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<v Speaker 1>of your high school graduates, even if they can read,

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<v Speaker 1>they graduate as functional illiterates. A functional illiterate is someone

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<v Speaker 1>who can read and call words, but they can't get

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<v Speaker 1>a grasp on the concept of what it is that

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<v Speaker 1>they're reading. And you have to also remember that for

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and three hundred plus years it was against

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<v Speaker 1>the law for us to learn how to read. So

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<v Speaker 1>reading and writing are actually two lost arts people. So my, my,

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<v Speaker 1>my uh first grade teacher, her name was Ms. Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had a thing on her board on our chalkboard,

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<v Speaker 1>and it says, understanding what you've read, Understanding what you've read,

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<v Speaker 1>what that is? That like a form of of illiteracy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you cannot understand what it is, it's called functional illiteracy.

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<v Speaker 1>When you can, you can call. You can read the words,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't it doesn't make sense. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>read the words very well, but you don't understand what.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then you have to also understand face

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<v Speaker 1>that of what we're reading is culturally irrelevant to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Meaning we're reading. We can read it, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really interested in what the hell George Washington did as

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<v Speaker 1>far as as far as I'm concerned, George Washington was

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<v Speaker 1>a slave owner. He sold a slave for a kid

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<v Speaker 1>of molasses. So these are things that if if if

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<v Speaker 1>you put this in front of me, it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in because I see myself in it. But

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<v Speaker 1>most of what our young boys are force fed in

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<v Speaker 1>public schools, they don't see themselves in it. What happened

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<v Speaker 1>on August second and this year August second nd, According

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<v Speaker 1>to this calendar, North Carolina voters overwhelmingly approved amendment to

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<v Speaker 1>disenfranchise African Americans as part of a statewide campaign to

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<v Speaker 1>intimidate black registered voters. What does that mean? That means

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<v Speaker 1>that what was going on? Then it's still going on

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<v Speaker 1>right now? That's heavy, man. This is a catalog, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>a history of racial injustice exactly. And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>type of information that we have to feed to our

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<v Speaker 1>children because that's the only type of information that we

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<v Speaker 1>can that we're interested in. Well, it's the type of

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<v Speaker 1>information that matters. Man, knowledge of self is It's like

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<v Speaker 1>the motor in side of a car, right, you could

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<v Speaker 1>you could have you could have the body of the car,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you don't have the engine, it can't go nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have no desire to study Abraham Lincoln whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't. Then we're going and talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>Journal Truth or Dred Scott or Path Singleton and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, Like I'm interested in those people. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about uh uh the Haze Tilling acting all

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<v Speaker 1>that crap, I don't give a damn about that. Man. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that we really need to know is

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<v Speaker 1>who they were period Haying Now I'm talking about our

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Jack's all them, Who the who the hell they

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<v Speaker 1>were heroes to us? Because from that we know what

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<v Speaker 1>they did. Right, there's a there's an African proverb that says,

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<v Speaker 1>when a child does not feel the love of the village,

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<v Speaker 1>they will burn it down in order to feel it's warmth.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's heavy, it's very heavy because what it does

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<v Speaker 1>is explains that it explains the behavior of our children,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly black boys. See, we've given birth to soldiers, but

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.400
<v Speaker 1>we have not given them anything to fight for. When

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<v Speaker 1>we integrated black businesses into white businesses, and black businesses

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<v Speaker 1>got eradicated while white businesses took off. What we did

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<v Speaker 1>is we gave birth to a generation of soldiers, but

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<v Speaker 1>what they were born to protect, we've integrated it into

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<v Speaker 1>white society. So so they're angry. They're angry, my dear brother,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, think about this. Right, when we came

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<v Speaker 1>up in the eighties, you could drive down one street

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<v Speaker 1>and you could see three different football games going on

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. We are playing tackle football. They

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<v Speaker 1>did a study with lab rats and they said that

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<v Speaker 1>after a lab rat is finished eating, it will actually

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<v Speaker 1>do more work in order to enter into another space

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<v Speaker 1>where there's another juvenile male lab rats so they can play.

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<v Speaker 1>So to play, it's something that's natural for juvenile males.

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<v Speaker 1>So why is it today that we can drive down

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<v Speaker 1>the same streets and ain't nobody outside playing. It's because

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<v Speaker 1>we've traded tackle football for grand theft, auto Fortnite Freeze

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<v Speaker 1>tag for Fortnite hot Ball. Remember we used to play

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<v Speaker 1>hot ball roadblocks. Yeah, so that's taxes, mask letting toxic.

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<v Speaker 1>But what what not anything with black black, anything with

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<v Speaker 1>men doing something aggressive, it's toxic, toxic. But but but

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, but the thing about it is these video games,

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<v Speaker 1>the type of it. It's not just that they're playing

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<v Speaker 1>video games, but these violent video games that they're playing,

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<v Speaker 1>they're militarizing our young boys before they reached the age

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<v Speaker 1>of puberty. Yeah, but that's not our young boys. They're

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<v Speaker 1>militarizing their young boys because we ain't. We're not. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not walking up the street with with Well, I'm lying.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about what you're saying, Think about what you're saying. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they're militarizing walking up the streets now with with with,

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<v Speaker 1>with with, But we're militarized for self destruction. They're militarized

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<v Speaker 1>for something else. And what exactly what they're doing is

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 1>is they're sending in militarized police officers to deal without

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<v Speaker 1>militarized young boys. But but what I'm saying is the

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<v Speaker 1>scientist got it down. Pat. If you can affect the

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<v Speaker 1>way they play as little boys, then you can affect

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<v Speaker 1>how they end up as grown men. Think, think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about it. If if you see a youngster every

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<v Speaker 1>single day he got a basketball in his hand, he

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<v Speaker 1>has a better chance of ended up in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>You see a youngster with a football in his hand

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<v Speaker 1>every day, he has a better chance to ended up

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Right if you see if you see

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<v Speaker 1>a youngster playing grand theft auto ten twelve times, ten

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hours a day and that's all he do, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna impact where he ends up as a man. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why Frederick Douglas said that it is easier to

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<v Speaker 1>trained strong boys than it is to repair broken men.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to catch them while they're young if we

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<v Speaker 1>want to save them. Uh, which is a great segue

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<v Speaker 1>into the documentary you produced Raising Boys? Tips for Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Single moms, sir? What are some tips for single moms

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<v Speaker 1>and raising boys in this climate? Yes, shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>all of the single mothers out there who are being

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<v Speaker 1>forced to raise their young boys on their own and

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a slight against the fathers. But if the

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<v Speaker 1>statistics are worth their salt, they say that sevent the

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<v Speaker 1>homes in our community are headed by females. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>there will be times when that father is not there.

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<v Speaker 1>But some of the things that a single mom has

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<v Speaker 1>to do first and foremost is she gotta she has

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<v Speaker 1>to be realistic about what she's what she's in. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do your research and understand what that boy is

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<v Speaker 1>facing as a black male in America, and you cannot

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.359
<v Speaker 1>sugarcoat it for him. The worst thing you can do

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<v Speaker 1>is keep him on the breast too long, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a such thing as doing too much for your child. See,

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<v Speaker 1>you might see him as your baby boy, And but

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<v Speaker 1>if he goes out and every time he gets in trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>you come and you save him, at some point he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get into something you can't get him out of.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he stands before that judge, that judge is

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna see him as your baby boy. That judge

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<v Speaker 1>is going to see him as a grown man. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't give me twelve years old. And when little boys

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<v Speaker 1>commit grown man crimes, they do grown man time. Another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that all parents should do is. No matter what

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<v Speaker 1>it is that your child asked for, if he's a boy, especially,

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<v Speaker 1>you make him work for it. If he asked you

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<v Speaker 1>for them Jordan's and you know you want to bomb

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<v Speaker 1>for him anyway, you make him go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>cut the grass, rape the leaves, sweep the roof. Hell,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but make him do something, because what

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.360
<v Speaker 1>you're doing is you're establishing in him work ethic. You're

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<v Speaker 1>letting him know that you're not gonna be given anything

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 1>in this world for free. If you don't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you send him out in the world with an unrealistic

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<v Speaker 1>expectation that somebody owes him something, and he'll end up

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<v Speaker 1>in prison wondering what happened. It'll hit him so fast

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>he won't know what happened to him. So those are

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<v Speaker 1>some tips that we give to single moms. But another

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>very important one is you know you have to study

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>your child's father. I don't care how you feel about him,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta study him because if you study your child's

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<v Speaker 1>father unemotionally, you will see in him your son's strengths

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and weaknesses. Whatever those strength so are, you feed those strengths,

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever those weaknesses are. You do your best to try

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>to protect them from those weaknesses. But don't become so

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<v Speaker 1>overemotionally disappointed in the father to where you're not paying attention.

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 1>You think you got rid of him, but you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You're dealing with him in that child. And the same

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<v Speaker 1>goals for single fathers. Um, we have to be systematic

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<v Speaker 1>about this thing. Talk about the risk and coddling boys

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>when let's say they have a father who has a

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>colorful background. Colorful background, maybe they've been in some trouble

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>with the law or something right, or they haven't done

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>so well, you know, as a man, and they haven't

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>lived up to manly expectations, you know, being a provider

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and and and protect her and all of this. What

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<v Speaker 1>if he just can't deal with that bitch difference. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>stay on track here. So what what would be the

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<v Speaker 1>advice to like a woman who tries to over overcompensate

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>for uh, to make sure that her son don't turn

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>out like her, like his dad. She overcompensates and she

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>coddles him. And now instead of raising a boy to

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>be a man, she's raising the boy to be more

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>like a woman. You know, because I've seen dudes get

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>coddled and they argue with their mothers like their mothers

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>it's their girlfriends or something. You know, they won't like

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you was talking about, uh, rewarding them for working, putting

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the work in. I know boys that don't do any chores.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>This ship was unheard of when I was growing up.

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>They don't mot the yard. They they don't clean their room,

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and they don't have any kind of side job or anything.

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>They don't do anything but stick their hand out and

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>taking from their mom. And their mom was set up

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and argue with them like they're there boyfriend or something. Yeah,

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I see all the time. Will and most mothers who

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>coddle as you said their sons end up regretting it later.

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>See the young black male in America is what I

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>call over mothered and under fathered. Over mothered and underfathered

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>both our problem. See, when God brings you into the world,

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>he gives you two of everything, two eyes to see,

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>two nostros to breathe, two ears. He gives you two

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of everything. And let's say it gives you two eyes.

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>If you lose one of those eyes, you're considered handicap.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>So every child that is born into the world has

0:30:55.400 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>a human right to two parents, both mother and father. Okay,

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>if the relationship between mother and father does not work

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>out for whatever reason, that father, if you keep that

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>child from his mother, as long as the mother is

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>not hurting that child, you're handicapping your child. And as

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>a mother, if you keep that child away from his father,

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>as long as the father is not hurting that child,

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you're handicapping your child. The child is the one who suffers.

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>So as a mother, you have to understand the nature

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of a boy, all right. The nature of the male

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>is it's about establishing dominance at every chapter in your life.

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.239
<v Speaker 1>That that's it. That's that's what boys do when we

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>go outside. It's about who could slapbox the slap box

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the best, Who can fight the best, who could play

0:31:55.720 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>basketball the best. It's about establishing dominance. And if he

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>does not have a strong male in his life to

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>teach him how to manage that, then what will happen

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>is he'll end up veering off the road of life

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and you won't know what the hell to do with him.

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I had a partner who um he his his child's

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>mother got into another relationship, right, and he didn't want

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the man around his children, so he called over there,

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and he he threatened her and all this other kind

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, right, which she shouldn't have done. All of that.

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>What she recorded him and told him, now I got

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>you that he was on probation at the time. She

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>recorded him and said, if you come around my children again,

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>those were his children too, I am going to call

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>your probation office. So now he's in the bind, acting fold.

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>But now he can't even see his children. So this

0:32:55.840 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>brother went almost ten years without seeing his children. But

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>one day his children's mom came looking for him. She

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>came looking for him because the boy had gotten out

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.959
<v Speaker 1>of control, didn't know what to do with him, and

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>he had to step in. Most mothers who do that

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>regret it in the end. So to the single mothers

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>out there, if you if you keep your son away

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>from his father, you're not hurting anybody but your son.

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>And this is the part that's heartbreaking. But I gotta

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>say it, since we only get old boys that you

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<v Speaker 1>reloaded the podcast, the sons usually end up hating their mothers,

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the one that does everything for him. They end up hating.

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm talking about hatred because years old, mom is

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>still doing everything for you. You still sleeping on her couch.

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Subconsciously you blame her for you not being the man.

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>It's really your fault, but subconsciously you blame her. And

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of single mothers who take abuse

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>from their sons after they've given them everything, because the

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>sun grew up to hate them. You the reason I

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>don't have a relationship with my daddy. So don't do that. Sisters,

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 1>You're only hurting your sons, and you're creating a scenario

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 1>where he may grow up to hate you. I hate

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to say it, but it's true. I see it every day.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>That would also have some effect on their relationships with

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>other women. You know, I would think that if you

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>have such a low opinion of your mother, you can't

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>have a high opinion of women. Facts. Facts, yes, sir, facts.

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Exclamation point. Girl Boylo podcast will be right back after

0:34:56.040 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the point. Let's talk about Savior Day two thousand twenty two,

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest greatest days in the history of civilization.

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Lewis Farrakon, Honorable Lewis Farrakhan spoke back in February and

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>a speech that was called the Swan Song. Some people

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>were saying that that was supposed to be his final

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 1>official speech for the Nation of Islam. How true is that?

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>To be honest with you, will I don't know. I

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:42.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Um Face said he just lost his grandmother.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.800
<v Speaker 1>You never know when the time is going to come

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 1>for the day of your departure. But when the minister

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>explained the Swan song, he was basically saying that this

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>is not necessarily my swan song. And for those who

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>don't understand, the swan song is the beautiful song that

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 1>a swan sings before he dies. The ministers saying, we're

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>saying that this is really America's swan song because if

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:20.800
<v Speaker 1>she continues down the road of denying black people justice,

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:25.359
<v Speaker 1>her end is near. So this is the swan song

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>for those who refuse to heed to the truth. This

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 1>is the swan song for those who refused to cast

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 1>off false ideas and concepts. This is the swan song

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>for those who continue to, you know, keep their foot

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>on the next of the oppressed. That's the way he

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>explained that what's the what's the what's the repercussion from

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>from what? From keeping your feet on black people's neck?

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>What we're going to do, That's a very good question.

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>That's what we're gonna do more. I'm sorry keeping you

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>keeping their feet on out. The next we're gonna get up.

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go march some more. We're gonna go and

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>congregate some more. Um We're gonna do We're gonna go

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to war because I think that. I think that in

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>the um, in the society, in the country that only

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>understands um brutality and war, brutality and war like the

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 1>only like you. You. You you're not afraid of nobody

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.399
<v Speaker 1>standing up in front of your householding no sign. You're

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>afraid of somebody walking in your house and beating you

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the funk up or killing you. See. I sound sucked

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>up like that, like I'm not gonna. I don't. I don't.

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>I ain't down, like I ain't down with that ship.

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>If you if, if, if we're really really tired of it,

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>then let's going on and crank this ship up. Man.

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk to no motherfucking no if

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.839
<v Speaker 1>if his own, then his own. If it's not, we're

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>just gonna stay where the funk we yet, you know

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.479
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Like I don't, I don't. I'm tired

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>of my fucker spoon feeding me. Man. Oh you want

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to vote again. Uh, let me take you to the Senate.

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh let me tell you to congress. Uh. You niggas

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>want to eat food, and uh let me let me

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>let me see if they want to, let you'll eat.

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's the whole ass ship to me, Like, man,

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 1>if you don't, let me, if you don't, if you

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>if you want if, if you're gonna let me be

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a motherfucking man, let me be a man, bro you know,

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>but they don't. They don't have the power to let you.

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:30.880
<v Speaker 1>They're having the power. Now. Your power is within within

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>within Like nobody I asked for permission from nobody to

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>be a man, like, can't nobody give me permission or

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>let me be an I'm a man, period, and I'm

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna carry myself like a man. And anybody got a

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 1>problem with it, Uh, I'm gonna deal with it. It's

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:49.320
<v Speaker 1>as simple as that. Yeah. So, so anybody don't feel

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>like that. Black people, we may feel like man, But

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>what what has happened to us as a manly is

0:38:56.000 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 1>we got caught up in the illusion of inclusion to

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>too many of us. Too many of us have gotten

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>too comfortable and so in order for us to get

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>into that that war mindset that you're talking about. A

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>line has to be drawn in the scene and everybody

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:15.959
<v Speaker 1>got to be down with. Everybody got to stand behind

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that line. Unfortunately, you're not gonna get everybody, but we

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>needed it is. But there's no war where they're not casualties,

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:26.879
<v Speaker 1>but we need a critical mass. I don't know how

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>many more casualties we need, brother Mohammed. I don't even

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>we got we got we got more casualties, and we

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 1>can count starting back from the from the eighteen seventeen hunters.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>It's all in this book right here, all in this calendar.

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Every day. We ain't got eighteen sixty six Texas Texas

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 1>passing law providing and black people cannot testify in court

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>unless the defendant is black, you know, like that kind

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 1>of ship, you know what I mean? Like, well, we

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 1>we we have to begin to see it for what

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 1>it is, dear brother, And that is that I think

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was W. E. D. B. B. Two

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>boys who said that a system cannot fail a people

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>that was not built to give them justice in the

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>first place. And the problem is we keep trying to

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:22.760
<v Speaker 1>force ourselves on a people at all week we're begging

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>for justice, um from a people who don't even have

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>it to give to themselves. We're begging for jobs from

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:38.439
<v Speaker 1>a people who don't have enough jobs for themselves. See but, but, but,

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>but the black man listen to me, But the black

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 1>man in America is like a seven footman that's drowning

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:50.399
<v Speaker 1>in four ft of water break. All he gotta do

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>is stand up. All he gotta do is stand up

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>to save himself. Like, well, I'm saying, we we got

0:40:56.960 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>we have everything that we need in order to become

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a nation within the nation. We got the intellect. Don't

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 1>tell me we ain't got the money. With one point

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>three three trillion dollars in spending power, but who are

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.479
<v Speaker 1>we're spending it with? And you're talking about the war.

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 1>That's where the war is right there. The war is economic,

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.879
<v Speaker 1>the war is political, the war is educational, the war

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 1>is cultural. That's where the war is. But we have

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:29.959
<v Speaker 1>to first give up this assine idea that the American

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 1>dream is somehow for black people. It never was, it

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 1>is not now, and it never will be so until

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 1>we come to that come to Jesus meeting that we

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 1>all got to have with ourselves and realize that we

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:51.919
<v Speaker 1>all we got, then we're gonna continue to suffer. See,

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.280
<v Speaker 1>our ancestor showed us a blueprint of it with Black

0:41:55.320 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Wall Street. That was just a microcosm. How do we

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 1>do to Black Wall Street? Man? Listen, I'm gonna tell you,

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 1>like you said, we got the money, we got the intellect,

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.760
<v Speaker 1>we even got the knowledge. We don't have I believe

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 1>how the will. We don't have the we don't have

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the unity, and we have to be honest. But let

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 1>me let me clear up before before I let you

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 1>go any further, just collectively, we don't have the will.

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Because there's a lot of black people out there doing

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 1>great things. I don't want to discount what you guys

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 1>are doing. They're doing phenomenal things and that they're they're

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>building industries, they're taking they're taking on buying in the industries,

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>they're hiring black people, they're creating jobs, they're producing. So

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>shots out to all you guys out that it's putting

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 1>in the world. But we but we have to do

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 1>that with them with independence in mind. You understand what

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, and there is a difference. You know, there's

0:42:56.920 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>a story about the old hound dog who was laying

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>on the porch laying on the rusty nail, and the

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 1>neighbor came over, an access owner. He said, Man, I

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.959
<v Speaker 1>see that hound dog over that laying on that rusty nail.

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Why don't he move? He said, I don't know. He said,

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>either he too lazy to move, or it just don't

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>hurt enough. And in my humble opinion, that's an analogy

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>for us as a people like bro Listen, were out,

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>We're out protesting in front of sessing Me Place because

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:45.760
<v Speaker 1>sessing Me Place is discriminating against black children. Listen, man, listen,

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>what more do we need to see? That's that's white

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 1>folks saying that. What more do you need to see?

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Because if if we are passing over the black children

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>sessing Me Street, you're already preempting them and indoctrinating them

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>and letting them know that you live in racist America.

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Let me prepare you for this before you even get

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>in the second grade. What more do we need to see? Damn,

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the nail just don't hurt enough. Either we're too lazy. Oh,

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 1>it just don't hurt enough. Now, it can't be the laziness.

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Black people are not lazy. You know why black people?

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how. I know black people ain't lazy.

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Who built damn country for nothing, so it can't be

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the laziness. But I guess it don't hurt enough. Bro.

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>It hurt me. It hurt me. Bro. We're three for

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:58.839
<v Speaker 1>three years up from when Nipsey Hustle got killed. I

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:01.799
<v Speaker 1>just can't. I still can't and get beyond it. It's

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 1>still got me messed up like that still physically hurts

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>me that that black man who was that special. So

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you got the smart ones, you got the talented ones,

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, but you got something that that's the special ones.

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 1>He was a special one. Nipsey was everything that we

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 1>say we want to be. He's everything that we we

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>we we we say that what we need to be. Yeah,

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:31.399
<v Speaker 1>he was that. He embodied that. And when when I

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>found man, when I was reading the headline, I was

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 1>on the internet and I saw the headline and said, uh,

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 1>popular rapper killed. I thought it was another one of

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>these little youngsters. And and then I I saw a

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>nips man, I saw a Nipsey name. Man, I just

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 1>my heart just dropped, and I can't believe somebody would

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 1>kill Nipsey Hustle like but but you know that but

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>but but and we we know that their their their

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>details to it. But what for what? And and and

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.240
<v Speaker 1>last week I was telling somebody this the other day,

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I actually said this at the Blackmail summit. And listen

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:15.399
<v Speaker 1>to me. I saw where Nipsey's killer, Eric Holder got

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>convicted for murder. Yeah, you got convicted for first degree

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 1>murder a few weeks ago. And I asked myself the question.

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I said to myself, he probably don't even care. You

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 1>know why, because at least people know my name. At

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>least I'm famous. Now, nah, it's gonna be bad. At

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>least I'm famous. Listen, let me tell you something, somebody,

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>But they don't care. That's what I'm saying. Somebody, some

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:50.359
<v Speaker 1>of these youngsters, some of these youngsters out here, they

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>would rather be somebody on the front of a T

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>shirt then to be nobody walking around in real life.

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. But okay, I don't either. I

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.839
<v Speaker 1>don't either. But that's how bad. That's how bad it is.

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Like they say that this brother killed Nipsey because Nipsey

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 1>made him feely relevant or something like that. But this

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 1>whole idea of cloud chasing, it is out of control,

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.800
<v Speaker 1>is out of control. But that still hurts me to

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 1>see how that brother lost his life and just to

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 1>think just in three years, there's no telling how much

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 1>further he would have been in his career and in

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 1>doing for his community. That's just one example. But the

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 1>point that I'm making is I can't be the hound

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 1>dog on the porch. I can't even I wish it

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.239
<v Speaker 1>was a way. I wish it was a way that

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>we can get I wish it was a way that

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>we can get with everybody and get us all together man,

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:57.919
<v Speaker 1>and we all have a task at hand to complete. Man,

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>that that could better the situation and for us, and

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and and the ones that come behind us, you know

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Like, I really think that that that

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:10.959
<v Speaker 1>example should be set right now by us again, Brad,

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that that is happening in some sectors that we need

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>to put it all together with. But going back to

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 1>what what Derek said, this ain't for everybody. Every We

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>can't take everybody. Everybody's gonna make it. Everybody just ain't

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna make Some people don't even want to make it.

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Some people listen to what we're saying right now, they

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 1>look at them talk about getting together and ship My mother,

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I hate the motherfucker. Who are you talking about? Talking

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:40.959
<v Speaker 1>about the girl? I'm talking about Nicholes. You know they listen,

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.399
<v Speaker 1>they're watching right now. They're looking, They're like, I can't

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 1>they can't stand it. Get together? What you talking about? Unit? Man?

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 1>This is it? Man, I'm I ain't ship. Can you

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 1>imagine together that? How many with one point three trillion? Know?

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>What is it? Yeah? One point three three trillion one

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 1>something something? People bread are just built that way, man,

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:06.359
<v Speaker 1>because intrinsically that's who they are. That's that's just who

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that That's that's who they are. You know, it's some

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>some people, man, Like we we're not gonna be able

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 1>to take everybody with us, and we gotta be okay

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:19.839
<v Speaker 1>with that. And like we gotta be okay with like

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 1>if it went down for real, Like we gotta be

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>okay with Harriet mentality, kill a field. Yeah, you know

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. You know, we we we gotta be

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 1>okay with that because the motherfucker's just holding us back

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and so we we can't we we can't let anybody

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 1>jump on the boat that would try to poke a

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 1>hole at it in the boat. You know the problem

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 1>is we have to be clear on the goal. We

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>have to be clear on the objective. We have to

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 1>be clear on what it is that we're trying to

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:57.319
<v Speaker 1>accomplish as a people. In the sixties. In the sixties,

0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>they were clear that they were trying to accompl the

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:05.839
<v Speaker 1>social experiment called integration, which has not worked. That has

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 1>not worked, But they were organized in every state on

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>many levels, trying to integrate. We want to eat in

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the same restaurants as white people and tallest listen. Not

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>only not only do I agree that it was a

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 1>big mistake. Statistics bear witness that it was a total mistake.

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>But what if integration was the goal back then and

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 1>they knew, okay, we got one common goal, let's work

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:41.399
<v Speaker 1>toward it. What's the goal right now? If we don't

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 1>establish that, then we don't know what we're organizing behind.

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:52.319
<v Speaker 1>The Honorable Elijah Mohammed said decades ago, even while they

0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 1>were fighting for integration, that we should be fighting for

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 1>what is called separation. We should have a separate system

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>where we our children, a separate economy, where we determine

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the value of our own homes and the value of

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 1>our own business is not depending on white people. Yeah,

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 1>think about think about this right, Okay. Before South Park

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 1>became black, it was white. Third War was white, White,

0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Scenic was white, okay, and the property value in that

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>neighborhood was it was high. Then integration came into play.

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Our people start moving from Kendleton and all of these

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:41.000
<v Speaker 1>little small black towns into these neighborhoods right right, soon

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.319
<v Speaker 1>as we as soon as we moved in, white folks

0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 1>started moving out. They call it what white flight, okay,

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 1>white flights. So then white folk moved to Missouri City.

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Then black folks moved to Missouri City, then they moved

0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to Sugar and then we started moving. Then they got

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:02.799
<v Speaker 1>tired of running, they come back. But now, initially in

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>the sixties, when white folks start moving out of those neighborhoods,

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:10.440
<v Speaker 1>they say the property value went down. Okay, we black

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 1>folk move in, white folk move out, property value go down.

0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 1>So in Third Ward the property value has been low

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>for decades. When white folks decided to move back into

0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the hood, I would it's skyrockets. So what are they

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 1>telling you. They're telling you that the presence of white

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 1>people is what determines value in this country. How the

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:34.640
<v Speaker 1>hell are we supposed to win under a system like that.

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 1>So you're absolutely correct, but it's it's important that we

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:42.799
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that just because white people live somewhere, I don't

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 1>mean that something is more valuable. And and it's what

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like in these neighborhoods, Well, the reason why

0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:54.439
<v Speaker 1>the property value go down not because black people move

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 1>in and white people move out. It is because the

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>politicians and the business people make a conscious decision to

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>stop investing in those neighborhoods. And that's what drives the

0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 1>property value down. Because if you if the politicians continue

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:16.400
<v Speaker 1>to allocate funds directed into those communities to make sure

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 1>that the streets are maintained, the parks are maintained, that

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the schools, the schools are maintained, and all of that stuff.

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 1>And you've got good schools, uh teachers. You don't need

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.440
<v Speaker 1>white people to maintain property value. The property value is

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>going to increase. So what happens is that they take

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 1>the resources when white people leave, right, the politicians and

0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the business people take the resources. It ain't white presents

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:44.520
<v Speaker 1>because it's trailer parks with full of white people. But listen,

0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that ship ain't got no value. But listen to what

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, Will yeah, they take the resources out of

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 1>those zip codes. But why did they remove the resources

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 1>when they will want to stand Yeah, well you I mean, right,

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>right right, your point. But saying but that that is

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that that is a that that's that's

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:08.319
<v Speaker 1>that's a layered you know theory there, you know, But

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree. But the point that I'm making

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:17.320
<v Speaker 1>is we can't depend on that system of valuation to

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.799
<v Speaker 1>determine what is valuable to us. If we do that,

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:24.279
<v Speaker 1>we will always be at a disadvantage. That's the point

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that I'm making, right, and and and to that point exactly,

0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 1>we just to be clear that we have to look

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:34.160
<v Speaker 1>at the value of our own communities and where we

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:36.239
<v Speaker 1>want to live out or whatever, and invest in those

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:39.600
<v Speaker 1>communities and bring resources in that community. We actually got

0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the power to do it. We do, we do it.

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:46.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like the wheel. You got the power, but we

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 1>got to put the wheel in front of the power. Yeah,

0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you gotta have the will and you also got to

0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:53.759
<v Speaker 1>have the courage. Yeah. A lot of black people are

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:57.880
<v Speaker 1>afraid that the two greatest enemies. Yeah, a lot of

0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 1>black people are afraid the two greater enemies of black

0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:05.280
<v Speaker 1>people today is not white folks. Our two greatest enemies

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 1>are ignorance and fear. If we overcome those two, then

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:16.719
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing that any white person, any clansmen, any skin heads,

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing that they could do with us. If we

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:23.759
<v Speaker 1>overcome fear and ignorance. You can't go to work with

0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody that's kid. Right. It's the hell of a thing, man,

0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:32.279
<v Speaker 1>when when you got your own government targeting you fulfailure.

0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 1>The motherfucker's write the laws, they enforced the laws, they

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:38.919
<v Speaker 1>got the military, they got law enforcement, they got all

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the good and then and they value the dollar. They

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:44.800
<v Speaker 1>put the value on the bill. They value everybody's money.

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Did you know that? Mm hmm? And that's cold blood.

0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:49.839
<v Speaker 1>You got a number you just write on a piece

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of paper and say hey, this is worth what that is,

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 1>whatever the number is, what that little piece of papers work.

0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:59.760
<v Speaker 1>You know. That's why Kadoti was murdered, right, yeah, because

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 1>he was like, you can't just have you just can't

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>give me this piece of paper with this number road

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 1>on it and for my oil and my goal and all.

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:09.840
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, oh yeah, we killing your mother. You know,

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:14.760
<v Speaker 1>we're living in unprecedented times man, and um where there's

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of changes being made by your elected officials.

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Some say for the bad. It seems like a lot

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:26.160
<v Speaker 1>of politicians are going out of that way to turn

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:29.160
<v Speaker 1>back the hands of times and progress for black people.

0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you ever get worried? Man? Do you ever get worried?

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you ever? Do? You ever get worried about

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 1>how we to survive this thing? You ever get discouraged

0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 1>with the fight that you put up? Because on a

0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:42.399
<v Speaker 1>daily basis, you do the work. You fight every day

0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 1>all day. This is what you do, That's what you do.

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:49.000
<v Speaker 1>You get phone calls all day another tragedy, you know,

0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:55.320
<v Speaker 1>like you're constantly consoling grieving mothers, you know, grieving fathers,

0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:59.360
<v Speaker 1>grieving family members, and you're constantly putting in the work

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 1>all day every day. Do you ever get wary? And

0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:06.360
<v Speaker 1>how do you manage that? Yeah? I get discouraged. I do.

0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I would be lying to you if I said that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't sometimes. But I never really worry. I never

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<v Speaker 1>worried because I truly believe that this is what I

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<v Speaker 1>was born to do. I was born to live doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was born to die doing it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>never really worried. I also never worried because in the

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<v Speaker 1>Nation of Islam, we're taught that what we're seeing black

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<v Speaker 1>people go through is biblical. It's scriptural, and we're taught

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<v Speaker 1>that the same way Joseph became the ruler in the

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<v Speaker 1>land where he was once a slave. That's really just

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Black America. We will become rulers in

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<v Speaker 1>this land where we were once enslaved. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. Well, I see it. I'm not sure about

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<v Speaker 1>that one, but I know what's gonna happen. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry because I know that I'm just the link

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<v Speaker 1>in chain. I'm just trying to be as strong of

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<v Speaker 1>a link as I can. Um, what do I do

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<v Speaker 1>about it? I do my best to maintain my spirituality

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't see how you can be a freedom

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<v Speaker 1>fighter and not believe in the Almighty. I just if

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<v Speaker 1>if there were no God, then black people wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance whatsoever. So, yeah, I do get discouraged. I

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<v Speaker 1>get discouraged all the time. I cried sometimes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't just really no crier like that. But but but

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<v Speaker 1>but my little feelings be hurt by some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I see. Um, yeah, we're losing too many,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do believe that there's a light at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of that tunnel and we are that light. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we are that, like absolutely, man. How can people get

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<v Speaker 1>in touch with you? And you can follow me on

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<v Speaker 1>social media at Derek Mohammed that's D E R I

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<v Speaker 1>C M U h A M M A D and

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<v Speaker 1>uh hit me on my website Derek Mohammed dot com. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we really appreciate you coming out. Man, it's so enlightened.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to actually do this again. Um, let's have it.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to do a weekly rent with brother Mohammed,

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<v Speaker 1>like one weekly. Yeah, you know what I mean, at

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<v Speaker 1>least once or twice once every couple of weeks. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just get don't here and just let's just argue

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<v Speaker 1>about it. You know, he off the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>head or you got some brilliant as I do know

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<v Speaker 1>it works man, Okay, Brad, remember we stopped damn well,

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<v Speaker 1>uh man, thanks for coming up. Man, y'all need to

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<v Speaker 1>come to the show. I've been trying to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him about shooting this movie. Man, y'all need to cover

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<v Speaker 1>to the show for real. Now. We we're gonna shoot

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<v Speaker 1>the movie and it's gonna be funny as hell because

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<v Speaker 1>we're funny brothers. Man. Yeah, we appreciate you coming out man.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, thank you. This episode was produced

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<v Speaker 1>by Aching and brought to you by The Black Effect

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