Speaker 1: Get up, Get boys. It's back and reoaded all in
Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, and that deep throating. This is for
Speaker 1: the streets, the reel, the railroading, the disfranchise, the truth
Speaker 1: escape building. And they ain't knowing we speak the truth,
Speaker 1: so they quoted because we wrote it. The North south
Speaker 1: East coat is the g be my tree, keeping your
Speaker 1: head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and wants to be
Speaker 1: dropped head by. And then the system is so corrupt
Speaker 1: they throw the rock out of their heads and then
Speaker 1: blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on code
Speaker 1: and me and danced for no furtament biscuits. It's really
Speaker 1: de y'all scar faces in the building. Collectively, we are
Speaker 1: to get old boys reloaded, reloaded with another episode of
Speaker 1: information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,
Speaker 1: beautiful world. In the studio, my old school mate, my homeboy,
Speaker 1: and my friend, my brother, a solid father, brother, son, cousin.
Speaker 1: Hey man, this active, this dude right here, and on
Speaker 1: top of that, the cherry on top is he's an active.
Speaker 1: He's for the people. Derek Mohammed family. Good to be here, man.
Speaker 1: Look man, I'm so happy to have you. Man, you.
Speaker 1: You were one of those people that that is earned,
Speaker 1: not giving you. You You we came, We came from
Speaker 1: the same place and we walked the same streets. We've
Speaker 1: walked the same holls in school. So I know your story,
Speaker 1: but I want you So y'all went to school. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple of years under me. I got a few
Speaker 1: years under will But how many years you over me?
Speaker 1: Because we all got a few years over me too.
Speaker 1: I think we go around that same I just turned
Speaker 1: fifty last year. Okay, right, yeah, but from the north
Speaker 1: side of Houston, brother Derek Mohammed, I remember Willie Deep
Speaker 1: back when Willie d was the local celebrity rapper. So
Speaker 1: when he became famous and people in Japan and everybody
Speaker 1: else started knowing him, we thought they already knew him
Speaker 1: because it's famous in Japan. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he is.
Speaker 1: He was he is. I don't know. But but we
Speaker 1: come from the same neighborhood. Everybody knows what goals on
Speaker 1: in the hood in the United States of America, so
Speaker 1: we don't have to itemize that. But we come from
Speaker 1: humble beginnings and due to our law, were living better now.
Speaker 1: But we haven't forgotten where we came from. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: when I look at you, oftentimes I see myself man,
Speaker 1: and in that You've always been like a good brother,
Speaker 1: had a good heart, but you had some challenges. You
Speaker 1: had some challenges. I mean you you you was a
Speaker 1: good dude, but you know you got caught up for
Speaker 1: a minute, just like I got caught up absolutely and
Speaker 1: in to see you go from uh, basically a minute,
Speaker 1: that's what. But but but to see you go from
Speaker 1: that to being a giver, you know, to being a protector,
Speaker 1: that's big. That's big. And to see how you dote
Speaker 1: over your daughter and how that feeling is reciprocated, it's beautiful, man.
Speaker 1: To see the relationship you have with your mother, you know,
Speaker 1: especially knowing like what that relationship was like early on
Speaker 1: because you know, your father died when you was eleven
Speaker 1: years old. You know, your your mother about addiction similar
Speaker 1: to mine. My mom bout an alcoholism, which is an addiction,
Speaker 1: but your mom about a drug addiction. Man, How I mean,
Speaker 1: what was that like growing up and not Northeast ust
Speaker 1: on an our side and you know, having to face
Speaker 1: those type of challenges on a daily basis. It was rough, Will,
Speaker 1: but it was all that we knew. You know, you
Speaker 1: have some young children who say that they grow up
Speaker 1: in the household, but they don't even know that they're
Speaker 1: poor because they just don't know nothing else. They feel
Speaker 1: like it's just normal. But having a mom who was
Speaker 1: uh got caught up in the crack era, I look
Speaker 1: at it as her being a casualty of the War
Speaker 1: on drugs. It forced myself and my siblings to grow
Speaker 1: up very fast. My father passing away at the age
Speaker 1: of eleven forced me to grow up very very fast.
Speaker 1: And I feel like the challenges that you face as
Speaker 1: a child, they'll either defeat you or they'll make you stronger.
Speaker 1: I believe that the challenges that I faced, I believe
Speaker 1: those that you face that we faced, they made a
Speaker 1: strong younger. And now that God has blessed us to
Speaker 1: become stronger in the face of those challenges, it is
Speaker 1: up to us to turn the corner, to go back
Speaker 1: to where we came from, to make certain that we
Speaker 1: reach your hand out to those other youngsters who are
Speaker 1: going through the same challenges. I'm a firm believer that
Speaker 1: you must never turn your nose up at the bridge
Speaker 1: that brought you over anything. You should do what you
Speaker 1: can to repair that bridge so that others who are
Speaker 1: coming across the bridge can make it on the other
Speaker 1: side too. So that's what I'm in the business of today,
Speaker 1: my dear brother, making certain that we were able to
Speaker 1: go back to where we came from and make it
Speaker 1: better for the next generation. Yeah. Share, share with the
Speaker 1: audience that story you told me about your teacher who
Speaker 1: who hit you on literacy? Right right? So, tenth grade,
Speaker 1: I came to school and I picked up my my
Speaker 1: schedule and I saw that they had me in the
Speaker 1: class called journalism. At that time, I didn't even know
Speaker 1: what the term journalism meant. So I said in the
Speaker 1: class and the teacher was like, does anybody have any questions?
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, what's journalism? Then she explained it to me,
Speaker 1: but I told her, look, don't worry about it. You
Speaker 1: know too many smart children in this class. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get my schedule changed and and and so you don't
Speaker 1: worry about I ain't coming back here no more. So
Speaker 1: she said, well, Mr Jackson, give me two weeks and
Speaker 1: if you still want to get your schedule changed, I
Speaker 1: will co sign on it. But the way you got
Speaker 1: in this class is because you're English teacher from nine
Speaker 1: grade recommended you because she said that you had a
Speaker 1: talent for writing. So I said to her, that's a
Speaker 1: hell of a thing, because I failed that class. Right,
Speaker 1: So what happened is she started teaching me face how
Speaker 1: to do what's called feature writing. She give me a
Speaker 1: subject and she said, okay, almost like probably comic songwriting.
Speaker 1: And I started getting good at it. Then I started
Speaker 1: liking it. Whereas at first I was hiding from my
Speaker 1: friends that I was in this journalism class because it
Speaker 1: sounded nerdy. Now I'm out with it, like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take this journalism thing to the next level. So
Speaker 1: she started, um not at the time, my mother was
Speaker 1: in the throes of her drug addiction and we hadn't
Speaker 1: seen her for weeks. So it was myself and my
Speaker 1: brother pretty much living on our own, uh, surviving how
Speaker 1: we could, and you know, going to school when we
Speaker 1: wanted to. That kind of thing. Well, she knew what
Speaker 1: it is, what was going on in my household. She
Speaker 1: knew I was fifteen with grown folks problems, and anytime
Speaker 1: there was some kind of competition or whatever, she would
Speaker 1: come pick me up. She would bring me food, she
Speaker 1: would give me money. So she as a teacher, unbeknownst
Speaker 1: to me, became the mother figure that I needed at
Speaker 1: a time when my mother was not in a position
Speaker 1: to be a mother. What I'm saying. So she entered
Speaker 1: some of my writings into a competition, and I basically
Speaker 1: just did it for her, because this is what she
Speaker 1: did to me. She would give me something and I
Speaker 1: would write, and I would bring it back to her
Speaker 1: for her to grade it, and she would say, well,
Speaker 1: that's okay, Mr Jackson, but I think you could do better.
Speaker 1: Back then my last name was Jackson. Then I do
Speaker 1: better and give it back to her, and then she
Speaker 1: would go crazy. She would go that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: She would take a small thing that I did and
Speaker 1: she would make it big. Right. That was her way
Speaker 1: of giving me confidence. So she entered my writing into
Speaker 1: this competition. By this time, I was living with my grandmother.
Speaker 1: My grandmother had come and got us in. We were
Speaker 1: living there. So my grandmother was like Derek, Ms. Leonard's
Speaker 1: on the phone. I called, I mean, I picked up
Speaker 1: the phone and she started screaming, and I'm like, miss Leonard,
Speaker 1: what's wrong? She said, you got second place? You got
Speaker 1: second place? I told you you could do it. And
Speaker 1: it was the first time that I had ever competed
Speaker 1: against white children in anything. But she had put such
Speaker 1: a battery in my back that any self doubt that
Speaker 1: I had in myself and thinking that I couldn't compete
Speaker 1: with these white children, it was already gone. So I
Speaker 1: tell that story just to illustrate the power of one teacher,
Speaker 1: of how the or the power of one mentor the
Speaker 1: power of how one individual can impact a child's life.
Speaker 1: And they never forget it. Now, this was thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: I'm still talking about that to this day, you know.
Speaker 1: But she but I made it to State as a writer.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about coming out of homestead village projects and uh,
Speaker 1: she picked me up to take me to the competition,
Speaker 1: and she said, Derek, she said, don't you go a
Speaker 1: hand up. These rich white kids intimidate you. She said,
Speaker 1: you are the best sixteen year old writer on the
Speaker 1: planet Earth when you focused. That's the kind of batteries
Speaker 1: she used to put in my back. So I competed,
Speaker 1: and I remember getting up from that death saying there's
Speaker 1: nothing in this room that's gonna be able to compete
Speaker 1: with what I wrote. Well, she called me just like
Speaker 1: she did the first time, and said, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: my grandmother was saying, brother dere Derek ms Lennar is
Speaker 1: on the phone. So I pick up the phone and
Speaker 1: she's on the phone crying. I'm like, what's wrong, miss Leonard?
Speaker 1: She said, they robbed you. I say, what do you mean? Well,
Speaker 1: the rule said that you have to write a story
Speaker 1: that's four hundred words long or less less. Mine was
Speaker 1: four hundred and five words, so I did too much.
Speaker 1: But she used to judge those competitions, and she said
Speaker 1: that she never seen where they disqualified somebody for writing
Speaker 1: too many words. It was my first time experiencing systematic
Speaker 1: racism directly. We all experienced it indirectly, but directly, it
Speaker 1: was my first time being cheated out of something right now.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I really didn't care. I
Speaker 1: was more there for her than I was for me,
Speaker 1: because I was there to prove her right. You see,
Speaker 1: all of the negative things that I have been that
Speaker 1: had been said to me about myself as a little
Speaker 1: black boy growing up in the hood, she was saying
Speaker 1: something different. She was feeding the kid. Get me why
Speaker 1: everybody else was telling me you ain't gonna be nothing
Speaker 1: in life. So I had to prove her right. And
Speaker 1: so even though they robbed me of that competition, the
Speaker 1: battery that she put in my back thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: it's still in my back today. So I can walk
Speaker 1: in any room and never feel intimidated, never feel less than,
Speaker 1: never feel as if though I'm not on anybody else's level,
Speaker 1: no matter who's in that room. Have you had the
Speaker 1: opportunity to tell this yes, yes, because he needs to
Speaker 1: know that. Yes. I wrote about her in my book.
Speaker 1: And uh, what's that book? It's called New Rules. It'll
Speaker 1: be out in a month. But I called her and
Speaker 1: I told her, and I let her know we actually
Speaker 1: maintained contact all the way up until the time she
Speaker 1: passed away. She passed away in but that year before
Speaker 1: she passed away, some months before she passed away, I
Speaker 1: was on an airplane on my way to Nevada for
Speaker 1: my birthday. I was gonna spend my birthday up in
Speaker 1: the mountains in Nevada, And as I was writing about
Speaker 1: her in the book, I just started crying. Bro Because
Speaker 1: it wasn't until then, thirty years later, that I realized, Damn, God,
Speaker 1: use this lady to save my life. M and when
Speaker 1: I got off that plane, I called it and and I
Speaker 1: let her know, but because it was we were going
Speaker 1: through COVID protocols, I said, Man, I'm gonna go and
Speaker 1: see her, but I'm gonna wait till things cooled down
Speaker 1: with COVID. Well, a couple of months later, I got
Speaker 1: a phone call from her nephew telling me that she
Speaker 1: passed away. But I want to say that to anyone
Speaker 1: who might be listening, if you have somebody that has
Speaker 1: made a difference in your life like that, don't wait
Speaker 1: to go and see them, to let them know what
Speaker 1: it is that they they've done for you, because tomorrow
Speaker 1: is not promised. Absolutely, But that's the power of one mentor.
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a story, man, And that is
Speaker 1: a beautiful story, you know, speaking of passing away. Man,
Speaker 1: I did not know Virgin died. Um the owner of Sunshine. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did not know he died. Oh Man, I that
Speaker 1: that was a good dude and super good. Yeah. May
Speaker 1: God be pleased contributed speaking to pass And I don't
Speaker 1: know if people know, but my grandmother, that's on the
Speaker 1: My Homies album. She passed win Um June June six,
Speaker 1: She passed, were buried on the eleven. Oh man, my condolences,
Speaker 1: that's all good man. She put up ninety for me
Speaker 1: and she don't owe me nothing. My grandmother passed back
Speaker 1: in October. Um, she put up ninety three years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she don't owe you nothing. I got fifty one and
Speaker 1: fifty one years and that was beautiful, Yell the fantastic.
Speaker 1: And you talk about people, um that were inspirational in
Speaker 1: your your upbring you know, and you being who being
Speaker 1: the person that you are. You know, I shared that
Speaker 1: same sentiment with my grandmother, you know. She she she
Speaker 1: gave me some stuff that I can take with me
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life and pass on to
Speaker 1: my shieldren that they can pass on it there. So
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying when you talk about people
Speaker 1: that that just a big impact on your life. As
Speaker 1: well as teachers too. You know, teachers played a huge
Speaker 1: role in me being you know who I am today.
Speaker 1: I started this is funny. I started. The way I
Speaker 1: started rapping was through limbricks. You ever heard of a
Speaker 1: limerick And it's like there was was a man from
Speaker 1: Nantucket who used to sit on the bucket. I guess
Speaker 1: how I learned how to wrap and I just mastered
Speaker 1: that and got really really good Willie And it's real
Speaker 1: though it is Man, something so simple turn can turn
Speaker 1: you into an animal. You know, something so simple as
Speaker 1: journalism can turn you into an animal. Like you know journalism,
Speaker 1: you know how to put words together, you know how
Speaker 1: to stand in front of a group of people, man,
Speaker 1: and express yourself to them about the importance of what
Speaker 1: it is you're trying to get across. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, that's heavy, man, that's heavy boys. Reloted
Speaker 1: podcast will be right back after the poet. Are you
Speaker 1: still working with the Mail's Office? Uh? Indirectly sometimes sometimes
Speaker 1: you put a lot of work in man, especially with
Speaker 1: that Blackmail Summit. Yes, sir, Yes sir. The Blackmail Summit
Speaker 1: is my baby. The black Mail Summit is the most
Speaker 1: important project that I've ever worked on, and it's the
Speaker 1: most important project that I will ever work on. What
Speaker 1: is the black Mail something? The Blackmail Summit is a
Speaker 1: summit that we host twice a year, once on the
Speaker 1: North Side and once on the South Side, where we
Speaker 1: bring in and young brothers from the hood and their
Speaker 1: parents and we focus strictly on the issues that black
Speaker 1: males face America. If anything, let start to cut you off,
Speaker 1: but name some of those issues that um played the
Speaker 1: black male in America. The fact that your average black
Speaker 1: male functions at a reading level of second grade, that's
Speaker 1: an issue, the aversh black male? What what? Age? Just period?
Speaker 1: That's not true because women can read this ass off.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to his words. Second grade second the average
Speaker 1: second first of all, second grade reading level is actually comprehensive.
Speaker 1: That don't mean you can't read? But yes, sir, what
Speaker 1: does what does? What does can't read mean? Though? What
Speaker 1: does that mean? Can't read? Like camp? That's not true?
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, man, that's not most mostly, most
Speaker 1: of your high school graduates, even if they can read,
Speaker 1: they graduate as functional illiterates. A functional illiterate is someone
Speaker 1: who can read and call words, but they can't get
Speaker 1: a grasp on the concept of what it is that
Speaker 1: they're reading. And you have to also remember that for
Speaker 1: three hundred and three hundred plus years it was against
Speaker 1: the law for us to learn how to read. So
Speaker 1: reading and writing are actually two lost arts people. So my, my,
Speaker 1: my uh first grade teacher, her name was Ms. Taylor,
Speaker 1: and she had a thing on her board on our chalkboard,
Speaker 1: and it says, understanding what you've read, Understanding what you've read,
Speaker 1: what that is? That like a form of of illiteracy.
Speaker 1: If you cannot understand what it is, it's called functional illiteracy.
Speaker 1: When you can, you can call. You can read the words,
Speaker 1: but you don't it doesn't make sense. And you can
Speaker 1: read the words very well, but you don't understand what.
Speaker 1: And then and then you have to also understand face
Speaker 1: that of what we're reading is culturally irrelevant to us.
Speaker 1: Meaning we're reading. We can read it, but I'm not
Speaker 1: really interested in what the hell George Washington did as
Speaker 1: far as as far as I'm concerned, George Washington was
Speaker 1: a slave owner. He sold a slave for a kid
Speaker 1: of molasses. So these are things that if if if
Speaker 1: you put this in front of me, it's something that
Speaker 1: I'm interested in because I see myself in it. But
Speaker 1: most of what our young boys are force fed in
Speaker 1: public schools, they don't see themselves in it. What happened
Speaker 1: on August second and this year August second nd, According
Speaker 1: to this calendar, North Carolina voters overwhelmingly approved amendment to
Speaker 1: disenfranchise African Americans as part of a statewide campaign to
Speaker 1: intimidate black registered voters. What does that mean? That means
Speaker 1: that what was going on? Then it's still going on
Speaker 1: right now? That's heavy, man. This is a catalog, uh,
Speaker 1: a history of racial injustice exactly. And this is the
Speaker 1: type of information that we have to feed to our
Speaker 1: children because that's the only type of information that we
Speaker 1: can that we're interested in. Well, it's the type of
Speaker 1: information that matters. Man, knowledge of self is It's like
Speaker 1: the motor in side of a car, right, you could
Speaker 1: you could have you could have the body of the car,
Speaker 1: but if you don't have the engine, it can't go nowhere.
Speaker 1: And I have no desire to study Abraham Lincoln whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I just don't. Then we're going and talking about the
Speaker 1: Journal Truth or Dred Scott or Path Singleton and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, Like I'm interested in those people. But when
Speaker 1: you talk about uh uh the Haze Tilling acting all
Speaker 1: that crap, I don't give a damn about that. Man. Well,
Speaker 1: the only thing that we really need to know is
Speaker 1: who they were period Haying Now I'm talking about our
Speaker 1: Washington Jack's all them, Who the who the hell they
Speaker 1: were heroes to us? Because from that we know what
Speaker 1: they did. Right, there's a there's an African proverb that says,
Speaker 1: when a child does not feel the love of the village,
Speaker 1: they will burn it down in order to feel it's warmth.
Speaker 1: But that's heavy, it's very heavy because what it does
Speaker 1: is explains that it explains the behavior of our children,
Speaker 1: particularly black boys. See, we've given birth to soldiers, but
Speaker 1: we have not given them anything to fight for. When
Speaker 1: we integrated black businesses into white businesses, and black businesses
Speaker 1: got eradicated while white businesses took off. What we did
Speaker 1: is we gave birth to a generation of soldiers, but
Speaker 1: what they were born to protect, we've integrated it into
Speaker 1: white society. So so they're angry. They're angry, my dear brother,
Speaker 1: And I mean, think about this. Right, when we came
Speaker 1: up in the eighties, you could drive down one street
Speaker 1: and you could see three different football games going on
Speaker 1: at the same time. We are playing tackle football. They
Speaker 1: did a study with lab rats and they said that
Speaker 1: after a lab rat is finished eating, it will actually
Speaker 1: do more work in order to enter into another space
Speaker 1: where there's another juvenile male lab rats so they can play.
Speaker 1: So to play, it's something that's natural for juvenile males.
Speaker 1: So why is it today that we can drive down
Speaker 1: the same streets and ain't nobody outside playing. It's because
Speaker 1: we've traded tackle football for grand theft, auto Fortnite Freeze
Speaker 1: tag for Fortnite hot Ball. Remember we used to play
Speaker 1: hot ball roadblocks. Yeah, so that's taxes, mask letting toxic.
Speaker 1: But what what not anything with black black, anything with
Speaker 1: men doing something aggressive, it's toxic, toxic. But but but
Speaker 1: the thing, but the thing about it is these video games,
Speaker 1: the type of it. It's not just that they're playing
Speaker 1: video games, but these violent video games that they're playing,
Speaker 1: they're militarizing our young boys before they reached the age
Speaker 1: of puberty. Yeah, but that's not our young boys. They're
Speaker 1: militarizing their young boys because we ain't. We're not. We're
Speaker 1: not walking up the street with with Well, I'm lying.
Speaker 1: Think about what you're saying, Think about what you're saying. No,
Speaker 1: they're militarizing walking up the streets now with with with,
Speaker 1: with with, But we're militarized for self destruction. They're militarized
Speaker 1: for something else. And what exactly what they're doing is
Speaker 1: is they're sending in militarized police officers to deal without
Speaker 1: militarized young boys. But but what I'm saying is the
Speaker 1: scientist got it down. Pat. If you can affect the
Speaker 1: way they play as little boys, then you can affect
Speaker 1: how they end up as grown men. Think, think about it.
Speaker 1: Think about it. If if you see a youngster every
Speaker 1: single day he got a basketball in his hand, he
Speaker 1: has a better chance of ended up in the NBA.
Speaker 1: You see a youngster with a football in his hand
Speaker 1: every day, he has a better chance to ended up
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Right if you see if you see
Speaker 1: a youngster playing grand theft auto ten twelve times, ten
Speaker 1: twelve hours a day and that's all he do, it's
Speaker 1: gonna impact where he ends up as a man. So
Speaker 1: that's why Frederick Douglas said that it is easier to
Speaker 1: trained strong boys than it is to repair broken men.
Speaker 1: We got to catch them while they're young if we
Speaker 1: want to save them. Uh, which is a great segue
Speaker 1: into the documentary you produced Raising Boys? Tips for Uh?
Speaker 1: Single moms, sir? What are some tips for single moms
Speaker 1: and raising boys in this climate? Yes, shout out to
Speaker 1: all of the single mothers out there who are being
Speaker 1: forced to raise their young boys on their own and
Speaker 1: that's not a slight against the fathers. But if the
Speaker 1: statistics are worth their salt, they say that sevent the
Speaker 1: homes in our community are headed by females. Right, So
Speaker 1: there will be times when that father is not there.
Speaker 1: But some of the things that a single mom has
Speaker 1: to do first and foremost is she gotta she has
Speaker 1: to be realistic about what she's what she's in. You
Speaker 1: gotta do your research and understand what that boy is
Speaker 1: facing as a black male in America, and you cannot
Speaker 1: sugarcoat it for him. The worst thing you can do
Speaker 1: is keep him on the breast too long, because there's
Speaker 1: a such thing as doing too much for your child. See,
Speaker 1: you might see him as your baby boy, And but
Speaker 1: if he goes out and every time he gets in trouble,
Speaker 1: you come and you save him, at some point he's
Speaker 1: gonna get into something you can't get him out of.
Speaker 1: And when he stands before that judge, that judge is
Speaker 1: not gonna see him as your baby boy. That judge
Speaker 1: is going to see him as a grown man. I
Speaker 1: don't give me twelve years old. And when little boys
Speaker 1: commit grown man crimes, they do grown man time. Another
Speaker 1: thing that all parents should do is. No matter what
Speaker 1: it is that your child asked for, if he's a boy, especially,
Speaker 1: you make him work for it. If he asked you
Speaker 1: for them Jordan's and you know you want to bomb
Speaker 1: for him anyway, you make him go out there and
Speaker 1: cut the grass, rape the leaves, sweep the roof. Hell,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but make him do something, because what
Speaker 1: you're doing is you're establishing in him work ethic. You're
Speaker 1: letting him know that you're not gonna be given anything
Speaker 1: in this world for free. If you don't do that,
Speaker 1: you send him out in the world with an unrealistic
Speaker 1: expectation that somebody owes him something, and he'll end up
Speaker 1: in prison wondering what happened. It'll hit him so fast
Speaker 1: he won't know what happened to him. So those are
Speaker 1: some tips that we give to single moms. But another
Speaker 1: very important one is you know you have to study
Speaker 1: your child's father. I don't care how you feel about him,
Speaker 1: you gotta study him because if you study your child's
Speaker 1: father unemotionally, you will see in him your son's strengths
Speaker 1: and weaknesses. Whatever those strength so are, you feed those strengths,
Speaker 1: whatever those weaknesses are. You do your best to try
Speaker 1: to protect them from those weaknesses. But don't become so
Speaker 1: overemotionally disappointed in the father to where you're not paying attention.
Speaker 1: You think you got rid of him, but you didn't.
Speaker 1: You're dealing with him in that child. And the same
Speaker 1: goals for single fathers. Um, we have to be systematic
Speaker 1: about this thing. Talk about the risk and coddling boys
Speaker 1: when let's say they have a father who has a
Speaker 1: colorful background. Colorful background, maybe they've been in some trouble
Speaker 1: with the law or something right, or they haven't done
Speaker 1: so well, you know, as a man, and they haven't
Speaker 1: lived up to manly expectations, you know, being a provider
Speaker 1: and and and protect her and all of this. What
Speaker 1: if he just can't deal with that bitch difference. Let's
Speaker 1: stay on track here. So what what would be the
Speaker 1: advice to like a woman who tries to over overcompensate
Speaker 1: for uh, to make sure that her son don't turn
Speaker 1: out like her, like his dad. She overcompensates and she
Speaker 1: coddles him. And now instead of raising a boy to
Speaker 1: be a man, she's raising the boy to be more
Speaker 1: like a woman. You know, because I've seen dudes get
Speaker 1: coddled and they argue with their mothers like their mothers
Speaker 1: it's their girlfriends or something. You know, they won't like
Speaker 1: you was talking about, uh, rewarding them for working, putting
Speaker 1: the work in. I know boys that don't do any chores.
Speaker 1: This ship was unheard of when I was growing up.
Speaker 1: They don't mot the yard. They they don't clean their room,
Speaker 1: and they don't have any kind of side job or anything.
Speaker 1: They don't do anything but stick their hand out and
Speaker 1: taking from their mom. And their mom was set up
Speaker 1: and argue with them like they're there boyfriend or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see all the time. Will and most mothers who
Speaker 1: coddle as you said their sons end up regretting it later.
Speaker 1: See the young black male in America is what I
Speaker 1: call over mothered and under fathered. Over mothered and underfathered
Speaker 1: both our problem. See, when God brings you into the world,
Speaker 1: he gives you two of everything, two eyes to see,
Speaker 1: two nostros to breathe, two ears. He gives you two
Speaker 1: of everything. And let's say it gives you two eyes.
Speaker 1: If you lose one of those eyes, you're considered handicap.
Speaker 1: So every child that is born into the world has
Speaker 1: a human right to two parents, both mother and father. Okay,
Speaker 1: if the relationship between mother and father does not work
Speaker 1: out for whatever reason, that father, if you keep that
Speaker 1: child from his mother, as long as the mother is
Speaker 1: not hurting that child, you're handicapping your child. And as
Speaker 1: a mother, if you keep that child away from his father,
Speaker 1: as long as the father is not hurting that child,
Speaker 1: you're handicapping your child. The child is the one who suffers.
Speaker 1: So as a mother, you have to understand the nature
Speaker 1: of a boy, all right. The nature of the male
Speaker 1: is it's about establishing dominance at every chapter in your life.
Speaker 1: That that's it. That's that's what boys do when we
Speaker 1: go outside. It's about who could slapbox the slap box
Speaker 1: the best, Who can fight the best, who could play
Speaker 1: basketball the best. It's about establishing dominance. And if he
Speaker 1: does not have a strong male in his life to
Speaker 1: teach him how to manage that, then what will happen
Speaker 1: is he'll end up veering off the road of life
Speaker 1: and you won't know what the hell to do with him.
Speaker 1: I had a partner who um he his his child's
Speaker 1: mother got into another relationship, right, and he didn't want
Speaker 1: the man around his children, so he called over there,
Speaker 1: and he he threatened her and all this other kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, right, which she shouldn't have done. All of that.
Speaker 1: What she recorded him and told him, now I got
Speaker 1: you that he was on probation at the time. She
Speaker 1: recorded him and said, if you come around my children again,
Speaker 1: those were his children too, I am going to call
Speaker 1: your probation office. So now he's in the bind, acting fold.
Speaker 1: But now he can't even see his children. So this
Speaker 1: brother went almost ten years without seeing his children. But
Speaker 1: one day his children's mom came looking for him. She
Speaker 1: came looking for him because the boy had gotten out
Speaker 1: of control, didn't know what to do with him, and
Speaker 1: he had to step in. Most mothers who do that
Speaker 1: regret it in the end. So to the single mothers
Speaker 1: out there, if you if you keep your son away
Speaker 1: from his father, you're not hurting anybody but your son.
Speaker 1: And this is the part that's heartbreaking. But I gotta
Speaker 1: say it, since we only get old boys that you
Speaker 1: reloaded the podcast, the sons usually end up hating their mothers,
Speaker 1: the one that does everything for him. They end up hating.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about hatred because years old, mom is
Speaker 1: still doing everything for you. You still sleeping on her couch.
Speaker 1: Subconsciously you blame her for you not being the man.
Speaker 1: It's really your fault, but subconsciously you blame her. And
Speaker 1: there are a lot of single mothers who take abuse
Speaker 1: from their sons after they've given them everything, because the
Speaker 1: sun grew up to hate them. You the reason I
Speaker 1: don't have a relationship with my daddy. So don't do that. Sisters,
Speaker 1: You're only hurting your sons, and you're creating a scenario
Speaker 1: where he may grow up to hate you. I hate
Speaker 1: to say it, but it's true. I see it every day.
Speaker 1: That would also have some effect on their relationships with
Speaker 1: other women. You know, I would think that if you
Speaker 1: have such a low opinion of your mother, you can't
Speaker 1: have a high opinion of women. Facts. Facts, yes, sir, facts.
Speaker 1: Exclamation point. Girl Boylo podcast will be right back after
Speaker 1: the point. Let's talk about Savior Day two thousand twenty two,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest greatest days in the history of civilization.
Speaker 1: Lewis Farrakon, Honorable Lewis Farrakhan spoke back in February and
Speaker 1: a speech that was called the Swan Song. Some people
Speaker 1: were saying that that was supposed to be his final
Speaker 1: official speech for the Nation of Islam. How true is that?
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, will I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Um Face said he just lost his grandmother.
Speaker 1: You never know when the time is going to come
Speaker 1: for the day of your departure. But when the minister
Speaker 1: explained the Swan song, he was basically saying that this
Speaker 1: is not necessarily my swan song. And for those who
Speaker 1: don't understand, the swan song is the beautiful song that
Speaker 1: a swan sings before he dies. The ministers saying, we're
Speaker 1: saying that this is really America's swan song because if
Speaker 1: she continues down the road of denying black people justice,
Speaker 1: her end is near. So this is the swan song
Speaker 1: for those who refuse to heed to the truth. This
Speaker 1: is the swan song for those who refused to cast
Speaker 1: off false ideas and concepts. This is the swan song
Speaker 1: for those who continue to, you know, keep their foot
Speaker 1: on the next of the oppressed. That's the way he
Speaker 1: explained that what's the what's the what's the repercussion from
Speaker 1: from what? From keeping your feet on black people's neck?
Speaker 1: What we're going to do, That's a very good question.
Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do more. I'm sorry keeping you
Speaker 1: keeping their feet on out. The next we're gonna get up.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go march some more. We're gonna go and
Speaker 1: congregate some more. Um We're gonna do We're gonna go
Speaker 1: to war because I think that. I think that in
Speaker 1: the um, in the society, in the country that only
Speaker 1: understands um brutality and war, brutality and war like the
Speaker 1: only like you. You. You you're not afraid of nobody
Speaker 1: standing up in front of your householding no sign. You're
Speaker 1: afraid of somebody walking in your house and beating you
Speaker 1: the funk up or killing you. See. I sound sucked
Speaker 1: up like that, like I'm not gonna. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I ain't down, like I ain't down with that ship.
Speaker 1: If you if, if, if we're really really tired of it,
Speaker 1: then let's going on and crank this ship up. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to no motherfucking no if
Speaker 1: if his own, then his own. If it's not, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna stay where the funk we yet, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I don't, I don't. I'm tired
Speaker 1: of my fucker spoon feeding me. Man. Oh you want
Speaker 1: to vote again. Uh, let me take you to the Senate.
Speaker 1: Uh let me tell you to congress. Uh. You niggas
Speaker 1: want to eat food, and uh let me let me
Speaker 1: let me see if they want to, let you'll eat.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the whole ass ship to me, Like, man,
Speaker 1: if you don't, let me, if you don't, if you
Speaker 1: if you want if, if you're gonna let me be
Speaker 1: a motherfucking man, let me be a man, bro you know,
Speaker 1: but they don't. They don't have the power to let you.
Speaker 1: They're having the power. Now. Your power is within within
Speaker 1: within Like nobody I asked for permission from nobody to
Speaker 1: be a man, like, can't nobody give me permission or
Speaker 1: let me be an I'm a man, period, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna carry myself like a man. And anybody got a
Speaker 1: problem with it, Uh, I'm gonna deal with it. It's
Speaker 1: as simple as that. Yeah. So, so anybody don't feel
Speaker 1: like that. Black people, we may feel like man, But
Speaker 1: what what has happened to us as a manly is
Speaker 1: we got caught up in the illusion of inclusion to
Speaker 1: too many of us. Too many of us have gotten
Speaker 1: too comfortable and so in order for us to get
Speaker 1: into that that war mindset that you're talking about. A
Speaker 1: line has to be drawn in the scene and everybody
Speaker 1: got to be down with. Everybody got to stand behind
Speaker 1: that line. Unfortunately, you're not gonna get everybody, but we
Speaker 1: needed it is. But there's no war where they're not casualties,
Speaker 1: but we need a critical mass. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many more casualties we need, brother Mohammed. I don't even
Speaker 1: we got we got we got more casualties, and we
Speaker 1: can count starting back from the from the eighteen seventeen hunters.
Speaker 1: It's all in this book right here, all in this calendar.
Speaker 1: Every day. We ain't got eighteen sixty six Texas Texas
Speaker 1: passing law providing and black people cannot testify in court
Speaker 1: unless the defendant is black, you know, like that kind
Speaker 1: of ship, you know what I mean? Like, well, we
Speaker 1: we we have to begin to see it for what
Speaker 1: it is, dear brother, And that is that I think
Speaker 1: it was. It was W. E. D. B. B. Two
Speaker 1: boys who said that a system cannot fail a people
Speaker 1: that was not built to give them justice in the
Speaker 1: first place. And the problem is we keep trying to
Speaker 1: force ourselves on a people at all week we're begging
Speaker 1: for justice, um from a people who don't even have
Speaker 1: it to give to themselves. We're begging for jobs from
Speaker 1: a people who don't have enough jobs for themselves. See but, but, but,
Speaker 1: but the black man listen to me, But the black
Speaker 1: man in America is like a seven footman that's drowning
Speaker 1: in four ft of water break. All he gotta do
Speaker 1: is stand up. All he gotta do is stand up
Speaker 1: to save himself. Like, well, I'm saying, we we got
Speaker 1: we have everything that we need in order to become
Speaker 1: a nation within the nation. We got the intellect. Don't
Speaker 1: tell me we ain't got the money. With one point
Speaker 1: three three trillion dollars in spending power, but who are
Speaker 1: we're spending it with? And you're talking about the war.
Speaker 1: That's where the war is right there. The war is economic,
Speaker 1: the war is political, the war is educational, the war
Speaker 1: is cultural. That's where the war is. But we have
Speaker 1: to first give up this assine idea that the American
Speaker 1: dream is somehow for black people. It never was, it
Speaker 1: is not now, and it never will be so until
Speaker 1: we come to that come to Jesus meeting that we
Speaker 1: all got to have with ourselves and realize that we
Speaker 1: all we got, then we're gonna continue to suffer. See,
Speaker 1: our ancestor showed us a blueprint of it with Black
Speaker 1: Wall Street. That was just a microcosm. How do we
Speaker 1: do to Black Wall Street? Man? Listen, I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 1: like you said, we got the money, we got the intellect,
Speaker 1: we even got the knowledge. We don't have I believe
Speaker 1: how the will. We don't have the we don't have
Speaker 1: the unity, and we have to be honest. But let
Speaker 1: me let me clear up before before I let you
Speaker 1: go any further, just collectively, we don't have the will.
Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of black people out there doing
Speaker 1: great things. I don't want to discount what you guys
Speaker 1: are doing. They're doing phenomenal things and that they're they're
Speaker 1: building industries, they're taking they're taking on buying in the industries,
Speaker 1: they're hiring black people, they're creating jobs, they're producing. So
Speaker 1: shots out to all you guys out that it's putting
Speaker 1: in the world. But we but we have to do
Speaker 1: that with them with independence in mind. You understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and there is a difference. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a story about the old hound dog who was laying
Speaker 1: on the porch laying on the rusty nail, and the
Speaker 1: neighbor came over, an access owner. He said, Man, I
Speaker 1: see that hound dog over that laying on that rusty nail.
Speaker 1: Why don't he move? He said, I don't know. He said,
Speaker 1: either he too lazy to move, or it just don't
Speaker 1: hurt enough. And in my humble opinion, that's an analogy
Speaker 1: for us as a people like bro Listen, were out,
Speaker 1: We're out protesting in front of sessing Me Place because
Speaker 1: sessing Me Place is discriminating against black children. Listen, man, listen,
Speaker 1: what more do we need to see? That's that's white
Speaker 1: folks saying that. What more do you need to see?
Speaker 1: Because if if we are passing over the black children
Speaker 1: sessing Me Street, you're already preempting them and indoctrinating them
Speaker 1: and letting them know that you live in racist America.
Speaker 1: Let me prepare you for this before you even get
Speaker 1: in the second grade. What more do we need to see? Damn,
Speaker 1: the nail just don't hurt enough. Either we're too lazy. Oh,
Speaker 1: it just don't hurt enough. Now, it can't be the laziness.
Speaker 1: Black people are not lazy. You know why black people?
Speaker 1: I didn't know how. I know black people ain't lazy.
Speaker 1: Who built damn country for nothing, so it can't be
Speaker 1: the laziness. But I guess it don't hurt enough. Bro.
Speaker 1: It hurt me. It hurt me. Bro. We're three for
Speaker 1: three years up from when Nipsey Hustle got killed. I
Speaker 1: just can't. I still can't and get beyond it. It's
Speaker 1: still got me messed up like that still physically hurts
Speaker 1: me that that black man who was that special. So
Speaker 1: you got the smart ones, you got the talented ones,
Speaker 1: you know, but you got something that that's the special ones.
Speaker 1: He was a special one. Nipsey was everything that we
Speaker 1: say we want to be. He's everything that we we
Speaker 1: we we we say that what we need to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was that. He embodied that. And when when I
Speaker 1: found man, when I was reading the headline, I was
Speaker 1: on the internet and I saw the headline and said, uh,
Speaker 1: popular rapper killed. I thought it was another one of
Speaker 1: these little youngsters. And and then I I saw a
Speaker 1: nips man, I saw a Nipsey name. Man, I just
Speaker 1: my heart just dropped, and I can't believe somebody would
Speaker 1: kill Nipsey Hustle like but but you know that but
Speaker 1: but but and we we know that their their their
Speaker 1: details to it. But what for what? And and and
Speaker 1: last week I was telling somebody this the other day,
Speaker 1: I actually said this at the Blackmail summit. And listen
Speaker 1: to me. I saw where Nipsey's killer, Eric Holder got
Speaker 1: convicted for murder. Yeah, you got convicted for first degree
Speaker 1: murder a few weeks ago. And I asked myself the question.
Speaker 1: I said to myself, he probably don't even care. You
Speaker 1: know why, because at least people know my name. At
Speaker 1: least I'm famous. Now, nah, it's gonna be bad. At
Speaker 1: least I'm famous. Listen, let me tell you something, somebody,
Speaker 1: But they don't care. That's what I'm saying. Somebody, some
Speaker 1: of these youngsters, some of these youngsters out here, they
Speaker 1: would rather be somebody on the front of a T
Speaker 1: shirt then to be nobody walking around in real life.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. But okay, I don't either. I
Speaker 1: don't either. But that's how bad. That's how bad it is.
Speaker 1: Like they say that this brother killed Nipsey because Nipsey
Speaker 1: made him feely relevant or something like that. But this
Speaker 1: whole idea of cloud chasing, it is out of control,
Speaker 1: is out of control. But that still hurts me to
Speaker 1: see how that brother lost his life and just to
Speaker 1: think just in three years, there's no telling how much
Speaker 1: further he would have been in his career and in
Speaker 1: doing for his community. That's just one example. But the
Speaker 1: point that I'm making is I can't be the hound
Speaker 1: dog on the porch. I can't even I wish it
Speaker 1: was a way. I wish it was a way that
Speaker 1: we can get I wish it was a way that
Speaker 1: we can get with everybody and get us all together man,
Speaker 1: and we all have a task at hand to complete. Man,
Speaker 1: that that could better the situation and for us, and
Speaker 1: and and the ones that come behind us, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I really think that that that
Speaker 1: example should be set right now by us again, Brad,
Speaker 1: that that is happening in some sectors that we need
Speaker 1: to put it all together with. But going back to
Speaker 1: what what Derek said, this ain't for everybody. Every We
Speaker 1: can't take everybody. Everybody's gonna make it. Everybody just ain't
Speaker 1: gonna make Some people don't even want to make it.
Speaker 1: Some people listen to what we're saying right now, they
Speaker 1: look at them talk about getting together and ship My mother,
Speaker 1: I hate the motherfucker. Who are you talking about? Talking
Speaker 1: about the girl? I'm talking about Nicholes. You know they listen,
Speaker 1: they're watching right now. They're looking, They're like, I can't
Speaker 1: they can't stand it. Get together? What you talking about? Unit? Man?
Speaker 1: This is it? Man, I'm I ain't ship. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine together that? How many with one point three trillion? Know?
Speaker 1: What is it? Yeah? One point three three trillion one
Speaker 1: something something? People bread are just built that way, man,
Speaker 1: because intrinsically that's who they are. That's that's just who
Speaker 1: that That's that's who they are. You know, it's some
Speaker 1: some people, man, Like we we're not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to take everybody with us, and we gotta be okay
Speaker 1: with that. And like we gotta be okay with like
Speaker 1: if it went down for real, Like we gotta be
Speaker 1: okay with Harriet mentality, kill a field. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, we we we gotta be
Speaker 1: okay with that because the motherfucker's just holding us back
Speaker 1: and so we we can't we we can't let anybody
Speaker 1: jump on the boat that would try to poke a
Speaker 1: hole at it in the boat. You know the problem
Speaker 1: is we have to be clear on the goal. We
Speaker 1: have to be clear on the objective. We have to
Speaker 1: be clear on what it is that we're trying to
Speaker 1: accomplish as a people. In the sixties. In the sixties,
Speaker 1: they were clear that they were trying to accompl the
Speaker 1: social experiment called integration, which has not worked. That has
Speaker 1: not worked, But they were organized in every state on
Speaker 1: many levels, trying to integrate. We want to eat in
Speaker 1: the same restaurants as white people and tallest listen. Not
Speaker 1: only not only do I agree that it was a
Speaker 1: big mistake. Statistics bear witness that it was a total mistake.
Speaker 1: But what if integration was the goal back then and
Speaker 1: they knew, okay, we got one common goal, let's work
Speaker 1: toward it. What's the goal right now? If we don't
Speaker 1: establish that, then we don't know what we're organizing behind.
Speaker 1: The Honorable Elijah Mohammed said decades ago, even while they
Speaker 1: were fighting for integration, that we should be fighting for
Speaker 1: what is called separation. We should have a separate system
Speaker 1: where we our children, a separate economy, where we determine
Speaker 1: the value of our own homes and the value of
Speaker 1: our own business is not depending on white people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: think about think about this right, Okay. Before South Park
Speaker 1: became black, it was white. Third War was white, White,
Speaker 1: Scenic was white, okay, and the property value in that
Speaker 1: neighborhood was it was high. Then integration came into play.
Speaker 1: Our people start moving from Kendleton and all of these
Speaker 1: little small black towns into these neighborhoods right right, soon
Speaker 1: as we as soon as we moved in, white folks
Speaker 1: started moving out. They call it what white flight, okay,
Speaker 1: white flights. So then white folk moved to Missouri City.
Speaker 1: Then black folks moved to Missouri City, then they moved
Speaker 1: to Sugar and then we started moving. Then they got
Speaker 1: tired of running, they come back. But now, initially in
Speaker 1: the sixties, when white folks start moving out of those neighborhoods,
Speaker 1: they say the property value went down. Okay, we black
Speaker 1: folk move in, white folk move out, property value go down.
Speaker 1: So in Third Ward the property value has been low
Speaker 1: for decades. When white folks decided to move back into
Speaker 1: the hood, I would it's skyrockets. So what are they
Speaker 1: telling you. They're telling you that the presence of white
Speaker 1: people is what determines value in this country. How the
Speaker 1: hell are we supposed to win under a system like that.
Speaker 1: So you're absolutely correct, but it's it's important that we
Speaker 1: acknowledge that just because white people live somewhere, I don't
Speaker 1: mean that something is more valuable. And and it's what
Speaker 1: I mean, like in these neighborhoods, Well, the reason why
Speaker 1: the property value go down not because black people move
Speaker 1: in and white people move out. It is because the
Speaker 1: politicians and the business people make a conscious decision to
Speaker 1: stop investing in those neighborhoods. And that's what drives the
Speaker 1: property value down. Because if you if the politicians continue
Speaker 1: to allocate funds directed into those communities to make sure
Speaker 1: that the streets are maintained, the parks are maintained, that
Speaker 1: the schools, the schools are maintained, and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: And you've got good schools, uh teachers. You don't need
Speaker 1: white people to maintain property value. The property value is
Speaker 1: going to increase. So what happens is that they take
Speaker 1: the resources when white people leave, right, the politicians and
Speaker 1: the business people take the resources. It ain't white presents
Speaker 1: because it's trailer parks with full of white people. But listen,
Speaker 1: that ship ain't got no value. But listen to what
Speaker 1: you're saying, Will yeah, they take the resources out of
Speaker 1: those zip codes. But why did they remove the resources
Speaker 1: when they will want to stand Yeah, well you I mean, right,
Speaker 1: right right, your point. But saying but that that is
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that is a that that's that's
Speaker 1: that's a layered you know theory there, you know, But
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. But the point that I'm making
Speaker 1: is we can't depend on that system of valuation to
Speaker 1: determine what is valuable to us. If we do that,
Speaker 1: we will always be at a disadvantage. That's the point
Speaker 1: that I'm making, right, and and and to that point exactly,
Speaker 1: we just to be clear that we have to look
Speaker 1: at the value of our own communities and where we
Speaker 1: want to live out or whatever, and invest in those
Speaker 1: communities and bring resources in that community. We actually got
Speaker 1: the power to do it. We do, we do it.
Speaker 1: It's like the wheel. You got the power, but we
Speaker 1: got to put the wheel in front of the power. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta have the will and you also got to
Speaker 1: have the courage. Yeah. A lot of black people are
Speaker 1: afraid that the two greatest enemies. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: black people are afraid the two greater enemies of black
Speaker 1: people today is not white folks. Our two greatest enemies
Speaker 1: are ignorance and fear. If we overcome those two, then
Speaker 1: there's nothing that any white person, any clansmen, any skin heads,
Speaker 1: there's nothing that they could do with us. If we
Speaker 1: overcome fear and ignorance. You can't go to work with
Speaker 1: somebody that's kid. Right. It's the hell of a thing, man,
Speaker 1: when when you got your own government targeting you fulfailure.
Speaker 1: The motherfucker's write the laws, they enforced the laws, they
Speaker 1: got the military, they got law enforcement, they got all
Speaker 1: the good and then and they value the dollar. They
Speaker 1: put the value on the bill. They value everybody's money.
Speaker 1: Did you know that? Mm hmm? And that's cold blood.
Speaker 1: You got a number you just write on a piece
Speaker 1: of paper and say hey, this is worth what that is,
Speaker 1: whatever the number is, what that little piece of papers work.
Speaker 1: You know. That's why Kadoti was murdered, right, yeah, because
Speaker 1: he was like, you can't just have you just can't
Speaker 1: give me this piece of paper with this number road
Speaker 1: on it and for my oil and my goal and all.
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh yeah, we killing your mother. You know,
Speaker 1: we're living in unprecedented times man, and um where there's
Speaker 1: a lot of changes being made by your elected officials.
Speaker 1: Some say for the bad. It seems like a lot
Speaker 1: of politicians are going out of that way to turn
Speaker 1: back the hands of times and progress for black people.
Speaker 1: Do you ever get worried? Man? Do you ever get worried?
Speaker 1: What do you ever? Do? You ever get worried about
Speaker 1: how we to survive this thing? You ever get discouraged
Speaker 1: with the fight that you put up? Because on a
Speaker 1: daily basis, you do the work. You fight every day
Speaker 1: all day. This is what you do, That's what you do.
Speaker 1: You get phone calls all day another tragedy, you know,
Speaker 1: like you're constantly consoling grieving mothers, you know, grieving fathers,
Speaker 1: grieving family members, and you're constantly putting in the work
Speaker 1: all day every day. Do you ever get wary? And
Speaker 1: how do you manage that? Yeah? I get discouraged. I do.
Speaker 1: I would be lying to you if I said that
Speaker 1: I didn't sometimes. But I never really worry. I never
Speaker 1: worried because I truly believe that this is what I
Speaker 1: was born to do. I was born to live doing it,
Speaker 1: and I was born to die doing it. So I
Speaker 1: never really worried. I also never worried because in the
Speaker 1: Nation of Islam, we're taught that what we're seeing black
Speaker 1: people go through is biblical. It's scriptural, and we're taught
Speaker 1: that the same way Joseph became the ruler in the
Speaker 1: land where he was once a slave. That's really just
Speaker 1: the story of Black America. We will become rulers in
Speaker 1: this land where we were once enslaved. I know it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Well, I see it. I'm not sure about
Speaker 1: that one, but I know what's gonna happen. So I
Speaker 1: don't worry because I know that I'm just the link
Speaker 1: in chain. I'm just trying to be as strong of
Speaker 1: a link as I can. Um, what do I do
Speaker 1: about it? I do my best to maintain my spirituality
Speaker 1: because I don't see how you can be a freedom
Speaker 1: fighter and not believe in the Almighty. I just if
Speaker 1: if there were no God, then black people wouldn't have
Speaker 1: a chance whatsoever. So, yeah, I do get discouraged. I
Speaker 1: get discouraged all the time. I cried sometimes, and I
Speaker 1: ain't just really no crier like that. But but but
Speaker 1: but my little feelings be hurt by some of the
Speaker 1: things that I see. Um, yeah, we're losing too many,
Speaker 1: but I do believe that there's a light at the
Speaker 1: end of that tunnel and we are that light. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are that, like absolutely, man. How can people get
Speaker 1: in touch with you? And you can follow me on
Speaker 1: social media at Derek Mohammed that's D E R I
Speaker 1: C M U h A M M A D and
Speaker 1: uh hit me on my website Derek Mohammed dot com. Man,
Speaker 1: we really appreciate you coming out. Man, it's so enlightened.
Speaker 1: I want to actually do this again. Um, let's have it.
Speaker 1: We need to do a weekly rent with brother Mohammed,
Speaker 1: like one weekly. Yeah, you know what I mean, at
Speaker 1: least once or twice once every couple of weeks. Man,
Speaker 1: let's just get don't here and just let's just argue
Speaker 1: about it. You know, he off the top of the
Speaker 1: head or you got some brilliant as I do know
Speaker 1: it works man, Okay, Brad, remember we stopped damn well,
Speaker 1: uh man, thanks for coming up. Man, y'all need to
Speaker 1: come to the show. I've been trying to talk to
Speaker 1: him about shooting this movie. Man, y'all need to cover
Speaker 1: to the show for real. Now. We we're gonna shoot
Speaker 1: the movie and it's gonna be funny as hell because
Speaker 1: we're funny brothers. Man. Yeah, we appreciate you coming out man.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, thank you. This episode was produced
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