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Speaker 1: cut the grass, rape the leaves, sweep the roof. Hell,

428
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, but make him do something, because what

429
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: you're doing is you're establishing in him work ethic. You're

430
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: letting him know that you're not gonna be given anything

431
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: in this world for free. If you don't do that,

432
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: you send him out in the world with an unrealistic

433
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: expectation that somebody owes him something, and he'll end up

434
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: in prison wondering what happened. It'll hit him so fast

435
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: he won't know what happened to him. So those are

436
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: some tips that we give to single moms. But another

437
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: very important one is you know you have to study

438
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: your child's father. I don't care how you feel about him,

439
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: you gotta study him because if you study your child's

440
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: father unemotionally, you will see in him your son's strengths

441
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: and weaknesses. Whatever those strength so are, you feed those strengths,

442
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: whatever those weaknesses are. You do your best to try

443
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: to protect them from those weaknesses. But don't become so

444
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: overemotionally disappointed in the father to where you're not paying attention.

445
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: You think you got rid of him, but you didn't.

446
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: You're dealing with him in that child. And the same

447
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: goals for single fathers. Um, we have to be systematic

448
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: about this thing. Talk about the risk and coddling boys

449
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: when let's say they have a father who has a

450
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: colorful background. Colorful background, maybe they've been in some trouble

451
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: with the law or something right, or they haven't done

452
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: so well, you know, as a man, and they haven't

453
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: lived up to manly expectations, you know, being a provider

454
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: and and and protect her and all of this. What

455
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: if he just can't deal with that bitch difference. Let's

456
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: stay on track here. So what what would be the

457
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: advice to like a woman who tries to over overcompensate

458
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: for uh, to make sure that her son don't turn

459
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: out like her, like his dad. She overcompensates and she

460
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: coddles him. And now instead of raising a boy to

461
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: be a man, she's raising the boy to be more

462
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: like a woman. You know, because I've seen dudes get

463
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: coddled and they argue with their mothers like their mothers

464
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: it's their girlfriends or something. You know, they won't like

465
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: you was talking about, uh, rewarding them for working, putting

466
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: the work in. I know boys that don't do any chores.

467
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: This ship was unheard of when I was growing up.

468
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: They don't mot the yard. They they don't clean their room,

469
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: and they don't have any kind of side job or anything.

470
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: They don't do anything but stick their hand out and

471
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: taking from their mom. And their mom was set up

472
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: and argue with them like they're there boyfriend or something. Yeah,

473
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: I see all the time. Will and most mothers who

474
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: coddle as you said their sons end up regretting it later.

475
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: See the young black male in America is what I

476
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: call over mothered and under fathered. Over mothered and underfathered

477
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: both our problem. See, when God brings you into the world,

478
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: he gives you two of everything, two eyes to see,

479
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: two nostros to breathe, two ears. He gives you two

480
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: of everything. And let's say it gives you two eyes.

481
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: If you lose one of those eyes, you're considered handicap.

482
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: So every child that is born into the world has

483
00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: a human right to two parents, both mother and father. Okay,

484
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: if the relationship between mother and father does not work

485
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: out for whatever reason, that father, if you keep that

486
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: child from his mother, as long as the mother is

487
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: not hurting that child, you're handicapping your child. And as

488
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: a mother, if you keep that child away from his father,

489
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: as long as the father is not hurting that child,

490
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: you're handicapping your child. The child is the one who suffers.

491
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: So as a mother, you have to understand the nature

492
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: of a boy, all right. The nature of the male

493
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: is it's about establishing dominance at every chapter in your life.

494
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 1: That that's it. That's that's what boys do when we

495
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: go outside. It's about who could slapbox the slap box

496
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: the best, Who can fight the best, who could play

497
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: basketball the best. It's about establishing dominance. And if he

498
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: does not have a strong male in his life to

499
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: teach him how to manage that, then what will happen

500
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: is he'll end up veering off the road of life

501
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: and you won't know what the hell to do with him.

502
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: I had a partner who um he his his child's

503
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: mother got into another relationship, right, and he didn't want

504
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: the man around his children, so he called over there,

505
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: and he he threatened her and all this other kind

506
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: of stuff, right, which she shouldn't have done. All of that.

507
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: What she recorded him and told him, now I got

508
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: you that he was on probation at the time. She

509
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: recorded him and said, if you come around my children again,

510
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: those were his children too, I am going to call

511
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: your probation office. So now he's in the bind, acting fold.

512
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: But now he can't even see his children. So this

513
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: brother went almost ten years without seeing his children. But

514
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: one day his children's mom came looking for him. She

515
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: came looking for him because the boy had gotten out

516
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 1: of control, didn't know what to do with him, and

517
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: he had to step in. Most mothers who do that

518
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: regret it in the end. So to the single mothers

519
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: out there, if you if you keep your son away

520
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: from his father, you're not hurting anybody but your son.

521
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: And this is the part that's heartbreaking. But I gotta

522
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: say it, since we only get old boys that you

523
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: reloaded the podcast, the sons usually end up hating their mothers,

524
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: the one that does everything for him. They end up hating.

525
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about hatred because years old, mom is

526
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: still doing everything for you. You still sleeping on her couch.

527
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: Subconsciously you blame her for you not being the man.

528
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: It's really your fault, but subconsciously you blame her. And

529
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: there are a lot of single mothers who take abuse

530
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: from their sons after they've given them everything, because the

531
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: sun grew up to hate them. You the reason I

532
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: don't have a relationship with my daddy. So don't do that. Sisters,

533
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: You're only hurting your sons, and you're creating a scenario

534
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: where he may grow up to hate you. I hate

535
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: to say it, but it's true. I see it every day.

536
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: That would also have some effect on their relationships with

537
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: other women. You know, I would think that if you

538
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: have such a low opinion of your mother, you can't

539
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: have a high opinion of women. Facts. Facts, yes, sir, facts.

540
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: Exclamation point. Girl Boylo podcast will be right back after

541
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: the point. Let's talk about Savior Day two thousand twenty two,

542
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: one of the greatest greatest days in the history of civilization.

543
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: Lewis Farrakon, Honorable Lewis Farrakhan spoke back in February and

544
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: a speech that was called the Swan Song. Some people

545
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: were saying that that was supposed to be his final

546
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: official speech for the Nation of Islam. How true is that?

547
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, will I don't know. I

548
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: don't know. Um Face said he just lost his grandmother.

549
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: You never know when the time is going to come

550
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: for the day of your departure. But when the minister

551
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: explained the Swan song, he was basically saying that this

552
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: is not necessarily my swan song. And for those who

553
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: don't understand, the swan song is the beautiful song that

554
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: a swan sings before he dies. The ministers saying, we're

555
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: saying that this is really America's swan song because if

556
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: she continues down the road of denying black people justice,

557
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: her end is near. So this is the swan song

558
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: for those who refuse to heed to the truth. This

559
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: is the swan song for those who refused to cast

560
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: off false ideas and concepts. This is the swan song

561
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: for those who continue to, you know, keep their foot

562
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: on the next of the oppressed. That's the way he

563
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: explained that what's the what's the what's the repercussion from

564
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: from what? From keeping your feet on black people's neck?

565
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: What we're going to do, That's a very good question.

566
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do more. I'm sorry keeping you

567
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: keeping their feet on out. The next we're gonna get up.

568
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna go march some more. We're gonna go and

569
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: congregate some more. Um We're gonna do We're gonna go

570
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: to war because I think that. I think that in

571
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: the um, in the society, in the country that only

572
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: understands um brutality and war, brutality and war like the

573
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: only like you. You. You you're not afraid of nobody

574
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: standing up in front of your householding no sign. You're

575
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: afraid of somebody walking in your house and beating you

576
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: the funk up or killing you. See. I sound sucked

577
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: up like that, like I'm not gonna. I don't. I don't.

578
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: I ain't down, like I ain't down with that ship.

579
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: If you if, if, if we're really really tired of it,

580
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: then let's going on and crank this ship up. Man.

581
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to no motherfucking no if

582
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: if his own, then his own. If it's not, we're

583
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: just gonna stay where the funk we yet, you know

584
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I don't, I don't. I'm tired

585
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: of my fucker spoon feeding me. Man. Oh you want

586
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: to vote again. Uh, let me take you to the Senate.

587
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: Uh let me tell you to congress. Uh. You niggas

588
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: want to eat food, and uh let me let me

589
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: let me see if they want to, let you'll eat.

590
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: You know, that's the whole ass ship to me, Like, man,

591
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: if you don't, let me, if you don't, if you

592
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: if you want if, if you're gonna let me be

593
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: a motherfucking man, let me be a man, bro you know,

594
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: but they don't. They don't have the power to let you.

595
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: They're having the power. Now. Your power is within within

596
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: within Like nobody I asked for permission from nobody to

597
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: be a man, like, can't nobody give me permission or

598
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: let me be an I'm a man, period, and I'm

599
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: gonna carry myself like a man. And anybody got a

600
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: problem with it, Uh, I'm gonna deal with it. It's

601
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: as simple as that. Yeah. So, so anybody don't feel

602
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: like that. Black people, we may feel like man, But

603
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: what what has happened to us as a manly is

604
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: we got caught up in the illusion of inclusion to

605
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: too many of us. Too many of us have gotten

606
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: too comfortable and so in order for us to get

607
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: into that that war mindset that you're talking about. A

608
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: line has to be drawn in the scene and everybody

609
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 1: got to be down with. Everybody got to stand behind

610
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: that line. Unfortunately, you're not gonna get everybody, but we

611
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: needed it is. But there's no war where they're not casualties,

612
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: but we need a critical mass. I don't know how

613
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: many more casualties we need, brother Mohammed. I don't even

614
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: we got we got we got more casualties, and we

615
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: can count starting back from the from the eighteen seventeen hunters.

616
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: It's all in this book right here, all in this calendar.

617
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: Every day. We ain't got eighteen sixty six Texas Texas

618
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: passing law providing and black people cannot testify in court

619
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: unless the defendant is black, you know, like that kind

620
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: of ship, you know what I mean? Like, well, we

621
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: we we have to begin to see it for what

622
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: it is, dear brother, And that is that I think

623
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: it was. It was W. E. D. B. B. Two

624
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: boys who said that a system cannot fail a people

625
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: that was not built to give them justice in the

626
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: first place. And the problem is we keep trying to

627
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: force ourselves on a people at all week we're begging

628
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: for justice, um from a people who don't even have

629
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: it to give to themselves. We're begging for jobs from

630
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: a people who don't have enough jobs for themselves. See but, but, but,

631
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: but the black man listen to me, But the black

632
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: man in America is like a seven footman that's drowning

633
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: in four ft of water break. All he gotta do

634
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: is stand up. All he gotta do is stand up

635
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: to save himself. Like, well, I'm saying, we we got

636
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: we have everything that we need in order to become

637
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: a nation within the nation. We got the intellect. Don't

638
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: tell me we ain't got the money. With one point

639
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: three three trillion dollars in spending power, but who are

640
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 1: we're spending it with? And you're talking about the war.

641
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: That's where the war is right there. The war is economic,

642
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: the war is political, the war is educational, the war

643
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: is cultural. That's where the war is. But we have

644
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 1: to first give up this assine idea that the American

645
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: dream is somehow for black people. It never was, it

646
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: is not now, and it never will be so until

647
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: we come to that come to Jesus meeting that we

648
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: all got to have with ourselves and realize that we

649
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: all we got, then we're gonna continue to suffer. See,

650
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: our ancestor showed us a blueprint of it with Black

651
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: Wall Street. That was just a microcosm. How do we

652
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: do to Black Wall Street? Man? Listen, I'm gonna tell you,

653
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: like you said, we got the money, we got the intellect,

654
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: we even got the knowledge. We don't have I believe

655
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: how the will. We don't have the we don't have

656
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: the unity, and we have to be honest. But let

657
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: me let me clear up before before I let you

658
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: go any further, just collectively, we don't have the will.

659
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of black people out there doing

660
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: great things. I don't want to discount what you guys

661
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: are doing. They're doing phenomenal things and that they're they're

662
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: building industries, they're taking they're taking on buying in the industries,

663
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: they're hiring black people, they're creating jobs, they're producing. So

664
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: shots out to all you guys out that it's putting

665
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: in the world. But we but we have to do

666
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: that with them with independence in mind. You understand what

667
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and there is a difference. You know, there's

668
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: a story about the old hound dog who was laying

669
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: on the porch laying on the rusty nail, and the

670
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: neighbor came over, an access owner. He said, Man, I

671
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 1: see that hound dog over that laying on that rusty nail.

672
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: Why don't he move? He said, I don't know. He said,

673
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: either he too lazy to move, or it just don't

674
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: hurt enough. And in my humble opinion, that's an analogy

675
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: for us as a people like bro Listen, were out,

676
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: We're out protesting in front of sessing Me Place because

677
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: sessing Me Place is discriminating against black children. Listen, man, listen,

678
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: what more do we need to see? That's that's white

679
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: folks saying that. What more do you need to see?

680
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: Because if if we are passing over the black children

681
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: sessing Me Street, you're already preempting them and indoctrinating them

682
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: and letting them know that you live in racist America.

683
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: Let me prepare you for this before you even get

684
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: in the second grade. What more do we need to see? Damn,

685
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: the nail just don't hurt enough. Either we're too lazy. Oh,

686
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: it just don't hurt enough. Now, it can't be the laziness.

687
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: Black people are not lazy. You know why black people?

688
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know how. I know black people ain't lazy.

689
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: Who built damn country for nothing, so it can't be

690
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: the laziness. But I guess it don't hurt enough. Bro.

691
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: It hurt me. It hurt me. Bro. We're three for

692
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: three years up from when Nipsey Hustle got killed. I

693
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: just can't. I still can't and get beyond it. It's

694
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: still got me messed up like that still physically hurts

695
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: me that that black man who was that special. So

696
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: you got the smart ones, you got the talented ones,

697
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: you know, but you got something that that's the special ones.

698
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: He was a special one. Nipsey was everything that we

699
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: say we want to be. He's everything that we we

700
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: we we we say that what we need to be. Yeah,

701
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: he was that. He embodied that. And when when I

702
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: found man, when I was reading the headline, I was

703
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: on the internet and I saw the headline and said, uh,

704
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: popular rapper killed. I thought it was another one of

705
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: these little youngsters. And and then I I saw a

706
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: nips man, I saw a Nipsey name. Man, I just

707
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: my heart just dropped, and I can't believe somebody would

708
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: kill Nipsey Hustle like but but you know that but

709
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: but but and we we know that their their their

710
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: details to it. But what for what? And and and

711
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: last week I was telling somebody this the other day,

712
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: I actually said this at the Blackmail summit. And listen

713
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: to me. I saw where Nipsey's killer, Eric Holder got

714
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: convicted for murder. Yeah, you got convicted for first degree

715
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: murder a few weeks ago. And I asked myself the question.

716
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: I said to myself, he probably don't even care. You

717
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: know why, because at least people know my name. At

718
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: least I'm famous. Now, nah, it's gonna be bad. At

719
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: least I'm famous. Listen, let me tell you something, somebody,

720
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: But they don't care. That's what I'm saying. Somebody, some

721
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: of these youngsters, some of these youngsters out here, they

722
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: would rather be somebody on the front of a T

723
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: shirt then to be nobody walking around in real life.

724
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't get it. But okay, I don't either. I

725
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: don't either. But that's how bad. That's how bad it is.

726
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: Like they say that this brother killed Nipsey because Nipsey

727
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: made him feely relevant or something like that. But this

728
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: whole idea of cloud chasing, it is out of control,

729
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: is out of control. But that still hurts me to

730
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: see how that brother lost his life and just to

731
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: think just in three years, there's no telling how much

732
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: further he would have been in his career and in

733
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: doing for his community. That's just one example. But the

734
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: point that I'm making is I can't be the hound

735
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: dog on the porch. I can't even I wish it

736
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: was a way. I wish it was a way that

737
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: we can get I wish it was a way that

738
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: we can get with everybody and get us all together man,

739
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: and we all have a task at hand to complete. Man,

740
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: that that could better the situation and for us, and

741
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: and and the ones that come behind us, you know

742
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I really think that that that

743
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: example should be set right now by us again, Brad,

744
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: that that is happening in some sectors that we need

745
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: to put it all together with. But going back to

746
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: what what Derek said, this ain't for everybody. Every We

747
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: can't take everybody. Everybody's gonna make it. Everybody just ain't

748
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: gonna make Some people don't even want to make it.

749
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: Some people listen to what we're saying right now, they

750
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: look at them talk about getting together and ship My mother,

751
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: I hate the motherfucker. Who are you talking about? Talking

752
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 1: about the girl? I'm talking about Nicholes. You know they listen,

753
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: they're watching right now. They're looking, They're like, I can't

754
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: they can't stand it. Get together? What you talking about? Unit? Man?

755
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: This is it? Man, I'm I ain't ship. Can you

756
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: imagine together that? How many with one point three trillion? Know?

757
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: What is it? Yeah? One point three three trillion one

758
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: something something? People bread are just built that way, man,

759
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: because intrinsically that's who they are. That's that's just who

760
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: that That's that's who they are. You know, it's some

761
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: some people, man, Like we we're not gonna be able

762
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: to take everybody with us, and we gotta be okay

763
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: with that. And like we gotta be okay with like

764
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: if it went down for real, Like we gotta be

765
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: okay with Harriet mentality, kill a field. Yeah, you know

766
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, we we we gotta be

767
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: okay with that because the motherfucker's just holding us back

768
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: and so we we can't we we can't let anybody

769
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: jump on the boat that would try to poke a

770
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: hole at it in the boat. You know the problem

771
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: is we have to be clear on the goal. We

772
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: have to be clear on the objective. We have to

773
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: be clear on what it is that we're trying to

774
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: accomplish as a people. In the sixties. In the sixties,

775
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: they were clear that they were trying to accompl the

776
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: social experiment called integration, which has not worked. That has

777
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: not worked, But they were organized in every state on

778
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: many levels, trying to integrate. We want to eat in

779
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: the same restaurants as white people and tallest listen. Not

780
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: only not only do I agree that it was a

781
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: big mistake. Statistics bear witness that it was a total mistake.

782
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: But what if integration was the goal back then and

783
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: they knew, okay, we got one common goal, let's work

784
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: toward it. What's the goal right now? If we don't

785
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: establish that, then we don't know what we're organizing behind.

786
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: The Honorable Elijah Mohammed said decades ago, even while they

787
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: were fighting for integration, that we should be fighting for

788
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: what is called separation. We should have a separate system

789
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: where we our children, a separate economy, where we determine

790
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: the value of our own homes and the value of

791
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: our own business is not depending on white people. Yeah,

792
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: think about think about this right, Okay. Before South Park

793
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: became black, it was white. Third War was white, White,

794
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: Scenic was white, okay, and the property value in that

795
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: neighborhood was it was high. Then integration came into play.

796
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: Our people start moving from Kendleton and all of these

797
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: little small black towns into these neighborhoods right right, soon

798
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: as we as soon as we moved in, white folks

799
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: started moving out. They call it what white flight, okay,

800
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: white flights. So then white folk moved to Missouri City.

801
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: Then black folks moved to Missouri City, then they moved

802
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: to Sugar and then we started moving. Then they got

803
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: tired of running, they come back. But now, initially in

804
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: the sixties, when white folks start moving out of those neighborhoods,

805
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: they say the property value went down. Okay, we black

806
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: folk move in, white folk move out, property value go down.

807
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: So in Third Ward the property value has been low

808
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: for decades. When white folks decided to move back into

809
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: the hood, I would it's skyrockets. So what are they

810
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: telling you. They're telling you that the presence of white

811
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: people is what determines value in this country. How the

812
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: hell are we supposed to win under a system like that.

813
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: So you're absolutely correct, but it's it's important that we

814
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: acknowledge that just because white people live somewhere, I don't

815
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: mean that something is more valuable. And and it's what

816
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like in these neighborhoods, Well, the reason why

817
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 1: the property value go down not because black people move

818
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: in and white people move out. It is because the

819
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: politicians and the business people make a conscious decision to

820
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: stop investing in those neighborhoods. And that's what drives the

821
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: property value down. Because if you if the politicians continue

822
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: to allocate funds directed into those communities to make sure

823
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: that the streets are maintained, the parks are maintained, that

824
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: the schools, the schools are maintained, and all of that stuff.

825
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: And you've got good schools, uh teachers. You don't need

826
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: white people to maintain property value. The property value is

827
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: going to increase. So what happens is that they take

828
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: the resources when white people leave, right, the politicians and

829
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: the business people take the resources. It ain't white presents

830
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: because it's trailer parks with full of white people. But listen,

831
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: that ship ain't got no value. But listen to what

832
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: you're saying, Will yeah, they take the resources out of

833
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: those zip codes. But why did they remove the resources

834
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: when they will want to stand Yeah, well you I mean, right,

835
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: right right, your point. But saying but that that is

836
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that is a that that's that's

837
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: that's a layered you know theory there, you know, But

838
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. But the point that I'm making

839
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: is we can't depend on that system of valuation to

840
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: determine what is valuable to us. If we do that,

841
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: we will always be at a disadvantage. That's the point

842
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: that I'm making, right, and and and to that point exactly,

843
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: we just to be clear that we have to look

844
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: at the value of our own communities and where we

845
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: want to live out or whatever, and invest in those

846
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: communities and bring resources in that community. We actually got

847
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: the power to do it. We do, we do it.

848
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Speaker 1: It's like the wheel. You got the power, but we

849
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Speaker 1: got to put the wheel in front of the power. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have the will and you also got to

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Speaker 1: have the courage. Yeah. A lot of black people are

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Speaker 1: afraid that the two greatest enemies. Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 1: black people are afraid the two greater enemies of black

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Speaker 1: people today is not white folks. Our two greatest enemies

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Speaker 1: are ignorance and fear. If we overcome those two, then

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Speaker 1: there's nothing that any white person, any clansmen, any skin heads,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing that they could do with us. If we

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Speaker 1: overcome fear and ignorance. You can't go to work with

859
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Speaker 1: somebody that's kid. Right. It's the hell of a thing, man,

860
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Speaker 1: when when you got your own government targeting you fulfailure.

861
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Speaker 1: The motherfucker's write the laws, they enforced the laws, they

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Speaker 1: got the military, they got law enforcement, they got all

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Speaker 1: the good and then and they value the dollar. They

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Speaker 1: put the value on the bill. They value everybody's money.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that? Mm hmm? And that's cold blood.

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Speaker 1: You got a number you just write on a piece

867
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Speaker 1: of paper and say hey, this is worth what that is,

868
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Speaker 1: whatever the number is, what that little piece of papers work.

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Speaker 1: You know. That's why Kadoti was murdered, right, yeah, because

870
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Speaker 1: he was like, you can't just have you just can't

871
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Speaker 1: give me this piece of paper with this number road

872
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Speaker 1: on it and for my oil and my goal and all.

873
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Speaker 1: And he's like, oh yeah, we killing your mother. You know,

874
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Speaker 1: we're living in unprecedented times man, and um where there's

875
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Speaker 1: a lot of changes being made by your elected officials.

876
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Speaker 1: Some say for the bad. It seems like a lot

877
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Speaker 1: of politicians are going out of that way to turn

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Speaker 1: back the hands of times and progress for black people.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever get worried? Man? Do you ever get worried?

880
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Speaker 1: What do you ever? Do? You ever get worried about

881
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: how we to survive this thing? You ever get discouraged

882
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: with the fight that you put up? Because on a

883
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Speaker 1: daily basis, you do the work. You fight every day

884
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: all day. This is what you do, That's what you do.

885
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Speaker 1: You get phone calls all day another tragedy, you know,

886
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Speaker 1: like you're constantly consoling grieving mothers, you know, grieving fathers,

887
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Speaker 1: grieving family members, and you're constantly putting in the work

888
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: all day every day. Do you ever get wary? And

889
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: how do you manage that? Yeah? I get discouraged. I do.

890
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Speaker 1: I would be lying to you if I said that

891
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: I didn't sometimes. But I never really worry. I never

892
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Speaker 1: worried because I truly believe that this is what I

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Speaker 1: was born to do. I was born to live doing it,

894
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Speaker 1: and I was born to die doing it. So I

895
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: never really worried. I also never worried because in the

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Speaker 1: Nation of Islam, we're taught that what we're seeing black

897
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Speaker 1: people go through is biblical. It's scriptural, and we're taught

898
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Speaker 1: that the same way Joseph became the ruler in the

899
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Speaker 1: land where he was once a slave. That's really just

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Speaker 1: the story of Black America. We will become rulers in

901
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: this land where we were once enslaved. I know it's

902
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Well, I see it. I'm not sure about

903
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Speaker 1: that one, but I know what's gonna happen. So I

904
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Speaker 1: don't worry because I know that I'm just the link

905
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Speaker 1: in chain. I'm just trying to be as strong of

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Speaker 1: a link as I can. Um, what do I do

907
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: about it? I do my best to maintain my spirituality

908
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: because I don't see how you can be a freedom

909
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: fighter and not believe in the Almighty. I just if

910
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: if there were no God, then black people wouldn't have

911
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: a chance whatsoever. So, yeah, I do get discouraged. I

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00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: get discouraged all the time. I cried sometimes, and I

913
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Speaker 1: ain't just really no crier like that. But but but

914
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Speaker 1: but my little feelings be hurt by some of the

915
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: things that I see. Um, yeah, we're losing too many,

916
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Speaker 1: but I do believe that there's a light at the

917
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Speaker 1: end of that tunnel and we are that light. Yeah,

918
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: we are that, like absolutely, man. How can people get

919
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: in touch with you? And you can follow me on

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Speaker 1: social media at Derek Mohammed that's D E R I

921
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Speaker 1: C M U h A M M A D and

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Speaker 1: uh hit me on my website Derek Mohammed dot com. Man,

923
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Speaker 1: we really appreciate you coming out. Man, it's so enlightened.

924
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Speaker 1: I want to actually do this again. Um, let's have it.

925
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Speaker 1: We need to do a weekly rent with brother Mohammed,

926
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Speaker 1: like one weekly. Yeah, you know what I mean, at

927
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Speaker 1: least once or twice once every couple of weeks. Man,

928
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Speaker 1: let's just get don't here and just let's just argue

929
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Speaker 1: about it. You know, he off the top of the

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Speaker 1: head or you got some brilliant as I do know

931
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Speaker 1: it works man, Okay, Brad, remember we stopped damn well,

932
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Speaker 1: uh man, thanks for coming up. Man, y'all need to

933
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Speaker 1: come to the show. I've been trying to talk to

934
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Speaker 1: him about shooting this movie. Man, y'all need to cover

935
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: to the show for real. Now. We we're gonna shoot

936
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Speaker 1: the movie and it's gonna be funny as hell because

937
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Speaker 1: we're funny brothers. Man. Yeah, we appreciate you coming out man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, thank you. This episode was produced

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Speaker 1: by Aching and brought to you by The Black Effect

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