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Speaker 2: This is the Player's Lounge broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 2: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 2: Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison and New he Scruggs.

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Speaker 1: Yo. Here we are players Lounge. No players involved today,

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Speaker 1: it's just heck Ma Harrison me New Scrugs. So Barry

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Speaker 1: Church out doing church things, yes, and now swinging swinging

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Speaker 1: the clubs doing the thing in his last but a

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Speaker 1: summer in before the kids head back to school. Danny

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Speaker 1: McCrae on assignment. So it is Heckman and I talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys with you right here for the SWBC podcast studio

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Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco, California. Cowboys training camp still

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Speaker 1: going on Oxnard, California. On Sunday, the Los Angeles Rams

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Speaker 1: will take on the Cowboys and we'll start to see

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Speaker 1: exactly what guys are doing there. One thing to talk

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Speaker 1: about Oxar, California right now, Hackma Harrison, is the fact

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Speaker 1: that the fans have not been coming out. Let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: fans upset fans upset Two things. One the playoff loss, okay,

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Speaker 1: another disappointment, and two Jerry Jones set all in. The

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Speaker 1: owner and general manager set all in. It's not been

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Speaker 1: all in. And you know how people vote, they vote

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Speaker 1: with their pocketbook. True, they vote with their pocketbook. And

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Speaker 1: while there have been some days where it's been nice

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Speaker 1: and a part of it is the excitement. So we

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Speaker 1: know Jerry cares about this. Jerry cares about it, and

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Speaker 1: he brought up the whole season ticket sales and yes,

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Speaker 1: the cowboys, so they are the cowboys. Okay, they are

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Speaker 1: the cowboys. But when fans start saying, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: got something else to do this summer in seventy degree

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Speaker 1: weather in ox Star, California, I have gone to camp

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Speaker 1: where you literally see the cars lined up down the

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Speaker 1: general manager and the players. You know what, man, that hope,

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Speaker 1: you man, some people got off that narcotic. They're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not one of those shows. What is your take

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Speaker 1: as you you read it and you start to see it.

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Speaker 4: You know, look, the optics are not indicative of what

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Speaker 4: you've seen in the past, and I think you point

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Speaker 4: that out and it's It's true. In the past there

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Speaker 4: has been the line around the block to get into

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Speaker 4: you did and what you didn't do in the off season.

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Speaker 4: And I think everyone could see. You could see you

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Speaker 4: didn't make the moves that all in said that you

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Speaker 4: were going to make okay, and you hadn't signed your stars.

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Speaker 4: So there's so much influx right now that I think

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Speaker 4: that if you inject chaos right here, this is the

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Speaker 4: byproduct of that. And the fans may be speaking right now.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much of that if you go

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Speaker 4: other day and I was like, that's gotta be bad.

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Speaker 4: That's not a good look when you have just a

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Speaker 4: please keep in mind that the Cowboys practices are free,

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Speaker 4: so it's not as though you're paying the inner the

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Speaker 4: end to the training camp. So look, it's not a

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Speaker 4: good look for the Cowboys at all.

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Speaker 1: Man, So no splash hurts. No splashing free agency. Dak

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman that most people did not know who

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Speaker 1: he was. So that to me, those are the things

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Speaker 1: that fans look at and like frustrated. And heckm you

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Speaker 1: walk around town, your friends know you work on the

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Speaker 1: Players Lounge podcast. They come up and ask you things.

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Speaker 1: They ask me what's going on? And I'm sure you're

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Speaker 1: doing exactly what I'm doing. Man, I'm not gonna lie

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And even with that being said, I think if

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Speaker 4: are kind of exhausted with all the conjecture and wordplay.

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Speaker 4: They want to see action. They want to see players

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Speaker 4: in the NFC East, what does Philadelphia do. They go

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Speaker 4: out and they get Saquon Barkley, Splash, splash.

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Speaker 1: Right off the bat.

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Speaker 4: The Commanders not only do they make splashes with the

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Speaker 4: first round and bringing in other players. The more you

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Speaker 4: look at it, you say, all right, man, you guys

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Speaker 4: teams in the NFC East are getting better. The Giants

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Speaker 4: It doesn't look like they're trying to get any better.

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Speaker 4: But other teams in the NFC have made those acquisitions

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Speaker 4: that would give the impression. And again, I can only

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Speaker 4: go back to what I know about the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 4: and we still compare when you look at the pro

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Speaker 1: So what you said leads me back into who Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones is. Jerry Jones is an optimist and he'll tell

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Speaker 1: you all day long back to me to live in optimism.

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Speaker 1: Jerry sells hopes and dreams. From the time he bought

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Speaker 1: this team in nineteen eighty nine. Jerry's been selling you

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Speaker 1: hopes and dreams. Right now, there's lack of hope. We

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Speaker 1: talk about the actions. What are we seeing? And that's

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Speaker 1: so different because Jerry's always been the guy selling hopes

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Speaker 1: and dreams. And what did he sell. Hell, he sold ambiguity.

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Speaker 4: Ambiguity. I like that word, ambiguity. He wore it out, Okay,

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Speaker 4: So so Hecker.

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Speaker 1: If I'm trying to sell you something, all right, If

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to sell heck my hairshoner suit. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: coming with hopes and dreams. I'm not coming some ambiguity now,

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Speaker 1: it's like ambiguity here, that's not selling. And for a

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Speaker 1: and what is it you're selling right now? It's hard.

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Speaker 1: The last three seasons you sold hopes and dreams of

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Speaker 1: You were selling me? What are you selling right now?

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Speaker 1: What's the hopes and dreams? It's none. Jerry talked about ambiguity,

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Speaker 1: and he's right, I mean honest, he's being honest. Yes,

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Speaker 1: me I don't know. We'll have to see. I've got questions,

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Speaker 1: Art is indicative of what I expect to see locally

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Speaker 1: for training camp. People are gonna come because it's the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: But what's the intensity level? What are you expecting considering

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals. You're starting to look around here

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Speaker 1: Where do you go next?

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Speaker 1: Jerry? Ambiguity? That's that's to me for a man who

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Speaker 4: But let me say this. This is a gentleman by

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Speaker 4: if you look, one of the smartest people I've ever

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Speaker 4: lot of times when I'm listening to our owner, because

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Speaker 4: we know that Jerry's a genius. Business wise, he is.

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Speaker 1: But what if.

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Speaker 4: Jerry already believes that you have that on your team,

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Speaker 4: not Christian McCaffrey, but a Trent Williams type and Tyler

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, Terrence Steele, a guy that has come on

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Speaker 4: that you've made be who he is right now as

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Speaker 4: but also Tyler Giden. You have a lot of talent

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Speaker 1: Wade and see is definitely a position I think a

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Speaker 1: He's about to go in year two of this offense.

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Speaker 4: The truth is, I mean Dak is a polarizing figure,

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Speaker 5: you know, without the ball in the quarterback hand, it's

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Speaker 5: gonna be havoc. So right now brock Hoffman is looking

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Speaker 5: like Superman.

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Speaker 4: Rock Hoffman is looking now what do you say about

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Speaker 4: the about the rookie coming in from Kansas State Cooper

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Speaker 4: bb uh. They also have flexed him over to guard

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Speaker 4: as well. What does that competition look like between them?

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Speaker 4: Even if Hoffman is the you know, the number one

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Speaker 4: at center, how is he looking obviously backing up Zach Martin.

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Speaker 5: He's a more confident guy at the guard position, naturally,

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Speaker 5: that's what he played a lot of in college. He's

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Speaker 5: a little bit more physically, he moves a little bit,

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Speaker 5: a lot quicker he at that guard position, but at

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Speaker 5: the center he's a little hesitant. A lot of times

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Speaker 5: you see him thinking about his snap, so he don't

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Speaker 5: have he don't get off with any physicality. He don't

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Speaker 5: move guys with the same flavor that he does when

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Speaker 5: he's at the guard. But as time go on, he

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Speaker 5: will get more and more comfortable. You can tell him.

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Speaker 5: He's the guy that wants and he works at it.

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Speaker 5: He's diligent in what he's trying to do. So but

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Speaker 5: it will take time. I mean, I know, by where

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Speaker 5: he's been drafted at in the third slot, we expect

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Speaker 5: a lot, but that is a difference from college to

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Speaker 5: playing with four grown men in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Three time Super Bowl champion Nate Newton joining us right

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Speaker 1: here on the players Lounge, brought to you by Aristocrat Gaming.

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Speaker 1: So let's move over to the left tackle position. They

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Speaker 1: take Tyler Geiden in the first round out of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: He's been missing time with the flu. He will not

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Speaker 1: practice today. Nate, what is your confidence level in this

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Speaker 1: young man right now? Starting at left tackle against the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns for Game.

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Speaker 5: One, and he came out of the gates looking great,

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Speaker 5: knew and hedman the first few days without past his

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Speaker 5: feet was great. He's moving. He still had to work

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Speaker 5: on his technique and then something happened. I guess this

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Speaker 5: flu kind of really threw him back because he started

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Speaker 5: getting a little bit inconsistent, and that's probably what he

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Speaker 5: started feeling weakend, and all of a sudden he just

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Speaker 5: disappeared for practice. But I will tell you this right here.

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Speaker 5: They have a kid right now at that left tackle position,

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Speaker 5: man named Awesome Richards, who played a lot last year

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Speaker 5: doing training camp and then in the preseason. I talked

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Speaker 5: with Mike Clart. They like him a lot. He's gotten

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Speaker 5: stronger from last year. He's always been able to stay

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Speaker 5: in front of guys. He's been looking good. He took

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Speaker 5: almost every snap because Tuma is out. He took almost

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Speaker 5: every snap with the first team, Yes, in the blue

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Speaker 5: and white practice that they now call it. So this

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Speaker 5: kid is looking good right now. I can't give you

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Speaker 5: an update on our first round pick because he's not

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Speaker 5: been in practice the last two or three days. But

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Speaker 5: Tuma is out. It has been out with her back,

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Speaker 5: and they just put Awesome rich is in a position

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Speaker 5: where he can truly compete for that swing tackle job.

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Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit more as time go on, because

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Speaker 5: we don't know if the first round pick can put

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Speaker 5: in enough days to show them unless they're just gonna

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Speaker 5: slide in there, like when they took my job and

494
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Speaker 5: gave it to everywhere. Hey, this is your job. You

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Speaker 5: know that can't happen too because he is the first

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Speaker 5: round pick man.

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Speaker 4: So it's weird that you say that because I was

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Speaker 4: going to bring that up. You mentioned on the broadcast

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Speaker 4: during the Blue and White about Big Eie Eric Williams

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Speaker 4: and how bringing in a character like Eric Williams, how

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Speaker 4: it installed that mental toughness in you guys as a group,

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Speaker 4: and that is something that everybody has been saying that

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys has been missing that mental toughness. Who is

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Speaker 4: a guy on this offensive line right now, Big Nate

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Speaker 4: that you would say, look, is he is the cold

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Speaker 4: be the big eu here today that we had back

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Speaker 4: in the nineties.

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Speaker 5: That's Tyler Smith. Big Eve was quiet, like like Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 5: In his first year, he didn't say much. His second year,

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Speaker 5: he took the job and not only did he say,

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Speaker 5: come on, you influence, it's time to butt some heads.

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Speaker 5: He was doing it. He was slinging people around. He

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Speaker 5: was competing at a high level against one of the

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Speaker 5: greatest players in Reggie White. So he not only started

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Speaker 5: talking about it, he started exemplifying it. And once that happened,

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Speaker 5: he started calling people out on fail like Dogby knew

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Speaker 5: you let that dude? Do you like that? So the

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Speaker 5: next day in practice, I had the mall, folks, dade,

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Speaker 5: I had to step my game up, and Tyler can

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Speaker 5: do this out here. If he choose to do that,

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Speaker 5: just start challenging people because he is that type of dude.

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Speaker 5: He is that guy.

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton joining us right here on the players Lounge,

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Speaker 1: brought you by Aristocrat Gaming. I'm new he Strutch along

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Speaker 1: with heck Maherrison. Nate is out in ou Star, California,

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Speaker 1: side of Dallas Cowboys training camp. Nate, take me back

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Speaker 1: year to the first round pick. What do you need

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Speaker 1: to see from? Basically this week is a preseason game

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Speaker 1: against the Rams. Until that first game, which would allow

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Speaker 1: you to feel comfortable with him starting against the Cleveland he.

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Speaker 5: Just knew it. He'd just have to start stacking up

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Speaker 5: good day after good day. It starts with the first

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Speaker 5: rup like he did. He was stacking up days when

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Speaker 5: they wasn't in past and even in the first day

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Speaker 5: of pass he started stacking up that good day after

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Speaker 5: good day technique, getting better technique, getting better using his hands,

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00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 5: not leaning. He was and all of a sudden, he

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Speaker 5: got six and we lost him. And so that's what

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Speaker 5: he has to come back. If he can come back

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Speaker 5: and be strong, because if you weak, I've dealt with

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Speaker 5: the flu and I've had those old these that pandemic

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Speaker 5: type symptoms. When you're weak, it's nothing you can do.

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Speaker 5: People will miss ound the youth and you would get

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Speaker 5: a bad read. The only way we get him back

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Speaker 5: is get him back, ramp him up, get him back

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Speaker 5: strong and feeling good like he was. I mean, at

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Speaker 5: least feeling good mentally he was when he first hit camp,

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Speaker 5: and then side building good day on good day, practice

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Speaker 5: better practice, better practice, and you just have to go sometime.

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Speaker 5: You have to put a guy in there to see

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Speaker 5: where he's at. And the only way you're gonna get

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Speaker 5: real football, and in today's football, is to play your guys.

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Speaker 5: That is the only way we would actually know if

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Speaker 5: he can ball out or not.

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Speaker 1: Let me follow this up, Nate. If Tyler Giden is

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Speaker 1: not ready to go and start and they're comfortable spells,

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Speaker 1: you got Miles Garrett against Cleveland, right, would it be

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Speaker 1: tuma or awesome? Richards as you're starting.

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Speaker 5: We just we have to let this thing play out.

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Speaker 5: We need. We don't want this thing to come down.

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Speaker 5: Who is the healthiest guy, because right now, awesome Richards.

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Speaker 5: If I had to start today, that that is who

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Speaker 5: Nate knew would take a chance on. That's just me now.

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Speaker 5: And I told hepta before the show when he called

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Speaker 5: me earlier, I said, man, that's a big jump from

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Speaker 5: no snaps after preseason last year to boom all the

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Speaker 5: snaps in preseason if the other guys don't work out,

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Speaker 5: to going into Miles Garrett. This is this is this

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Speaker 5: is one of man. Every time I look at Miles Garrett, man,

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Speaker 5: I wonder why Dallison try to rig something to get

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Speaker 5: this dude in the draft many years ago. This dude

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Speaker 5: is upbeat. He looked at he plays it and and

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Speaker 5: then exhudes that through it. I've listened to a couple

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Speaker 5: of interviews with him. Knew it. He rows his team up.

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Speaker 5: He is that guy. He is that man.

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Speaker 4: Well, speaking of on the other I'm going to go

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Speaker 4: on the other side. We talked enough about our offensive lineman,

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Speaker 4: but a guy that I'm excited to see get some

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Speaker 4: action is the Marvin Overshawan and Nate, I just got

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Speaker 4: to ask you about him and what you've seen from

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Speaker 4: him down in Knox Nary.

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Speaker 5: They got him on a snap count. This is one

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Speaker 5: guy that if you can make that jump right back

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Speaker 5: from major knee surgery or blown knee, he is that guy.

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Speaker 5: I mean I never believed it with Gallup, I never

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Speaker 5: leader was still, but I believe it with him. He

587
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Speaker 5: just don't care. And if he has any doubt, he

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Speaker 5: is willing to get on this practice field and just

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Speaker 5: work itself through it.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's a I don't know how to put it.

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Speaker 5: He's what confidence. If you look for the definition of confidence,

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Speaker 5: they have probably a picture of him in any dictionary

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Speaker 5: because he believes in all his art that he's did

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Speaker 5: the work. He's put in the work, he's put on

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Speaker 5: a few more pounds and you want to get in

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Speaker 5: and he want to show the world that overshown his back.

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Speaker 4: Now, Nate, you have played with and as friends with

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Speaker 4: one of the best cornerbacks to ever grace the field

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Speaker 4: and Deon Sanders. And I'm not putting this young man

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Speaker 4: in the same breath as Dion, but he had himself

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Speaker 4: one heck of a season last year. And that's darn Bland.

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Speaker 4: What about darn Bland In camp right now. Man, is

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Speaker 4: he a guy that looked like he's primed to have

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Speaker 4: another great season for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Bruh.

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Speaker 5: Every time they throw at him, he's either knocking it

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Speaker 5: down picking it off. He's just barely missing getting there.

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Speaker 5: He's playing with such great confidence right now, and he's

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Speaker 5: inspiring all these other young bloods out there to get

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Speaker 5: themself together. And this is how you play ball. And

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Speaker 5: once again we need to see is how he's gonna

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Speaker 5: respond because now he's gonna be challenged in some of

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Speaker 5: these games to get the number one receiver, I take

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Speaker 5: out the number two receivers because they believe it in

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Speaker 5: this kid. I mean, I mean he's the rally man.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know who tray Von Diggs is, I

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Speaker 5: know what he did before the ends, but he's a

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Speaker 5: rally man right now. He's the rally man in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: Nate, my last question for you then then Heckba will

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Speaker 1: get in one. I'm old enough to have covered you

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Speaker 1: back in the whole Saint Ed's days. Those practices were

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Speaker 1: built upon the iron sharpening iron of the offensive and

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Speaker 1: defensive lines. As much as people talk about the Triplets,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboy Super Bowl teams were very good on the

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Speaker 1: offensive defensive lines. Here. What are you seeing out of

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Speaker 1: this defensive line right now that gives you any hope?

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Speaker 1: And what is what are your concerns?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: The kid they drafted Machean Uhlan he he you can

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Speaker 5: see he got something in his neck.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 5: I mean you know what that word I'm looking for

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Speaker 5: just one? He got it in his neck. And you

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Speaker 5: can see that he's willing to work hard. That y'all

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Speaker 5: got excuse me, that's the Mojoe moment. But uh, this

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Speaker 5: kid is willing to work hard, and that's forcing uh

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Speaker 5: Shaun Sea and all these other guys get up off

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Speaker 5: their rear and do what they have to do. You know,

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Speaker 5: d Law gonna be d Law. How you doing, sir?

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Speaker 5: And you know, uh the other kid gonna be himself Parsons.

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Speaker 5: But we need for our inside guys. Uh, the first

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Speaker 5: round pick from a year ago commntioned. We need him

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Speaker 5: to pick it up. We need him to stacking good

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Speaker 5: day on good day. He's a moody kid and and

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Speaker 5: that and has no place. When you're a moodie kid

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Speaker 5: on defense and you ain't know one hundred per lightside guy,

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Speaker 5: you have no space. You have no time for that.

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Speaker 5: He has to he has to realize that he has

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Speaker 5: a purpose, and that purpose is to be the best

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Speaker 5: run stop he can be in the middle of the

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Speaker 4: All right, Nate, So we've been having a little discussion

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Speaker 4: here about a player on offense, and I look, big fella,

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Speaker 4: you know I trust it. If you say it now,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna run to the bank. I'm gonna cast that

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Speaker 4: check if you say it. But people believe, Okay, Newly

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Speaker 4: Struggs believes that Hunter.

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Speaker 5: Lipken Lipki the fourth is the third down Yes, I

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Speaker 5: told you that earlier, the third down guy. Right now,

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Speaker 5: when Dak run up, when they say the drill, when

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Speaker 5: they say third and home, when they stay second and long,

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Speaker 5: Marna Lipt, you come running out there, man, looking like

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Speaker 5: an old old beach killer. You know what I'm saying, So.

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Speaker 1: Is your man.

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Speaker 5: Until they find somebody better, and right now, I don't

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Speaker 5: think Coach McCarthy looking for that somebody better.

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Speaker 1: All right, Nate, gone, man, gone, watch practice, man, Ate,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, man joining the cr Nate, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. That is Nate Newton and I from Oxnard, California.

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Speaker 1: Right here on the players line. I'm just gonna go

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Speaker 1: to break right on that with what Nate said. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna let you sit and marinate. And what Nate

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Speaker 1: Newton had to say about el boogie okay onnther left

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Speaker 1: key from now on is el boogie. You got McCarthy

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Speaker 1: out there saying, come on, l boogie, get on out here.

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Speaker 1: I was ahead of the curve, now you got it.

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Speaker 1: Three times super Bowl champion, a black college football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer, backing up what I've said on the playoff.

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Speaker 1: That's it, Nate, baby, you didne made my day.

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Speaker 5: I made my day, all right.

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Speaker 1: Now, God bless you baby. We're gonna take our break,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and just you know, marinate on what Nate

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Speaker 1: at Cowboy training camp has tweeted that Jalen Brooks is

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Speaker 1: now headed to the injury tent and that he tweeted

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Speaker 1: that out three minutes ago. Royce Freeman eight minutes ago,

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Speaker 1: at practice already at Oxtar, California. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: And no, by the way, Royce Freeman went from the tent.

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Speaker 1: Now he's going to the locker room. So not good.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's start this day all over again. You

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Speaker 4: want to do the intro for the show again? God,

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Speaker 4: that ain't how you want to start trading your camp.

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Speaker 4: That is not the way you want to start practice.

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Speaker 4: Right there, you.

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Speaker 1: Spoke about the Rams game. We were just doing the

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Speaker 1: pre show. What about it? Like, who's gonna play? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean this is this is now With the way

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Speaker 1: things are going here, you can't risk guys to injury

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Speaker 1: in the game. You just really can't. So we'll see,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Now there's certain guys who need to play,

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Speaker 1: like Mozzie Smith, he needs to play the guys that

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Speaker 1: need to get out there. So you would ask after

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Speaker 1: our first break about Dak Prescott and and people so

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Speaker 1: wanting to base his pay off playoff success, and that's

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Speaker 1: just not how it works. It's never been that way

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Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. I mean, for years, Matthew Stafford was one

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Speaker 1: of the highest paid guys around here, and matt didn't

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Speaker 1: have any playoff success. But until he got to the

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Speaker 1: Rams that he got it. Kirk Cousins made a living

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Speaker 1: without playoff success. It's cashing major checks. Here's a guy

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Speaker 1: coming off an Achilles and he got paid again. So

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Speaker 1: I just find it very interesting that there's this big

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Speaker 1: hole bar of what Dak Prescott has to prove and

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Speaker 1: do when other people who do not have the resume

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Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott have not gone through it year two

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Speaker 1: in a Mike McCarthy offense in which he led the

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Speaker 1: league in touchdown passes. I don't know exactly what else

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Speaker 1: you want or need to see. The frustrating part if

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Speaker 1: you were Dak Prescott and you're in the Dak camp

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Speaker 1: is that he continues to have to go through this

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Speaker 1: With the Cowboys. Troyman never had to do this. No

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo never had to go through this type of

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Speaker 1: doubt from the owner. Those two guys were always written,

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Speaker 1: were had checks. And now I'm kind of going back

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Speaker 1: and remember exactly what you said. Here's why I think

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Speaker 1: Dak does get paid here. Yes, I was working here

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Speaker 1: when Troy Aikman retired and they were lost in the woods.

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Speaker 1: Tony Banks, Quincy Cardinal, Oh oh oh, then you went

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Speaker 1: to Clint Sterners.

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Speaker 4: You could, hey, at any moment, don't make me ride

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Speaker 4: that train, which I get it.

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Speaker 1: We were bad at the quarterback position for a long time.

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Speaker 1: And and Jerry at eighty one years old does not

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Speaker 1: have a solution unless Trey Lance comes out here someday

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Speaker 1: and balls out like crazy. Your reaction and other people's

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Speaker 1: reaction is this, ain't it?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 1: In my mind, Dak Prescott has the leverage and waiting

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Speaker 1: around is not going to help you. The prices keep

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Speaker 1: going up. There is no liquidation market on franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: There's no buy one, get one free of seventy percent

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Speaker 1: off of hometown. That Tom Brady disc count stuff is gone.

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Speaker 1: People aren't doing that, so you might as well get

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Speaker 1: it done. If he does not have this quarterback next year.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is very confident in what's behind

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Speaker 1: door number two. There are no quarterbacks on the roster

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five. Hecna, no Lance Rush Prescott. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing there. And it's not like we're sitting up here

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Speaker 1: talking about there's a whole bunch of quarterbacks that are

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Speaker 1: ready to go in this draft, and you don't even

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Speaker 1: know where you're going to be right now to secure

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Speaker 1: one of those quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Now, look, you've taken finance classes. You know leverages everything

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Speaker 4: in a negotiation, and right now it looks like Dak

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Speaker 4: has all the leverage. But he who controls the money

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Speaker 4: controls the policy, and Jerry is going to control what

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Speaker 4: happens next with Dak's contract.

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Speaker 1: I don't I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: Even going back to those early years that Dak was

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Speaker 4: coming to contract negotiations, they just opted to sign Zeke

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Speaker 4: instead of signing Dak. The mo of the front office

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Speaker 4: has been to kick the can down the road until okay,

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Speaker 4: we are just sure that we're sure that this is

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Speaker 4: our guy. And to me, look for all those people

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Speaker 4: that have an opinion about Dak that says, look, he

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Speaker 4: needs to win a Super Bowl or at least get

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Speaker 4: this team to the NFC Championship. I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 4: You don't judge these other guys based off of that.

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Speaker 4: So it's really unfair in nature to judge Dak on that.

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Speaker 4: But you understand here the Dallas Cowboys, it's going to

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Speaker 4: go that way. And if they reset the market with

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Speaker 4: Dak and you're not able to resign other superstars to blame,

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Speaker 4: the fingers are going to be pointed right back at

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Speaker 4: him if he doesn't get this team to that point.

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Speaker 1: When we knew when he signed the contract there would

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Speaker 1: be a market reset, and it was. We saw it

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Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray right out of the gate. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be keep getting reset. That's just the nature of

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Speaker 1: this position. Whatever he signs, it will be reset again.

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Speaker 1: So just jump in there. Honestly, in my opinion, when

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts got paid, they should have paid him to automatically.

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Speaker 1: You knew where it was going, right, knew where it

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Speaker 1: was going the same thing with these receivers. You know,

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Speaker 1: once A J. Brown got paid, you know, signed CD lame.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they keep waiting. Obviously they have money.

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Speaker 1: Jerry's gonna sign a check, but it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, this was fun time survey. We will uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll do it again next week. Look, Cowboys first preseason

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Speaker 1: game against the Dams. I know that I'll be interested

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Speaker 1: to see what the offensive line is looking like. Who's healthy?

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Speaker 1: You got to get Tyler got out here to get

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Speaker 1: some reps, all right. Heck man, good talking to me,

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