1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Tiffany Oshinsky, and this is Serving Pancakes NOE. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: Not a podcast about food. This is a podcast about 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: volleyball and more to you. A pancake is a fluffy, 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: syrup drenched breakfast food, but in volleyball, a pancake is 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: a high effort move when a player flattens her hand 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: against the ground to keep the ball in play. And 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: that's us digging into high efforts that are moving sports forward. 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Listen in as I talk with people making the biggest 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: impacts on global volleyball and women's sports perspectives, insights, and 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: behind the scenes stories, all with the side of pancakes. 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Today's episode features one of the greatest US women's volleyball 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: players ever, Jordan Larson. Known as the Governor, Jordan has 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: dominated the sport for nearly two decades. While at Nebraska, 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: she was named an All American three times and helped 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: the Cornhuskers win the two thousand and six and national championship. 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Jordan is also a three time Olympic medalist who is 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: instrumental in helping Team USA win their first gold in 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: the sport at the Tokyo Olympics. And now Jordan will 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: return home to Nebraska to play for love. Omaha, Hi Jordana, 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm on in so excited you here to have the seat. 21 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: We had some delicious pancakes, so I gotta ask you 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: to start. If you were creating your own signature pancake, 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: what's the Jordan Marsen special? 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, well, I'm a sucker for some chocolates, so 25 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: I probably put a little neutel on there, and then 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: I would probably do a fruit so I'd probably do 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: some strawberries. 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: We get it. 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: Then I would probably just top it with a little 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: bit of srup. 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: Oh I know. So, Jordan, you had an amazing career. 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: You still have an amazing career. I don't want to 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: end it right now. Yeah, so when you were bored 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: now I'm just kidding. No, I'm curious. So before volleyball, 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: what did you want to be when you grew up? 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, Well, my dad was a teacher, and so 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: I think I ultimately kind of wanted to follow that path. 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: Now what that looked like, I'm not sure. I think 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: actually have a letter that I wrote to myself like 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to be a teacher one day, like way before. 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: But ultimately I always just really wanted to be a 42 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: professional athlete, but I don't know what that looked like 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: or meant. 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would say a teacher. What kind of 45 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: teacher he did, like Jen ed. 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: So he did taw a lot of like AutoCAD and 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: kind of very applicable things that a lot of kids 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: maybe if they didn't want to go to college, that 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: they had for other things, construction all that stuff. So 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: that's kind of what he did. And then he taught 51 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: drivers at as well. I taught me how to drive, 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: so all the successful driving is on my dad, So yeah, 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: I know it's it was cool, amazing. 54 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I read at one point you wanted to be 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: an Olympic gymnast. Is that's true? Yeah? 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: So I one of my very first memories of the 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: Olympics was in the kitchen with my mom. She would 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: always be cooking and I would be sitting at the 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: bar and we had this white TV that kind of swiveled, 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: you know, and the Olympics were on. The gymnasts were 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: like flipping around and I was just at that point 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: I was doing gymnastics and I was like, oh, this 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: could be enjoyable. And then I grew over six feet 64 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: and that dream ended, so uh no, but I just 65 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: watching them like it was just amazing, like what they're 66 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: doing with their bodies and their minds and I don't know, 67 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: it's just really intriguing. So it's kind of started that 68 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: initial initial thought and dream. 69 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: At the Magnificent seven Carrie Straw dumb dumb, Yes it 70 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: was stomach Dund's Yes, Wow, gosh, that was long. I'm 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: right there, like, yeah, sorry, we can at least you 72 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: can remember right now. Oh I remember because I was 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: a gymnast too. Then exactly, yeah, same same dream. 74 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: Mine ended a little Yeah, I did a little different, 75 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: but still a similar path. 76 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. So when did you get introduced the volleyball? Oh? 77 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: Goodness? So actually my parents did a great job. They 78 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: kind of threw me in a lot of things. So 79 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: I started out with soccer, gymnastics. Yeah, I tried everything. 80 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: I was in the band. I played the piano like 81 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: I because I had really long fingers smell. I was like, 82 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: you're going to learn how to do that, and that 83 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: was not my fortunay, so but yeah, and then vulleyball 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: started by dad was a basketball coach and so I 85 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: played softball as well. So just kind of really got 86 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: a taste of everything, and then I really fell in 87 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: love with volleyball. And then that's kind of when I mean, 88 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: col volleyball has been around for a while, but the 89 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: talk wasn't especially in small town. I didn't really hear 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: about it until I was kind of turning twelve, and 91 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: that's when I really started diving into more of that. 92 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: But I really just fell in love the sport. Speaking 93 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: of small town, I mean, your town was what eight 94 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: hundred people? Yeah Asian, I'm like fifty something, fifty eight 95 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: or something. 96 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird to think that, like that's where it 97 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: all started because I was so nervous and scared to leave. 98 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: You know, I was scared to leave the state. You know, 99 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: when you're born and raised there, you have a great 100 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: sense of community. And I just feel very lucky that 101 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: the roots started there and kind of got to expand. 102 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: But now, I just I wouldn't change this life for anything. 103 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm just really grateful for my parents to 104 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: keep encouraging me. And if it was up to me, 105 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: I probably would have stayed home. 106 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: So is that part of the reason why he wanted 107 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: to go to Nebraska. 108 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it was just an easy choice obviously, They're 109 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: a very well known program, very good. They were number 110 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: one when I went there, and I. 111 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: Just want hey, guys, it's me. I just want to 112 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: take a quick moment to explain how good Nebraska was 113 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: when Jordan decided to play for them, because she's so 114 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: humble about it. So when Jordan joined Nebraska in two 115 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: thousand and five, they had already won two NCUBA championships 116 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five and two thousand and we're the 117 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: Big Twelve Conference champs seven of the previous nine seasons. 118 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: John Cook became the corn Huskers head coach in two 119 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: thousand and a lot of their winning ways can be 120 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: attributed to him. 121 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: At the helm. 122 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: I mean, Nebraska has won three more times two thousand 123 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: and six with Larsen, twenty fifteen and twenty seventeen. Since then, 124 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: and they have not missed an NCAA tournament appearance since 125 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. I know, right all right back to Jordan. 126 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just want to my family to be 127 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: at a lot of games. So it was really just 128 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: an obvious choice. So in the state, it just really 129 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: loved Nebraska, so it's it was quite easy. 130 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: So let's talk about when you were in high school 131 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: and the recruiting process. When did you know that you 132 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: were like different beyond you don't know when that actually hit. 133 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I was just in general, like just. 134 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: A good athlete. You know. Again, I did all. 135 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: These other sports, and I think my parents really did 136 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: a good job of even doing extra like I was 137 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: doing like speed and agility, like I was trying to 138 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: do other things outside just sports. But yeah, I think 139 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: when you know, I was actually talking to a coach 140 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: of mine from the past and they're like, yeah, in 141 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: every club tournament, they're just like the court just surrounded, 142 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: you know, like with college coaches and like eyes were 143 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 2: on and so yeah, I would say probably my freshman year, 144 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: maybe eighth grade year was kind of when I was 145 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: starting to realize that maybe my dream of being a 146 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: college athlete was going to come true. 147 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: And that's a long time ago. Honestly, I thought, though, Well, 148 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, because you came from such 149 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: a small town, where was your club team in relation? 150 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 1: Did you have to drive far? Yeah? 151 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: So my first club team was actually Premiere Volleyball Club 152 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: and it was in Omaha. So Omaha is about like 153 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: a forty five minute to an hour drive. So yeah, 154 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: if you're practicing twice a week in the tournaments on 155 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: the weekend, like that was a long time in the car. Again, 156 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: grateful for my parents for one the financial sacrifice and 157 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: also just the time commitment. I also remember we bought 158 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: a suburban because it allowed me to like stretch my 159 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: legs in the back like as we're traveling, and obviously 160 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: lay down and be able to get some sleep while 161 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: we're traveling. 162 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm just really really grateful. When I was playing Chloe, 163 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,559 Speaker 1: I had to drive forty five minutes soon now also 164 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: to get to my team, and my mom bought the 165 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: mini van with the TV and the VHS play. Oh 166 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: the VHS game change it really was. It is crazy. Yeah. 167 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: I had the portable like the portal ones player for 168 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: a while, and then. 169 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: I think we did finally upgrade to the yeah, the 170 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: one in the in the car. 171 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, with the wireless head. I was like, this is lucksharing. 172 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: But I was short, so it was easier for me 173 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: to be in. 174 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, no great Yeah, And my parents didn't 175 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: like to fly, so it was just like we're road 176 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: tripping all the time. 177 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: So if we played in Minnesota or Colorreado, we drove it. Yeah, 178 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: we drove. 179 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: My mom was not a great flyer. But honestly, now 180 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: looking back, it was great time with family. 181 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: It was. It was really nice. It's so fun road trips. Oh, 182 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: I heard it's kind of yeah boring, it is. 183 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: It's very flat, you know, but you know, we always 184 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: tried to play games in the car or listen to 185 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: music and watch movies as they could mention. Yeah, so 186 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: it was good, amazing. 187 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: So I read also that John Cook when he came 188 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: to visit you once at your high school after the 189 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: game ended, you stayed and basically shook everyone's hand. 190 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 191 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Where did you find that humbleness in your personality? 192 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Again? I could assume my parents. 193 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: I mean they always just said, you know, I always 194 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 2: think whoever to come, and that was just was ingreted 195 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: from like from the very beginning. And so and I 196 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: also think my parents did such a good job. Like 197 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: sometimes my stepdad was trying to get my mom out 198 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: of the building because she was just chatting up with somebody. 199 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: So I think it's just something that they've really tried 200 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: to ingrain in me from a young age. 201 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: And I just also think that people are taking. 202 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: Time out of their day to come watch, and you know, 203 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: showing appreciation. 204 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: For that is huge. 205 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: And I didn't even know this, but my dad said 206 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: that the generation before, like my grandpa, never really attended 207 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: any of his game like it was I think obviously 208 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: they were farming and doing all these things, and my 209 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: grandpa didn't never missed a game of mind. So it's 210 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: just even I don't know, just even more appreciation that 211 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: they're taking time out of their schedule to be there 212 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: and to be present and support me and my my dreams. 213 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: So make sure and selfless. 214 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: And I mean, yeah, I also, I mean I think, 215 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: like you know, Nebraska's special and that I think we 216 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: just have really good people and people that care. 217 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: And I know, just showing that is huge. 218 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: So I know, I've always just tried to keep that 219 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: too in the forefront as my career has gone on, 220 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: of you know, you're going to meet a lot of 221 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: different people, and my mom is just very about like 222 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: being a sponge, like taking it all in and just 223 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: enjoying the moment. And so I've really tried to keep 224 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: that in the back of my mind of really how 225 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 2: I wanted to be and to be good teammate and 226 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: all that stuff. 227 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, so you joined Nebraska five and then 228 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 1: O six you win a title? Yes, well was that 229 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: like going from you know, small town high school, dominant player, 230 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: amazing player, but then going to like college and then 231 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: so fast winning and title still so surreal. 232 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: I think what was humbling for me was that my 233 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: freshman year I only had one kill in the final. 234 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: Is like, okay, did we get to do better? 235 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 2: But it was I mean, obviously the team was great, 236 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: and I think we learned a lot of lessons that 237 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: year and O five and how we wanted to be 238 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: better going into six, and I think we made a 239 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: lot of great changes, and culturally we were just very 240 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: sound and yeah, just grewing up a small town and 241 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 2: being able to represent my little small town but also 242 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: the state. It was huge and the huge honor and yeah, 243 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: it's still one of my favorite memories of the all time. 244 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: So when did the nickname the Governor come into pool? 245 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? That was a little bit further after college. It 246 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: was like my second year in the national team. We 247 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 2: were in Thailand and the games are finished and like 248 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: a guy is standing at the end with a red 249 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: shirt on, like waving me down and Lucas, Like Fluca 250 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: is one of my ex teammates, one of my really 251 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: good friends. 252 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: And the guy was there and he's like, I know 253 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: your dad and like. 254 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: He's from Nebraska, and like Luca's like seriously, like we're 255 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: all the way in Thailand. And so she's telling this 256 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: story to her brother, and her brother's like, well, of 257 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: course she's the governor. And Feluca's really good with nicknames, 258 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: like so good that like you have to start responding 259 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: because so every day after practice she's like gouvna ye 260 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: gummy like and finally, I like change my Instagram handle 261 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: as a joke. Now if I try to change it, 262 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: it's like contact Instagram and I'm just like a hasshole. 263 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: It's just but now it's just become kind of funny. 264 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: I actually saw the governor of Nebraska like two months 265 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: ago and he's like Governor and I was like, this 266 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: is weird. That's it just so it's so funny. So 267 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 2: it's it's now it's now become yeah kind of a thing. 268 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: I love that that's such a good nickname. First, I 269 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: bet it's stuck in that Governor of Nebraska is like 270 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: all of that. It's just amazing. It's so funny. It's 271 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: so funny. So when you were in Nebraska, when did 272 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: you know you wanted to go pro? And when did 273 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: you know that you were going to take this next step? Yeah? 274 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: So I actually when I was twelve, I actually set 275 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: three goals. I wanted to start in high school. I 276 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: wanted to go to college to play volleyball. And then 277 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: I think even at that age, I was walking around 278 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: saying like, I'm going to be an Olympian. And I 279 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: don't know at that time if I knew what that meant, 280 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: but I think when I got to college, like that 281 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 2: was always kind of Coach Cook always knew that was 282 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: a goal of mine, and I think he did a 283 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: really good job of kind of keeping that as a reminder, 284 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: Like as far as certain behaviors or technical things that 285 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: I was doing, he was like, hey, this can lead 286 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: you down to where you want to be, you know. 287 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: And I just always appreciated that as a reminder of 288 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: just like it may be hard now, but like where 289 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: you want to go, it's going to be worth it. 290 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: I've always had that dream, but I think going to 291 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: college helped kind of build those stepping stones to like 292 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: the next level. 293 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: So you guys did in eight correct this December? Hedge Yep, yep. 294 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: I mean I've talked to a bunch of the girls 295 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: on the team right now, and you know, a lot 296 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: of them graduated in the teens late teens and went pro. 297 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: So this is alway, this is ten years before that. 298 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: About what was it like to go pro at that time? Yeah, 299 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: it was. 300 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: Still just so much unknown. Actually, I remember asking one 301 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: of our alumnis Nancy Metcalf. She was kind of one 302 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: that Allison Weston had been on the national team before, 303 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: but I didn't have a connection to her. Per see, 304 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: she was a little bit older than me. But Nancy 305 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: was kind of in and around and still playing pro 306 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 2: and coming back that she was present enough that I 307 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: could ask a lot of questions. 308 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: And again, I think the navigating. 309 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: Of information just wasn't there. You know, it was like 310 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: what do we think of this team? And you know, 311 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: there's just not a lot of information. 312 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: So now facebook to talk to agents, it was exactly exactly, 313 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: nothing really connecting. 314 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: And so I think learning from her and kind of 315 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: just general questions to ask, even contract stuff things really 316 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: helped me set a foundation of like, all right. 317 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: What are we getting into and then how can we 318 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: go from here? So I'm gonna lie. I was scary. 319 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: Like I said, if I was up to me, I 320 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: probably wouldn't left Nebraska. 321 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: You know. 322 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: It was just very I was a home body and 323 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: so my parents and you know, had a great support 324 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: system to kind of help me navigate that. But there 325 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: was still a lot of unknowns at that time. Now 326 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. I mean, it's cool to see how much 327 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: information is out there. 328 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And I also saw that I guess 329 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, AVP was trying to recruit 330 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: you to play beach. Is this true? 331 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well they were doing like like an indoor beach series, 332 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: so they were doing like a travel thing, and so 333 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: they actually came to Ohan and did an indoor beach series, 334 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: and I remember going and watching and thinking that that 335 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: was an option. And the one thing about beach I 336 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: think that's also evolved over time. But then it was 337 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: just like it was just really hard to make a living, 338 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: you know, it was like you had to play and 339 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: then have a second job. And I just didn't know 340 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: if that was for me at that moment. And so 341 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: that made that decision pretty easy. That I really just 342 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: wanted to commit to pro and then national team indoor 343 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: and then see after that, see where that took me. 344 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: But I'm still kind of intrigued. But I'm like, what, 345 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: you know, beach, you never know. I was gonna say it, 346 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: like it's beach. Maybe it's still in your future. I know, 347 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: and you examined it. When did corscra like, you know, 348 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: officially move from indoor to beach? I mean he was older, 349 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: so I'm kind of like, well, I don't know. You 350 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: never close the door, so we'll see. 351 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm not just making any promises, you know, exactly. Just 352 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: got to throw that out there. I'm guessing. So I 353 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: want to talk about the twenty twenty Olympics. Yeah, I 354 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: guess twenty twenty one Tokyo. At this time, you know, 355 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: you had been to two other Olympics before you went 356 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: to Silver. You went to Bronze and I art your 357 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: third Olympics. But a lot of these girls on your 358 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: team it was their first time. So what was it 359 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: like kind of being you know, this queen the veteran 360 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: with these girls who idolized you and used to watch 361 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: you play and playing together at this team. 362 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm getting chills singing about it. It's I still 363 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: can't believe it. Honestly, it's I don't even know how 364 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: to like put into words because it's the way we 365 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: went about it. I think if you would ask the 366 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: majority of us in twenty twenty if the Olympics were 367 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: at the time, I don't know if we would have 368 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: been ready. But I think with COVID it allowed us 369 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: time and clarity to have a lot of conversation and 370 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: how to build a culture that we desired and wanted, 371 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: and gave us a lot of clarity that when we 372 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: did come back in the gym in twenty twenty one, 373 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: we all knew exactly what we had to do to execute. 374 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: We all knew exactly what it was going to be. 375 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: And how we went about just the Olympic Games, right, 376 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: you know, going three zero three zero three, oh, like 377 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: quarterfinals something like I don't even know if that's maybe 378 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: happened maybe one more time in history, Like it's crazy. 379 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: So but I'm just really proud of how we kind 380 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: of set a precedent of how we wanted to be 381 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: in the gym and then you just see the result 382 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: at the end. But I think all of us, well, yes, 383 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: winning a gold medal is huge. I think we all 384 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: just resonate with the process that it took to get there, 385 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: and for me, it was just icing on the cake. 386 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: It was like, you know, you feel like you're doing 387 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: the right thing, and like you come up short a 388 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: couple of times and then you feel like you get 389 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: another chance. You're like, all right, literally, I'm I've done everything, 390 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: so you know, if I know, I get it, like 391 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: it is what it is, you know, So it's yeah, 392 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: it's really special. 393 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: Did you have an idea like going into that gold 394 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: medal match that like this was the year? Yeah, I 395 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: mean I definitely, but I was so emotional, like I 396 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: was me again. There were many reasons why Jordan was 397 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: so emotional before that match, which we'll get to in 398 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: just a second, but to give you an idea of 399 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: how important this game was for Team USA, volleyball became 400 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: an Olympic sport back in nineteen sixty four, and it 401 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: took fifty seven years for the US women's national team 402 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: to win their first gold medal at the Tokyo Olympics. 403 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: All right, well, now let's get back to the other 404 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: reasons why this match meant so much for Jordan. 405 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: I took a shower that I'm wearying, like crying in 406 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: the shower, Like I was seeing one of my best friends, 407 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: like Feluka that was gonna be my last time, like 408 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: playing with her. Were driving into Gold I'm like looking 409 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: over like bowling, and she's like. 410 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 411 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: We're about to go play for a gold medal, and 412 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't know, Like I just I 413 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: felt something that I was like, this is it and 414 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: I knew that this is it, and so yeah, it 415 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: just really was just beautiful. 416 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: Not honestly thanks to Hank yeah icing, yeah, yeah, you 417 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: had said that winning the gold medal was kind of 418 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: your way of proving people who said you're playing, why 419 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: she's still playing? Yes, exactly exactly. So how did it 420 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: make you feel when you did actually win this, being 421 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, older than a lot of the other girls. 422 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 2: I think it validated that you can stay in it 423 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 2: longer than you ever expected. I think what's hard is like, 424 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 2: as a female, you know, this desire to have a family. 425 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: It's like kind of this teeter totter of the timing 426 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: of that and like how to get back and you know, 427 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: I think there's just a lot of questions on the 428 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: female side of all those things. But I think if 429 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: you do things, I'm gonna say, do things right or 430 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: you know, some people don't have the control of maybe 431 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: injury or things like that. But I think getting after 432 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: in the weight room, nutrition, I just think that like 433 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: taking care of your body and understanding. 434 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: But a lot of it's mindset. 435 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: It's really like if I could tell anybody that's starting 436 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: out or even in the trenches of like how to 437 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: be a high performer, like mental performance, sports psychology, like 438 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: it is what your brain can control on situation is huge, 439 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: and what you tell yourself. I mean, I felt like 440 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: I was still in really good shape and Tokyo probably 441 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: the best shape I've ever been in. But a lot 442 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: too his mindset of like overcoming body aches and all 443 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: those things like was very real. My mind was strong, 444 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: and also the support around me is huge. 445 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: Well, I mean a lot of athletes are playing longer. Say, 446 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: I mean you got Lebron James, he's thirty nine. Y 447 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: serena woman was retired at forty one. Yep, Tom Brady 448 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: retired and retired retired at forty five. But like that's 449 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: a long career for these I mean mine is Syriena, 450 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: but she's the lateral movements in tennis and stuff. But 451 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, contact sports and everything and volley blah, but 452 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: jumping the knees and everything like that. So what do 453 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: you say to the people who do say you're too old? 454 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I it's warranted. I get it, you know, 455 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: I understand. 456 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: And I never thought that I would be in it 457 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: this long, to be honest, I you know, I joked 458 00:19:59,280 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: that I. 459 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: Was judging people, but I was like, what else are 460 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: you doing? Like, what are you doing? 461 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: You know, with your life to some degree, but I 462 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: don't know. I still love it and I still enjoy 463 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 2: coming to work every day. And everybody that has retired, 464 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: they're like, I wish I would have stayed in a longer. 465 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of like, if I can. 466 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: Still do it at the level that I want to do. 467 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: It, why not? 468 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: And I don't know, And I just I'm finding little 469 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: ways to like do things differently. And now it's more 470 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: of how can I help the next generation and how 471 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: can I you know, I feel like this defending of 472 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: none of what we want because I think that you 473 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: can get caught up in results and all that stuff. 474 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: But depending on how we went about it, and that's 475 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: learning how to be a good teammate, like showing up 476 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: for one another. Because the USA gym is really competitive. 477 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: We're training with thirty at times, you know, when people 478 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: are constantly changing, and so how do we create a 479 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: standard that's that shows the way and how to do it? 480 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: So that's kind of really where the. 481 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: Role I've taken on is just learning and helping these 482 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: young younger kids coming in the gym. It's kind of 483 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: where I and my happiness. 484 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: I love that. So I just listened to a podcast 485 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: with Billy Jean King and she had this line where 486 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: she said leaders don't choose followers. Followers choose leaders. Oh wow, right, 487 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: very pointing out us the Billy Sheen. But you know 488 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: you're a leader. So what do you think through your career, 489 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: how did you find that leadership inside you? How did 490 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: you manage to let your followers come to you. 491 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: I would say it's definitely evolved over time, and I've 492 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: had to continue to learn. I think early on in 493 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: my career was lead by example, and I still think 494 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: I kind of cater to that side of it, but 495 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: learning now how to flex my voice and kind of 496 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: being able to articulate like what I see and how 497 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 2: I see it. I think that has been huge, But 498 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: I think just I was talking to the girls a 499 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: little bit today of just like I always keep in 500 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: the back of my mind like legacy, like when I 501 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: step away, how do I want to feel internally of 502 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: how I approached every day and how I tried to 503 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: do the best I could personally, but then also how 504 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: I could help those around me, and keeping that always 505 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: in the forefront, because when I step away, whenever that is, 506 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: I want to know like how people thought of my 507 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: time and the time that I gave to the sport. 508 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: So that's really where a lot of my motivation has 509 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: come from. 510 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: And I think leader is always such a heavy word 511 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: because you don't think of it in the moment. 512 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: You know, you're just doing your job and you're showing 513 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: up and trying to be the best you can. So 514 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: it's been a fun process trying to learn, and I've 515 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: just had so many examples before me of like just 516 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: true honest leadership and kind of understanding what they do 517 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: and how they do and then how can I still 518 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: be true to me and authentic to me, because that's 519 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: important as well. 520 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: Have you ever had any doubts, oh laita cheese? Oh yeah, 521 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: thrilled out as like my yeah, I'm an overthinker. I'm 522 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: a librev. I don't know, right, I don't know that 523 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: like othah, but he's trying to find the balance exactly exactly. 524 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: But I think it's always also keep me in check. 525 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: I think this general curiosity of how to get better 526 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: is huge for me, and but sometimes I can't sit 527 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: in that for too long because I feel like I'm 528 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 2: just remaining and I like I can't. I'm like I 529 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: need to be like learning something or doing something. And 530 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: so yeah, I think that doubt is a real thing. 531 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 2: And I also encourage athletes today like fear is fear 532 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: and doubt and anxiety and game like it all normal. 533 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: We all had it right, Like if someone tells you 534 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: they don't, then for me, they're they're not like real, right, 535 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: because it's like all those emotions come, but you just 536 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: get better at managing as you get older. It's being 537 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: able to acknowledge the fear or acknowledge the emotion and 538 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: then be able to not sit in it but move 539 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: through it. 540 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: In similar vain, how have you handled burnout because playing 541 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: for so long I'm yeah, sure at some point, no, yeah. 542 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely, you know, but I still think that 543 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: I'm like living my drain, like at the end of 544 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: the day, like I always try to come back to 545 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: that of just like, yeah, it's hit me at times, 546 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: and especially I. 547 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: Think Overseas was definitely tougher. But I don't know. 548 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: I just love competition. I love getting after it every day. Yeah, 549 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: I just keep pushing on. 550 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to paraphrase Danny Railhaus from Tim Lasso here 551 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: for akaecond and for you, I feel like volleyball is wife, right, 552 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I know you do other things, yes, 553 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: So what do you do when you're not on the court? 554 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: What are the Jordan Larson fun day off day? 555 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: Volleyball is life for me, It really is. It's I 556 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: can watch all the time and talk about it all 557 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: the time. But I do think that the high performance 558 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: side of like the mental capacity just even you know, 559 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: I love getting to know other people's like what makes 560 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 2: sim tick, like having those conversations like really like inspire me. 561 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: I like to golf, I enjoy, Yeah, I enjoy just 562 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: having nice dinners with family and friends, like just sharing time, 563 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: like we. 564 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: Could do anything. 565 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: I really am a pretty good with full kind of person, 566 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: and so I kind of have fun doing pretty much everything. 567 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I spend my time. 568 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: Nice dinner is less about the food more about the 569 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: company court. 570 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also like I'm a litt about like 571 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: a bougie, a little bogie I know, I know she 572 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 2: like that, like a good you know, like I've had 573 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 2: No Blue a couple of times, unbelievable sushi. 574 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: It's like with that experience black cod, Oh my god, 575 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: it's amazing. But then they can take you through this 576 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: whole experience. You don't know what you're going to get. 577 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: Like that is I signed me up? That's me? So golf, 578 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: are you good? Yes? 579 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: You know, I would like to say I'm like decent, 580 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: Like I I golf with some guy friends and they 581 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: always give me like a stroke ahole. 582 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: So I mean I'm not like, yeah, like I feel 583 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: like that's okay. 584 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: So what's also just going out and like just enjoying 585 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: the course and having a few drinks and you know 586 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 2: more just it's not the competitive side really of me 587 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: that comes out. It's more of just like I'm out 588 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: here just to have a good time. So but I 589 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: also love golf. Yeah, Now we play for putts. 590 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: Have you ever done that? 591 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: Which kind of makes it a little more fun when 592 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 2: my families do that. One of my family members does 593 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: that where you all get to the green and then 594 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: you count how many putt and then at the end 595 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: you like how I. 596 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: Would lose every time? Putting is not the way for you. 597 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes I end up I mark my whole as an 598 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: infinity because I won't even finished. 599 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: I've built that a few times too, and when the 600 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: weather's beautiful, it's like the best time. 601 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: So have you been able to play different courses around 602 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: the world? Yeah, now around the world of the country. 603 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, just around the country a little bit, mainly 604 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: in California, a couple of Nebraska. 605 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 606 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: I still I want to expand though. That is one 607 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: thing that I really love to do and would love. 608 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: To continue to do. 609 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: And COVID just it was the only sport you really 610 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 2: could do. So I was like, I think going out 611 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: like four times a week. Yeah, and you could walk, 612 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: it was great workout. Like yeah, yeah, could dutch pin, 613 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: but that doesn't matter. I also love a good spat day, 614 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: Like I'm like self care, just like, give me a 615 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: facial massage pool, Like that's my time. 616 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Yeah. Do you like to read? 617 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: You know, I've tried. It's something I'm like, oh yeah, 618 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: let me just buy this book and. 619 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna read like the first two chapters 620 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: and then yeah even audio sometimes and like I can't 621 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: really get into it. So more podcasts maybe, but I'm 622 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: even that so like I'm addicted to the swiping, scrolling, 623 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: you know, that's my my Like it is an edible 624 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: for me to like kind of check out. 625 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: Because I was actually talking to this one of. 626 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 2: Our nutritionis to o the day because I was like, 627 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: some the mental load that it takes to play at 628 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: a high level is more intense than you think than 629 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: people think, you know, And so sometimes I just get 630 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: home and I just like can't think. 631 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: So this is just not thinking so meditative. 632 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, and it's so it's so bad for you, 633 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: but yeah, it's just my yeah, kryptonite, I guess of ways. 634 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: So well, going back to volleyball, so you are now coaching, yes, 635 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: at your alma mater. What's that like? 636 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: Oh, it's been so fun And I think the best 637 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: part is like seeing these girls, Like I think of 638 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 2: myself at that time and what I was kind of 639 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: going through and seeing them execute and them being just 640 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: absolutely elated is like the best feeling. And just seeing 641 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: them do so well has been so fun. And I 642 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 2: think going back to and like a lot of people 643 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: in the athletic department are still from when I was there, 644 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,479 Speaker 2: which is cool to like now be in a different 645 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: kind of role and see them as I don't know, 646 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: I'm not the young immature. 647 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: You know, they're like, oh my gosh, I have grown up, 648 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: but you know. 649 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: So I think it's it's been really full circle moment 650 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: for me. And obviously just hustrenation is unreal. It's the 651 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 2: greatest thing. And the support that the community has in 652 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 2: the state is just unmatched. So I really feel lucky 653 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: that John is also allowing me to do all these 654 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: other things and kind of get my hands in everything. 655 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: But I'm learning and growing and I love it so much. 656 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: So NIL is obviously a big difference from Oh yeah, 657 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: and you played back in college, But how else have 658 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: you seen the sport evolved at the college, well even 659 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: at the club level, and what's still the same? 660 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: A lot has changed, Like you said, NIL is changing 661 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: the space space, which is cool, it's interesting, but it's 662 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 2: also adding another layer of stress for our athletes and 663 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: helping them manage that as well has been huge. 664 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: But the club scene, I mean unreal, like unreal. 665 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: To see the amount of just athletes playing, like I 666 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: know a couple of director club directors in our area 667 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: that are like forty five and fifty teams like that 668 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: is insane. 669 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's insane, and I'm just like, hi again, I 670 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: wanted to quickly explain how popular the sport is. So, 671 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: girls volleyball is the most popular team high school sport 672 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 1: in the United States. Over three hundred thousand girls aged 673 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: eleven to eighteen play USA volleyball, which is what is 674 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: called club volleyball and played outside of high school. All right, now, 675 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: back to Jordan talking about club ball back when she played. 676 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: Back then, it was like you had like one age 677 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: division and a second team and like that was it. 678 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: Now they're like five or six deep and then like 679 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: another actual like session for more athletes to play. I 680 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: don't know, it's just been it's really really encouraging. And 681 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: I also think the pro scene that's coming on is huge. 682 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: It's just getting more eyeballs on a sport that we 683 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: all love, so it's amazing, amazing to see. 684 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the opportunity that's out there. I mean, 685 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: were you at the Nebraska vulable Day. Yeah? Though, yeah, 686 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: the world record? No oh, where were you? What was 687 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: in Canada? 688 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: We were playing for the national team, but we watched it. Yeah, 689 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: me and Justine and some of the Nebraska girls were 690 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: there as well. But unbelievably special. And I mean, gosh. 691 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: What that did for women's sports. 692 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: Like I had text from all of the world, my friends, 693 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: and They're like, what's happening in Nebraska. 694 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, it's just what we do. Just 695 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: ninety thousand people I stayed in to watch college volleyball exactly. 696 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: But people that were there said it was just absolutely 697 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: moving and to happen where the place I grew up 698 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 2: is even special. 699 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: Could you have ever imagined that when you played? Oh 700 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: my gosh, no, I remember even at that time. 701 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: You know, Final four was like sixteen thousand, and that 702 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: was huge, you know, and so like to even show that, 703 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: but it just shows like anything is possible. 704 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: And again, I think the wave of women's sports right 705 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: now is huge. 706 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: I mean, what Kaila Clark is doing on the women's 707 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: basketball side, and it's really really cool. So I hope 708 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: that people keep watching and just investing in us. It's 709 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: really a privilege. 710 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: Well, now you get to play here in the States, 711 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 1: a founding athlete of love. Ohmah, I you know, how 712 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: does it feel to actually be playing here now? Yeah? 713 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: It's I don't know. We actually had a dinner. 714 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: Our national team kind of got all back together, and 715 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: everybody's saying like, I'm staying home. I'm staying home, Like 716 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: it's so surreal. And I think all of us don't 717 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: have to say goodbye. I think it's hard. You know, 718 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: we all say goodbye for seven months and then we're 719 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: coming back together and now it's like, huh, I'm going. 720 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: To see you next weekend, you know. Like it's so 721 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: it's so. 722 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: Nice, and I know all of us are just so 723 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: excited for our families and friends to be able to 724 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,239 Speaker 2: watch us in person. Then it's also going to take 725 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: an adjustment, right, Like I think about family and friends 726 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: only coming to major events like Olympic Games, and so 727 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: the fact that they get to see me like live 728 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: is huge. So I'm really excited, and especially in the 729 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: Braska community, like. 730 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: Fantastic and now that you're going to be able to 731 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: play here in the States. What are you looking forward 732 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: to doing, you know, other interests that you're helping to 733 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: pursue while you're. 734 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think just more diving deep in the 735 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: community and how can we continue to gain access to 736 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: high level, voiable and high level coaching. I think that 737 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: now we have platforms and our continued to bring more 738 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: platforms of like how to get more efficient with what 739 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: we do and continue to grow the game, and so 740 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: just diving more in the community and how I can help. 741 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: I think that's really where my heart is and it's 742 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: really cool to see that a lot of people just 743 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: love the game and want to continue to grow the game. 744 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 2: So I have a lot more coming on, but uh, 745 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: we're going to kind of keep that at least off Olympics. 746 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: Maybe if you can out some other things going on. 747 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: So I know, I know right now, like I said 748 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: at the beginning, you have had an amazing career. Your 749 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: career is not done yet. But if you could give 750 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: advice to your twelve year old self, what would it be? 751 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, I think the advice I would give to 752 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: my twelve year old self would probably be just I 753 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: think there was times that I allowed stress to kind 754 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: of overcome me that it almost blinded me for other 755 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: areas of where I could remain present. Like I would 756 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: think I was so like you know when they're doing 757 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: the horse free like Nugget dear Ros just like right 758 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: the blinders right like. I feel like at times I 759 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: was a lot like that versus opening myself up to 760 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: other areas of how I can I mean, I was 761 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: always looking to improve, but other ways of even connecting 762 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: with teammates and doing that, I think more enjoyment of 763 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: the process versus not so much outcome based. 764 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: I think early on in my. 765 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: Career I think would have changed even more the depths 766 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: of love I have for the game. 767 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: So I know I brought this up before that you've 768 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: had an amazing career, but your career is not done yet. 769 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: But you've seen the sport evolve from you know, two 770 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: thousand and five to today. But where do you hope 771 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 1: the sport goes in five ten years from now? 772 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think obviously, I hope the love of 773 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: the game and the states continues to grow and we 774 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: can continue to have our girls stay home and continue 775 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: to grow that. And I also think the speed is. 776 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: I think we're playing a lot like the men play, 777 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: and so I hope that we can continue to evolve 778 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: that as well. 779 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: So love it well, Thank you so much for being 780 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: here at Jordan and Jeers Jeers Yeas. Serving Pancakes is 781 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue 782 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, 783 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Production by 784 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: League one Volleyball. I'm your host, Tiffany Oshinsky. Anya Oliverrez 785 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: is our senior producer. Our executive producers are Carrie Stett, 786 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: Tamara Daiki, and Lindsay Hoffman. Our marketing lead is Jawara Parker. 787 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: Sound mixing by Max Lorenzen. Our theme music is Pancakes 788 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: by Eric W. Mast Junior special thanks to Jordan Larsen. 789 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 1: We'll be back the next few weeks to break down 790 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 1: the matches that matter most at the twenty twenty four 791 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: Paris Olympics. Get ready for some unfiltered analysis and authentic 792 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: conversations about the sport itself and what it takes to 793 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: stand on the podium. I'll be joined by prominent figures 794 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: in women's volleyball. And women's sports as we dive deep 795 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: into match plays, mindset, and memories from years past, and 796 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: you can guarantee that pancakes will be on the menu. 797 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for what we serve up next.