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Speaker 1: here's your host, Jen Mueller.

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Speaker 2: Here. Jen Mueller can't be with us today.

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Speaker 3: She is in Kansas City with the Mariners, also known

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Speaker 2: And if you don't get that one, google it.

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty funny video clip you'll find anyway. We

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Speaker 3: are here today with a special edition of Seahawks Insiders

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Speaker 3: and a very special guest joining us. If you are

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Speaker 3: a fan of comedy, if you like to laugh, odds

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Speaker 3: are this guy has made you laugh in the last

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Speaker 3: few decades we've got with us. Jeff Schaefer. He is

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Speaker 3: a director, a writer, a show creator. He worked on

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Speaker 3: which if you haven't seen, you should be watching.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, Welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us, Thank

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Speaker 2: you for having me. I'm so excited I may jump

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Speaker 3: And if you're wondering why Jeff would be slumming it

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Speaker 3: broadcast for the preseason game. So even though you were

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Thank you for that pressure field,

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping that you know I haven't done it before,

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Speaker 2: but I do love the Seahawks and I do love

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Speaker 2: talking about them. I think broadcast wise, I'm just a

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Speaker 3: You know, Pete and John have a long history of

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Speaker 3: This could be your second call in if you're you know,

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Speaker 3: be believed in, the Internet's never wrong, You're from Ohio?

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Speaker 3: I'll prepare you for the booth wall because we know

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Speaker 3: that Rabel's a wild man, so you got to you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully now to let people know how prepared this

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Speaker 3: no knock on Brian Kobak, but how many people listening

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Speaker 2: And his disappointed as was that forty wasn't playing. I

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Speaker 2: knew where Tyler Lockett was gonna go. And the trade

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00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 2: with Washington was not the first attempt, and so he

428
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 2: had these other cards, an attempt with Wash, with Jacksonville,

429
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 2: one with Indy, Like here's just so we got to

430
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 2: see all the maneuvering, which was very cool. But I

431
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 2: think the most impressive thing was how do you know

432
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 2: where a player is that it's gonna be right there

433
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 2: and you have to do it right there? So that

434
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 2: was that was for me. That was fantasy football.

435
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 3: That is truly one of that man's strengths that maybe

436
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 3: gets overlooked off. Pete Carroll likes to talk about this,

437
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 3: but it's not just evaluating the talent, but knowing where

438
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 3: those guys are gonna go and.

439
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 2: Knowing how long you can wait. Like who would have thought,

440
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 2: Let's just like Oluilawatimi. Okay, the Rimington Award winner meaning

441
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 2: the best center, best center in the country, the Outland

442
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 2: Trophy warner best in, best lineman on the best on

443
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 2: the Morris Award winning best line in the country. Knowing

444
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,679
Speaker 2: that you can wait until the fifth holding your water. Yeah.

445
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Speaker 3: Well, the all time example that a lot of people,

446
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 3: apparently in this building, there are people who wanted to

447
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 3: draft Russell Wilson in the second round. They liked him

448
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: that much. John knew, you know what, I think we

449
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 3: can wait. And if you do that, if you take

450
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,239
Speaker 3: him in the second round, you don't have a Hall

451
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 3: of Fame middle linebacker in Bobby Wagner. So right, I mean,

452
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 3: that's not just knowing, Hey, we think that Russell Wilson

453
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 3: is a great player. It's knowing I think we can

454
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Speaker 3: wait one more round to get another great player in

455
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: the second round. So one of his many many talents,

456
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 3: along with sweating, of course, yes.

457
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: That story definitely checks out.

458
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: I was in the draft room once when our president

459
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 3: Chuck Arnold aske if you need another shirt?

460
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 2: So, but it was not just on TV, but I think, like,

461
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: did they win? I think last year at the Combine,

462
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: the Seahawks won an award for the best Draft. So

463
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: they were presented that award this year at the Combine.

464
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: And I just you know, look in the last in

465
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: the last year and a half, the last two years now,

466
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 2: they've replaced every key offensive player except for Metcalf, Lockett

467
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: and Lewis, I mean, and the defense looks completely different.

468
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 2: I mean, these these drafts, these two drafts that they've done,

469
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: plus the free agent acquisitions and the signings are it's remarkable.

470
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: This team is so I could not be more excited

471
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 2: about that. The direction this team is going, it is

472
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: going straight up looking looking forward. It's just amazing. All right.

473
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Speaker 3: So, honest moment for you here, how'd you feel about

474
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 3: it last year around this time, because I know there

475
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: was a lot of fans who were very upset and

476
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: thought it was going to go in the tank. But

477
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Speaker 3: I have a hunch you maybe had a little more

478
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Speaker 3: faith than some folks.

479
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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about this weekend one year ago season

480
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: preseason game two, Chicago at Seattle. Yeah, and Drew was

481
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: supposed to start. He had covid Ginos starting. It's ten

482
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: to nothing in the first quarter. We don't have a

483
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: first down. It's seventeen to nothing with a muffed punt

484
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: with twenty seconds left to end the half. I think

485
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 2: we have two first downs. Yeah, Jason Myers misses an

486
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 2: easy field goal. This is a We were obliterated, yeah,

487
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: by the Chicago Bears, which a lot of people are

488
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: saying was one of the worst teams in football exactly so,

489
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 2: and if you looked at it that way, you know,

490
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: everyone was thinking, oh my gosh, I can't if you're

491
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: believing honest myself, I wish Drew had been playing. And

492
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: then Drew comes in the next game, and whether he was,

493
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: you know, not read because he've been sick with didn't

494
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 2: have a didn't cover himself in glory either. So if

495
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: you looked at these preseason games, you would think this

496
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: is not going to be great. But look what happened.

497
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 2: The Bears turned out to be much more bad news

498
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: than Monsters of the Midway. Gino was the best quarterback

499
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: in the NFC you know only you know, only two

500
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: quarterbacks through in the NFL through two touchdowns in twelve games,

501
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: homes and Gino, you know, number one and passing efficiency

502
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: in a completion percentage rather so it's hard to take away.

503
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: I mean, they were clearly finding out what the team

504
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: was and and this is the time to make mistakes.

505
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: So but to answer your question, was was I more more?

506
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: I didn't think they were going to be that bad.

507
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: I thought there was there were too many good players,

508
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: but I didn't, if I'm truly being honest, I didn't

509
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 2: think that Gino was going to be as good as

510
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: he was, and I couldn't it be unfair? Yeh.

511
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Speaker 3: I don't think we're saying pro bowler, you know, leading

512
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: the NFC and touchdowns leading the league completion. I don't

513
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 3: think any an honest moment predictable.

514
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: But what I did, why I was optimistic is because

515
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: I knew it was the right move. Yeah, it was

516
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: the right move. It was you know, the the contract

517
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: stuff with Russell and like having to you know, franch

518
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 2: and just really ruin your future to pay that big

519
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: a section of the of the cap for a like,

520
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: it was all everything they did was right. Yeah, it

521
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: was right, but I thought we'd take more lumps than

522
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: we did. But he was right the whole time. He said,

523
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: this isn't a rebuild. And you know, if you make

524
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: the playoffs, it's not a rebuild. It's not a rebuild

525
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: at all. And that's it's incredible, Like we are so

526
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: lucky to have this front office and this coaching staff.

527
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: Who you know, the Jets haven't made it in twelve years.

528
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: You know who's the second that's the highest they have

529
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: made it. They have made it the the playoffs in

530
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 2: twelve years, the second team. You know what it is.

531
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Speaker 2: I bet you're gonna tell me Denver. Wow.

532
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, just as you said, you get star starground

533
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 3: football players, but not Hollywood. Those of us in the

534
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 3: sports are kind of the opposite. So I want to

535
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 3: hear some Hollywood stories, you know, without getting it anyone

536
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: in trouble You got into writing? Was that right after college?

537
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 3: I know you were at Harvard right on the Lampoon, which,

538
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: for those who don't know, has produced some very very

539
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: funny people over the years and years and years.

540
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: How'd you get into TV after that? The so every

541
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: year the Lampoon, which is Harvard's comedy magazine does a parody.

542
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a USA Today, sometimes it's people. My year,

543
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: we did a parody of MTV, a TV show a

544
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: few of us, and these people became my writing partners.

545
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: Alec Berg who I wrote with on Seinfeld and Curb

546
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: and Dave Mandel who I also did, and Alex gone

547
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 2: off to do Silicon Valley, and Barry Dave Mandel does

548
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: does Veep and just did White House Plumbers. So we've

549
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: all worked together for a long time. But we got

550
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: we had something that we had made, and so pretty

551
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: soon after that we went out to Hollywood started working

552
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: on lots of shows that didn't ever make it. That's

553
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: most shows, isn't it. Yes, And then, as luck what happened,

554
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: we sent some ideas into Seinfeld. This is in ninety four,

555
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: didn't hear anything. We were gonna go back to Conan

556
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: where we were working back in New York. Got a

557
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 2: call that they read our stuff and liked it, and

558
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 2: so can you come in? It's like yeah, So we

559
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: came in and met with Larry and Jerry in ninety four.

560
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: Jerry's just sort of staring at you. Larry has his

561
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 2: space pen from some of it just he's rolling it

562
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: and just shaking his head looking at you like this,

563
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: and you start pitching your ideas. And so we got

564
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: started there, and so I imagine the feeling is like what

565
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: it must be for some of these younger defensive players

566
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: to all of a sudden find themselves playing with Bobby Wagner. Yeah,

567
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: it's like, oh boy, I watched this. I watched Seinfeld

568
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: in college, and now I'm sitting with Jerry and Larry

569
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: and your brain is saying, get out of here, go run,

570
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: don't screw this up. You shouldn't even be here. But

571
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: if you stick around, if you get over that, which

572
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: is you know. I think about all these guys out

573
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: there with Bobby, It's like they are going to learn

574
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: so much from being around someone who's seen everything. I

575
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: mean just I'm so happy he's just for the fits

576
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: and everything just I mean nothing, He's seen everything. Yeah

577
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: he has. I think he's gonna help.

578
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 3: So, I mean, we talk about all the different things

579
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: that can make this defense better and just his presence,

580
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 3: his knowledge, his getting guys in the right spot.

581
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: It's gonna be huge. So anyway, so for Seinfeld, we

582
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: did my red quarter. Aleck and I did two years

583
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: with Larry David. People don't really know this, but Larry

584
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: left after the last He didn't do the last two seasons. Yeah,

585
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: he came back for the finale. So Alec and I

586
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: were now running the show with Jerry, like twenty seven,

587
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: twenty eight years old. Next pit was terrifying. It's like, please,

588
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: don't you know, destroy this car, don't wrap it around

589
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: a light post. But still we stayed. I've stayed obviously

590
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: very good friends with Larry. Yeah, and we sort of

591
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: help him a little bit here and there, and then

592
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: we came on to Curb season five, and I've been

593
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: working with him ever since. I've it's the longest relationship

594
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: I've ever had in my life. I've worked on and

595
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: off with Larry David for twenty nine years. Wow, a

596
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: long time. Yeah. Now is it true?

597
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: You came up with the Festivus pole idea and now

598
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 3: they're one of those It must be true because it's.

599
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: On the Internet, but I want to verify it. The

600
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: Internet's always always sometimes, right, Yeah, there's so Festivus. The

601
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: Festivus Signfeld episode is really the brainchild of a person

602
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: who lived it. The writer on Seinfeld who we brought

603
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: on named Danny O'Keeffe would talk about his Christmas time.

604
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: He had a father who was very odd, and I

605
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: didn't want to celebrate the commercial the crass commercialism, yeah,

606
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: of Christmas. So he had this thing called Festivus and

607
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: his was even weirder. There was a clock in a bag,

608
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: and there's some other but there was a lot of

609
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: complaining anyway. So he's telling us about this and said, oh, great,

610
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: we're going to do this as a show. And he goes,

611
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: please don't, please don't. I said, no, we're gonna do it.

612
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna change it. We're gonna there's no clock in

613
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 2: a bag. Yes, so the poll yes is my idea. Yes,

614
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: But Danny O'Keeffe lived Festivus. Wow, And now his greatest,

615
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: most embarrassing, like scarring, painful childhood memory gets resurfaced every

616
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: year now for the rest of his life. That's amazing. Yeah. Wow,

617
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: it's the most public yet of his many humiliations. You know,

618
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: we can't have those. What's the life for? Going back

619
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: to the league?

620
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: You mentioned all these shows are pretty improvisational. I just

621
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: imagine there's a lot of chaos involved. As the director,

622
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: are you just sort of trying to rain everything in

623
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: or how does that flow? When everybody's bouncing their own

624
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: ideas around.

625
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: So it's a unique environment. So Curb Enthusiasm in the

626
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: League are both semi scripted, meaning we have an outline yeah,

627
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: and which we've worked hard on. In fact, Seinfeld and

628
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: Kerb are written the exact same way. We come up

629
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: with stories and then we do what I call comedy

630
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: geometry on a dry erase board, trying to make all

631
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: these stories intertwined and come to a funny end. The

632
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: only difference was with Seinfeld, you spend a few days

633
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: writing the script. With Curb, we don't. We write it

634
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: on the set, so every scene's a lot. I write

635
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: same with the League, And as a director, you're writing

636
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: because you're shouting things out, say this, say that, and

637
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: you're it's like a live comedy sporting event, is the

638
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: best way to describe it, because you're telling the cameras

639
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: where to move. At the same time you're telling people

640
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: what to say, wait, don't, don't, don't, don't, hold on,

641
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, hold on, say it now, and

642
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: they're also coming up with stuff that you didn't expect.

643
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: You have a plan, and then you know that half

644
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: of that plans get thrown out the window. Yeah, because

645
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: you know, someone starts to do something else you're like, oh,

646
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: and the ads like, hey, we're supposed to go to

647
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: lunch a, we're gonna really do this, and you're like, oh, yeah,

648
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: we're doing this now. Yeah, And so it's it's a blast.

649
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: It's it's not for everybody because it's you just have

650
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: to walk in every day going we're funny, we're gonna

651
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: leave with something funny. But I love it.

652
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you said, it's a lot like these guys

653
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: out here. You don't you don't know exactly what's gonna happen.

654
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: You prepare, but you don't know how it's gonna go.

655
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: And I will say the football players and the people

656
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: that came on at first, they're very nervous. Yeah, and

657
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: when you're nervous, the first thing I always know from people,

658
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: and they're very nervous. They talk okay, we talk really quiet.

659
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what to say. And so our guys

660
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: were great about just shocking them, shocking the system, like,

661
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: so we'd be standing because there's not really any rehearsal

662
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: line wise, there's some blocking, but no one said it,

663
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: and so it's the scene starts, and our guys would

664
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: go at people like go out and like what wait,

665
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: what do you okay? We're in the locker room. I

666
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: get it, and sort of just shock them into like, no,

667
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 2: this is fun. Just like, you're not gonna look stupid.

668
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: Our guys always look stupid. They know how to look

669
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: make themselves look stupid, and I will make sure they

670
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: look stupid. You're gonna look great. But it's a I'll

671
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: say the one thing Marshawn loved, loved, loved. John lejois

672
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: the guy who played Taco in the league. We're not

673
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: good enough of him. Very funny dude. So you know,

674
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: after after the Arizona super Bowl and the you know,

675
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: the Voldemort of All plays out that shall not be named,

676
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: we got a chance to get Marshaw on two do

677
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: a scene based on that Yes winning scene of season seven.

678
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, I've been seeing the season seven Marshawn and

679
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: Johns on the beach. They've got a few beers, they're

680
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: talking about stuff. Another one where characters Kevin is about

681
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't know a yard and a half away. We

682
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: might need a trigger warning on the rest of this segment.

683
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: I don't know some fans. Might I know, I know,

684
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: I know it's tardy. This and this is how I work. Yeah,

685
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: So about to say how did you get through that?

686
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: And he's like, hey, there's one more Beer's like throw me.

687
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: Can I have the beer. Marshall's like, oh yeah, run

688
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: it over to you. I was like, no, no, no,

689
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: I'll just toss it. I'm right there, I can run

690
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: it over. I could probably run it over. I could

691
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: get there. I'd get there in my sleep. And and

692
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: Taco John was just saying, no, I'm gonna throw what's

693
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: the worst thing that could happen? Yeah, tosses it, Kevin

694
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: tries to catch it, lands in the grill, sets himself

695
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: on fire. Everything blows up that anyway. And Martian's like,

696
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: I told you I should have run it. Yeah, and

697
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: I didn't. We knew we wanted to do the scene.

698
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 2: I had to work through. Everyone had to work through. Through.

699
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: She this is how I was working through that issue. Yes,

700
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: and after through the pain, after the pain that was

701
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: there live. Yeah, we have both super Bowls. Yeah, okay,

702
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: well at least he got one. Yeah. Yeah, it's magnificent.

703
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: Jack was saying, are you crying after the winner of

704
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: the loss after the win. Yeah, he's when he goes, yeah,

705
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm so happy. But Marshaan, we knew we wanted to

706
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: do this scene, and we kept talking to Hendrickson. It's like,

707
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: is he gonna do this? Is he willing to do this?

708
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: And Doug's like, yeah, yeah, it's funy, it's funny. He

709
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: thinks that he likes it. He likes it, he likes it.

710
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: And then Marshan comes to the set that day and

711
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't think he'd ever seen it part clear. So

712
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: he looks at it and he goes, oh, man, you're

713
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: all gonna get me fired. I We're like, you just

714
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: signed a twelve million dollars guarantee. I don't think anyone's

715
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: firing you. And he goes, all right, I'm doing this,

716
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna tell you something. We get in the

717
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: same situation and they don't hit me the ball again,

718
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: it's your fault. It's a lot of pressure on. Yeah,

719
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: but he's a Marshan is a is a wonderful it's

720
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: so fun. He's so great. And you know the first

721
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: time he was on the show was when he wasn't

722
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: saying anything to the media. Talking to the media, he

723
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: was this this cipher and like, you're so talking, You're

724
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: so funny, you're so jogal, but you never talked to

725
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: the media. And you just said I don't have anything

726
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: to say to him. That was it. Yeah, he was

727
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: his own man. Yep, he is. But I love how

728
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: the players loved having him around. Oh and I feel

729
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: I'll do if he should still do. And I feel

730
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: like Bobby, how happy is Quandary digs that Bobby is

731
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: back out?

732
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: I mean, man spent his entire offseason just Lobby and

733
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 3: Peter Carroll publicly on Twitter and going to his office.

734
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're they're thrilled. Yeah, what this is? You know,

735
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: I know, what's the third youngest team in the NFL

736
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: right now, which is incredible, but it tired me the

737
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: youngest not for Nick bel or sorry Nick. I loved

738
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: his his like my chemical romance haircut in his in

739
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: his team photo. That man's funny. You should hire him. He is.

740
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: He is a really coming He's a really funny dude.

741
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: I'd have him anytime.

742
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: Since you mentioned both super Bowls and you were at

743
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 3: Super Bowl forty eight in New York, what was your

744
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: memory as a fan who had been through the dark

745
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: times you've been a Kingdome season ticket holder when the

746
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: team's going to and what you know, went in a

747
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: few games. What was that like for you as a

748
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: fan to experience that at Super Bowl?

749
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: Well? I think that contact is important because the Seahawks

750
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 2: had always been the other team in someone else's story, right,

751
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: Bo Jackson running over bos You know, it was just

752
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: like it was just they were the other team. And

753
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: look the nineties, you know, it was a bunch of

754
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: seven to nine, eight and eight, seven to nine, eight

755
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: and eight, you know, and then it got better and

756
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: then it got worse first season and then so now

757
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: it's just no one was expecting that when Pete and

758
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: John were hired, you would hope that this would happen.

759
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I don't know if anyone there'd

760
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 2: been a lot of history that says it wasn't gonna happen.

761
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: But the end of twenty twelve, that Atlanta loss, which

762
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: was so close to being a win, was so close

763
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: was I know, I remember Russell said he felt great,

764
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: and it just you're like, this team is on the way,

765
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: and then thirteen almost felt inevitable. But of course then

766
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: you're playing Peyton Manning and the most vaunted offense. I

767
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: remember talking to people because everyone, you know, everyone offense

768
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: always steals the show, and that, oh well, how House

769
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: Seattle ever going to do this? Peyton Manning is the

770
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: best offense in the world all time. Yeah, well Peyton

771
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 2: can't really throw it to the outside, and they're gonna

772
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: get killed when he throws it to the inside. So

773
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm actually pretty I was confident. I was very confident.

774
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: But it went way better than I never I mean,

775
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: you know that safety and then and even the Percy

776
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: Harvard I mean yeah, even when before that, at the

777
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: end of the first half, I remember standing with Jackie going, Okay,

778
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 2: I think we got this. But again, that offense, Peyton Manning,

779
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: Peyton man Yeah, he kept waiting for and then Percy

780
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: took it back and then it was just like, oh,

781
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: this is this is so FA was when the celebration

782
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: really started. Yeah, so many so, I mean I just

783
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: remember lots of like lots of people like wanting to

784
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: leave and being bored, and there's like Jackie and I

785
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: and like Kenny Maine was like a few rods up

786
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: just like standing and cheering and just it was it

787
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: was so it was so incredible and look that defense.

788
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: Was it first in DVA thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, something like?

789
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: It was just an incredible run. Yeah, they're up there

790
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: for three years there.

791
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: They led the league in scoring defense for four straight years,

792
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: only team in the Super Bowl era to do that.

793
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: So just remarkable. What I will say. I remember being

794
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: on rich Isiland's podcast twenty twelve before the season started,

795
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: and you know, I think this was even before it

796
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: may have been right after Russell's No, I think it

797
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: was before Russell's game, that second game or whatever, and

798
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: I was like, they're building a big sandwich here. It's

799
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: I mean, you can see the pieces they're building, the bread,

800
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: all the stuff. Quesch is, what kind of sandwich is it?

801
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: Is it a Matt Flinn sandwich or is it a

802
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson sandwich? Or was it somebody else? And I

803
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: remember saying, I think I think it's gonna be a

804
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson sanwich. I think it's gonna be really good.

805
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: And I will tell you I am I'm feeling a

806
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 2: sandwich getting built again. Like is this twelve? Is this thirteen?

807
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what this year is. Yeah, but it's

808
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: gonna be tasty. It's gonna be really good. That it's

809
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: the team's too young and there's too much talent and

810
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: there's too much there's so much built in redundancy and versatile,

811
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: there's versatility, Like look at the defense, there's so much versatility,

812
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: and that versatility means like redundancy, which is great because

813
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: we all know all the players who don't last through

814
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: the season, and that secondary you're covered. There's so many

815
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: moving parts that can play so many different roles that

816
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: I feel like we're covered. I feel like running backs,

817
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 2: you know, I was like, running backs are like running

818
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 2: backs are like underwear. Like you walk out the door

819
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: and you have one pair of underwear. You're like, I

820
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: only need one pair of underwear until you don't, and

821
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 2: then you're like, I'm so glad I had a second

822
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: pair of underwear. And I think, you know, Zach scharbonaey

823
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: not to reduce him to a second pair of underwear

824
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: because he's amazing, but like it's great, and you know

825
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: Kenny's coming, you know, Kenny we back and he'll you know,

826
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: fill the the Travis Homer's size hole in our hearts

827
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: and it'll be great. But like, I just think there

828
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: the offensive line with Bradford is. You know, he may

829
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: not play right now, but he's available to play. And

830
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: the next year. You know, it's everywhere there, everywhere, everywhere

831
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: you go.

832
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 3: There's there's really talented backups, and there's a vibe about

833
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: this team just kind of a juice that it started

834
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: last year and for whatever reason, whether it's just the

835
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 3: newness the roster turnover, I think it energized Pete John

836
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: the players and you felt it last year and you're

837
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: feeling it around this building again. That just if you're

838
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: around here every day, there's just you can tell there's

839
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 3: something special bruin with this group.

840
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: And everyone should have someone in their lives that loves

841
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: them as much as Pete loves coaching young players. It's amazing.

842
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: You know, I've heard from players who come from other places.

843
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: I think Treekwollen made this point. You know he went

844
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: to an offensive or not Tree Wollan, Who was it,

845
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: I can't remember now, Oh, you know back in the day,

846
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: it was Trey Flowers went to an offensive school Oklahoma State,

847
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Speaker 3: where if you're a defensive back, you're kind of off

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Speaker 3: in the defensive world. Head coach barely knows who you are.

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Speaker 3: He comes here and he's got Pete Carroll a legend

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Speaker 3: at that point, one on one individually with him practicing.

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Speaker 2: We see that there.

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Speaker 3: First day Tree Wolan's back, the other day he's walking

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Speaker 3: off field, Pete Carroll, the whole you know, one hundred

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Speaker 3: plus yards walking off the field together, just chatting, hand

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Speaker 3: play technique and just he loves you know, he's been

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Speaker 3: doing this job for almost fifty years at some level

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Speaker 3: and he's still you can tell, gets so much joy

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Speaker 3: out of it.

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Speaker 2: And I think the other thing that's amazing, and it's

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Speaker 2: a testament to this this this competitive family, this culture

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Speaker 2: is the players that come back. Yeah. I mean Bennett

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Speaker 2: and April out there coaching. You know, Shurm's coming back.

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Speaker 2: It's just people want to come back. I remember we

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Speaker 2: had we had Golden Tate on on the league and

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Speaker 2: this is he had already been. He was back. He

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Speaker 2: was in Detroit. Yeah at this point, and he just

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Speaker 2: said seeing seeing the other side, he realized he goes

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Speaker 2: boys seat. It was just a it was a first

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Speaker 2: class organization all the way around. Yeah, And I think

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Speaker 2: you get that from a lot of players who go

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Speaker 2: somewhere else and then they realized what they had here.

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Speaker 2: Was super special.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even guys who didn't leave on the best of terms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they come back and yeah, yeah, it's great to see.

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Speaker 2: I think. On that note, we're gonna let you go.

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Speaker 3: I'll remind everyone, you know, if you haven't ever binged

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Speaker 3: the league, go jump on Hulu or wherever and watch it,

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Speaker 3: watch Dave, and most of all, listen to the broadcast

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00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: and here Jeff drop a whole lot of seahawks and

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Speaker 3: knowledge this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Don't hate me, It'll be great. M m h m hmmm. Alright,

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Speaker 2: m r m h m hm