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Speaker 1: This is the Colts Free Agent Tracker, a look at

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Speaker 1: some key in house free agents this offseason. Hey, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Colts Free Agent Tracker podcast, one of several

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Speaker 1: looks here at key free agents this offseason for the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. The off season is officially here for every

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Speaker 1: team in the NFL now that the Super Bowl has concluded.

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Speaker 1: NFL free agency will start in mid March, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna look at a few key players each week leading

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Speaker 1: into the NFL new league year in mid March. I'm

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, joined by JJ Stangovitz from Colts dot Com

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Speaker 1: and from Colts Radio and Colts Audio and all around

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Speaker 1: do it All or Casey Valier is with us as well. Jj.

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Speaker 1: How's it going, sir? It is going great, Matt, And

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Speaker 1: the NFL offseason is It's just it's hilarious. Like we

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Speaker 1: talked about this on the Colts Official podcast last week,

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Speaker 1: like the super Bowl ended, and then it's like two weeks,

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Speaker 1: two weeks from now, the combine starts like right, right, oh,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing off season? Well, what off season?

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Speaker 1: There is no off season. We're talking about free agency

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Speaker 1: now absolutely and getting ready for the draft. KC. This

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Speaker 1: is between now and the end of April. This is,

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Speaker 1: as we know, the key period of the calendar year

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, where you know, offseason acquisition happens, key

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Speaker 1: free agents, and obviously it all leads up to the

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Speaker 1: draft at the end of April. Yeah, you don't. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to say that this is the most important

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Speaker 1: most important times of the year. Right now is you're

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Speaker 1: So it all starts literally right now. I love that

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Speaker 1: JJ saiding. I mean literally, you think two weeks after

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, here it starts. There is no off

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Speaker 1: season in the NFL. I don't work in baseball, I

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Speaker 1: And there's plenty to talk about. That's what we're doing

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Speaker 1: here today. We're going to talk about left tackle Eric Fisher.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be our first free agent tracker topic

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Speaker 1: of conversation, if you will, because left tackle is a

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Speaker 1: is a free agent after signing only a one year

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Speaker 1: he spent eight years in Kansas City, played at a

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Speaker 1: So let's start there, JJ, how much how much better

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Speaker 1: his play last season? Again, coming off a compromise offseason,

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Speaker 1: He didn't have OTAs, he didn't have training camp. He

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Speaker 1: So again, you know, the Colts know exactly where Eric

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Speaker 1: And you know, the premium position that he plays at

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Speaker 1: So Casey, I'll start with you first. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the season, Chris Ballard said that Eric Fisher has

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Speaker 1: some really good football left in him. I tend to

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