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Speaker 1: Well, what's up? Its way up at Angela Yee. I'm

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Speaker 1: Angela Yee. And Jasmine from the Jasmine brand dot Com

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Speaker 1: is here and we have a true legend in the building. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. Billy Porter is here.

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Speaker 2: Hi, how are you both?

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Speaker 1: You know what we gotta do?

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Speaker 2: What do we have to do?

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Speaker 1: We gotta let these children know what time is.

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Speaker 2: Yes, time, Yes, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, we are so excited. First of all, we got

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Speaker 1: when I tell you, we have been in here jamming

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. I'm so excited about it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been in this business for a really

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Speaker 2: came out in nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: It was a way different look too.

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Speaker 2: It was a way different video right, and the business

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Speaker 1: Thing, and there's listen a lot of wins, you know,

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Speaker 1: but then there's some things that you're like, what century

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Speaker 2: Trying to be And if there's one thing that I

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Speaker 2: why the pushback is so severe. We ain't talking about

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Speaker 2: And so the news cycles create a space where it's

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Speaker 2: so nobody's talking about the positive stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's so much positive going on.

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Speaker 1: And something I also have to realize, because the two

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Speaker 1: We want it to happen.

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Speaker 2: It is now. Calm down. Change is slow.

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Speaker 2: I am a complete human being, I am a complete artist.

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Speaker 1: It's like poetry. It was. I wanted to give that

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Speaker 2: I have to come back on tour, but I did

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Speaker 1: And I want to be a part of that, right

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Speaker 1: Because when this album comes out, you got to do

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Speaker 1: comes out November seventeen, Yes, it does. And so I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Just so y'all get into that title. Toling.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you already know it's going to be some drama.

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Speaker 1: But we love it and we love you too, Billy Porter,

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Speaker 3: Yes, we did.

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Speaker 1: It's a joint.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Right, Billy Porter, Well,