WEBVTT - The Burden: Avenger

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<v Speaker 1>Ohla, dear listener, Gomostas. Today we're going to go back

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<v Speaker 1>in time, actually to one of the darkest moments in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of Argentina, the military dictatorship that ruled the

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<v Speaker 1>country during the nineteen seventies and early eighties. Miriam Lewin

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<v Speaker 1>was kidnapped by soldiers when she was just nineteen years old.

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<v Speaker 1>She spent time in a concentration camp. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other people never made it back home. About thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>were disappeared in Argentina during this period, which is known

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<v Speaker 1>as the Dirty War. Miriam became an investigative journalist, and

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<v Speaker 1>decades later she looked into one of the most infamous

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<v Speaker 1>practices of the dictatorship, Los Buelos de la Moorte, the

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<v Speaker 1>death Flights. In this podcast, we're going to follow Miriam

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<v Speaker 1>as she finds one of the planes that was used

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<v Speaker 1>by the military to throw people into the ocean, which

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<v Speaker 1>unexp actively was in Florida, and she fights to bring

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<v Speaker 1>some of the pilots to justice. Here's the first episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Avenger, produced by Orbit Media in association with Sonoro.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we begin, please note that for this story, we

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed medium and everyone else for dozens of hours in Spanish.

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<v Speaker 2>We hired actors to voice their words in English.

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<v Speaker 3>By then it was much more than a feeling. I

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<v Speaker 3>knew that I was being followed. I avoided going to

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<v Speaker 3>my family's house because I knew they would be there

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<v Speaker 3>waiting for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's late afternoon, nineteen seventy seven. Medium is in a

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood in Buenos Aires. She's nineteen. It's been a year

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<v Speaker 2>since Argentina's military power a coup to bring back peace

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<v Speaker 2>and stability, says the military dictator. People like Medium, a

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<v Speaker 2>young political dissident, are now targets.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually worried about my grandmother. It had been

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<v Speaker 3>a while since i'd last seen her. She was ninety two,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was frail. I just wanted to call, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>check in. I get to the phone booth and I

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<v Speaker 3>notice a man in line, his young, slim and he's

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<v Speaker 3>wearing a jean jacket. And I see that when his

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<v Speaker 3>turn comes up, he doesn't end up making a call.

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<v Speaker 3>So now I'm on alert. I start heading toward the

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<v Speaker 3>nearest bus stop, where at least there were more people around.

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<v Speaker 3>First he follows me to the bus stop. Then I

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<v Speaker 3>see him inside the bus. I immediately jump off at

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<v Speaker 3>a random stop, but he also met just to get out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I turn my head and I see a dark

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<v Speaker 3>red Ford Falcon and a long gun barrel hanging out

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<v Speaker 3>from one of the windows. Now I'm running out of ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>I run into a nearby store, and when I look back,

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<v Speaker 3>I see that three men were following. I try to

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<v Speaker 3>stay calm and make my way through the meat aisle,

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<v Speaker 3>pretending I'm shopping. There's no back exit, so I take

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<v Speaker 3>off again through the front door. I tried to catch

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<v Speaker 3>a bus that was slowing down, and the Ford Falcon

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<v Speaker 3>speeds up right toward me. The bus driver other people

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<v Speaker 3>try to help, but the men pull out their guns

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<v Speaker 3>and scare everybody away. The bus also takes off. They

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<v Speaker 3>tackle me and they tell me they're police. So I

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<v Speaker 3>start screaming, I'm Miriam Lewie, please help me.

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<v Speaker 2>From Orbit Media, I'm andres Caaba Schedo. This is Avenger.

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<v Speaker 2>The story of Medium Lewin, Episode one. The process. Fast

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<v Speaker 2>forward three decades to twenty ten. It's four in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>the busiest time of day at Canal Trece, a national

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<v Speaker 2>TV channel in Buenos Aires. Medium sits in her office

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<v Speaker 2>chair looking through a big glass window that the car

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<v Speaker 2>is driving by. In Argentina. Medium is a well known

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<v Speaker 2>investigative journalist and she's relentless going after a purple traders

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<v Speaker 2>of sexual abuse. She's reported from Gaza, Russia, lots of places.

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<v Speaker 2>Now she's in the middle of the biggest investigation of

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<v Speaker 2>her career. Medium looks at her phone. It's a US.

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<v Speaker 3>Number, Ola Medium, Ola Bruno Olae.

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<v Speaker 2>An Argentine reporter calling from Florida. Medium had recently hired

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<v Speaker 2>him to help her follow up on a tip. She

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<v Speaker 2>had sent him to meet the owner of a small

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<v Speaker 2>plane that maybe had once been used by Argentina's dictatorship

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<v Speaker 2>to kill hundreds of people. They were tossed out of

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<v Speaker 2>planes alive into the sea. Somehow the plane ended up

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<v Speaker 2>in Fort Lauderdale. Medium hoped that it still held clues

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<v Speaker 2>evidence of the atrocities.

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<v Speaker 3>We had no money to make the trip ourselves, so

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<v Speaker 3>we hired a stringer, a freelance journalist and actually Bruno

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<v Speaker 3>was a sports commentator, no pud career.

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<v Speaker 2>See Ino on the phone. The reporter confirms it's the

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<v Speaker 2>right plane.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we never even dreamed of running into something

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<v Speaker 3>so valuable. And then the owner of the plane shows him.

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<v Speaker 3>The flight logs that were left inside untouched. The hose

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<v Speaker 3>logs date back to the late seventies and early eighties,

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<v Speaker 3>when the military junta was in power. It was all

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<v Speaker 3>there dates, roots, origin, destination, and the most important part,

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<v Speaker 3>the names of the pilots.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent a lot of my childhood in Argentina in

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<v Speaker 2>the early nineties at my grandfather's repair shop behind our house.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a middle class suburb of Buennos Aires, and

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<v Speaker 2>every morning I would wake up to Radio Colonna, my

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<v Speaker 2>grandfather's favorite station. Inside his repair shop, the floors and

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<v Speaker 2>shelves were stacked with old radios, tools, and countless broken televisions.

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<v Speaker 2>One day, he decided I was old enough to hear

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<v Speaker 2>about the death flights. He told me how only about

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<v Speaker 2>a decade earlier, thousands of people had been kidnapped, loaded

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<v Speaker 2>into airplanes and thrown into the ocean. I was barely

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<v Speaker 2>nine at the time. We lived several blocks from the shore.

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<v Speaker 2>I could picture the planes above the water, bodies free falling.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of questions, but my grandfather didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have answers. This was in the nineties and many Argentines

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<v Speaker 2>were still searching for answers about loved ones who had

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<v Speaker 2>gone missing, mothers, fathers were still mourning, in fear and

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<v Speaker 2>in silence. It seemed at times that Argentina, the entire country,

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<v Speaker 2>was looking away, intent on bearing the ghosts of the past.

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<v Speaker 2>For a long time, journalist, Medium Lewin wanted to bury

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<v Speaker 2>them too. For good reason. She had been one of

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<v Speaker 2>the disappeared. Better to forget years of captivity of torture.

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<v Speaker 2>Then one day, an annoying, rude, incredibly persistent Italian photo

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<v Speaker 2>journalist entered her life, asking lots of uncomfortable questions. Theirs

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<v Speaker 2>would be an unlikely alliance, but together they set out

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<v Speaker 2>to bring justice to the victims of the Bueilos de

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<v Speaker 2>la Morte, the death flights. It would prove to be

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<v Speaker 2>the investigation of a lifetime. The investigation would also become

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<v Speaker 2>crucial in my strich for answers, How did an entire

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<v Speaker 2>country allow this to happen? Was there will there ever

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<v Speaker 2>be justice? Where were the pilots who flew the death flights?

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<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and seven. Giancarlo Siraulo is living in

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<v Speaker 2>Buenos Aires. He's the annoying Italian photojournalist who gets in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with Medium. He invites her to a cafe to

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<v Speaker 2>take some photos.

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<v Speaker 3>He says he's been assigned to take some portraits of me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know something about a story about survivors of

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<v Speaker 3>the dictatorship.

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<v Speaker 4>I had no idea whether she tell me to just

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<v Speaker 4>go to hell. The photos were just an excuse for

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<v Speaker 4>us to me. I mean, why would I take portraits

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<v Speaker 4>of a survivor inside a cafe. I knew I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>going to use those photos.

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<v Speaker 2>In his thirties, Giancadlo is a bit of a nomad.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been all over the world telling stories, taking photos,

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<v Speaker 2>fulfilling his obsession to document the scars left by fascist governments. Recently,

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<v Speaker 2>he traveled from Italy to Argentina on a mission. He's

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<v Speaker 2>become obsessed with the death flights. He's heard about Medium

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<v Speaker 2>and decided he needs her, a survivor, and just as important,

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<v Speaker 2>a journalist on the ground who might help him find

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<v Speaker 2>some answers and jian. Cadlo's request comes at a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in a bad place emotionally at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in my fifties. My two boys were in

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<v Speaker 3>their mid twenties, so they were never home. The man

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<v Speaker 3>I was with back then left me for a younger woman.

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<v Speaker 3>I was alone, heartbroken. I needed some sort of distraction,

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<v Speaker 3>something to occupy my time, even if it involved meeting

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<v Speaker 3>a stranger to talk about trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>She agrees to meet gian Cadlo at a cafe in

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<v Speaker 2>the center of what Asidis. It's a gray, windy day

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<v Speaker 2>in August, and Medium comes straight from her office wearing

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<v Speaker 2>her signature fluorescent orange jack, her red curly hair blowing

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<v Speaker 2>in the wind. The cafe is on Avenida and Withe Julia,

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<v Speaker 2>a majestic avenue lined up with purple Jagaranda trees. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not the first time that a foreign journalist contacts Medium

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<v Speaker 2>for an interview, but Giancarlo is different.

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<v Speaker 3>He says high with a kiss on the cheek. He's

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<v Speaker 3>clearly non American. He has this baby face that makes

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<v Speaker 3>him look in his mid twenties, and long wavy hair,

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<v Speaker 3>green eyes and an earring.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm shocked by her face. She's beautiful in her

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<v Speaker 4>eyes have this light to them, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the survivors of interview didn't have the light in their eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>They start talking. Gian Cadlo seems eager, too eager. He's

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<v Speaker 2>leaning toward Medium over the table. Medium is not impressed.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole setup seems off.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, who does this serious, prestigious Italian magazine send

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<v Speaker 3>this guy to do a story about the dictatorship. He

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<v Speaker 3>just doesn't seem very professional. And then he grabs his

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<v Speaker 3>camera and starts taking pictures of me without even looking

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<v Speaker 3>into the camera. I thought that was kind of weird,

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<v Speaker 3>so I asked if he got the shots that he needed.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead of answering, his smiles and asks me a question.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know where the planes use for the dead

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<v Speaker 4>flights are?

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<v Speaker 3>He was kind of telling me, how come you never

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<v Speaker 3>thought of this? I was an experienced investigative reporter, so

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<v Speaker 3>that felt like a lack of respect. You know, how

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<v Speaker 3>dare he ask me that I'm a survivor of a

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<v Speaker 3>concentration camp. Also, I'm like twelve years older than him.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea where the planes could be and

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<v Speaker 3>why why should I care? But then again, through those planes,

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<v Speaker 3>we could get to the pilots and maybe identify them,

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<v Speaker 3>and that would be amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Gian Cardlo's convinced that if they could find the planes,

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<v Speaker 2>that could lead to the pilots of those death flights.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, these are the guys who were responsible for

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<v Speaker 4>the genocidal machine that killed so many people. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to see how she would react, hoping it would make

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<v Speaker 4>her want to help me with the investigation. That's their

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<v Speaker 4>strategy at least.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Giancarlo pulls this strange looking book from his backpack.

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<v Speaker 3>He puts it on the table. It's written by a

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<v Speaker 3>guy named Adolfo Silingo, a former Navy captain. He was

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<v Speaker 3>the first Navy officer to admit to being part of

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<v Speaker 3>a death flight crew. I knew about Silingo, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I had heard about him, but I hadn't seen this

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<v Speaker 3>book yet.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an obscure book. Only a few copies were

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<v Speaker 2>ever printed. Giancarlo gives it to her and she puts

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<v Speaker 2>it in her bag. Their meeting ends without a commitment,

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<v Speaker 2>but it sparks something within her.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there possibly something big to investigate, something that had

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<v Speaker 3>been overlooked for a while. I avoided investigating the dictatorship,

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<v Speaker 3>revisiting that trauma. I had friends who were put on

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<v Speaker 3>those death flights. I didn't feel I could stick to

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<v Speaker 3>journalistic boundaries, like my emotions might betray me at any

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<v Speaker 3>moment and send me into a breakdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Medium grew up in a nice middle class neighborhood in

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<v Speaker 2>Buenos Aires. She was an intellectual child. She loved books

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<v Speaker 2>and poetry. Her dad was a big influence. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a leftist. He gave her books about socialism workers' movements.

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<v Speaker 3>When my dad noticed me bringing flyers home bringing the

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<v Speaker 3>anarchist paper, he started feeding me more anarchist literature.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon she was an activist.

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<v Speaker 3>I was into political militancy, but I also loved the

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<v Speaker 3>idea of working for a newspaper. I was a good writer,

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<v Speaker 3>so I signed up for journalism school. The problem was

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<v Speaker 3>my parents wanted me to have a real career, so

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<v Speaker 3>I had to enroll in economics at the same time

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<v Speaker 3>to appease them. We were young, but we felt like

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<v Speaker 3>we'd live through a lot. Social change, access to education,

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<v Speaker 3>better salaries. It all seemed at our fingertips. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't feel like a fantasy. It felt like we

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<v Speaker 3>could actually change the world. I wanted to see a

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<v Speaker 3>country where there was equality. We were young and we

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<v Speaker 3>felt invincible.

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<v Speaker 2>When Medium's parents started to worry about her safety, they

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<v Speaker 2>offered to fly her to Brazil or somewhere outside Argentina.

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<v Speaker 3>Abandoning the cause wasn't even an option for us. We

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<v Speaker 3>thought if we abandoned the militancy and activism, we would

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<v Speaker 3>be betraying our friends who gave their lives for the movement.

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<v Speaker 2>The economy was in shambles.

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<v Speaker 5>For sixty days, six thousand metal workers struck unofficially against

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<v Speaker 5>wage restraint. In face of huge inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>And political violence. Intentions grew the government.

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<v Speaker 5>Federal police moved in. Five hundred workers were sacked and

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and forty three flung in jail without trial.

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<v Speaker 5>One man handing out leaflets was machine gun from a

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<v Speaker 5>police car. Another shot dead while painting a slogan on

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<v Speaker 5>a wall.

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<v Speaker 2>It was ruthless Lasa las continua parsonal leftist group's retaliate

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<v Speaker 2>target and government officials police chiefs.

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<v Speaker 5>Six point thirty one morning in this down at hill,

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<v Speaker 5>Buenos Aires suburb, two cars pulled up, Five men got out.

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<v Speaker 5>One knocked on the door. The policeman who answered received

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<v Speaker 5>one bullet in the brain. The remaining men then drilled

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<v Speaker 5>the front of the house with at least eighty bullets.

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<v Speaker 5>Before leaving, they blasted holes in the roof with three grenades,

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<v Speaker 5>injuring the man's widow and two children.

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<v Speaker 2>Violence divided the country. The best known group targeting police

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<v Speaker 2>and government forces was called the Montenados. Some supported them,

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<v Speaker 2>including Medium, as the best hope against forces of repression,

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<v Speaker 2>but others saw only chaos and violence. They craved stability. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>Medium was in the midst of a political awakening. She

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<v Speaker 2>got a job at a factory and helped organize union workers.

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<v Speaker 2>Her parents started to worry about her, but Medium was

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<v Speaker 2>on a different path. Now. The entire nation was on edge.

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<v Speaker 2>Inflation with skyrocketing, the violence was getting worse. The government

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<v Speaker 2>seemed powerless.

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<v Speaker 3>During the last months of nineteen seventy five, everyone already

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<v Speaker 3>knew that a military coup was about to happen. It

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<v Speaker 3>was March twenty fourth, nineteen seventy six. My mom barges

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<v Speaker 3>into my room with a portable radio broadcasting about soldiers marching,

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<v Speaker 3>and then she tells me that there was a coup.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember being in bed and just getting into a

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<v Speaker 3>fetal position and crying. I was crying because I felt

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<v Speaker 3>afraid of the changes that were coming, more control less freedoms.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember what it felt like to step out

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<v Speaker 3>of my house for the first time just after the coup,

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<v Speaker 3>watching the tanks rolling down the streets in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the city. We had seen this before, the military

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<v Speaker 3>that targets activists, sending them to jail, trying them in court.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually thought, we hoped, the military would help stop

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<v Speaker 3>the violence. I never imagined the underground extra judicial process.

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<v Speaker 3>Never imagined they would kidnap me, put a hood on me,

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<v Speaker 3>torture me.

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<v Speaker 2>Argentina's armed forces took control a coup led by General

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<v Speaker 2>jrgue Rafelbidela. Up until then he had played a neutral

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<v Speaker 2>role when it came to politics, but he was the

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<v Speaker 2>country's most powerful military leader. He promised peace a stable economy. Officially,

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<v Speaker 2>his plan was called the national reorganization process or just

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<v Speaker 2>the process. If the professor reorganization national.

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<v Speaker 3>He would say things like the process would require time

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<v Speaker 3>and effort. They had their own vision for the country,

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<v Speaker 3>a right wing neoliberal nation with conservative Christian.

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<v Speaker 2>Values, values that General Videla says were threatened by subversives, students,

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<v Speaker 2>union members, teachers, activists, people like medium, who he vowed

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<v Speaker 2>to quote annihilate.

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<v Speaker 3>That rhetoric about preserving Western Christian values, about creating paranoia

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<v Speaker 3>that communism was taking over our country. To me, none

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<v Speaker 3>of that was surprising. I remember a friend telling me

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<v Speaker 3>he was leaving the country because he'd heard that the

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<v Speaker 3>military was planning a blood bath, that they were going

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<v Speaker 3>to kill us all we thought it was an exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't see Argentina as a banana republic, and we

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<v Speaker 3>had never witnessed the type of blood bath my friend

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<v Speaker 3>was predicting. We thought he was a coward.

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<v Speaker 2>General Videla is swearing in takes place inside the presidential palace.

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<v Speaker 2>The room is filled with men in green and blue

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<v Speaker 2>military uniforms, Catholic bishops and families of Junta leaders watching

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<v Speaker 2>from a balcony in grays and John al Salon Blanco.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone is standing. Suddenly, two giant doors open and General

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<v Speaker 2>Videla appears. His tall, slim with a thick mustache. He

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<v Speaker 2>has a stern look, and he takes the oath Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>Rumors about horrific torture started going around.

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<v Speaker 2>The rumors are true. The Junta takes its crack down

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<v Speaker 2>and left his groups to a new level.

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<v Speaker 3>People having their arms ripped off, their bodies, electric shocks rape.

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<v Speaker 3>The orders from our group leaders were clear, do not

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<v Speaker 3>be captured alive.

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<v Speaker 2>For medium. It means leaving her parents' house. She knows

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<v Speaker 2>she's a person of interest. She fears she will bring

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<v Speaker 2>danger to her family, so she goes into hiding.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing is that immediately after the coup, the military

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<v Speaker 3>started arresting friends. People are knew, right, so we knew

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<v Speaker 3>that the military were going to torture those friends, and

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<v Speaker 3>they had information about where I lived. And the reality

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<v Speaker 3>is not everyone can endure torture, So if they gave

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<v Speaker 3>your information, the military would be at my door. The

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<v Speaker 3>fear and terror was not only aimed at armed groups

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<v Speaker 3>or known activists. It was aimed at society. They were

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<v Speaker 3>going after school teachers, professors, union members, and then they

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<v Speaker 3>were targeting their families too. It was too dangerous for

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<v Speaker 3>me to keep sleeping at home. At one point, my

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<v Speaker 3>dad didn't speak to me for at least six months.

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<v Speaker 3>He was against my activism. He knew how committed I was,

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<v Speaker 3>and he knew how dangerous it was. He was scared

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<v Speaker 3>because people he knew were disappearing left and right, and

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't want me to get killed.

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<v Speaker 2>By then, MEDIUM had fallen in love with a fellow

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<v Speaker 2>journalism student, juan Is Davis. They met in college. He

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<v Speaker 2>was an activist like her.

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<v Speaker 3>He was sweet, adorable. Never again did I feel the

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<v Speaker 3>way I felt for Juan. His voice was so special.

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<v Speaker 3>Just hearing him talk made me emotional. He loved his

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<v Speaker 3>family and he loved me.

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<v Speaker 2>After the coup, they drop out of journalism school and

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<v Speaker 2>go underground.

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<v Speaker 3>Juana and I got a place at first, but I

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<v Speaker 3>would only sleep there a few days a week. I

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<v Speaker 3>would lie to my parents. I'd tell them I was

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<v Speaker 3>going to sleep at friends houses. But then more of

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<v Speaker 3>our friends started to get kidnapped, so we had to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>We were never in the life of a typical couple.

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<v Speaker 3>We were on the move almost every week, living one

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<v Speaker 3>day at a time. We never even thought about the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Before they go underground together, they buy two cheap wedding

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<v Speaker 2>bands and ask the leader of their activist group to marry.

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<v Speaker 3>Them, and at that very informal ceremony, the guy called

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<v Speaker 3>us a revolutionary couple. He said that our commitment to

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<v Speaker 3>each other, our vow was to fight to change Argentina,

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<v Speaker 3>to make it a more just place. And we moved

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<v Speaker 3>to the outskirts of Buenos Aires and we got this tiny,

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<v Speaker 3>tiny apartment with a tin roof. It was in the

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<v Speaker 3>back of a family's house, and we started buying some

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<v Speaker 3>furniture a couple of chairs, a table, and some plates,

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<v Speaker 3>a cover for our bed, and we put a Beatles

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<v Speaker 3>poster in the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Medium and Juan don't get to live there for very long.

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<v Speaker 2>Crackdowns become more frequent. They have to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>hiding at friends houses or at cheap motels. They're preparing

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<v Speaker 2>for the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked out the window, and if we saw anyone

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<v Speaker 3>that looked like an officer or soldier, I would freak out,

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<v Speaker 3>and Juan calm me down. He always told me I

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<v Speaker 3>was paranoid. Everything was so intense, the loss of our friends,

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<v Speaker 3>attending nearly empty group meetings because most people disappeared. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>for us, one day, it felt like ten years. We

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<v Speaker 3>made love a lot. We loved each other, but we

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<v Speaker 3>were living on the edge. So every time we could

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<v Speaker 3>touch each other, every time we could kiss each other,

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<v Speaker 3>it was like it could be the last time.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was one critical part of their group's training

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<v Speaker 2>that they would always carry a cyanide pill and pledge

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<v Speaker 2>to swallow it before they were captured.

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<v Speaker 3>We had decided to take our own lives before having

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<v Speaker 3>to endure torture, which could lead to us giving away information,

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<v Speaker 3>and that could lead to our friends getting captured. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>it was an order coming from the years of our organization,

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<v Speaker 3>don't get captured alive. To me, it was simple. You

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<v Speaker 3>get captured and they own your body. They would pass

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<v Speaker 3>you over from one force to another, or if they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to, they would just put a bullet in your head,

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<v Speaker 3>so they would dictate when and how you died. But

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<v Speaker 3>with the Sinai pill, we were in control of our death,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was kind of like a small victory over them,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Two nights before her kidnapping, Medium is walking through the

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<v Speaker 2>streets of Buenos Aires, heading back to where she and

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<v Speaker 2>Juan are staying. They're still in hiding.

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<v Speaker 3>It was raining that night. I noticed a car with

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<v Speaker 3>foggy windows. Inside I see the silhouettes of three or

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<v Speaker 3>so men. I start zigzagging my way through the streets

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<v Speaker 3>and corners to evade it, but sooner or later it

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<v Speaker 3>would be there again.

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<v Speaker 2>Two days later, on May seventeenth, nineteen seventy seven, Medium

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<v Speaker 2>finds herself running for her life, being chased by three

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<v Speaker 2>men in a ford falcon.

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<v Speaker 3>And I keep screaming off the top of my lungs.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Miriam Lewin, Please help me, She.

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<v Speaker 2>Yells out, her phone number, begging anyone who can hear

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<v Speaker 2>to call her family. Then the moment Medium in her

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<v Speaker 2>fellow militants had prepared for.

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<v Speaker 3>I reach into the pocket of my leather jacket. I

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<v Speaker 3>take out the cyanide pill and I put it in

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<v Speaker 3>my mouth. I look up at the sky, and in

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<v Speaker 3>my head I think, God, thank you for letting me

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<v Speaker 3>die to help save my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually cyanide pills are made out of glass. Once you

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<v Speaker 2>crush it with your teeth, the glass cuts your mouth

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<v Speaker 2>the poison enters the bloodstream quickly. But Medium cyanide capsule

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<v Speaker 2>is homemade. It's plastic.

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<v Speaker 3>I try to puncture the pill with my teeth as

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<v Speaker 3>fast as I could, but the officers catch on and

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<v Speaker 3>force me to spit it out. Never imagined they would

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<v Speaker 3>catch me alive. I was young, healthy, but at that

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<v Speaker 3>moment I didn't hesitate. I just wanted to die.

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<v Speaker 2>In the next episode, Medium is taken alive to a

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<v Speaker 2>clandestine center to be interrogated, the exact scenario that she

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<v Speaker 2>and her fellow comrades had tried to avoid at all costs.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, Miriam, look at me. I am the man

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<v Speaker 3>responsible for your life and your death. As long as

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<v Speaker 3>you collaborate, as long as you're good, nothing will happen

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<v Speaker 3>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>From Orbit Meati, this is Avenger, the Story of Medium Lewin.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host and Senior producer Andresca Vaccheedo. The series

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<v Speaker 2>was produced by es Seguiel, Rodrie Sandino and edited by

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<v Speaker 2>Monica Campbell. Original score Nicolas Paschella, mixing and mastering Christopher

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<v Speaker 2>Hoff and Austin Smith. Assistant producers andres Feschtenholz and Eleanna Gillespi.

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<v Speaker 2>FactCheck Alejandro Marinelli and leonardos Canone. Legal review Neil Rossini.

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<v Speaker 2>Casting director Paula Gammon Wilson. The executive producers from Orbit

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<v Speaker 2>Media are Steve Fishman Fisher Stevens, Marcy Wiseman, and Katie Springer.

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<v Speaker 2>The voice actors in Avenger include Alexis Boddell as Medium Lewin,

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<v Speaker 2>Fulvio de la Volta as Giancarlo Serraudo, Gonzalo Vargas as

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<v Speaker 2>Enrique Pinedo, Edgardo Manono Castro as Bruno Vain, and Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Schubert as Carlos Macosmiliana and Gustavo. This podcast was produced

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<v Speaker 2>US in association with Sonado. The Sonado executive producers are

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<v Speaker 2>Camilla Victoriano, Joshua Weinstein and Jasmine Romero. The rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the Sonodo production team includes Senior producer Carmen Gratedol, editor

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<v Speaker 2>Rodrigo Cresco, Producer Paloma Navarro, Nicoletti, Evelyn Uribe, Mariana Cornell,

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<v Speaker 2>Sara Mota, Manuel Parra, Hanna Baram and Tasha Sandoval. Special

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to Radio and CASA and Pomeranec Recording Studios in

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<v Speaker 2>Buenos Aires, and to medium Lewin and Giancarlo Serraudo for

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<v Speaker 2>letting us tell their story. Thank you for listening.