1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: As media, What. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: Up with It? Part two? 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Let's just jump back into the convo with me and 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: my homegirl Bridget talking about Crabs, Eighteenth Street, U Street, 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: my aunt curling Erin. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: You gotta really love your. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Mother and your father DC, question Mark Asylum, Wilee Otysseee, 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: I really love DC. Citizen Coke, the dude that produced 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: this one thing has got me dripping god this one 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: and crazy in love DC and Chuck Brown Junkyard Band, 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: Backyard Boys DC. 12 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: Sheesh. Yeah, Okay, so that's all the joy. You told 13 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: me a lot. 14 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: About the frustration, as far as like really not being 15 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: seen as like somebody that the rest of the country 16 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: needs to take serious. 17 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: I add one more frustration or as it's kind of 18 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: into the joy all of the things that you've just 19 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: described about the uniqueness of DC and how you need 20 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: to experience it. My concern is twofold one that we 21 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: have a whole lot of folks new to the city 22 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: who are not experiencing this, and that two that just 23 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 3: the demographics of our city are really changing due to 24 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: things like gentrification, lack of affordable housing, and these things 25 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 3: that make DC a city that is worth coming to, 26 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: that make DC special I think are threatened. Right, Yeah, 27 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: so the city. And again not to say that cities 28 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: like New Orleans are doing everything right, but they have 29 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: identified that they have a unique culture that is being 30 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: driven by black and brown folks to be protected because 31 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: people want to come to the city to enjoy and 32 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: take part in that culture. And in DC, I worry 33 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: that a lot of the talk of preserving that culture 34 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: is not meaningful. 35 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 4: Right. 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: They will knock down places where black and brown folks live, 37 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: they will put up condos that nobody can afford, and 38 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: they'll call it the Ellington as a nod to what 39 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: was once there. But it's not like the people who 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: are part of that culture could ever take part in it. 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: And so, yeah, all of these things that are that 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: are wonderful and beautiful about DC, it is so important 43 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: that they like those aren't happenstance. They come by making 44 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: sure that folks that contribute to that culture are able 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: to really show up here and put roots here and 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 3: not leave, not move to Maryland or Virginia, stay here 47 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: in the district path kids that are able to stay here. 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: And I'm concerned that I. 49 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: Don't see our leaders really making an effort to see 50 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: and appreciate that because that's why people want to be 51 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: in the city in the first place. 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's that's such a good that's such a 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: good thing. Like one of my cousins like purposefully was like, no, 54 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm buying a house in the district, like for that 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: reason that He's just like, nah, we need to not leave. 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: And what's crazy is like he's his crib is like 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: a block or two away from where you know, our 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: granny's crib was that when she got too old. You know, 59 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: we ended up kind of sucks, like we ended up 60 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: having a sell, you know. At the same time, it 61 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: was like, I mean, what did you know? 62 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: What did we know? Who knew that? 63 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: Like it was gonna balloon a two point five million 64 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, we didn't. 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: Know that it was a hood, you know what I'm saying. 66 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: But I do more in that. I do more. 67 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: And like you said, like the the sort of cream 68 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: of mushroom souping of all of our new areas sort 69 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: of becoming just that, like just this beige kind of 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: khaki version of the rich seasoning that that the city 71 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: had and the reason why to go, you know what 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Like you said, like a reason why to 73 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: go and a reason why to stay. Oh man, if 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: you could change, Like okay, So there's some stuff that's 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: like okay, you know we were sort of equal parts, 76 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: like our family is I think a symbol of that, 77 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: Like we were sort of equal parts, like you know, 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: church going, you know black folks that my my family 79 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: was part of, like the the you know House of Prayer, 80 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: you know church. Yeah, you know, one of my aunts 81 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: is like like high up in that denomination, you know 82 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, uh, you know, there's that, and 83 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: then the other part was like, oh yeah, we were 84 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: the DC connect for the Baltimore the Baltimore drug ring 85 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: that the wire is based on. 86 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 87 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that was one of my other one of 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: my other cousins, you know what I'm saying. 89 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 2: So like there was definitely the spectrum. 90 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: It's definitely the spectrum, you know what I'm saying, Like 91 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of crime. 92 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like let me not hey, 93 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: no point me lying to you know what I'm saying, 94 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: Like really went down. 95 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: I think one of the first signs I ever got 96 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: like punched in the face you know, and me being 97 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: from like I remember once we was at summer summer camp, 98 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: same cousin cause Benny was like, hey, you see that 99 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: boy right there he was because we got you know, 100 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: like I said, we was just defending for ourselves. We 101 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: got signed up for a summer camp. He was like 102 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: that dude right there, he's gonna pick on you. He 103 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: probably gonna take take your food and your money. You 104 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: just have to bust them. I was like what he 105 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: was like, you gotta bust him. I was like, what 106 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: do you mean by that? He was like, punch. You 107 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: have to punch him. So I'm again from LA. I 108 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: was like, I gotta fire on it because that's what 109 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: we was like, oh, so I need to fire on it. 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, you have the first time 111 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: he says something to you, you have to fire on it. 112 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: And I was like, why would I do that? You know, 113 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: Like I couldn't understand. I was like, so my answer 114 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: is like So I was like where is he from? 115 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: He from? Like is he from another neighborhood? 116 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: Like because for us everything was was gang you know 117 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: what I mean? So I was just like, I mean, 118 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: is he like is he from a rival hood? Like 119 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: why Like what is the thing, Like I don't understand, 120 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: Like why do I got a problem with that dude? 121 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Like who is he with? Like does he is his 122 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: cruel year? You know, you just know the origin store. 123 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: I need to know. 124 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: You just don't be punched, Like again, I'm from La, 125 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: Like you just don't. You just don't take off on 126 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: somebody without knowing what neighborhood in my end is there. 127 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is that his apartment complex? 128 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: Can he leave in five minutes come back with a 129 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: stick with it? 130 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: Like I don't. Don't just do that? You know. 131 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: He was like you have to do it. They just 132 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: all the boys were like you have to do it. 133 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like, I'm only here 134 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: for the summer. They was like, you have to do it. 135 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, I was ready and like 136 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: and for some reason, I guess because I came as 137 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: their cousins, he didn't even he never even said anything 138 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: to me, So I just so, I guess because they 139 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: had already established that like not us, you know, right, 140 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: So but I was ready. I was like, Okay, here 141 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: we go. But either way, during that summer, we definitely 142 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: fought and I definitely was like this again, we fought 143 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: where I'm from, we fought for a reason. It was like, 144 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: but I mean the reason was stupid. You know, youve 145 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: on that street. I live on that street. But I 146 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: don't know this dude. But there was moments where we 147 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: were just in that summer. He was like, you're gonna 148 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: fight today. We gotta fight today. I was like, okay, 149 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: so we just had to fight that day. I still 150 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: don't know. I still don't know why we was fighting, 151 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: but we had to fight that day. But that was 152 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: phil for me. It was like, I mean that was DC. 153 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: You know, Oh that's I I love the comparison of 154 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: that experience compared to California, where you're like, well, there's 155 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: a reason for this. It might not be the smartest reason, no, 156 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: but there's yeah, but like there's it has been explained 157 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: to me why this person, you know, what's the deal 158 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: is here? 159 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: It's not just randomly today's. 160 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: The day, Today's day. 161 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 4: Bro, Yeah, I mean I think that. 162 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: I mean, and listen, it's anybody who's been paying attention 163 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: to the conversation since the summertime. Yeah, crime in DC, 164 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: like like we even have, like I have been reporting 165 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: on it talking about it. I don't want to downplay it. 166 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: You know, like a lot of cities. After twenty twenty, 167 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 3: crime in d C rose sharply, But before that crime 168 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 3: had really been trending downwards since like what you think 169 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: of as the high crime DC time the eighties and nineties. Yeah, 170 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: and so DC's on a loan in that. And when 171 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: you look at other cities, however, DC did have a 172 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: pretty like substantial jump. And when Trump made all of 173 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: his like big like, oh, We're coming into d C 174 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: for the crime, crime is actually trending down at that point. 175 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 3: But I do think that just like most cities. I mean, 176 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: I don't like that crime is just a reality of 177 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: living in the city, but it is. I mean, it 178 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: just is the reality living in a place like DC. 179 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: And I don't think that anybody should. I don't say 180 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: this to poop pooh it and be like, well, if 181 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: you live here, you better be ready for crime. I 182 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: would say, it is a city. And so if you 183 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: come to a city that you're not familiar with, you're 184 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 3: not from here, you don't. 185 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: Know the culture, you don't know the norms. 186 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would tell anybody who comes to any city 187 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: to you know, like keep your head on a swivel. 188 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 3: I hear about. I mean, I don't. I gets so 189 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: complicated to talk about. Yeah, I think that if I'm 190 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: being real, the expectation that you should be able to 191 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: walk around a city like DC and not have that 192 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: you that you can abandon common sense, that's just not 193 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: going to happen, right, And so I don't want to 194 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: blame people who are the victims of crime, but I 195 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: do think what we It's a complicated conversation to have. 196 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: But I'll hear people who go to cities and expect 197 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: it to be something they saw on TikTok of like, oh, 198 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: why can't I you know, just like and it's like, well, 199 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: you can't because it's a city, and so you need 200 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: to understand that when you come. 201 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah you yeah, Like why it's okay, it's two in 202 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: the morning, you're drunk and you parked on a side street. Yes, 203 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: I just don't understand what expectations you had. 204 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: Again, I mean again, I don't. 205 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: I know it probably sounds like I'm blaming the victim, 206 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: but I remember reading about somebody whose car was stolen 207 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, this is a weird case. 208 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: And I read and they said, oh, well, I had 209 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: to run into the to to grab my dry cleaning, 210 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: so left my car running with the keys in it 211 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: for a few minutes, door unlocked, and I thought, well, 212 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: what are we doing? You know, like, I almost feel 213 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: like it's not again. I don't want to blame a victim, 214 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: but this is not behavior that you should be I 215 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: wouldn't I wouldn't do that in the suburbs. I wouldn't 216 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: do that anywhere, you know, like, but these I guess to, 217 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: I guess to. I said that to say. I get 218 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: very concerned about the way that we talk about crime 219 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: in cities, particularly DC, and I do actually feel that 220 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: that is why the way that we talk about crime 221 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: enabled Trump to do what he did in DC. Right 222 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 3: that even though crime was trending downward, we allowed a 223 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: handful of high profile, yet rare incidents that had very 224 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 3: you know, visceral images. I'm thinking of like the Doge 225 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: staffer who got into an incident. Yeah, big balls. So 226 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: I understand. I think there's just something that happens when 227 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: you have an image of somebody bloodied and beaten that 228 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: is so visceral that that the truth doesn't matter. 229 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter that crime is down. 230 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter that violent crimesm It doesn't matter that 231 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: our city council and our mayor at that point had 232 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: actually taken quite I would argue drastic steps, perhaps too 233 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: drastic to deal with crime, youth curfused. All of that 234 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: was our mayor, Muriel Bowser. People want to pretend that 235 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: that was all Trump. Not so our mayor was already 236 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: taking some very hard line anti crimes crime stances that 237 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: a lot of I gets in the. 238 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 4: City thought was overboard. Right. 239 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: Again, it's complex because there are plenty of old school DC, 240 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 3: longtime residents, Black residents who would say, well, we need 241 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: to do something. So it's not It's not as if 242 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 3: every black resident in DC is against hardline crime, you know, crackdowns. 243 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: That's a whole other conversation that really runs deep in 244 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: our communities, as I'm sure you know. But no, yeah, yeah, 245 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: the conversation around crime is just so complex in our cities, 246 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: and DC is no different. I guess I'll put it 247 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: that way. 248 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: I love that. 249 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: It's also like, uh an example of like when you 250 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: say this city or this location, the crime rate is 251 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: this one number, either up or down. There's there's no 252 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: discussion around well, areas like you know, it's certain nuances. 253 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: It's like nobody's getting their carjacked in front of the Smithsonian. 254 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: No, and that was the crazy thing. 255 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like when they cracked down, when they when 256 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: they had federal agents for the longest time, the agents 257 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: were in like near the White House, the Smithsonian, places 258 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: where like people are not experiencing. 259 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: Everybody's yeah, like, what are you talking about? 260 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: You know, in in areas where there's yeah, obviously, like 261 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: there are crimes of survival there, you know what I'm saying, 262 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: And you're not asking. 263 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: Nobody's asking like how we got here? 264 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: You feel me like, and maybe that crime is Yeah, 265 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: I jumped the I hopped the turnstile to get on 266 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: the train. Okay, So did I steal from the city? 267 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you know what I'm saying, Like, Okay, 268 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna call that a crime? I mean, I mean, 269 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: I guess you know, did this little child, did this 270 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: little child come in here and grab an extra back, 271 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, an extra cart in the milk? 272 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: Yes? 273 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: So does that mean that shoplifting is a problem? What 274 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: do you want me to say? 275 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: Dude? 276 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you know what I'm saying, But then also, 277 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: like you said, the ridiculousness of being like you just 278 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: gonna lead a car running outside while you jump into 279 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: the Like I kind of feel like you wanted your 280 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: car stolen, Like who leaves their car run? Like what 281 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: is you talking about? You know what I'm saying? And 282 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: why would you do that? I just like, look around, 283 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: that's a pawn shop right there. Bro, there's like a 284 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, we buy gold right here, homie, Like there's 285 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: a liquor store right there. 286 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: Maybe you shouldn't. 287 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: What is you doing? 288 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Do you know anybody over here? Like this is not 289 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: your like, this is not your neighborhood. So like obviously 290 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of times, which is another thing that 291 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: I wish we could would be a part of just 292 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: the crime and poverty discussion. It is like sometimes it's 293 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: like when you live in that community, you are also nervous. 294 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: You are also scared and protective of your own neighborhood. 295 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: So if I see a car I don't recognize, if 296 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: I see a person, I don't understand, Like my knee 297 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: jerk reaction is to be like, well, wait, what is 298 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: your business here? 299 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: Like who are you? Why are you over here? Who 300 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: do you know? 301 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: You know? 302 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 303 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: And some of that is not it's not aggression as 304 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: if like you know, as as if that we are 305 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: these are baryons that people talk. 306 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: No, it's protection. It's like I don't know your business here. 307 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: I don't know you. 308 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're I don't know, like I 309 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: don't know you, We've never seen you. Like why would 310 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: I just I'm gonna say something because I don't know 311 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: who you are, you know what I mean? 312 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: And like I don't know what you're doing in here. 313 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: We come from neighborhoods where like. 314 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: The Amtrak train would just happen to stop on Alameda 315 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: in Compton aff full of guns, you know, and like, 316 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: oh there's an there's an abandon there's an abandoned buick. 317 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: If you pop the truck, there's drugs and guns in it, 318 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: Like whose car is this? You know what I'm saying, 319 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: Like like these things I wish I was making them up. 320 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: These things happen, you know. So some of it is 321 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: just as simple as like you walked into a place 322 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: and whether you know it or not, you are a threat. 323 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: So I'm being as protected as anyone would be. 324 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: I don't know who you are. 325 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why you're here, you know, and as 326 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: much as as much. 327 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: And I'm like, and y'all do the same to us. 328 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Y'all do the same to us when we walk into 329 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: walk into the department stores that you think we don't 330 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: belong in. 331 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, doing you look at or something? 332 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're scared, aren't you? 333 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: I'm like me too, fam And I think it really 334 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: connects to what I was saying earlier of the way neighborhoods, 335 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: especially in places like DC, change so quickly. Like when 336 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: you have people who have just moved here or not 337 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: from here, who walk around and they are giving off 338 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 3: an aura of like, I don't belong here, I'm scared, 339 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: and then you're you. 340 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 4: You might not even they might not even. 341 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: Realize that they're actually projecting something that they maybe don't 342 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: even want to be projecting. 343 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 4: Right. 344 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you walk by people like like, I live 345 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: in a building that is that is next door to 346 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 3: someone who has lived there for like decades. Yeah, when 347 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: you see her out on her porch, you smile and 348 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: you say hello, you wave and say hello. If you 349 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: come to this neighborhood and don't do that, you are 350 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: signaling something, whether you understand it or or not right. 351 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: And so I think that when. 352 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 3: We come when it comes to what it means to 353 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: feel safe and belong in communities, I want to live 354 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: in a real community, not a community of people who 355 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: are walking around projecting fear from people that they don't 356 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: know and haven't bothered to get to know. 357 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 4: And I think that really is. 358 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: The undercurrent of what's going on, at least in my neighborhood. 359 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: Now do. 360 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: So last question, you're planning the perfect day. Friend comes 361 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: into town. So let's let's make it perfect for you. 362 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: So like, are you going to where did they fly into? 363 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: Did they fly into Ronald Reagan, b w I or Dulles? 364 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: Remember this is perfect, This is perfect? 365 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: Okay, Well I would have said, uh, d C A 366 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: Reagan the it's been a little dicey lake, but it is. 367 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: But it is the closest airport to the city you 368 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 3: can I have. This is my smuggest thing. 369 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 4: You could. 370 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 3: You could even take bike share to d C, a 371 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 3: which I've done before. So just so just for okay, 372 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: ease ease of getting into the city. Let's say they're 373 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: flying into DA. 374 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: So ease so so easy get into there. Flying in 375 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: d C a d c A. You got twenty four 376 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: hours with them. Where are we going to breakfast? 377 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 2: Lunch? What are we kicking it? 378 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: Let's just say and again it's perfect. So whatever monthly event, 379 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: this just happens to be the month or the day 380 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: that it's happening, whether it's a day, party, night, thing off. 381 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: At the airport right now. 382 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 3: I got it. So we're getting into a time machine 383 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: and so silly perfec day. 384 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: It's a perfect day. 385 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: But there was this spot and it's I I really 386 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: do feel like somebody could write an essay the best. 387 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: My favorite brunch brought in DC was Forever Marvin. It 388 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: was a Marvin Gaye I guess so a theme restaurant 389 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: sounds a little sounds a little funky, but it was 390 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: like a restaurant in tribute to Marvin gay Okay. So 391 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: there's an era in DC that it sounds so whack 392 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: to even say, but like the first iteration, the first 393 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: Obama administration, and this is not to be like ra 394 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: rao Obama, but there was an influx of just like 395 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 3: young black folks in the city. The energy in the city, 396 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: just like the energy really changed and it actually, I 397 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: actually do think it's true what they say that DC 398 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: the vibe can change with political administrations because you got 399 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: an influx of people who move in and then an inflex. 400 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: People who move out. 401 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: And so I remember living in the district when the 402 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: Bush administration left and the Obama administration came in for 403 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: the first time, and like that talk about a fucking 404 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: culture shift. And so I would say, we're going, we're 405 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: getting in a time machine. We're doing a Marvin's Rooftop brunch. 406 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: Woa, okay, I used to have. 407 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even I don't even want to, 408 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: thank thank god, I don't remember a lot of those times. Yes, 409 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: it used to be so fun. They would have DJs 410 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: and lovely rooftop And this also was back in the 411 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: day when like everything is so expensive. Now, this was 412 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 3: back when you could really like do some damage at 413 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: a at a at a bottomless brunch and it wouldn't 414 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: it wouldn't be that that expensive. So we're gonna we're 415 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: gonna go to brunch there. Uh that's yeah, that's what 416 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: we're gonna eat. We're gonna have that long, kind of 417 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: boozy rooftop brunch with dancing and DJs at the. 418 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: Marvin Rooftop Okay, Marvin Rooftop, all right, So that's brunch. 419 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: I love it. So that's brunch. That's food. We've kicked it. 420 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: That's music. 421 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: Are we I don't know when, Like, are we getting 422 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: a hookah because some reason hookah has kidnapped the black people, Like. 423 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I have asthma, so I will watch 424 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: someone dude. 425 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so may Okay. 426 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: What we're doing is it's a Sunday and the weather 427 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: is perfect. Okay, we are going to one of my 428 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: favorites bosts in the city, Malcolm X Park. Okay, they 429 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 3: do a just a They've been doing it since I've 430 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: since I've been here. I don't even know when it started, 431 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: but they do this amazing drum circle meet up thing 432 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: in the park. Like everybody in DC comes to Malcolm 433 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: X Park on Sundays. Okay, it is this big thing 434 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: we're basically when I say drum circle, it sounds hippy dippy, 435 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: and I guess it is a little bit. But people 436 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: bring saxs, phones, they bring trumpets, they bring drum kits, 437 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 3: like people will will assemble drum kits. And even if 438 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: you don't participate in the actual physical drum circle, the 439 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: vibe in the The vibe in the park is just 440 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: there's there's nothing there. You have to come next time 441 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: that you're indy and the weather is nice and it's funny. 442 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: It's it's one of those asyncredous things where I'm not 443 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: even sure who started it or who runs I don't 444 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: think anybody really runs it. It's just a drop in thing. 445 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: So that's just a lovely word. We're getting a blanket, 446 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: we're sitting in the park and watching this. Uh it's 447 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 3: also a lovely place for sunset. 448 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 4: In the city. Okay, this is really is. 449 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: This just a nice probably my favorite thing to do 450 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: in the city. 451 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: That's dope. So sunset all right. 452 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: Uh So the last thing we're doing is we go 453 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: to dinner and then you're taking me back to the airport. 454 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 3: Where would I take you to dinner? Oh well, we 455 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: would probably get seafood from my favorite seafood place. Uh 456 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: it So it used this so it is a d 457 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 3: C staple. It used to be called Fish in the Hood, 458 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: but they changed the name. The owner was like, you know, 459 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: I have to say the neighborhood is changing. So now 460 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: it's called Fish in the Neighborhood. But it is still 461 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: a d C staple. They have mac and cheese there 462 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: that literally what street is that on? 463 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 4: Oh? Let me look it. 464 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: Up because that sounds so familiar you. 465 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: Might have remembered it. It closed for a while. 466 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: Shut down for a while. 467 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 3: See what is the address. Oh it's on Georgia, George. 468 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. Have you been there? Yeah? 469 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god? Their mac And let me tell you 470 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: the last time I was there, I was there with 471 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: somebody who is now my ex but like we're still friendly, 472 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 3: so this is not a like bashing this person story, 473 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 3: but we were like, oh, what should we get? Should get? 474 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: And we were like, oh, we had to share this 475 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 3: mac and cheese. When I tell you, I was like this, 476 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: it almost tore our relationship apart, trying to share their 477 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: mac and cheese because it's that good, but like we 478 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: should have just gotten our own mac and cheese. 479 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, no for real, Okay, Fish in the Hood that 480 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: yeah on Georgia aff yup that place. 481 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that might be my favorite place to get seafood, 482 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 3: soul food in the city, although I might have to 483 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 3: say it's not my it's not my favorite. It's not 484 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 3: my favorite place to get food, but it's so historic. 485 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 3: I think that I always have to give a nod 486 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: to Ben's Chili Bowl. Have you not been? 487 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the. 488 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: Food is nothing. I mean no, I will never I 489 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: will never disparage them. But like the food is nothing 490 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: to write home about. But when you going as an experience, 491 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 3: and it's such a historic place in the city during 492 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: the riots after the assassination of MLK, it was it 493 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 3: was the place where everybody met up. It stayed open, 494 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: which was an unusual thing there. So I have to 495 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 3: I have to give a shout out to that place, 496 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: even though I probably wouldn't take someone there unless they 497 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 3: hadn't been. 498 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more. 499 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some spots like that, Like yeah, the 500 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: the barbecue spot that Tiffany Hattish and her family is 501 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: is kind of a part of is. Yeah, that's on 502 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: Western and Florence. I think, yeah, Western and Florence. 503 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: Either way, Like it's good, but like this is South. 504 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: Central, Like you should you should come down here, you 505 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, so yeah for Shure, Like, nah, 506 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: we we got spots like that. This sounds like such 507 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: a great This is dope, dude, This is see and 508 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: this is the DC. These are the hellscapes that we 509 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: actually love and live in. 510 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it may be a bombed out healthscape. 511 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: Oh man, all right, Bridget, so tell them all the 512 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: new stuff you're working on, and then we're gonna go ahead. 513 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: We might make this a two parter because this was 514 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 2: an hour, but that's Oh. 515 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 3: My gosh, this has been so fun. I you've I 516 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: can't wait to go out and fall back in love 517 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 3: with my city again after this. Listen to the other 518 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 3: cities that you've done and fall in love as well. 519 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 520 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 3: You can listen to me on my podcast on iHeart 521 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: There are no girls on the Internet. It's all about 522 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: tech and identity and culture. You can also listen to 523 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: the podcast that I make with Mozilla Foundation about ethics 524 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 3: in AI and people who are trying to make AI 525 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 3: less terrible, called I r L. You can hear me 526 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: sometimes on it can happen here yep. Yeah. Follow me 527 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: on Instagram at Bridget Marie in DC. Love to have 528 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: you there. 529 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. Bridget. 530 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: Please continue to support the hold down the DEI section 531 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: of cool. All right up, well that's it, Southeast DC, 532 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: Chocolate City, We love you. Next time you'll hear from me, 533 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: it will be it does state of the Blackness. All right, now, 534 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: don't you hit stop on this pod. You better listen 535 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: to these credits. I need you to finish this thing 536 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: so I can get the download numbers. Okay, so don't 537 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: stop it yet, but listen. 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