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Speaker 1: let's dive into the game. It was a lot too

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Speaker 1: a little. That was a major mismatch. That was j

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Speaker 1: V Verse Varsity. Let's be real. That was pretty embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: and I love the draft. I've loved the draft since

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Speaker 1: deserved to keep their job. But that's the logical decision,

427
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: is to get rid of them. Because if they could

428
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: get rid of rid of Kyler Murray, if they could

429
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: get rid of Russell Wilson, obviously they would entertain those thoughts.

430
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: It's a it's a no brain or decision. You get

431
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: rid of both. But you can't because of guaranteed money.

432
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: And so when you look at the Cardinals, their job

433
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: is pretty intriguing right because it's the only general manager

434
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: job open and unlike coaches, which right now there are

435
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: currently five head coaching jobs open. That could change, could

436
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: end up being seven or eight, we'll see. Time will tell,

437
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: but coaching jobs come open every single year at minimum five,

438
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: sometimes seven to nine. General manager jobs. There are years

439
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: where no GM jobs open, so it's easy to go.

440
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to mess with Kyler Murray. If anything,

441
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: you should sell yourself on. Well, there's a lot to

442
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: work with, and it's one of thirty two. It is

443
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: a hard job to get your hands on. And here's

444
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: the other thing. Steve Kime had that job for a

445
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: long time. The owner is shown while the franchise. I

446
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: heard this while I was watching some of the press conference,

447
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: has never had a head coach in the history of

448
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: the franchise. Now, they've lived, the franchise has been located

449
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: in several different places. It's over a hundred years old.

450
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: They've never had a coach for longer than six years.

451
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: It's it's an underachieving franchise. But there is a lot

452
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: to work with beside Kyler Murray, and it's gonna be

453
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: fascinating now. Ultimately, the organization has a history of being

454
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: pretty cheap, and the cheap decision here because they're paying

455
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: Kingsbury and let's face it probably come to go away

456
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: and potentially all of Kingsbury staff. It's not cheap, even

457
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: though money is all relative. And now paying thirty forty

458
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: million dollars for a coaching staff and executives to leave.

459
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: While sounds like a lot of money to the overwhelming

460
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: majority of human beings on this earth, when you get

461
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: three hud plus million dollars just from the media rights alone,

462
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: not counting your ticket revenue, not counting the other revenue

463
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: you get from the stadium like it's it's it's an

464
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: accounting era. Now, would you rather still have forty or

465
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: fifty or thirty million dollars? Of course, but this is

466
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: not a business that Well, they made fifty million dollars

467
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: in revenue and they got to spend forty of it

468
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: to pay pay someone to go away. That's not the

469
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: way it works. Maybe they got to spend five or

470
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: six or eight per cent of their annual revenue to

471
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: get someone to leave, but so be it. You know,

472
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: welcome to the NFL. And I think all these owners

473
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: are realizing, we can't afford it. Now. Can we afford

474
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: to then go after Sean Payton and say, hey, we'll

475
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: give you a hundred million dollars? Probably not. It's why

476
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: all signs are pointing to the organization doing something dumb,

477
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: potentially doing co general managers, which to me makes no

478
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: sense in elevating Vance Joseph. That's where I'd put my

479
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: money on, because ultimately, this owner has a long history

480
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: of being somewhat cheap, and that is the cheap move,

481
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: And if I wanted to defend him on that move,

482
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: they have a problem with Kyler Murray for the next

483
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: several years. You might as well just ride that out

484
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: and then try to pivot because I do believe that

485
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: you would have several personnel people very, very interested in

486
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: this job. I do wonder from a coaching perspective, whether

487
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: you could get an established coach or whether you'd have

488
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: to take a swing on a first time head coach.

489
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: And they've done that before with Steve Wilkes and it failed.

490
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: Now they've also done it with Bruce Arians and it succeeded.

491
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: But Bruce Arians had a lot of success. Why they

492
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: got Carson Palmer. They got Carson Palmer and they crushed it.

493
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes got Josh Rosen failed, Kingsbury got Kyler Murray failed.

494
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be fascinating to watch this

495
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: play out. And I think when you look at the

496
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: other organizations like Denver, they're sniffing around all the big Dogs.

497
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: I would be shocked if they don't offer jobs two

498
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: guys like Jim Harbon Sean Payton. Obviously, Jim Harbaugh, does

499
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: he have the juice at this current time to bring

500
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: in his personnel man, because if he does and they

501
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: want to hire him, then their general manager will get fired.

502
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: Does Jeff Saturday keep the job? As crazy as that sounds?

503
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: And I say, every single human too that watch the

504
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: Colts over this last month and a half and just

505
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: watch them lose game after game after game would go,

506
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: how in the hell would he keep the job? I'll

507
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: tell you how. The owner's nuts and he wants to

508
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: hire him, and what's anyone gonna do? I think I

509
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: talked about this a couple of weeks ago, like, if

510
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: you're a Colts fanner, you're just gonna not renew your

511
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: cold season tickets. And ultimately where they need you the

512
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: most is to watch the games. So if you're a

513
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: Colts fan, are you not gonna watch the game? I

514
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: got news for you. You won't. You'll still watch. So

515
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: that that is where I'd be a betting man, is

516
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: that Jeff Saturday keeps that job. And then Carolina like,

517
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: is Dave Tepper really leaning on this general manager. I

518
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: know that Federer said that they will not have a

519
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: long list of candidates, and you know, signs coming into

520
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: yesterday we're pointing towards Steve Wilkes keeping the job. I'm

521
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: always hesitant to keep interim coaches. I think there's a

522
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: natural kind of jolt and just want to prove it

523
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: not just the interim coach, but the players. It's just

524
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: a tumultuous time when someone gets fired in the middle

525
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: of the season, unlike indeed usually just see some improvement,

526
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: guys fighting hard. Uh my betting my guests, and if

527
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: I had to place a bet would be that Steve

528
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: Wilkes does not keep that job. But to me, it's

529
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating what happens with all those general managers,

530
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: and uh, we will just kind of stay fluid with

531
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: the situation. I'm not gonna break down all the different

532
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: individuals who were thrown interview requests. As they interview and

533
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: as the schefters and the rap sheets say that this

534
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: is the final three, then to me that becomes pretty

535
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: interesting because like the Tennessee Titans, for example, they have

536
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: I guess technically they have a general manager job open,

537
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: but is it a gentleman of your job, because in

538
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: my opinion, you're just a personnel guy. Rabel's the boss.

539
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Every single player that will come through they're moving forward

540
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: will be Rabel's choice. Your job, which is an important job,

541
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: will be to run the scouting deportment college in Pro

542
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: and do everything that Mike Rabel needs. Now, part of

543
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: being a GM is servicing your coaching staff. That way,

544
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: from a pro standpoint and from a college standpoint, running

545
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: the two personnel sides. But there's a difference in working

546
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: together and working for someone. And I don't see how

547
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: anyone views the Titans job as a as a normal

548
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: general manager spot the Arizona Cardinals. If you get hired

549
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: before the coach, that's a true GM spot the Titans like,

550
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: especially if you don't know Rabel, that's more like, uh,

551
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, a vice president of personnel. Let's dive into

552
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: a couple of playoff games, because I remember when I

553
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 1: worked in radio, we had the Oakland Ace and they

554
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 1: were really good at the time. They had Joanna Sespedists,

555
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: they had Josh Donaldson, they traded for Lester. This is

556
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: some really good teams when I was around him, and

557
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: Billy Bean was the head honcho, and he had some

558
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: other you know, Harvard analytical elites around him, and they

559
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: ran a high level operation. Their owner was a clown,

560
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: didn't spend any money. Don't totally blame him because they

561
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: didn't make any money. That's a whole another conversation. But

562
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: they believe to their core numbers numbers, numbers, and for

563
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: the most part, in the regular season it really worked.

564
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: And Billy Bean has a famous line that I don't

565
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: know if he said it in the movie, but he

566
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: said it in Michael Lewis's book, and he's he said

567
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: this over the years, that my ship doesn't work in

568
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Like his analytical uh way and philosophy of

569
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: building a team is based on the regular season, and

570
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: in baseball it's about the long haul, right. Trying to

571
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: get to nine wins is a lot different than trying

572
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: to win two out of five games, or I guess

573
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: it would be three out of five games or four

574
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: out of seven, right, And for the most part, Billy

575
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: Bean's teams have not had a lot of success in

576
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs despite making it all the time. And one

577
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: thing I remember being around the team, you just kind

578
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: of get to meet guys and hear stories, and you

579
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: get friends with the coaching staff who doesn't always see

580
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: eye to eye with the front office. And the numbers

581
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: is the number of people in baseball. I don't know.

582
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: This isn't true in football, but in baseball they always

583
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: believe that there is no difference between pressure in the

584
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: playoffs and just a regular season game. And at bat

585
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: isn't at bat. A situation is a situation, And I

586
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: always thought that's fucking insane. The pressure in the seventh

587
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: inning of a tie game, in game five or Game

588
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: seven of a playoff series is dramatically different than some

589
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: random game in June that nobody's watching. I said Darryl Morey,

590
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: I always believe, like, you gotta change your strategy a

591
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: little bit in the playoffs. Shoot three after three after three, Like, hey, guys,

592
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: you shot twenty seven straight threes and you missed them

593
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: all and that's why you lost the Warriors. How about

594
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, shoot a jumper, get to the basket, shoot

595
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: a different shot, like this is what we do. I

596
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: hate that mindset. I hate the stubborn mindset, and I

597
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: hate the belief that pressure does not exist. We all

598
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: know it does. Any single person listening to this, like

599
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: every day at the office is not the same, even

600
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: if you have high standards and your ambitious professional. Like

601
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: when you have a meeting or a a you know,

602
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: with a client who's gonna be the biggest client your

603
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: company or your business has ever done business with. That's

604
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: a little different than just your typical day sending out

605
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: some invoices. Not everything is the same on a daily basis.

606
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: And I think there are two teams this upcoming weekend

607
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: that the pressure on the two coaches is astronomical. Honestly,

608
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it could be any bigger because I

609
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: think one thing they both share in common is they

610
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: have the same seed. They're both the fifth seed, so

611
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: when you're you know, a wild card, you play a

612
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: road game. But both these two teams are favorite and

613
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: their favorite for a reason. The Chargers are better than

614
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: the Jacks. I know Jack's beat him, but when healthy,

615
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers are better. And obviously the Cowboys are better

616
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: than Tampa. You know why Tampa is terrible. We'll see.

617
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Jacksonville is that good, but I think

618
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is better than Tampa Bay. Now the differences, Yeah,

619
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, and it's hard to bet against Tom Brady.

620
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: But if you watch Tom Brady play this year, it

621
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: has not been pretty. It has not been pretty at all.

622
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: He threw twenty five touchdowns and nine picks. Honestly, I

623
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: had to look that up because I was like, if

624
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: I had to guess what TV Twelves TD interception ratio was,

625
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: I would have guessed. I guess he threw some touchdowns

626
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks to inflate it a little bit.

627
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: I probably would have guessed twenty two and fourteen. And

628
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: the eye test was horrendous. But let's start with Mike McCarthy.

629
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: They've won what twenty four games the last two years.

630
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: They've had really good regular seasons. I know it's gotten

631
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: a little weird here of late, but overall, like you

632
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: take the Eagles to the last game, have a chance

633
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: to win the division. I know you lost ultimately didn't matter,

634
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. They have had back

635
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: to back really good regular seasons. You gotta win a

636
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: playoff game, and last year they didn't not only lose

637
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: a playoff game, they kind of got worked. And it's

638
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: not like they got worked by Joe Montana or Steve Young,

639
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. I like Jimmy Garoppolo, respect him. He's like

640
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: the seventeenth best quarterback in the league. And the Niners

641
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: shoved him around. And if it wasn't for it just

642
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: a hideous Jimmy Garoppolo interception, that game was a blowout.

643
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: And if Mike McCarthy doesn't win this weekend, how does

644
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones not fire him and go hire Sean Payton?

645
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: How does he not do that? How could he keep

646
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy if, like, we're not judging the Cowboys and

647
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy on regular season games. No, I say, it's

648
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: all the time about baseball. No one cares about some

649
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: random game in August. Baseball die hards do, people to

650
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: cover the game do. But ultimately it just doesn't matter.

651
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: It just does not matter. One individual game throughout a

652
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: baseball season does not matter. That's not the case in football.

653
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: Of seventeen games, you know, you gotta get to double

654
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: digits because you gotta make the playoffs. But a large

655
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,479
Speaker 1: percentage of the games really matter. Clearly, some games matter

656
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: than more than others, divisional opponents games late in the

657
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: season if you're you know, on the playoff bubble. But

658
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: when it comes to Mike McCarthy, like part of the

659
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: reason they hired him, and they gave him seven years

660
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: or I've excused me five years. Seven you got like

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00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: a thirty forty million dollar contract. Super Bowl winner, had

662
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: a lot of success. Well, he's had success with the Cowboys,

663
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: and honestly, I tipped my hat to him this year.

664
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: It was an impressive year. Dad got hurt. I thought

665
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: their team wasn't as talented, and boom, you look up

666
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: they win twelve games. But now you're playing Tampa Bay,

667
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: who is not very good, and Tom Brady, who is

668
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: I would say, a shell of himself. Tampa Bay. There

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00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: to me the craziest at about Tampa Bay in a

670
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: division which is obviously really bad. A coach was fired

671
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: at the end of September, the one team had to

672
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: come out today and get their coaches back the same

673
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: and the Atlanta Falcons just aren't any good and really

674
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: don't have much of a future. Tampa Bay, of the

675
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: four teams in their division, had the worst point differential

676
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: minus forty five. Obviously they're under five hundred, but minus

677
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: forty five, I mean they are really bad. They're just

678
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: not very good. Mike McCarthy has to win this game,

679
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: or to me, he's getting fired and the other guy

680
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: that has to win, because I think it's easy to

681
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: pick playing guys the last game of the season. Though

682
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: I think there are two examples on his team that

683
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: it's like, listen, I understand playing justin Herbert, keep it rolling.

684
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: Mike Williams has been injured several times and clearly when

685
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: he's healthy, your team is dramatically different. So to have

686
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: him out there in that game, which obviously early on,

687
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, the result of Baltimore does not mean anything,

688
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: is inexcusable. Like to me, when we think we have

689
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: to win, he's playing whatever the moment I find out

690
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: we don't have to win. Not only is he coming

691
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: off the field, I'm taking his helmet away. I might

692
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: even tell Mike take out your pads. Like when Trent

693
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: Williams got pulled out of the game when they're beating

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00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: the crap out of the Cardinals. They had a pick,

695
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, in the fourth quarter, and a guy ran

696
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: a to the end zone to celebrate with the teammates.

697
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: Trent Williams was there, pads were off, he was just

698
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: on the sideline. So to me, you should have yanked

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00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: out Mike Williams in that game, and Joey bos like,

700
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: what are we doing? But regardless, we're here. You gotta

701
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: win this game. Your favorite on the road against the

702
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jacks and a quarterback Trevor Lawrence, which were high on,

703
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: but let's face it, against the Titans at home in

704
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: a big spot didn't look that great. You have Justin Herbert,

705
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: you have a ton of good players. I think you

706
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: have a lot of pressure because, like the Cowboys, Sean

707
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: Payton would immediately take those two jobs. He's been pretty

708
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: open and he just was open on Fox Morning Show.

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00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: He's coming back if he finds the right job. Well,

710
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: those two jobs are really good. Cowboys job Dallas freaking Cowboys,

711
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: and their team is pretty good. To me, the Charger

712
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: job is better in Dallas, just strictly because they have

713
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. At any time that you can coach Justin Herbert,

714
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: a guy that you can win a Super Bowl with,

715
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Speaker 1: I think Sean Payton is gonna be very, very interested

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Speaker 1: in that job. I talked about this on Sunday's Pod.

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00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: I do believe that the playoffs we didn't get, we

718
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: got the two worst possibilities for the seven seed. And

719
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: that's why that when you look at the two seven games,

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners are ten and a half point favorite.

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Speaker 1: I think by the time there's a kickoff, I think

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Speaker 1: the Bills could be favored by eleven and a half

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Speaker 1: twelve that that should not happen. Now. Part of the

724
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: reason we're there is because the Packers didn't take care

725
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: of business. Now, the Packers weren't that good anyway, but

726
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: they're better in Seattle, and I would have much rather

727
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: seen the Lions against the forty Niners. But we're here.

728
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: Fortys are playing Seattle the Saturday afternoon game, which is

729
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: historically the game that's kind of a throwaway game. Last

730
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: year it was Bengals Raiders. It's usually not a brand

731
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: of the forty Niners level. But because they're playing Sea

732
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: out of which I don't think there is a soul

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Speaker 1: that's gonna pick Seattle. I think universally, every single person

734
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: is gonna pick the forty Niners and the Bills to

735
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: win those two games. And there's a reason. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's enormous point spread for a playoff game. I actually

737
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: don't think this weekend is that great. I think Saturday

738
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: is pre intriguing just because Jacksonville showed out that playoff

739
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: atmosphere for them on Saturday night week A team was

740
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: pretty damn good. Uh. They have some fun players. They

741
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: have a lot of speed on their team. I like

742
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: watching a young quarterback trying to come into his own

743
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: getting some you know, kind of a first rep at

744
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: a big moment. Uh, and then the pressure that is

745
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: on the Chargers to win that game, because to me,

746
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: if Brandon Staley loses that game, I don't see how

747
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: he keeps his job when it's clear that Sean Payton

748
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: will take it. And uh, then you get to saturd

749
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: or Sunday. You know, it's hard for me. With the

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00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: Ravens Bengals game. Hard Boss said again today, you can't

751
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: answer this Lamar question. We talked about it last week.

752
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: That is a bizarre situation, But honestly, it was easy

753
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: to see coming any human being who's ever in a

754
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: professional spot. Every single person listening to this that has

755
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: been at a job or has been ran a ran

756
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: a business and had an employee that had a money issue,

757
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: it gets awkward. Whether you're talking about a raise from

758
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: eighty thousand to a hundred whether you're talking about a

759
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: contract of hundreds of millions of dollars, the moment I

760
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: think I'm underpaid or I'm getting screwed, or we're not

761
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: on the same page, eventually it's it's not gonna be workable.

762
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: It's so easy to be like, just be professional, just compartmentalized,

763
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: don't think about it, which I think we have to

764
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: do with a lot of things in our life, right.

765
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: I think it's very, very difficult to do with money.

766
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Speaker 1: I I really do, and I think the overwhelming majority

767
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: of human beings struggle with it. I do you more

768
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: likely do. Lamar clearly is, and it's in a tough situation.

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Speaker 1: And when the rubber meets the road, as it has

770
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: with the Ravens when he got this knee injury, I

771
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: don't blame him and be like, yeah, I don't know

772
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: if I'm coming back, and the Ravens clearly have no clue,

773
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: and people talk about maybe he won't be on the team,

774
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: maybe he won't. Maybe this is just one of those

775
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: situations where it's like, maybe it's time to go our

776
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: separate ways. And obviously there would be teams Washington, the Jets, Miami.

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00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: I would imagine there'd be a lot of teams that

778
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: would be very, very interested in Lamar Jackson if he

779
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: became available. Would be complicated because you have the trade picks.

780
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: But in theory that game should be good. But if

781
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: you tell me Lamar is not playing, I just don't

782
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: think it is. Obviously, the morning game builds Miami's not

783
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: very good. I mean, there's one good game to me

784
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: over the weekend. I guess two good games, like I said,

785
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: the Saturday Night game and Giants Vikings. If Brian day

786
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: Balt not only makes the playoffs, but wins a playoff game,

787
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: just a remarkable frequencias. Now, I think everyone's gonna pick

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00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: the Giants. Literally, everyone's gonna hammer the Giants. I'm probably

789
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna end up taking the Vikings. From a gambling perspective,

790
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: I might just take the Vikings minus three. I don't

791
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: love Cousins. Playoff atmosphere is at home, though, And I

792
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: just think so many people and that's basically my logic.

793
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: When every single human hangs the left when it comes

794
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: to gambling, sometimes she's gotta hang it right. And then

795
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: I think Monday Night, just from a brand standpoint, the

796
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: biggest brand in the league the Cowboys. Now it's weird,

797
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: like they're the biggest brand, but they don't have the

798
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: playoffs success. Kind of pressure on McCarthy, ton of pressure

799
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: on Doc playing Brady in a weird spice kind of

800
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: got nothing to lose, but just the overarching theme with

801
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: his like is this it is he coming back next year?

802
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: And if he does come back, like, where's he going?

803
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: What do you play for the Jets? He's gonna come

804
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: to the Raiders. What's he gonna do? So the moment

805
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: he loses, kind of like with Rogers he lost in Tricos,

806
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: like sure, feel like he's gonna retire? Does He's got

807
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: like a hundred million dollars coming to him the next

808
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: couple of years, he's gonna leave. Start saying these weird

809
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: comments after and listen, I don't try to judge people.

810
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: I'm not that religious or spiritual. I would say I'm

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00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: more spiritual than religious, But then I watched a guy

812
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers talking, I'm like, well, I'm actually probably

813
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: not that spiritual. I don't think I'm slamming ayahuasca and

814
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: like singing to the heavens. But it's just it's a

815
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: bizarre situation. I've come around, I think on coward side

816
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: of just what is the point of all this? Like

817
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: we so many people towards the end of his run

818
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: with Green Bay used to be like Brett Farve is

819
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: a drama queen for this guy who claims to be

820
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: like this rural kind of hic from Mississippi, tough guy,

821
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: blue collar. It's like he kind of became this elitist,

822
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: always had to be in the headlines, needed Peter King,

823
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: Edwarder and uh Chris Morton to talking about. And I

824
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think Rogers looks at it like that, but

825
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: the the end result is the same. He's always talking

826
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: about his future and whether he's gonna come back or not.

827
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: Like most people don't talk like that. Tom Brady hasn't

828
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: really started talking like that since until he was forty

829
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: five years old. He was adamant every single year, I'm

830
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: gonna keep playing, I'm gonna keeplaying, I'm gonna keep playing.

831
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and Drew Brees are good examples. The only

832
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: reason both guys stopped playing is they couldn't play anymore.

833
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: They couldn't play anymore. If Drew Brees and Peyton Manning

834
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: can still play, at Aaron Rodgers level, they never would

835
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: have uttered the word retirement. So I understand from a

836
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: Packers fan standpoint, like it's a little exhausting. You gotta

837
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: be better than your problems and for a long period

838
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: of time, just like far, you're so freaking good, I'll

839
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: deal with whatever. Like it's starting to get to that

840
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: line where it's like, you know, let's not act like

841
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: you're Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes right now, buddy, you

842
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: were the previous couple of years, back to back m vps,

843
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: deal with the druma but this year you start talking.

844
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: You know, you're dating, you know, Blue Sky, and you're

845
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: popping pills and smoking trees. And I'm pro smoking trees,

846
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: but you're doing some weird trees, talking about your future

847
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: that might not include football. If you're gonna do that,

848
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: you better throw forty five touchdowns and you better not

849
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: lose the Lions week. Well, it's like, yeah, if Goodakins

850
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: and these guys want to move on from me, I'm

851
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: behind it. And I wonder if the fan base, because

852
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: part of what's hard about making a move to get

853
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: rid of like a historic player, like a far or

854
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: like a Rogers is for the most part, the fans

855
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: are gonna turn on you because it's not the right move.

856
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: Though when Ted Thompson did it, everyone thought he was crazy,

857
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: it turned out to be a genius. Now, I think

858
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: it's fair to say that Jordan's Love is not the

859
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: next Farver Rodgers. But it might just be a simple thing. Yeah,

860
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: we don't want, really want to deal with this guy,

861
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: like we're not You're just gonna show back up July.

862
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: You're just gonna disappear for seven months, which is your prerogative,

863
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: but we're paying you fifty million dollars, Like I'm all

864
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: four not showing up to O T A S. I

865
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: see this all the time about the work from home movement.

866
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: I've worked from home since two thousand and sixteen, but

867
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: I also have not had a salary since two thousand eighteen.

868
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: I have to produce. I have to earn revenue or

869
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: there is no money coming my way. Everything. Every dollar

870
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: that comes my way is revenue. Without it doesn't exist.

871
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: If you paid me four grand i used work from home,

872
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: my work ethic would probably not be the same. And

873
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: I see all these people in the tech world complaining, like, oh,

874
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: my boss wants me to come back to work. Well, yeah,

875
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm paying three grand. I don't know what the hell

876
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: you're doing if you're at home and you're not making

877
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: a salary and it's all based on incentives and sales, like, yeah,

878
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: I can see whether you're working or not, but that

879
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: ain't the case. And trust me, I'm invested in some

880
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: of these companies. I'm all four, Like, let's figure our

881
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: ship out. No different, quarterback. I'm cool with you sitting

882
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: out O t S. But you better dominate. You know,

883
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: you have to show some appreciation on our side, like

884
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: what are we paying all this for? What are we

885
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: paying all this for? Everyone freaked out about like, you know,

886
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: does this guy really need to be at ot S?

887
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: And yeah when he has Davante Adams and some veteran guys,

888
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: of course not. But that wasn't the case this year,

889
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: and the drama with him is just is just never ending,

890
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: like the Lamar's drama. I get it now. I blamed him,

891
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: I could blame would be the wrong word. I sided

892
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: with the Ravens, Like, bro, they offered you a ton

893
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: of money and you turned it down. But listen, we

894
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: all have to make decisions and live with it. But

895
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: the moment you make that decision, the moment becomes nutut

896
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: in time, and my he doesn't feel right, like I

897
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: ain't fucking laying it on the line for you, and

898
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: that that creates animosity on both sides. And that's clearly

899
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: where they're at. So a lot of quarterback drama all

900
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: over the league. Obviously we're gonna have a lot of

901
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: moving parts with Jimmy Garoppolos and Derek Carrs. But you know,

902
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: it's fun part about the NFL, A little rapid fire

903
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: speaking about quarterbacks when you trade as much as the

904
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: Cleveland Bounds traded for Deshaun Watson because of you know,

905
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: the area and just his saga, you know, in the

906
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: massage therapists and all the drama there. You know, I

907
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: said that I wasn't holding him to a high standard

908
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: as a player this year, and I I agreed with that,

909
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: like that statement, I meant it when I said it.

910
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: But by the end of the season, like you would

911
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: like to see a little bit of an improvement, and

912
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: every time I watched him, he looked pretty average. And

913
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing. In the a f C. You you

914
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: don't just have good quarterbacks like you have guys that

915
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: are going to the Hall of Fame, like Patrick Mahomes

916
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: right now at whatever years old, first ballot Hall of Famer,

917
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, sure as hell is headed that way. Joe

918
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: Burrow feels like he's already a legend. Justin Herbert as

919
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: Dion would say, he's coming. Trevor Lawrence, like, listen, it

920
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: needs to improve, but let's be real, it's a lot

921
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: a lot to work with there. So the the amount

922
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: of talents, and here's the thing. The Steelers, can you

923
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: Pikett Like, I don't think he's some elite talent, but

924
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: we know their franchise is well run and they're gonna

925
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: be very, very competitive. And the Ravens, well, whatever happened

926
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: with Lamar, like, for the most part, they're pretty high

927
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: level operation. So the Cleveland Browns, we have a long

928
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: history of not being well run. Now are all other

929
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: chips from the middle of the table on Deshaun Watson.

930
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: Historic amount of money there, they don't have picks forever.

931
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna need this guy to be good. And the

932
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: pressure on that guy this offseason, like, well, we just

933
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: went through last year, growing process, growing pains. Whatever you

934
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: hadn't played in a while, that is not even like

935
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: the gap we need you to jump from from that

936
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: back to Pro Bowl level player is a must because

937
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: he didn't look remotely comfortable. He didn't look remotely close

938
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 1: to what he wants was. Here's what I will say,

939
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: though he is a he's an instinctive quarterback. He's a

940
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: I would say he's more of a playmaker than some

941
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning level Patrick Mahomes slice and dice you. He's

942
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: he was a great playmaker with the Texans. He does

943
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: not have a great arm. Well, what does that division entail?

944
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: Awful weather? Who are most of the productive quarterbacks historically

945
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: in that division? Big arm guys, big bend, Paco had

946
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: some moments Burrow. I wouldn't say it's a great arm,

947
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: but he's a great player. Wat's a better figure, ship

948
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: out or else. The Browns are in major, major trouble.

949
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: I know they fired their defensive coordinator today. Someone had

950
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 1: to go down, But I don't know, man. I would

951
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: be a little nervous if I'm a Browns fan. Um Denver.

952
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: They're clearly going to talk to a lot of people,

953
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: and they're putting basically requests in for everybody, UH from

954
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: Harbor to Sean Payton to Damiko Ryan's and assistant coaches.

955
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: It's hard to like this is who they're gonna hire.

956
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to know because they have this new owner

957
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: that has no history. And I would say one thing

958
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: that's pretty clear. I don't think they're gonna spare an expense.

959
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: If you saw the story this weekend, I didn't. I

960
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: didn't click on the headline, so I just saw the headline.

961
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if the the the grass got messed up.

962
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: They had a concert. I don't know exactly why, but

963
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: they replaced the grass for one game and it costs

964
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: four in Because, like I said, with firing these coaches,

965
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: when you have hundreds of billions of dollars, which this

966
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: family has, they're gonna be unfazed by every expense because

967
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: forty million dollars to them is not the same as

968
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: it is to Mark Davis or Mike Brown. Help forty

969
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: million of them is much different to Jerry Jones or

970
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft. The amount of cash that family has is

971
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: basically unlimited, like unlimited in a room full of super

972
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: rich guys. They might be the richest. So it's gonna

973
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: be fascinating to see how they handle it because they

974
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: could throw. Ultimately, if you want to get John Payton,

975
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: what if I threwollion dollars in it? Now you could

976
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: argue Sean Payton's already rich, he doesn't need it. But

977
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: there gets to a point where I don't care who

978
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: you are, someone throws an amount of money your way,

979
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: you sure think about it, You think long and hard

980
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: about it, and you might just say yes. And I

981
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: think on the flip side, I think Carolina is interviewing

982
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: Jim Caldwell and Frank Reich. I I would imagine that

983
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: David Tepper, after just going through what he did with Um,

984
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: with Matt Rule, a guy from college, no experience, Maybe

985
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: he just wants a guy who's been a head coach

986
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL game. Hell, Steve Wilkes, who did an

987
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: admirable job, had been a head coach in the NFL

988
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: one and done, but had just been there before, had

989
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: been had steered the ship, had been the guy in

990
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: the driver's seat. So my gut would say, just based

991
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: on that, you never know would be the Tepper this

992
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: time because usually, like think about the Arizona Cardinals, they

993
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: went from Bruce Arians and a couple of years later

994
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: they got Cliff Kingsbury. Usually go the opposite of what

995
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: you had. The forty Niners had Jim Harbaugh, hardass, and

996
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 1: they went to Jim tom Sewer. Usually kind of ebb

997
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: and flow based on the style of coach that you

998
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: had or their background. And uh, I saw Tua. He

999
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: hasn't been cleared yet. I think most people you know

1000
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: believe if he's cleared, he shouldn't play. He's gonna want

1001
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: to play. It's just that simple. Now, I think, if

1002
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: you're the league, under no circumstances, can you allow the

1003
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, who you've already nailed for multiple infractions over

1004
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: the years, even if this guy is cleared to play,

1005
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: allow him to play on Saturday first Sunday, Because if

1006
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: in that game he gets slammed to the ground and

1007
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: is lying there motionless and as his fourth concussion and

1008
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: whatever three months, that would And I'm not a huge believer,

1009
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: like that's a terrible look. You know, depending on who

1010
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: you ask, everything is a terrible look. I think we

1011
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: all agree that that would be rough. And um, I

1012
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: just wonder if the league makes some calls like, hey, guys,

1013
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: this fucking ain't happening on our watch. And so I

1014
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: would be stunned if he plays, and I think the

1015
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: the point spread reflects that because listen, I'm not the

1016
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: biggest to a guy, but if you put them in

1017
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: the game, they're clearly much better off than the scrubs.

1018
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: They're rolling out. And last, but not least, Matt Stafford

1019
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: has been rumored to potentially be retiring. I came out

1020
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: and said, I'm not. I'm planning on being back. I

1021
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: ain't leaving. As Leo once said, now here's the thing.

1022
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: If Matt Stafford comes back, if Aaron Donald's healthy, if

1023
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: Cooper Cups healthy, they do have some high end players.

1024
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: Now Matt Stafford was not good this year. Maybe he

1025
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: needs to get his elbow uh surgery on his elbow

1026
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: because that was a problem leading up to the season.

1027
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't just act like the Rams are immediately

1028
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: gonna become the Houston Texans. Like they do have some

1029
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: talent on their team. They have some guys who have

1030
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: been to Pro Bowls. They have some guys that, you know,

1031
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: sure looked like they were headed the Hall of Fame.

1032
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: Not Stafford, but Donald, probably Cup. Uh, we'll see. I

1033
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: guess Cup still got a little wise to go, but

1034
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: he's had some pretty unreal seasons. Uh, that's gonna be

1035
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 1: fascinating to watch that shape out and see what Sean

1036
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: mcveighan's up doing. Okay, let's bang out a little mail

1037
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: bag at John middlecoff is the instagram at John Middlecoff

1038
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: is the instagram Firing your boys, d M to give

1039
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: you a question answer here on the show. Very easy

1040
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: to do. Let's stall. Let's start with Paul Love the

1041
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: pot listening since last season. I'm typing this after the

1042
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 1: Lions defeated the Packers at Lambeau. Disappointed we missed the playoffs,

1043
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: but I'm hopeful. What do you think Dan Campbell? What

1044
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: do you think of Dan Campbell as a coach? There's

1045
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: a Lions fan. Will he be in Detroit for the

1046
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: long run? What does this season mean for the Lions

1047
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: going forward? First and foremost, their team is talented. They

1048
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: have good players offensive line, Legit st Brown, very good receiver,

1049
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams kid can fly. Running backs really good Aidan Hutchinson.

1050
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: I'd buy stock. They have a top ten pick. They

1051
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: also have their pick, which because they missed the playoffs.

1052
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't I haven't seen the draft order in the teens,

1053
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: but I guess it's seventeen eighteen somewhere in there. So

1054
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: they got two picks in the top twenty. They're they're

1055
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: going to be I mean, they're gonna keep loading up. Uh.

1056
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: Jared Goff makes million dollars. If he's gonna throw for

1057
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: twenty nine touchdowns and seven picks, like that's gonna be

1058
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: one of the better deals in the league. So I

1059
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: would be very, very bullish on your squad. Now, the coach,

1060
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: like Dan Campbell is good. Clearly he's a good motivator.

1061
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: I would put him in the long way to go.

1062
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: But he's kind of got like Tomlin vibes. People just

1063
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: like the guy. People just like the guy. He resonates

1064
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: with the players. Now, from a scheme perspective, he's very

1065
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: dependent on his coordinators and Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator

1066
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: who did a really good job the second half of

1067
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: the season, and his offensive coordinator Ben Johnson. You know

1068
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna these guys are gonna interview for head coaching jobs,

1069
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: assuming he keeps both those two guys. I'll tell you this,

1070
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm picking the Lions to win that division in two

1071
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: thousand three. I'm gonna pick the Lions to win that division,

1072
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: assuming I like their draft picks. Uh so yeah, I

1073
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: would be pretty excited. Now, if you lose the offensive coordinator,

1074
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: you'd have to tell me who it's uh, who it's

1075
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: gonna be? The Herd Raider fan, what are your thoughts

1076
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: on Car as a person from your days with him

1077
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: at Fresno He was never set up to success for

1078
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: success with the Raiders, and I'll be rooting for him

1079
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: hard as at his next stop. Also, McDaniels blows ass.

1080
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: This fan base deserves better. Well, as a human being,

1081
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: Derek carrs as high level as against great person, very

1082
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: very good person, loves football, teammates like him, gets along

1083
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: with people. So from a character standpoint, he checks all

1084
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: the boxes. From a play standpoint, I think his career

1085
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: has been a little up and down because physically, I

1086
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: remember when I got to the NFL. My first year

1087
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: was Kevin Cobb was supposed to be the starter, he

1088
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: got hurt and Michael Vick took over. I remember texting

1089
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: people back at Fresno State. I'm like, Derek's way more

1090
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: talented than this guy. Derek is a very good athlete

1091
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: with a very good arm. But he doesn't always play

1092
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: like that at and clearly as he's gotten older, he

1093
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: doesn't love getting hit. Now maybe he's never loved getting hit,

1094
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: and I mean, who does. But he's not really gonna

1095
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: sit in there and take shots. So I think if

1096
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: he will get a little bit more aggressive, he can

1097
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: hit a higher ceiling as a quarterback. Now, do you

1098
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: start hitting ceilings when you're over thirty, You know it's

1099
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: probably already been hit. So I didn't have a problem

1100
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: with him, quote unquote benching him this year because he

1101
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: was playing pretty terribly. Now part of that is a

1102
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: reflection of the head coach, because he had just played

1103
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: really good. Now we've seen him play playoff level football,

1104
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: and if you put him on a good enough team,

1105
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: you can make the playoffs with him as your starting quarterback.

1106
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: Now do I want to pay him like forty million dollars? No,

1107
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: But I like the guy and I like the player

1108
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: when he's playing kind of loose and aggressive, but sometimes

1109
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: he kind of balances this. He's almost afraid to make

1110
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: a mistake, and I don't like my quarterbacks afraid to

1111
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: make steaks. I don't like my golfer is afraid to

1112
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: make mistakes. I don't like my picture is afraid to

1113
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: make mistakes. I mean, there's a time and place for everything.

1114
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: If we're up late in the game, don't throw a

1115
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: pick right if you're leading the Masters with three holes left, like,

1116
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: just hit the middle of the green. But there's also

1117
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: a point in time when you're playing good teams, like

1118
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: you gotta push the envelope. You gotta be on the Uh.

1119
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: There's a line one's being a woos and one's being aggressive,

1120
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: and you gotta lean toward being aggressive. This is two

1121
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: thousand twenty three football. So I think whoever gets their

1122
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: hands on him is gonna have to kind of get

1123
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: that back out of him because he did not play

1124
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: like that at all this year. Why are people going crazy?

1125
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: The Texans got the second pick when Chicago doesn't need

1126
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback, so wouldn't they try to get young anyway? Well,

1127
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: you never know. I said this yesterday. Who's to say

1128
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't trade Justin Fields? The general manager and

1129
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: head coach did not acquire the guy. And while I'm

1130
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: bullish on Justin Fields, I would have drafted him number

1131
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: two three years ago or two years ago. Now, Soggy's

1132
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: lit the world on fire. Throwing the ball, and if

1133
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: you want to take Bryce Young, I don't think it's

1134
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: the craziest thing in flip justin fields and kind of

1135
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: start your franchise over. I would say everything's on the table.

1136
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: And I think the reason you go crazy is not

1137
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: because Andrew lucks not in this draft. John always not

1138
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: in this draft. But when you draft number one, you

1139
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: control the draft. And they sucked all fucking season long.

1140
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: Now I know they were competitive at the end of

1141
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: the year, but you lose all those games and then

1142
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: you win what two of the last three, two of

1143
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: the last five. I don't have to look at their schedule.

1144
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: Obviously they were. They could have beat the Cowboys, it

1145
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: could have beat the Chiefs. I mean they were competitive

1146
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: down the stretch, which you know, this is the NFL,

1147
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: this is not basketball. You're not gonna tank. But you

1148
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: were losing those games. So to win that meaningless game,

1149
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean meaningless, to lose the ability to control the draft.

1150
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: I hate that, man, I I really do. But I

1151
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: think you're being a little critical of Kirk curb Street.

1152
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: Listening to al Michael's is like talking to your girlfriend's

1153
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: grandpa after Christmas dinner. Fifty of the stuff that comes

1154
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: out of his mouth isn't relevant or doesn't make sense.

1155
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: Their their chemistry is audibly ship. But Kirk obviously knows

1156
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: the game, but Michael's doesn't help him at all and

1157
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: lets his comments float into dead air or just reply

1158
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: something irrelevant. But also there are very few casters who

1159
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: are enjoyable to listen to. You can tell who doesn't

1160
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: prep or doesn't know who's on the field, like Bucking Eigman. Listen.

1161
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: I have no problem with Kirk urb Street. I'm a

1162
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm a Herb Street fan. My issue is, I just

1163
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: feel like he doesn't really know the NFL. How could he.

1164
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: He's been a lifelong college guy. If you're if you're

1165
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: a huge college scout, if you've been a college scout

1166
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: for twenty years, you're not gonna know what the veterans

1167
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL look like. You're just not You're spending

1168
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: all your time focused on the college game. You're gonna

1169
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: know what your team looks like, but you're not gonna

1170
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,919
Speaker 1: know the NFL game. So when you are a broadcaster

1171
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: and you call college game for two decades, you know

1172
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: the players that you've seen when they were in college,

1173
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: but once they become a tenure NFL VET, you're not

1174
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: locked into what they look like. So my issue is

1175
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 1: their chemistry sucks. Al Michael's is one of the greatest

1176
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: player I play guys of all time. I know he's old,

1177
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: but like I'm sorry, Al knows the NFL, he knows

1178
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: all the coaches, he knows the vibe of the NFL.

1179
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: Herb Street just doesn't. As an Eagles fan, I cannot

1180
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: tell if we are frauds or just banged up. With

1181
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: the talent we have and now secured the bye, Are

1182
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles real contenders? Yes? I think there are two

1183
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: real contenders in the NFC. That would be the forty

1184
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: Niners and the Eagles. I don't take any of the

1185
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: other teams seriously. I did Dallas earlier in the season,

1186
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: but I've pivoted off of them. I just I don't

1187
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: like what I've seen. They obviously have not been playing

1188
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: well for a while. Dax turned the ball over unless

1189
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: they flipped the switch, which I don't know why they would.

1190
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: Um they would be the only other team if they peaked.

1191
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: They were just on Poulard's healthy. The defense is flying

1192
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: around again. They could make some noise, but they're hard

1193
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: to trust. But you're right, You're not frauds. You're just

1194
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: you're not. You're hurt. And when you lose players like

1195
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: if I took Trent Williams, Deebo Samuel and Fred Warner

1196
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: off the forty Niners, like the Niners would not be

1197
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: the same. So I take Lane Johnson, I take a

1198
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: starting corner, I take a safety, I take your quarterback.

1199
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: You know it is. That's a big deal. We all

1200
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: know a big fan. We all know the Chief's offense

1201
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: this year has been stellar, but it's defense has been

1202
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: highly underrated. Chris Jones has had a career year. Our

1203
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: rookie defensive end, Carl Loftis is thirtain sacks for rookies.

1204
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: Nick Bolton was second in combination tackles. I don't know

1205
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: what what do you mean combination tackles? Does that mean

1206
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: uh tackles that you share a tackle with and solo tackles?

1207
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: But I like Tick Bolton, He's good and uh Snead

1208
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: has become one of the most versatile and underrated corners

1209
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: in the league. Lastly, the Chiefs finished second in total

1210
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: team sacks, losing only to the Eagles. Has the Chiefs

1211
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: defense been slept on this year. Your team speed is

1212
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: vastly improved from what where it was a couple of

1213
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: years ago, and a big reason for that is Willie

1214
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: Gay and Bolton. Those two linebackers can fly. Obviously, Bolton's

1215
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: instincts are fantastic. That adds a huge element. Chris Jones,

1216
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: I would say I would probably vote him third, potentially second.

1217
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: Like Nick Bosa, him and MIKEA. Parkson's have been the

1218
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: three best defensive players in the league. So any time

1219
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: that you have a game wrecker, especially an inside game wrecker,

1220
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: we've seen it with Aaron Donald like Chris Jones is

1221
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: the best defensive tackle in the league right now, big deal.

1222
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: I like Justin Reid a lot. Uh to me, Yeah,

1223
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: I'd feel pretty good. If I'm a Chiefs fan, I

1224
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: plan on winning the FC man, that would be my mindset.

1225
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: Do you know what I think the Chiefs get a

1226
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: little screwed? Is I think Buffalo is the best indoor

1227
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: team in the league. The Chiefs used to be, but

1228
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: losing Tyreek kill your your offense isn't quite as explosive

1229
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: down the field though the kid you traded for from

1230
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 1: the Giants. Actually, you know, it's pretty intriguing against the Raiders,

1231
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: and now the Raiders defense is terrible, But I would

1232
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: rather if I was the Chiefs play the Bills instead

1233
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: of some neutral site, which sure feels like it's gonna

1234
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: be an indoor arena like they went to the Colts.

1235
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: The Colts couldn't do it because, uh, there's a concert

1236
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: there or something. Maybe they end up in Vegas, who knows.

1237
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: Like I think they're gonna end up indoors. To me,

1238
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: Casey and Buffalo, they play outdoors, that game should be outdoors.

1239
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: If that game is indoors, advantage Buffalo. If that game

1240
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: is outdoors, advantage Chiefs, or like I'll bet on you

1241
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: to win it. I'm not saying you will. I mean

1242
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: the Bills can beat you, obviously they have before, but

1243
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: I would want that game to be outside. Longtime listener

1244
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: of the Pod, Now that the Bears have the number

1245
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: one pick, what do you think they'll do? Do you

1246
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: think they'll draft Will Anderson, Jalen Carter or trade back?

1247
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: Would love to know your thoughts on the Bears are

1248
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: gonna do. I honestly think I'm not saying it's on

1249
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: the table, but I think they're will be a meeting

1250
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: over this next month about the quarterback situation. Now, obviously

1251
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: they talk about Justin Fields all season long, but like,

1252
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: legitimately sit down, maybe over the next couple of weeks,

1253
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: would this be something we'd entertained because if me and

1254
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: you ran the Bears, how do we not sit down

1255
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: and have that conversation. Now, maybe you come to the

1256
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: conclusion you'd rather have Justin Fields than Bryce Young, But

1257
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: Justin Fields still has a lot of value. He's got

1258
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: two years left before you got, you know, then the

1259
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: fifth year option, so he's still relatively cheap. He wasn't

1260
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: a top ten picks, so his contracts not even that

1261
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: expensive to begin with. That you could trade him for

1262
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: a first round pick. You don't think Washington would trade

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Speaker 1: their first round pick for Justin Fields. You don't think

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Speaker 1: the Colts would entertain that. So I just think that

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Speaker 1: or maybe following years one and a couple of two,

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Speaker 1: who knows, but you could get something for him if

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Speaker 1: you really love Bryce Young. I think that's the number

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Speaker 1: one conversation you have to have. And if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep him, then you trade back, and you made a

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Speaker 1: bad decision. You traded your second round pick for Chase

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Speaker 1: Claypool let's pick thirty two. That is a massive win

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens. That is a massive win for the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: So the Ravens, I mean, that's just or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. The Steelers have the thirty second overall pick

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Speaker 1: for Chase Claypool. That that was. That was a bad

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Speaker 1: trade that there really was. It was. It was kind

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Speaker 1: of a crazy trade. At the time. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: of the Ravens because the Bears traded roke On Smith

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Speaker 1: to the Ravens, and I think everyone thought when that

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Speaker 1: trade happened that it was the Ravens pick that they

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Speaker 1: traded for Chase Claypool, But that wasn't the case. I've

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Speaker 1: been listening to you since the Sumber Your show got

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01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: me through, uh the scrubbing I was doing during my

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Speaker 1: sales internship been there, bro internship is tough, but where

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Speaker 1: we all start started at the bottom. Now we're here

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Speaker 1: anyway from Kansas City and a big Chief fan at times,

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Speaker 1: I watched the team and think we are far above

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Speaker 1: every other team in the league right now. But the

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Speaker 1: last few weeks, excluding the Raider game, we have let's

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Speaker 1: look suspect this was considered day rebuilding year and obviously,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Andy have killed it. What do you expect

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Speaker 1: out of the Chiefs in the playoffs as we look

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01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: toward free agency? Also, if you ever or in Casey

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Speaker 1: let me know, I would love to give you some

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Speaker 1: BBQ recommendations. Thanks, and keep crushing it on the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. It's crazy how the Chiefs went from

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Speaker 1: a rebuilding year to easily winning the a f C

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Speaker 1: West and having the number one overall seed. Uh. I

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Speaker 1: would say that you get an easy built in revenge factor. Right,

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01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna get to play you know, you get the buy.

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Speaker 1: Assuming the Chargers win, that game will be hard. The

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01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: Chargers have played the Chiefs very, very close, and Justin

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01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: Herbert has had a lot of success against the Chief's defense.

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Speaker 1: That game, that's a fantastic football game. Now, I cannot

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Speaker 1: pick the Chargers in good conscious strictly because who is

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01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: taking Brandon Staley over Andy Reid in a big game.

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01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: But Justin Herbert throws three or four touchdowns, Mahomes has

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01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: an off day, you could lose, and then you were

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01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: gonna play the Bengals are the Bills, and to me,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty easy. They both beat you this year and

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01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: the Bengals ruined your season last year, and obviously the

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Speaker 1: Bills beat you this year and one of the better

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Speaker 1: regular season games of the year, not necessarily from the

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Speaker 1: eye test, but just one of the biggest regular season

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Speaker 1: games of the season. But the Bill has got a

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Speaker 1: lot to play for two and who knows, maybe they

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Speaker 1: got this situation is just team of destiny, And honestly,

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Speaker 1: it kind of felt like that when they returned the

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Speaker 1: first kickoff to the house. So yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I think at minimum you should be in the a

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Speaker 1: f C Championship game, and I don't think it's inconceivable

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Speaker 1: that you win the whole thing. Because if you win

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Speaker 1: the a f C, like you play the Niners. I

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Speaker 1: watched that game. You beat him by twenty. Now, let's

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Speaker 1: say the Diners have a better game plan this year.

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Speaker 1: You're still gonna be favorite in that game. You don't

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna be favorite against the Eagles. I like

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Speaker 1: Andy and Mahomes against Sirianni and Jalen, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: that much. So the key is just winning the f C,

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Speaker 1: which is very, very difficult because you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: beat more than likely Herbert and then bur or Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: That is a lot more difficult than like what Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shannon has to do. He's gotta beat Gino Cousins and

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Speaker 1: then a banged up hurts you know, or Dak The

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Speaker 1: FC is hard, it is, okay. Last question question for

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Speaker 1: the PO I've been watching old NFL games on YouTube

1337
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Speaker 1: eighties and nineties and was wondering why the bell Cow

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Speaker 1: running backs have gone away. It's not like they didn't

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Speaker 1: understand that someone needed a breather back then. Is it

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Speaker 1: a shift in football culture? I just think it's a

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Speaker 1: shift in the way the game was played. So when

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Speaker 1: you watch the eighties or the nineties, a lot of

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Speaker 1: these teams had start running backs. Well, the college football

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Speaker 1: was giving the league a lot more star running backs.

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Speaker 1: How many start running backs have coming to college football

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Speaker 1: the last several years, Kwan Bruce Hall. I guess, Dalvin Cook,

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Speaker 1: you know, not that many. It's not like there's four

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's coming in the league a year when I

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Speaker 1: was a kid. And part of it, it's the way

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Speaker 1: the college football teams play. Look at Alabama, they spread

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Speaker 1: it out and throw it. Usc spread it out and

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Speaker 1: throw it. Oklahoma spread it out and throw it Uh,

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Speaker 1: Clemson spread it out and throw it. Hell, even Georgia

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01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: they want to throw the ball. So these teams, the

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Speaker 1: way the game is played is throwing the football. L

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Speaker 1: s U S championship team, who are their two best players?

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Speaker 1: Two wide receivers in a quarterback So look at Ohio

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01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: State quarterback wide receivers. I think it's more a reflection

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Speaker 1: on college football than the NFL. If there were three

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Speaker 1: four se Kwan Barklays every year, Bijean Robinson is gonna

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Speaker 1: be in this draft. He's gonna be a first round pick.

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Speaker 1: If there were four Bijon Robinson's in this draft, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: there'd be more bell Cow running backs. Just simply, college

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Speaker 1: football has become much more of a passing game, and

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Speaker 1: the NFL has no problem. A lot of good teams

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Speaker 1: run the ball right. Eagles run the ball, Niners run

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Speaker 1: the ball. The Bengals will run the ball. The Bills,

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Speaker 1: in theory would love to run the ball. They's done

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Speaker 1: very good run backs. And he won't really Uh, the

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Speaker 1: Chargers don't really have one. The Ravens will run the ball.

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Speaker 1: The Giants want to run the ball, you know. The

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Speaker 1: Vikings will run the ball. With Dalvin and Madison. So

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Speaker 1: these teams, the Cowboys, you know, we'll run the ball

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Speaker 1: with their running backs. It's just about the talent coming

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Speaker 1: in the league. Like, why do the Cowboys run the ball? Well,

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Speaker 1: they had Zeke and Pollard. You know, why do the

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Speaker 1: Niners run the ball? Well, they got Christian McCaffrey and

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01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and Elijah Mitchell. The Giants say, Kwan Barkley, like,

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Speaker 1: if you get sweet Derrick Henry, you will slam the

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Speaker 1: ball if you get the players. But the reason we

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Speaker 1: throw so much in the NFL is most teams have

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Speaker 1: receivers and quarterbacks. You know. I I simply believe it's

1383
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: the supply demand. And right now, the supply coming from

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Speaker 1: college football is much more pass happy. Right You're not

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Speaker 1: getting like, oh, you want to draft the run stuffing

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Now who do you end up drafting pass rushers? Why?

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01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: They're way more pass rushers in college football because you

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01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: have to develop pass rushers to compete, you know, during Saturdays,

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Speaker 1: because most teams you're playing are throwing the ball. Well,

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: the way to impact the passing game on defense is

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01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: to get after the quarterback. So I think it's much

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Speaker 1: more of a reflection of college football and the way

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01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: the game schematically is played than the way like some

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01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,440
Speaker 1: of these guys are running back now. Might be a linebacker.

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01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: That guy would have been a running back twenty years ago.

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Speaker 1: I haven't really thought that one out, but that that

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Speaker 1: would be my my initial take. Thanks for listening. Keep

1398
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Speaker 1: sending me those d m s at John Middlecoff the

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Speaker 1: volume