1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg to Washington, d C, 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg twelve hundred to San Francisco, Bloomberg 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: nine to the country's general one and around the globe 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Radio Plus Appen Bloomberg dot Com. This is 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: taking Stock. Coming up on taking stock stagnation in Europe. 6 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Will the European Union allow bond holders to take a 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: hit if banks go under? We'll find out more. Also, 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: a look at the Federal Reserve and their interest rate policy. 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: Coming up with Marvin Lowe, global market strategist for b 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: n Y Melon. Right now, let's go to Charlie Pellett 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: and the Bloomberg news room for a Bloomberg Business Flash, 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: and I thank you, Pim Fox from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pellett. Stocks are advancing on this Wednesday, the DAL, 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: the SMP NEZDAC all climbing right now, the SMP five 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: hundred index up ten points, a gain there of five 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: tenths of one percent. An Heeuser Busch InBev has won 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: government anti trust approval for its takeover of s A. B. 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: Miller after the maker of Budweiser agreed to give up 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: ownership of the Miller brand and open the door to 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: greater competition from craft beers. Stocks are advancing. We're seeing 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: records as quarterly numbers out of Microsoft and Morgan Stanley 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: spur optimism that corporate earnings can support further gains. Morgan 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Stanley posted profit that beat analysts estimates, as the firm 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: report of a surprise gain in bond trading revenue and 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: compensation costs that were lower than expected. David Campbell Bacon 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: Campbell covers Banks for Bloomberg News Look year over year 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: revenue at Morgan Stanley declined for the third out of 28 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: the last four quarters. So the industry still has a 29 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: revenue problem, there's no question about that. And obviously with 30 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: the trading results, we always talk about how sustainable they 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 1: are from one quarter to the next. Uh, this doesn't 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: really give us any more insight into this. And right 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: now we do have shares of Morgan Stanley trading higher 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: by one point four percent. United Condental Holdings flying higher 35 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: as well today, at the highest value in almost three months. 36 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: After CEO Oscar Munio said he is reviewing all aspects 37 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: of the airline's operations in an effort to boost profitability. 38 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: Gold Is lawer by one point one percent, down fourteen 39 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: fifty ounce. The thirteen seventeen crude oil West Texas Intermediate 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Crude up five tenths of one percent. Crude oil now 41 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: up by twenty cents forty four eight five a barrel 42 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: again recapping the SMP five index up ten to seventy four, 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: a gain of point five percent to thirty two on 44 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Wall Street. Now, the other story is making news. Thank you, 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: Charlie from the Bloomberg News room. I'm Rami in a 46 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: cent cio. It's day three of the Republican National Convention. 47 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: ABC News spoke with Eric Trump, who says it's been 48 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: an incredible journey to watch his father become the numbinee 49 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: for president. When he becomes passionate about something, he sets 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: his mind to it and he does it. And you 51 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: see that as you sit in this arena, I mean, 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: this incredible arena, with this incredible passion, and I'm proud 53 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: of him. I mean, I'm just proud of the man. 54 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: He's done such an unbelievable job. Eric Trump will speak 55 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: tonight at the convention along with Donald Trump's running mate 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: Mike Pence and Texas Senator Ted Cruz. The people of 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: Baton Rouge, Louisiana are remembering their three slain police officers. 58 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: Residents turned out at makeshift memorials, churches and rallies, with 59 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: some faith and community leaders gathering to discuss ways to 60 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: improve police relations with black residents. The officers were fatally 61 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: shot by a former marine on Sunday morning. Three others 62 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: were wounded. The parents of the University of California student 63 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: killed the niece France or speaking out, Conrad Leslie says 64 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: at first he and his wife thought Nicholas survived the attack. 65 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: As soon as we landed in Paris, we found our phones, 66 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: thinking that we're going to get into good news, but 67 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: instead we had a voicemail and it said we had 68 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: some new fingers on and unfortunately, uh, they said it 69 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: was bad news. Officials say five people remain in custody 70 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: for possible links to the attack, and the search is 71 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: underway for four suspects were fired shots at NYPD officers 72 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: last night. Police say the four drove past the officers 73 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: and shot them as they were walking in Brooklyn, and 74 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: then fled the scene. Global News twenty four hours a day, 75 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: powered by more than journalists and analysts in more than 76 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: one under twenty countries. I'm Ramie in Essensio. This is Bloomberg, Charlie, 77 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: and we thank you and again recapping stocks are advancing, 78 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: the SMP five indecks climbing to a record up ten 79 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: points now seventy three. That is a gain of five 80 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: tenths of one percent. I'm Charlie Pellet and that's a 81 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg business flash. This is taking stock the Fed in 82 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: focus on Bloomberg Radio, the Fed in focus. The Federal Reserve? 83 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: Is it on hold for rate hikes because of the 84 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: political season? Let's find out more from Arevin Low, Global 85 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: market strategist b n Y Melon and joining us now, Marvin, 86 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: thank you very much for being with us. Well, thank 87 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: you very much for having me again, Pim Marvin. Do 88 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: you think that the Federal Reserve is going to do 89 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: nothing because we are in the thick of the election cycle? 90 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: You know what, I personally do think that they are 91 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: on hold. I think in addition to the election cycle, 92 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: we still have the potential fallout from Brexit, which, while 93 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: you know everyone's being pretty sanguine about it, UM still 94 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: has a lot of questions that need to be answered. 95 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: So what would those questions be that would satisfy you? Well, um, 96 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, the process itself is so unique, um that 97 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: we really don't have a lot of history to kind 98 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: of base it on. Um. I guess I would lean 99 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: towards the IMF report, the report that the IMF put 100 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: out earlier this week which lowered global growth. So that's 101 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: certainly a big question, and whether or not there's additional 102 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: knock on effects with regard to either tightening credit conditions 103 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: throughout Europe or um embolding potential other populous movements which 104 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: you know certainly have a basis not only UH in 105 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: the UK, but around Europe and possibly even here. Well, 106 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to play to your title as the global 107 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: market strategies for just a minute, because you mentioned the 108 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: International Monetary Fund, and they came out with report that 109 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: suggests that Italy's economy will remain stagnant for the next 110 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 1: get this, twenty years. It is the euro Zone's third 111 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: largest economy. Will what happens in Italy affect the United States? 112 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: You know, what happens in Italy certainly affects the Eurozone, 113 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: and what happens in the Eurozone we've seen from either 114 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: a reach perspective or a UM risk taking appetitles in 115 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: the financial markets certainly has an impact here. Also, central 116 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: banks have been successful in calming nerves in the past, 117 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: and I think that's um the point in the cycle 118 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: that we're at now. But without really addressing those problems yesterday. 119 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: They will affect um, the US, they will affect the FED. 120 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: Thought we are a citizen of the world. In that case, 121 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: will we catch some of that helicopter money if Mario 122 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: drag starts dropping it from the skies? Well, um, at 123 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: this point, you know, helicopter money discussion really is more 124 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: focused on Japan. I don't think the ECB has taken 125 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: a a very strong stance in going that way. But 126 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: the trend of lower yields amongst the other central banks 127 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: will have their impact on the U S yield curve. 128 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: And while we've seen yield rise over the last couple 129 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: of weeks, you know, they still are significantly lower since Brexit, 130 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: and expectations are that um, you know, the Bank of England, UH, 131 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: the e c B and the Bank of Japan are 132 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: possibly moving towards the next stage of monetary accommodation. If 133 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: they do move to this next stage of monetary accommodation. 134 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: What does that do to U S interest rates? UM. 135 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's an interesting time right now because 136 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: at the same time that I'm having this conversation with you, 137 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: there's certainly a lot of discussion about whether or not 138 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: the FED is going to try to hype rates again 139 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: this year. You know, we've seen the odds of a 140 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: rate hike UM increase significantly over the past few weeks 141 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: and never been some pretty high profile stories in the 142 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: press about the FED ready to move again. UM. Kind 143 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: of trying to put all of that together. While the 144 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: FED UM, you know, certainly wants to increase rates to 145 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: UM put additional bullets within within their arsenal, our yield 146 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: curve is certainly influenced by a lot of these other 147 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: yield curves. So the last time I was on your program, 148 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: I really thought that we were in a period where 149 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: should expect kind of this range bound or lower yield 150 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: type environment. UM. Even though we have backed up, we 151 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: still remain relatively low by historical standards, if not at 152 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: all time low still around the world. And I'll stand 153 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: by that thingment. I think that we need to deal 154 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: and and get used to this lower yield environment. Well, 155 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: I'll just give you the details. Right, the ten uere 156 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: right now trades at one point five seven. It is 157 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: down seven thirty seconds today. Also, the thirty year bond 158 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: is selling off down seconds, a decline of a little 159 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: bit more than half a percent, trading at two point 160 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: to nine. All Right, As a global market strategist, what 161 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: do you recommend people do with their money? Well, again, um, 162 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, it really is a function of tempering expectations. 163 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: And we kind of had a little bit of this discussion, 164 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: um the last time I was there. You know, really 165 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: understanding that risk is part of the equation, That of 166 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: volatility is probably something that we need to get used to. 167 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: And finding the part of the market that makes sense 168 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: for your risk tolerance. Generating the type of returns that 169 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: you had from the fixed income market is going to 170 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: be challenging. Uh. It certainly requires one to look at 171 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: um non sovereign um types of fixed income investments if 172 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: you're looking for that type of that type of return. 173 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: You know, we've seen really strong returns within the high 174 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: yield world. Uh, the investment grades space within the US 175 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: and it's you know, for USD investors that kind of 176 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: makes UM the currency aspect a little bit easier, continues 177 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: to offer spread to to that treasury market, and it 178 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: continues to post positive returns in there. So it's that 179 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: type of thinking that I believe UM investors need to 180 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: to do rather than just simply looking at the government 181 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: bond market. So do people have to get used to 182 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: relative returns as opposed to absolute returns to a certain extent, 183 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: to a certain extent, to a certain extent, and you 184 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: know that certainly comes into your retirement planning process and 185 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: everything else that goes along with it. UM. When you 186 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: do have these sovereign yields anchored at these either very 187 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: low and or negative levels around the world, a relative 188 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: return is something that UM you have to take into consideration. 189 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for spending time with us and 190 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: giving us your thoughts. Marvin Lowe is global market strategist 191 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: for b N Y Melan and they can be followed 192 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter at b N Y Melan. You're listening to 193 00:10:51,400 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: taking Stockheim, pim Fox, and this is Bloomberg. 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