Speaker 1: Hanging with the fast, betting on the game. No moment's gonna.
Speaker 2: Tell us.
Speaker 1: Not be We're here just drinking beer, making baby, I'm
Speaker 1: hanging with the feelers, busting with the boys.
Speaker 3: Bro there it is all right, let's hit it.
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to are we rolling ladies?
Speaker 2: John?
Speaker 4: Welcome to Episode two, one hundred and fifty of Busting
Speaker 4: with the Boys. We comms every single day just getting
Speaker 4: better and better for you people, and I like to
Speaker 4: I like to think that we've grown a lot too.
Speaker 3: We have a great show for you today.
Speaker 4: A lot of chaos, a lot of chaos in the
Speaker 4: college football landscape, and there's one team at the forefront
Speaker 4: of all that. Especially as we get into the late
Speaker 4: part of the season, we're looking at the college football playoff.
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen there?
Speaker 4: Also Texas A and M Jimbo Fisher secured the bag,
Speaker 4: dropped the ball, decided to get the out it believe that,
Speaker 4: decided to get the heck out of there.
Speaker 3: And also the NFL season.
Speaker 4: Week ten of the NFL season was incredible, had an
Speaker 4: amazing time, points flying everywhere. J Stroud once again, yeah,
Speaker 4: once again gets it done. Lions handling business. Cleveland wins
Speaker 4: a nail bider.
Speaker 3: CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud, like you just said, runs the ball, gets the
Speaker 4: ball all the way down the field to hit a
Speaker 4: game winning field goal after Tyler Boyd dropped a touchdown
Speaker 4: pass to go up by.
Speaker 5: Formerly question, can all four teams in the FC North
Speaker 5: make the playoffs?
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Speaker 4: That was a quick little intro for you guys. We
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Speaker 5: Oh and also also uh uh Steve O Steve O
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Speaker 4: Of mine but another hero of this bus. And to
Speaker 4: a lot of people down in San Francisco, we have uh,
Speaker 4: the legendary the almighty, a record setting record holding individual
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey on the show today.
Speaker 3: Let's get right into it. Wait, he didn't set a record.
Speaker 4: I thought he set the record and then he and
Speaker 4: then the record's done.
Speaker 3: Now no, no, he didn't set the record. He let
Speaker 3: let the record.
Speaker 5: He let the entire country down, all of white culture
Speaker 5: writing on his shoulders, and let's get this record. Let's
Speaker 5: get in the record books. Not only did he let
Speaker 5: the record books down, but he also let the bus
Speaker 5: with the boys.
Speaker 4: Okay, so with that being said, let's get into the
Speaker 4: dude wife shittiest moment of the week for Christian McCaffrey. Christian,
Speaker 4: I thought you handle your press conference incredible, brother.
Speaker 3: Everybody scored but me.
Speaker 4: I suck a very good rabbit from eight mile situation. Brother,
Speaker 4: But there gotta be some pain in there. And obviously,
Speaker 4: dude wipes, which is the segment, because this is the
Speaker 4: shitty moment, go and use this.
Speaker 3: Do you use dude wipes? Well, now, yeah, you absolutely
Speaker 3: should wipe.
Speaker 4: You absolutely should you seem like a healthy individual that
Speaker 4: the white little wet stuff is good for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The only hassle would be just carrying them to the stall. No,
Speaker 7: like having to actually take them there, but worth it,
Speaker 7: I'd say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're coming out with ones that just attached
Speaker 4: to your skin, so you have like a whole pack
Speaker 4: just waiting on your side at all times. They're in
Speaker 4: the they're working that through right now. But okay, let's
Speaker 4: talk about yesterday's game dominant performance by the forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: Everyone is literally saying, here we go, Christian McCaffrey again,
Speaker 4: first drive, probably gonna get a touchdown and it ends
Speaker 4: up not happening for you. At what point did you
Speaker 4: start to worry?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: One?
Speaker 5: Then how piss off were you after that ass open
Speaker 5: in the locker room that you didn't want to talk
Speaker 5: to anybody because you did not get the record?
Speaker 3: Hey congra, Yeah yeah, yeah, walk us through.
Speaker 7: I tied the record, so technically, you know, it's not
Speaker 7: like I'm two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're tied for one. You're yeah, you know how
Speaker 3: that is?
Speaker 5: Though you want that standalone name like I'm sure leading.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it's it's funny because honestly, I thought
Speaker 7: I was going to be more upset than I was.
Speaker 6: But I think when you.
Speaker 7: Win like that, and it was good to kind of
Speaker 7: get the run game going again against a good run
Speaker 7: defense too that had the stats to prove it.
Speaker 6: So I was I was pretty excited after the game.
Speaker 7: I thought I was gonna be way more like pissed
Speaker 7: off than I was.
Speaker 6: But I really wasn't that mad at all other than
Speaker 6: letting Will down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you did, you had, you had a hell
Speaker 5: of a performance and I know, like you guys would
Speaker 5: drop three.
Speaker 3: We'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker 5: So it was a big bounce back week for the boys,
Speaker 5: getting healthy in the bye week and everything else. So
Speaker 5: and on top of that, I'm sure there was some
Speaker 5: creativity of you know, hey, let's get see them seeing
Speaker 5: the end zone, like let's get the record. But you're
Speaker 5: not gonna put that above Like obviously whooping a team's
Speaker 5: asses that happened, it doesn't happen. But uh yeah, there's
Speaker 5: probably a little bit of that, damn. Because there was
Speaker 5: one where you guys were in the red zone right
Speaker 5: and you caught a screen was it a screen?
Speaker 3: You caught something.
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, let's get busy, let's get in there,
Speaker 5: and you and you almost broke one. Maybe it was
Speaker 5: just a simple running play, but you almost got out
Speaker 5: and got tripped.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn it, that was gonna be it, dude.
Speaker 7: That's what hurts is that what hurts is that there
Speaker 7: wasn't there was a couple plays that you just wanted
Speaker 7: back that it was like, damn, if I had just
Speaker 7: done this, that was the play, and it wasn't that.
Speaker 7: You know, the last drive where they were trying to
Speaker 7: feed me and tried it. By the way, that's pretty
Speaker 7: pretty cool that you know you're in a game like
Speaker 7: that and your coaches are trying to get you that Like,
Speaker 7: I don't know. That goes a long way for me,
Speaker 7: so I'm I'm I appreciated that. But it was in
Speaker 7: like the second quarter and first quarter where you're like, god, dude,
Speaker 7: if I just didn't do this, that was it. We
Speaker 7: could have got it out of the way, and I didn't.
Speaker 7: When you look back on the tape, that's that's what hurts.
Speaker 7: It'd be one thing if there was like there just
Speaker 7: really wasn't a lot of opportunities. But there was, and
Speaker 7: I think that's what stings.
Speaker 4: Especially getting Trent Williams back and being like, okay, yo,
Speaker 4: we're really moving at full force. Now I got the
Speaker 4: big dog at left tackle. Now what did Shanahan say
Speaker 4: to you after the game, because there.
Speaker 3: Was like a boys, we did it. We got the.
Speaker 4: Monkey off our back. We won after losing three. Let's
Speaker 4: go have a day. Boys have a day. And there
Speaker 4: had to be like a calming. You just get it
Speaker 4: out of the shower. You probably got the towel on.
Speaker 4: You're looking in at your stuff, probably having a moment
Speaker 4: of being like damn. And I'm sure Shanahan comes up
Speaker 4: to you, what does he say to you?
Speaker 7: And actually, like when he addressed the team, it was
Speaker 7: funny because he called Juice out.
Speaker 6: Juice had caught that touchdown.
Speaker 7: We ran like a keeper and Juice has you know,
Speaker 7: I think he's he's the second to last read and
Speaker 7: no one covered him and broke through a dot like
Speaker 7: a thirty five yard touchdown passed to him and he
Speaker 7: caught it.
Speaker 6: Juice caught it at the one and scored.
Speaker 7: And uh so everyone was just making fun of Juice's
Speaker 7: selfishness of.
Speaker 6: Not meaning it at the one.
Speaker 3: Get the boy in.
Speaker 7: There's people, there's people on the internet who are like,
Speaker 7: I've made a joke about it, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 7: since when did you care about Like so I'm like, obviously,
Speaker 7: I want a juice or I'm joking, But now that
Speaker 7: that was just funny, we all just started making fun
Speaker 7: of juice instead.
Speaker 6: And how selfish he is as a as a teammate.
Speaker 3: Player, that's amazing. Never so bad about scoring six.
Speaker 4: And the time that I know you bring up you
Speaker 4: bring up somebody who said brock Party through at dime.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've heard some news reports, but
Speaker 4: there are people saying brock Party is not the guy.
Speaker 3: Do you think this was a yah?
Speaker 7: I heard that from an anonymous source. Y. I didn't
Speaker 7: really hear that from you know, a relevant source.
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that okay. I see what you did there, and
Speaker 4: that's understandable. What what about this game? Are you able
Speaker 4: to say to those people that said that not your boys?
Speaker 4: They're just giving.
Speaker 3: Out the message. Wow, that's like an FU. So you
Speaker 3: see what he did today?
Speaker 6: Well, first off, I mean, can we address it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oro, that's we're boys. Yeah, they're boys with the boys.
Speaker 5: If you got to hold some boys accountable, go ahead
Speaker 5: and do that. You have the floor, Taylor, Yes.
Speaker 6: Sir, anonymous reporting dog.
Speaker 5: I God, I swear to god, it's not my opinion.
Speaker 5: That's what he's saying. He's saying anonymous reporting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Will knows who my sources is this TMZ dog.
Speaker 3: This is dude. Do listen, I had.
Speaker 7: This last game. I mean you can you can see
Speaker 7: what rock Pertty's done. But you I mean look at
Speaker 7: the last you know we're talking. Since he's gotten in
Speaker 7: the in the ball game.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree.
Speaker 7: Guy, he's been a stud. He's been bawling right, and
Speaker 7: I don't know all the stats, but he's got the
Speaker 7: stats to to show it. The qb are, the completion percentage,
Speaker 7: the completion under pressure.
Speaker 6: All that guy's done nothing but ball out.
Speaker 4: Right right, And listen, if you look back being the
Speaker 4: avid fan of busting with the boys that you are,
Speaker 4: back in January February March, I talked about this anonymous source.
Speaker 4: You remember that, correct, You remember talking? You know who
Speaker 4: the anonymous source? Everybody to lean on friends. I literally
Speaker 4: said this back in March, and then I left it alone.
Speaker 4: I let it ride, and then after the three games happened,
Speaker 4: Brock did have a couple of tough two minute drills
Speaker 4: where there were some open guys. He kind of throws
Speaker 4: it in the safety's belly where I go to bring
Speaker 4: back up my anonymous source said this, and he also
Speaker 4: doubled down in a text after your second the second loss,
Speaker 4: not the third one.
Speaker 7: To me, that's it's too easy. It's too easy to
Speaker 7: just wait. I mean you had to wait a long
Speaker 7: time to drop that. I mean, Brox played how many
Speaker 7: games in phenomenal It's too easy to wait till like
Speaker 7: maybe first off is always more that goes into it,
Speaker 7: Like I know for me, there's been times where I
Speaker 7: might have been off on the timing that leads to
Speaker 7: a pick where like guy's not in the right spot
Speaker 7: leads big and Brock's always going to put it on
Speaker 7: his shoulder, this kind of guy he is. But it's
Speaker 7: just too easy to wait till someone fails to be
Speaker 7: like not I told you so, anonymous source told you.
Speaker 4: So right because I'm I'm a supporter of the forty
Speaker 4: nine ers. How many times have I not told you?
Speaker 3: Have I not told Kim? Have not been Fred Warner.
Speaker 4: That you guys have the best locker room in all
Speaker 4: of the NFL. And I wish I was able to
Speaker 4: play for a team like the forty nine ers like that.
Speaker 4: We had a great locker room at the Titans. But
Speaker 4: I have given you guys so many flowers, and I
Speaker 4: can see and I'm happy I was able to give
Speaker 4: you guys that bulletin board material to go play the Jags,
Speaker 4: and I feel like I was a part of that win.
Speaker 4: And I do understand where you're coming from. However, I
Speaker 4: have to lean back on the fact that it truly
Speaker 4: was an anonymous source and because of he wasn't playing
Speaker 4: great and he texted me and said, see now there's
Speaker 4: a big enough sample size where you can beat rock Perty.
Speaker 4: That was like, all right, I guess this is where
Speaker 4: I go and tell this is what I was told.
Speaker 4: But but I see where you're coming from. Brother, I
Speaker 4: see it.
Speaker 3: I understand it because as.
Speaker 6: Long as you see, as long as you see where
Speaker 6: I'm coming.
Speaker 4: If I was in your shoes, i'd be doing the
Speaker 4: same thing. And I think you've handled this well too.
Speaker 4: Of essentially telling me fuck you without saying fuck you,
Speaker 4: I think that was that was great, go niers.
Speaker 3: Am I right hey. I'll tell you what though.
Speaker 5: What I love to see is uh, when he was
Speaker 5: under duress and that pocket was collapsing on him and
Speaker 5: he did deliver a dot to George Kittle, and that
Speaker 5: is a big time throw that you get fired up
Speaker 5: for when the you know, when we allude back to
Speaker 5: the Baltimore board material and and people kind of talking about, Okay,
Speaker 5: they've dropped three is brock perty Is he not the guy?
Speaker 3: YadA YadA YadA.
Speaker 5: That was That was awesome to see because you guys
Speaker 5: did it was Uh, you guys got healthy. And what
Speaker 5: people don't understand too, is that by week was big
Speaker 5: for yourself. You've been a little banged up the last
Speaker 5: few weeks, even though you haven't been inactive like Deebo
Speaker 5: and Trimp, but you get the whole train back, the
Speaker 5: machine is back, and you guys are out there, you know,
Speaker 5: beating asset. That has to that has to feel good
Speaker 5: when that was going on yesterday at Jacksonville.
Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: I think the bye weeks are much needed, especially in
Speaker 7: the kind of that middle middle of the year because
Speaker 7: you play eight or whatever games in a row. But
Speaker 7: you also had training camp too, so it the accumulation
Speaker 7: of you know where, and tear starts to and I
Speaker 7: don't even know if it's physically because I think by
Speaker 7: the time week eight turned, you know, hits, your body's
Speaker 7: pretty callous to it.
Speaker 6: It's more just you need to get away for a
Speaker 6: little bit and rest. So I think it was huge.
Speaker 7: I think for us, you know, it's about just keeping
Speaker 7: the foot on the gas and not slowing down, you know,
Speaker 7: even in that game. And obviously I'm always gonna say
Speaker 7: this after every week, but I think it's true, and
Speaker 7: I'm not just trying to be that guy, but I
Speaker 7: really do believe there's always things you can get better at,
Speaker 7: and there's things in that game that can make or
Speaker 7: break the momentum of the entire game. You know, that's
Speaker 7: a really good team with a really good defense who
Speaker 7: have the numbers to back it up, and it's a
Speaker 7: game for a long time. A couple of plays here
Speaker 7: and there go our way, but we can still get
Speaker 7: better and we that's really the way we have to
Speaker 7: approach it is just continuing to get better every single
Speaker 7: week and not letting the score kind of dictate the
Speaker 7: way we feel. Obviously, wins feel good, but you know,
Speaker 7: Kyle is talking about just going off with the tape.
Speaker 7: What does the tape look like? You want that tape
Speaker 7: to look good because you can win, and then you
Speaker 7: look at the tape you're like, damn, we could have
Speaker 7: been a lot better, and then you know, obviously you're
Speaker 7: still happy. But you know, the way you look at
Speaker 7: a win, the way you look at a loss should
Speaker 7: be similar other than the feeling you get, the emotional
Speaker 7: feeling you get when you.
Speaker 4: Win, looking at it with a critical eye. You brought
Speaker 4: up bye weeks. Now, there's always that conversation when the
Speaker 4: everyone gets all excited about what the schedule is when
Speaker 4: it goes out to the media, But players usually talk
Speaker 4: about that bye week, and a lot of times it's like, bro,
Speaker 4: we got a week four by this year.
Speaker 3: That sucks to you.
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey, what is like the best week to have
Speaker 4: a bye week for you? Is it right around the
Speaker 4: time you did or you want a little but later?
Speaker 7: I think yeah, I think eight, like right in the
Speaker 7: midway point is great. The early buy is tough, brutal,
Speaker 7: late but it's tough. But I think that that middle
Speaker 7: of the pack. Yeah, I thought our buie was at
Speaker 7: a great time, kind of perfect timing for us.
Speaker 3: What'd you do for the bye week?
Speaker 7: I went home to Denver, saw my family. Actually I
Speaker 7: won a fly fishing tournament.
Speaker 3: Oh oh man, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 7: There's only there's only three of us doing it, but
Speaker 7: I still want it's got a trophy and everything.
Speaker 4: Let's go podium, no matter what.
Speaker 6: It's all podium.
Speaker 5: Can you talk about how important it is to get
Speaker 5: away because a lot of times, like you know, I
Speaker 5: saw George I believe he went to Montana, he went
Speaker 5: to somewhere nice. I forget. A couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 5: somebody I think believe went on a bye week. And
Speaker 5: you see fans every now and then talk about, oh,
Speaker 5: why are you going on a why are you doing
Speaker 5: this on a bye week like you should be scouting,
Speaker 5: YadA YadA.
Speaker 3: Can you talk about how important.
Speaker 5: It is to get away from the facility, to get
Speaker 5: away from football from your perspective.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, there's really only one speed that you
Speaker 7: go in the NFL, and that's that's all out. It's
Speaker 7: full speed, all the time. You from you know, physically,
Speaker 7: emotionally and mentally. It's all day, every day, and your
Speaker 7: life and everyone else's life depends on it.
Speaker 6: In a life I say that not as in actual life,
Speaker 6: but you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: And because of that, you you you'll burn out. If
Speaker 7: you go that hard, three hundred and sixty five days
Speaker 7: a year, you will burn out, and you need to
Speaker 7: get away for a little bit more mentally and emotionally,
Speaker 7: just to recharge your batteries and get back.
Speaker 6: I think it's extremely critical.
Speaker 7: When I used to train when I was a younger
Speaker 7: player in the league, my first couple of years, you know,
Speaker 7: the season would end and I would I would start
Speaker 7: training pretty quickly after the season ended, and I just
Speaker 7: remember being.
Speaker 6: A little bit burnt out by.
Speaker 7: The time, like week six came around, and it wasn't
Speaker 7: like I changed it all, Like, it didn't change my process,
Speaker 7: it didn't change anything.
Speaker 6: I just felt like, damn, I've been doing.
Speaker 7: This for a long time and didn't give myself the
Speaker 7: respect that I needed to take a couple you know,
Speaker 7: more just mental breaks. You know, whether it's go get
Speaker 7: on the beach somewhere and just rejuvenate, get back so
Speaker 7: that when you do come back, you're ready to go
Speaker 7: all out again.
Speaker 6: It's really hard to.
Speaker 7: Just constantly go one hundred percent all the time for
Speaker 7: your body, for your mind, for everything.
Speaker 4: That's an interesting thing you bring up, because that is
Speaker 4: a massive conversation between football players all the time, is
Speaker 4: when do you start training in the off season during
Speaker 4: the bye week, What do you do. Something we talked
Speaker 4: about back in August is when you finally make the
Speaker 4: decision as like, all right, I'm going to take the
Speaker 4: BIE week a little lighter than I've did in years past.
Speaker 4: When did you start to work that out? And then
Speaker 4: how did you handle kind of like maybe the anxiety
Speaker 4: bug in your head being like, hey, you're not doing enough.
Speaker 4: Hey you should be. You should be working out, You
Speaker 4: shouldn't be fly fishing just dusting these two other guys
Speaker 4: in this tournament right now. Like what allowed you to
Speaker 4: kind of make peace with the fact that this is
Speaker 4: good for me to do when a lot of it's
Speaker 4: you're just so bred to be work, work, work all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's that's a great question because it's the hardest
Speaker 7: question even to this day for myself to answer, And
Speaker 7: I don't know if there's a concrete answer. It really depends.
Speaker 7: It depends on how you're feeling. It depends on kind
Speaker 7: of what you're going through body wise, Like do I
Speaker 7: need like, you know, if you're all banged up and
Speaker 7: you have some stuff lingering and going on, then you
Speaker 7: probably should stay and grind so that you can get
Speaker 7: back to normal.
Speaker 6: But if you're pretty healthy.
Speaker 7: And everything's going well, and you know that like a
Speaker 7: couple of days of rest can take care of this,
Speaker 7: then you know, I think it's important to do that.
Speaker 6: But it's really a daily evaluation.
Speaker 7: I always try to move during the bye week, like
Speaker 7: do some sort of movement, like you can't just sit
Speaker 7: there all day. But it really depends. Like for me,
Speaker 7: I just needed to rest. I needed to sleep. I
Speaker 7: felt like sleep was the biggest thing for me because
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get my treatment, I'm gonna do my workouts,
Speaker 7: but I need to sleep in.
Speaker 6: I need to go to bed early.
Speaker 7: I need to just let my body recover naturally as
Speaker 7: much as possible. And then when you get back to
Speaker 7: the week, then you get back to you know, the
Speaker 7: football schedule, but you can you can't not move, but
Speaker 7: you can.
Speaker 6: Also overdo it. So you just want to make.
Speaker 7: Sure that that Monday, when you come back, you feel like, Okay,
Speaker 7: I could have played on Sunday this week, but I didn't,
Speaker 7: and that's why I feel better than next week.
Speaker 3: I love that if we back up before the bye week.
Speaker 5: In Jacksonville, what was kind of the urgency level in
Speaker 5: the locker room around the building after dropping three?
Speaker 6: It was huge. You know that it was such.
Speaker 7: A weird taste in our mouth. I think after you
Speaker 7: lose three going into a bye week, because normally you
Speaker 7: want to go there's nothing like winning going into the buy,
Speaker 7: you feel yes, and I think that I don't want
Speaker 7: to see good and losing is never good. But I
Speaker 7: think when we came back, everyone had a sense of
Speaker 7: urgency that was, you know, we can't.
Speaker 6: This is a tough league.
Speaker 7: It's it's tough to win, it's tough to play well
Speaker 7: all the time. It's tough to beat teams in the NFL.
Speaker 7: Everyone's good, you know. I've heard people talk about our roster,
Speaker 7: and our roster is amazing. I love it. Everyone's roster
Speaker 7: is good, though. There's teams all over the place that
Speaker 7: have really good rosters, and it's about executing properly, and
Speaker 7: to do that you got to work really hard on
Speaker 7: and off the field. And so there was definitely a
Speaker 7: huge sense of urgency for our team to get back
Speaker 7: at and still is.
Speaker 6: I don't think that's changed at all.
Speaker 4: You bring up your roster and you guys during the
Speaker 4: trade deadline got an absolute stud to be on the
Speaker 4: other side of Nick Bosa. I know he's a stud
Speaker 4: I know he's going to play well for you guys.
Speaker 4: How's he fitting into the locker room? How did he
Speaker 4: come in there? And what kind of guy is Chase Young?
Speaker 6: He's been great, he's been awesome.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think you know when I know exactly
Speaker 7: what he's going through right now. And when you go
Speaker 7: into a team like this, one of the beauties of
Speaker 7: it is you know, all you have to do is
Speaker 7: be yourself.
Speaker 6: And I think he sees that and he's done that.
Speaker 7: He's fitting great, obviously, played extremely well yesterday and we're
Speaker 7: excited to have him. But now he's been a great
Speaker 7: locker room guy already and he's been himself and practice
Speaker 7: is hard, works hard, and you know, hopefully he's got
Speaker 7: a revamped sense of energy coming to our team.
Speaker 4: Dude, if you're in the NFCU West and you're a
Speaker 4: tackle and you see that trade happening, you're just like,
Speaker 4: fuck man, are we kidding?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, to deal with that shit, especially like with the
Speaker 5: Niners back end, like their defense showed up, because there's
Speaker 5: been question marks outside of their four walls about their defense,
Speaker 5: specially past defense. And now you bring in Chase Young,
Speaker 5: you got guys who you can kind of pin your
Speaker 5: ears back more with four man rushes than trying to
Speaker 5: get creative with blissing, So you get that extra guy like,
Speaker 5: I'm sure you know as much as those tackles hate it, Like,
Speaker 5: I'm sure the back seven was relieved, like, hey, we
Speaker 5: can play some more covering. No this, we can do
Speaker 5: more of that. Uh yeah, man, I think he'll do
Speaker 5: I think he'll do well out there. One question I
Speaker 5: had for you, what is Christian McCaffrey's guilty pleasure during
Speaker 5: the season? Is there a TV show? Is there something
Speaker 5: you do at the end of the week. Is it
Speaker 5: a restaurant? Is its food?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 5: What is Christian mccaffery's little guilty pleasure where he's like,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm checking out for about what are
Speaker 5: you getting naughty?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, when you get naughty.
Speaker 6: You know, I like, uh, I love.
Speaker 7: I mean, we talked about the snacks on the plane.
Speaker 7: That's something I've always looked forward to because I I'll
Speaker 7: eat you know, the cookie, I'll eat everything on that plane.
Speaker 7: I don't know if anyone else is the same as
Speaker 7: me when it comes to this, but I'm always looking
Speaker 7: for new shows and new movies, and I just watched
Speaker 7: The Office, and I it's like, I want to get
Speaker 7: into a new show, and I've seen The Office five times,
Speaker 7: but I just like it's so much easier to just
Speaker 7: throw the Office on than start a new show. And
Speaker 7: I'm not sure if anyone else is like me in that,
Speaker 7: but it's hard for me to get into a new
Speaker 7: show during the season.
Speaker 6: Or anything like that.
Speaker 7: So I my guilty pleasure would be just throwing The
Speaker 7: Office on and kind of just relaxing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like there's a level of when you
Speaker 4: start a new show, you're like, I really got to
Speaker 4: pay attention to pick up on the things, pick up
Speaker 4: on the reasons why people say, hey, you need to
Speaker 4: go watch the show. Yeah, when you put on like
Speaker 4: an Office or Parks and Recreation, those ones are just
Speaker 4: like funny, you can keep a moving if you miss
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes of it, it's not going to change the
Speaker 4: plot or anything like that.
Speaker 5: That is always a nice little deal. And also to
Speaker 5: go with that, like having to concentrate. But once you
Speaker 5: buy into a new show, there's part of you that
Speaker 5: you'll look at the clock, like if it's eight forty
Speaker 5: five and you got an hour and the next show
Speaker 5: and you're like, okay, I can probably get in bed
Speaker 5: and hopefully asleep by ten pm.
Speaker 3: But then it goes into ten thirty.
Speaker 5: It's ten thirty eight when you're checking your clock to
Speaker 5: where you're like, I knew I shouldn't have watched that
Speaker 5: one more episode. Like when you're bought in, Like when
Speaker 5: you're when you are getting pulled into that show, sucked in,
Speaker 5: like it's you almost no no boss, you almost like
Speaker 5: you start to compromise a little bit, like let me
Speaker 5: get an extra one here, Okay, I'll sleep six hours
Speaker 5: instead of seven because you want to watch that, Like
Speaker 5: they left me on a nice cliffhanger.
Speaker 3: So it's probably smart that you do that. That that
Speaker 3: is very smart.
Speaker 4: What did what did you have on the on the
Speaker 4: run back from Jacksonville?
Speaker 7: I had the Boom chick a pop by the way,
Speaker 7: shout out boom Chicka Pop.
Speaker 6: They sent a bunch of popcorn in the locker room.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, So thanks to the boys for giving me
Speaker 7: the platform.
Speaker 3: And Boom Chicka Pop. Business is open.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 7: The EQ guys, we all indulged in it. So it
Speaker 7: was great. I also, that's the other thing I I'll play.
Speaker 7: I'll play a little bit of Fortnite. I feel like
Speaker 7: I'm the longest tenured Fortnite player in the NFL. I
Speaker 7: started playing when the game came out, and I haven't
Speaker 7: played another game since. It's the only game I'll play
Speaker 7: when I've gone through like four or five different rosters
Speaker 7: of guys. So my Mondays and Tuesdays, when I have
Speaker 7: some time off, I'll kick back in the chair and
Speaker 7: play the game for sure.
Speaker 3: And didn't like I've never been.
Speaker 5: I was more of a pubg guy versus Fortnite, But
Speaker 5: didn't Fortnite just like go back to like an original
Speaker 5: map or something like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the OG map is back. They got a different
Speaker 6: get you know.
Speaker 7: You know you ever played Call of Duty too that
Speaker 7: you remember gun game in the town?
Speaker 6: Oh, they have that.
Speaker 7: Now you can play that with Fortnite guns. Like, no, Bill,
Speaker 7: there's a bunch of you know. So I'll get on
Speaker 7: with my high school buddies and we'll play that, which
Speaker 7: is fun.
Speaker 6: That's probably my guilty pleasure of the week is.
Speaker 4: That air you're a big first person shooter guy, like, hey,
Speaker 4: we're playing with a bunch of people, or do you
Speaker 4: like a good storyline when it comes to your video games?
Speaker 7: Also, and the storyline doesn't do it for me. I
Speaker 7: am I'm not gonna play by myself either. I like
Speaker 7: how like if my buddies are on, I'll play because
Speaker 7: it's more about the camaraderie for me and just a
Speaker 7: little bit of competition that's kind of unconscious. You can
Speaker 7: sit back and do whatever. But I never got into
Speaker 7: the storyline. I think like the last storyline game I
Speaker 7: played was probably Halo three way back in the day.
Speaker 3: Still a great game.
Speaker 6: It's a great game, but yeah, I know it's more
Speaker 6: first person.
Speaker 4: If you want something that's less uh stressful in the
Speaker 4: eyes and the reaction time, we got a nice little
Speaker 4: thing going with a game called Risk. It's a board game.
Speaker 4: We play it on the Xbox Live, and that would
Speaker 4: be a great addition to try to Yes, dude, it
Speaker 4: is so much fun because everyone is making strategical moves
Speaker 4: and you're like texting people on the side like I'm
Speaker 4: gonna do this, you gotta go do this. He's getting
Speaker 4: too powerful, and guys, we're just talking shit the whole time.
Speaker 4: Back you're really playing the game for like four or
Speaker 4: five hours. It's definitely an offseason game, but I think
Speaker 4: you would be a phenomenal addition. Yo, time you got
Speaker 4: anything else for the boy?
Speaker 5: I think last time we talked about after the tier talk,
Speaker 5: we were getting into some ice cream. Is that a
Speaker 5: subject that you have some expertise in where you got
Speaker 5: a ranking? You have a little ranking system for your
Speaker 5: top three? I see you cleaning your throat like this
Speaker 5: might be your moment.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't say. I wouldn't call myself an expert.
Speaker 7: Just speaking honestly. I like what I like, and I'm
Speaker 7: I'm standard when it comes to ice creams. You're not
Speaker 7: going to enjoy my valuation, but I can give it
Speaker 7: to you.
Speaker 3: I would love to hear it.
Speaker 4: It's I could just see I see Have you ever
Speaker 4: seen that that video on Instagram of the guys who
Speaker 4: grabbed the spoon and he's like showing you how you.
Speaker 3: Taste ice cream?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I feel like christ is doing that in his head
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Now this will make you sick because my my rankings
Speaker 7: aren't anyway.
Speaker 6: Number one oh for me.
Speaker 7: At the top, Yeah, yeah, maybe I'll start three.
Speaker 6: Number three is mint chocolate chip. Number two.
Speaker 7: Is anything Oreo cookies and cream, and my Numbnumber one
Speaker 7: is Hoggin DAW's vanilla ice cream.
Speaker 6: Yep, boys, I'm sorry. I don't know what to tell
Speaker 6: you that. I apologize, and but that's what it is.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to sit here and lie on on
Speaker 7: the bus.
Speaker 3: Do you want to know?
Speaker 5: That was worse than watching the first half of that
Speaker 5: game like Raiders Jets, Like that's just word.
Speaker 4: That's as bad as watching an Iowa football game. Right there,
Speaker 4: you're this is not this is actually not a joke.
Speaker 4: If you were to flip your picks, you have the
Speaker 4: same exact palette as my six year old daughter. Yeah great,
Speaker 4: And now I meant chocolate chip.
Speaker 5: Is just it always blows my mind when people are like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I messed with min chocolate chip.
Speaker 3: Let me explain the.
Speaker 7: Mint chocolate chip though, because I I used to agree
Speaker 7: with you on that, I would I would laugh.
Speaker 6: When someone would bring up mint chocolate chip.
Speaker 7: But to me, it's the you could eat the whole
Speaker 7: thing and feel good like whatever whatever ones you guys
Speaker 7: are probably gonna say your three bites and you have
Speaker 7: a stomach cache right like it depends.
Speaker 5: I mean, I can I get to the bottom and
Speaker 5: then it takes probably twenty minutes for it to kick in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, then you've hurt it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if I'm on some vitamins, I can put down
Speaker 5: like a pint and a half before I try to
Speaker 5: say like, hey, well you gotta stop.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we like three pre biotics before to convince yourself
Speaker 6: like this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll throw in PF changs. Last night and I
Speaker 5: gave myself three digestive ents. I'm thinking like like I'm good,
Speaker 5: I'm completely fine.
Speaker 3: Hey, that is the logic though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were in we were at barstool HQ and
Speaker 4: bake Cat orders what's this? Body orders the milkshakes for
Speaker 4: to make it special, Portillo's Portillos. He orders milkshakes for
Speaker 4: Portillo's and these we're talking about guzzlers. We're talking about
Speaker 4: big gulps. You get the seven to eleven size, yeah,
Speaker 4: like sixty four ounce yeah. And Will He's like, have
Speaker 4: you had Jenny's ice cream? Have you had gooey butter cake?
Speaker 4: And a couple of guys did, a couple of guys didn't.
Speaker 4: So we'll also orders that I drink an entire the
Speaker 4: sixty four ounce vanilla shake, and then the gooey butter
Speaker 4: cake got there, and I'm like, I'm gonna have a
Speaker 4: couple of bites.
Speaker 3: I had a whole damn part of that too. For me,
Speaker 3: it's not the stomach.
Speaker 4: I feel like my lower extremities, I'm like, legit feel
Speaker 4: them like I feel like I could tear anything at
Speaker 4: any moment.
Speaker 5: But your thing with min chocolate chip is like you
Speaker 5: feel you feel just as like, you don't feel as bad.
Speaker 6: It's a refresher. To me, yeah, it's a refresher and
Speaker 6: every bite you want to do anything.
Speaker 7: I like about it because I've always had a critique
Speaker 7: on men chocolate chip is that they don't you don't
Speaker 7: get enough chocolate chip in it, and so you're always
Speaker 7: waiting for the next bite. But that's part of what
Speaker 7: keeps you in the game, is you know, if you're
Speaker 7: unconsciously scooping you're eating, You're like, man, I wish there
Speaker 7: was a chocolate chip in that bite. All you're thinking
Speaker 7: about is the next bite. Like when I have the
Speaker 7: ouey guy whatever, the butter cake you have that, by
Speaker 7: the way, you've had that on the first bite.
Speaker 6: Every bite's the same. You're like, all right, I'm I'm
Speaker 6: good dude.
Speaker 5: To me, it's like, holy shit, I get un in
Speaker 5: higher pint of this flavor in my mouth because I'm
Speaker 5: one of those guys I eat faster because like, as
Speaker 5: as it's gone in my mouth, I need to taste
Speaker 5: back in.
Speaker 6: So I'm always yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And like a Jenny's, you let it sit for just
Speaker 5: a little bit so you can start getting a little
Speaker 5: the little melted edges, and then that is when you
Speaker 5: know you're playing with house money. Because for me, the
Speaker 5: gooey butter cake and like the high five candy bar
Speaker 5: from Jenny's Dairy Queen.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a big chocolate candy guy.
Speaker 5: Dude, if that's loaded up and you know some it's
Speaker 5: all the way down to the bottom, Like to me,
Speaker 5: that's that's It's like, do you want to feel refreshed
Speaker 5: after eating ice cream?
Speaker 3: And me, my answer is no. If that's how we
Speaker 3: eat ice cream, then I don't want to be right
Speaker 3: as an adult way.
Speaker 7: And hey, I actually that's a good point, and I
Speaker 7: understand that maybe in a different stage in my life,
Speaker 7: maybe I changed my mind. Just right now where I'm at,
Speaker 7: I like the classics. The other thing too, Yeah, just
Speaker 7: a vanilla. So much pressure. There's so much pressure when
Speaker 7: you go to like an ice cream store in order
Speaker 7: because there's ten thousand flavors, and you're like, I'm not
Speaker 7: gonna buy five pints of different ones. Well you could,
Speaker 7: but I know what's consistent, and I know what's I'm
Speaker 7: gonna enjoy. Like if I order cookies and cream, if
Speaker 7: I'm going to an ice cream you know, a little
Speaker 7: local shop and they have cookies and cream, that's what
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get because I know I'm gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 7: But if I get like chocolate fudge brownie with something,
Speaker 7: I'm like, you're it's fifty to fifty whether or not
Speaker 7: I'm even gonna like this, and it's twenty eighty whether
Speaker 7: or not it's I'm gonna like it more than cookies
Speaker 7: and cream. So that's why I stick to the classics,
Speaker 7: because I know for a fact I'll enjoy it, and
Speaker 7: that's good enough for me.
Speaker 6: I'm not a risk taker at the ice cream stick.
Speaker 4: That's a good that's an all great point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a veteran. I feel like that is a veterans.
Speaker 5: Eavy moved because I can get caught windows shopping for sure,
Speaker 5: and I'll still eat the whole things and I'll be
Speaker 5: like I would have liked you know what, I knew
Speaker 5: I loved before this.
Speaker 3: Because I am I'm like, oh, that thing sounds good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I'm like you in that way.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you see when you like but there's that other one,
Speaker 4: you're like, man, maybe I should get that, And then
Speaker 4: one of your buddies or your wife gets that one,
Speaker 4: and then you have a couple bites of years and
Speaker 4: they're like, hey, do you want to try? And you
Speaker 4: obviously do try, and then that one's better. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, the plate you're at is
Speaker 4: it's worthless to you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I'll do. He kind of alluded to it,
Speaker 5: but I will. I'll buy a couple. I'll buy a
Speaker 5: couple and figure out if this is really worth the flavor.
Speaker 5: I'll eat it, and then I'll save my one of
Speaker 5: my you know, o G favorites at home, and then
Speaker 5: if I don't like it, just toss.
Speaker 3: And we'll get back to business.
Speaker 4: I feel like, as an adult, when you get into
Speaker 4: your thirties, like the idea of having ice cream it's
Speaker 4: a you have to you have to get amped up.
Speaker 4: Like you're you're at the boy's house, you're hanging out
Speaker 4: and having a good time. You're like, do you want
Speaker 4: some dairy queen ice cream. You're like, yes, I want
Speaker 4: some dairy Queen ice cream, and you're gonna go off.
Speaker 4: That's not the time to get your vanilla's, your min
Speaker 4: chocol chips, so your your orioles, even though an oriol
Speaker 4: blizzard does hit, but that's a little yeah, you get
Speaker 4: a little while. Yeah, obviously I want the large can.
Speaker 4: They put an extra squirt of uh caramel in that thing.
Speaker 4: Like that's when you get a little wild. You know,
Speaker 4: if you're sitting in the side having like after your
Speaker 4: nice little dinner on a Thursday night and have one
Speaker 4: scoop of vanilla ice cream, you might be a serial killer.
Speaker 4: That is that's a crazy move. That's a crazy move
Speaker 4: as an adult, I know.
Speaker 7: But it's Hogan DAWs specifically, the Hogandaws is the best
Speaker 7: I'll feel. I'll feel this is what will happen, though,
Speaker 7: and because I understand what you're saying, and it's great,
Speaker 7: it's a great point. But I'll feel, you know, like
Speaker 7: I'm gonna venture off and do something crazy. I'll order
Speaker 7: a strawberry because sometimes that strawberry is intriguing.
Speaker 6: You're like, I'm going for and maybe it's maybe it's
Speaker 6: the mood you're in.
Speaker 7: Like, I don't want anything heavy, And as soon as
Speaker 7: I take that bite of strawberry, instant regret. As soon
Speaker 7: as I take any any other bite other than vanilla
Speaker 7: or Oreo, it's instant regret because I'm comparing it to that. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's why I like you, know, I respect the places
Speaker 7: where you can add your own topics because every time
Speaker 7: I get vanilla and I add Oreos and I don't
Speaker 7: want the gummy worms and I don't want that in
Speaker 7: my ice cream. I don't want even sprinkles. I've never
Speaker 7: been a spring. They don't do anything.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: I was with you with the worms.
Speaker 4: You lost me on the sprinkles because I personally you're
Speaker 4: a sprinkle guy. My favorite combination is vanilla ice cream
Speaker 4: with caramel and sprinkles. I think that is just an
Speaker 4: absolute staple that to me is probably the best combination
Speaker 4: can possibly have. That's why that's why I said, I
Speaker 4: don't hate a vanilla.
Speaker 6: Take the caramel.
Speaker 3: He's just a vanilla. Rainbow sprinkles, not the chocolate ones,
Speaker 3: the rainbow ones. You are a fruitcake man, bro Bro,
Speaker 3: you put a little extra on there, adds texture. Dog sprinkles.
Speaker 3: That is insane.
Speaker 4: No, I see why every time we talk about treats
Speaker 4: or snacks that I have to be together the odd
Speaker 4: man out. I'm telling you, sprinkles is a move on
Speaker 4: ice cream.
Speaker 3: It's a move.
Speaker 7: No, it takes away, it takes all of it takes
Speaker 7: away what ice cream is. I don't like my ice
Speaker 7: cream shouldn't be they shouldn't have sprinkles on.
Speaker 6: This is the thing. You put oreos on ice cream.
Speaker 7: That makes sense because you're like, I could have an
Speaker 7: oreole plane and it's gonna taste good when you eat sprinkles.
Speaker 6: Like, when are you eating sprinkles plane? You would never
Speaker 6: do that's so why would you do it?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: It's not when you when you have a cheeseburger and
Speaker 4: you put ketchup on it. If you alrea to eat
Speaker 4: ketchup by itself, even I want to eat this. It's
Speaker 4: the same thing as you're saying to the sprinkles.
Speaker 6: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: It's the same analogy you just used. Hang on, what
Speaker 3: else what.
Speaker 7: Else you can ket You can put ketch fifty different things.
Speaker 7: You can put ketchup on a million things. Sprinkles you're
Speaker 7: dealing with one one.
Speaker 3: Category and a sugar cookie or something like that, like
Speaker 3: lost cookie.
Speaker 7: And by the way, I don't even I don't want
Speaker 7: the sprinkles on the sugar cookie either.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sugar sprinkles is kind of just like that annoying
Speaker 5: rain that's like it's not heavy enough to be like,
Speaker 5: you know, hey, it's storming outside.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of hitting you and you're just like,
Speaker 3: why is it rain? What a waste of a day.
Speaker 4: I could not disagree with either of you more. I
Speaker 4: think sprinkles is a it's not. It's my favorite topping
Speaker 4: on with vanilla ice cream and caramel, that combination, and
Speaker 4: it's a it's a unique little thing. It's like your
Speaker 4: pumpkin spice lottes. It's you just it's not for all
Speaker 4: the time. It's for in those moments you said it's
Speaker 4: your favorite. It's my favorite combination. If you have vanilla
Speaker 4: ice cream, yeah, we heard it. French vanilla, caramel and sprinkles.
Speaker 4: You put those three together, you're living, You're living the dream.
Speaker 3: That is that To me, it is an.
Speaker 4: Oreoles are great. Oreos are great, but it's essentially you
Speaker 4: said the same thing. You did the same thing with
Speaker 4: oreoles as I did with ketchup and a burger, and
Speaker 4: I know that ketchup's a more versatile condiment. However, mustard
Speaker 4: still more versatile thing. But it's gonna make your sandwich better.
Speaker 4: But you're not gonna get mustard by itself.
Speaker 7: You're playing and you're playing with an old ball. You're
Speaker 7: playing on two completely different fields here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's all right, Yeah, No, that is your Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's again, that's your truth. That is your truth for sure.
Speaker 4: Popcorn talk about, Hey, we're never gonna go out to
Speaker 4: eat together, the three of us.
Speaker 2: We know.
Speaker 3: I think that.
Speaker 4: I think that's why we have We're gonna get ice
Speaker 4: cream the next time we see each other.
Speaker 3: Christian were like, Taylor, what are you getting.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna come out to Nashville in the off season
Speaker 7: and we're gonna get thirty different ice creams.
Speaker 6: We're gonna put them down and we're going to test
Speaker 6: all of them.
Speaker 4: And we got to cover the label, so we have
Speaker 4: no idea what flavor it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it will rank perfect gooey buttercake coming out top
Speaker 3: I know it's going to come out top three, no doubt.
Speaker 6: I actually with my over this offseason, I did that
Speaker 6: same thing.
Speaker 7: We did a big taste test for all these ice creams,
Speaker 7: and vanilla wasn't included, and cookies and cream wasn't included.
Speaker 7: And I can't remember what finished top. But maybe next
Speaker 7: time i'll come back and I think I have it
Speaker 7: on video, I'll remember which one one, because probably if
Speaker 7: you want a more sophisticated answer, then I can give
Speaker 7: you whatever, whatever flavor one on that day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll definitely, we'll definitely do that. That's that's that's
Speaker 3: right up our alley. Yeah. No, we're a big, big
Speaker 3: ice cream boys.
Speaker 4: Do what Yeah, that's a great good time, A couple vitamins,
Speaker 4: play some risk after Oh yes, yeah, absolutely, we'll have
Speaker 4: a time.
Speaker 5: Yeah are we solid? It seems like a CMC. Thank
Speaker 5: you for giving us, gifting us your time. Bro, Uh,
Speaker 5: we really were. We were rooting for your hardcore. I
Speaker 5: was yelling at my TV because I had you in
Speaker 5: a parlay, I had you in a parlay. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: was feeling it with you. But yeah, fired up for you, bro.
Speaker 5: Sixteen games a touchdown streak.
Speaker 3: That is that is awesome. Eighteen my fault.
Speaker 4: Eighteen tied a record TI day record in the NFL.
Speaker 4: His name will be etched in history forever. We're we're
Speaker 4: gonna keep We're gonna end this on a great note.
Speaker 4: We're not gonna bring up last week and what happened
Speaker 4: between the three of us last week. We'll talk about
Speaker 4: that at a different time because it's been such high vibes.
Speaker 4: But we appreciate you coming on. Make sure you tell
Speaker 4: Broc I said hello, and I'm rooting for him.
Speaker 6: I I appreciate you guys always.
Speaker 3: Man all right, brother, we'll see you. You're the man.
Speaker 3: Bro every time. Every time.
Speaker 5: He's good at the list of his logic, and it
Speaker 5: is great too. When he goes, uh, he's like he
Speaker 5: kind of sets it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 5: He's kind of sitting there like, uh, I can do
Speaker 5: a list, Like I'm not an expert, but I'll give
Speaker 5: it to you if you want me to, kind of
Speaker 5: like setting it up, like you know, yeah, give it
Speaker 5: to us.
Speaker 3: And he's like, all right.
Speaker 4: Then he kind of just pauses, looks down because he
Speaker 4: knew that vanilla at the top was gonna really throw
Speaker 4: a lot of people through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I I if I was to pick.
Speaker 4: Between the core three of strawberry, vanilla and chocolate, I
Speaker 4: would pick I would pick vanilla, which I know I'm
Speaker 4: an outlier on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, to me, I can go now. Strawberry is a
Speaker 5: third for me unless we're talking milkshakes. I think a
Speaker 5: smooth like a strawberry milkshake is solid. But to me,
Speaker 5: picking the three out of vanilla, chocolate, and strawberry, it's
Speaker 5: kind of like, you know which Pokemon am I gonna
Speaker 5: start with? It doesn't really like I can, I can you?
Speaker 5: We can win with all of them.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 4: I love that. I love that the way you explained it,
Speaker 4: like Pokemon. Pokemon has been a big category for us. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: this weekend. Really just twice it was the name game
Speaker 4: and no now yeah yeah, but still it rings true
Speaker 4: way I.
Speaker 3: Mean, we grew up on Pokemon. Man.
Speaker 4: Man, if you guys, if that was a true locker
Speaker 4: room hang on session, it was, Yeah. And that's that's
Speaker 4: why you come here, boys, that's why you come to
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Obviously, McCaffrey just played. We have Steve O coming on.
Speaker 4: We're gonna rip some ads for you guys. We're gonna
Speaker 4: do good bad the We're gonna do our twisted question
Speaker 4: of the week. Is there anything else that we're gonna do?
Speaker 3: Because I feel like, what's the question?
Speaker 9: Direct?
Speaker 3: Take?
Speaker 4: Also, let's do you want to do our good bad
Speaker 4: the ogly? Do you want to twisted twist the question?
Speaker 3: First? Let's go.
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Speaker 10: All right, our twisted question this week. It's pretty cut
Speaker 10: and dry. Would you rather be blind or be deaf?
Speaker 3: I always think the negative ones?
Speaker 5: I know, yeah, like these are always you know they've
Speaker 5: been some lose lose Yeah, but short short answer for
Speaker 5: me is deaf.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think deaf too.
Speaker 10: So I So I saw something on Twitter about this
Speaker 10: one and UH like a friend asked one of their
Speaker 10: blind friends, like, if you could be which one would
Speaker 10: you rather be and she said that she'd rather be
Speaker 10: blind because being deaf is so lonely because you can't
Speaker 10: really like you're just you're not hearing anything all the time,
Speaker 10: whereas like being blind, like you can still have conversations
Speaker 10: with people and like still connect with them, but blunt,
Speaker 10: like being deaf, you can't. You just show you're just
Speaker 10: kind of alone in silence your entire life.
Speaker 3: Fair.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good point in that movie. Uh uh
Speaker 5: Ray Ray Charles, like Jamie Fox, he made that made
Speaker 5: that Blanche. It seem kind of like a movie, kind
Speaker 5: of like a vibe and people by the wrist, no one,
Speaker 5: they look like, yeah, you don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would still go uh, I would still go
Speaker 3: death though. Do we want to do another one? Do
Speaker 3: we want to one? That's fine, we just we leave
Speaker 3: it out there. That's you know, that's one. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: question of the week. I think we can. There's there's
Speaker 3: some upside I guess with both see everything or hear everything.
Speaker 10: These are these are tough to come up with. So
Speaker 10: if you guys, if you guys have a twice of questions,
Speaker 10: drop him into comments because your boys struggled.
Speaker 4: Well, that's where you can use the Internet to your advantage.
Speaker 4: Monday mornings, you can go on the bust and account.
Speaker 4: Pop that thing out there and see what people bring up.
Speaker 4: You know, Dan, it's no longer on. Mitch Carson is
Speaker 4: now in.
Speaker 3: The people.
Speaker 6: Helped me out.
Speaker 5: Should we jump into uh, you want to? We want
Speaker 5: to tell college ball your boys, your boys. Michigan had
Speaker 5: a big win, big win at Penn State.
Speaker 4: Big win at Penn State. Did not do a forward
Speaker 4: pass in all of the second half. I guess won
Speaker 4: that register because there was a PI that move ball
Speaker 4: down the field.
Speaker 5: Are you concerned about not throwing the ball in the
Speaker 5: second half or are you more leaned to the side
Speaker 5: of we didn't have to throw it, Like we just
Speaker 5: ran the ball the entire time to get you guys.
Speaker 4: I loved the way from a blind fans standpoint, that
Speaker 4: the way that Dave phrased it. He's like, we are
Speaker 4: so dominant that we decided we're just going to run
Speaker 4: the ball the whole time. Me you saw me at
Speaker 4: bat Rouge. I had a lot of questions, like, what's
Speaker 4: going on with JJ?
Speaker 3: Is he al right? Did he get hurt?
Speaker 4: Because I know he's a couple of hits in the
Speaker 4: beginning of the game, or maybe something happened the week
Speaker 4: before that. I'll feel a whole lot better after this week.
Speaker 4: We're playing Maryland this week. I think the Lion has
Speaker 4: already started at like minus twenty and a half, which
Speaker 4: is kind of small, but I almost think Michigan's not
Speaker 4: going to cover that. Why because the game is the
Speaker 4: next week and I've I said at the beginning of
Speaker 4: the year, Maryland is the scariest game on our schedule
Speaker 4: because it's between Penn State, big win, and obviously all
Speaker 4: the heightened emotions with the allegation Searon More you saw
Speaker 4: it in his face after the game, and then you
Speaker 4: go into Maryland and it's kind of like, Okay, let's
Speaker 4: play this team, even though it's a good ball club,
Speaker 4: especially in September, they're a great ball club. And then
Speaker 4: but you got Ahio State to look forward to after that,
Speaker 4: and just continuing the fu button that Michigans can just
Speaker 4: press since you know, middle of October when all these
Speaker 4: allegations came out. So I don't know, it does make me,
Speaker 4: it makes you worried.
Speaker 3: I just think if I'm looking at it was I'm like,
Speaker 3: why aren't they throwing the ball?
Speaker 5: Because again, JJ's like a Heisman contender wins idiot, whether
Speaker 5: or not he's in the top three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's up for avice debate.
Speaker 4: I think after that game, you can't like you're not
Speaker 4: going to look back and go, Okay, this guy's gonna
Speaker 4: win the Heisman. No, let's say, let's say he was
Speaker 4: a front runner, which he had one. I think he
Speaker 4: betting odds after a Michigan State he was does you
Speaker 4: have the best still? Which is wild because you have
Speaker 4: you know, I think bow Knicks is balling in Oregon
Speaker 4: right now. That Henx kid, and uh, he's a stud
Speaker 4: and is it Jade and Daniels the guy from Yeah
Speaker 4: Jane Daniels.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but he he is not very right right
Speaker 5: right if we're talking best player Heisman, like outside of
Speaker 5: how well the team does, because they are seven to
Speaker 5: three and one of the best offenses, I mean, insane,
Speaker 5: possibly the best offense in the country, right, but they
Speaker 5: just have zero defense.
Speaker 3: But that dude, that cat, Jane Daniel, like he is
Speaker 3: a monster.
Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And so if you're giving an argument for why JJ
Speaker 4: should not win, because there's a lot of good ball
Speaker 4: players this year, a lot of good quarterbacks, especially it's
Speaker 4: top ten game, the first real game according to everybody else.
Speaker 4: So you've played this whole entire year. Why aren't you
Speaker 4: put it basically putting on JJ shoulders the entire time?
Speaker 5: Yeah right, I think this Penn State game kind of
Speaker 5: tossed him out of the conversation, like he maybe he'll
Speaker 5: be there at the awards ceremony. But it's again, you're
Speaker 5: playing a team like Penn State, like everyboy, we we
Speaker 5: all watch that game like that was a massive game
Speaker 5: and a Heisman winner. You're you're leaning on that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you're leaning on that guy.
Speaker 3: To the game. But it's more like brilliant Blake Korm
Speaker 3: than me.
Speaker 5: Is you know somebody who's more of a Heisman candidate
Speaker 5: coming out of Michigan than anybody else.
Speaker 3: What if JJ is a good game in the game, Again,
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 4: Hard because it's like you're looking at these guys like
Speaker 4: you're looking at Pennix, You're looking at Jayden you said
Speaker 4: from lsu.
Speaker 3: Je Daniels, and you're looking at bow Nicks.
Speaker 4: Bow Knicks, and it's like those games, those big games
Speaker 4: are like we have to have this guy like be
Speaker 4: dishing out the ball. You have to make sure this
Speaker 4: guy we had to put it on his shoulders because
Speaker 4: he's gonna win it in that game will be on him.
Speaker 4: And then you're like, how do we defeat this man?
Speaker 4: And now Michigan, you know, we have a we have
Speaker 4: a good run game that came out against a team
Speaker 4: that was I think statistically top.
Speaker 5: Five both teams, Like that was a straight running game
Speaker 5: and the running game it was, it was age.
Speaker 3: It was an awesome game.
Speaker 4: I just hope JJ is not hurt or something happened
Speaker 4: where it's like you don't want to put the ball
Speaker 4: in his hands and throw it a whole bunch, because
Speaker 4: he had three picks against Bowling Green, but since then
Speaker 4: he's had zero picks.
Speaker 3: He's been dishing it.
Speaker 4: You watch the away he was pending as Michigan State,
Speaker 4: Like that game specifically stands out in my mind where
Speaker 4: the placement of the football was going. And then the
Speaker 4: week before that against Perdue, he had a couple that
Speaker 4: you know, catching guys while they're running and they're kind
Speaker 4: of catching it behind them and a couple things to you,
Speaker 4: and that stands out to you. After the Michigan State
Speaker 4: game and then this game, no throws. Yeah, eight throws
Speaker 4: and he still goes seven for eight with sixty yards,
Speaker 4: So it's not like, what do you mean still if
Speaker 4: you're seven for eight after I think it was like
Speaker 4: maybe the first quarter or a couple of minutes in
Speaker 4: the second quarter, he was already like seven for eight
Speaker 4: and that's those are good numbers.
Speaker 5: That's a good completion percentage. Yeah, as a quarterback facilitating
Speaker 5: an offense. Those aren't Heisman numbers, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: But if you're in the first quarter of a game,
Speaker 4: that's solid.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's the only time you threw it, That's what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I'm wondering what happened that they had
Speaker 4: to make the adjustment to go and just run it.
Speaker 4: And I'm looking at it from a critical eye of
Speaker 4: like being more nervous than I am optimistic, like Davis
Speaker 4: taking the optimistic approach where it's like, we don't have
Speaker 4: to throw the ball with our with our Heisman quarterback
Speaker 4: to win the game.
Speaker 3: We can beat you any what you want.
Speaker 4: Personally, I walked away from that game being like good
Speaker 4: Win boys covered. I thought they played well. I thought
Speaker 4: the defense was in a bend, don't break situation against
Speaker 4: a better offense than they've played. I thought the quarterback
Speaker 4: for Penn State played.
Speaker 3: Really, really, really bad. Yeah, that was brutal.
Speaker 4: I thought he was terrible because he did throw the
Speaker 4: ball a lot and he had fifty yards of offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was That was tough to watch.
Speaker 4: So so now I sit there and just unbiasedly looking
Speaker 4: at the game, you may see me personally a little
Speaker 4: more nervous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you I can see that. But the positive
Speaker 5: is that defense played really well. And yeah, the quarterback,
Speaker 5: they didn't have a quarterback. It would have been you know,
Speaker 5: it'd have been interesting had they had an accurate quarterback
Speaker 5: playing decent did.
Speaker 3: They have at Ohio State?
Speaker 5: Right, which, But another positive is, like, you know, you're
Speaker 5: really leaning on blakecorm and he was delivering.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then obviously the game's coming up and speeding
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Speaker 4: quick if JJ. Let's say balls against Maryland has crazy numbers,
Speaker 4: and then he does the same thing against Ohio State,
Speaker 4: and then he does the same thing in the Big
Speaker 4: Ten Championship game.
Speaker 5: Do you think he's still out of that Heisman talk.
Speaker 5: I think he's in like a top five, but I
Speaker 5: don't think he ever. I don't think he sniffed the
Speaker 5: top three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard for me to argue after seven and
Speaker 4: eight and sixty yards.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean if he was ballin's
Speaker 5: I'm trying to be like objective about it. To me,
Speaker 5: it's like if you're looking at who to vote for
Speaker 5: for the Heisman winner in a game like Penn State,
Speaker 5: when you're in some third medium, third longer and you're
Speaker 5: still just running the football, like you're gonna lean on
Speaker 5: your Heisman player.
Speaker 3: Who is the award is for the best player in
Speaker 3: college football? Right?
Speaker 5: And to me, it's like Blake korm is the best
Speaker 5: player on the team in Michigan. That's what they're who
Speaker 5: they were leaning on throughout the entire game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: If you look at Blake's numbers though, I mean, he's
Speaker 4: his average like five point nine yards per carry, but
Speaker 4: he hadn't had like crazy numbers this year aside from
Speaker 4: the amount of touchdowns he scored.
Speaker 3: Again, he's not playing a whole lot in a second.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Fair, You had an interesting conversation on Thursday at
Speaker 4: HQ with Casey about how this college football playoff, Yeah
Speaker 4: money between five and seven. Do you want to break
Speaker 4: that down for a little because I was kind of
Speaker 4: I was away from that conversation getting ready for the
Speaker 4: Pro Football Football Show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so what you ultimately like, what we're gonna see
Speaker 5: is teams being left out of the college football Playoff.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have an undefeated Big Ten champion, assuming the
Speaker 5: trap gate like, assuming teams take care of business, right,
Speaker 5: You're only gonna look at the game. Whoever wins Ohao
Speaker 5: State Michigan is gonna come out of an undefeated Big
Speaker 5: Ten champion, an undefeated Florida State. As we as we
Speaker 5: sit here and look at it, a one lost Pac
Speaker 5: twelve champion from Oregon or Washington, one lost Texas, a
Speaker 5: one lost SEC champ Alabama if they beat Georgia in
Speaker 5: the SEC championship, a one lost Georgia and a one
Speaker 5: lost Big ten, one lost Big ten team. If that's
Speaker 5: how it plays out, I think the way it is
Speaker 5: trending right now, Georgia has looked more like a Georgia.
Speaker 5: Georgia looks scary this week they yeah, for sure, but
Speaker 5: also Bama looks real in my opinion, Bama's gonna win
Speaker 5: the SEC championship. Like, who do you think who do
Speaker 5: you think comes out? Who do you think comes out
Speaker 5: of these conferences? Who you're obviously Michigan?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know Who's I think that. I think
Speaker 4: the question should be who do we think is left out?
Speaker 4: Because I think we might live in a world where
Speaker 4: an undefeated Florida State team could be left out of
Speaker 4: the College Fable playoffs.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: I think ACC champion and I get it, but like
Speaker 5: go to Florida, Florida, Florida, Florida statecas.
Speaker 4: This is hurt by Oklahoma because they lost to Oklahoma
Speaker 4: and Oklahoma's just been not great frauds in the college
Speaker 4: FOOTBA landscape.
Speaker 3: Georgia if they lose.
Speaker 4: To Alabama, Alabama has come out in a big way
Speaker 4: where it's like the elite? Can you can you leave
Speaker 4: them out? What happens if Ohio State loses to Michigan?
Speaker 4: Do they go from one to five? Like if Michigan
Speaker 4: loses O they will they will absolutely be out. People
Speaker 4: are looking for a reason and they're three. They would
Speaker 4: be out no matter what. Even without the allegations, you're
Speaker 4: gonna have Florida State.
Speaker 5: When you're looking at their schedule, they beat l s U,
Speaker 5: they beat Clemson, they beat Duke, they beat.
Speaker 3: I don't know if wake Force has ever been ranked
Speaker 3: this year, they beat what's up Clemson? Cson's like five
Speaker 3: hundred this year.
Speaker 5: Or a dead But they're starting, they're like, they're like
Speaker 5: starting to play better right now in this back half
Speaker 5: of the year. They really, I mean they are. I'm
Speaker 5: with you, But again, I think a win over an
Speaker 5: l s U, like if a winner is like their
Speaker 5: only yeah, because they because.
Speaker 4: They they played Duke when Duke was no longer ranked.
Speaker 4: Duke with Duke was hot September in like early October,
Speaker 4: and they kind of fell off a little bit.
Speaker 3: Right, they're no longer they're no longer ranked.
Speaker 5: But if you go off them being undefeated, beat two
Speaker 5: SEC teams, because you'll people talk about Florida, people talk
Speaker 5: about l s U. Uh, you win the ACC Championship
Speaker 5: or whoever comes out of that's gonna be probably North Carolina, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but North Carolina there's two lost team.
Speaker 5: It'll play into the data of like strength of schedule
Speaker 5: being good enough to be in the top four. Right,
Speaker 5: I personally don't think that they're that they're a top
Speaker 5: four football team coming out of it to the collegewall playoff.
Speaker 3: I just think if they do go undefeated, they will
Speaker 3: get in.
Speaker 6: D Who do you think gets left out?
Speaker 5: Let's hear them bring up the top not bring up
Speaker 5: the top ten. Let's tear who we think these teams
Speaker 5: are in the college howall playoff talk?
Speaker 4: Because I'll tell you what. The scariest thing to happened
Speaker 4: this weekend was Georgia. The way they came out and
Speaker 4: they're just how is brock Bauers back.
Speaker 5: I think if I was, if you tier these schools,
Speaker 5: he had the top tier kind of plays itself out.
Speaker 3: Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State.
Speaker 4: One of those teams will get left out. Between Michigan
Speaker 4: Ohio State, I.
Speaker 3: Think Tier two right now? Yeah, is you know who
Speaker 3: I literally the rest of them?
Speaker 5: Alabama, so four to eight, Florida State, Washington, Oregon, and
Speaker 5: then you got Texas Alabama. Who I would jump over
Speaker 5: Oregon State and LSU right or Louisiana right now is Missouri.
Speaker 4: I put Missouri in my I put over put Missouri
Speaker 4: over Lowville in Oregon State.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for to round out my Tier three how I
Speaker 5: think it will end up. My prediction. I think, uh,
Speaker 5: Alabama beats Georgia. I think Georgia is left out of
Speaker 5: the College Football Playoff and I think it is the
Speaker 5: Big Ten champ whoever that is. I think Florida State
Speaker 5: wins out, and then I also think Oregon gets in
Speaker 5: as a one lost Pac twelve team.
Speaker 3: So who'd you pick? Alabama think Gorgan beats Washington in
Speaker 3: the Pac twelve. Yeah, yeah, yeah, my great, great move.
Speaker 5: I even wrote that for my my direct take too,
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Speaker 5: overly direct take is Georgia gets left out of the
Speaker 5: college football Playoff. I think Alabama beats them in the
Speaker 5: SEC Championship. I think people will yell from the mountaintop
Speaker 5: whether Alabama wins by three to seven, whatever, all Georgia
Speaker 5: should get in. I think Georgia gets left off because,
Speaker 5: in my opinion, the SEC Championship if it is Georgia
Speaker 5: and Alabama should be that extension of the college football
Speaker 5: playoff getting in. I think the same thing with a
Speaker 5: Big ten that should be an extension of getting in.
Speaker 5: I think when you look at a one lost Texas,
Speaker 5: it comes down to, Okay, you're gonna have one loss
Speaker 5: teams between you say Texas wins out avenges their loss
Speaker 5: against Oklahoma, and then you have I'm thinking Oregon will
Speaker 5: come out of the Pac twelve. Then you got a
Speaker 5: one loss Oregon team avenging their loss against Washington. I
Speaker 5: think Oregon has a better has had a better schedule,
Speaker 5: a better run than a one lost Texas team. Because
Speaker 5: Texas almost lost to Kansas State. Uh, they didn't look
Speaker 5: who they just play over the weekend. They didn't look
Speaker 5: very good over the weekend with when you were was
Speaker 5: back TCU. They were in a close one with TCU. Yes,
Speaker 5: they beat Alabama, but they beat Alabama in September. They're
Speaker 5: not They didn't beat this Alabama team that's playing right
Speaker 5: now where Milroe is not a question mark. So to me,
Speaker 5: that is my college fall playoff. Oregon, Uh, Oregon, what
Speaker 5: would I say? Oregon, Alabama, Florida State and then the
Speaker 5: Big Ten Champion.
Speaker 3: Well, you need to say who the Big Ten champion
Speaker 3: is if you're making a prediction. Mmm, I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: I think it's tough. What's up?
Speaker 5: Yeah, not the oh Yeah yeah, because it's gonna come
Speaker 5: from the game. Yeah, Big Ten champion would be Michigan.
Speaker 5: You if if Machkin loses to a hot state, there's
Speaker 5: Ohia State now going the Big Ten Championship. Yes, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be Michigan or a host state. It's gonna
Speaker 5: be one of you guys. I think it is tough.
Speaker 5: I think it's tough to determine. If I had to guess,
Speaker 5: I think Ohio State sneaks you guys.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I'll want you guys to win. I will be clear.
Speaker 3: I want Michigan to win. Yeah, that's okay, that's how
Speaker 3: you want to play it. No, I'm saying I'm trying
Speaker 3: to be objective on this. Georgia is gonna be in.
Speaker 4: I think Michigan will be in, Hostile will be out, obviously,
Speaker 4: Florida State will be in.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 4: I like the Organ take because that's gonna go down
Speaker 4: to Washington Organ and the pack they'll play playing the
Speaker 4: Patkash yeah.
Speaker 5: So the winner scary, scary, but Oregon's tough man. Oregon
Speaker 5: organ has been on a who did they play this weekend?
Speaker 5: Usc Yeah, Washington played Utah.
Speaker 10: I mean Utah's has been has played all these teams
Speaker 10: super super tough. But I just Washington seems like they
Speaker 10: can score at will whenever they want. Yeah, just throws
Speaker 10: it up to their receivers and they're like, all.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, we're gonna be motivated.
Speaker 5: I like they have a they have an older defense,
Speaker 5: and we talked about about the bus them in the trenches.
Speaker 5: I like the way Oregon plays. Then you get a
Speaker 5: nice little day landing speech pregame. I like Oregon. I
Speaker 5: like Oregon fired up.
Speaker 4: So that's what I's out for. I'll take I'll take
Speaker 4: Oregon in there. I hope Georgia, Michigan, Florida State, Oregon.
Speaker 3: I hope they do too. I don't think they're that good.
Speaker 4: It's a a sec I tell you what if it's
Speaker 4: a while because like Clemson wont like two three years
Speaker 4: or something like.
Speaker 3: That, say, Florida State loses, who do we feel like
Speaker 3: gets in and and Georgia loses.
Speaker 10: One loss Michigan, Ohio State and then one loss Washington, because.
Speaker 5: You do you have a one loss Washington one I
Speaker 5: mean one loss basically one loss all of them up there.
Speaker 4: I think the only way you have two Big Ten
Speaker 4: teams in there is if Michigan beats Ohio State because
Speaker 4: Ohio State in the College Fotball PLAYFF is ranked one
Speaker 4: and Michigan's ranked three. So if Michigan loses to Ohio State,
Speaker 4: they will drop to five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if it's a close game like last last year,
Speaker 5: is a close one writer No, okay, if it was
Speaker 5: like a close game, because Ohio State did still get in.
Speaker 5: But I think if two teams got in from a conference,
Speaker 5: I think it would be Oha State Michigan because they
Speaker 5: don't play in the Big Ten Championship. I'm not saying
Speaker 5: that them over Alabama and Georgia. I'm saying that if
Speaker 5: Alabama beats Georgia in the SEC championship, like to me,
Speaker 5: that should be the plan to get into the playoff.
Speaker 6: I think Georgia gets in no matter what.
Speaker 4: I don't know, and like in previous years, when two
Speaker 4: SEC teams make it into the championship, I would agree
Speaker 4: with you. But because it's so tight between five and eight,
Speaker 4: it's hard to somebody to lose and then keep them in.
Speaker 4: But like Georgia bing two, they could easily drop three
Speaker 4: spots being like sorry boys, but they also have back
Speaker 4: to back Natty, So do you keep them in it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting the way these next three weeks kind
Speaker 4: of navigate everything.
Speaker 3: I know, it's just fun time of the year. It'll
Speaker 3: be fun. So we talk NFL. Yeah, don't let the
Speaker 3: Raiders get hot. Yeah, two in a row. They are.
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs playing back better, all of them are playing
Speaker 3: better man against it.
Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't score a whole lot of points.
Speaker 4: That that over that Delandy took did not hit even close.
Speaker 5: But because that Jets defense is crazy, Zach crazy, and
Speaker 5: Zach Wilson just hurts him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's reports coming out now that Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: said he's looking for a December comeback. So I think
Speaker 4: the Jets that would be sots are playing the Bills
Speaker 4: and the Dolphins next. They've got to win one of
Speaker 4: those to keep it for Aaron Rodgers to even try
Speaker 4: to come back, because if they lose, I think you're out.
Speaker 4: You're not out of the playoffs, but it's not looking great. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you've got to beat You've got to beat the Bills.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not looking good. But the Raiders' schedule in
Speaker 5: the back half is really tough, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're in a tough division as well.
Speaker 4: That's kind of overlooked because the Chargers have underperformed this
Speaker 4: year and the Broncos, the Broncs actually getting a whole
Speaker 4: lot better. Yeah, and the Chiefs haven't been putting a
Speaker 4: whole lot of points on the board either. So it's
Speaker 4: like kind of you are like looking past the AFC West.
Speaker 5: Right because the AFC North is filled with absolute juggernauts
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 3: The only fraud, the only fraud in there is the Steelers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they've I don't know how they're six and three,
Speaker 5: but they hate they've figured it out.
Speaker 4: The Bengals also had the same record this time last year. Bengals,
Speaker 4: I mean Bengals, Bengals are tough, tough. I can't believe
Speaker 4: they lot.
Speaker 3: I mean, C. J. Strout is incredible, Bro, he he's different.
Speaker 3: The kid is different.
Speaker 5: You hate putting it on a play player or anything
Speaker 5: like that, but man BOYD catches that ball in the
Speaker 5: end zone, Bro, they still might go down and score though, Yeah,
Speaker 5: but they have to they have to score versus kick
Speaker 5: a field goal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: I think the Texans are going to win the South.
Speaker 4: They're just getting hot at the right time right now.
Speaker 3: Texans look good. Yeah, I think the Jaguars are still
Speaker 3: This is my third.
Speaker 4: Change in the AFC South. By the way, I went no,
Speaker 4: I went to Titans twice. But I'm finally like all right,
Speaker 4: yeah and well.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because Colts like they gotta win. But again
Speaker 3: they they lost Richardson, Like they're you know, they're still.
Speaker 4: On the road five since like November seventeenth of last year.
Speaker 4: I think the last game they won was that Thursday
Speaker 4: night game against the Packers Away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you what. It is tough.
Speaker 5: It's like you had that a little bit of hope
Speaker 5: with Will Levis a couple of weeks ago, and Will's
Speaker 5: a stud, but I just.
Speaker 3: Think, yeah, the old line. It's it's kind of back
Speaker 3: to ship. I know.
Speaker 4: It's tough because you can't easily go overreact at the
Speaker 4: box score and be like he's willed up the guy,
Speaker 4: which I like Lily came in and said this on Hey,
Speaker 4: is well, well the guy or what?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think, will you get to watch a whole
Speaker 3: lot of ball yesterday? But it was.
Speaker 5: But to your point, the Texans are playing good, But
Speaker 5: I do. I think the Jaguars still get it. Like
Speaker 5: I still like. They just lost to a very tough,
Speaker 5: very pissed off Yer team. They were on a five
Speaker 5: game winning streak.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like. I still like the Jags. I like
Speaker 3: Houston to get in though.
Speaker 5: I like Houston to get in the playoffs, which is
Speaker 5: nuts to say after the way that they've been as
Speaker 5: a team the last couple of years in the organization.
Speaker 4: So who's out in the AFC North because we're looking
Speaker 4: at three teams possibly in the playoffs there? How was
Speaker 4: your fun take a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: I think the.
Speaker 5: Steelers end up still not making it. I think you
Speaker 5: got the Ravens, the Bengals, and the Browns is how
Speaker 5: it ended up. I think the Browns will scrap to
Speaker 5: try to make that seventh spot because if you look
Speaker 5: at the AFC, the AFC is loaded. When you compare
Speaker 5: the AFC and NFC, it's all kind of playing itself
Speaker 5: out now. Is because the NFC is not near as
Speaker 5: tough as they seem to be in like those first
Speaker 5: five six weeks go.
Speaker 3: You got the Chiefs, you got.
Speaker 5: The Ravens, Bengals, Browns, that's four if you go Jaguars,
Speaker 5: Texans five to six, and then there's one more who
Speaker 5: from the.
Speaker 3: You would have one coming out of the East, and
Speaker 3: I think it'll be Miami.
Speaker 8: Do you think?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 10: Look at the Steelers point points four and points against differential.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one fifty six two.
Speaker 5: That is nuts, man, just crazy because if you look
Speaker 5: at if you look at the East, then that would
Speaker 5: mean that would mean that the Bills slip and don't
Speaker 5: get in, which could happen. Like to me, they're not
Speaker 5: a team that's playing like a team that knows who
Speaker 5: they are right now there. All they do is they
Speaker 5: lean on Josh Allen. Obviously, we're recording this right now
Speaker 5: on Monday morning, so we haven't watched the game Bills
Speaker 5: versus Broncos tonight. But as of right now, where my
Speaker 5: opinion is is that, yeah, it seems like the Bills,
Speaker 5: the Bills would miss it. I would love to see
Speaker 5: the Jets come around, right You would love to see
Speaker 5: this Aaron Rodgers story kind of play out, him come
Speaker 5: back in December, he gets into the playoffs, that would
Speaker 5: be insane because if the Jets have Aaron Rodgers as
Speaker 5: the quarterback, like, they are so good of a football
Speaker 5: team because say have weapons man Garrett Wilson. He is
Speaker 5: an absolute stud Breis Hall. He just needs the he
Speaker 5: needs the offense that he needs the offense and operation
Speaker 5: and stuff to get him going because he's a great player.
Speaker 5: But they just don't have a whole lot of offense
Speaker 5: and starts with that quarterback position because their defense is
Speaker 5: a championship defense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if Aaron comes back in December, is he
Speaker 4: really going to be good enough to win? I mean,
Speaker 4: it's Aaron Rodgers, but I think we're talking an Achilles
Speaker 4: three months.
Speaker 3: If I'm saying if he comes back in December, I
Speaker 3: think so. I love that. I would love rooting for
Speaker 3: that part of it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, Let's do good, bad, the ugly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of upside, a lot of upside with
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Speaker 4: Let's see, all right, I got friends in Baton Rouge Louisiana.
Speaker 4: The hospitality of that place is incredible. Jack, what was
Speaker 4: the guy's name? I can't believe what.
Speaker 3: You're going to use it? Huh Darren, Darren.
Speaker 4: Literally one am after Shaq goes on we're hanging out.
Speaker 4: We need to get an uber back to the hotel.
Speaker 4: He's like, Hey, don't get an uber. Can you guys
Speaker 4: all fit my tahoe. We're like, yeah, we would, We
Speaker 4: absolutely can't. Drives us drives us to our meet and
Speaker 4: greet at walk On's Like, the dude is just an
Speaker 4: absolute homie. They had stakes for us on Saturday. Guys,
Speaker 4: all time, good Michigan football. Obviously, that was a big game.
Speaker 4: That was the most stress I've ever felt as a fan.
Speaker 3: Watching the game.
Speaker 4: I felt alive, I felt scared, I felt everything in between.
Speaker 3: It was awesome. C J.
Speaker 4: Strow We've talked about him, guys an episode stud LSU's
Speaker 4: game day experience calling on Baton Rouge sucked at Tiger
Speaker 4: dick bitch like all that stuff. I thought was it's
Speaker 4: the truest form of football first mentality at a university,
Speaker 4: the truest form I've ever seen. Lions, Deshaun Watson and
Speaker 4: obviously the last good is Shack in his family, not
Speaker 4: just Shack but his son as well. The group he
Speaker 4: was with everybody was super cool. I was already a
Speaker 4: massive fan enough Shack, but even more now. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean Jack was that was crazy. He's also a monster,
Speaker 4: Dud's a monster. Came up, give me a big bear hug.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you're always the biggest cat in the room, dude,
Speaker 5: and seeing you next to Shack, it's just like it
Speaker 5: is incredible, Like how big this man is even his son,
Speaker 5: his son seven feet tall, right, Sharif.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, when.
Speaker 5: He's standing next to him, he's making him just look
Speaker 5: like a twig because Shack is so wide.
Speaker 4: Bro, that is it's a that's a grown man, grown
Speaker 4: ass man. And dude, I've said this before. I said
Speaker 4: this at Fred's, but when I meet other tall guys,
Speaker 4: their go to phrases like man, I'm used to being
Speaker 4: the biggest guy in the room. I was thinking, what
Speaker 4: a weird thing to say, But when I met him,
Speaker 4: I was like, should I say that for just some
Speaker 4: like filler here or what's the deal?
Speaker 8: You understand it?
Speaker 3: Now? You understand it a little bit more. This dude
Speaker 3: came in and bear hug Taylor and put like his
Speaker 3: chin on the top of your head. Yeah. I said, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I want to like, I want to get out of it.
Speaker 3: I thought somebody was messing.
Speaker 4: He was like no, no, no, big guy, no, No,
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, is this That's what I think it
Speaker 4: is is after we obviously met him the night before
Speaker 4: and shake.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not a big em guy. That went hard.
Speaker 3: That was awesome. But that's my good. That's my good.
Speaker 5: Let me look here, okay, my good. Josh Dobbs shout
Speaker 5: out the boy. I mean, he's just playing well. I
Speaker 5: and we didn't talk at all about uh, we didn't
Speaker 5: talk about the NFC. But to me, the Vikings are
Speaker 5: a playoff team, and that conference isn't a conference like
Speaker 5: the AFC, Like a lot of teams are gonna be
Speaker 5: battling there to the end. But the AFC, like he
Speaker 5: can play out so many different ways. I feel like
Speaker 5: the NFC, you can kind of tell who's going to
Speaker 5: be in the playoffs. You got the Lions, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: the Lions. The Vikings are a playoff team. Somebody's got
Speaker 5: to come out of the South. I'm rooting for coach
Speaker 5: Arthur Smith because I don't think the Saints, so that
Speaker 5: to me, that's the weakest. That's the weakest division in football,
Speaker 5: the West. The Niners are gonna come out of it,
Speaker 5: probably the Seahawks. So you got two from the North,
Speaker 5: two from the West.
Speaker 3: That's four. Then you got somebody out of the South.
Speaker 3: That's five.
Speaker 5: Two's got to come out of the East. I think
Speaker 5: it's gonna be the Eagles and Cowboys. Like to me,
Speaker 5: that is that's more of a cookie cutter, something kind
Speaker 5: of easy to predict.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Man Josh Dobs, the way he's able to operate
Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell, I think it speaks a lot to his
Speaker 5: leadership and how they're kind of running things over there.
Speaker 5: It's the next man up mentality. They're embracing it. They're
Speaker 5: playing really good football.
Speaker 2: C J.
Speaker 3: Stroud, I mean, you go in. I was standing on
Speaker 3: the Pro Football Football Show to beat the man.
Speaker 5: You gotta beat the man, and he, I mean two
Speaker 5: weeks in a row now, game winning drives like they
Speaker 5: are riding high.
Speaker 3: Coach Ryans.
Speaker 5: He's got those boys lit up after the games and
Speaker 5: in the locker room you can tell that they're building
Speaker 5: some special there.
Speaker 3: The Raiders got it. Shout out the Boys, the Silver
Speaker 3: and Black.
Speaker 5: The Raiders now two games in a row with AP
Speaker 5: at the Helm, victory cigars.
Speaker 3: In the locker room.
Speaker 5: They've done well, They've played some good football. I also
Speaker 5: had the chaos over the college football playoff. We talked
Speaker 5: about that, and then I've absolutely nutted all over the
Speaker 5: board over the weekend nine to three and one in
Speaker 5: the Pro Football Football Show ten and three and slips
Speaker 5: in picks. If you're not gonna hype yourself up, who will?
Speaker 5: But Yeah, that's my that's my good. That's my shots.
Speaker 3: Is the good. That is a good move.
Speaker 4: What I did you see the records for Pro Football
Speaker 4: Football Show? Because I think we're a lot similar in
Speaker 4: a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I have to I'll have to go double check, but
Speaker 4: by myself, great job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how do we do? And bet the bus? Bet
Speaker 3: the bus?
Speaker 5: I believe two and four? Oh, I think I think
Speaker 5: two and four, maybe three and three, but I don't.
Speaker 5: I feel pretty strongly that we went to and four.
Speaker 5: A humbling weekend. Tennessee really let us down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not to. I'm not trying to throw
Speaker 3: salt on the wind. You know, you know, I like
Speaker 3: room for Tennessee.
Speaker 9: I remember we talked about this growth growth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right. Yeah, that was
Speaker 3: that was massive.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I guess seeing any kind of seeing that comment,
Speaker 5: Old Jack saw that comment, It's like, okay, he's trying
Speaker 5: to shoot on Tennessee.
Speaker 3: I'm really not to me.
Speaker 5: They let us down like that was a team that
Speaker 5: should have played way better at MISSOO. I mean they
Speaker 5: scored six points. That's the lowest. Is that the lowest
Speaker 5: and the hype in the hype era?
Speaker 9: Maybe maybe, I mean definitely is the lowest score all season.
Speaker 3: Man, that was just that was a bummer. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: was a bummer.
Speaker 9: Teams bummers right now.
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't think we're gonna keep it moving,
Speaker 3: keep it moving. We're getting fully covered against USC. I
Speaker 3: think they won by fourteen. Not it was it was
Speaker 3: far worse.
Speaker 9: Bet the bus.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, because I have we went to and four
Speaker 3: at all?
Speaker 11: I don't know, I know we've been five times. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 11: I'll take I'll take that one for the team.
Speaker 4: Put it on my back.
Speaker 3: That's big Joe so bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, kicked off the bad two and four Bet the
Speaker 5: bus uh, I hate that we let you guys down.
Speaker 5: I think we'll come back firing. You know, every setup
Speaker 5: or every uh step back is just you know, set
Speaker 5: up for a comeback. Whatever that quote is bad sec
Speaker 5: just firing head coaches left and right. But the good
Speaker 5: the upside. You should aspire to be a fired uh
Speaker 5: football coach. I mean negotiated deal, yes, y yeah, a
Speaker 5: seventy six million dollar buyout that is absurd to not
Speaker 5: coach ball over the next six years.
Speaker 3: It was the six years, eight years. He's chilling.
Speaker 5: He's chilling, I mean, he's ball coaches who get fired.
Speaker 5: McDaniels was another one. I think it was forty something
Speaker 5: million was his buyout. Aspire to be a fired pro
Speaker 5: ball coach.
Speaker 3: Ten yard coach, Yeah, fire tenured coach. There you go,
Speaker 3: the big ten. I got the big ten.
Speaker 5: I think the decision that they had for the suspension
Speaker 5: was hardball was a bad suspension. Either go all in
Speaker 5: or wait for everything else to play out, and again
Speaker 5: the bad I'm gonna go back, like I know, I'm
Speaker 5: going back.
Speaker 3: To old wounds here.
Speaker 5: But the referees against Michigan State against Nebraska, if they
Speaker 5: don't see this domino effect that they've now created. Nebraska's
Speaker 5: dropped two in a row, and I did think it
Speaker 5: started with the with the Zebras at Michigan State.
Speaker 3: So that's my bad.
Speaker 4: I do have Nebraska in the bad because dropping two
Speaker 4: in a row, and I feel I didn't put them
Speaker 4: the ugly for because they're not out of bowl season yet,
Speaker 4: but they had three tough games coming up.
Speaker 3: Two we have left left? Yeah, and who Wisconsin and
Speaker 3: Iowa and I think lost too to Northwestern over the weekend,
Speaker 3: did they minute? If Minnesota lost, then that means we
Speaker 3: still have everything out in front of us. Wait, no, no, no, Iowa?
Speaker 3: I would yeah, yeah, Iowa.
Speaker 4: If they dropped the next two though, and you guys
Speaker 4: went out and Minnesota did lose.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Who's Iowa is playing Illinois this week? Which Illinois
Speaker 5: has been playing some weirdly tough ball. Yeah yeah, Illinois
Speaker 5: beat Minnesota.
Speaker 3: You're right, we need Illinois, we need ILLINOI one too,
Speaker 3: but go ahead, go ahead with the uh.
Speaker 4: I put them in my last one only because, like
Speaker 4: I know, the expectation you have for your team was
Speaker 4: set at nine and three.
Speaker 3: Nine were a floor of seven and five, but my
Speaker 3: prediction was nine and three and I feel.
Speaker 4: Like just the goal of getting out of the you know,
Speaker 4: shitty football talk of Nebraska, just get bowl eligible and
Speaker 4: then it's like you've got that monkey off your back.
Speaker 4: You can keep moving and then look on the hot,
Speaker 4: better things going into the rural area. So that's why
Speaker 4: they're in my bad and not not the ugly yet
Speaker 4: because if they lose next week, it's like, oh shit,
Speaker 4: we gotta be a rival who you can just beat
Speaker 4: last year just to make a bowl game. The bad
Speaker 4: lack of sleep this weekend. There was a lot of
Speaker 4: moving parts from Thursday to get into Sunday. That was
Speaker 4: just it was just a lot of no sleep people
Speaker 4: who towed trailers fifteen miles an hour under the speed limit.
Speaker 3: I was almo.
Speaker 4: I was technically late to putting my kids to bring
Speaker 4: my kids to school today, but the line was a
Speaker 4: little long to drop off, so I actually ended up
Speaker 4: making it. But there was there's a level as a
Speaker 4: father when you're driving your kids to school and you
Speaker 4: take pride. I have a great streak going when I
Speaker 4: drive my kids to school of getting them there on
Speaker 4: time and dangling moving around a lot of one lanes. Also,
Speaker 4: and that was that that guy that sat in front
Speaker 4: of me, almost ruined my streak. My daughter, she was
Speaker 4: fighting tooth and nail not to just put some some ug,
Speaker 4: sparkly ug boots on this morning.
Speaker 3: And it's like, just put the shoes on.
Speaker 4: It's all good, Like no one's gonna care, like it's
Speaker 4: I wish you knew how not big of a deal
Speaker 4: this was.
Speaker 3: Then my last one was was Nebraska.
Speaker 4: But a little bit of a fight this morning, A
Speaker 4: little bit of a struggle, a power struggle this morning
Speaker 4: with my three year old daughter. We ended up winning
Speaker 4: the battle, and I feel real good about it. They
Speaker 4: were stoked to see dad because I know last week
Speaker 4: I tweeted about how they want mommy to put them asleep.
Speaker 4: They want mommy to put them sleep. I get home,
Speaker 4: I say, hey, who's putting you guys asleep tonight? They
Speaker 4: both screamed daddy. So that was we're looking up in
Speaker 4: the family category, right, we are looking up.
Speaker 11: Yeah, as someone who doesn't have kids, do you want
Speaker 11: to be the one put in your daughter sleep? Or
Speaker 11: is it more just like it feels good that your
Speaker 11: daughter wants you to be the last one to see
Speaker 11: you before.
Speaker 4: You want them to want you to put them asleep,
Speaker 4: because sometimes it can be I don't know how it
Speaker 4: is for Rue, but for my kids, win's pluck and play.
Speaker 3: We know what our things are.
Speaker 4: She does her thing, Hey, no fuss and a night
Speaker 4: she goes, you got it, daddy, love you see you later.
Speaker 3: Willow.
Speaker 4: You're kind of in this three year old war right
Speaker 4: now where she's testing boundaries and it takes a solid
Speaker 4: forty five minutes just to put her to sleep. And
Speaker 4: that's with negotiations, that's with mental fortitude. That's her and
Speaker 4: I going back and forth.
Speaker 9: What does she negotia like?
Speaker 8: What does she want?
Speaker 4: She does everything to play the game longer. And this
Speaker 4: is a big one she does right now, is we
Speaker 4: go potty before bed, and then I get her dressed.
Speaker 4: We read the book, We snug. We do like our
Speaker 4: little thing. Because you want to keep the routine set
Speaker 4: with them all the time, keeping the same routine so
Speaker 4: they can feel some sort of stability when you go
Speaker 4: to bed.
Speaker 3: Jordan Peterson talks about.
Speaker 4: That, but she's been doing this shit lately where you
Speaker 4: put the pajamas on her and you get ready for bed,
Speaker 4: and you go to put her in.
Speaker 3: Her crip and she goes, Daddy, I have to go poop.
Speaker 4: And it's so frustrating because now I have to take
Speaker 4: off the footy pajamas, which is a onesie, put her
Speaker 4: on there, and then she wants to fuck around for
Speaker 4: ten minutes and then finally she does it, and you're like, well,
Speaker 4: at least you know I let her what it felt bad.
Speaker 4: But there's a couple times here and there where she's dying. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she lets that a couple of toots and she's like,
Speaker 4: I'm good, and I'm just like, all right, let's go
Speaker 4: to bed. And you got to pick them up little
Speaker 4: more aggressive than you usually do.
Speaker 5: I can grab and shake him up, all right, Daddy
Speaker 5: almost fell, Daddy tripped.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you don't know where the cameras are. So
Speaker 4: that's a bit of a it's a hassle right now.
Speaker 4: And I think right when they get around two years
Speaker 4: old is when you when they finally figure out like,
Speaker 4: oh I can I can fuck around a little bit
Speaker 4: and make another twenty thirty minutes out of this thing.
Speaker 3: Hang out. Yeah, Well we'll see with all Rue Like
Speaker 3: Rue is, she's more pro mom.
Speaker 5: I'm putting her to bed, like we'll set her down
Speaker 5: once we brush her teeth and do all that stuff,
Speaker 5: and we're going over uh, and she sees Daddy sitting
Speaker 5: in the chair. She'll just look at look at me
Speaker 5: and go, uh bye bye bye bye o. And I'm like, hey, sweetheart,
Speaker 5: it's it's daddy's stern to night.
Speaker 3: No bye bye, no mama. She kind of does the
Speaker 3: water over to mom.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But the wind for my for Charle and I is
Speaker 5: my routine goes faster with Rue. That is jars up there.
Speaker 5: She's in the room longer because I don't know. I
Speaker 5: don't know how jaw runs the operation. I am familiar
Speaker 5: with it a little bit, but to me, like Rue
Speaker 5: doesn't get She'll be like book book that we're not
Speaker 5: reading the night.
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. We don't do that once we read,
Speaker 3: And then she points and wants to go to the crib.
Speaker 5: And then she tries to finesse me by being like,
Speaker 5: you know, you want another hug, sweetheart, And so I
Speaker 5: pick her up and kind of rock her, and then
Speaker 5: she'll point to the rocking chair again.
Speaker 3: And then once I go to the rocking chair, once
Speaker 3: I sit there, then.
Speaker 5: She'll try to be like book book like, no, sweetheart,
Speaker 5: no more book, it's quiet time now. We gotta ready
Speaker 5: for bed, and so I'll just hum and kind of
Speaker 5: do my little songs to her until she's like, all right, time.
Speaker 3: For bed, and then I put her down. We're gold
Speaker 3: you dip. Yeah good.
Speaker 5: It's a good probably twenty fifteen twenty minute tops, that's solid.
Speaker 3: But I am starting to experience the rue wanting mom.
Speaker 4: Over dad, and it's hard because it does you like
Speaker 4: you can look at it and be like I get it,
Speaker 4: but then and you'll understand it, and then a couple
Speaker 4: of times later you'll be like, man, that does I
Speaker 4: wish they kind of just want to hail me a
Speaker 4: little bit more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: So you catch yourself doing a little bit more fun
Speaker 4: stuff when discipline happens, like hey, honey wants go ahead
Speaker 4: and handle that, and it works.
Speaker 3: That actually works, by the way, that's listening.
Speaker 4: You want to get up her hand, make your wife
Speaker 4: discipline a couple more times, and then the fun be
Speaker 4: like I don't know what she's beat on crazy for,
Speaker 4: Like you guys are awesome, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Let me out a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but we were on the ops in the
Speaker 4: little one household as far as that's concerned.
Speaker 3: So you h ugly Uh. The only ugly I had
Speaker 3: was Texas A and M, which we hit on. And
Speaker 3: I'm having to hit that buy out.
Speaker 5: By the way, the guy flexing that dollar amount one
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy something million dollars for that giveaway, that
Speaker 5: big check on the field.
Speaker 3: What a way to show your balls of how much
Speaker 3: money Texas A and M has?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: A question I did have. Do we think Urban Meyer
Speaker 3: goes to A and M. That'd be cool? You don't
Speaker 3: think so. You don't think he gets out of the
Speaker 3: You think he's just you don't think he'll get that itch.
Speaker 5: Part of me is like, this is Urban Meyer. He's
Speaker 5: like one of those obsessed football coaches. He loves to win.
Speaker 5: He's a competitor. I think you just feel like he
Speaker 5: has that spirit that will eventually bring him back into
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 4: And money talks, and if you're able to do a
Speaker 4: seventy million dollar buyout, yeah they can be they Hey,
Speaker 4: naming your price. We've seen the product literally Florida Championships,
Speaker 4: Ohio state championships. Yeah, it's like proofs in the pudding.
Speaker 4: And you bought up some good points before we came on.
Speaker 4: The show comes into a solid roster, solid foundation, great
Speaker 4: fan base in il, money out the ass at the ass.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna do whoever you want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can run that operation. He can be that.
Speaker 3: He could be that guy.
Speaker 5: He really knows like all head coaches heavy egos all so,
Speaker 5: the majority of people in sports heavy egos. But we
Speaker 5: know it being on film and the resume of Urban
Speaker 5: and all the stories. He's got a huge ego.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: So I think he'll I think he'll come around once
Speaker 5: he gets bored with all this all this mainstream TV
Speaker 5: stuff that he does.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Michigan State's been calling for Urban Meyer forever.
Speaker 4: They don't have I don't think they have the funds
Speaker 4: to get him.
Speaker 3: No, they don't have the team. Like you know, that's
Speaker 3: not a situation.
Speaker 5: He's not trying to rebuild anything in a really bad spot,
Speaker 5: right Yeah, Michigan States, they're in a very very.
Speaker 4: Tough Spotot, I'll go quick with my ugly Titans. It's
Speaker 4: just it's just hard right now.
Speaker 3: Is it over? Season over?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not, it's never. I mean him, bring up
Speaker 4: the schedule. Yeah, we can do the schedule. Every team
Speaker 4: that's favorited here. We should pick Titans to win.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think that'll be.
Speaker 4: I mean, they beat the Panthers, they could beat the Colts,
Speaker 4: they could they could beat beat.
Speaker 3: That's a tough tough yeah.
Speaker 11: Left is literally AFC South games, two teams that are
Speaker 11: are good.
Speaker 3: Now, Jack, I will ask you and not put Taylor
Speaker 3: in the spot, thank you?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Do you hope the Titans lose out so the draft
Speaker 3: pick is higher?
Speaker 11: That's like such a tough answer because as a fan
Speaker 11: you never want to like prey on a loss. But strategically,
Speaker 11: looking forward, I don't think people are gonna be upset
Speaker 11: if we like are losing out, But I would never
Speaker 11: like if we saw the Titans went out right now,
Speaker 11: it'd be awesome.
Speaker 9: I'd be ecstatic. I don't want to see little losses.
Speaker 11: But at the end of in two and a half months,
Speaker 11: when the season's over, these losses don't mean as much
Speaker 11: when you have a much higher draft.
Speaker 3: Stock based on the product you've seen.
Speaker 5: It's almost like, we just gotta get we gotta get
Speaker 5: a line great, let's get a high let's get a
Speaker 5: high draft pick.
Speaker 11: We gotta get some linemen that are gonna go the distance.
Speaker 11: The protection is so scary right now, and like, if
Speaker 11: we don't get that you know put in place. We're
Speaker 11: just gonna continue to be in this like lull of
Speaker 11: eight and eight type mentality, and we'd.
Speaker 9: Be lucky to be eight and a this year. I
Speaker 9: don't even know if it's possible, And so I don't
Speaker 9: want a tank.
Speaker 3: But the next one at Jacksonville's tough.
Speaker 9: Yeah, at Jacksonville.
Speaker 11: Be in the season in Nashville with Jacksonville Texans almost
Speaker 11: back to back with Seahawks.
Speaker 9: Scary, scary hours, the witching hours here for the Titans.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna have a.
Speaker 9: Really good I'm gonna have a really good December. Doesn't
Speaker 9: matter what my teams are doing. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 9: a little love life, love life.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a good month and a half for
Speaker 4: you to flex. There's new tools you've developed, Yes, so
Speaker 4: I'm happy for you.
Speaker 3: Are you proud of yourself for leaving the old line
Speaker 3: in such disarray? Yes? No, that's great. Yeah, And we
Speaker 3: get Ben Jones on here too.
Speaker 5: Are you guys proud of the fact that you love
Speaker 5: this team in such disarray on the offensive line?
Speaker 4: Man, it is tough. I saw a couple of clips
Speaker 4: because obviously all the two birthday parties. I was out
Speaker 4: yesterday after that long travel day.
Speaker 11: The dads are like, man, you suiting back up shuts
Speaker 11: like titans.
Speaker 3: Huh oh, they'll be all right. That's always my answer
Speaker 3: I go to it'll be fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, either way one way or another. But yeah, man,
Speaker 4: that's uh, that's tough. Should we get into the Steve
Speaker 4: O podcast.
Speaker 3: I have one more question for you. Yeah, do you
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Speaker 4: O podcast is coming up next. It's an hour and
Speaker 4: a half long, I think hour and fifty minutes long.
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Speaker 5: Was truly like meeting one of your heroes. You grew
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Speaker 5: his situation, what they've gone through, his process of help,
Speaker 5: trying to help Bam since he's battled addiction for so long.
Speaker 4: We tour his house and obviously there's a loogout on that.
Speaker 4: It's truly this for me was like a holy shit moment.
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Speaker 3: With Steve O.
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Busts with
Speaker 4: the Boys. I am absolutely privileged to be sitting with
Speaker 4: you here today. I need to tell you a story
Speaker 4: before we get into Our guest is the legendary Steve
Speaker 4: O from Jackass, from Wild Boys, from having a rap career,
Speaker 4: from doing comedy. The man fucking does it all? Dude,
Speaker 4: does it all?
Speaker 8: You want to be.
Speaker 2: Careful about dropping f bombs at the very top of it.
Speaker 8: That can get that can get your uh yeah, dude.
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of bus with
Speaker 4: the Boys. We have with us the amazing see the
Speaker 4: awesome Steve O, Jackass, Wild boys rapper does it all man,
Speaker 4: and I I do have to tell you this real
Speaker 4: quick before we start.
Speaker 3: I was in a situation. I was a UFC two ninety.
Speaker 4: I grew up a massive fan of Jackass, and sitting
Speaker 4: in front of me was Johnny Knoxville and I, dude.
Speaker 3: I literally sat there and I was like, Bro, that's fun.
Speaker 3: That's Johnny.
Speaker 4: I got I but I have a weird thing about
Speaker 4: giving people flowers like that in public because then you
Speaker 4: don't know how he's gonna react or all that. He
Speaker 4: said like he was having the next time with his lady.
Speaker 4: I missed it on the opportunity. So here I am
Speaker 4: sitting with you being like, dude, you shape my childhood. Okay,
Speaker 4: for the better or for the worst, I don't know,
Speaker 4: but you did it.
Speaker 8: Right now. Was the BMF one in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 4: That was Las Vegas with who was a valcon Volkanovski.
Speaker 4: It was uh National Fight Week. Yeah it was awesome, dude,
Speaker 4: but you.
Speaker 2: I forget where I was, but I certainly watched it.
Speaker 2: And Knoxville's a prank panel promo was strong.
Speaker 3: Strong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a strong promo. I reached out to congratulating.
Speaker 2: I was in England. Still, I reached out and said, hey,
Speaker 2: knox congrats on your promo for the prank panel on
Speaker 2: the UFC. It looked great, and check out my press
Speaker 2: And I was forwarding him from my publicist all of
Speaker 2: the press that I got for jumping off the tower
Speaker 2: of London Bridge. Yeah, and I mean there was a
Speaker 2: lot of it. I haven't scored a publicity jackpot like
Speaker 2: that in quite some time. And Knoxville wrote back, he said,
Speaker 2: thanks for the congrats, and thanks especially for sending me.
Speaker 2: For compiling all forty nine of these press links, you
Speaker 2: saved me a lot of work. Like this running joke
Speaker 2: that knox Oe would be mortified to ever like share
Speaker 2: a link to his press with anybody that's just not
Speaker 2: in his DNA.
Speaker 8: And that's one hundred percent who I am.
Speaker 4: Yeah have you Has that become you over the years
Speaker 4: or I've always been Yeah, dude, Yeah, there's nothing wrong
Speaker 4: with being an attention whore, Like you're sitting next to
Speaker 4: one right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, can we agree that attention is the
Speaker 2: single most valuable commodity known to.
Speaker 4: Man, especially at this day and age, no question about it.
Speaker 2: It has been like, uh, if there was a graph
Speaker 2: to show the value of attention of it.
Speaker 8: It has just done a hockey.
Speaker 4: Stick, yeah, or ramp like you have in your backyard
Speaker 4: right now, for sure, dude. It's it's wild seeing like
Speaker 4: the dynamic between all of you growing up and where
Speaker 4: you guys are are all at Now do you.
Speaker 3: Want to keep doing more stuff?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: How long do you want to keep doing this gnarly shit?
Speaker 2: I certainly have a finite time for the really high
Speaker 2: impact stuff.
Speaker 8: I've just taped.
Speaker 2: A comedy special, which I believe you guys are holding
Speaker 2: this episode to promote, and by the way, thank you
Speaker 2: for even considering doing that. Possibly my bucket list special
Speaker 2: is already available as we're you know, in the future
Speaker 2: when this comes out. But the bucket list, I got
Speaker 2: real high impact. I got real life threatening, like heavy stunts, man,
Speaker 2: that would never have been allowed on Jackass.
Speaker 8: I properly raised the bar.
Speaker 2: Five people passed out in the audience at the taping
Speaker 2: of No Way. Yeah, I mean that's not even unusual
Speaker 2: at all, Like we always had people pass out in
Speaker 2: the audience, like we average a dude per night, for sure,
Speaker 2: we just have to five of them pass out at
Speaker 2: the first show of the taping. Three passed out at
Speaker 2: the second show of the taping. But yeah, it's it's heavy,
Speaker 2: intense stuff. And now I'm putting together the follow up
Speaker 2: to the bucket list and that is even more high impact.
Speaker 2: And after that, I don't know, I don't know, you
Speaker 2: have to gone too far to it might be uh
Speaker 2: gone too far. There might be the Swan song for
Speaker 2: for really beating myself up. And if that's the case,
Speaker 2: that's fine because I've really uh kind of diversified and
Speaker 2: my different ways of seeking intention, you know, like maybe
Speaker 2: a podcast, you know, maybe podcasting is going very well
Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, uh, YouTube is going very well for me.
Speaker 2: Stand up is going very well for me. And it
Speaker 2: doesn't always have to be this multimedia affair with me
Speaker 2: beating myself up.
Speaker 8: For now, I love it, but yeah, who knows.
Speaker 4: But when you do like wild Ride, looking at the
Speaker 4: like wild Ride, your your podcast, you sitting there, the
Speaker 4: budget is not near what a multimedia All the stuff
Speaker 4: you were doing like that's low risk and you still
Speaker 4: get some reward out of that. This is this is
Speaker 4: that big boom like you you gave us seven minutes
Speaker 4: of that and the intro is incredible. I don't want
Speaker 4: to say too much about because I want people to
Speaker 4: go see it. I don't want to like give away anything.
Speaker 8: I'm not too precious.
Speaker 2: About letting people know what my creative is because number one,
Speaker 2: there there's nobody in the world who's gonna copy or
Speaker 2: steal my ideas, because there's nobody willing to do them.
Speaker 2: And number two, even if you know what happened, like
Speaker 2: you know, seeing it is a wildly different story. And
Speaker 2: and and I've always made a very big deal out
Speaker 2: of opening sequences, you know, certainly with Jackass, we've always
Speaker 2: made a big deal out of it. My last comedy special,
Speaker 2: which was multimedia like It, features the worst injury, by far,
Speaker 2: the most painful.
Speaker 8: Experience I've ever been through.
Speaker 2: For the opening sequence to that comedy special, I was
Speaker 2: duct taped to a billboard truck and driven down the
Speaker 2: highway to Denver. Candidly, we pieced it together. I was
Speaker 2: genuinely driven duct taped to the side of a billboard
Speaker 2: truck from La to Vegas. Once it got dark, we
Speaker 2: took me down and then we picked up the rest
Speaker 2: of the Colorado footage, you know, piece by piece. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean Knoxill was hitting baseballs at me. After duct
Speaker 2: taping me to the side of a billboard trug. It
Speaker 2: was rad so I needed to outdo that with the
Speaker 2: opening sequence to.
Speaker 8: The bucket List Special.
Speaker 2: And I just sapped me and I wanted to find
Speaker 2: me on the roof of a building, you know, a
Speaker 2: helicopter above me, drop a rope ladder and I grabbed
Speaker 2: the rope ladder and get flown all around, dangling from
Speaker 2: a rope ladder from a helicopter, get through a bunch
Speaker 2: of crazy stuff and end up dropping from the rope
Speaker 2: ladder onto the roof of my moving tour bus as
Speaker 2: an exercise and delivering me to the theater. And uh yeah,
Speaker 2: And it was ambitious, it was expensive, it was dangerous,
Speaker 2: particularly the part where I dropped from the rope ladder
Speaker 2: onto the roof of the moving tour bus. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: that's just sketchy, man, there's no way around that.
Speaker 8: And uh we made it happened, dude.
Speaker 4: When you do that type of intro, is it one
Speaker 4: of those things where like, are you get picked up
Speaker 4: by the individual who's flying the helicopters is also a treat?
Speaker 4: Then you go do this, then you dip in the pond,
Speaker 4: then you or you do that all in one film.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was all like like, uh not not one take.
Speaker 2: There was we were you know like uh, last week
Speaker 2: through the Lake and then reset and last week through
Speaker 2: the electrical wires and then reset and then Yeah.
Speaker 4: A lot of times people when they have a thing
Speaker 4: like you you had Jackass before that was Big Brother,
Speaker 4: and then it evolved into everything that it became once
Speaker 4: it came to an end, and you did obviously Jackass
Speaker 4: four just a few years ago. You've done an amazing
Speaker 4: job of pivoting and rerouting, finding ways to in our
Speaker 4: in our words, seek attention and find new ways to
Speaker 4: you know, keep building on this brand that you have.
Speaker 4: What was what was your process to find podcasting, to
Speaker 4: find doing the bucket list and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, first job, thank you for that. I appreciate that
Speaker 2: a lot. And uh, with respect to kind of evolving
Speaker 2: and and uh, it's not been something that was that
Speaker 2: that was since the last Jackass movie it uh.
Speaker 8: And I was more shocked than anybody.
Speaker 2: That there was a fourth Jackass movie in the cards,
Speaker 2: I mean legitimately, like I would I would have bet
Speaker 2: the farm that the jet that the ship had sailed
Speaker 2: like for Knoxo to come out of the woodwork ten
Speaker 2: years after the fact and be like I'm ready to
Speaker 2: go again.
Speaker 8: And I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: But of course I was open to it, particularly because
Speaker 2: I had stayed so active for.
Speaker 8: Those whole ten years.
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, there's like, we don't have
Speaker 2: to test me, Like I know that I still have
Speaker 2: this in me because I've kept my doing dumb stuff
Speaker 2: muscles very strong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my dumb stuff muscles.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, and and you know, I even said,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, guys, like, uh, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be doing this stuff putting it on YouTube anyway.
Speaker 8: You know, I might as well do it for a movie.
Speaker 8: It was a no brainer.
Speaker 2: And you know, here we sit in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, like it's been ten years. It
Speaker 2: was twenty thirteen that I went on YouTube. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: so back in twenty thirteen, like multiple people said, man,
Speaker 2: you really to get on YouTube, you really got to
Speaker 2: start a podcast. And when I first heard it, I thought, man, God,
Speaker 2: I've been in like a few number one theatrical you know,
Speaker 2: box office movies, Like I've had like TV shows with
Speaker 2: my name in the title, Like I'm a bonafide TV
Speaker 2: and film star, Like you're talking to me about uploading
Speaker 2: YouTube videos, Like, man, that's a really uh.
Speaker 3: Depressing ego.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was tough for me to swallow the idea
Speaker 2: at the time, Like, uh, I didn't think there was money,
Speaker 2: and I like, you know what upload YouTube videos?
Speaker 8: Like uh, you know, I just it felt like something
Speaker 8: that you know, my ego told me it was beneath me.
Speaker 8: But like I did it anyway.
Speaker 2: You know, I did it anyway because I had been
Speaker 2: trying at that point in twenty thirteen to pitch a
Speaker 2: new TV show. Nobody cared about it. At the last
Speaker 2: TV show that I'd had, like I got replaced, you know,
Speaker 2: this killer karaoke show. That same year, twenty thirteen, Knoxville
Speaker 2: was making Bad Grandpa, which was under the Jackass banner,
Speaker 2: and it was like we didn't even know what it
Speaker 2: was particularly it was we were just like, wait, hold
Speaker 2: on a second, knox Hill was making a jackass movie
Speaker 2: without any of us, Like we got straight timberlaked over here.
Speaker 2: You know, now we're the Jackson four, Like I'm the
Speaker 2: fucking Tito over here, like and it was just a
Speaker 2: really dark time and I was super super in a
Speaker 2: dark place, and I just you know, learned how to end.
Speaker 2: My buddy Sam mccroney taught me how to edit. I
Speaker 2: just made YouTube videos, not because I thought that it
Speaker 2: was gonna be a like a viable like way to
Speaker 2: make money, but just I did it just try to
Speaker 2: keep my sanity. And the way that I went about
Speaker 2: getting on YouTube was like pretty highly strategic.
Speaker 8: There were at the time.
Speaker 2: YouTube pranks were like the biggest phenomenon you had, Like
Speaker 2: these guys Vitally and Roman Atwood, like clocking five million
Speaker 2: views every time, you know, and both Vitally and roman Atwood,
Speaker 2: you know, they they were they were excited to help
Speaker 2: me because they were fans of Jackass, but the position
Speaker 2: that they were in on YouTube was way, you know,
Speaker 2: like we were like we were like mutually like super
Speaker 2: excited to work with each other.
Speaker 8: And I was starting at zero and and and when.
Speaker 2: I uploaded my first I uploaded two YouTube videos the
Speaker 2: same time to launch the channel.
Speaker 8: Video drove traffic to the other.
Speaker 2: And I collabed with both Roman Attwood and Vitally, and
Speaker 2: both of their channels drove traffic to each of my videos,
Speaker 2: which drove traffic to each other. So it was highly coordinated,
Speaker 2: and I landed on YouTube like I think in twenty
Speaker 2: four hours, I had one hundred and twenty five thousand subscribers.
Speaker 3: Nuts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had like, you know, hundreds of thousands of views,
Speaker 2: maybe like two hundred thousand views on each video, and
Speaker 2: like they were like USA today, I think wrote an
Speaker 2: article about how I landed on YouTube, like with such
Speaker 2: a crazy splash and all of a sudden, you know.
Speaker 2: I at the time, I was touring comedy clubs and
Speaker 2: I was still very green in that department. There was
Speaker 2: no indication that I would have any staying power on
Speaker 2: the comedy circuit, and I only had agency representation for
Speaker 2: comedy club touring period. But once I landed on YouTube,
Speaker 2: I got like my lawyer's reaching out. Hey, I'm hearing
Speaker 2: from every like one of the big agencies. They're really dying,
Speaker 2: They're clamoring to represent you in the digital department, you know,
Speaker 2: and like huh, you know, and like some taking meetings.
Speaker 8: I'm getting new agents. The agent I went with.
Speaker 2: Was like, Hey, I can get you on a plane
Speaker 2: to Atlanta to be in a movie with Samuel L.
Speaker 8: Jackson tomorrow, you know, And I.
Speaker 2: Was like sure up, Yeah, as I've come to learn
Speaker 2: the like every every time an agent wants to sign
Speaker 2: with you, they always have a really exciting, compelling reason
Speaker 2: to sign with them.
Speaker 8: And as soon as you're signed.
Speaker 2: With them, they're done. You will lazily answer the phone if.
Speaker 8: It rings, Yeah, they will do nothing. Gotta hate agents.
Speaker 3: But are you your agent lists?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: How many just did it take to get through this way?
Speaker 2: And and my touring agent became a manager And now
Speaker 2: he's trying to tell me that I need an agent
Speaker 2: as well as him.
Speaker 8: And it's a tough one. It's a real tough one, man.
Speaker 2: It's it's a real tough one. But that's another story.
Speaker 2: And what I'm just saying is that getting on YouTube
Speaker 2: brought about a full like rebirth.
Speaker 8: Like a renaissance in my career.
Speaker 2: Like it made me go from like being in front
Speaker 2: of the camera and at mercy of corporate executives to
Speaker 2: do anything, to like in control of every move and
Speaker 2: and that was huge also at the time, this is
Speaker 2: the crazy part. On that comedy club tour, at the
Speaker 2: end of every show, I said, guys, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for giving me a chance at stand up comedy.
Speaker 8: And I want you to know now I am not going.
Speaker 2: To go anywhere or do anything until I take a
Speaker 2: photo with every single one of you guys is looking
Speaker 2: around the room, And so I would do a meet
Speaker 2: and greet with the entire audience after every single show.
Speaker 2: I did that for eleven years. In the beginning, it
Speaker 2: was for two reasons. Number one, like people were pleasantly
Speaker 2: surprised they'd come to see me in a comedy club
Speaker 2: with just no idea, the lowest expectations you could possibly
Speaker 2: imagine for a stand up show, and they would be
Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised. Well, STEVEO was a lot better than I thought,
Speaker 2: And I wanted every single one of those people to
Speaker 2: go home with a photo with me so that they
Speaker 2: could post it on their social media and let their following. No, man,
Speaker 2: STEVEO was a lot better than I thought. You know,
Speaker 2: like Stebo, comedy is not a bad gig. And I
Speaker 2: think that that sort of grassroots approached to getting the
Speaker 2: word out that you know, I was doing comedy and
Speaker 2: I was doing it reasonably well, like, helped me keep
Speaker 2: going around the circuit. And the other reason I did
Speaker 2: those meet and greets was it was like a glorified
Speaker 2: audition to find out like who I.
Speaker 8: Would act out sexually with that night, you know.
Speaker 2: Like every night, Like it was like it was really
Speaker 2: really intense, how.
Speaker 8: Egregious, just how.
Speaker 2: Out of control like I was as a sex addict,
Speaker 2: you know, like I had gotten a chemical sobriety, like
Speaker 2: pretty stable. I was clean, clean and sober for a
Speaker 2: number of years, and.
Speaker 8: It just all like it was like whackable.
Speaker 2: I just like with the acting out sexually, it was gnarmally.
Speaker 2: And it was twenty thirteen, that same dark year, you know,
Speaker 2: so I had like I'm in this dark place. I'm
Speaker 2: you know, I'm the Jackson.
Speaker 8: For I got. I know, like I'm over, I'm done
Speaker 8: with ah, you know, and I'm just like acting out.
Speaker 8: So I h you know, I thought I subscribed.
Speaker 2: To the idea that for me to like have a
Speaker 2: good future, like good back nine, that I needed to
Speaker 2: learn how to be in a healthy relationship and have
Speaker 2: a life partner who could help me weather the horrible
Speaker 2: like scary becoming an aging attention wor you know, like
Speaker 2: and and I'm not gonna act out anymore. I promised myself,
Speaker 2: no more fooling around on the road. And I just
Speaker 2: couldn't do it. Man, I just cracked every time started
Speaker 2: seeing a sex therapists, you know, sex addiction therapist. He
Speaker 2: talked to me into going into sex addict rehab, like
Speaker 2: I did the whole thing man, and in sex addict rehab, they.
Speaker 8: Were like, oh, well, like what woul did the like
Speaker 8: what most like it is most.
Speaker 2: Recommended is a period of total celibacy, like you don't like, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, like Elvis does not leave the building. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not on your own, not anything, and that that's like
Speaker 2: a way to like kind of rewire your brain kind of.
Speaker 8: And I'm like such a gnarly dude with everything I do.
Speaker 2: You know. They recommended like thirty to ninety days of celibacy,
Speaker 2: and I did not blow aload for four hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty one days, no.
Speaker 8: Shit, straight up.
Speaker 2: I just made it into a stunt, you know. I
Speaker 2: was like and then the whole rest of that tour
Speaker 2: became you know, like every show, I'd be like, I
Speaker 2: am blown alad in this, you know, yeah, and uh god,
Speaker 2: I was irritable.
Speaker 4: But like that that I was irritable ninety days of
Speaker 4: just angry, horny dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not blow aload for the entire year
Speaker 2: of twenty fourteen. And for not blowing alad that entire year. Dude,
Speaker 2: I was a laser, Like I was a grumpy laser.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I was a grumpy laser.
Speaker 2: And I just pour like I started the year of
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, I think, with less than a million Facebook followers,
Speaker 2: and I ended the year of twenty fourteen with more
Speaker 2: than six million Facebook emotions, like I was the most
Speaker 2: productive animal. And again I started YouTube in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: So twenty fourteen, I was just that was the year
Speaker 2: that I went digital.
Speaker 4: You know, And and I focusing that nut. Man, that
Speaker 4: thing was going nowhere. All that power went through your brain.
Speaker 8: All of that power went into work, you know.
Speaker 2: And you know, and I heard like a lot of people,
Speaker 2: you know, talking about finding the right person to settle
Speaker 2: down with. It's not find the right person, dude, it's
Speaker 2: become the right person. You know. Yeah, attract people who
Speaker 2: are as healthy emotionally mentally as we are. It's like like, uh,
Speaker 2: water meets the same level of water, you know, Like
Speaker 2: we attract the people who are as healthy as we are,
Speaker 2: and if we'd become healthy, we attract healthy. And now
Speaker 2: I'm engaged to be married, and I put in the work,
Speaker 2: and I still don't have the distractions of chasing pussy around,
Speaker 2: Like I don't have the distractions of being wasted drinking
Speaker 2: and doing drugs.
Speaker 8: Like I literally don't.
Speaker 2: Waste time, you know, Like I don't waste time on shit,
Speaker 2: Like I'm pretty largely always just laser focused on what
Speaker 2: I want to accomplish. And now I've got this great
Speaker 2: life partner who helps me accomplish things.
Speaker 8: So like it's pretty gnarly.
Speaker 4: You know, it's so awesome to hear that type of
Speaker 4: story because you hear so many times people like get
Speaker 4: into addictive personalities and before they can save themselves it's
Speaker 4: too late, and having addictive personality and being able to
Speaker 4: channel that and focus on something for the better, Like
Speaker 4: it's almost better to have it.
Speaker 3: Take the personality in a sex.
Speaker 4: It makes you like if you take the drugs and
Speaker 4: the sex and you just focus on what you've become
Speaker 4: so successful in, Like you're literally a story that every
Speaker 4: drug addict, every sex I can look at me like, oh,
Speaker 4: I could actually do this if I just focused this way.
Speaker 2: Right, and and uh, I'm going to push back. It's
Speaker 2: it's never too late, man, you know.
Speaker 3: It's I'm talking about too late, like passway or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: I mean the thing like, man, I feel.
Speaker 8: So strongly about this too, like.
Speaker 2: The luckiest, Like I'm the luckiest you can be.
Speaker 8: And I feel so strongly about this that.
Speaker 2: With with addiction, alcoholism, drug addiction, like addiction in general,
Speaker 2: it's the only disease where when you treat it, you
Speaker 2: become a better version of yourself than you were before
Speaker 2: you got sick. Any other disease, the best you can
Speaker 2: possibly hope or is to get back to as healthy.
Speaker 8: As you were.
Speaker 2: But we become improved versions of ourselves, like the sober alcoholics.
Speaker 8: Theatics, and.
Speaker 2: And I'm just profoundly grateful like me and sobriety, like
Speaker 2: say what you want people to be, Like, oh, dude,
Speaker 2: you were funnier on drugs, like number one, I was not,
Speaker 2: Like no, like I became fucking pathetic, like uh, you know, dude,
Speaker 2: Steve wasn't pussy now again not true, you know, Like
Speaker 2: I'm actually doing earlier things in sobriety than I ever
Speaker 2: did when I was loaded, Like and the reality is
Speaker 2: that I am running circles around every younger version of
Speaker 2: myself period and for sure, Yeah, and it's all because
Speaker 2: of sobriety.
Speaker 8: Totally.
Speaker 4: In those early days though of finding like realizing okay,
Speaker 4: I have to get sober, I feel like, well, a
Speaker 4: lot of people don't realize what's coming off something anything
Speaker 4: is the level of boredom you first received that first
Speaker 4: sixty days, ninety days, You're like, it's just not as fun,
Speaker 4: Like how did you kind of rapt that for yourself?
Speaker 3: Because you know, like we've all.
Speaker 4: Supposed to here have been high, and we sit there
Speaker 4: and you do things for a couple of weeks, and
Speaker 4: then you stop doing that thing for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 4: and then you sit there You're like, this would be
Speaker 4: a lot more fun if I could smoke weed, or
Speaker 4: if I could take this right kind of like that's
Speaker 4: how that's a game you tell yourself and then you
Speaker 4: play it in a mental warfare back and forth. I
Speaker 4: feel like a lot of people just can't see the
Speaker 4: other side of that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, And that's a common thing like that. There's
Speaker 2: there's the boredom thing. There's like the the creative thing.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I feel like I can't write great songs
Speaker 2: if I'm not loaded, or like you know, dude, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna lose my identity like, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of fear around all that. And I remember I don't
Speaker 2: even know what year it was, or what rehab or
Speaker 2: what like stage. And in BAM's you know, in his
Speaker 2: journey that that it was. But I remember Bam saying
Speaker 2: to me that, like, you know, man, I'm just like sobriety,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be boring, man, Like I don't want to
Speaker 2: be bored. It was the exact same thing.
Speaker 8: And I remember what I told him.
Speaker 2: I said, Dude, recovery from alcoholism, like getting into recovery.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like getting into a swimming pool. Is
Speaker 2: that everybody can relate to, Like thinking about getting in
Speaker 2: a swimming pool and dipping your toe in the water
Speaker 2: and your toe tells you that water's cold and.
Speaker 8: You don't want to get in.
Speaker 2: And if you think you're gonna go around to the
Speaker 2: shallow end and walk down the stairs, hold on, dude, Randy,
Speaker 2: Randy holds the work.
Speaker 3: We're recording.
Speaker 2: Hold the work. So okay, okay, I think I can
Speaker 2: give you a seamless edit right here to not have
Speaker 2: that happen.
Speaker 3: Oh that's staying in what he's done his home address
Speaker 3: after this, to hear about that right.
Speaker 2: Ah. Now, if you think you're gonna go walking down
Speaker 2: the stairs in the shallow end and gradually get into.
Speaker 8: The swimming pool, you're fooling yourself. It's never gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Like we all know that the way to get in
Speaker 2: that pool is to jump all the way into the
Speaker 2: deep end, and there's no way around it. When you
Speaker 2: land in that water, your first thought is, wow, it's cold.
Speaker 2: It's gonna shock your system, because you can't change your
Speaker 2: your environment without shocking the system. But we can all
Speaker 2: also relate to having jumped into the pool feeling it
Speaker 2: was cold that it's pretty quick. It's shockingly quick. How
Speaker 2: how fast you act to me? Like everybody can relate
Speaker 2: to me, And I can't believe it felt so cold
Speaker 2: like a moment ago, and now I'm.
Speaker 8: Perfectly comfortable in the pool. You know, in the pool,
Speaker 8: and you know it's like that.
Speaker 2: Like and you know with respect to oh, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be boring. It's pretty easy to jump in a pool
Speaker 2: when you're on fire. Yeah, you know, Like if you're
Speaker 2: on fire, you're not gonna have any issue jumping in
Speaker 2: the pool. You're not gonna care if it's cool, because
Speaker 2: you're not on fire anything, you know. And that's really
Speaker 2: like how it is. And that's that's why they say
Speaker 2: that people have to hit a rock bottom, because like
Speaker 2: rock bottom, like your life has to get bad enough that.
Speaker 8: You don't care that they're boring.
Speaker 2: Sounds great compared.
Speaker 8: To the hill that you're in. And that's why you
Speaker 8: know what it was for me, like.
Speaker 3: You know, like.
Speaker 2: Bored, sure, anything, but this, you know, when life gets
Speaker 2: so bad that you will welcome being bored is anything
Speaker 2: but as bad as it gets, then that that that
Speaker 2: is what rock bottom should be.
Speaker 8: Now, the problem with.
Speaker 2: This analogy, particularly as it relates to me telling it
Speaker 2: to Bam, is that we can all understand that he
Speaker 2: just cannot go around shoving people into pools and expecting
Speaker 2: them to thank you for it, let alone stay in,
Speaker 2: you know, Like and I tried to shove Bam in
Speaker 2: the pool man so many times, and he just doesn't
Speaker 2: want to be in the pool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you bring up a good point. I mean, Bam,
Speaker 4: obviously all this stuff going on.
Speaker 3: I heard his rap. It was bad, Let's be honest,
Speaker 3: it was really bad.
Speaker 4: I listened to it last night, like one in the morning,
Speaker 4: and I was like the best part was him basically
Speaker 4: like talking insulting you and we man about your skateboarding abilities.
Speaker 4: And then he also saying, l A, I love STEVEO,
Speaker 4: but st and like you see it. And I said,
Speaker 4: growing up as a fan, you don't expect when you
Speaker 4: watch Jackass for everybody to effort to work out, for
Speaker 4: everyone to be like, oh, these guys are gonna be
Speaker 4: just fine when it's d But seeing a guy like
Speaker 4: you with the story that you have and seeing hey,
Speaker 4: it is possible, at what point does BAM reach rock bottom?
Speaker 4: Because from the outside, from an outside perspective looking in
Speaker 4: as just a person watching on the internet, it seems
Speaker 4: like he's just got too many yes men around him
Speaker 4: where it's like, hey, you're gonna be all right, don't
Speaker 4: worry about this. Let Bam do what Bam does. And
Speaker 4: he's got enough people around him that's maybe writing a
Speaker 4: check that doesn't want to lose that free meal.
Speaker 2: It's so perplexing, man. And yes, when you say yes, man,
Speaker 2: like you're like the.
Speaker 8: By definition you're talking about enablers.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah, And it's true that most.
Speaker 2: People in active addiction can only stay an active addiction
Speaker 2: with enabling yeah you know. And it's such an insidious
Speaker 2: like disease that touches everybody close to the attict that
Speaker 2: everybody's sick, you know, and I really believe that that
Speaker 2: it is enabling at the highest levels that allowed BAM's
Speaker 2: situation to progress as far as it had.
Speaker 8: But with that said, man, I've.
Speaker 2: Been cleaning sober for over fifteen years, and you know,
Speaker 2: like I live in the world of recovery, and I
Speaker 2: don't think I've ever heard of a tougher case of
Speaker 2: somebody more belligerently resistant to the concept of recovery, someone
Speaker 2: who's spent. He calls it the Florida shuffle, like the
Speaker 2: Florida the Florida Shuffle, where like people are just recycling
Speaker 2: you through rehab centers and putting you back in and
Speaker 2: putting back into basically, I guess like it's some kind
Speaker 2: of a way to get insurance money.
Speaker 8: To pay for it.
Speaker 2: But regardless of the reason, the fact is Bam spent
Speaker 2: over a year. I mean, he's been in rehabs over
Speaker 2: and over, Like, he's been on a tour of rehabs
Speaker 2: and psych words and jails.
Speaker 8: For for years now.
Speaker 2: And he was purely in rehab from like more than
Speaker 2: a year and you know, still just doesn't like like
Speaker 2: uh get it. You know, you would think like like
Speaker 2: you did, what are they teach you in They're like
Speaker 2: you don't you know?
Speaker 8: But in any case, uh I I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know, like it needs to change the scenery.
Speaker 2: Well, there's been so many times where I saw his
Speaker 2: like the comedy club meltdown, like the doctor Phil, you know,
Speaker 2: business like the you know, like the each thing worse
Speaker 2: than the next, and I think like, okay, this is it,
Speaker 2: you know, I think, okay, this he's gotten bad enough
Speaker 2: for it like this, and it's not like it's just
Speaker 2: it just keeps getting crazier and craasier. And I don't
Speaker 2: know what it's going to take. Many maybe he's got
Speaker 2: to go broke. Most addicts have to lose everything.
Speaker 8: For me, it was just how like.
Speaker 2: Truly humiliated? I I humiliated myself into reasonableness like I
Speaker 2: was then I'm I'm a.
Speaker 8: Douche no matter what what.
Speaker 4: But how do you recognize being humiliated when you're as
Speaker 4: loaded as you say you were?
Speaker 2: Because I got and it's what a great question right there?
Speaker 2: I got locked up in a psychiatric word by Knoxville, Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was March ninth of two thousand and eight, and
Speaker 2: so my sobriety date is March tenth of two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight. We count our sobriety date as the first day.
Speaker 8: We didn't get loaded.
Speaker 2: And you know, I was locked up in there like
Speaker 2: when when when they got me to the psych word,
Speaker 2: Like god, I was an unlovely creature. I remember there
Speaker 2: was that they got me in the car and they
Speaker 2: cleverly showed up with like eight people from my intervention.
Speaker 2: So if I didn't want to go, like I was
Speaker 2: gonna go anyway like they and I've never been a fighter.
Speaker 8: So they got me in the car.
Speaker 2: They drove me to the Cedar Sinai Hospital for the
Speaker 2: psych ward. There the psych ward was ready to receive me,
Speaker 2: knowing that they had documented my qualification for California's fifty
Speaker 2: one fifty law, which is you can lock somebody up
Speaker 2: involuntarily for seventy two hours if they had presented.
Speaker 8: Threats to themselves or others.
Speaker 2: And they get me to the hospital, pull up to
Speaker 2: the curb and there's somebody waiting for me, like with
Speaker 2: a wheelchair for me to sit in the wheelchair and
Speaker 2: the wheel me into the hospital, Like I don't need
Speaker 2: a wheelchair, and I'm spit on the person, you know,
Speaker 2: like like like I'm at a point where like spitting
Speaker 2: on people was not unusual.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that was like, you know, no problem.
Speaker 4: I've been in a couple football games where some guys
Speaker 4: have received some saliva for me.
Speaker 3: A lot of backlash, a lot of backlash.
Speaker 2: I was, I was quick to spit on people, and
Speaker 2: you know when I went out, they were I had
Speaker 2: that I was sure I was going to calm like
Speaker 2: calmly talk my way out of this and that they
Speaker 2: weren't going to lock me up in the psyche cord.
Speaker 8: But like I was wrong about that.
Speaker 2: And as they're kind of processing me into the hospital,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm like no, but I know I'm gonna
Speaker 2: smoke a cigarette and like then I want to.
Speaker 8: Smoke a cigarette.
Speaker 2: No, Like you know, my next move is I'm gonna
Speaker 2: grab a chair and throw it in a temper tantrum
Speaker 2: and like I don't even get I don't even get
Speaker 2: a piece of furniture like off the ground before orderly
Speaker 2: is like just peer out of nowhere and just grab
Speaker 2: me and like slam me down on a table and
Speaker 2: I get a needle in my butt cheek and next
Speaker 2: thing you know, I'm just waking up from a nap.
Speaker 8: You know, I think.
Speaker 2: I remember when they slam around the table, They're like,
Speaker 2: mellow out or we're going to strap you down, and
Speaker 2: I'm like on the claustrophobic side.
Speaker 8: So I mellowed out.
Speaker 2: But like, but I got the Yeah, I got the
Speaker 2: booty juice, which is like, uh, they put the needle
Speaker 2: in your in your butt cheek and then and it's
Speaker 2: like a Seda tipkinda forget the name of it was
Speaker 2: something that I was looking into doing for a tranquilizer
Speaker 2: dart foot race.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of productive because it is a drug
Speaker 4: as well, right right right.
Speaker 2: I mean I ended up making it a general anesthesia
Speaker 2: bike ride, but that's in the bucket list special the
Speaker 2: anesthesia bike ride. But uh but yeah, so I wake
Speaker 2: up from the nap and the fifty one to fifty
Speaker 2: loss says you can be held in a psych ward
Speaker 2: against your world for seventy.
Speaker 8: Two hours, which is three days.
Speaker 2: But due to my belligerent behavior, they changed my status
Speaker 2: to fifty two point fifty, which is two weeks. And
Speaker 2: that was the saving grace because if they only had
Speaker 2: me for three days, I would have been right back
Speaker 2: to the drug dealer. But you know, a number of
Speaker 2: different things happened over the course of my first week
Speaker 2: in the psychiatric ward, where you know, I kind of
Speaker 2: a week was long enough for me to realize, Okay,
Speaker 2: I gotta do I gotta do this.
Speaker 4: And then next week was kind of just hey, I'm
Speaker 4: ready to go, and everyone's like, sure.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I was seventh. I think I was on
Speaker 2: the seventh day in the psych word, and I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, I gotta do this. But to your point,
Speaker 2: you know, how do you know that you're humiliated when
Speaker 2: you're that loaded. I didn't, you know, I didn't I
Speaker 2: recognize that I had to do this. But my best
Speaker 2: thinking at that point, what gave me the willingness to
Speaker 2: go to rehab was that, man, if I get so
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, if I get clean and sober, the world
Speaker 2: is kind of oh me, man, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be I'm gonna I'm gonna be h I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: a lot of good man, I'm gonna be like, my
Speaker 2: career is gonna go, you know, I'm gonna like, I'm
Speaker 2: just thinking I'm gonna get all this stuff out of it,
Speaker 2: like power and property and prestige, that the world is
Speaker 2: gonna shower me with cash and prizes if.
Speaker 8: I am noble enough to get sober.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like.
Speaker 8: And that the thing whatever it takes to get you
Speaker 8: in there and become willing.
Speaker 2: But what it was that that actually revealed how humiliated
Speaker 2: I was was this twelve step stuff, you know, like
Speaker 2: this twelve steps up where we do like an inventory
Speaker 2: about everything that bothers us, resentments, fears, you know, harmed
Speaker 2: on other's guilt and and and and we like break
Speaker 2: down each thing in this inventory to identify what our
Speaker 2: part is, and uh, you know how we created the problem,
Speaker 2: you know, how we're responsible for the mess and where
Speaker 2: can we take accountability? Where can we And it was
Speaker 2: like once I saw my part and that I was
Speaker 2: the reason for everything that was messed up in my life,
Speaker 2: like that's where the humiliation kicked in, and that's where
Speaker 2: the motivation to be sober went from all the cash
Speaker 2: and prizes I was going to get to I.
Speaker 8: Just don't want to be that douchebag anymore, you know,
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 2: I do not want to be that guy anymore and
Speaker 2: h and I started doing it for myself for the
Speaker 2: right reasons, and thank God, because there are no cash
Speaker 2: and prizes for just.
Speaker 8: Getting clean and sober.
Speaker 2: Like it was years that nobody gave a rat ass
Speaker 2: if I got clean, clean and sober. Now, like people
Speaker 2: think it's kind of cool, like, oh man, the way
Speaker 2: Steabo turns life around. But in the absence of productivity
Speaker 2: and giving people a reason to even contemplate my existence,
Speaker 2: nobody cares about cleaning sober.
Speaker 4: Because you could have just really sat around in this
Speaker 4: nice house and like, I'll fuck off, get fat and whatever.
Speaker 3: I'll skateboard on my cool ass ramp downstairs.
Speaker 2: This house didn't come along until twenty fourteen. I got
Speaker 2: sober in twenty I got sober in two thousand and eight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I bought this house in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3: So you did Jackass three?
Speaker 8: Comedy paid for this house?
Speaker 2: Dudu comedy comedy clubs paid for this house?
Speaker 4: Did you do Jackass three and four sober or just yeah,
Speaker 4: both three and four. So when you're first off, there's
Speaker 4: got I want to just I'll say one point about that.
Speaker 4: The last things we just talked about, like having the
Speaker 4: fear and anxiety of all the things you've done to
Speaker 4: the other people us be a horrible feeling, But on
Speaker 4: the flip side, what an incredible feeling it is to
Speaker 4: see all the things that have happened to you in
Speaker 4: your life, realizing it's you, and realizing how in control
Speaker 4: of your life you actually are. That is got to
Speaker 4: be one of the beautiful, most beautiful yin yangs you
Speaker 4: probably experienced throughout that process.
Speaker 8: It really takes a lot of.
Speaker 2: Of what am I trying to say, It gives me
Speaker 2: a lot of control. If you just look at your
Speaker 2: own side of the street, and if you just worry
Speaker 2: about what you can control, if you acknowledge that you
Speaker 2: cannot control other people places and things, and stop blaming
Speaker 2: other people places and things, and take responsibility for your
Speaker 2: own situation, that's it. I mean for Bam, that's his
Speaker 2: number one crux of his whole thing is that is
Speaker 2: that it's everybody else.
Speaker 8: It's never his fault, it's every's.
Speaker 2: He's just blaming everything on every It's knocks Mill and
Speaker 2: Tremaine and the bone spurs and you know, and Nikki
Speaker 2: and she drives me to drink, and it's everybody but
Speaker 2: Bam and and I really really, like I said, it's
Speaker 2: never too late. It's not too late for BAM. It's
Speaker 2: never too late. Like and if if just like a
Speaker 2: it would be like flipping a switch, It would be
Speaker 2: that simple as flipping a switch. If BAM could just
Speaker 2: like take accountability, you know, just stop blaming everybody else,
Speaker 2: you know, looking at your own side of the.
Speaker 8: Street, do the inventory work.
Speaker 4: Is the BAM thing as heavy on your heart as
Speaker 4: it seems sitting here with you for this past thirty minutes.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's pretty gnarly, man.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of your closest friends for so long.
Speaker 8: I mean.
Speaker 2: He's family. No, and uh, it's crazy. It's just it's
Speaker 2: gotten to a really really serious level.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially when you get into your filming back as
Speaker 4: four and I don't know all the details with him
Speaker 4: essentially not being able to be part of it.
Speaker 2: When Jackus four came up, I thought, wow, it's crazy
Speaker 2: Knox wants to do another Jackass movie. But like I'd
Speaker 2: been saying, like, you know, the BAM's not in a
Speaker 2: place where we can really do that. I was thinking that,
Speaker 2: you know, and they were like, oh, well, I think
Speaker 2: they viewed it as like as a kind of a
Speaker 2: last attempt to help Bam. It's like, all right, we're
Speaker 2: gonna we'll make a movie and if they'll give him
Speaker 2: the chance, yeah, Like and that's how gnarly the the
Speaker 2: disease of alcoholism is. It's so gnarly that you can
Speaker 2: give somebody like a guarantee of millions of dollars and
Speaker 2: even that it's not enough to get not enough.
Speaker 4: It's over sitting pissing a cup when you were when
Speaker 4: you were working through your sobriety and you go from
Speaker 4: jackass two, you're loaded, jackass three? Comes were there fears
Speaker 4: in your head or insecurities? Are like to be able
Speaker 4: to do X, Y and Z the way I used to?
Speaker 4: How'd you get how'd you get over that fear?
Speaker 3: Just diving in? Like it seems like you're doing everything?
Speaker 3: Or was there a dip in the toe here and there?
Speaker 2: I Uh, I had some doubts about whether I haven't
Speaker 2: had it in me, but like once I was, once
Speaker 2: I was in like it.
Speaker 8: It's just so important to me, Like it became like.
Speaker 2: A real thing that I wanted to prove that sobriety
Speaker 2: didn't turn me into a pussy, even though on some
Speaker 2: level it did because at that time, I was like
Speaker 2: I was newly vegan. I was like newly like exercising,
Speaker 2: like really really careful about what I ate, and and
Speaker 2: like I was just I wasn't killing myself anymore.
Speaker 8: It was in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2: It was a gnarally gnarly time to go from like
Speaker 2: sure that I would be dead in short order, and
Speaker 2: I never expected to live very long in the first place.
Speaker 2: So like the whole first you know, decade of my career,
Speaker 2: like if you count it started as a clown, Like
Speaker 2: I never it never occurred to me once to invest anything,
Speaker 2: to save anything to like because I had nothing to
Speaker 2: save for it, because I was so convinced that I
Speaker 2: was going to die young. Like that was the almost
Speaker 2: the whole point of being STEVEO.
Speaker 8: Was too die young.
Speaker 2: So then along comes two thousand and eight, where in
Speaker 2: March I have this intervention. Now I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm doing the inventory work, I'm taking accountability, I'm seeing
Speaker 2: if I'm really on fire for recovery, and now I'm
Speaker 2: not killing myself anymore. It's important to me to conduct
Speaker 2: myself in a way that you know, the the works
Speaker 2: for recovery, which means now, like for the first time ever,
Speaker 2: it's striking me, holy crap, I might actually not die
Speaker 2: like really young, Like I might be staring down the
Speaker 2: barrel of like many more decades of life on this earth.
Speaker 10: Like and.
Speaker 2: As I'm realizing that I don't even know if I
Speaker 2: can like even continue this career in the entertainment industry,
Speaker 2: because everything they're telling me about recovery is that you
Speaker 2: have to deflate your ego. You've got to practice spiritual
Speaker 2: principles in all of your affairs, Like you gotta do
Speaker 2: the right thing.
Speaker 8: When nobody's watching. You got to like, you know, none
Speaker 8: of that seemed to.
Speaker 2: Like fit with being Stevo from Jackass. So it called
Speaker 2: into question everything that I had ever done professionally, Like
Speaker 2: I didn't know, like how am I going to deflate
Speaker 2: the ego and be in be an entertainer, you know,
Speaker 2: like mutually exclusive concepts. So I didn't know. And going
Speaker 2: back to the point about maybe life would be boring,
Speaker 2: like I wanted so badly to not hate myself and
Speaker 2: to not be humiliated that like even if like that's
Speaker 2: how it's got to be, Like recovery is your number
Speaker 2: one priority, so like I didn't even know if my
Speaker 2: earnings potential existed anymore, and now I might be alive
Speaker 2: for many more decades. And then comes September two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight, and what savings I did have are decimated.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also good and bad thing because you weren't saving very
Speaker 4: much anyway, right, so you really take much of a hit.
Speaker 3: That's a positive.
Speaker 2: I paid zero attention. Like I had a business manager,
Speaker 2: I had my dad.
Speaker 8: It wasn't broke, but I just never looked I never
Speaker 8: even looked at anything, you know.
Speaker 2: And I think, uh, I think that like at the
Speaker 2: time I got sober, I had like three million bucks,
Speaker 2: and after two thousand and eight, I was like barely
Speaker 2: a million. After the financial crisis, Like it was like
Speaker 2: more than a half of what I had was gone,
Speaker 2: as well as potentially my earnings potential as.
Speaker 3: You know, as like it was it was a crossroads.
Speaker 8: Pretty creepy time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so when when Jack Gass three came along,
Speaker 2: it's not like I was gonna not do it, you know.
Speaker 2: And and uh, in between getting sober and Jackass three
Speaker 2: d I dipped my toe in the water by doing
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars, just to see if.
Speaker 8: Like you I hated it.
Speaker 2: I hated it, and uh yeah, I hated it.
Speaker 8: It made me so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Made sense to do it because like I didn't have
Speaker 2: to be crazy, I didn't have to take risks, Like
Speaker 2: I could rehearse right down the street and it would
Speaker 2: get me in front of the camera. So I could
Speaker 2: just determine if that even made sense in sobriety. And
Speaker 2: what I didn't factor into my decision to do Dancing
Speaker 2: with the Stars was like being in front of twenty
Speaker 2: million viewers. It was at that time TV was still
Speaker 2: a thing, you know, Like at that time, you couldn't
Speaker 2: watch video on a cell phone. I don't think, you know,
Speaker 2: Like at that time, twenty million people were watching Dancing
Speaker 2: with the Stars, and I was palpably uncomfortable, like and
Speaker 2: I remember like it was like more of a test
Speaker 2: for my sobriety than it needed to be.
Speaker 8: I reached out to some people in recovery and I
Speaker 8: was like, I'm not okay.
Speaker 2: I'm not okay, And I was told, all right, sometimes
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be okay. That's just how it is.
Speaker 2: But when things are not okay, the one thing that
Speaker 2: will always help is to conduct yourself as a gentleman
Speaker 2: to do the right thing, because even when like, uh,
Speaker 2: nothing feels good, at least you'll have that to feel
Speaker 2: good about.
Speaker 3: A gentleman.
Speaker 2: Right. And and then jack Guys three came along, and
Speaker 2: it's like, all right, I'm not going to turn down
Speaker 2: like the only the third good job I've ever been offered,
Speaker 2: you know, and uh and and I went into that
Speaker 2: like I care about my health and my well being,
Speaker 2: and you know, so I made a rule, like I
Speaker 2: laid down the rule that, like, guys, I've survived enough
Speaker 2: at this point that I just don't have a sense
Speaker 2: of humor for dying or becoming paralyzed over.
Speaker 8: A stupid stunt.
Speaker 2: But if like evident risk of paralys or death is
Speaker 2: not part of the equation, I will.
Speaker 3: Not back out of anything that's that's scary.
Speaker 2: It's it's pretty remarkable how much that actually takes off
Speaker 2: the table. But I got through that whole Jackass.
Speaker 8: Three without compromising on my my rules.
Speaker 2: I didn't make it through like a week of Jackass
Speaker 2: four without breaking those rules.
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, and Jackass three, before you get the Jackass four,
Speaker 4: what was the scariest thing for you that you had
Speaker 4: to do?
Speaker 2: You know, like I've been. The most anxiety I remember
Speaker 2: having going into a bit was the stupid electric.
Speaker 8: Avenue with the.
Speaker 2: Mayeah with the I don't even matter.
Speaker 8: I don't think it was a hotel.
Speaker 2: I think it was like just the Jackass offices, but
Speaker 2: it was a.
Speaker 8: Little halloway with like a bunch of.
Speaker 2: Stun guns dangling like cattle prods dangling, and it was
Speaker 2: just like I didn't want to do it, man.
Speaker 8: Like my my, uh, you know, my instincts really wanted
Speaker 8: me to not do that.
Speaker 2: And I remember saying, like, I feel like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: pass out of so much anxiety, but like, uh but
Speaker 2: I muscled throw it.
Speaker 3: Ripped over there and did it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like yeah, I was gung ho.
Speaker 2: And the other thing too about like being creative, Like
Speaker 2: I don't think that there was one single idea I
Speaker 2: wrote for Jackass number two.
Speaker 8: That even got filmed.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I was like I was a mess, dude.
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, I'll get a tattoo of a
Speaker 2: cigarette coming out of my lips with smoke rising up
Speaker 2: my face like that was that was that was one
Speaker 2: of the ideas.
Speaker 3: A bullet on that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean I just didn't have and I
Speaker 2: wasn't particularly brave as loaded as I was on Jackass
Speaker 2: number two, Like I wimped out on Hella Ship.
Speaker 4: It seems like you were like a big sniffing poop,
Speaker 4: like definitely always you always are. It was always a thing.
Speaker 4: Did you ever catch heat for that? Eleven year old
Speaker 4: tailor thought that was soft? I don't knowh wow, eleven
Speaker 4: year old tailor was like, oh, this guy's always thrown up.
Speaker 4: What's the deal? Why is the stomach always like this?
Speaker 4: You never caught any heat for that?
Speaker 8: Oh, like soft, because like you're like.
Speaker 3: Get the weak's stomach for sense, and yeah.
Speaker 8: Man, it never it never occurred to me that.
Speaker 2: That that that was. I mean maybe if like that's
Speaker 2: my go to instead of gnarly like stand in front
Speaker 2: of a bowl, like I get that being soft, but
Speaker 2: soft because now, like what it was is just having
Speaker 2: a really vivid and powerful imagination such that I am
Speaker 2: a terrible premature ejaculator. If I find something sexy and
Speaker 2: if I find something gross, like it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: like all I need is just the idea of something
Speaker 2: being gross, and I'm basically already borrow Yeah. Less so
Speaker 2: less so in recent years than in the past.
Speaker 8: But yeah, that's just what it was like.
Speaker 2: I never felt soft because I was such a hair
Speaker 2: trigger on barfing.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm genuinely resentful at the Guinness Book of World
Speaker 12: Records for not acknowledging my undeniable world record for having
Speaker 12: barfed on screen in both television and film far more
Speaker 12: than anybody.
Speaker 3: They hadn't recognized you at all.
Speaker 2: No, They've snubbed me year after year, and I'm sick
Speaker 2: of it. I know, I mean, dude, like, it could
Speaker 2: not be more demonstrable. Every time somebody barfs in television
Speaker 2: or film, it is so obviously fake. They put something
Speaker 2: in their mouth and they just spit it. And when
Speaker 2: I barred on television and film, it is clearly real
Speaker 2: and nobody has come near. I mean retroactively.
Speaker 8: I really demand justice.
Speaker 3: This is the platform for that to happen.
Speaker 5: More.
Speaker 3: People will definitely say something.
Speaker 8: Yeah they will, And I'm not even asking a lot.
Speaker 2: I could, I could, I could have a scroll with
Speaker 2: a hundred world records, but I'm only going for the
Speaker 2: most absolutely rock solid, demonstrable and undeniable and impressive world record.
Speaker 4: Maybe your piece also being extreme, No, your peace, you Genitalia,
Speaker 4: He's got me by a mile. He always had a
Speaker 4: nice little elephant wrapped around or something like that, A
Speaker 4: nice little banana hammock. Now has got you on that,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: Pontius, I mean especially after Jack I was four with
Speaker 2: that opening sequence.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's so funny that I was like, what are
Speaker 4: they doing?
Speaker 2: It might have done a little bit more harm than good, though,
Speaker 2: because I think a lot of a lot of algorithm,
Speaker 2: a lot of them, a lot of males are not
Speaker 2: quite as comfortable with their sexuality as we are. And
Speaker 2: you hit them with that much dong that quick, a
Speaker 2: lot of males are gonna kinda like you look.
Speaker 4: At it and you just you're sitting there wondering what
Speaker 4: the fuck's going on? Like why is there a military?
Speaker 4: And then you see the penis and you're like, we're
Speaker 4: fucking back boys. Jack gasses back, like the fans are like, yes,
Speaker 4: I need a good piece in our life.
Speaker 2: I've read more as like kind of like huking a
Speaker 2: stick at a bunch of seagulls.
Speaker 8: A lot of them are flying away.
Speaker 3: A lot of them.
Speaker 4: What's what's this thing going on? What's going on around here?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: You said, Jacks too, You didn't all the things you
Speaker 4: did right, didn't happen? Jack Guss three creatively?
Speaker 3: How yeah? Hell yeah yeah? How prow much proud had
Speaker 3: you take in that?
Speaker 2: I loved it?
Speaker 8: Man, I loved it because.
Speaker 2: Number one, I was able to like it down in
Speaker 2: a in a writing session with Knoxville, you know, because
Speaker 2: like the sober version that was about two years sober
Speaker 2: at that time, and already like my relationships with the
Speaker 2: other Jackass guys were just a lot more.
Speaker 8: They benefited from a lot like like me wasted on
Speaker 8: coke and like I was just like it was just
Speaker 8: too much nobody.
Speaker 2: To say. People could only handle me in small doses,
Speaker 2: just putting it mildly, you know it was.
Speaker 8: It really really helped all of.
Speaker 2: My relationships to be sober and accountable and like you know,
Speaker 2: kind of focused. And so I would sit down with
Speaker 2: Knoxville and uh, you know, I know all the guys
Speaker 2: and and write ideas. I remember, like the cover of
Speaker 2: the three point five DVD with the mentos and soda war.
Speaker 8: I came up with that one. Like I don't know,
Speaker 8: I wrote a lot of ideas that that that all happened.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: One thing you guys did that was like a genius
Speaker 4: idea of going from three to four is introducing new
Speaker 4: members like that has given you, guys the ability to
Speaker 4: allow that to kind of live on past what you
Speaker 4: after you're done doing this too, you say you'll do
Speaker 4: this and one more and than after that.
Speaker 3: You don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you seem like, as I'm presenting that question to
Speaker 4: you that there's some mixed reviews on how you feel
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 2: I don't know that everybody, Uh, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know that everybody felt that the new cast was a hit.
Speaker 2: I know that that the the OG cast when the
Speaker 2: idea of bringing in new blood, younger, fresh air faces
Speaker 2: like the O G Cast was not stoked about that,
Speaker 2: you know, like telling a bunch of attention wres that
Speaker 2: now they're going to share.
Speaker 4: The share the stage with younger guys well that do
Speaker 4: whatever they can on a platform that's already established, right, and.
Speaker 3: And that was just a.
Speaker 2: Something that they felt super duper strongly about that. The
Speaker 2: powers that Be being Knoxville, Jeff Tremaine and Spike Jones,
Speaker 2: those guys are the three creators, the powers that be,
Speaker 2: and I get it. I think that they were they
Speaker 2: were right, you know, we needed uh some some help
Speaker 2: lifting you know, like I think that if I'm conflicted
Speaker 2: about it, the idea of.
Speaker 8: I mean, for me, like my biggest fear in.
Speaker 2: The world is like to be famous and broke, you know,
Speaker 2: like and uh, you know, I'm not by any means
Speaker 2: like trying trying to be judgment taller or or negative.
Speaker 2: I just I'm very sensitive to the idea of giving
Speaker 2: putting people on a on a platform like that and
Speaker 2: giving them, you know, and they're just not not being compensated,
Speaker 2: you know. So you're making them like principal cast members
Speaker 2: and a bonafide like maybe not blockbuster but legit Hollywood franchise.
Speaker 4: Huge fan base. People are going to know it's going
Speaker 4: to make money, right and.
Speaker 2: Like and and their compensation isn't there, you know. So
Speaker 2: like then add on top of that that you've been
Speaker 2: writing their ideas for them, you know, like like do
Speaker 2: we know that they have the the ability to manage
Speaker 2: that level of opportunity that you're handing.
Speaker 8: Them, you know, Like.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just it's you know, you know, like
Speaker 2: it's a really really dark way to put it. But
Speaker 2: like I sure wasn't a fan of that bum Fights thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, like it seems like a like a
Speaker 4: long play.
Speaker 8: Is I already feel bad for saying that?
Speaker 4: No, speaking, just talking about a fear that's crossing into
Speaker 4: your mind is nothing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, like I do, I love I love
Speaker 8: the new guys.
Speaker 2: And with that said, like I have that sensitivity, and
Speaker 2: I've done like everything that I can to try to
Speaker 2: help them, you know, like with like developing YouTube videos,
Speaker 2: like the ideas, like merch designs, like websites.
Speaker 3: Like god, you know, you have a big rain on
Speaker 3: all of that.
Speaker 4: You do a great job and take every opportunity to
Speaker 4: promote all that stuff, which is what you gotta do
Speaker 4: with these How long after when you heard I don't
Speaker 4: know who told you, if you if you even want
Speaker 4: to say, hey, we're going to add new blood to
Speaker 4: this cast, how long did that resistance go to cooperation.
Speaker 8: Resistance was futile, it was going to happen.
Speaker 4: How long were you like look mad about it until
Speaker 4: you were like, all right, I mean.
Speaker 2: Nobody was going to turn down a movie deal, and
Speaker 2: like so everybody was in and there was going to
Speaker 2: be a new cast. So whether we liked it or not,
Speaker 2: it was gonna happen. And I would say that that
Speaker 2: the sentiment changed just on the very first day of filming,
Speaker 2: like like the you know, all the new cast members
Speaker 2: just brought good energy. They were just so visibly stoked
Speaker 2: to be there, Like it was impossible. As much as
Speaker 2: we wanted to not like them, it was impossible to
Speaker 2: not love.
Speaker 8: Them right away.
Speaker 2: And you know, between all of us, the chemistry was
Speaker 2: you know, it's like we never stopped shooting, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: the laughs were there, the energy was there.
Speaker 3: For sure. How much did you feel the absence of
Speaker 3: Ben Marjora during that whole thing?
Speaker 2: I mean, he was there for the first week, like
Speaker 2: we managed to film for one week. He was only
Speaker 2: there at the tail end of that week. I think
Speaker 2: he shot maybe like two days, and then at the
Speaker 2: end he shot the last two days of the first week.
Speaker 2: And then the pandemic shut everything down. So we went
Speaker 2: into hiatus from March all the way through October, which
Speaker 2: is like what like six months or something. Thing, and
Speaker 2: Bam had these stipulations that he wasn't allowed to get loaded,
Speaker 2: but like, I don't think that was gonna happen anyway,
Speaker 2: but it definitely wasn't gonna happen, like.
Speaker 8: Being on hold for six months, you know, and and
Speaker 8: like when he.
Speaker 2: Was there for those two days, like to me, it
Speaker 2: didn't really feel like like Bam as we knew him,
Speaker 2: you know, like it was it was.
Speaker 8: A little bit of a shell of Bam.
Speaker 2: And then like during those six months of pandemic when
Speaker 2: he was fired, I was the one more than anybody
Speaker 2: campaigning to try to get him back.
Speaker 3: On the movie.
Speaker 2: I was like, guys, like, the the answer here, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's to scrub him entirely, you know, like
Speaker 2: the I think the rationale for firing him entirely was that,
Speaker 2: like he was a liability and that if he had
Speaker 2: some disaster it was going to reflect poorly on the
Speaker 2: movie and the franchise. But I'm like, guys, to be realistic,
Speaker 2: you know, like you can't make a family member not
Speaker 2: your relative. You know, like whether he's fire fired from
Speaker 2: the movie or not, you are not going to mitigate
Speaker 2: his attachment or affiliation.
Speaker 8: And we can't pretend like he never existed. And like, yes,
Speaker 8: by all.
Speaker 2: Means, penalize him for for you know, breaching his agreement
Speaker 2: with the sobriety, but don't remove don't remove him completely,
Speaker 2: just uh you know, have like, uh a lesser role like,
Speaker 2: reduce his involvement, reduced his compensation, but don't entirely remove him,
Speaker 2: because if you do that, then when we get into
Speaker 2: promoting the film, like we weren't even gonna be able
Speaker 2: to promote the film because we're gonna be dealing with
Speaker 2: questions noble Bam band, you know, like if you if
Speaker 2: you reduce his involvement, if you reduce his compensation, and
Speaker 2: anybody says anything about BAM's like, oh, well, no.
Speaker 8: He is in the movie, like next question, you know,
Speaker 8: like and then the.
Speaker 2: Other level of like dude, what are we doing to
Speaker 2: just imagine? Like, I mean, I remember how awful and
Speaker 2: how traumatized I was by the Bad Grandpa's situation where
Speaker 2: I felt like the Jackson four and that was me
Speaker 2: along with everybody else in the cast, you know, And
Speaker 2: that's how much it traumatized me.
Speaker 8: And it wasn't even a Jackass movie.
Speaker 4: Like now you're not projecting same fears, being like BAM's
Speaker 4: probably gonna feel this way and go through that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, imagine what what we're doing to Bam by
Speaker 2: singling him out and he's the only one now like
Speaker 2: he's Dave Masstine, you know, like kicked out of Metallica,
Speaker 2: you know, like that that that's a heavy and gnarly thing.
Speaker 2: And I wasn't, you know, trying to projectors. But but
Speaker 2: like heaven forbid, anything really gnarly happens, like and and
Speaker 2: we did that, you know, like.
Speaker 8: So so me the sober nerd.
Speaker 2: I was the biggest, like most outspoken person campaigning on
Speaker 2: BAM's behalf to get him back in the movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I was trying my ass off, Like I was like, I.
Speaker 2: Was scripting texts for him to send it to the
Speaker 2: powers that Bam to try to put the appropriate words
Speaker 2: in his mouth to sway their opinion.
Speaker 3: No way.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I was doing everything.
Speaker 8: That that I could and and it's just what you know.
Speaker 8: And and like it got to a point where we
Speaker 8: had like a zoom meeting.
Speaker 2: You know, there was like between Knoxville and Jeff Tremaine
Speaker 2: and Spike Jones, there was like like almost like a
Speaker 2: like a podium like bronze, silver, gold, like different.
Speaker 3: Levels of okay, you know, like okay for me to
Speaker 3: go the next.
Speaker 8: Of resistance BAM back on.
Speaker 2: We got to a point where all three of them
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a zoom call with Bam, and it
Speaker 2: was it was like almost just a formality of like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna give you another chance, you're coming back in
Speaker 2: and and that zoom call, Like Bam, that's the nature
Speaker 2: of alcoholism. You find the worst possible time to blow everything.
Speaker 2: Because he he no showed that zoom call, no after
Speaker 2: appearing all over social media just visibly intoxicated, like there
Speaker 2: was no question about where he'd been the night before,
Speaker 2: what shape he was in, and he did not make
Speaker 2: it onto that call. And that was that the purpose
Speaker 2: of that call was to be like, Okay, you're back,
Speaker 2: and he.
Speaker 4: Blew it no way after you put all that work
Speaker 4: in script. I did it all about my no doubt,
Speaker 4: but I putting all that working from just from watching.
Speaker 8: I was pushing for it. Man.
Speaker 2: I didn't think it did the franchise any good to
Speaker 2: make it a big thing about firing him, and and
Speaker 2: the powers that be felt that they and they're not wrong.
Speaker 2: They felt that the reason why Bam has like progressed
Speaker 2: so far in his illness is because he's never had
Speaker 2: any consequences. He's always had everybody shield him from his consequences.
Speaker 8: And you know, everything's been.
Speaker 2: Okay and for the first time they were gonna like
Speaker 2: put some teas and what they said, and then they're
Speaker 2: not wrong.
Speaker 8: They're not wrong, but it's just high stakes.
Speaker 4: Going back to the enabling and then but it also
Speaker 4: not only you stop enabling BAM, but now you're putting
Speaker 4: a whole bunch more on your y'all's plate when you're
Speaker 4: promoting this movie and the same thing happens.
Speaker 3: You just said, or where's Bam, what's going on? Bad?
Speaker 3: You don't want that to be the main storyline of
Speaker 3: Jack s Ford, right, and and and it was like when.
Speaker 2: When like every other week or whatever it was, that
Speaker 2: there's a new TMZ thing and they're here in Bam.
Speaker 8: He's like, ah, and.
Speaker 2: Then BAM sues him, like that was the most absurd lawsuit.
Speaker 2: I remember talking to him because I was I was talking,
Speaker 2: I was, I was like Switzerland and the whole deal
Speaker 2: the whole time.
Speaker 4: You know, I was the one guy that that just
Speaker 4: so wild to being the most sober guy there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like hey, this drug agg we got to keep
Speaker 3: this guy fucking in here, man. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, And I remember when the last seat thing came
Speaker 2: up and I was like, Bam, you know, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what dude, like go for the bag, you know
Speaker 2: by all means like go for the bag, but separate.
Speaker 2: And I said to you, I said, if you can
Speaker 2: actually manage to get anything out of suing.
Speaker 8: My hat is off to you because you s to
Speaker 8: have no case whatsoever.
Speaker 11: Like this is like.
Speaker 8: Everything that's wrong about.
Speaker 2: The civil lawsuit like society that we live in, where
Speaker 2: it is like it is no brainer to throw money
Speaker 2: at it to just avoid legal costs. Because like his
Speaker 2: case was pure bullshit, like demonstrably false, like it was
Speaker 2: so meritless and so factually incorrect everything that he was
Speaker 2: claiming that I cannot believe he even managed to get
Speaker 2: any kind of settlement. I can't even believe that it
Speaker 2: wasn't just dismissed with prejudice, like out.
Speaker 8: Of the gate.
Speaker 3: That's nuts. Yeah, he probably did.
Speaker 4: Sat there and he was like they'll see man when
Speaker 4: I think this franchise down.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean he got like he got a hunk of change,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't like a particularly impressive chunk of change.
Speaker 2: And and as I understand it, like a whopping percentage
Speaker 2: like above what's normal, went to the lawyers, and then
Speaker 2: like what what remained the stupid asshole turned around and
Speaker 2: bought like a Bentley, Like you dumbass, why.
Speaker 6: Did you know?
Speaker 2: Like serious thing when when you have like this uh,
Speaker 2: this this this need, this like ego driven need to
Speaker 2: like keep up appearances, Like how many like when when
Speaker 2: when you're trying to keep up the appearance and you
Speaker 2: can't really like you don't have it like that, but
Speaker 2: you're but it's really important to pretend that you.
Speaker 4: Do, then you're in a really scary I come from
Speaker 4: that world with football sports athletes in general.
Speaker 2: Man, Like the documentary Broke God, that's you.
Speaker 3: Talk about biggest fears.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I stay down that barrel every day and I'm like, please, God,
Speaker 4: do not let that happen to me, you know, for
Speaker 4: whatever reason.
Speaker 3: But you see guys who come playing in the league.
Speaker 4: They're a rookie, they're undrafted, they're making like a small
Speaker 4: amount of money for the for NFL, and they're pulling
Speaker 4: up in the medleys, they're pulling up in the maybacks
Speaker 4: and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: You're like, dude, you don't need.
Speaker 2: To do this, right. I think that they like brought in,
Speaker 2: uh some kind of like regulatory system where you have
Speaker 2: to like have some kind of financial education.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not with the NFL.
Speaker 4: I think with all of this all nil stuff, and
Speaker 4: I don't know how much you know about that, but
Speaker 4: like the college of players now use their likeness and
Speaker 4: there needs to be something this kif him USC kayleb Williams.
Speaker 4: He's making three million dollars this year as a college athlete,
Speaker 4: and there needs to be something put in the put
Speaker 4: in there where it's like, this is how you diverse
Speaker 4: fire portfolio. This is where you handle this, like give
Speaker 4: him the basics.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, like that. We don't need to totally get
Speaker 2: sidetracked here. But if you're only a college athlete, presumably
Speaker 2: you're early enough in your career and you're if you're
Speaker 2: making that kind of money as a college athlete, it's
Speaker 2: probably a pretty safe bet that.
Speaker 8: You're gonna go pro.
Speaker 2: So you can do what Lebron did where you learn
Speaker 2: from your mistakes early and then by the time you're
Speaker 2: you're in the pros, you've already had your growing pains
Speaker 2: and that's.
Speaker 3: A phenomenal point.
Speaker 4: However, Lebron, Yeah, and you kind of sit there and
Speaker 4: you're like, he goes out and I hope this does
Speaker 4: not happen, gets injured, career in the injury, something happens
Speaker 4: that three dollars is all you've gotten out the NFL.
Speaker 4: The average in the NFL is two years. And if
Speaker 4: you're and everything, really the average average NFL player plays
Speaker 4: for two years and you don't, and eighty percent of
Speaker 4: them go broke ye even crazier, and that money's even
Speaker 4: bigger than the NFL. So you get this kid who
Speaker 4: has three million dollars, I would just say, put him
Speaker 4: in a situation where he.
Speaker 3: Knows the basics. Do the do the three dollar rule.
Speaker 4: One dollar goes to paint taxes, one dollar goes to
Speaker 4: your house, one all goes what you want.
Speaker 3: You're good.
Speaker 2: Make him watch Billy Corbin's documentary entitled Broke Yes.
Speaker 4: It's heavy thing, especially because football is such a wild
Speaker 4: world where dudes come from all over different demographics and
Speaker 4: everything and morge k and other spaces. So it is
Speaker 4: one of those deals where you hope it all works out,
Speaker 4: but you need to get these guys a little bit
Speaker 4: of guns. If would have gave me three million dollars
Speaker 4: in college, first off, half of it would have gone
Speaker 4: up my nose and I would have been fucking going crazy.
Speaker 4: I would probably I probably would have died. There was
Speaker 4: no way I would have been able to handle that situation.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we did get a little sit charted. This
Speaker 4: is not about me or football.
Speaker 8: That's all good.
Speaker 2: And I mean, like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: this is really scary what's going on. Like I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that the powers that did anything wrong, I like
Speaker 2: their their heart was in the right place. And for
Speaker 2: all of BAM's crazy accusations about how they screwed me
Speaker 2: and this, like, uh, like nobody has and unilaterally, not
Speaker 2: one person has wanted anything for Bam but the best
Speaker 2: for him, happy and healthy, And everybody's got a different
Speaker 2: approach to how they think that they're gonna help Bam
Speaker 2: become happy and healthy. And not one of these people
Speaker 2: can do ship because it's.
Speaker 8: Up to Bam.
Speaker 4: It is is one of those things you you can
Speaker 4: lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
Speaker 3: One person.
Speaker 4: You've brought up a lot in this and I basically
Speaker 4: started the show with giving flowers to Johnny Knoxville.
Speaker 3: Where do you think this franchise would be if it
Speaker 3: wasn't for Johnny?
Speaker 4: Because you hear about the MTV and he says, well,
Speaker 4: fuck you guys, I'm not losing the integrity of the show.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 4: It gets you guys a movie deal and essentially turns
Speaker 4: jack Us into what it is today. Like how pivotable
Speaker 4: was that man this whole entire process.
Speaker 2: That's why I call him the Captain.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I really really revere him. And uh,
Speaker 8: you know as the.
Speaker 2: You know, Johnny Knoxville and Jeff Tremaine and Spike Jones.
Speaker 2: It's really like the dynamic for me, Like Johnny Knoxville
Speaker 2: is like the older brother who can do no wrong.
Speaker 8: Like he's just like the older brother that that you
Speaker 8: worship and you want to like, you know, you just
Speaker 8: look up to him.
Speaker 2: And Jeff Tremaine is like the father figure you just
Speaker 2: want to make proud, like, you know, like the most
Speaker 2: important thing, like make him proud. And then Spike Jones
Speaker 2: is like, you know, it's embarrassing to say, but like
Speaker 2: he's got this like deity quite you know, like he's
Speaker 2: like beyond father. He's like, like I got a holiness
Speaker 2: to him. Where like like all three of them put
Speaker 2: together are absolutely the three people who it means the
Speaker 2: most to me to try to impress, you know, like
Speaker 2: praise from them means like all three of them are
Speaker 2: like incredibly receptive too, and supportive of every little YouTube video,
Speaker 2: like book, like comedy special everything that I do. Uh,
Speaker 2: they hear about like I'm pretty persistent, like with you know,
Speaker 2: sharing my press. Yeah, you know, and they've just all
Speaker 2: been so supportive of me. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 2: I think that I can comfortably say that they're all
Speaker 2: like quite impressed with what I've managed to accomplish, and
Speaker 2: I'm profoundly grateful for that.
Speaker 4: That's incredible. Do we want to hear hit some tear
Speaker 4: talk with mister Steve O.
Speaker 2: Cool, let me take a leak and that's the perfect time.
Speaker 4: So we do segments on our show and it's one
Speaker 4: of them is called tier talking. As you're in the
Speaker 4: best that we were talking about what we should do
Speaker 4: for tier talk. I feel like the best thing to
Speaker 4: do is best character stunts. And you're gonna give us
Speaker 4: your top three. Okay, bro, all the Jackass movies, all
Speaker 4: the stuff could have been something that like didn't make
Speaker 4: the cut, dude, I well, yeah, I start, I started three.
Speaker 8: Okay.
Speaker 2: I made a YouTube video at one point called uh
Speaker 2: my top ten favorite Jackass bits.
Speaker 8: Which I was not in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: It got a strike for my channel on YouTube. Hell yes,
Speaker 2: because it didn't occur to me that there would be
Speaker 2: a problem with me saying, uh, let me show you what.
Speaker 8: Wasn't allowed on Jackass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like.
Speaker 8: I went and uh.
Speaker 2: Showed some stuff that you know what I mean by
Speaker 2: by the virtue of me saying this was not allowed
Speaker 2: on TV, Like it's like, well then why the fuck
Speaker 2: would it be allowed on YouTube?
Speaker 8: You know, like and so yeah, I caught a strike
Speaker 8: for that, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I.
Speaker 8: Am I going with per cast member.
Speaker 3: I think you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 4: My thought is your top three of like whoever could
Speaker 4: be you could be somebody else top three stunts.
Speaker 2: Okay with uh? With Jackass, there's like very distinct lanes.
Speaker 8: You know, there's like.
Speaker 2: Painful, there's dangerous, there's gross, and there's.
Speaker 8: Like just sort of absurd, you know, like.
Speaker 2: And uh, I think it's been very masterful, like how
Speaker 2: you know you can't stay in one lane for too long,
Speaker 2: gotta change, you know, like just the the strategic order.
Speaker 8: You know, and like whatever is like super gross like.
Speaker 2: They you know would on the TV show particularly like uh,
Speaker 2: make that the final bit. You know you're gonna lose
Speaker 2: a lot of the female audience if it's so gross,
Speaker 2: you know, So there's like a lot of true strategy.
Speaker 2: And I mentioned that because what I thought was so genius.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I would have landed in the prank lane,
Speaker 2: you know, like it's the lane is in pranks. But
Speaker 2: it was just so unique and unsung was Knoxville's taxidermy bit.
Speaker 2: There was a hidden camera prank where Knoxville went into
Speaker 2: to a number of taxidermy businesses with this elderly woman
Speaker 2: who he named Dottie Dorothy. And Dorothy's supposed to be
Speaker 2: like ninety years old, and she looks every bit of it.
Speaker 2: And Knoxill goes in and you know, the taxidermy all
Speaker 2: the animals are all over the place, and he says, hey,
Speaker 2: this is my grandma, Dottie, and uh, you know, sadly
Speaker 2: she doesn't have much longer with us, and we're just
Speaker 2: here to inquire if she could be stuffed and mounted,
Speaker 2: like Kenny, you stuff and mount my grandma who's standing
Speaker 2: right next to me, Oh my god, lie and and
Speaker 2: can you And it was just so genius, man, and like, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, one place said like I don't even think
Speaker 2: that would be legal, but you know, but but definitely,
Speaker 2: I don't even know how we would.
Speaker 8: Cure the skin, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, going into it like then and and then there
Speaker 2: was he actually got a quote, he actually got a quote.
Speaker 2: They're like, I don't know, like off the record, I
Speaker 2: think like twenty gesus, like.
Speaker 8: You know, like she's standing right there.
Speaker 2: Like to me, that was the most genius like genius bit,
Speaker 2: Like it was just like everything in the lanes like
Speaker 2: all kind of like if you stay in one lane
Speaker 2: too long, everything starts feeling like very similar, and like
Speaker 2: there's no number of pranks he could put back to
Speaker 2: back where that wouldn't stand out as like that is
Speaker 2: so funny, genius and unique, like so I think taxidermy
Speaker 2: is up there certainly for the prank. I mean, there
Speaker 2: were some good ass pranks, like the all the fake
Speaker 2: baby ones were really good. And credit to Dave England
Speaker 2: for starting off the fake baby phenomena. You know, he
Speaker 2: started it with daddy and baby and the fake baby
Speaker 2: was on the the bicycle seat on the back and
Speaker 2: he would crash the bicycle and then they just kind
Speaker 2: of took that and ran with it.
Speaker 8: They did a million fake baby ones.
Speaker 2: But as good as they were, they weren't just like
Speaker 2: man that taxidermy. I think that's my favorite prank of
Speaker 2: all time.
Speaker 8: As far as like.
Speaker 2: The stunt, I mean, Dave England, man, I I'm gonna
Speaker 2: give Dave England credit for being just so goddamn creative man,
Speaker 2: like he always he just thinks in a way that
Speaker 2: other people don't think he had, like skateboarding in like
Speaker 2: a rolling you know, full pie if that's going down
Speaker 2: the hill, like rollerblading on a skate like. He just
Speaker 2: just this.
Speaker 8: Quirky stuff, you know. I love all that.
Speaker 2: And then Knoxill's of course the gnarliest, not everything knox
Speaker 2: always did because the Naxio is the one guy who
Speaker 2: didn't grow up skateboarding.
Speaker 8: So we all grew up skateboarding for the.
Speaker 2: Most part, which means we'd spent our, like all of
Speaker 2: our growing up, like learning how to fall down.
Speaker 8: You know, you fall up a skateboard, you kind of
Speaker 8: figure out like how to land.
Speaker 2: Knox Shaw had none of that. So whenever Knoxville falls,
Speaker 2: he has no idea how to land, and it's the worst,
Speaker 2: most devastating slam some of those bulls. Man, That's why
Speaker 2: Knoxville I considered to be the most exciting professional skateboarder.
Speaker 3: In the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and with the bulls man, Like I don't know,
Speaker 2: Like like I said it in the fourth Jackass movie, Like,
Speaker 2: at no point, even when life was worth the least
Speaker 2: to me, when I valued my own life the least,
Speaker 2: you couldn't get me in front of goddamn bull.
Speaker 4: Why why was he doing that? Why did he go
Speaker 4: and get on the bull because he's done it before,
Speaker 4: literally said there's only a fine more concussions you can take.
Speaker 3: Brothers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, I think he's finally
Speaker 2: done with being in front of bulls, thank god.
Speaker 8: And you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just say, like, he's just a different breed man.
Speaker 2: He's uh, he's a different breed dude. And I just
Speaker 2: don't understand it. Like if you think about like Jackass
Speaker 2: was just like lightning in a bottle for so many reasons,
Speaker 2: like uh, how like just from a insurance standpoint, like
Speaker 2: I'm not even clear that the first movie was insured really,
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I'm sure it was on some level,
Speaker 2: but but there's this thing in Hollywood called a negative pickup,
Speaker 2: which means that a movie studio might fund the movie,
Speaker 2: but they're not like attached to it in any formal way.
Speaker 2: They're like, you know, that was how the first Jackass
Speaker 2: maybe was made. Was like okay, like five million dollars
Speaker 2: like and then maybe I'm maybe I'm not like being
Speaker 2: very accurate, but like my general understanding is that like
Speaker 2: five million dollars was shuttled to a ghost company, like
Speaker 2: perhaps in some untraceable man, you know, and in the
Speaker 2: the the ghost company like produces the film and you know,
Speaker 2: the first like it wraps nobody's dead. And then in
Speaker 2: a very formal sense, Paramount Pictures, the movie studio finds
Speaker 2: out about this existing movie for the first time. They say,
Speaker 2: oh wow, this is great. We're just finding out about
Speaker 2: this movie. Now we would like to buy it. You know,
Speaker 2: it's a negative pickup, meaning they purchase it after it's
Speaker 2: been filmed.
Speaker 8: And uh, you know, yeah, I think now you would
Speaker 8: have to talk to.
Speaker 2: An entertainment lawyer to find out if anything that I
Speaker 2: just said is even remotely true. But uh, you scrap
Speaker 2: allegedly to that whole theory. But yeah, it's like that's
Speaker 2: just the level of liability now.
Speaker 8: Certainly, like the last movies were like.
Speaker 2: You know, like insurance crazy, like you know they they
Speaker 2: really did the last movies like uh, like I believe
Speaker 2: very different leaf from that. But regardless, when you're dealing
Speaker 2: with ensuring a movie, when you're dealing with uh, you know,
Speaker 2: you're leading man in your major like theatrical box office production.
Speaker 2: Like not only does Knox will not have a stunt double,
Speaker 2: He's the one taking the biggest risks. It's like taking
Speaker 2: Tom Brady and like, you know, putting him like in
Speaker 2: in the most no no line, Like Tom, you know
Speaker 2: you're gonna go out there. We're just gonna You're not
Speaker 2: gonna have an offensive line for this game.
Speaker 3: Just go out there.
Speaker 2: Hey, nobody needs no snap, You're just gonna just start
Speaker 2: holding the ball, Like I mean, it's crazy, dude, So
Speaker 2: that I mean unprecedented. It's unprecedented to have a leading
Speaker 2: man in a Hollywood movie like take risks like that.
Speaker 2: It's like it it goes on and on and on
Speaker 2: about how just lightning in a bottle it is and
Speaker 2: nothing like that ever happened before, and nothing like that
Speaker 2: I don't think could ever happen again. Now, sure, I
Speaker 2: gotta acknowledge that with with the action sports, there's risks
Speaker 2: of me taken like like people are dying like on
Speaker 2: a fairly regular basis. Like somebody should look at the
Speaker 2: action sports industry and really question, like what's going on
Speaker 2: over here.
Speaker 3: You know, while it's a wild industry.
Speaker 4: Travis Pastrana, who like seems like he just is the
Speaker 4: king of all that, right, and all those guys, there's
Speaker 4: been so many dudes in that nitro circus world that's
Speaker 4: passed away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really scary, and uh, in order to
Speaker 2: be like relevant.
Speaker 8: Or or you know, like you have to.
Speaker 2: It's like this goddamn movie on Netflix, The Deepest Breath,
Speaker 2: where these chicks are are competing for who can free
Speaker 2: dive on one breath the farthest, and like they have to.
Speaker 8: Break the record every time.
Speaker 2: So they're they're literally like at one hundred and three
Speaker 2: meters below the water on one single breath, and for
Speaker 2: their record to count, for their dive to count, they
Speaker 2: have to re emerge conscious. They doesn't even count when
Speaker 2: they're like they're like me passing out on nitrous oxide
Speaker 2: when they get to the water. It's the most disturbing, shocking,
Speaker 2: fucking upsetting thing. And they have to be conscious and
Speaker 2: they have to be able to look at the judge
Speaker 2: and be like I'm okay, my god, and then they
Speaker 2: get the white card. You win, like, dude, people are
Speaker 2: dying like.
Speaker 8: A documentary film, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And then as soon as it ends, the one that
Speaker 2: that they pops up, it's the trailer for the next
Speaker 2: thing they feed you is like the fucking free diving
Speaker 2: documentary about the assholes. You go through the hole in
Speaker 2: the ice and they have to make it to the
Speaker 2: other hole.
Speaker 6: It's like.
Speaker 8: Neither.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now they're there. They're hypothermia plus fucking like no
Speaker 2: like free, no breathing breath. I mean, dude, like that.
Speaker 2: The world we live in is it's really really crazy
Speaker 2: and like where.
Speaker 4: That example gives me no doubt that this is gonna
Speaker 4: be on Netflix. You're special.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know about that.
Speaker 8: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: It is it is Chappelle meets uh like stunts.
Speaker 3: It's is that good? Like that?
Speaker 4: That's seven minutes when you're able to show us you
Speaker 4: went to the bathroom. We said, they're like, we would
Speaker 4: all watch that.
Speaker 8: It's it's I'm gonna tell you, it's goddamn good.
Speaker 2: Like I've worked on that show for five fucking years man,
Speaker 2: and uh like I never stopped.
Speaker 8: Like improving it and uh yeah, and then thank you.
Speaker 2: I would love it if if it got on Netflix,
Speaker 2: not especially love it if you know the stupid writers
Speaker 2: and sag strikes that I don't understand that to be
Speaker 2: the case.
Speaker 4: I'm not as I'm not as familiar with all that,
Speaker 4: but it does seem like a bit of a deal
Speaker 4: out here in Hollywood. Before we get out of here,
Speaker 4: we obviously most of the boys and all the boys
Speaker 4: are Jackets.
Speaker 3: Do you guys have any questions for mister steveo Becky Garrett?
Speaker 7: Is there one from the original show, the TV show
Speaker 7: one stunt that just stands out above the.
Speaker 2: Rest tax Jeremy was on the TV show show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean the thing about the TV show Jack asked
Speaker 2: when it came out, like the whole cast was never
Speaker 2: in one place together until we were filming the second season,
Speaker 2: so we were all like bona.
Speaker 8: Fide stars on MTV.
Speaker 2: And that really meant something back then, because that was
Speaker 2: at a time year two thousand when it came out,
Speaker 2: and it was the world of dial up modems, you know,
Speaker 2: like there was no such thing as playing video footage
Speaker 2: on the Internet like in any like real way, So
Speaker 2: you had no competition from the Internet for television and
Speaker 2: what that meant, like the media was just not fragmented
Speaker 2: the way that it is today. Like and on top
Speaker 2: of that, when Jackass came out, it was instantly the
Speaker 2: highest rated, biggest profit margin the MTV had ever had,
Speaker 2: and it was soon dethroned by the oz Borns a
Speaker 2: year or two later. But like, it had a staggering
Speaker 2: audience and it made us all like legitimate celebrities overnight
Speaker 2: and we hadn't even met each other. So like, when
Speaker 2: when each episode came on, I had absolutely no idea
Speaker 2: what I was going to see, except for I knew
Speaker 2: what I was gonna have on the show, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe like I filmed the whole first season of the
Speaker 2: Jackass TV Show in the space of five days, even
Speaker 2: though I only filmed on three of those days, and
Speaker 2: so I was privy to what I was there for
Speaker 2: when it happened in those five days. But Bam, wasn't
Speaker 2: there when I was cheating, Like none of the Cky crew,
Speaker 2: Dave England, Preston, Lacey wee Man like, So everything was
Speaker 2: as new to me when I was watching that first
Speaker 2: season when it premiered, as it was to every one
Speaker 2: of the other millions of people that was watching, and
Speaker 2: I remember just being like, it's just so impressed. I
Speaker 2: was like, especially because when the show got picked up,
Speaker 2: I was told, like to send in all the video
Speaker 2: footage that I had so that it could be licensed,
Speaker 2: acquired and included in the show, just like a lot
Speaker 2: of bam cky footage was. But when I sent in
Speaker 2: all the video footage that I had, they told me
Speaker 2: that not one clip I sent them was allowed on
Speaker 2: television because MTV was super touchy about fire, you know,
Speaker 2: because they had like fire lawsuits that were really really
Speaker 2: you know, costly to them, and they had rules over it,
Speaker 2: like if you were going to jump off something, it
Speaker 2: couldn't be over a certain height. And that was my thing,
Speaker 2: was jumping off high shit, like lighting myself on fire,
Speaker 2: and sometimes both at the same time, you know. And
Speaker 2: if I wasn't like myself on fire or jumping off
Speaker 2: high shit, then I was like compensating for that by
Speaker 2: making it really gnarly and by definition not allowed on MTV.
Speaker 2: So my first concern before we even started filming the
Speaker 2: series was, yeah, it's great that Big Brother minus the
Speaker 2: skateboarding is gonna be on MTV, But what kind of
Speaker 2: a watered down, pussified version of it is.
Speaker 8: It gonna be?
Speaker 2: Like what are they gonna let us do? Like I
Speaker 2: send it on my footage, nothing's allowed on TV. And
Speaker 2: then when the episodes came on, I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, Like they really got very nimble at like
Speaker 2: working within the rules, the confines, you know, like and
Speaker 2: I just remember being like, God, damn, I'm part of
Speaker 2: something cool like fly, Like.
Speaker 8: I was just like a fan of the show and
Speaker 8: on the show, you know, so like.
Speaker 2: When you see what was my favorite bit from the
Speaker 2: TV show, Like I remember like Mexican snowboarding or whatever,
Speaker 2: like uh, you know, which probably wouldn't fly today, you know.
Speaker 2: Just everything was so goddamn rad And how Knoxville had
Speaker 2: like his broken ankle for the whole like they just
Speaker 2: like it just felt like, uh, particularly with Knoxville's broken ankle,
Speaker 2: it felt like, uh, like a continuous stream, you know,
Speaker 2: and like the failures like making the cut and it's like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, like just taking failure and stride. Like probably
Speaker 2: the most impressed I was like when Knoxviell actually broke
Speaker 2: his ankle. You got Pawtius dressed up as Bunny the lifeguard,
Speaker 2: and uh and Knoxville does the thing breaks his ankle,
Speaker 2: and and Ponnie's like it's like Johnny Knoxville, best rollerblader,
Speaker 2: the best roller skater in the whole best roller skater
Speaker 2: in the world, maybe in the whole town, you know,
Speaker 2: something like just like just ship like that that Pontius
Speaker 2: would say, it was so so funny, like and and
Speaker 2: and and and even more so with Brandon d. Camillo,
Speaker 2: who is who is everything?
Speaker 8: Everything that ever came out of Brandon D.
Speaker 2: Camillo's mouth is my favorite of every Like he was
Speaker 2: more talented than all of us put together. I would
Speaker 2: I would like if not all of us, like damn
Speaker 2: near all.
Speaker 3: Of us put together.
Speaker 2: That's and I was seething with jealousy, just like with d.
Speaker 2: Camillo and Pontius, how they didn't have to risk anything.
Speaker 2: They didn't have to they didn't have to have any
Speaker 2: like physicality, they didn't have to be in any pain,
Speaker 2: they didn't have to take any risks. They could just
Speaker 2: make nothing into gold, you know, like they're just there's
Speaker 2: those two guys just they're not like natural talent never
Speaker 2: came to me, you know, like like my attention seeking
Speaker 2: like was all you know, I'm like pure hustle, you know,
Speaker 2: a pure.
Speaker 3: Hustle grinding for that next thing.
Speaker 4: When you were doing the first season and you don't
Speaker 4: know any of these guys in the second season, you
Speaker 4: guys are all put together. Who were you most excited
Speaker 4: to me at that point? And who did you gravitate
Speaker 4: towards the fast?
Speaker 1: Ah?
Speaker 2: I mean this is the interesting part is that like
Speaker 2: that first season, like my total money earned was after
Speaker 2: taxes less than fifteen dollars, no shit for the entire season.
Speaker 3: A lot of risk, no reward.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And uh, I mean like like I.
Speaker 2: Made a YouTube video called why I was broke when
Speaker 2: Jackass started or whatever like that that gets all into that.
Speaker 2: But I was working in a circus at a flea
Speaker 2: market when it started, and I told those circus owners
Speaker 2: that when that there was gonna be an MTV crew coming,
Speaker 2: that I was going to be famous, that I had
Speaker 2: to go film for five days, but that I would
Speaker 2: be back. And uh and just like I said, on
Speaker 2: the precise of the day I said, the MTV crew
Speaker 2: came and the circus owners were like very very touchy
Speaker 2: because there were animal rights people crawling all over the
Speaker 2: place because they had three elephants, and and like they
Speaker 2: ended up getting shut down like for the like animal
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 8: But like when the.
Speaker 2: MTV crew came in Knoxville and Tramin and the circus
Speaker 2: owners says, like, why are these assholes here filming my elephants?
Speaker 8: You know, like that's just the hot button thing you
Speaker 8: do not do.
Speaker 2: And and I said, like I told you that they
Speaker 2: were gonna come, and it's MTV. They're not gonna like
Speaker 2: give you you know, They're not gonna do anything where
Speaker 2: you can sue them.
Speaker 8: But that was just too much.
Speaker 2: And when I came back from the five days of
Speaker 2: filming having been bitten by a shark, like just just
Speaker 2: completely sleep deprived, drinking all night, like just I come
Speaker 2: in to the circus and they're like, man, we don't
Speaker 2: have it in the budget, like we gotta let you go.
Speaker 8: And it was one hundred percent because the elephant's been filmed.
Speaker 2: But now I'm unemployed, and I'm now I'm unemployed, and
Speaker 2: I'm a cocaine addict and I don't have any money,
Speaker 2: and my sister kicks me out of the house I'm
Speaker 2: living with my sisters. Now I'm homeless, and then like
Speaker 2: the show comes out and I'm broke, unemployed, homeless, cocaine addicted,
Speaker 2: and like a star on the biggest show in the
Speaker 2: history of MTV. No, Like, can I have a photo
Speaker 2: with you?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Can I sleep on your sofa?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: I mean, that's when it was like, so I had nothing,
Speaker 2: I had nothing, and I was homeless and I was
Speaker 2: on and I was like and uh And dude, Bam
Speaker 2: had everything. He had built in revenue streams. He was
Speaker 2: selling more skateboards than Tony Hawk. Bam Marjara holds the
Speaker 2: world record for selling more skateboards than any human that's
Speaker 2: ever lived. And I believe that it's like to an
Speaker 2: exponential like to the power of like three or ten
Speaker 2: or something more more.
Speaker 8: Than Tony Hawk.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody will ever catch up to Bammar
Speaker 2: Jerffer having sold the most skateboards.
Speaker 8: I think that's a bona fide legit.
Speaker 2: Are you googling it?
Speaker 8: Dad?
Speaker 2: One hundred percent? It's gonna come up right now that
Speaker 2: like he sold more fucking skateboards than anybody in history.
Speaker 2: He was out selling Tony Hawk, like by a lot.
Speaker 2: You know, as soon as Jackass came out, he.
Speaker 8: Was in then he was in the Jackass.
Speaker 2: He was in Tony Hawk's pro Skater and that money
Speaker 2: came in from that was outrageous, Like and he had
Speaker 2: his shoes hit it and runny coming in from every
Speaker 2: direction that you could possibly face.
Speaker 8: I had nothing.
Speaker 4: You're looking at one of your co stars and you're like,
Speaker 4: did you literally have everything?
Speaker 8: Yeah? I mean and and uh, I.
Speaker 2: Remember too because the show was already out and I
Speaker 2: hadn't seen c K y two K, and I saw
Speaker 2: it and I was like, my buddy's making a porno
Speaker 2: in his bedroom. He's literally filming.
Speaker 4: Himself, like and uh, his own personal collection.
Speaker 8: He's for his own personal home video.
Speaker 3: It's always good to have those in the arsenal Right, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like vagrant homeless, you know, I'm watching c KY two
Speaker 2: K on a VHS tape and and I will by
Speaker 2: the way, we're all on liquid acid, Like we're literally
Speaker 2: put droplets of liquid acid in our mouth.
Speaker 8: We're tripping our faces off.
Speaker 2: While he's filming himself in the bedroom, and I'm watching
Speaker 2: c K Y two K, and I see Bam jump
Speaker 2: off of the six floor balcony. Into a swimming pool
Speaker 2: and I'm just so jealous, like he's like it was
Speaker 2: that was so rad and I go and I demand
Speaker 2: my buddy like stop, come on, we gotta go. I'm
Speaker 2: fucking like My response to seeing Bam jump off that
Speaker 2: balcony was to go get my clown stilts and video
Speaker 2: camera and throw myself off of a bridge while walking
Speaker 2: still over the railing and everything, so that as I
Speaker 2: go off the railing, like I get like kind of
Speaker 2: the rotation of it. Yeah, I mean, you want to
Speaker 2: talk about like football and and acls. You want to
Speaker 2: go over the railing off a bridge while wearing stilts
Speaker 2: that are strapped to your knees like your acls are.
Speaker 3: In jeopardy and I'm on toward those acls.
Speaker 8: Never, no way, My knees are solid.
Speaker 3: I've never had metal lists of those knees, dude.
Speaker 2: I've I've been big on stitches, big unbroken bones, but
Speaker 2: my joints are are solid and getting. I've got maybe
Speaker 2: some hip issues and rotator cuff from my shoulder, but
Speaker 2: it's like normal wearing terror, dude.
Speaker 4: That the shoulders and the hips of the number one things,
Speaker 4: one and two things that.
Speaker 2: They're creeping up of super recent like god, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: creeping up.
Speaker 3: Super do anything like n A D or anything like that.
Speaker 8: Haven't tried na D got.
Speaker 3: To do NAD. It is truly incredible.
Speaker 2: I went to Colombian guys stem cells for degenerative disc
Speaker 2: disease in my neck.
Speaker 4: Your neck, to get an epidural for it.
Speaker 3: One time, dude, in.
Speaker 2: My bucket list show, I got an epidural foot race.
Speaker 2: Epidural foot race, well, yeah, like an epidural like fifty
Speaker 2: yard dash. They pull out the needle, some four inch
Speaker 2: needle in your spinal cavity. They injected drug called uh
Speaker 2: chloroprokine into my spinal cavity, which renders me paralyzed.
Speaker 8: While I'm in a full sprint. They plot the needle
Speaker 8: and go.
Speaker 4: Literally when you said in Jacks ran for your like,
Speaker 4: but these two things don't happen paralyzed or right?
Speaker 8: Oh dude, Like yeah, like I did life threatening ass ship.
Speaker 3: And how'd you make the fifty yards?
Speaker 2: A dude? I kept like I was in the Yeah, dude.
Speaker 2: The craziest darkest thing about that is like, once I'm down,
Speaker 2: they gotta determine how paralyzed I really am.
Speaker 3: How do they do that like Flick you feel this
Speaker 3: a lot more than Flick my does. Oh we got
Speaker 3: we're running at tape? Do you guys don't have anything?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I think I gotta get going anyway.
Speaker 3: Okay, ten times?
Speaker 2: Can you imagine how many skateboards Tony OK's been the
Speaker 2: number one and since the eighties Bam strolls along in
Speaker 2: two thousand and since then has sold ten times the
Speaker 2: skateboards of Tony Oks. And like, I mean, dude, I
Speaker 2: can't even like you can never trust uh celebrity net worth,
Speaker 2: Like they're so wrong, Like.
Speaker 8: It's just it's it's a joke.
Speaker 2: So like whatever they think Tony Hawk's worth. I'm guessing
Speaker 2: that's a very instance where they're coming in low.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I think most of the time it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: like chop in half and you're closer, but I think
Speaker 2: they're coming in low on on the birdman.
Speaker 3: What a legend we you say on the show sometimes, dude.
Speaker 2: Man, Tony's the coolest ratdest liket like for being like
Speaker 2: the foremost icon and something that's like not even a subculture,
Speaker 2: like a mainstream like Olympic sport, Like you cannot like
Speaker 2: you got Kelly Slater for surfing, You've got Sean White
Speaker 2: for snowboarding, you got Tony Hawk for skateboarding. Like these
Speaker 2: are like the undeniable, like like Coca Cola with no PEPSI,
Speaker 2: you know, Britney Spears with no Christina Aguilar, Like nobody's
Speaker 2: close to Tony Hawk and being the most famous skateboarder
Speaker 2: ever and uh, he's the most down to earth. Du
Speaker 2: We'll do like virtually, like what did you have to
Speaker 2: do something down?
Speaker 8: For sure?
Speaker 3: His documentary at HBO was unreal. It was so cool
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 8: It was unreal and uh like yeah, and like so
Speaker 8: inspiring man.
Speaker 2: You know, like when I was loaded, I used to,
Speaker 2: uh look at Tommy Lee and I'd be like, as
Speaker 2: long as Tommy Lee's still raging, like I got another
Speaker 2: ten years in me, you know.
Speaker 8: And then after I got sober, I got switched to
Speaker 8: like Tony Hawk. As long as Tony Hawk's getting read,
Speaker 8: I got I got another six years in me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that's awesome. Man, dude.
Speaker 4: We can't thank you enough for opening your home to us.
Speaker 4: He's been out with us for as long as you
Speaker 4: do what our forty five hour whatever.
Speaker 2: It is a hard time for stealing my podcasting a vehicle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do.
Speaker 4: You're welcome on anytime you want to yeaow quarter breakdown.
Speaker 2: I love it, and let me send everybody to my
Speaker 2: bucket list special like the mestivo dot com is the
Speaker 2: hub for all of my great merch.
Speaker 8: I got the wild Ride podcast books, man.
Speaker 2: Two books, and by the time this comes out, like
Speaker 2: my second book will be available signed every copy I sign. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: I love it. You know. I like to consider myself
Speaker 2: like I think to myself a lot of the time,
Speaker 2: what would Tony Hawk do, Like if I'm feeling like
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lash out at somebody publicly.
Speaker 3: Tony not kind of Twitter very underrated.
Speaker 4: It's his Twitter, Oh dude, hit Like he'll go into
Speaker 4: like coffee shops, but you look like, oh that's hilarious.
Speaker 3: 's your coffee.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He'll relate these experiences in a way that if
Speaker 2: anybody else did that, it would be like super douchey.
Speaker 2: Like he's just like very realistic about what his life
Speaker 2: is like and in an objective way that's not even
Speaker 2: remotely like randiose or He's just like really really good
Speaker 2: at being like an ambassador and an icon and like
Speaker 2: a fucking legend and just like not even thinking it's
Speaker 2: a big deal, but like.
Speaker 8: Hey, let me share, let me share my experience in
Speaker 8: the coffee shop. Yeah you know, it's epic, dude. I'm like,
Speaker 8: I fucking love Tony hawk Man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah. Thanks everybody,