1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Howie Roseman. Welcome to the Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: But tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd Zleuki. It's Wednesday, August thirteenth, 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: How is everybody doing? 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: You heard from our little intro, little change piece, little 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: little pulling the string on the guest. 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: Whoa combio? I know that? 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's like one of the six Spanish words 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: I can speak and understand, and a couple of those. 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't de style love biblioteca. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: Yes, we can do it all. 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: But we had Eagles General Manager, super Bowl champion Howie 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: Roseman on the show. And let's start right there with 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: the Parks first Pitch. Park's first Pitch is brought to 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: us exclusively by our partners at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: one casino. And what a what a Park's first pitch 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: to have today with Howie Roseman. And it was a 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: lot of fun talking to him. Rubin, you go, you 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: go way back with Howie. He got hired, you know, 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: he was with the Eagles. He'd been with the Eagles forever, 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: it feels like, but he was hired as Eagles GM 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: January of twenty ten, you were wheeling dally. You just 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: you're a month off of Roy Halliday coming to the Phillies. 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: You tell us a little bit about your relationship with 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: him and how far you guys go back before we 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: get to Howie had. 27 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 5: An opportunity to spend some time with him and sort 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 5: of pick his brain his first time through as a 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 5: as a GM, and we talked a little bit, had 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 5: a couple of drinks from time to time, maybe had 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 5: a dinner or two, but it. 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: All really fascinated. 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 6: And that was during a time when you know. 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 5: We a lot of the gms at the time, we're 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 5: trying to get together and talk about you know, best 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 5: practices and stuff like that. But I've always found him 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: to be somebody who's super astute, very driven, and really 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: fun to fun to talk business. I mean, he's a 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 5: fun guy just in just in general. He and his 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 5: family great people, but just fun to talk business and 41 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 5: things around. And it's been a real joy to watch 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 5: his overall development and what's. 43 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 6: Happened to his career. 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 5: You know, he wins, he gets take sort of taken 45 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 5: you know, taken down. He has some six levels of 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 5: success he's and then he bounces back with like new 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 5: ideas and a lot of thoughts and now he's probably 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: the best GM in football and it's just been a 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 5: real joy to watch his development and how things have 50 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 5: worked out. 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: For It's kind of cool how there's like a little 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: fraternity in town between all the gms. I mean, you 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: play golf a lot with Paul Holmgren former Flowers GM, 54 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: and how are you of a great relationship with him? 55 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: I was thinking, I remember a time when I was 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: covering the Phillies, maybe when I first started, when the 58 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: Eagles and Phillies, there was some tension there. You know, 59 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 4: they were sharing veteran state. The Phillies used to complain 60 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 4: that the Eagles would leave the showers messy, and there 61 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: was some friction over you know, getting the new place 62 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: built and who was showing the vet uh a lack 63 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: of respect and who was shown in some respect. 64 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: And there was. 65 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 4: Like I said, some tension there, but not anymore. I mean, 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: they're very close, the relationship between John Middleton Jeffrey Lory, 67 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: the two owners, and there's a real healthy respect between 68 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: the two organizations. When the Eagles have won you know what, 69 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 4: two Super Bowls in the last seven years. The Phillies 70 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: have been very enthusiastic in their congratulations of the Eagles, 71 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: with banners hanging from Citizens Bank Park, and you know, 72 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: so it's good to see the them them them pulling 73 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: for each other. I didt you know, remember the parade 74 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: in March. All the players down Claiward were watching it. 75 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: To remember that on the EV they were watching it. 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it was Yeah, I mean they they 77 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: talked about how cool it would be, and you know, 78 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: they see that and they can't help but think of 79 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: maybe that could be us, and how much fun would 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: that be if that was us. I mean, they've taught, 81 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: they've talked about a lot. But how he had a 82 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: lot of great things to say. 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Obviously 134 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: you're coming off the Super Bowl, But when did that 135 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: itch start freaking for you? 136 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: Some time in July it gets to the point where 137 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: I'll wake up and I'll start like evaluating the things 138 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: going on in my house and like trying to oversee 139 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: some of the things my wife and my kids are doing. 140 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: And she'll suddenly say to me, like, when does work 141 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: start for you? Like when you go back to work, 142 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: And that's when I know it's time to go. And 143 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: by the time we start here, you can't wait to 144 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: get back and you know it's it's a fun time 145 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: of year because you get to be around your guys, 146 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: evaluate your players, and you can't lose any games. 147 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: Exactly right, that's right. How far you know? 148 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: You became GM in January of twenty ten, right at 149 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: the height of Ruben's run as Philly's GM, Like can. 150 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: You talk about your relationship? 151 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: Did you guys ever grab dinner, bounce ideas of. 152 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: Danks, drinks, hang out? But you know what the best 153 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: part is that and obviously, like I had a sabbatical 154 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: year that was that was imposed on me. But you know, 155 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: at one point early in my tenure, Ruben and I 156 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: were on a podium together. I don't know if you're 157 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna remember this. I think we're actually at the stadium, yep. 158 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: And you know, they said, what's your biggest surprise? And 159 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: I said, you know, after watching the response to Rubin, 160 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: after all the success he had, I realized that just 161 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: winning in Philadelphia once. I always had this vision like 162 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: you win a World championship year like your god for life, 163 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: and clearly like that's not going to happen, and you know, 164 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of joking. And then we won in seventeen, 165 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: and you know, I think there was a moment in 166 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty where my boys were watching a Phillies game. 167 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: I know there was a moment twenty foven boys were 168 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: watching Phillies game and there was a chance fire Howie 169 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: in the stands, and you know it was like, yeah, 170 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. We've made the playoffs three 171 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: last four years, won a World championship. You know, you 172 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: thought that was pretty good, and then you remembered kind 173 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: of I remembered my moment on that podium with Rube 174 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: where it's you know, in this city, which which I appreciate, 175 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: I really do. It's nothing that you've done in the 176 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: past guarantees your success or your standing in the future. 177 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: And that's okay, that's okay. 178 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 9: And a cool thing about that, howie is it? 179 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 10: I mean when you had sort of that hiatus, I mean, 180 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 10: you ended up doing some things you yourself personally to 181 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 10: become the GM, probably the best GM and in the 182 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 10: history of the of the Eagles, but. 183 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 5: Also in the sport. And you know, one of the 184 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: things that I really am really impressed by is the 185 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 5: fact that you continue to work to be that guy. 186 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 5: Is there anybody that in particular influenced some of those changes, 187 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 5: some of the things that you did change as far 188 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 5: as you know, doing your job is concerned. 189 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know this. You know, you get these jobs, 190 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: you always aspire for these jobs, and then you get 191 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: in the seat and you really don't know what it takes, 192 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, And that's okay. You don't know what it 193 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: takes to be a GM or a head coach until 194 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: you're really doing it. And there's very little patience for 195 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: the mistakes that you're going to inevitably make. And the 196 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: more you do it, you know, when you're young, you're 197 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: kind of like experience is overrated and as you get older, 198 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: You're like, man, experience is the most important thing you 199 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: can get and the only way you can do really 200 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: well is have adversity and learn from your mistakes. And 201 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: so being able to take that year and sit down, 202 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean you and I sat down together during that year, 203 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: certainly doing it with all these current former GMS leaders 204 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: of businesses and understanding like nothing is a straight line. 205 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: You know, you have to go through the ups and 206 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: downs to be great in anything you do. And it 207 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,599 Speaker 1: really inspired me. You know, I didn't know that I 208 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: get the chance certainly didn't know that I get the 209 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: chance to get in Philly, but it really inspired me 210 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: to have another opportunity and to really do it the 211 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: way with the vision that I had. And you know, 212 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: we got to constantly evolve in this profession, Like you 213 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: can't just say this is how I'm going to be 214 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: and this is it and stay stagnant because you'll get 215 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: your ass kicked. And so I think, you know, for me, 216 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: it's constant, like I think I'm learning something new every day, 217 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, And from my perspective, that's what makes this 218 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: so exciting, is like I don't even feel like I've 219 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: reached my ceiling because I still have so much to 220 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: learn and gain. You know, I'll take something from this 221 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: conversation that will make me a little better. 222 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 11: You know. 223 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: So from my perspective, when you're younger, you're kind of like, man, 224 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm so good. You know, I'm ready for this, and 225 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: you kind of got this cockiness, this arrogance, and you 226 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: realize as you get older, like you're never going to 227 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: be perfect, like you're always constantly learning and developing if 228 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: you really want to have a chance to be great. 229 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: Harry, I'm kind of familiar with your story. You knew 230 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: at a very young age you wanted to be a 231 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: football executive, a GM. 232 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: Correct I did, Yeah, I did? 233 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: What kind of you guys? 234 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't play in the NFL? So I realized that 235 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: pretty early too. My first my first scouting report was 236 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: probably on myself, you know, like I really felt like 237 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: it for a long time. I was like, man, I 238 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: can throw. I could be a quarterback in the NFL. 239 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: And then like you know, I started seeing like the 240 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks there were six two six, three, six four. I 241 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: looked around my family. Tallest guy was six feet. I go, 242 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: this wasn't this wasn't going to happen. It happened for me, 243 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: So I pivoted quickly. 244 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: Was was there an executive, a GM type that kind 245 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: of kindled your dream or was there a team that 246 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: ignited your fire for that passion? 247 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: Ironically, and you know, I'm probably sacriligious for saying this, 248 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: but but one of the teams that actually really rekindled 249 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: my desire or kind or really like that I look 250 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: to and I still think of this team was the 251 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: eighty six Mets. You know, the personality of that team 252 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: growing up or in and around New York and watching 253 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: that team and the personality of that team, and how 254 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: that team was put together with with veterans who were 255 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: kind of inspired to win and young players who had 256 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: come through the system and were winning. And and then 257 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: that that was eighty six. And in eighty six the 258 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: Jets had an unbelievable team too. They started ten to 259 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: one like they were on fire. They ended up losing 260 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: in a playoff game in double overtiming in Cleveland. Mark 261 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: Gastino on on a fourth down got a rough in 262 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: the passer on Bernie Pozar. The drive continued. They lost 263 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: that game. But and that team too, like that team 264 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,239 Speaker 1: that the offense of firepower on that team O line, receivers, 265 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: running back, and so in New York and eighty six 266 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: there were those two teams. And I was eleven years old, 267 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: and those teams I still as you can tell, I 268 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: still remember those teams and how they're made up. And 269 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: the GM of the Mets in eighty six was Frank Casher. 270 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Remember? 271 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah? 272 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: And the eighty six Jets was Dick Steinberg. And so 273 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: that those teams, like those gms, how they were made, 274 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: they really affected me. 275 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: I hope this doesn't sully your view of Frank Cash 276 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 4: and but he began his career as a sports writer. 277 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny you say that because you know, one 278 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: of my favorite GMS in the n NFL history Ernie Corsi. 279 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: You know, like he was a pr guy. So you know, 280 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: it's from my perspective. You know, at the end of 281 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: the day, if you can evaluate, if you can do 282 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: it, it doesn't matter where you came from. It's it's an instinct. 283 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: It's just like anything in life. If you have the 284 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: instincts do something, if you work hard at it, you 285 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: combine instincts and hard work and persistence, you got. 286 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 3: A chance away. 287 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: I read this story and please tell me if it's 288 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: truth or if it's a legend that you were flying 289 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: to Florida to visit your grandparents as a kid, and 290 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: you had a New York Yankees cap on and you 291 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: got seated somehow next to Jack Elway, who was the 292 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: San Jose State had football coach at the time, and 293 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: John was obviously drafted by the Yankees. And somehow, I 294 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: guess maybe you were seven, and you actually talked with 295 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: Jack throughout the entire flight about football. And at the 296 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: end of it, he gave his business card to your 297 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: mom and said, please call when he graduates from high school. 298 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: Is this true? 299 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? It was unbelievable because I had no connection to 300 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: the NFL, and I even at that age. You know, 301 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: it really started when I was six years old and 302 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: the Jets played the Dolphins the AFC Championship game, the 303 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: AJ Dewey Game. They lost fourteen to nothing in the 304 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: mud and the old Orange ball A J. Dou had 305 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: two interceptions, one for a touchdown, and I was hooked, 306 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: and and I just like the draft, even at that age, 307 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: and so to be able to sit down next to him, 308 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: and I was reading a draft magazine and to have 309 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: this guy who had you know, he was football royalty 310 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: to actually believe in me. And you know, belief is 311 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: such a huge deal, you know for our players, you know, 312 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: for our staff, haven't havn't people believe in them? You know, 313 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: everyone needs belief, Everyone needs people who believe in them. 314 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, I see it so often, you know, our 315 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: players when you just these talented guys, when you just 316 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: tell them like, I believe in you. I know you 317 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: can do it. I've seen it. I know you got this. 318 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: And you know for me that that was just instrumental. 319 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: And you know, John Elwood became the GM of the 320 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: Broncos and the first time I met him, I told 321 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: him that story, you know, and his dad was obviously 322 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: a special person to him. But you know that one 323 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: meeting had a huge impact on me. 324 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: So you reach out to him, did you ever? Oh yeah, 325 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: yeah you did. You you called him after high school? 326 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 9: So interestingly, Jack Jack Elway was the head coach at 327 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 9: Stanford all the years when I was there at Stanford, 328 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 9: So yeah, eighty four to eighty nine, I think it 329 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 9: was was his tenure, but I was there, you know 330 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 9: through eighty seven, and I had an opportunity to see 331 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 9: his work and obviously was loving Jack and watching John 332 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 9: elways career continued. 333 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 5: Pretty cool, pretty cool, pretty cool. 334 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: More from Howie Roseman. 335 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 6: In a second, Let's talk about the one and only 336 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 6: betting app that I would recommend to use for betting 337 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 6: on sports, and that is the bet Parks app. You 338 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 6: can bet individual player performances like strikeouts, homers, or RBIs. 339 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 6: And to stay with the football theme, I mean you 340 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 6: can go on there and go all types of sports 341 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 6: and talk about them or at least play play them, 342 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,239 Speaker 6: and you can check out some really. 343 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 12: Fun games as well. 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Gambling problem 358 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 6: called one eight hundred gambler. 359 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: Then the other thing I loved reading about how your 360 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: your your interests as a kid was you know even 361 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: I guess from senior high school through through college, you 362 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: like sent letters to every NFL team right looking for jobs. 363 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: And the persistence in that and and this is the 364 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 2: part that amazed me the most is that you actually 365 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: sent thank you notes to the rejection letters. 366 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: Is that true as well? 367 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: So you get a rejection letter and you'd send thank 368 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: you for responding to me? 369 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: Is that dating was easy for me because I didn't care. 370 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: You know, I was getting rejected all the time anyway. 371 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: You know, it was like so someone else said no, 372 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: it was like no problem. You know, I got so 373 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: used to the word no that it's like it's it's 374 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: really helped me so much in life. You know, I 375 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: kind of joke about it, but I got I got 376 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: four kids, three sons and a daughter, and I tell 377 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: them all the time, like once once you get immune 378 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: to hearing no and being rejected, it's powerful being able 379 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: to do that and understanding it. You know, in your game, 380 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: if you're successful three out of ten times, you're you're 381 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: some of the best players in the league, you know. 382 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: And so if you kind of take that into life, 383 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: and you take that into into and now, I can't 384 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: I can't be three for ten in the draft. I 385 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: can't be three for ten in free agency. So I'm 386 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: not saying that with any of our fans listening, like, 387 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: and we got to be way better than that, and 388 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm trying. But I think the point is, like it's 389 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: it's a lesson in life, like that is part of 390 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: the process you got to do to be great, is 391 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: you got to be okay understanding you're going to be rejected. 392 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: Things aren't going to always go the right way. Teams 393 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: aren't going to sometimes say yes to the trade offers. 394 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: You know. Obviously a lot of people said no to 395 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: me before I got in the door. And so yeah, 396 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: for me, it got to the point where it was 397 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: much harder to connect, you know, when I was coming 398 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: up than it is now. You know, now it's like 399 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, they just come up they think 400 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: it's so easy to connect with you and just like 401 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: give me a job. No, no, I'm not giving me 402 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: a job. You know that's not how it works. 403 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 6: Hallie. 404 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 3: I was wondering. 405 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 5: I was wondering, is there a quality of a player, 406 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 5: like when we used to do our organization meetings, Is 407 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 5: there a quality of a player that stands out to you? 408 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 5: Like for me, was about someone who could compete competition, 409 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 5: so a competitor. Is there something that you use for 410 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 5: per position? Is there one quality that you look for 411 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 5: as for employees and for for your members on the field. 412 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: Well, I think I think the first part. Obviously, you 413 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: know there's position specific stuff you're looking for. So what 414 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking for from at the quarterback positions gonna be 415 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: different when I'm looking for in a defensive line, and 416 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: so you know that that stuff, those traits are going 417 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: to be different. But we are always looking for someone 418 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: who's overcome adversity at some level because we know how 419 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 1: tough it is to play in the NFL, We know 420 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: how tough it is to play in this city. So 421 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: give me an example of some sort of adversity you've overcome, 422 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: how you overcame it. Who are the people in your 423 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: life who did that. You know, obviously you were looking 424 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: for competitors, no doubt about it, and we're able to 425 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: see that. You can see a lot of the competition 426 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: on tape. But for me, what you can't see on 427 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: tape is give me a moment in your life that 428 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: something something happened to you that wasn't great. Everyone has 429 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: a moment that bad stuff happened and how did you react? 430 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: And you get that. That's why our scouts are so important. 431 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: You know, when they're able to dig into the background 432 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: and you go through our team, you know, I'll give you. 433 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: I'll give you a little secret that not many people know. 434 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: You know when when they asked me to talk before 435 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: the second Parade the night before, all of a sudden 436 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: it hit me and it was basically, every single guy 437 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: on our roster has basically a Philly story, has a 438 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: story of adversity that they've overcome. I mean, we go 439 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: through it. Jalen Hurts obviously what happened in Alabama, you know, 440 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: then going to Oklahoma, Lane Johnson was a juke co 441 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: height quarterback. You know, goes and he's the third offensive 442 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: line and taken you know, like AJ Brown, the Titans 443 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: pasted on paying him. I mean, you could go through Eviit, 444 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: Jordan Malatta, you know, you could go through a whole 445 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: team and go through that, you know, and then I 446 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: got hit in the head, and you know. 447 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 5: I came out. 448 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: But I think from my perspective, that's what I think 449 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: that is so impressive about our team, about the people 450 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: off the field. I mean, look at our head coach, 451 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, look look at how he was judged originally. 452 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: But people don't realize he had a traumatic injury in 453 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: college where they told him he was never going to 454 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: play again. You know, I think about it and I 455 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: look for the people. You know, I say that the 456 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: toughest person I know is my wife and the things 457 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: she's overcome and how she's handled things, and so yeah, 458 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: we're attracted to people who have had a versity, dealt 459 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: with adversity and come out the other side with positive 460 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: energy and that you want to be around them. You know, 461 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: they're not kind of feeling sorry for themselves, but they 462 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: kind of got this positive chip on their shoulder, like, hey, 463 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, I had this event, but it makes me 464 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: even more thankful about the opportunity that I have. 465 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: So you're talking about character, and that's so important in sports. 466 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 4: How we down in spring training this year, you guys 467 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: were having your parade back in Philly, and I'll tell 468 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: you it was on the TV in the clubhouse. Players 469 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 4: were watching it. They were inspired by it. You know, 470 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 4: Brandy Graham brings the trophy out on opening day. This 471 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: team was legitimately it's inspired by the Eagles championship, and 472 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 4: there is. 473 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: A connection between the two teams. 474 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 4: John Milton's a close friend to you guys, is in 475 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 4: your box all the time? 476 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: Do you do you follow the Phillies? 477 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh yeah, well I'd say a couple of things. 478 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: You know. You mentioned John and Jeffery's relationship. I mean, 479 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: I have watched both our Super Bowls. John sat in 480 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: front of me. You know, I think that he's surprised 481 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: at what a psychopath during the games, you know, but 482 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: he's pretty passionate too, now, Like I gotta be honest. 483 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: His passion and his energy is tremendous. And then you 484 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: talk about Dave den Browski. I mean, to me, this 485 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: is a Hall of Fame executive. This is a guy 486 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: that I've always followed. I always have tremendous respect for 487 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: and appreciation for him and what he's done time and 488 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: time again, and constantly another guy who's like constantly going 489 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: somewhere and showing how great he is. And obviously in 490 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: my relationship with Rubin. So yeah, every every night when 491 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: I get home, you know, you put on the TV 492 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: for a minute, and my TV immediately goes to the 493 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: Phillies Phillies games. You know, my kids are huge Phillies fans. 494 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: You know, they play baseball, so I think they're you know, 495 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: following them and the success that they've had and showing 496 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: it year after year being able to do that, and 497 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: certainly when I was starting here also the success they had. 498 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of parallels. And you know, 499 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: I count myself as a huge Phillies fan. 500 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: Back when you know, you talked earlier at the beginning, 501 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: how you are always kind of looking to improve and 502 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: find ways to improve. So I'm wondering, you know, do 503 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 2: you when you see Dave Dombrowski. I don't know how 504 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: often you actually cross paths with them, but do you 505 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: guys pick each other's brains? You know, I'm thinking even 506 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: further back, like Moneyball comes out in two thousand and three, 507 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: and it's different sport obviously, do you pick up that 508 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: book and page through it and say, you know, did 509 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 2: you read that book? I mean anything, of course. 510 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: And for me, like, there's so much you can learn 511 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: from executives in different sports in the way they're approaching things. 512 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of the things that we've 513 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: done since I came back in sixteen, we're taking a 514 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: page out of what was going on in baseball and basketball. 515 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: You know, I think, you know, one of the things 516 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: that I did, like moving money, you know, that wasn't 517 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: really done in the NFL at that time, and we 518 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: started doing in sixteen where we were basically trading contracts 519 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: to gain money so that we could kind of resurface 520 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: that money and re distribute it other places. And you know, 521 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: for me, the way that baseball develops their players is 522 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: a lesson for US football player development is still coming 523 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: of age and it's something we take really seriously here 524 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. And every time the trade deadline, free agency, 525 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, I am looking through all these moves. I'm 526 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: trying to learn about these players and understand the WHYSE 527 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: put myself in the in those positions. 528 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 11: You know. 529 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: So it's always things that you can learn from and 530 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: to try to get better at what you're doing. And 531 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: you know, I got I got someone across the street 532 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: who's unbelievable what he does. And so yeah, we text 533 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: back back and forth. We see each other occasionally, but 534 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: obviously he's got busy schedule a lot more games than 535 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: we got. 536 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: How are you really appreciate your time? Just wanted to 537 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: ask you. You know, you're a champion. We know how 538 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 4: crazy this community is about the Eagles. Where's the coolest place? 539 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 4: Maybe you ever heard an Eagles chant or maybe somebody 540 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: ever said, hey, howie, you know way to go? 541 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: We love it. 542 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: It's it's funny you say that. We were in Rome 543 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: two years ago and we went to a restaurant and 544 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: our hotel was like a twenty five minute walk, and 545 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 1: so you know, my youngest son, my daughter, my wife, 546 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: my daughter wife are all dressed up. They're like, we're 547 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: not walking, you know, And I'm like, man, we just 548 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: had a big dinner. I'm gonna walk back. And my 549 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: two oldest sons were like, Dad will walk with you. 550 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: And we're walking across like a piazza and it's like 551 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: nine thirty at night, and literally I'm like, we're i 552 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: don't know. We're in bun down jeans and and it's 553 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: kind of dark, and I hear Howie go birds, and I'm. 554 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 6: Like, he was. 555 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 11: Crazy, crazy going on. And then we were on a 556 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 11: safari last year and South I'm not even kidding. We're 557 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 11: in a safari last year in South Africa, and like, 558 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 11: you know, I don't know if anyone's been on Asfari. 559 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 11: Everyone needs to go on as FARRII it's unbelievable. 560 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: But we're in these jeeps and we're like passing a 561 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: jeep and I hear this jeep go birds and it's 562 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: relly fans. Unbelievable, unbelievable. I'm gonna tell you what, I 563 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: can't wait to see the Phillies finish this off. I'm 564 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: gonna be there as we go down the street. I 565 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: couldn't be more excited for all you guys. Thank you 566 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: guys for having me. 567 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: Thanks, Thanks Ali, We appreciate it. Thank you so much, 568 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 3: really appreciate your time. Man, You're you're the man. 569 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 6: Congratulations on your stulations. 570 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: Thanks Memories. 571 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 572 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 2: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 573 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts