WEBVTT - P.S. Your Mama Has a Past

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, you guys. This week we have on Natalie Alcala,

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<v Speaker 1>the founder of Fashion Mamas, the first and leading members

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<v Speaker 1>only community for diverse mothers in creative and dynamic industries.

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<v Speaker 2>On this week's episode, you can expect to hear her

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<v Speaker 2>talk about how she created her international platform for like

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<v Speaker 2>minded mamas around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>How partying and being a mom aren't mutually exclusive, and

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<v Speaker 1>that your past doesn't define you.

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<v Speaker 2>Couples therapy, self sabotage in new relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Facing your inner child, and sding. Yeah, you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to stick around because we didn't know what the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>that was either. And also, you guys, we just announced

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<v Speaker 1>that we rescheduled our LA live show. It's no longer

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<v Speaker 1>in LA. It's for everybody. Yep, it's a virtual live show,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. And this day your normal zoom call no no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no, this is a moother fucking move v Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>This show is about to be so fire. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you've been wanting to come to our live show but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't didn't live in LA, you didn't live in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the time to buy your tickets. We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be doing the show on February thirteenth, so

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you click the link in the details of

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<v Speaker 1>this episode and get those tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, don't forget to click the link in the description

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<v Speaker 2>for our full moon ceremony on January twenty eighth. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>join us in a virtual full moon ceremony that comes

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<v Speaker 2>with a VIP box that's offered exclusively on Post twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one shop dot com. Get your manifestation on y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica, I'm Nila,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy hump Day, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy hump Day. So, as you guys know, we are

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<v Speaker 1>now starting off our episodes pulling a card out out

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<v Speaker 1>of our tarot deck. So let's just get into it

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<v Speaker 1>because it is a new moon baby in Capricorn and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to see what's it. Let's see that sound professional? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>We have the three of wands, three of wands, and

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<v Speaker 1>this looks like a car. So the guy has his

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<v Speaker 1>wands and he's his back is facing me and he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking out into the ocean. It looks like he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>at some ships sailing away or something. So what does

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<v Speaker 1>it mean? Tell me what it means?

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<v Speaker 2>Me la okay, So the upright three of wands is okay. So.

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<v Speaker 2>While the two of lands speaks to planning for the

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<v Speaker 2>future from a place of safety and comfort, the three

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<v Speaker 2>of wands shows that your plans are now well underway

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<v Speaker 2>and you are considering even more opportunities to expand your

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<v Speaker 2>current strategy and maximize your ultimate potential. Everything is progressing

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<v Speaker 2>steadily as expected, thanks to your solid preparation and ongoing drive. Bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>you heard that ongoing, dry.

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<v Speaker 1>Ongoing drive than preparing, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is for us, This is for all of us. The

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<v Speaker 2>three of wands signals the many chances available to you

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<v Speaker 2>to broaden your horizons through study, travel, business, enterprise, and learning.

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<v Speaker 2>You're becoming more aware of the opportunities that exist for

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<v Speaker 2>you right now, and there are still more to come.

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<v Speaker 2>To take advantage of this potential, you must stay committed

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<v Speaker 2>to your path and be prepared to stretch beyond your

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<v Speaker 2>comfort zone, knowing your best hopes lie outside of your

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<v Speaker 2>current environment. It is time to think big, big, big

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<v Speaker 2>capital ig Consider what you can, Consider what you can

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<v Speaker 2>to open doors to more development and self exploration. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you know these us two bitches love some self exploration. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>This card encourages you to dream bigger than your limitations,

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<v Speaker 2>accept your vision, and be confident you will achieve it.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, really amazing, Wow, amazing. It sounds like a butterfly

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of the cocoon, like you've done, You've done

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<v Speaker 1>the work, You've done your due diligence, and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to show all the fruits of your labor, like

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly, like it's so crazy. We pulled this card

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<v Speaker 1>on the new moon because I was reading so, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>the new moon is in Capricorn today and tomorrow, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading about you know what this moon brings,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's themes of death and rebirth and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>a moon about transformation, and it kind of feels like

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<v Speaker 1>that's what this card is talking about, Like you have

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to transform if you've been putting in that work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And it just feels like right on time,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because a we are about to do our event

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<v Speaker 1>on the twenty eighth at the full moon, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was reading this this little blurb from this astrologer that

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<v Speaker 1>I found on Instagram today. Her name's her instagram is

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<v Speaker 1>Aya's Corner aa y as Corner and she's a black astrologer,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was basically saying that new moons are usually

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<v Speaker 1>used for manifestation, but with this I highly for this

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<v Speaker 1>new moon right now. She highly suggests doing rituals of

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<v Speaker 1>protection to release the things that are not serving you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like that's like, this is the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>time right now, you guys, Like, if you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>coming to our full moon ritual event on the twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of doing a manifestation ritual tonight or manifesting tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>think about all the things that you want to release,

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<v Speaker 1>think about the things you need protection for, and then

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<v Speaker 1>bring all those things with you on the twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's really get that manifestation slowgoing because we have

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<v Speaker 1>such an amazing group of people coming in. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>excited about I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Just so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>We're about to really stir the pie and cultivate, like

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<v Speaker 2>combine all of our witchy divine energy at this full

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<v Speaker 2>moon ceremony led by a shaman, our favorite shaman, Jake,

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<v Speaker 2>Shaman Sham and Jake.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's also fine as hell excited, so I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>A yeah, if any if come for anything, come to

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<v Speaker 2>see this fine ass and It's going to be so

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<v Speaker 2>much fun, and I'm so excited for everybody to just

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<v Speaker 2>get to, you know, rap elbows with other witches.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have we just have such some Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>have some amazing powerful women that are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in there, like Bruna, she's going to do a goddess reading.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Melanie Fiona, our Homegirl friend of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>who is honestly my life coach. This girl, this woman

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. I called her the other day and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like falling apart, and she fucking got my ass

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<v Speaker 1>all the way together. Okay, Felicia Latour, Like, we have

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<v Speaker 1>such an amazing group of women that really really understand

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<v Speaker 1>what the power of manifestation and intention can do. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you have people in a room like that, like

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<v Speaker 1>that just adds energy to whatever it is that you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to manifest. So if you really want to get

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<v Speaker 1>your manifestation on, if you've already been, if you've already

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<v Speaker 1>been on this on this wave, kudos to you. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are interested in trying it out, seeing what it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about, this is the perfect time to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We have this amazing box that you're gonna get with

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<v Speaker 1>all the items that you need for the event, but

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<v Speaker 1>even more so the items you need just moving forward

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>So join us and be sure to click the link

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<v Speaker 2>in the details of this episode to get this private

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<v Speaker 2>link to our virtual Full Moon ceremony. Okay, so, before

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<v Speaker 2>we go, an affirmation for protection and release. Is I

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<v Speaker 2>happily let go of what's holding me back in life.

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<v Speaker 2>I welcome transformation.

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<v Speaker 1>I happily let go of what's holding me back in life.

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<v Speaker 1>I welcome transformation. On that note, let's get into this

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<v Speaker 1>episode with Natalie Alkala of Fashion Mama Joy or can.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a can wine? Baby, what is it called?

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<v Speaker 2>Love love white white wine, California and.

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<v Speaker 4>Cheers, cheers, cheers.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're joined by lovely Fashion Mama's founder Natalie Alcala.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking this is a long time coming. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>happy to have you here. Natalie. Natalie is, like Jamila said,

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<v Speaker 1>the founder of Fashion Mamas, which is this amazing community

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<v Speaker 1>that I found through my dear friend Nisha who's part

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<v Speaker 1>of Fashion Mama's. And but fashion Mamas is all over

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. You guys have got all over the world,

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<v Speaker 1>all over the world, Australia, baby, Okay, we have some

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<v Speaker 1>we have some listeners in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>In Australia a rainy pop.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I don't know if that's.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for coming. You're also a mama obviously too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a stan of this podcast. Thank you for having me,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about your babies. How old are they?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a six year old boy named Diego and

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<v Speaker 3>a two year old girl named Rio.

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<v Speaker 1>You're busy, Yeah, I'm so busy.

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<v Speaker 3>They just keep me busy, like twenty for seven and

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<v Speaker 3>even though I work all day, it's just they're always

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<v Speaker 3>on my mind. So being a mother is just totally

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<v Speaker 3>its own job. But we're somehow, some way supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>do both all the damn time. And yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, thank God for therapy and weed and drinks,

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<v Speaker 3>all the party favors I can get in. Honestly, Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel you can go hard in both.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was just telling Jamila that, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's time. You know, if you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>been listening, then you know me, Mila are You know?

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<v Speaker 1>We like mushrooms, and through in COVID, mushrooms have kind

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<v Speaker 1>of been like my saving grace because I had so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been dealing with anxiety on and off

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<v Speaker 1>most of my adult life. And I got to the

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<v Speaker 1>point during at the beginning of COVID where I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I am gonna I need to take pills, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to take something. And so I actually did

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<v Speaker 1>take some pills XANX to be exact, and it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It worked like a charm. It was great.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was like, ah, these weren't too good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be a pill pop in XANIX

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<v Speaker 1>having mama and and you know what, and like, no

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<v Speaker 1>shame to moms that take I just know myself and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I will cross the boundaries of xanic XANIX,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was like, I would. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>find another solution. And so my friend was like, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have you ever tried microdosing? And I've taken mushrooms,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've never used it for that, like in like

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<v Speaker 1>the heat of like despair and likes an anxiety attack,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really really helped me and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not having anxiety at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually gonna be using mushrooms this weekend just for

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<v Speaker 1>pure enjoyment because I have no I have no kids

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend they got enjoyed. But yes, party favors.

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<v Speaker 3>They used to call me pill queen. In college, so

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<v Speaker 3>my stepdad was a doctor and my favorite activity after

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<v Speaker 3>school was opening his cabinet and whatever pills there were,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe byk it in maybe who know, its a free

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<v Speaker 3>for all, and just.

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<v Speaker 1>Snort it right to the head.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a fellow woman from the valley.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the valley where there's nothing to do but

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<v Speaker 3>buck around. I saw her own the valley, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>pill queen. I was proud of it. Hoover was my

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<v Speaker 3>next six name. You can't guess why, And it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like snort all the things I can absolutely yeah, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>wait I'm coming, like you know, the vacuum cleaner. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>My specialty was definitely snorting my entire name.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, I'm a long ass name.

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<v Speaker 3>For some reason, no one gave me the grace of

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<v Speaker 3>shortening the name.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, you said, yeah, you do me anyway. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know it's taken me now in therapy to

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<v Speaker 3>laugh back and be like, I'm proud of like all

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<v Speaker 3>of the ways that I got here. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>at the time you're doing it to maybe fill a

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<v Speaker 3>hole or just maybe numb whatever else is going on,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe just to fucking have a good time, because

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<v Speaker 3>we're so bored at that age, and like we had supervision,

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<v Speaker 3>but not someone around the clock with us. And I've

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<v Speaker 3>always been like a baddie in my heart, like I

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<v Speaker 3>just knew I was a little like that gets me going.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, some people are just like they don't have

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<v Speaker 3>that need for another layer of the world, seeing that

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<v Speaker 3>other side of the world. And I go like this

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<v Speaker 3>because I think about literally the soil coming up and

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<v Speaker 3>just seeing what's underneath the hood. But when I've done mushrooms,

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<v Speaker 3>when I've done all the things, I really think that

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<v Speaker 3>people have done drugs, such as ourselves, they've just seen

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<v Speaker 3>that other layer of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. That's a good way I'm saying, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a vine that we all can share. I totally agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that. I you know me, and we actually went

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<v Speaker 1>to Joshua Tree, I don't know, maybe like two months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the first time, like not the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a while since I've used mushrooms super heavily

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<v Speaker 1>because I like like microadosing or take small doses. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was out there. I was like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go all the way in. I went all the way in,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw I definitely peeled back a layer of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Both had ever gone wrong. It wasn't no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not for me. Actually, yes, there's been one

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<v Speaker 1>time when I was in college. I was in like

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<v Speaker 1>a studio apartment with like seven people doing mushrooms in

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<v Speaker 1>the winter New York. That's terrible, horrible. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>we were all around away. I was like with a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of weird energy. I couldn't leave. It was just bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I think even like, yeah, I don't want, I don't want,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was it was not a good experience.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to be in nature to do that, because

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<v Speaker 3>you have to see like everything come to life around you,

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<v Speaker 3>like the trees right right.

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<v Speaker 2>There's definitely certain environments that are better than others. But

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I feel like.

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<v Speaker 3>When you I don't know about you, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think I can do it just in a room that's

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<v Speaker 3>just four walls and nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I need music.

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<v Speaker 3>I need you have to like set the seed right.

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<v Speaker 1>For me. At least, I'm not one of those people

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<v Speaker 1>like I like I'll take things like on the fly

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm with people sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's certain drugs for certain setups.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have no problem saying no, no, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I know I'm not in a place or

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<v Speaker 1>around people. I really want to experience this. I might

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<v Speaker 1>say something, I mean, thankfully. Yeah, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>have an addictive personality per se.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, besides weed, I guess I'm definitely addicted to.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've had my share.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm like a like some I can be

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<v Speaker 2>semi addict, but I'm like, I'm so conscious enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, bitch, you're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>To this is getting too like you're doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>A little too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Well back, full back, like your life's not getting anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>doing this having parent Yeah do that? Oh yeah I

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<v Speaker 1>am Oh yeah, oh you got to like be a

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<v Speaker 1>whole mom's right, Like, no, I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll you keep that line like I'll it on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 3>and it holds us account. It does because like your

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<v Speaker 3>kid doesn't care if you're hungover the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, my two year old, she's.

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<v Speaker 3>Away bright and bushy tailed at six am, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I can go hard. Did you plan your kids or like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>was it I mean, I know you're married. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>wondering if you planned because you know, because of your

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<v Speaker 1>pre party life or what was it what was your

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<v Speaker 1>name Pilgrims, Queen Hill, Queen Awa, Like what was the

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<v Speaker 1>transition into you know, motherhood, and like was it planned?

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<v Speaker 1>And had you retired pill Queen by then? That's such

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<v Speaker 1>a good question. So in twenty thirteen is when we got.

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<v Speaker 3>Married and we went on our honeymoon and then by

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<v Speaker 3>New Year's we were pregnant. And just because we've been

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<v Speaker 3>here for ten years, it sounds fast, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>a long time. And we cried and we were crying

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<v Speaker 3>from tears of joy and we're scared because we lived

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<v Speaker 3>the single life you can like, the best single life

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<v Speaker 3>you can possibly raving. We were partying. We would go

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<v Speaker 3>to Orange, which is a city, and there's like e

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<v Speaker 3>DC and all those things, and it was just like

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<v Speaker 3>we really lived our best life. And everyone, all my

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<v Speaker 3>friends would laugh, They're like, haha, imagine Natalie a mom,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And it was just like so not part

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<v Speaker 3>of my brand identity that when it happened, I was

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<v Speaker 3>just like, how is this going to go down? And

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<v Speaker 3>it's so weird. I just feel like women are survivors

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<v Speaker 3>through and through, Like we feel like we give us

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<v Speaker 3>a challenge and we're like we can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We can do it somehow, some way, We're gonna get through.

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<v Speaker 3>This mud and like get through it, and it is

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<v Speaker 3>a real thing. I know it's gonna be corny, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's just once your baby's there, it's just like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 3>like this is cool that they're part of me and

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<v Speaker 3>this is our new life and they love me unconditionally,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have something that's going to keep me responsible,

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<v Speaker 3>hold me accountable. So I I felt like I could

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<v Speaker 3>experiment and see if I can just grow up a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. Not saying that this new like I'm back.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a two year old and I'm back, but

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<v Speaker 3>I just felt like at that time, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>look sober up for nine months, Let's see if I

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<v Speaker 3>can do this. It was the hardest thing I have

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<v Speaker 3>to say. I have to And I have a best

0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.520
<v Speaker 3>friend that hopefully Dina shout out, I'm gonna see her

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<v Speaker 3>after this. She has a two month old and she

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<v Speaker 3>was the biggest smoker of all time. She would be

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<v Speaker 3>my husband, my husband morning and night and in between.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's that same person and she's been sober for

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<v Speaker 3>nine months and two months, you know, eleven months, and

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<v Speaker 3>she's just like, girl, and I'm just like, I feel you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so so hard and me's.

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<v Speaker 1>Only crackets sober, I mean so hard to be I

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<v Speaker 1>mean honestly, because I'm I'm listening to you and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally understand. And then I'm like, for people that

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<v Speaker 1>don't like, people that don't do any like these are

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<v Speaker 1>recovery on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to judge myself, I really did. And here's

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<v Speaker 3>what I decided to tell myself is that everyone has

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<v Speaker 3>a way that they live. Everyone has a reason to

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<v Speaker 3>wake up every morning and if their slate is clean

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<v Speaker 3>and they wake up with a clear head, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>just like, I don't need a thing to run around

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<v Speaker 3>this world, amazing and good for them. I need to

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<v Speaker 3>function to like release some stress. I need my things

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<v Speaker 3>and that's just the way I live. And we can

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<v Speaker 3>go into Trump and we can go into the past,

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<v Speaker 3>and girl, I need it. Like for me, that keeps

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<v Speaker 3>me my engine running. And look, I'm still a productive

0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.520
<v Speaker 3>ass person, right, you're susul. So I'm just like, that

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<v Speaker 3>is my story, I tell myself.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's a true story. I agree with that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that everyone has their things that they need to

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<v Speaker 1>be productive and sometimes and sometimes it's tea and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's to you know, that's mine happens to be both. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>actually coffee, but you know, whatequila. And people don't really

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<v Speaker 1>give women credit.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I always say this, but first of all, I

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<v Speaker 2>probably got pregnant because I was acting fucking crazy, like same,

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<v Speaker 2>partying with my baby daddy, just staying up all night, drinking,

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<v Speaker 2>just acting crazy. And when I got pregnant, I was

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<v Speaker 2>so fucking scared, even though I'd fucking known him like

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years. But I was like, wait, I didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>a two week notice, Like I wouldn't I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go hard for two weeks now that I know, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably like was like am I pregnant? And am I pregnant?

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<v Speaker 1>My periods are I'm like, let's go out.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I took a pregnancy test, you know, But

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's this whole and.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why we started our podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is it like because it's necessary that

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<v Speaker 2>we all come together and be authentic with ourselves and

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<v Speaker 2>with others without judging ourselves, because it gives people permission

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<v Speaker 2>to not cast judgment and not judge themselves. But the

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<v Speaker 2>truth of the matter is we're fucking human, and we're high,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're young or women, and we're we have our

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<v Speaker 2>own identities.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get pregnant, suddenly there's this flush of oh shit, I

0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.920
<v Speaker 2>have to be this different type of person. You judge

0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.879
<v Speaker 2>how you used to be, the things you've done, because

0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.439
<v Speaker 2>now you're a mother and there's like this title. But

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's like that first two years that we

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 2>talked about that you're just congratulations coming out of and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like trying to find out like a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>your old self with probably like not snorting a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of drugs and then not.

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<v Speaker 3>None at all right now on the earth right and

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<v Speaker 3>then alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, and then the piece of yourself that's like catering

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<v Speaker 2>and being an example to someone else. And it's a

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<v Speaker 2>huge fucking transition, and men really don't have to do

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<v Speaker 2>it immediately because you don't have to carry the fucking baby.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred and ten percent. I think that we should

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<v Speaker 3>also be destigmatizing that there's a direct relation with using

0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:54.679
<v Speaker 3>recreational drugs or you know, items that make you happy

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<v Speaker 3>inside with like yes, I think You guys have talked

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<v Speaker 3>about in a past podcast that there's certain types of

0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:04.879
<v Speaker 3>type of cannabis flowers that you know, when you're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be productive on Indiga and you know sativa,

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<v Speaker 3>you could be like, you know what, I could function today.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just like educating yourself. It's not like whatever

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<v Speaker 3>is down to go up my nose. That was Natalie

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<v Speaker 3>in high school early college. But I'm an adult woman

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.080
<v Speaker 3>and I know the things that make me happy. But

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<v Speaker 3>what about the woman that has a prosecco every fucking day?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? You know they have something every day and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just we I'm almost like, I'm glad I'm still

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<v Speaker 3>here because I have skeletons in my closet that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just like, I wake up every day having to face that,

0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.800
<v Speaker 3>having to be reminded of that. So I'm just like,

0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:46.440
<v Speaker 3>we made it. We are functioning. You have a successful podcast.

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.919
<v Speaker 3>I have a business, and we get to do all

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:50.440
<v Speaker 3>of this too. It's almost like we want to welcome

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:52.560
<v Speaker 3>people into the world like guess what you can do both?

0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 3>You can do it all right. You have to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to live with the darkness.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to be able to embrace your the beast

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<v Speaker 2>inside of you, like it is a it's a life

0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:07.480
<v Speaker 2>lesson to like embrace the duality of it. Nobody is perfect,

0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:09.560
<v Speaker 2>even if that's what they show you all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Not to take a dark turn. But there's stories where

0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 3>you can just say like, I've had enough and I

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:17.760
<v Speaker 3>almost want to be like I wish I could have

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 3>covered that person in love and a joint and been

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<v Speaker 3>like baby, that's like I promise, if you just release

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<v Speaker 3>and not worry about people judging you, you can be

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 3>set free in your mind for those hours that you're

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<v Speaker 3>on this ride with me. And that's how I really feel,

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<v Speaker 3>because think about how crazy even now twenty twenty is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's enough to go insane. Yeah, we can judge or

0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.600
<v Speaker 3>we can feel good right now. So right now, I'm

0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna do that. I'm gonna be political. I'm gonna make

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:47.880
<v Speaker 3>the smart choices and take a stand and be an activist.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm also gonna get fucked up and numb for

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<v Speaker 3>a me. I'll see my kids in an.

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<v Speaker 1>Hour, right amen.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen, A lot going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be just and also I'm gonna get sucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to do about home and take we got

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<v Speaker 2>to at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I agree. I mean I think that we feel

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 1>like you have to lose a part of yourself, you know,

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>And like Jamila was saying, like there's this big transition

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<v Speaker 1>like from being you know, the girl used to be

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 1>having this baby, and then it's like, Okay, I'm doing

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>this thing, and then when I have the baby, it's

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<v Speaker 1>back to like the old thing again, right, And it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, it's not, and like what does that

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<v Speaker 1>look like? It's just it's confusing and it takes time.

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<v Speaker 1>And for those listening that just have like maybe you

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.120
<v Speaker 1>have two year olds, like you know, we have six

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<v Speaker 1>year olds, and I know there's pir of people that

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<v Speaker 1>listen that have twenty year olds, you know. Like I remember,

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:37.680
<v Speaker 1>if I knew what I knew now and I'm only

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 1>five years in, like I would have been so much

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:40.440
<v Speaker 1>more forgiving on myself.

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<v Speaker 4>When I first had Iri, I was so hard on myself.

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was supposed to be this certain

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<v Speaker 1>way and like I didn't know how I was gonna

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I felt like my dreams, my goals, like I already

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like wasn't sure what I wanted to do,

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:53.119
<v Speaker 1>and then.

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<v Speaker 4>Motherhood made me even more insecure in the beginning.

0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>The empowerment came obviously later, and I like, I absolutely

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.199
<v Speaker 1>think like most a lot of mothers know that feeling

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>like that feeling of that motherhood really has empowered you

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>and made you feel more confident in so many ways.

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 4>But for me, at first, I didn't. I was like,

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, what am I doing.

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not successful at anything, Like I've been acting my

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>whole life, and I feel like I haven't had my

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 1>like big break or something, and like my mom has

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a successful brand, but I don't know if I want

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.200
<v Speaker 1>to follow my mom's footsteps. My father was a pro athlete.

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I have all these shoes to fill. What the fuck

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>am I going to do? What am I doing? Am

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 1>I good at anything? Like I don't know. I have

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a baby daddy who's like, you know, he's getting a

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.439
<v Speaker 1>lot of attention, and like maybe I should just support

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:34.639
<v Speaker 1>him because he's really good at it, you know. And

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 1>like I started to lose myself and not really know

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>who I was and who I am, and like it's

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>just like you get to that point and like we

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:44.640
<v Speaker 1>are we're a tribute to that like that you can

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:46.679
<v Speaker 1>do that, you find that and like for you, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Like I look at the community that

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 1>you've built and like I'm in all of you. I

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 1>really am, because you do have two children and you

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>have built an amazing community. You have events like real event,

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>nice events. Guys. Her events are fucking she there, she

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:07.919
<v Speaker 1>is fucking the k is fucking me. And I think

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 1>we even talked about your event we went to. We

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>did our Coachella episode two years ago or last year.

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>It was part of our mom Cella.

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 2>It was Yeah, when first we went to this, like

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 2>she it was like the most classy mom event you

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.360
<v Speaker 2>can You can imagine you guys.

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Rolled up cheek as fucked too, like who's that girl?

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Like we had looks okay, we had our outfits together

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and little.

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 3>Do you know, we like planned to stalk.

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 2>You that day. We had like a game talk a

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 2>talk in the car like she's okay, so this is

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 2>what she looks like, her name is, Okay, this is

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 2>what we're doing.

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Because we had just started our our our community, like

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>starting to build our we were looking at yours like wow,

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>how fucking amazing, how.

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Amazing, and like we were trying.

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>We're thinking. We have done a couple of events at

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that point, I'm like, how does she do this?

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Out of town and so many people are there, like

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 3>people gave her it was beautiful.

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>She didn't buy that.

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 4>I was like, we didn't.

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>We didn't need friends with her. We didn't know our secret.

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 3>The way I'm doing talking the whole time, it's like

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 3>you're wedding every time. You guys know that at this

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 3>point you don't know. We were like, we're gonna manifest

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 3>the right. So we go in there.

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 2>We had like a game plan and we go in

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 2>the kitchen to eat and we're talking and then would

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 2>just look up and she's like hi.

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, look, look she's wed. To find

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>her Yeah, with her, I think your breastfeeding, walked up.

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 2>To hang and then we had and then we were

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 2>all talking and I was like, wow, we just like

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 2>totally just laid out the plan and she just walked

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 2>right to us.

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 3>In the middle of the conversation, one of the chicks

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 3>comes up and she's like that.

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 2>At is the is the rice is the rice and

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 2>salad glitten free and vegan. And you're like you're like

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 2>to stop me, like pose like yeah, of course, and

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>then you keep going and then you go it's not

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 2>the most fucking l a shit ever.

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we're all just laughing, la la, But it

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>was perfect.

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 3>It was just manifested and our plan was to stalk

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 3>you and look, here you are.

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Here you are.

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 4>We know we've manifested you into our seat.

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Literal love is beyond reciprocated. It's just one of those

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 3>things like at events, like you know, the moment you

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 3>walk in, I'm like, let's go away for like two

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 3>hours in gab But it's just you can one.

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Hundred you can't. There's no way you can connect with

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>every single person at all period. It's just no way.

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 3>And my only goal with fash moment is to reward

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 3>women that are just like, look, I'm going to try

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 3>to do my career, still have my identity still and

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 3>be a mom still. And look, sometimes mom will be

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 3>at the top and his career is going to be

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 3>at the top, but I have a baby in my hip, Like,

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna do both. It's not one of those things

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.640
<v Speaker 3>where we're singular at all. I don't work that way.

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's humanity. It's not I think that

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.360
<v Speaker 3>we wake up sometimes and we're just like my only

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 3>goal to day is I want to look cute today.

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 3>I want to take a good ig that makes me

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 3>feel good. You're still a good mom, You're still I know.

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 3>I believe in you, that you're you know, you're feeding

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 3>your children and you're making sure that they're set up

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 3>on their zoom like I believe that you can be

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 3>as many of the things as you want and guess what,

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 3>they're not going to be one hundred percent. I can't

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 3>tell you that I do anything one hundred percent as

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 3>much as the Sikh event you said. I can tell

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 3>you the little corners we cut, and I can tell

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 3>you the the fuck ups that happened and my fourth

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 3>trimester when you guys saw me and I see you

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 3>guys coming and I'm like, they're so hot, like a

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 3>gross flood. I got lots of skin and my baby

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 3>and like boobs are filled. It's just that we're all

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 3>judging ourselves all the fucking time, and only in thirty

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 3>six years of my life and my step free right

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 3>now where I'm like, I've had the maximum amount of

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 3>kids I'm gonna have. Bless your heart if you have more.

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just like I'm me, this is it, and

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna ride and be alive right.

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Right now, right, but in a beautiful place to be too.

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like for me, like I don't know if

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm done having kids, Like you know, I'm not married,

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm in a relationship now, I'm with someone who wants

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to have children. And I go back and forth, mostly

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>not bad girls, mostly not back to feeling like I

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>want them. But then there is this part of me

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>that's like, oh God, like maybe I do, like maybe

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I can have one more, but like to know, like

0:28:55.960 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm done now what you know, Like that's right. I

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like that also offers like the kind of like

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a beautiful freedom, right, but it's.

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.719
<v Speaker 3>A boundary thing, and it's a thing I probably need

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 3>it as having an addictive personality, like you're probably like

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 3>a much more sane and sound person for it. But

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 3>I create like a I'm done with this. I'll do

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 3>time blocking in my day. That's how I do it all,

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 3>even though I don't do it all like perfect, but

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 3>I do it all because I'm like, oh it's twelve pm,

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 3>turn off my like close my laptop and I'm.

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Gonna listen to Luis Miguel.

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 3>There's some Spanish and I'm just gonna dance around my

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 3>clubhouse because it's like my workout and my stressor my

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 3>stress reliever. And I just create these boundaries for myself

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 3>no matter what, even if I'm not done with a thing,

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 3>because my brain works that way.

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>So I need to be better. Honestly, I know better

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>at stopping things even if I didn't finish them, because

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I will keep going and going and going. But the

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>end I know I am and love, I'll keep going

0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and going going and then still won't finish. And it's

0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>like I probably could have finished shut down momentum re energizing.

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, Oh my god, if my man's listening to this,

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh but all.

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 3>The sloppy, I'm slappy all day. But that's my one

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 3>little thing that I do.

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just like a tip though, Like so that's

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a good one because I feel like if you like

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>for me, like I need to hear that, because I

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like there's a lot of people out there that

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to just take it.

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 4>And then I beat myself up. It's like no, it's

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 4>just like this is this is this is just the boundary.

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>That's the rule. We're gonna carry on the next day,

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, thank you for saying that.

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 3>No, I I just feel like I create these little

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 3>the games we play with ourselves, right, the games we create.

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I just create these.

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Little like games and boundaries and guidelines to exist. And

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I am that type of person that needs to do

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 3>that because leave me alone in a quiet room, all

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 3>alone with no one around, with no substances, and I've

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>got to face things that I've been in the past.

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 3>And I know I'm so dramatic at times, but I

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 3>just really do feel that way. I'm just kind of like,

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 3>why am I like this? Why? Why did I? Like

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 3>my mother never like had one man in her life,

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 3>but the men that she did choose to have in

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 3>her life for a long time were abusive men or

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 3>were like men that were just toxic. And those were

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 3>and it's I was raised by a single mother. Single

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 3>women are like gods to me. It's more about the

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 3>men that they brought into their life that are toxic,

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 3>that stayed in my mind. That's stuff around exactly. So,

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 3>and so what I did and I turned that ond.

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 3>This wasn't even part of like what we're talking about.

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 3>But I'm just going off.

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel so sick.

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 3>But it's like like the toxic men that we are

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 3>encountering with our parents or anyone in our childhood. We

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 3>were just like men are bad, right, So I just

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 3>like was like, I'm just.

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Gonna fuck with men.

0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh my fucking life. I'm gonna find a high guy

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.239
<v Speaker 3>we can follow in with me, fuck him, and then

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 3>fuck all his friends.

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what you do.

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 3>And you're just like, I have power over you, and

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 3>no matter what, even though they love me, if they're

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 3>too nice, I'm just like, I'm still going to fuck

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 3>you up.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm still gonna go.

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 3>And you're almost like justifying and you're seeking justice for

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 3>the bad.

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Men that hurt your mom. Seeking justice. Wow, And that's

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>my excuse, Like it's not okay. And how did your husband,

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>sorry boy, how did your husband come in here? I mean,

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>was or did the healing happen before that or was

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>it an ongoing thing?

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 3>It was literally right in the middle of it. So

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 3>my husband came in right in the middle of my

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 3>toxic relationship that I was.

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Just cheating on him with all his friends.

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 3>And I met my husband at a bar and he

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 3>came in with a girl and I sat on his lap,

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 3>and I was like you're cute and that's not okay.

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>And you know I'm twenty one years old, no twenty

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>years old.

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 3>He through my twenty first birthday and I just when

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 3>I was lap, and you know, not okay for him

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 3>that he accepted me, received me on his lap. But

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 3>we just had our moment. And look, the reason why

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I was still with my ex is he was younger

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 3>than me. You know, we're babies at that age, and

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 3>it's like we are just trying to stick it to

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 3>them all the time. So cheating was my abuse. He

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 3>was abusive towards me. So I was like, I'm going

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 3>to break your heart by telling you, like other men

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 3>make me feel good, and for men, that's almost.

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Exactly one. Tell him other men are better than the

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>way to the movies, even more money money.

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 2>And.

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 3>They'll crumble and melt. And this man lot wholesome, the

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 3>most wholesome person. And for me being like my raggedy

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 3>valley girl that just lives spicy, I was just like

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 3>he's just so sweet, and I was like, how can

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I corrupt him? But he sticks older than me and

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 3>he would pick me up. So we just started hanging

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 3>out and then my space this is all our communications

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 3>channel was my face. I would shout out on my

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Space me and my girl, we need to ride to Coachella.

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, I'm the guy you said on the lap,

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 3>like do you want to ride to Cotta? And I

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 3>was like okay, and I jump in the car with him.

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>This is not safe in this day in my Space,

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:27.439
<v Speaker 1>but you know what, it was kind of it's okay,

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not It's not safe for them at these strangers.

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten into cars by that I probably should have

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>been kidnapped twenty seven, right, it's.

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Safe for them than it is now. I feel like

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:41.240
<v Speaker 1>kids were more on the Internet than versus now creepy

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>old men can be on the Internet because they figured

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 1>it out. Like I was mostly talking to if I

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>was talking to an older guy and maybe he was

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.359
<v Speaker 1>like twenty one and I was sixteen. You know, yeah, yeah,

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you know there were creepers for sure. I don't want

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>to back, but you mostly just chat with.

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Your friends on AOL that you know exactly.

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 1>But my face was that place.

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I I met my boyfriend, the Michael Jackson person.

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I met him on my Space. As I remember recently,

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:06.879
<v Speaker 1>I was driving the other day and I was thinking.

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, I god. I had

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a boyfriend from my space and there was an it

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>was another guy, like a whole last boyfriend I had

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>that I forgot I did too all right because I

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>was driving towards Long Beach and I was like, I

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 1>had a boyfriend in Longrida's family on my Space Facebook.

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Suddenly you could do yeah, you could do anything exactly.

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 3>So this is the best flex that maybe it's a

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 3>young injury listening to guys.

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>What he did is we.

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Drove and he was like, let me tell you about

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 3>all the guys in my scene that are talking about you.

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>They all want to fuck you.

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 3>So at Coachella, like that guy wants to give you

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 3>a hotel room or wants to give you a drink

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, he wants to fuck you. So if you

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 3>want to hang out with me, like, I will make

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 3>sure that doesn't happen to you this trip. And I

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 3>was like, I don't want the town to thank you

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 3>very much.

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 3>And so he hung out with me and he was

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 3>literally truly kind the whole weekend, like the best like game,

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 3>that's the best game that me and my other we

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 3>are younger than him, and he would bring us beer.

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 3>We would like he did eat.

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 1>He held my girlfriend's hand, my best friend's hand, and

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even.

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 3>A thing because you're not that age.

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>We're all just like flow.

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 3>And the night that night, my mom she was like,

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 3>she called me and she said, Natalie, I don't know

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 3>if you're in you're still at Coachella, but I have

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 3>a time share. I let my my friend let me

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 3>use your time share so I have a place to

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 3>stay at night tonight. You guys don't want to sleep in.

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 1>The car, and I did.

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 3>And this guy was so wholesome. I was like, do

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 3>you want to stay at my mom's house. He's like, yeah,

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 3>of course. And he had a separate room and he

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 3>slept ir respectfully. And when we had Mexican food, and

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 3>my mom was like, you're gonna marry this guy? Like ew,

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 3>he's just so like corny and it all happens. But

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 3>I was just like and he told me in like

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 3>in retrospect. I was like, why were you so good?

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 3>He's like, of course I wanted to fuck, you know,

0:36:57.880 --> 0:36:58.879
<v Speaker 3>But he waited.

0:36:58.680 --> 0:36:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Like two months.

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 3>The long game. He let me get crazy. Two thousand

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 3>and four. We met two thousand and six. I was like,

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 3>this is too good. We're gonna break up.

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>For a whole year? Are you mean hold on?

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Broke up for a year? And I said if if

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 3>in three hundred and sixty five days, I still miss you,

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:19.800
<v Speaker 3>then it's good. And he was like, three hundred and

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 3>sixty five days, I'm like hi, And then he was

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 3>And I did all the things la night life like

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 3>I did all of it to live it out with twenty.

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sassy. And he still deals with me, and

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 3>he always still tells me till this day, are you

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 3>trying to sabotage things right now?

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Day? I've ever done couple therapy. I mean you've talked

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>about therapy, so I do therapy alone.

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 3>We've done couple therapy, but they always end up loving

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 3>him because he's the voice of reason. And I was

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 3>just like, I don't feel seen right now. I don't

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 3>like you. It's a therapy, Okay.

0:37:55.200 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Then I had a couple of therapies. I feel we

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>are I think I might.

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I know you're not.

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 3>I know you have the same sign, but you're my sister. Yeah,

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 3>And so I just I told him I need to

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.240
<v Speaker 3>work out some things. I said, honestly, you're the picture

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 3>of perfect when it comes to your life and everything

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.439
<v Speaker 3>you've been through. He said, his biggest issues he's had

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.360
<v Speaker 3>is like fitting in. And he came here from Moscow

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 3>when he was nine and he didn't speak English. So

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 3>his biggest issues were he was a good boy and

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 3>fitting into a bad world.

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>And I can't relate to that. I'm like, that's not

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a hard job. Oh what is he a cancer?

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 3>He's a real woman. And it's just it's been so

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 3>fun that I always say tame the world base It's

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.399
<v Speaker 3>not that deep. But it's just that I really feel

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 3>like he made me just like, I've been abused enough

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 3>and abused enough. How about this new life of like

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.800
<v Speaker 3>just like, and we're not wholesome. We partied our lives

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 3>away when we were together. We did all of the things.

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 3>And but you know what, he's the first one. If

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm on the verge of I've done enough of the thing,

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 3>he'll drive us home and he'll be like, I sobered

0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 3>up because I saw you in pain, So I'm gonna

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:03.280
<v Speaker 3>drive us. He's a responsible one, just you call a partner.

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>He knows how to read, and he took care of

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>you the first night.

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he waited for me. His patience is beyond

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 3>he was. He I always live like he waited for

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 3>me to grow up because you know that year I

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 3>just needed leaving a positive relationship because I'm like, it's

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 3>too good, goodbye. He could have been like fuck you, right,

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 3>but he waited five Okay, he still has a work

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 3>cut out for him. I'm not like turned.

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 2>But the fact that you've been together all this time

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 2>and that he can still look at you in your

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 2>face and say you're sabotaging shit, yeah, and like just

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 2>call you out and keep it moving, like look what

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:40.720
<v Speaker 2>you doing, bitch together.

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I'm seeing you right now. I'll say, throw

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 3>out the trash.

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.320
<v Speaker 1>And then he doesn't. I get home, like why didn't

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you throw it out? Like I need you to do it.

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Why don't you respect me? And he's like it's not

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 3>that deep, Like I didn't get to it today.

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I will get to it tomorrow. Don't try to like sabotage, yeah,

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 1>to be wrong here, Like I like, you just don't listen.

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 1>You just don't want to listen to it. You heard

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 1>me say it and you didn't have her.

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:09.720
<v Speaker 3>It's an inner child thing that us at our age,

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 3>like women of a Particular Age. We are trying to

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:17.919
<v Speaker 3>face her inner child. Oh oh my god, I don't

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 3>be calling.

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Me out like that.

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 4>Wait, is there a book called Women of a Particular Age?

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Because not there needs to because I feel like that's

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 1>a whole ass book, because I feel like there's a

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>particular age and there's different milestones. I think a little bit.

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.280
<v Speaker 3>There's like brackets, so there's like, no, you guys are babies. Honestly,

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 3>there's like twenty four to thirty four. You're in a

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 3>bracket thirty four to like forty three or something.

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:39.240
<v Speaker 4>Only I'm not afraid of age. I'm afraid of aging.

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with the number. I'm fine with the numbers.

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Give me all the numbers, bitch, I want the wisdom.

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Just gave me the same face. While we're here, I'm

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>started to feeling like she's like, you make up. I'm like, yes,

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I was sleeping upside down, lack

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>of skin carouteene or using the wrong product, and I

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.959
<v Speaker 1>us they're using too many, too many things.

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Times there's like a kindly general effect or.

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 4>Something just you know, they're like they're filling their face

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 4>and then they end up looking older.

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, look in their mode. I can't do a

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 1>high school right now.

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 3>It's trippy. I'm intimidated now. Honestly, I don't want to

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 3>be in high school at all.

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm scared of high school and babies.

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad.

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 1>All I had was like friends. As soon as I

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>go to college, I got one. But I had my Space.

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, my co contact, Instagram and TikTok and all

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>these goddamn dance videos.

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I can't very impressed by that this generation. But I'm

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 3>also like scared for them. I'm sore. Are they gonna

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 3>do when they're our age? They are so yeah, and

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 3>they know they're gonna they're gonna look they're.

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>So smart, but they have no idea what dumb pieces?

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 1>They have no idea what peace at twelve thirteen years old.

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>There's some that do. There's some that there said peace

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>like ryot, like disconnection overload. Even me, like I'm we're

0:41:57.560 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>on the edge of that. And I will say, like

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm one hundred and four hundred percent, four hundred percent

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>addicted to my phone, and like it is a problem.

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>What's your daily hours? I don't even want to I don't.

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Look at your hours.

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>No, I look at what they are, and I'm just like,

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't like, you know what it is. It's not

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>even that I'm addicted to my phone. I'm a dick

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>looking now, I'm addicted to my phone. I'diction to my

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>phone because work is on my phone. But then also

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.439
<v Speaker 1>like leisure is on my phone, so they're both there,

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>just there, and so it's easy for me to get there,

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 1>start working, take a break on my phone, go back

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 1>to work on my phone, then take another break looking

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 1>at some shit on my phone.

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Are the men you've ever been with on Instagram?

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>On phone?

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Are they on social media platforms?

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And it's so funny. My my my boyfriend now

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>is on Instagram, but he doesn't really use his phone

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot, so he gets really irritated with me. They

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>don't understand it, Yeah, but no, and I get it,

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I understand his frustration, but also like I'll be like,

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm working and then I'm like and then I'm not

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>working for like maybe forty five minutes, and he's like,

0:42:58.200 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 1>you're still on your phone. I'm like, I'm not. I'm

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>just confused.

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't use Instagram. My husband doesn't use Instagram.

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>At all.

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 3>He just uses Facebook to check on like family or

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 3>like share political views or something. But Instagram he does,

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, I don't like I could feel as

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 3>toxic there, and I'm just like, I literally need it

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 3>for my brand, right you have to?

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 3>So it's just like, I just wonder if men it's

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 3>a different it sorts a different purpose. I don't even

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 3>know if I want to be with a guy that's

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 3>like hardcore into branding on ig.

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 2>No, there's one of us, yeah, the only one of us. Yeah,

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 2>adventure Bait wasn't an Instagram guy. And I was happy

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>about that.

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>You like that.

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't need any men taking selfies. I don't

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 3>need you to be posting a lot of selfies of yourself.

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm good.

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.320
<v Speaker 3>I think Instagram is taking a dark turn though. I

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 3>think the way people are sharing, like their riches abundance,

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's toxic for people because this could be enough.

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Hanging out with your people could be enough. But if

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 3>you it is enough. But if you see that someone

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 3>else has only designer labels or only this that, or

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 3>their house is polished yet they have a child, or

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 3>they breastfed till their kid was one hundred like eighteen

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, you know, four years old. It's just they're

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 3>just so much judgment and so much one upping.

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>That it just it's so toxic.

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 3>And that's why it's like sorority culture. I could never

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:24.800
<v Speaker 3>join that in college.

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I was just like I need to shake shit up.

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 3>That's why we're scaling fashion momas because I'm like, I

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 3>don't want people in the group or on our fait

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:35.399
<v Speaker 3>fashion Mama's account that are just like always one.

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Uping each other. We have to show the mess too,

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like so messy. Well you know what, I

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>don't have to.

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I commend you for like showing the mess too, because

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, like, of course me and Eric can do

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 2>it because we've almost conditioned ourselves to get more.

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Comfortable and odd for you guys, honestly and even for

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 3>us it.

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Gets hard, but like for you to come on here,

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 2>be honest, keep it real and like you guys when

0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 2>we say she was like the chakest cheakest brain endeavor, yeah,

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>like I'm I'm not not that I'm surprised. I you know,

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.399
<v Speaker 2>I know you're cool, but I'm like, this is such

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:11.240
<v Speaker 2>a good message for like just for the mom community period,

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>because it appears like so.

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Much and there's just there's so much beneath the surface,

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 3>you know. So I appreciate you.

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of your brand, did you start it? I mean

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you started it in hop.

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Twenty fourteen, and so you were no resources like this.

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Girl, right? And how old were how old was your child?

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 3>But so why mestitis?

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Back to back?

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I had rebounds and mistitas with Diego.

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Wait, what is mistitis? Oh?

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Thank god, you don't know what that is.

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, it's a it's a oh my god, infection in

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>your breast.

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh when you're trying to breastfeed, and blood and bacteria sorry,

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 3>is going into your work back into your body and

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 3>it feels like glass inside your boobs.

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh no.

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 3>And I had that three times with Diego, and then

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 3>by fourth month he was like smooth sailing. But I

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 3>kept going because I'm just such a massive kiss I guess,

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 3>or like addicted, and so I was just like I

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 3>gotta see if I could do it, and thank god,

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 3>I was able to overcome it. But women that want

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 3>to stop. When that first hurt, my mom told me

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 3>you hurt a little, and I started formula feeding you.

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 3>I came out fine, it's all good.

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I am your mom. No what I'm saying. I mean

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I had rest fund for four months maybe yeah, four months,

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and it just became too hard for me. And then

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>they were like you can, you can give her the

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>bottles like I can boom. But I do wish that,

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>like I had more people that would have would have

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>empowered me to keep going.

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I had no one.

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Everyone was like, yeah, just do that.

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Her dad was like sounds like he's right. My mom's like.

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, it's so isolating.

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:47.320
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And so when I created Fashion Moms, I was

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 3>just the only reason I was doing it was because

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 3>I care about my job so much. Like I know,

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I just had a baby, but I can't write to

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:55.760
<v Speaker 3>wait to write that story or go back to Paris

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 3>Fashion Week or whatever. And I was like, I wonder

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 3>if there's other moms that are having this dilemma of

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 3>also caring a lot about their career and their kid

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 3>even though their kid was just born. Because I've met

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 3>so many mothers that are like, this is my life's purpose.

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:09.879
<v Speaker 3>Thank God for all of those women.

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't in me.

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.800
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, I don't have postpartum depression I

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 3>have more of just like, damn, I'm still me inside.

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to do all of the other things.

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 3>And I'll have you know, I had maybe in twenty fourteen.

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 3>I had my first OD in two thousand and eight,

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 3>and I was sober till then. I didn't do anything

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 3>because I was so shook, like stared straight. So I

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 3>had a long time to recover. But so I was

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 3>just like, I want experiment and put together some of

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:40.720
<v Speaker 3>the women in the fashion industry, so models, designers, artists, editors,

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 3>and just have them talk amongst each other. And I

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:45.279
<v Speaker 3>loved putting on an event because I was already a

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 3>fashion editor, so I was working with RACT. I was

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 3>a senior editor there and I was like gift bags,

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, all the fun things. So I had a

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.840
<v Speaker 3>lot of brand contacts and I loved that aspect of it.

0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 3>And I said, why don't I put them all in

0:47:58.000 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 3>a room and see if I can learn from them?

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 3>And in turn, they're like, yeah, Natalie, we love you.

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 3>And they're all talking organically, and I love that they

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 3>were just gluing to each other, and the right after

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 3>the event, they were just like, when's the next one?

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 3>And I didn't know that there was a next one.

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 3>I just thought it and I was like fashion Mamaska

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 3>just because I hashtagged that in like November twenty fourteen,

0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 3>and so many women were like, that's me, that's me.

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 3>And then I was like, fucking trademark that you know.

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 1>And then.

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 3>By December, I was like, I don't know, do people

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 3>ever like create membership? So who house? I'm a member,

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 3>a longtime members so I was just always like, they

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 3>do a membership, you know, should I? And I did

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 3>a membership and there weren't communities like that yet, and

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is my favorite thing, like to

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:47.720
<v Speaker 3>organize events for everyone, and just I'm type as fucks.

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 3>So they all are multitalented and dynamic as fuck and

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:55.840
<v Speaker 3>they do things I can never do. But I know

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 3>how to be the one to create the event and

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 3>plant and so they were like, we like that you

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:03.440
<v Speaker 3>do that, and you can put us all in the

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 3>same room and be the icebreaker. And I have the

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm a negotiator, and I know how to put together

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 3>a deck and a sales pitch, and I have a

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 3>business mind. So it was all of the things I

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 3>love to do, and I'm a writer, so we had

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 3>an editorial leg of everything, and I was just like,

0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 3>how fun is this? And by the way, I didn't

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 3>leave my job for two years after running fashion MoMA,

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 3>so I was doing both.

0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I was.

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 3>An editor and doing fashion Mamas and it was a

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 3>hard job. And I didn't ask for help during that

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 3>time because I was so scared to ask for help.

0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you just feel like moms sometimes feel like they

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.239
<v Speaker 3>have to run the world and be drained and be

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.280
<v Speaker 3>a shell of theirselves by the end, and that shows

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:46.320
<v Speaker 3>that you're productive. And then by twenty sixteen, I was like,

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 3>maybe I should get an assistant because we actually are

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 3>getting revenue. And I blew up organically. And that's my story.

0:49:53.719 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't like to share with people. Buy into me,

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.319
<v Speaker 3>and I'll tell you the secrets of my business. I'll

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 3>tell you right now, right it's not that deep, like

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:06.719
<v Speaker 3>believe in yourself, have crazy ambition, Like ambition is like

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:10.800
<v Speaker 3>the top of the top of the top, be obsessed

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 3>and you wake up if you're thinking about that when

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 3>you wake up, like how can I tweak this and

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:15.360
<v Speaker 3>make it special?

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:17.400
<v Speaker 4>Then you're in the right profession.

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:19.360
<v Speaker 3>If you're like, how can I make a business to

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 3>make me money? Universe will will.

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Be like, m You're in it for the wrong reasons.

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 1>So true, It's so true.

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 3>And so here it is six hundred members in members

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 3>from Austin to Australia. In LA we have four hundred

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 3>members alone. And it's just been this thing where they

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 3>let me be unapologetically me, and I've become more of

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:44.080
<v Speaker 3>me in twenty twenty. And yeah, it's just it's amazing

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:47.320
<v Speaker 3>that in this day and age that something like this

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:49.560
<v Speaker 3>can exist for women because I feel like I'm really

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 3>helping them be more of like be their real authentic

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 3>selves all the time. And I don't know, I just

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:01.799
<v Speaker 3>it's corny, but I'm just like, I just I'm at

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.719
<v Speaker 3>service to them and I just want women and all

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 3>people to win. And I say all people because I

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 3>created another community too.

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I know. Congratulations. I saw that. That's amazing. And what's

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 1>that one called is that's that's not just for moms,

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that's for that's really for everyone, which is really cool.

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 1>It's called Creative Career Club. And my big thing was

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 1>when I was a fashion editor, I.

0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Was writing about my favorite trans designers, my favorite male designers,

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 3>my favorite women designers that happened to not be moms

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:32.800
<v Speaker 3>that happened to be moms, My favorite non binary like

0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 3>all people. And that's always been my core. The reason

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 3>why I created fashion Mom is because I literally saw

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.479
<v Speaker 3>a void in the universe. Verse was like creative bitch,

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:46.560
<v Speaker 3>and so I nailed what a community takes. So I

0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 3>have so many friends that are just like men and

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 3>women that are just like, can you ask your community

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 3>if they have like a graphic designer? And I was

0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:56.880
<v Speaker 3>just like, wait, I see all of these like business

0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 3>minded platforms.

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Why like is that a thing? It's like, oh, it's

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:04.440
<v Speaker 1>only female empowerment. Well, there's a little a feel of trust,

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:07.840
<v Speaker 1>like people like the trust. Yes, even though talking to

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Mila today, like and I'm like I feel like we've

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:11.680
<v Speaker 1>leaned on our community for things that like she did

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 1>tell me this today and like and like I just

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 1>feel like these are the people I want to ask. Actually, yes,

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>they know me, they know what I like, they know

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:20.319
<v Speaker 1>what I want, Like.

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Like like yeah, there are people we go to we

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 2>like plan Dinners in New York and say hey, just

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 2>meet us and we'll see what happens. And every time

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 2>it's like we have to create real friendships and real

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 2>bonds because we've like gravitated towards people who are the

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:36.479
<v Speaker 2>same Jerica and Mila.

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:38.399
<v Speaker 3>I want to say one thing, no matter what someone

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 3>goes like, they're onto something like badass moms, did it

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:46.239
<v Speaker 3>something that'll They'll never be as you, They'll never be you.

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm here for you, guys, like I want to hear

0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:51.799
<v Speaker 3>from you and your thoughts and your unraveling and then

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 3>the wins and the challenges. That's the thing.

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:56.279
<v Speaker 1>No one is youer than you.

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 3>And I just feel like with fashion moments, a lot

0:52:59.920 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 3>of people when I created the application form for CCC,

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:06.439
<v Speaker 3>I'll see why do you want to join?

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:08.759
<v Speaker 1>And they'll say, because you're proven that.

0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:10.800
<v Speaker 3>You have a successful community and there's a lot of

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 3>paid memberships out there, and you've built something that I've

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 3>been watching along the way, and I want that for me.

0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 3>And I don't fit into the box that you've created

0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:21.480
<v Speaker 3>for FM. And it's just as simple. It's not like

0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 3>I want to create what we're building with FM but

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 3>broad in it. And it's not a wider net on

0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:29.879
<v Speaker 3>purpose to drive a revenue. That's like everyone's a pond.

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:32.759
<v Speaker 3>It's like, no, you know, more people you're more than

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.319
<v Speaker 3>You're more than a mom. You're more than a mom.

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:36.879
<v Speaker 3>I miss it so much.

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I have so many friends. You have an amazing mother

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 1>community and like in order to be in fashion, mama's

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the one requirement a is to be a mother. So yes,

0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you've cultivated a community for motherhood and mothers, creatives and

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:54.879
<v Speaker 1>everyone alike. But like you also there's also creative side,

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 1>your creative life, and a lot of times have applied

0:53:57.480 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>for that and like God blessed it.

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 3>That's awesome. There's different opportunities there. Because I want to

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 3>make sure that's like loud and clear.

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:07.360
<v Speaker 1>But I have a question, how what is the application

0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>because I'm a member of sol house too, and like

0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 1>that was like very you know political, and I am

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 1>too because in LA because I I've remember what maybe

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>three years now, but like the l A house that

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>was like the house is full, Like I don't know,

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:22.879
<v Speaker 1>I can.

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:29.880
<v Speaker 3>The members only community and elite anything or like exclusive anything.

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:34.359
<v Speaker 3>It causes for elitism and I've been called the world.

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Well look I get it. I get it, like I

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 1>get cultivating a community a safe space where everyone feels

0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 1>safe and there's are so many different personalities and it's

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:47.319
<v Speaker 1>there's just there's there's just two different levels to this ship.

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the only way I can say it.

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:52.200
<v Speaker 1>And so I understand that. So that's why I'm and like,

0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:53.959
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm curious because even like with our events,

0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>like from like me and Jamila, sometimes we would have

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:59.360
<v Speaker 1>events at my house, there's people like I don't know everyone,

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't by strangers to my home.

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 3>But like it's all about strangers. It's all about vibe,

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:06.160
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's like we don't want to make.

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.880
<v Speaker 1>It sound like I met someone one time. Some of

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:11.320
<v Speaker 1>my best friends now.

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Like Nisha, I didn't like shout out an she's getting a.

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Moment of it, the moment she introduced.

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 3>You literally know each other because of Nih.

0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 1>This is I'm gonna slide this in real quick. This

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.239
<v Speaker 1>is not a paid ad. But if you if you've

0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 1>heard of us talking about moms, if you've seen us

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:31.399
<v Speaker 1>post on Instagram about Nisha, she's the bitch that makes

0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the baw mass cakes. You see.

0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:37.720
<v Speaker 2>She also curates all of our events, elevated room events.

0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:41.120
<v Speaker 2>She basically does everything perfect No, but if you're you're

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 2>a perfectly shaped like no, she's gorgeous. Maybe he had

0:55:44.200 --> 0:55:45.439
<v Speaker 2>a helmet, so I watch head.

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:49.760
<v Speaker 1>She's gorgeous, her husband's gorgeous, her child's gorgeous. It's annoying,

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 1>but listen, she makes great case if you're in l

0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:55.880
<v Speaker 1>A and you need baked or events or even want

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to plan a wedding, Like she's literally playing a wedding too,

0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 1>So shout out to nishe you know.

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:04.080
<v Speaker 3>And so with that said, she I didn't know her

0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:07.239
<v Speaker 3>from anyone, but she joined this and I'm sure she

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:11.360
<v Speaker 3>walked in. I'm not underestimating the applicant. She walked into this,

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:13.920
<v Speaker 3>and she's just like, I will invest in something like

0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:16.440
<v Speaker 3>this because I see someone like a vibe that I'm

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:19.840
<v Speaker 3>interested in. So it's more about that. It's not an elitism,

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:22.800
<v Speaker 3>it's nothing or nothing. It's like, what's your vibe. You're like,

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 3>you use your voice for change and your individual in

0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.759
<v Speaker 3>your expression. And she was just like, that's me. So

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 3>if she saw a brand that she's just like, that's

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:35.799
<v Speaker 3>not for me, but I'm taking all moms, I'm taking

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:36.399
<v Speaker 3>what I can get.

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Give me your tuition.

0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 3>But she'd be like, I could feel that you guys

0:56:39.800 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 3>are just down for whatever. I make a book, right,

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.439
<v Speaker 3>and that's not what I do. And so when women

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 3>are mad that, you know, we don't accept. And by

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:49.359
<v Speaker 3>the way, it's all backgrounds of all women. And I've

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:51.759
<v Speaker 3>gotten a lot of different hate mail.

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:53.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's just like we're creating.

0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 3>And I don't like to say, like say family with

0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.480
<v Speaker 3>community because it sounds like culty. But it's just like

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 3>we're just creating an energy that when you're in our

0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:05.920
<v Speaker 3>space you can gain something from the people you talk to.

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're on the same level.

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 3>And it's not like you're all have one hundred thousand

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:12.680
<v Speaker 3>followers or you're all founders of this.

0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:14.919
<v Speaker 1>It's not that it's what you said.

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:16.400
<v Speaker 3>It's a vibe you're curating.

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a vibe. It's yeah, but it is. It is

0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 1>like a fine web of like how oh this person,

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 1>oh you work in this like say you work in beauty,

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh you work in you know, tech. Somehow they can

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 1>still come together or like oh maybe you are in

0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe you're saying at home mom, but you you know,

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>but you're you're saying at home mom, but.

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Like you have.

0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:44.160
<v Speaker 3>Well you're simply in the fashion creative world. Like we

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:46.920
<v Speaker 3>have a jewelry designer in the group, it's so subdued

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:50.200
<v Speaker 3>and quiet, and bless her for it. And she doesn't

0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 3>like speak, she's not like us, but I know that

0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 3>she brings something because I love what she builds and creates,

0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 3>and I love that she's just speaking to a spec

0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 3>market and we believe in that. So you're not gonna

0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:04.560
<v Speaker 3>always see a girl in there that's like wearing the

0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 3>lowest whatever and drinking all of the things. It's not

0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:10.680
<v Speaker 3>about that. It's just it's a vibe. And unless you're

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 3>a community leader, like I know, it's hard to target

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 3>exactly what you mean by that.

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 1>But also I think, even speaking back to what you

0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:19.920
<v Speaker 1>said about you know.

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:22.520
<v Speaker 2>When you get a certain age, you start to address

0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 2>your inner child. There's just a thing like in general,

0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 2>as you grow and as you hopefully as you hit

0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:30.479
<v Speaker 2>different you know, you grow an age, there are things

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 2>that come to forefront and things that you know are

0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:37.480
<v Speaker 2>become important, one of which immediately you start to be like,

0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:39.800
<v Speaker 2>who am I spending giving my energy to?

0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Who am I around?

0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 2>What are they about? What are their goals? Where are

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:46.280
<v Speaker 2>they going? Where are they headed? And are we in

0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:48.360
<v Speaker 2>a like minded place? When I come around you and

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 2>then I leave, am I gaining. Do I feel fulfilled

0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:54.040
<v Speaker 2>and happy? Do I feel like I've gained something? Have

0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:56.720
<v Speaker 2>you motivated me and inspired me and left me feeling

0:58:57.160 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 2>full and hungry? Because overall, like that's the goal of life,

0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Like money, while Instagram is cool, All these things are cool,

0:59:03.840 --> 0:59:05.200
<v Speaker 2>but like, do I feel good?

0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:06.160
<v Speaker 1>And am I growing?

0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 5>And I think when you grow spiritually, you inevitably that

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 5>you grow in finances in abundance because you're aligned with

0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:17.320
<v Speaker 5>your purpose, You're being authentically.

0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:20.440
<v Speaker 1>You, and so you know, I think people can be.

0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, how you know I don't have enough Instagram

0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 2>followers somebody that's why I'm not in the club or X,

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Y and Z. But it's almost like not a filtering

0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 2>of Yeah, Like I even tell Erica with like even

0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 2>with Niches, our friend, her husband Brandon, all of our

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:37.320
<v Speaker 2>friends literally were like, damn, we can go within for

0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 2>mostly anything a cake, an event, photography, video and production

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:44.720
<v Speaker 2>and editing, make up.

0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we really put.

0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 4>Our head, my life is a fashioned mama community, right.

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:52.320
<v Speaker 1>You curate your life in the same way that you

0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 1>would curate the space that you want to create.

0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Anybody who's listening that is like, I don't understand why

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:01.400
<v Speaker 3>you don't accept everyone. Right, Think about if you were

1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:05.040
<v Speaker 3>creating a community for whatever your industry is, tech or

1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:07.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, kitchen whar or whatever it is. So you're

1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:11.320
<v Speaker 3>telling me that you would just take any monies from

1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:14.360
<v Speaker 3>people because you want to gain as many people as

1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:16.880
<v Speaker 3>you want. That's not healthy for you, and that's not

1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 3>healthy for the person.

1:00:17.880 --> 1:00:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I think also, like people would join your community and

1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:22.760
<v Speaker 1>be like, I don't fit in here and then leave

1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:25.760
<v Speaker 1>because the same same like people come to visit our podcast, Like,

1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 1>for example, we were just talking about that when we

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:30.920
<v Speaker 1>first signed up we first started our podcast. Somehow, I

1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:32.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know how this happened to you guys, but we

1:00:33.000 --> 1:00:36.600
<v Speaker 1>were in the religion and spiritual section of Apple Podcast. Okay,

1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:37.680
<v Speaker 1>could you I don't want me to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get more bad religious experience for me, but okay, okay, okay,

1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:43.280
<v Speaker 3>I agree.

1:00:43.320 --> 1:00:45.160
<v Speaker 1>But like people that are looking for God and they're

1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:47.360
<v Speaker 1>listening to us, they're either gonna hate us or love us.

1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:50.520
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna leave immediately, you know, Like you have to

1:00:50.640 --> 1:00:53.600
<v Speaker 1>know your like we know your audience. If people like

1:00:53.760 --> 1:00:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you either like good Mom's bad choices or you think

1:00:57.200 --> 1:01:00.160
<v Speaker 1>we're fucking annoying, you think we're terrible parents. I don't know,

1:01:00.600 --> 1:01:04.560
<v Speaker 1>but like I think, like you cut the fat off

1:01:04.600 --> 1:01:06.840
<v Speaker 1>of shit when you know what your brand is. And

1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I think knowing what your brand is this is really important.

1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, we don't really talk about like business

1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:14.360
<v Speaker 1>or podcasting on this on our show a lot, but

1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:16.400
<v Speaker 1>like I think even me and me and Jamille like

1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:20.640
<v Speaker 1>having a brand essentially, like we've really understood like who

1:01:20.680 --> 1:01:23.840
<v Speaker 1>we are, what we what we what we talk about represent,

1:01:24.160 --> 1:01:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and what our topics are and it's and it's always

1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:30.400
<v Speaker 1>authentic because it's authentically us. And I think that's really

1:01:30.440 --> 1:01:33.800
<v Speaker 1>what it's come down to, is understanding who we are authentically.

1:01:34.160 --> 1:01:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Are we perfect? Do we have it all figured out?

1:01:36.400 --> 1:01:40.720
<v Speaker 1>A futly? Not right? But what I do know is that,

1:01:41.080 --> 1:01:45.960
<v Speaker 1>like I know, like who I am, I'm still figuring

1:01:46.000 --> 1:01:48.200
<v Speaker 1>out what I need and what I want for that person.

1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:50.880
<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, we have a platform where

1:01:50.880 --> 1:01:52.160
<v Speaker 1>people join us on this journey.

1:01:53.680 --> 1:01:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Do you know how much of a gift it is,

1:01:55.320 --> 1:01:59.360
<v Speaker 3>by the way, ladies, to give your whole selves and

1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:02.520
<v Speaker 3>share this. There's so many people that feel this inside

1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:05.000
<v Speaker 3>what you guys are sharing, and they just hold it

1:02:05.120 --> 1:02:07.919
<v Speaker 3>in because they're just like unpolished. I got my shit together,

1:02:08.120 --> 1:02:10.120
<v Speaker 3>and you're just like, I got my shit together, but

1:02:10.200 --> 1:02:12.800
<v Speaker 3>here are the things that are unraveling lately. And that's

1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:15.280
<v Speaker 3>such a gift to know how to articulate it.

1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:19.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's articulation. I mean maybe sometimes

1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. Honestly, it's it's there.

1:02:23.400 --> 1:02:23.800
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

1:02:23.880 --> 1:02:28.040
<v Speaker 1>It's there, and our community has meant so much we

1:02:28.120 --> 1:02:31.280
<v Speaker 1>have this. Honestly, sometimes I call it accidental. I guess

1:02:31.320 --> 1:02:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it was accidental at first, but now it's very intentional.

1:02:34.160 --> 1:02:37.720
<v Speaker 1>And I think like with that intentionality is that a

1:02:37.800 --> 1:02:42.280
<v Speaker 1>word with it comes comes that like protection, and comes

1:02:42.360 --> 1:02:45.520
<v Speaker 1>that like curation and like, so going back to like

1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:48.280
<v Speaker 1>how you curate your brand, like I understand it. I

1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:49.400
<v Speaker 1>get it and like and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take all of the like l's along the way

1:02:52.320 --> 1:02:54.920
<v Speaker 3>that people are just like I get it all, like

1:02:55.080 --> 1:02:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I'll get all of the hate mail. Just it's just

1:02:57.960 --> 1:03:00.760
<v Speaker 3>it's so important in the end to make sure that

1:03:01.120 --> 1:03:07.120
<v Speaker 3>the crew feels feels like cohesive, right because I just

1:03:07.200 --> 1:03:11.919
<v Speaker 3>can't yell louder that Okay, you know what, free reign.

1:03:13.080 --> 1:03:15.480
<v Speaker 3>The community will come in, you'll pop in that like

1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:19.520
<v Speaker 3>I admire greatly, and you'll just be like, literally, it's

1:03:19.520 --> 1:03:23.400
<v Speaker 3>a free for all peace you really all want. And

1:03:23.800 --> 1:03:25.440
<v Speaker 3>you know what, there's something like that, and I don't

1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:27.720
<v Speaker 3>think it should be paid. If it's for everyone, I

1:03:27.760 --> 1:03:29.840
<v Speaker 3>don't think any like something like that should be paid.

1:03:30.040 --> 1:03:33.200
<v Speaker 2>And also, you know what, it's a good like it's

1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:36.800
<v Speaker 2>a it's a good check, you know, like not check

1:03:36.880 --> 1:03:39.320
<v Speaker 2>like it checks you, because I think even for us.

1:03:39.440 --> 1:03:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh wow, this is very classy, this is very elegant.

1:03:42.200 --> 1:03:45.600
<v Speaker 3>These women are very smart and expensive fit.

1:03:46.080 --> 1:03:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually no, but no, but but I'm saying it actually

1:03:51.880 --> 1:03:52.520
<v Speaker 3>grime to no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, remember the first spash Moms and that even even come.

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<v Speaker 1>I came to a photo shoot and I left you

1:03:58.640 --> 1:04:01.600
<v Speaker 1>in the car. Oh yeah, I was so cut that

1:04:02.760 --> 1:04:04.080
<v Speaker 1>you had to take her. I don't know where.

1:04:04.560 --> 1:04:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I just wat to the bathroom, but we stopped that

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<v Speaker 3>you stayed in.

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<v Speaker 1>We would have I don't have it. I don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>the membership. I'm not going to come in.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know ticket. It was me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was my fault. I literally was like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>just back, I wasn't with me. Actually it was like

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<v Speaker 1>I took a solo picture I remember because that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I met.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like in the city, yes, yeah, story,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like I left a facial place in the front.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like yeah, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Laughing at myself thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, no, And it's funny because it all comes

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<v Speaker 1>full circle because, like I told, because I had never

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<v Speaker 1>been to like I think even maybe just i'd never

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<v Speaker 1>really been.

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<v Speaker 4>That was after I didn't know how fucking memberships go.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you stay here. Well, well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Can seem really intimidating, but it doesn't have to know

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<v Speaker 2>it isn't And like I think I think as even

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And we're in a community where we encourage

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<v Speaker 2>like a safe space and non judgment and all these things.

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<v Speaker 3>But like as soon as we got to that event,

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<v Speaker 3>mam arz.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was like, everybody's cool, and I like everyone

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<v Speaker 2>looks every you know, you have you build up this

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<v Speaker 2>thing in your mind and like you see these women,

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, well, what's the requirements to get in here?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's an impression that people, if it's something successful,

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<v Speaker 3>it must be uptight or it must write. But then

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<v Speaker 3>you get there and it's just like a group of

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<v Speaker 3>cool working with brands, and they spend a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm just like, guess what, We're never going to

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<v Speaker 3>change our lucy goosey ways. We're just going to be ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing that we're trying to change that

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<v Speaker 3>connotation because I think a lot of brands you think,

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<v Speaker 3>you go and you're like, I'm just like, did you

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<v Speaker 3>see me at the last summit in March?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was late to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Summit because I was on edibles and I told everyone

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<v Speaker 3>there and I'm just like, I am so because I

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<v Speaker 3>heard a COVID thing. But we're it's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>bother us, right, And then that weekend we got locked down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, so what happened? So she stayed in

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<v Speaker 1>the car the car I took.

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<v Speaker 3>You hate the like, no, no baby was she was

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<v Speaker 3>a tiny one.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have. Actually, I now think about it, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have my daughter there. No, No, I had, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But I met ur Tiera and I just remember her

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<v Speaker 1>daughter had her hair was so beautifully braided, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like.

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<v Speaker 3>She does every she's another one because every.

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<v Speaker 1>No and then and your community has connected to so

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<v Speaker 1>many people because then artieras start to work with Nisha

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<v Speaker 1>like your community, like because of the way that you

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<v Speaker 1>run it, it really truly is impactful. And that's really

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<v Speaker 1>what I think you're trying to do is like be

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<v Speaker 1>impactful and be useful and like make like beneficial connections network.

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<v Speaker 3>A member applies, I'm already playing matchmaker and I'm already

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<v Speaker 3>like who would she buy with? And like what would

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<v Speaker 3>they create together? And the moment that happens and you

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<v Speaker 3>manifested it upon application, you're just like, yeah, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a MoMA matchmaker system now.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, you know, we love an astrology or a connection.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally the other day, like she was like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what what the fuck is his rising sign?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know, but you know him.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if I

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<v Speaker 4>know him. I need to know what the internet says?

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<v Speaker 1>What does the connection? What did the stars say?

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<v Speaker 3>What does that start saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Matter?

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<v Speaker 3>You get it and what you're creating is the same

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<v Speaker 3>way you wouldn't just let any person in just because

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<v Speaker 3>you want to. It's quality over quantity, and quality doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean you've got to look a certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fine I feel like you have to look

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<v Speaker 1>at your brand, no matter how large or extensive it is,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you look at your circle, what is it that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How who do you want in your circle?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want everybody in your circle? Are you a

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<v Speaker 1>bitch because you don't want to be friends with everybody? No,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can love people from Afar, you can support

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<v Speaker 1>people from Afar, but not everybody needs to be in circle.

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<v Speaker 3>Point of that, though, there are people that are like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take anything, and but the thing is, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know about you, but I'm very skeptical of that, so

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<v Speaker 3>they'll want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when you create something meaningful, money will.

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<v Speaker 2>Come, yes, and then and then and then it will

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<v Speaker 2>come naturally because you're you're so passionate about what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the number one thing when I read so

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<v Speaker 3>the important thing. I don't know if anyone's building a

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<v Speaker 3>community listening, but the most important thing to add on

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<v Speaker 3>your application is why do you want to join? I

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<v Speaker 3>know it sounds like they're gonna you just want me

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<v Speaker 3>to kiss your ass, but it's really that you want

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<v Speaker 3>to know why they want to joy? What are they

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<v Speaker 3>missing in their life? And it's data for you. And

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<v Speaker 3>what I always hear is like, I haven't found this group,

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<v Speaker 3>or there's a lot of groups, but I see that

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are pro cannabis, or I see that you

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<v Speaker 3>guys are activists, and you're just like, okay, I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes there are women that are to know what I wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>I was literally, what was your answer? I think you

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<v Speaker 1>asked me.

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<v Speaker 3>Application? I mean, a mom crew, it's so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>What should I write? I was like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to know what I wrote. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can find it. Wait, I want you to find it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an email.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like, but I have a gangster research

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<v Speaker 3>and so I could.

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<v Speaker 1>Find it, right. I don't want well.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like on Erica's go too, because I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I didn't care about.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to the party in mam Rag. I just stayed

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<v Speaker 1>in the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you sure you have a plus?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was like, my husband noticed you guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, no, I'm part of this community.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I've never been to any of the events.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably need to go. I was like, we're going.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, are you sure I can come? And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like, are the kids going to be there?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I was wearing like a sea through pink

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<v Speaker 3>hot pink to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were actually was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, let me put let me put on

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<v Speaker 3>a shirt underneath because my nipples are on.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was like women brought their kids to Coachella. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then but they we're the only ones without our

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<v Speaker 1>kids and were and that was a few though, but

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<v Speaker 1>that but that I love too, because like even before

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<v Speaker 1>then though, like I've been going to Coachella since I

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<v Speaker 1>was like maybe seven seventeen, Like Natalie here doing it

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<v Speaker 1>in the car. Yeah, I remember until I went to

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<v Speaker 1>like I think Coldplay was playing. It was like two thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>This is such an ut radio baby boy, oh wait?

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw them too.

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<v Speaker 2>But I.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember before I had kids, seeing someone a child.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget this visual because I had never seen

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<v Speaker 1>it before. I was like this god father and his

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<v Speaker 1>son on his on his back, and the son had

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<v Speaker 1>like the head and the rackchella. And I was on

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<v Speaker 1>drugs for sure, and I was like, what the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>the other kids?

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<v Speaker 3>But isn't that just powerful?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>But but I was even at that point, like I

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<v Speaker 1>was judging for sure, uncause I had no kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably on the dasted or something. But also

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's kind of like I want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring my kids, but then every time I means to go,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's perfectly at the time where like we

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<v Speaker 1>need a fucking break.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year, my husband that was the same the kid bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, you should listen to that episode because that it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually one of our like most epic episodes called Momchella.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeay yeah, and we're and we hit you with it,

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<v Speaker 3>like we go down exactly what we did and you're

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<v Speaker 3>in there. Did you have like a fear and loathing

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<v Speaker 3>in Las Vegas vibe?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, wait, we took We did a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>drugs by accident one day, by accident, on purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>We took them voluntarily.

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<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, it was it was, it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty up. But your events, I mean, but your

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<v Speaker 1>event was a highlight because it was so beautiful, beautifully curated,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw children there at Essentially what our brand

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<v Speaker 1>is about, which is like being able to do both,

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<v Speaker 1>being to go to a music festival but still bring

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<v Speaker 1>your kids and have your partner there or not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and like have fun and that's okay, you can do both.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to fuck to do both.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's important, but you can.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important to sometimes get sucked up. Still, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta bring that kid to the birthday party.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and sometimes I like, you need to train your

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<v Speaker 2>kids to be cool. Okay, you need to train your kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're gonna get to the party, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>let you stay up late, but go find the other

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<v Speaker 2>kids and then go away. Or if there are no kids, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>sleep in different beds if I tell you to go

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a birthday party last weekend, socially distant birthday party,

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<v Speaker 3>masks on and my son saw that there was wine

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<v Speaker 3>in the corner and he's like, Mommy, do you want

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<v Speaker 3>my mom juice? And he went to go get it

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<v Speaker 3>for me and he gave it to me. Wait wait, wait.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to a party let from like a neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know them well, but it was like a

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<v Speaker 2>very small social distancing party whatever. And I was having

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<v Speaker 2>a bad day and I was just waiting to get

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<v Speaker 2>to this party. This is me being judgmental. And there

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<v Speaker 2>were black people. I'm like, they're definitely go a least

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<v Speaker 2>have like wine at the party. For sure, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be like an adult but kid party. So I

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<v Speaker 2>get to the fucking party. There's no fucking line. I'm kissed,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>There, so you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then anyway, I've started to like let go of

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<v Speaker 2>the wine. I fucking drank her pres sonds then and

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<v Speaker 2>I met other cool moms. You know that we had

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<v Speaker 2>meaningful conversations. In my opinion, and even in those conversations,

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<v Speaker 2>I had kind of judged you when they walked in

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<v Speaker 2>about what I thought they were going to be, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're actually all really cool. And I find myself doing

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<v Speaker 2>that and then realizing it, you know, but like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the point of this is, Well, if they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have wine at the party.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think. Also also, it's like that even when

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<v Speaker 1>you are us who are not supposed to be just rental,

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<v Speaker 1>we can be sometimes and be surprised by the women

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<v Speaker 1>that we meet.

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<v Speaker 3>Right and now I want to because you want and

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<v Speaker 3>Sharon shot on my therapist, I'm always like sharing says,

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<v Speaker 3>we reject ourselves almost because we just don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>face the rejection if it happens. So like, there'll be

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<v Speaker 3>times where I walk into like this cookie cutter events.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like where's the wine and already be

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<v Speaker 3>the problem because I just want to like shake it

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<v Speaker 3>up at that moment and let them hate me because

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna hate me eventually. It's like I'm gonna already

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<v Speaker 3>say it. But then I find that one girl's like right,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm just like babe, and it's her party right

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<v Speaker 3>right right, It's like there she is, Let's go to

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<v Speaker 3>the corner and smoke and we'll be right then exactly

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<v Speaker 3>guess why we are running our ship and doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's just like you feel that, and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like I always feel that the moment I walk into

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<v Speaker 3>a room, and that's my own triggers that I need

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<v Speaker 3>to unwrap.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>Tying up the boat of this episode is like that

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<v Speaker 4>you can't judge other moms because.

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<v Speaker 1>You just don't know. You really don't know to talk no,

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<v Speaker 1>and energy is important and connection is important and community

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<v Speaker 1>is important, and that's why conversations are important because you

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<v Speaker 1>meet people when you talk to them and you're like

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<v Speaker 1>ohh and they call back that mushroom layer, whether you

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<v Speaker 1>took them or not, and then they show you like, noah, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>you were wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes it is such a projection of self, and

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<v Speaker 2>my therapist shout out to Isaiah said the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>to me this week.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, you know, I noticed you you don't

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<v Speaker 1>like to be being told what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a dream and he was like, dismantling my dream,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what hypnotherapy does, tells you about your subconscious

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, you sound like because in the

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<v Speaker 2>dream I was like I was in the forest and

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<v Speaker 2>then went to the airport and I was the only

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<v Speaker 2>one who had money. And he was like, you sound

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<v Speaker 2>like you feel like you don't have a lot of support.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he said, sometimes do you think are you

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<v Speaker 2>being your authentic self or do you think you expect

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<v Speaker 2>people to judge you? And that's why you have this

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<v Speaker 2>thought of you don't want to be told what to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you have kind of maybe a rebellious nature.

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<v Speaker 2>And at first, like it seemed accurate, but it also

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<v Speaker 2>was like a lot of words. But now Sharon and

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<v Speaker 2>you are confirming that it's true. Everything everything is and

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<v Speaker 2>a projection how we feel our judgment as getting angry,

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<v Speaker 2>getting up to the punch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we're just like, let me define me before you

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<v Speaker 3>start putting words in my mouth like this is me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm shaking shit up, you know what I mean, and

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<v Speaker 3>like parting words. But like we success comes in so

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<v Speaker 3>many ways. You can be as successful without the trauma,

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<v Speaker 3>you could be as successful with the trauma and your

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<v Speaker 3>party favors. You can be all the things. It's your

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<v Speaker 3>ambition that gets you there. And just believe that you

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<v Speaker 3>can do it and don't let anyone fucking tell you

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<v Speaker 3>that you can do it right. It's absolutely possible. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you need support, there are so many communities. There's

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<v Speaker 3>good moms, bad choices, there's fashion moms, there's creative career club.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many ways you can go. There is help,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't think you can do it alone.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You you become empowered within your community, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>I need to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I needed like, oh there's other women.

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<v Speaker 2>Like literally, even even when me and Eric had first

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<v Speaker 2>started this, I don't think we really realized what we

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<v Speaker 2>had embarked on. We're just like, let's do this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't know it's going to be a whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think maybe the first week we put out

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<v Speaker 2>the episode, like only our friends are going to listen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like hopefully not our moms. And just randomly

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<v Speaker 2>we got a couple of d ms, like from like

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<v Speaker 2>Nellie in Florida, who's like my friend, now you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, and like Rainy in Australia, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like these little universal messages that was like keep going,

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<v Speaker 2>this is important. This is important because there's somewhere somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>who gives a fuck up that you're fucking up, and

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<v Speaker 2>so were they.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the absolutely GMBC till I die, Fashion Mamas,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, hold till tilburd in the dirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming.

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<v Speaker 3>This was so fun. Natalie Alcala n A t A

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<v Speaker 3>l i e A l c A l A. And

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<v Speaker 3>at Fashion Mamas, you know how to say that. And

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<v Speaker 3>at Creative Career Club, mama's m A m A okay, see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Eric gets so mad at me. It is m

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<v Speaker 1>A m A right, yes, m m O M m A.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the so mad? I get so irritated.

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<v Speaker 1>Even like when we're creating merch sometimes it tries to

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<v Speaker 1>sneak in the m O M m A like bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>No one spells it that way. M A m A right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's modern it's modern, it's more okay, I thoughd.

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<v Speaker 1>G M b C.

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't hear everything here. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>you think you do, but you're really hear all the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a lot of personal ship over there. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't hate.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I always do this. He gets so mad.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to commit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna commit. I'm gonna ask Natalie, will you do

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<v Speaker 3>take off my shirt?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're me and like I always wantsh sh.

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<v Speaker 3>My boes when nobody asked.

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<v Speaker 1>We also do Friends Good Friends after Dark.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I'll do anything. Okay, So even if

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<v Speaker 3>it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>A zoom, like maybe you and your husband can come

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<v Speaker 2>on since he has this iconic game and this great slur.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I always want.

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<v Speaker 2>To talk more and so we also include more of talking,

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<v Speaker 2>more intimate personal talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Blood will come on and speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a segment on on Patreon called Good Moms

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<v Speaker 1>after Dark where we interview our friends, like our homies,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just talk and we just get a little more.

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<v Speaker 1>Just dig in there, we get we're getting more deep.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't let to be honest, we just get drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk.

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<v Speaker 3>You believe it.

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<v Speaker 4>You can serch us shock anyway, guys, We will see

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<v Speaker 4>you next week.

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<v Speaker 6>So I did Playboy and then I become a mom

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<v Speaker 6>and do Playboy. Where's the difference?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>And you know he didn't know how to answer the question.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's also yeah, asking them like what

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<v Speaker 1>would make you say this or what makes you feel

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<v Speaker 1>a certain way? It has a lot to do with

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<v Speaker 1>men in their own insecurities.

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<v Speaker 6>Men's insecurities. But I think a lot of the things

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<v Speaker 6>that we don't realize is men's ideas of the women

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<v Speaker 6>that they're with. Decidally, where we've all got to unlearn

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<v Speaker 6>that that's what you guys do, right. It's like, what

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<v Speaker 6>is a mom supposed to do? Not talk about sucking

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<v Speaker 6>dick anymore because I have breast milk still in there,

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<v Speaker 6>like