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Speaker 1: What's up, you guys. This week we have on Natalie Alcala,

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Speaker 1: the founder of Fashion Mamas, the first and leading members

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Speaker 1: only community for diverse mothers in creative and dynamic industries.

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Speaker 2: On this week's episode, you can expect to hear her

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Speaker 2: talk about how she created her international platform for like

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Speaker 2: minded mamas around the world.

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Speaker 1: How partying and being a mom aren't mutually exclusive, and

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Speaker 1: that your past doesn't define you.

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Speaker 2: Couples therapy, self sabotage in new relationships.

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Speaker 1: Facing your inner child, and sding. Yeah, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to stick around because we didn't know what the fuck

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Speaker 1: that was either. And also, you guys, we just announced

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Speaker 1: that we rescheduled our LA live show. It's no longer

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Speaker 1: in LA. It's for everybody. Yep, it's a virtual live show,

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Speaker 1: you guys. And this day your normal zoom call no no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no, this is a moother fucking move v Okay.

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Speaker 1: This show is about to be so fire. So if

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Speaker 1: you've been wanting to come to our live show but

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Speaker 1: you don't didn't live in LA, you didn't live in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: this is the time to buy your tickets. We are

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Speaker 1: going to be doing the show on February thirteenth, so

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Speaker 1: make sure you click the link in the details of

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Speaker 1: this episode and get those tickets.

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Speaker 2: Also, don't forget to click the link in the description

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Speaker 2: for our full moon ceremony on January twenty eighth. That's right,

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Speaker 2: join us in a virtual full moon ceremony that comes

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Speaker 2: with a VIP box that's offered exclusively on Post twenty

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Speaker 2: one shop dot com. Get your manifestation on y'all.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica, I'm Nila,

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Speaker 1: and it's Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Happy hump Day, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Happy hump Day. So, as you guys know, we are

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Speaker 1: now starting off our episodes pulling a card out out

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Speaker 1: of our tarot deck. So let's just get into it

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Speaker 1: because it is a new moon baby in Capricorn and

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to see what's it. Let's see that sound professional? Okay?

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Speaker 1: We have the three of wands, three of wands, and

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Speaker 1: this looks like a car. So the guy has his

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Speaker 1: wands and he's his back is facing me and he's

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Speaker 1: looking out into the ocean. It looks like he's looking

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Speaker 1: at some ships sailing away or something. So what does

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Speaker 1: it mean? Tell me what it means?

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Speaker 2: Me la okay, So the upright three of wands is okay. So.

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Speaker 2: While the two of lands speaks to planning for the

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Speaker 2: future from a place of safety and comfort, the three

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Speaker 2: of wands shows that your plans are now well underway

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Speaker 2: and you are considering even more opportunities to expand your

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Speaker 2: current strategy and maximize your ultimate potential. Everything is progressing

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Speaker 2: steadily as expected, thanks to your solid preparation and ongoing drive. Bitch,

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Speaker 2: you heard that ongoing, dry.

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Speaker 1: Ongoing drive than preparing, this.

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Speaker 2: Is for us, This is for all of us. The

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Speaker 2: three of wands signals the many chances available to you

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Speaker 2: to broaden your horizons through study, travel, business, enterprise, and learning.

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Speaker 2: You're becoming more aware of the opportunities that exist for

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Speaker 2: To take advantage of this potential, you must stay committed

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Speaker 2: to your path and be prepared to stretch beyond your

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Speaker 2: comfort zone, knowing your best hopes lie outside of your

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Speaker 2: current environment. It is time to think big, big, big

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Speaker 2: capital ig Consider what you can, Consider what you can

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Speaker 2: to open doors to more development and self exploration. Now

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Speaker 2: you know these us two bitches love some self exploration. Okay,

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Speaker 2: This card encourages you to dream bigger than your limitations,

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Speaker 2: accept your vision, and be confident you will achieve it.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, really amazing, Wow, amazing. It sounds like a butterfly

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Speaker 1: coming out of the cocoon, like you've done, You've done

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Speaker 1: the work, You've done your due diligence, and now it's

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Speaker 1: time to show all the fruits of your labor, like

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Speaker 1: and honestly, like it's so crazy. We pulled this card

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Speaker 1: the new moon is in Capricorn today and tomorrow, and

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Speaker 1: I was reading about you know what this moon brings,

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Speaker 1: and it's themes of death and rebirth and it's really

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Speaker 1: a moon about transformation, and it kind of feels like

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Speaker 1: that's what this card is talking about, Like you have

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Speaker 1: and she was basically saying that new moons are usually

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Speaker 1: new moon right now. She highly suggests doing rituals of

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Speaker 1: protection to release the things that are not serving you.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like that's like, this is the perfect

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Speaker 1: instead of doing a manifestation ritual tonight or manifesting tonight,

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Speaker 1: think about all the things that you want to release,

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Speaker 1: think about the things you need protection for, and then

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Speaker 1: bring all those things with you on the twenty eighth,

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Speaker 1: and let's really get that manifestation slowgoing because we have

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Speaker 1: such an amazing group of people coming in. I'm so

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Speaker 2: We're about to really stir the pie and cultivate, like

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Speaker 2: combine all of our witchy divine energy at this full

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Speaker 2: moon ceremony led by a shaman, our favorite shaman, Jake,

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Speaker 2: Shaman Sham and Jake.

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Speaker 1: And he's also fine as hell excited, so I know

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Speaker 2: A yeah, if any if come for anything, come to

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Speaker 2: much fun, and I'm so excited for everybody to just

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Speaker 1: We have Melanie Fiona, our Homegirl friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: who is honestly my life coach. This girl, this woman

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Speaker 1: all the way together. Okay, Felicia Latour, Like, we have

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Speaker 1: been on this on this wave, kudos to you. If

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Speaker 1: all about, this is the perfect time to do that.

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Speaker 1: We have this amazing box that you're gonna get with

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Speaker 1: all the items that you need for the event, but

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Speaker 1: even more so the items you need just moving forward

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: So join us and be sure to click the link

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Speaker 2: in the details of this episode to get this private

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Speaker 2: link to our virtual Full Moon ceremony. Okay, so, before

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Speaker 2: we go, an affirmation for protection and release. Is I

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Speaker 2: happily let go of what's holding me back in life.

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Speaker 2: I welcome transformation.

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Speaker 1: I happily let go of what's holding me back in life.

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Speaker 1: I welcome transformation. On that note, let's get into this

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Speaker 1: episode with Natalie Alkala of Fashion Mama Joy or can.

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Speaker 3: That's a can wine? Baby, what is it called?

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Speaker 2: Love love white white wine, California and.

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Speaker 4: Cheers, cheers, cheers.

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Speaker 2: And we're joined by lovely Fashion Mama's founder Natalie Alcala.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is a long time coming. I'm really

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Speaker 1: happy to have you here. Natalie. Natalie is, like Jamila said,

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Speaker 1: the founder of Fashion Mamas, which is this amazing community

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Speaker 1: that I found through my dear friend Nisha who's part

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Speaker 1: of Fashion Mama's. And but fashion Mamas is all over

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Speaker 1: the United States. You guys have got all over the world,

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Speaker 1: all over the world, Australia, baby, Okay, we have some

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Speaker 1: we have some listeners in Australia.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know if that's.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for coming. You're also a mama obviously too.

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Speaker 3: I'm a stan of this podcast. Thank you for having me,

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Speaker 3: and of course.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about your babies. How old are they?

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Speaker 3: I have a six year old boy named Diego and

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Speaker 3: a two year old girl named Rio.

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Speaker 1: You're busy, Yeah, I'm so busy.

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Speaker 3: They just keep me busy, like twenty for seven and

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Speaker 3: even though I work all day, it's just they're always

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Speaker 3: its own job. But we're somehow, some way supposed to

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Speaker 3: I mean, thank God for therapy and weed and drinks,

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Speaker 3: all the party favors I can get in. Honestly, Honestly,

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Speaker 3: I feel you can go hard in both.

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Speaker 1: been listening, then you know me, Mila are You know?

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Speaker 1: We like mushrooms, and through in COVID, mushrooms have kind

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Speaker 1: I've been I've been dealing with anxiety on and off

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be a pill pop in XANIX

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Speaker 1: don't have you ever tried microdosing? And I've taken mushrooms,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna be using mushrooms this weekend just for

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Speaker 3: They used to call me pill queen. In college, so

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Speaker 1: Snort it right to the head.

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Speaker 3: This is a fellow woman from the valley.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the valley where there's nothing to do but

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Speaker 3: buck around. I saw her own the valley, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: pill queen. I was proud of it. Hoover was my

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Speaker 3: next six name. You can't guess why, And it's just

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Speaker 3: like snort all the things I can absolutely yeah, wait,

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Speaker 3: My specialty was definitely snorting my entire name.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm a long ass name.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, no one gave me the grace of

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Speaker 3: And you know it's taken me now in therapy to

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Speaker 3: It's enough to go insane. Yeah, we can judge or

435
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 3: we can feel good right now. So right now, I'm

436
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 3: gonna do that. I'm gonna be political. I'm gonna make

437
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 3: the smart choices and take a stand and be an activist.

438
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: But I'm also gonna get fucked up and numb for

439
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: a me. I'll see my kids in an.

440
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Speaker 1: Hour, right amen.

441
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: Amen, A lot going on.

442
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be just and also I'm gonna get sucked up.

443
00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: I've got to do about home and take we got

444
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: to at this point.

445
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: No, I agree. I mean I think that we feel

446
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: like you have to lose a part of yourself, you know,

447
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: And like Jamila was saying, like there's this big transition

448
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: like from being you know, the girl used to be

449
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: having this baby, and then it's like, Okay, I'm doing

450
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: this thing, and then when I have the baby, it's

451
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: back to like the old thing again, right, And it

452
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 1: was like, no, it's not, and like what does that

453
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: look like? It's just it's confusing and it takes time.

454
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: And for those listening that just have like maybe you

455
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: have two year olds, like you know, we have six

456
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: year olds, and I know there's pir of people that

457
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: listen that have twenty year olds, you know. Like I remember,

458
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: if I knew what I knew now and I'm only

459
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: five years in, like I would have been so much

460
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: more forgiving on myself.

461
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 4: When I first had Iri, I was so hard on myself.

462
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: I felt like I was supposed to be this certain

463
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: way and like I didn't know how I was gonna

464
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: I felt like my dreams, my goals, like I already

465
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: was kind of like wasn't sure what I wanted to do,

466
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: and then.

467
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 4: Motherhood made me even more insecure in the beginning.

468
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: The empowerment came obviously later, and I like, I absolutely

469
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: think like most a lot of mothers know that feeling

470
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: like that feeling of that motherhood really has empowered you

471
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: and made you feel more confident in so many ways.

472
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 4: But for me, at first, I didn't. I was like,

473
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 4: oh my god, what am I doing.

474
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm not successful at anything, Like I've been acting my

475
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: whole life, and I feel like I haven't had my

476
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: like big break or something, and like my mom has

477
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: a successful brand, but I don't know if I want

478
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: to follow my mom's footsteps. My father was a pro athlete.

479
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: I have all these shoes to fill. What the fuck

480
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: am I going to do? What am I doing? Am

481
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: I good at anything? Like I don't know. I have

482
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: a baby daddy who's like, you know, he's getting a

483
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: lot of attention, and like maybe I should just support

484
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: him because he's really good at it, you know. And

485
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: like I started to lose myself and not really know

486
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: who I was and who I am, and like it's

487
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: just like you get to that point and like we

488
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: are we're a tribute to that like that you can

489
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: do that, you find that and like for you, like

490
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I look at the community that

491
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: you've built and like I'm in all of you. I

492
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: really am, because you do have two children and you

493
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: have built an amazing community. You have events like real event,

494
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: nice events. Guys. Her events are fucking she there, she

495
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: is fucking the k is fucking me. And I think

496
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: we even talked about your event we went to. We

497
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: did our Coachella episode two years ago or last year.

498
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: It was part of our mom Cella.

499
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: It was Yeah, when first we went to this, like

500
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: she it was like the most classy mom event you

501
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 2: can You can imagine you guys.

502
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: Rolled up cheek as fucked too, like who's that girl?

503
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Like we had looks okay, we had our outfits together

504
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: and little.

505
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: Do you know, we like planned to stalk.

506
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: You that day. We had like a game talk a

507
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 2: talk in the car like she's okay, so this is

508
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: what she looks like, her name is, Okay, this is

509
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: what we're doing.

510
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: Because we had just started our our our community, like

511
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: starting to build our we were looking at yours like wow,

512
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: how fucking amazing, how.

513
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: Amazing, and like we were trying.

514
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: We're thinking. We have done a couple of events at

515
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: that point, I'm like, how does she do this?

516
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: Out of town and so many people are there, like

517
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: people gave her it was beautiful.

518
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: She didn't buy that.

519
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 4: I was like, we didn't.

520
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: We didn't need friends with her. We didn't know our secret.

521
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: The way I'm doing talking the whole time, it's like

522
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 3: you're wedding every time. You guys know that at this

523
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: point you don't know. We were like, we're gonna manifest

524
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: the right. So we go in there.

525
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 2: We had like a game plan and we go in

526
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: the kitchen to eat and we're talking and then would

527
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: just look up and she's like hi.

528
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, look, look she's wed. To find

529
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: her Yeah, with her, I think your breastfeeding, walked up.

530
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: To hang and then we had and then we were

531
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: all talking and I was like, wow, we just like

532
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: totally just laid out the plan and she just walked

533
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: right to us.

534
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: In the middle of the conversation, one of the chicks

535
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: comes up and she's like that.

536
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: At is the is the rice is the rice and

537
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: salad glitten free and vegan. And you're like you're like

538
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: to stop me, like pose like yeah, of course, and

539
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: then you keep going and then you go it's not

540
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: the most fucking l a shit ever.

541
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're all just laughing, la la, But it

542
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: was perfect.

543
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: It was just manifested and our plan was to stalk

544
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 3: you and look, here you are.

545
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: Here you are.

546
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: We know we've manifested you into our seat.

547
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: Literal love is beyond reciprocated. It's just one of those

548
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: things like at events, like you know, the moment you

549
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: walk in, I'm like, let's go away for like two

550
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: hours in gab But it's just you can one.

551
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: Hundred you can't. There's no way you can connect with

552
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: every single person at all period. It's just no way.

553
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: And my only goal with fash moment is to reward

554
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: women that are just like, look, I'm going to try

555
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: to do my career, still have my identity still and

556
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: be a mom still. And look, sometimes mom will be

557
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: at the top and his career is going to be

558
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: at the top, but I have a baby in my hip, Like,

559
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna do both. It's not one of those things

560
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 3: where we're singular at all. I don't work that way.

561
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: I don't think that's humanity. It's not I think that

562
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 3: we wake up sometimes and we're just like my only

563
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: goal to day is I want to look cute today.

564
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: I want to take a good ig that makes me

565
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: feel good. You're still a good mom, You're still I know.

566
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: I believe in you, that you're you know, you're feeding

567
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: your children and you're making sure that they're set up

568
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: on their zoom like I believe that you can be

569
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: as many of the things as you want and guess what,

570
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: they're not going to be one hundred percent. I can't

571
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 3: tell you that I do anything one hundred percent as

572
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 3: much as the Sikh event you said. I can tell

573
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: you the little corners we cut, and I can tell

574
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: you the the fuck ups that happened and my fourth

575
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: trimester when you guys saw me and I see you

576
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: guys coming and I'm like, they're so hot, like a

577
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: gross flood. I got lots of skin and my baby

578
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: and like boobs are filled. It's just that we're all

579
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: judging ourselves all the fucking time, and only in thirty

580
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: six years of my life and my step free right

581
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: now where I'm like, I've had the maximum amount of

582
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: kids I'm gonna have. Bless your heart if you have more.

583
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: And I'm just like I'm me, this is it, and

584
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna ride and be alive right.

585
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: Right now, right, but in a beautiful place to be too.

586
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: I mean, like for me, like I don't know if

587
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm done having kids, Like you know, I'm not married,

588
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm in a relationship now, I'm with someone who wants

589
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: to have children. And I go back and forth, mostly

590
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: not bad girls, mostly not back to feeling like I

591
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: want them. But then there is this part of me

592
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: that's like, oh God, like maybe I do, like maybe

593
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: I can have one more, but like to know, like

594
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm done now what you know, Like that's right. I

595
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: feel like that also offers like the kind of like

596
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: there's a beautiful freedom, right, but it's.

597
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 3: A boundary thing, and it's a thing I probably need

598
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: it as having an addictive personality, like you're probably like

599
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: a much more sane and sound person for it. But

600
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: I create like a I'm done with this. I'll do

601
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: time blocking in my day. That's how I do it all,

602
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: even though I don't do it all like perfect, but

603
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: I do it all because I'm like, oh it's twelve pm,

604
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: turn off my like close my laptop and I'm.

605
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: Gonna listen to Luis Miguel.

606
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: There's some Spanish and I'm just gonna dance around my

607
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: clubhouse because it's like my workout and my stressor my

608
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: stress reliever. And I just create these boundaries for myself

609
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: no matter what, even if I'm not done with a thing,

610
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: because my brain works that way.

611
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: So I need to be better. Honestly, I know better

612
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: at stopping things even if I didn't finish them, because

613
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: I will keep going and going and going. But the

614
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: end I know I am and love, I'll keep going

615
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: and going going and then still won't finish. And it's

616
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: like I probably could have finished shut down momentum re energizing.

617
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: I know, Oh my god, if my man's listening to this,

618
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: Oh but all.

619
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: The sloppy, I'm slappy all day. But that's my one

620
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: little thing that I do.

621
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: But I'm just like a tip though, Like so that's

622
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: a good one because I feel like if you like

623
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: for me, like I need to hear that, because I

624
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of people out there that

625
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: don't know how to just take it.

626
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: And then I beat myself up. It's like no, it's

627
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: just like this is this is this is just the boundary.

628
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: That's the rule. We're gonna carry on the next day,

629
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you for saying that.

630
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: No, I I just feel like I create these little

631
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: the games we play with ourselves, right, the games we create.

632
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: I just create these.

633
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: Little like games and boundaries and guidelines to exist. And

634
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: I am that type of person that needs to do

635
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: that because leave me alone in a quiet room, all

636
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: alone with no one around, with no substances, and I've

637
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: got to face things that I've been in the past.

638
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: And I know I'm so dramatic at times, but I

639
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: just really do feel that way. I'm just kind of like,

640
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: why am I like this? Why? Why did I? Like

641
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: my mother never like had one man in her life,

642
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: but the men that she did choose to have in

643
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: her life for a long time were abusive men or

644
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: were like men that were just toxic. And those were

645
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: and it's I was raised by a single mother. Single

646
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: women are like gods to me. It's more about the

647
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: men that they brought into their life that are toxic,

648
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: that stayed in my mind. That's stuff around exactly. So,

649
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: and so what I did and I turned that ond.

650
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: This wasn't even part of like what we're talking about.

651
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: But I'm just going off.

652
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: I feel so sick.

653
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: But it's like like the toxic men that we are

654
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: encountering with our parents or anyone in our childhood. We

655
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: were just like men are bad, right, So I just

656
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: like was like, I'm just.

657
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: Gonna fuck with men.

658
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: Oh my fucking life. I'm gonna find a high guy

659
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 3: we can follow in with me, fuck him, and then

660
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: fuck all his friends.

661
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: That's what you do.

662
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: And you're just like, I have power over you, and

663
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: no matter what, even though they love me, if they're

664
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: too nice, I'm just like, I'm still going to fuck

665
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: you up.

666
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm still gonna go.

667
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: And you're almost like justifying and you're seeking justice for

668
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: the bad.

669
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: Men that hurt your mom. Seeking justice. Wow, And that's

670
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: my excuse, Like it's not okay. And how did your husband,

671
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: sorry boy, how did your husband come in here? I mean,

672
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: was or did the healing happen before that or was

673
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: it an ongoing thing?

674
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: It was literally right in the middle of it. So

675
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: my husband came in right in the middle of my

676
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: toxic relationship that I was.

677
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: Just cheating on him with all his friends.

678
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: And I met my husband at a bar and he

679
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: came in with a girl and I sat on his lap,

680
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: and I was like you're cute and that's not okay.

681
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: And you know I'm twenty one years old, no twenty

682
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: years old.

683
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: He through my twenty first birthday and I just when

684
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: I was lap, and you know, not okay for him

685
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: that he accepted me, received me on his lap. But

686
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: we just had our moment. And look, the reason why

687
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: I was still with my ex is he was younger

688
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: than me. You know, we're babies at that age, and

689
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: it's like we are just trying to stick it to

690
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: them all the time. So cheating was my abuse. He

691
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: was abusive towards me. So I was like, I'm going

692
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: to break your heart by telling you, like other men

693
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: make me feel good, and for men, that's almost.

694
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: Exactly one. Tell him other men are better than the

695
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: way to the movies, even more money money.

696
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: And.

697
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: They'll crumble and melt. And this man lot wholesome, the

698
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: most wholesome person. And for me being like my raggedy

699
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: valley girl that just lives spicy, I was just like

700
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: he's just so sweet, and I was like, how can

701
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: I corrupt him? But he sticks older than me and

702
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: he would pick me up. So we just started hanging

703
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 3: out and then my space this is all our communications

704
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: channel was my face. I would shout out on my

705
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: Space me and my girl, we need to ride to Coachella.

706
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: And he's like, I'm the guy you said on the lap,

707
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: like do you want to ride to Cotta? And I

708
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: was like okay, and I jump in the car with him.

709
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: This is not safe in this day in my Space,

710
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: but you know what, it was kind of it's okay,

711
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: it's not It's not safe for them at these strangers.

712
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: I've gotten into cars by that I probably should have

713
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: been kidnapped twenty seven, right, it's.

714
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Safe for them than it is now. I feel like

715
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: kids were more on the Internet than versus now creepy

716
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: old men can be on the Internet because they figured

717
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: it out. Like I was mostly talking to if I

718
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: was talking to an older guy and maybe he was

719
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: like twenty one and I was sixteen. You know, yeah, yeah,

720
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: you know there were creepers for sure. I don't want

721
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: to back, but you mostly just chat with.

722
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: Your friends on AOL that you know exactly.

723
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: But my face was that place.

724
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I I met my boyfriend, the Michael Jackson person.

725
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: I met him on my Space. As I remember recently,

726
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: I was driving the other day and I was thinking.

727
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I god. I had

728
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: a boyfriend from my space and there was an it

729
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: was another guy, like a whole last boyfriend I had

730
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: that I forgot I did too all right because I

731
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: was driving towards Long Beach and I was like, I

732
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: had a boyfriend in Longrida's family on my Space Facebook.

733
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: Suddenly you could do yeah, you could do anything exactly.

734
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: So this is the best flex that maybe it's a

735
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: young injury listening to guys.

736
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: What he did is we.

737
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 3: Drove and he was like, let me tell you about

738
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: all the guys in my scene that are talking about you.

739
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: They all want to fuck you.

740
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: So at Coachella, like that guy wants to give you

741
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: a hotel room or wants to give you a drink

742
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: or whatever, he wants to fuck you. So if you

743
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: want to hang out with me, like, I will make

744
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: sure that doesn't happen to you this trip. And I

745
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 3: was like, I don't want the town to thank you

746
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 3: very much.

747
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

748
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: And so he hung out with me and he was

749
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: literally truly kind the whole weekend, like the best like game,

750
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: that's the best game that me and my other we

751
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 3: are younger than him, and he would bring us beer.

752
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 3: We would like he did eat.

753
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: He held my girlfriend's hand, my best friend's hand, and

754
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't even.

755
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: A thing because you're not that age.

756
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: We're all just like flow.

757
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: And the night that night, my mom she was like,

758
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: she called me and she said, Natalie, I don't know

759
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: if you're in you're still at Coachella, but I have

760
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 3: a time share. I let my my friend let me

761
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: use your time share so I have a place to

762
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: stay at night tonight. You guys don't want to sleep in.

763
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: The car, and I did.

764
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: And this guy was so wholesome. I was like, do

765
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: you want to stay at my mom's house. He's like, yeah,

766
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: of course. And he had a separate room and he

767
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: slept ir respectfully. And when we had Mexican food, and

768
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: my mom was like, you're gonna marry this guy? Like ew,

769
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: he's just so like corny and it all happens. But

770
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: I was just like and he told me in like

771
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: in retrospect. I was like, why were you so good?

772
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: He's like, of course I wanted to fuck, you know,

773
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 3: But he waited.

774
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: Like two months.

775
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: The long game. He let me get crazy. Two thousand

776
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: and four. We met two thousand and six. I was like,

777
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: this is too good. We're gonna break up.

778
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: For a whole year? Are you mean hold on?

779
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: Broke up for a year? And I said if if

780
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: in three hundred and sixty five days, I still miss you,

781
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: then it's good. And he was like, three hundred and

782
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: sixty five days, I'm like hi, And then he was

783
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 3: And I did all the things la night life like

784
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: I did all of it to live it out with twenty.

785
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

786
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sassy. And he still deals with me, and

787
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: he always still tells me till this day, are you

788
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: trying to sabotage things right now?

789
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: Day? I've ever done couple therapy. I mean you've talked

790
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: about therapy, so I do therapy alone.

791
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 3: We've done couple therapy, but they always end up loving

792
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: him because he's the voice of reason. And I was

793
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: just like, I don't feel seen right now. I don't

794
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: like you. It's a therapy, Okay.

795
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: Then I had a couple of therapies. I feel we

796
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: are I think I might.

797
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: I know you're not.

798
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: I know you have the same sign, but you're my sister. Yeah,

799
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: And so I just I told him I need to

800
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 3: work out some things. I said, honestly, you're the picture

801
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: of perfect when it comes to your life and everything

802
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 3: you've been through. He said, his biggest issues he's had

803
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 3: is like fitting in. And he came here from Moscow

804
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: when he was nine and he didn't speak English. So

805
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: his biggest issues were he was a good boy and

806
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: fitting into a bad world.

807
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: And I can't relate to that. I'm like, that's not

808
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: a hard job. Oh what is he a cancer?

809
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: He's a real woman. And it's just it's been so

810
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: fun that I always say tame the world base It's

811
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 3: not that deep. But it's just that I really feel

812
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: like he made me just like, I've been abused enough

813
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 3: and abused enough. How about this new life of like

814
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 3: just like, and we're not wholesome. We partied our lives

815
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: away when we were together. We did all of the things.

816
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: And but you know what, he's the first one. If

817
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: I'm on the verge of I've done enough of the thing,

818
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: he'll drive us home and he'll be like, I sobered

819
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: up because I saw you in pain, So I'm gonna

820
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: drive us. He's a responsible one, just you call a partner.

821
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: He knows how to read, and he took care of

822
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: you the first night.

823
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he waited for me. His patience is beyond

824
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: he was. He I always live like he waited for

825
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: me to grow up because you know that year I

826
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: just needed leaving a positive relationship because I'm like, it's

827
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: too good, goodbye. He could have been like fuck you, right,

828
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: but he waited five Okay, he still has a work

829
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: cut out for him. I'm not like turned.

830
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: But the fact that you've been together all this time

831
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: and that he can still look at you in your

832
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: face and say you're sabotaging shit, yeah, and like just

833
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: call you out and keep it moving, like look what

834
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 2: you doing, bitch together.

835
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm seeing you right now. I'll say, throw

836
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: out the trash.

837
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: And then he doesn't. I get home, like why didn't

838
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: you throw it out? Like I need you to do it.

839
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: Why don't you respect me? And he's like it's not

840
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: that deep, Like I didn't get to it today.

841
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: I will get to it tomorrow. Don't try to like sabotage, yeah,

842
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: to be wrong here, Like I like, you just don't listen.

843
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: You just don't want to listen to it. You heard

844
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: me say it and you didn't have her.

845
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 3: It's an inner child thing that us at our age,

846
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: like women of a Particular Age. We are trying to

847
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 3: face her inner child. Oh oh my god, I don't

848
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: be calling.

849
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: Me out like that.

850
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: Wait, is there a book called Women of a Particular Age?

851
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Because not there needs to because I feel like that's

852
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: a whole ass book, because I feel like there's a

853
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: particular age and there's different milestones. I think a little bit.

854
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 3: There's like brackets, so there's like, no, you guys are babies. Honestly,

855
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: there's like twenty four to thirty four. You're in a

856
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: bracket thirty four to like forty three or something.

857
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 4: Only I'm not afraid of age. I'm afraid of aging.

858
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm fine with the number. I'm fine with the numbers.

859
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: Give me all the numbers, bitch, I want the wisdom.

860
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: Just gave me the same face. While we're here, I'm

861
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: started to feeling like she's like, you make up. I'm like, yes,

862
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: I think I think I was sleeping upside down, lack

863
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: of skin carouteene or using the wrong product, and I

864
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: us they're using too many, too many things.

865
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: Times there's like a kindly general effect or.

866
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: Something just you know, they're like they're filling their face

867
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 4: and then they end up looking older.

868
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, look in their mode. I can't do a

869
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: high school right now.

870
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: It's trippy. I'm intimidated now. Honestly, I don't want to

871
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: be in high school at all.

872
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: I'm scared of high school and babies.

873
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: I'm so glad.

874
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: All I had was like friends. As soon as I

875
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: go to college, I got one. But I had my Space.

876
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: Oh god, my co contact, Instagram and TikTok and all

877
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: these goddamn dance videos.

878
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: I can't very impressed by that this generation. But I'm

879
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 3: also like scared for them. I'm sore. Are they gonna

880
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: do when they're our age? They are so yeah, and

881
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: they know they're gonna they're gonna look they're.

882
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: So smart, but they have no idea what dumb pieces?

883
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: They have no idea what peace at twelve thirteen years old.

884
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: There's some that do. There's some that there said peace

885
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: like ryot, like disconnection overload. Even me, like I'm we're

886
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: on the edge of that. And I will say, like

887
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred and four hundred percent, four hundred percent

888
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: addicted to my phone, and like it is a problem.

889
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: What's your daily hours? I don't even want to I don't.

890
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: Look at your hours.

891
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: No, I look at what they are, and I'm just like,

892
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't like, you know what it is. It's not

893
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: even that I'm addicted to my phone. I'm a dick

894
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: looking now, I'm addicted to my phone. I'diction to my

895
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: phone because work is on my phone. But then also

896
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: like leisure is on my phone, so they're both there,

897
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: just there, and so it's easy for me to get there,

898
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: start working, take a break on my phone, go back

899
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: to work on my phone, then take another break looking

900
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: at some shit on my phone.

901
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 3: Are the men you've ever been with on Instagram?

902
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: On phone?

903
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: Are they on social media platforms?

904
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? And it's so funny. My my my boyfriend now

905
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: is on Instagram, but he doesn't really use his phone

906
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot, so he gets really irritated with me. They

907
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: don't understand it, Yeah, but no, and I get it,

908
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: Like I understand his frustration, but also like I'll be like,

909
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm working and then I'm like and then I'm not

910
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: working for like maybe forty five minutes, and he's like,

911
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: you're still on your phone. I'm like, I'm not. I'm

912
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: just confused.

913
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: He doesn't use Instagram. My husband doesn't use Instagram.

914
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: At all.

915
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: He just uses Facebook to check on like family or

916
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: like share political views or something. But Instagram he does,

917
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: and he's like, I don't like I could feel as

918
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: toxic there, and I'm just like, I literally need it

919
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: for my brand, right you have to?

920
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

921
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: So it's just like, I just wonder if men it's

922
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: a different it sorts a different purpose. I don't even

923
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: know if I want to be with a guy that's

924
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 3: like hardcore into branding on ig.

925
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: No, there's one of us, yeah, the only one of us. Yeah,

926
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: adventure Bait wasn't an Instagram guy. And I was happy

927
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: about that.

928
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: You like that.

929
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need any men taking selfies. I don't

930
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: need you to be posting a lot of selfies of yourself.

931
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: I'm good.

932
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 3: I think Instagram is taking a dark turn though. I

933
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: think the way people are sharing, like their riches abundance,

934
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: it's just it's toxic for people because this could be enough.

935
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: Hanging out with your people could be enough. But if

936
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: you it is enough. But if you see that someone

937
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: else has only designer labels or only this that, or

938
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: their house is polished yet they have a child, or

939
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: they breastfed till their kid was one hundred like eighteen

940
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: or whatever, you know, four years old. It's just they're

941
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: just so much judgment and so much one upping.

942
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: That it just it's so toxic.

943
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 3: And that's why it's like sorority culture. I could never

944
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 3: join that in college.

945
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: I was just like I need to shake shit up.

946
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: That's why we're scaling fashion momas because I'm like, I

947
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: don't want people in the group or on our fait

948
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 3: fashion Mama's account that are just like always one.

949
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: Uping each other. We have to show the mess too,

950
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: because I'm like so messy. Well you know what, I

951
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: don't have to.

952
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: I commend you for like showing the mess too, because

953
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: you know, like, of course me and Eric can do

954
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: it because we've almost conditioned ourselves to get more.

955
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: Comfortable and odd for you guys, honestly and even for

956
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: us it.

957
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 2: Gets hard, but like for you to come on here,

958
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: be honest, keep it real and like you guys when

959
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: we say she was like the chakest cheakest brain endeavor, yeah,

960
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: like I'm I'm not not that I'm surprised. I you know,

961
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 2: I know you're cool, but I'm like, this is such

962
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 2: a good message for like just for the mom community period,

963
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: because it appears like so.

964
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: Much and there's just there's so much beneath the surface,

965
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: you know. So I appreciate you.

966
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: Thank you.

967
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: Speaking of your brand, did you start it? I mean

968
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: you started it in hop.

969
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen, and so you were no resources like this.

970
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: Girl, right? And how old were how old was your child?

971
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: But so why mestitis?

972
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: Back to back?

973
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: I had rebounds and mistitas with Diego.

974
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: Wait, what is mistitis? Oh?

975
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: Thank god, you don't know what that is.

976
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's a it's a oh my god, infection in

977
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: your breast.

978
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: Oh when you're trying to breastfeed, and blood and bacteria sorry,

979
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: is going into your work back into your body and

980
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: it feels like glass inside your boobs.

981
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: Oh no.

982
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: And I had that three times with Diego, and then

983
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: by fourth month he was like smooth sailing. But I

984
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: kept going because I'm just such a massive kiss I guess,

985
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: or like addicted, and so I was just like I

986
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: gotta see if I could do it, and thank god,

987
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: I was able to overcome it. But women that want

988
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: to stop. When that first hurt, my mom told me

989
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: you hurt a little, and I started formula feeding you.

990
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: I came out fine, it's all good.

991
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: I am your mom. No what I'm saying. I mean

992
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: I had rest fund for four months maybe yeah, four months,

993
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: and it just became too hard for me. And then

994
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: they were like you can, you can give her the

995
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: bottles like I can boom. But I do wish that,

996
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: like I had more people that would have would have

997
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: empowered me to keep going.

998
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: I had no one.

999
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: Everyone was like, yeah, just do that.

1000
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1001
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: Her dad was like sounds like he's right. My mom's like.

1002
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, it's so isolating.

1003
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And so when I created Fashion Moms, I was

1004
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 3: just the only reason I was doing it was because

1005
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: I care about my job so much. Like I know,

1006
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 3: I just had a baby, but I can't write to

1007
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 3: wait to write that story or go back to Paris

1008
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 3: Fashion Week or whatever. And I was like, I wonder

1009
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: if there's other moms that are having this dilemma of

1010
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 3: also caring a lot about their career and their kid

1011
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: even though their kid was just born. Because I've met

1012
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 3: so many mothers that are like, this is my life's purpose.

1013
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 3: Thank God for all of those women.

1014
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: But that wasn't in me.

1015
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't have postpartum depression I

1016
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: have more of just like, damn, I'm still me inside.

1017
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do all of the other things.

1018
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: And I'll have you know, I had maybe in twenty fourteen.

1019
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: I had my first OD in two thousand and eight,

1020
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: and I was sober till then. I didn't do anything

1021
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: because I was so shook, like stared straight. So I

1022
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 3: had a long time to recover. But so I was

1023
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 3: just like, I want experiment and put together some of

1024
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 3: the women in the fashion industry, so models, designers, artists, editors,

1025
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 3: and just have them talk amongst each other. And I

1026
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: loved putting on an event because I was already a

1027
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: fashion editor, so I was working with RACT. I was

1028
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: a senior editor there and I was like gift bags,

1029
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: you know, all the fun things. So I had a

1030
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: lot of brand contacts and I loved that aspect of it.

1031
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: And I said, why don't I put them all in

1032
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: a room and see if I can learn from them?

1033
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: And in turn, they're like, yeah, Natalie, we love you.

1034
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: And they're all talking organically, and I love that they

1035
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 3: were just gluing to each other, and the right after

1036
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 3: the event, they were just like, when's the next one?

1037
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: And I didn't know that there was a next one.

1038
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: I just thought it and I was like fashion Mamaska

1039
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: just because I hashtagged that in like November twenty fourteen,

1040
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: and so many women were like, that's me, that's me.

1041
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: And then I was like, fucking trademark that you know.

1042
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: And then.

1043
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: By December, I was like, I don't know, do people

1044
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: ever like create membership? So who house? I'm a member,

1045
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: a longtime members so I was just always like, they

1046
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: do a membership, you know, should I? And I did

1047
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: a membership and there weren't communities like that yet, and

1048
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: I was like, this is my favorite thing, like to

1049
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 3: organize events for everyone, and just I'm type as fucks.

1050
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: So they all are multitalented and dynamic as fuck and

1051
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 3: they do things I can never do. But I know

1052
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: how to be the one to create the event and

1053
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: plant and so they were like, we like that you

1054
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 3: do that, and you can put us all in the

1055
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: same room and be the icebreaker. And I have the

1056
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: I'm a negotiator, and I know how to put together

1057
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: a deck and a sales pitch, and I have a

1058
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: business mind. So it was all of the things I

1059
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: love to do, and I'm a writer, so we had

1060
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: an editorial leg of everything, and I was just like,

1061
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: how fun is this? And by the way, I didn't

1062
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: leave my job for two years after running fashion MoMA,

1063
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 3: so I was doing both.

1064
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I was.

1065
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: An editor and doing fashion Mamas and it was a

1066
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: hard job. And I didn't ask for help during that

1067
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 3: time because I was so scared to ask for help.

1068
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1069
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just feel like moms sometimes feel like they

1070
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: have to run the world and be drained and be

1071
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 3: a shell of theirselves by the end, and that shows

1072
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 3: that you're productive. And then by twenty sixteen, I was like,

1073
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: maybe I should get an assistant because we actually are

1074
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: getting revenue. And I blew up organically. And that's my story.

1075
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: I don't like to share with people. Buy into me,

1076
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you the secrets of my business. I'll

1077
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: tell you right now, right it's not that deep, like

1078
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 3: believe in yourself, have crazy ambition, Like ambition is like

1079
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 3: the top of the top of the top, be obsessed

1080
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: and you wake up if you're thinking about that when

1081
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: you wake up, like how can I tweak this and

1082
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 3: make it special?

1083
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 4: Then you're in the right profession.

1084
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 3: If you're like, how can I make a business to

1085
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: make me money? Universe will will.

1086
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: Be like, m You're in it for the wrong reasons.

1087
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: So true, It's so true.

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00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1089
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: And so here it is six hundred members in members

1090
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 3: from Austin to Australia. In LA we have four hundred

1091
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 3: members alone. And it's just been this thing where they

1092
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: let me be unapologetically me, and I've become more of

1093
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: me in twenty twenty. And yeah, it's just it's amazing

1094
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 3: that in this day and age that something like this

1095
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: can exist for women because I feel like I'm really

1096
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 3: helping them be more of like be their real authentic

1097
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: selves all the time. And I don't know, I just

1098
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 3: it's corny, but I'm just like, I just I'm at

1099
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: service to them and I just want women and all

1100
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: people to win. And I say all people because I

1101
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: created another community too.

1102
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: I know. Congratulations. I saw that. That's amazing. And what's

1103
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: that one called is that's that's not just for moms,

1104
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: that's for that's really for everyone, which is really cool.

1105
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: It's called Creative Career Club. And my big thing was

1106
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: when I was a fashion editor, I.

1107
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: Was writing about my favorite trans designers, my favorite male designers,

1108
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 3: my favorite women designers that happened to not be moms

1109
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 3: that happened to be moms, My favorite non binary like

1110
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 3: all people. And that's always been my core. The reason

1111
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: why I created fashion Mom is because I literally saw

1112
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 3: a void in the universe. Verse was like creative bitch,

1113
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: and so I nailed what a community takes. So I

1114
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: have so many friends that are just like men and

1115
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: women that are just like, can you ask your community

1116
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: if they have like a graphic designer? And I was

1117
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 3: just like, wait, I see all of these like business

1118
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 3: minded platforms.

1119
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: Why like is that a thing? It's like, oh, it's

1120
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: only female empowerment. Well, there's a little a feel of trust,

1121
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: like people like the trust. Yes, even though talking to

1122
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: Mila today, like and I'm like I feel like we've

1123
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: leaned on our community for things that like she did

1124
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: tell me this today and like and like I just

1125
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: feel like these are the people I want to ask. Actually, yes,

1126
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: they know me, they know what I like, they know

1127
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: what I want, Like.

1128
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: Like like yeah, there are people we go to we

1129
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: like plan Dinners in New York and say hey, just

1130
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: meet us and we'll see what happens. And every time

1131
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: it's like we have to create real friendships and real

1132
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: bonds because we've like gravitated towards people who are the

1133
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 2: same Jerica and Mila.

1134
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 3: I want to say one thing, no matter what someone

1135
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 3: goes like, they're onto something like badass moms, did it

1136
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 3: something that'll They'll never be as you, They'll never be you.

1137
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm here for you, guys, like I want to hear

1138
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 3: from you and your thoughts and your unraveling and then

1139
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: the wins and the challenges. That's the thing.

1140
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: No one is youer than you.

1141
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: And I just feel like with fashion moments, a lot

1142
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: of people when I created the application form for CCC,

1143
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 3: I'll see why do you want to join?

1144
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: And they'll say, because you're proven that.

1145
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 3: You have a successful community and there's a lot of

1146
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: paid memberships out there, and you've built something that I've

1147
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: been watching along the way, and I want that for me.

1148
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: And I don't fit into the box that you've created

1149
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: for FM. And it's just as simple. It's not like

1150
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: I want to create what we're building with FM but

1151
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: broad in it. And it's not a wider net on

1152
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 3: purpose to drive a revenue. That's like everyone's a pond.

1153
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: It's like, no, you know, more people you're more than

1154
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: You're more than a mom. You're more than a mom.

1155
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 3: I miss it so much.

1156
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: I have so many friends. You have an amazing mother

1157
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: community and like in order to be in fashion, mama's

1158
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: the one requirement a is to be a mother. So yes,

1159
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: you've cultivated a community for motherhood and mothers, creatives and

1160
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: everyone alike. But like you also there's also creative side,

1161
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: your creative life, and a lot of times have applied

1162
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: for that and like God blessed it.

1163
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 3: That's awesome. There's different opportunities there. Because I want to

1164
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: make sure that's like loud and clear.

1165
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: But I have a question, how what is the application

1166
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: because I'm a member of sol house too, and like

1167
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: that was like very you know political, and I am

1168
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: too because in LA because I I've remember what maybe

1169
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: three years now, but like the l A house that

1170
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: was like the house is full, Like I don't know,

1171
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: I can.

1172
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 3: The members only community and elite anything or like exclusive anything.

1173
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 3: It causes for elitism and I've been called the world.

1174
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: Well look I get it. I get it, like I

1175
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: get cultivating a community a safe space where everyone feels

1176
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: safe and there's are so many different personalities and it's

1177
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: there's just there's there's just two different levels to this ship.

1178
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: I guess that's the only way I can say it.

1179
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: And so I understand that. So that's why I'm and like,

1180
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 1: that's why I'm curious because even like with our events,

1181
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: like from like me and Jamila, sometimes we would have

1182
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: events at my house, there's people like I don't know everyone,

1183
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't by strangers to my home.

1184
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: But like it's all about strangers. It's all about vibe,

1185
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 3: and it's it's like we don't want to make.

1186
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: It sound like I met someone one time. Some of

1187
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: my best friends now.

1188
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: Like Nisha, I didn't like shout out an she's getting a.

1189
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: Moment of it, the moment she introduced.

1190
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: You literally know each other because of Nih.

1191
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: This is I'm gonna slide this in real quick. This

1192
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: is not a paid ad. But if you if you've

1193
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: heard of us talking about moms, if you've seen us

1194
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 1: post on Instagram about Nisha, she's the bitch that makes

1195
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: the baw mass cakes. You see.

1196
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 2: She also curates all of our events, elevated room events.

1197
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: She basically does everything perfect No, but if you're you're

1198
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: a perfectly shaped like no, she's gorgeous. Maybe he had

1199
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 2: a helmet, so I watch head.

1200
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: She's gorgeous, her husband's gorgeous, her child's gorgeous. It's annoying,

1201
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: but listen, she makes great case if you're in l

1202
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: A and you need baked or events or even want

1203
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: to plan a wedding, Like she's literally playing a wedding too,

1204
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: So shout out to nishe you know.

1205
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: And so with that said, she I didn't know her

1206
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 3: from anyone, but she joined this and I'm sure she

1207
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 3: walked in. I'm not underestimating the applicant. She walked into this,

1208
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 3: and she's just like, I will invest in something like

1209
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 3: this because I see someone like a vibe that I'm

1210
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 3: interested in. So it's more about that. It's not an elitism,

1211
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 3: it's nothing or nothing. It's like, what's your vibe. You're like,

1212
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: you use your voice for change and your individual in

1213
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: your expression. And she was just like, that's me. So

1214
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 3: if she saw a brand that she's just like, that's

1215
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 3: not for me, but I'm taking all moms, I'm taking

1216
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 3: what I can get.

1217
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: Give me your tuition.

1218
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: But she'd be like, I could feel that you guys

1219
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: are just down for whatever. I make a book, right,

1220
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 3: and that's not what I do. And so when women

1221
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 3: are mad that, you know, we don't accept. And by

1222
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 3: the way, it's all backgrounds of all women. And I've

1223
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 3: gotten a lot of different hate mail.

1224
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: And it's just like we're creating.

1225
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 3: And I don't like to say, like say family with

1226
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 3: community because it sounds like culty. But it's just like

1227
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: we're just creating an energy that when you're in our

1228
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 3: space you can gain something from the people you talk to.

1229
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: You know, you're on the same level.

1230
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: And it's not like you're all have one hundred thousand

1231
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: followers or you're all founders of this.

1232
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: It's not that it's what you said.

1233
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: It's a vibe you're curating.

1234
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: It's a vibe. It's yeah, but it is. It is

1235
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: like a fine web of like how oh this person,

1236
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: oh you work in this like say you work in beauty,

1237
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: Oh you work in you know, tech. Somehow they can

1238
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: still come together or like oh maybe you are in

1239
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: maybe you're saying at home mom, but you you know,

1240
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: but you're you're saying at home mom, but.

1241
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: Like you have.

1242
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 3: Well you're simply in the fashion creative world. Like we

1243
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: have a jewelry designer in the group, it's so subdued

1244
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: and quiet, and bless her for it. And she doesn't

1245
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: like speak, she's not like us, but I know that

1246
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: she brings something because I love what she builds and creates,

1247
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: and I love that she's just speaking to a spec

1248
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: market and we believe in that. So you're not gonna

1249
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: always see a girl in there that's like wearing the

1250
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: lowest whatever and drinking all of the things. It's not

1251
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: about that. It's just it's a vibe. And unless you're

1252
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 3: a community leader, like I know, it's hard to target

1253
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 3: exactly what you mean by that.

1254
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: But also I think, even speaking back to what you

1255
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: said about you know.

1256
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: When you get a certain age, you start to address

1257
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: your inner child. There's just a thing like in general,

1258
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: as you grow and as you hopefully as you hit

1259
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 2: different you know, you grow an age, there are things

1260
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: that come to forefront and things that you know are

1261
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: become important, one of which immediately you start to be like,

1262
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: who am I spending giving my energy to?

1263
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: Who am I around?

1264
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: What are they about? What are their goals? Where are

1265
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: they going? Where are they headed? And are we in

1266
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: a like minded place? When I come around you and

1267
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: then I leave, am I gaining. Do I feel fulfilled

1268
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: and happy? Do I feel like I've gained something? Have

1269
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: you motivated me and inspired me and left me feeling

1270
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: full and hungry? Because overall, like that's the goal of life,

1271
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: Like money, while Instagram is cool, All these things are cool,

1272
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: but like, do I feel good?

1273
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: And am I growing?

1274
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 5: And I think when you grow spiritually, you inevitably that

1275
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 5: you grow in finances in abundance because you're aligned with

1276
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 5: your purpose, You're being authentically.

1277
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: You, and so you know, I think people can be.

1278
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: Like, oh, how you know I don't have enough Instagram

1279
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: followers somebody that's why I'm not in the club or X,

1280
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: Y and Z. But it's almost like not a filtering

1281
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: of Yeah, Like I even tell Erica with like even

1282
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: with Niches, our friend, her husband Brandon, all of our

1283
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 2: friends literally were like, damn, we can go within for

1284
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: mostly anything a cake, an event, photography, video and production

1285
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: and editing, make up.

1286
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if we really put.

1287
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 4: Our head, my life is a fashioned mama community, right.

1288
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: You curate your life in the same way that you

1289
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: would curate the space that you want to create.

1290
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: Anybody who's listening that is like, I don't understand why

1291
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 3: you don't accept everyone. Right, Think about if you were

1292
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 3: creating a community for whatever your industry is, tech or

1293
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 3: you know, kitchen whar or whatever it is. So you're

1294
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 3: telling me that you would just take any monies from

1295
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 3: people because you want to gain as many people as

1296
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 3: you want. That's not healthy for you, and that's not

1297
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: healthy for the person.

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Speaker 1: I think also, like people would join your community and

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01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: be like, I don't fit in here and then leave

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01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: because the same same like people come to visit our podcast, Like,

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01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: for example, we were just talking about that when we

1302
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: first signed up we first started our podcast. Somehow, I

1303
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: don't know how this happened to you guys, but we

1304
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: were in the religion and spiritual section of Apple Podcast. Okay,

1305
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: could you I don't want me to.

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01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 3: Get more bad religious experience for me, but okay, okay, okay,

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01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: I agree.

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01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: But like people that are looking for God and they're

1309
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: listening to us, they're either gonna hate us or love us.

1310
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna leave immediately, you know, Like you have to

1311
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: know your like we know your audience. If people like

1312
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: you either like good Mom's bad choices or you think

1313
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: we're fucking annoying, you think we're terrible parents. I don't know,

1314
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: but like I think, like you cut the fat off

1315
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: of shit when you know what your brand is. And

1316
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: I think knowing what your brand is this is really important.

1317
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: And you know, we don't really talk about like business

1318
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: or podcasting on this on our show a lot, but

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01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: like I think even me and me and Jamille like

1320
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: having a brand essentially, like we've really understood like who

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01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: we are, what we what we what we talk about represent,

1322
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: and what our topics are and it's and it's always

1323
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: authentic because it's authentically us. And I think that's really

1324
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: what it's come down to, is understanding who we are authentically.

1325
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: Are we perfect? Do we have it all figured out?

1326
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: A futly? Not right? But what I do know is that,

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01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: like I know, like who I am, I'm still figuring

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Speaker 1: out what I need and what I want for that person.

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01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, we have a platform where

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Speaker 1: people join us on this journey.

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Speaker 3: Do you know how much of a gift it is,

1332
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 3: by the way, ladies, to give your whole selves and

1333
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 3: share this. There's so many people that feel this inside

1334
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: what you guys are sharing, and they just hold it

1335
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 3: in because they're just like unpolished. I got my shit together,

1336
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 3: and you're just like, I got my shit together, but

1337
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 3: here are the things that are unraveling lately. And that's

1338
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 3: such a gift to know how to articulate it.

1339
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's articulation. I mean maybe sometimes

1340
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Honestly, it's it's there.

1341
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: I love it.

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01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: It's there, and our community has meant so much we

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01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: have this. Honestly, sometimes I call it accidental. I guess

1344
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: it was accidental at first, but now it's very intentional.

1345
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: And I think like with that intentionality is that a

1346
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: word with it comes comes that like protection, and comes

1347
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: that like curation and like, so going back to like

1348
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: how you curate your brand, like I understand it. I

1349
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: get it and like and.

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01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: I'll take all of the like l's along the way

1351
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 3: that people are just like I get it all, like

1352
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: I'll get all of the hate mail. Just it's just

1353
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 3: it's so important in the end to make sure that

1354
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 3: the crew feels feels like cohesive, right because I just

1355
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 3: can't yell louder that Okay, you know what, free reign.

1356
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: The community will come in, you'll pop in that like

1357
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: I admire greatly, and you'll just be like, literally, it's

1358
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: a free for all peace you really all want. And

1359
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 3: you know what, there's something like that, and I don't

1360
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 3: think it should be paid. If it's for everyone, I

1361
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 3: don't think any like something like that should be paid.

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Speaker 2: And also, you know what, it's a good like it's

1363
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: a it's a good check, you know, like not check

1364
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: like it checks you, because I think even for us.

1365
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 3: Like, oh wow, this is very classy, this is very elegant.

1366
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: These women are very smart and expensive fit.

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01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

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01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 3: Actually no, but no, but but I'm saying it actually

1369
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 3: grime to no.

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Speaker 1: No, remember the first spash Moms and that even even come.

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01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: I came to a photo shoot and I left you

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01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: in the car. Oh yeah, I was so cut that

1373
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: you had to take her. I don't know where.

1374
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: I just wat to the bathroom, but we stopped that

1375
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: you stayed in.

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01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: We would have I don't have it. I don't pay

1377
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: the membership. I'm not going to come in.

1378
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

1379
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know ticket. It was me.

1380
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: It was my fault. I literally was like, I don't know,

1381
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: just back, I wasn't with me. Actually it was like

1382
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: I took a solo picture I remember because that's where

1383
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: I met.

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01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: So it was like in the city, yes, yeah, story,

1385
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: and it's like I left a facial place in the front.

1386
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: It was like yeah, and I'm.

1387
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 3: Laughing at myself thinking about it.

1388
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: Go ahead, no, And it's funny because it all comes

1389
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: full circle because, like I told, because I had never

1390
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: been to like I think even maybe just i'd never

1391
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: really been.

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01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 4: That was after I didn't know how fucking memberships go.

1393
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: I was like, you stay here. Well, well, I think

1394
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: the whole thing is like it.

1395
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: Can seem really intimidating, but it doesn't have to know

1396
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 2: it isn't And like I think I think as even

1397
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: as well. And we're in a community where we encourage

1398
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: like a safe space and non judgment and all these things.

1399
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: But like as soon as we got to that event,

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01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 3: mam arz.

1401
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: Like I was like, everybody's cool, and I like everyone

1402
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: looks every you know, you have you build up this

1403
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: thing in your mind and like you see these women,

1404
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: You're like, well, what's the requirements to get in here?

1405
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 3: I think it's an impression that people, if it's something successful,

1406
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 3: it must be uptight or it must write. But then

1407
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 3: you get there and it's just like a group of

1408
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: cool working with brands, and they spend a lot of money,

1409
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, guess what, We're never going to

1410
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 3: change our lucy goosey ways. We're just going to be ourselves.

1411
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 3: And that's the thing that we're trying to change that

1412
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 3: connotation because I think a lot of brands you think,

1413
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 3: you go and you're like, I'm just like, did you

1414
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 3: see me at the last summit in March?

1415
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: Like I was late to the.

1416
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 3: Summit because I was on edibles and I told everyone

1417
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 3: there and I'm just like, I am so because I

1418
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 3: heard a COVID thing. But we're it's not going to

1419
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 3: bother us, right, And then that weekend we got locked down.

1420
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, so what happened? So she stayed in

1421
01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: the car the car I took.

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01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 3: You hate the like, no, no baby was she was

1423
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 3: a tiny one.

1424
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: I didn't have. Actually, I now think about it, I

1425
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: didn't have my daughter there. No, No, I had, Okay,

1426
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: But I met ur Tiera and I just remember her

1427
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: daughter had her hair was so beautifully braided, and I

1428
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: was like.

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01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 3: She does every she's another one because every.

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01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: No and then and your community has connected to so

1431
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: many people because then artieras start to work with Nisha

1432
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: like your community, like because of the way that you

1433
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,479
Speaker 1: run it, it really truly is impactful. And that's really

1434
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: what I think you're trying to do is like be

1435
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: impactful and be useful and like make like beneficial connections network.

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01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 3: A member applies, I'm already playing matchmaker and I'm already

1437
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: like who would she buy with? And like what would

1438
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 3: they create together? And the moment that happens and you

1439
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 3: manifested it upon application, you're just like, yeah, and there's

1440
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 3: a MoMA matchmaker system now.

1441
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 4: Really, you know, we love an astrology or a connection.

1442
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 3: Literally the other day, like she was like.

1443
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what what the fuck is his rising sign?

1444
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, but you know him.

1445
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 4: She's like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if I

1446
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 4: know him. I need to know what the internet says?

1447
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: What does the connection? What did the stars say?

1448
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 3: What does that start saying?

1449
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: Matter?

1450
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 3: You get it and what you're creating is the same

1451
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 3: way you wouldn't just let any person in just because

1452
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 3: you want to. It's quality over quantity, and quality doesn't

1453
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 3: mean you've got to look a certain way.

1454
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: It's a fine I feel like you have to look

1455
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: at your brand, no matter how large or extensive it is,

1456
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: Like you look at your circle, what is it that?

1457
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: Like?

1458
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: How who do you want in your circle?

1459
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 6: Like?

1460
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: You don't want everybody in your circle? Are you a

1461
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: bitch because you don't want to be friends with everybody? No,

1462
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: Like you can love people from Afar, you can support

1463
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: people from Afar, but not everybody needs to be in circle.

1464
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 3: Point of that, though, there are people that are like,

1465
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 3: I'll take anything, and but the thing is, I don't

1466
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 3: know about you, but I'm very skeptical of that, so

1467
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 3: they'll want to.

1468
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 4: I think when you create something meaningful, money will.

1469
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: Come, yes, and then and then and then it will

1470
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: come naturally because you're you're so passionate about what you're doing.

1471
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: And then the number one thing when I read so

1472
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 3: the important thing. I don't know if anyone's building a

1473
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 3: community listening, but the most important thing to add on

1474
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 3: your application is why do you want to join? I

1475
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 3: know it sounds like they're gonna you just want me

1476
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 3: to kiss your ass, but it's really that you want

1477
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 3: to know why they want to joy? What are they

1478
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: missing in their life? And it's data for you. And

1479
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 3: what I always hear is like, I haven't found this group,

1480
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: or there's a lot of groups, but I see that

1481
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 3: you guys are pro cannabis, or I see that you

1482
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 3: guys are activists, and you're just like, okay, I'm in

1483
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 3: the right direction.

1484
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1485
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: Sometimes there are women that are to know what I wrote.

1486
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: I was literally, what was your answer? I think you

1487
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: asked me.

1488
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 3: Application? I mean, a mom crew, it's so weird.

1489
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: What should I write? I was like, I don't know.

1490
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: I really want to know what I wrote. Maybe you

1491
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: can find it. Wait, I want you to find it.

1492
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 1: It's an email.

1493
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 3: I was just like, but I have a gangster research

1494
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 3: and so I could.

1495
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: Find it, right. I don't want well.

1496
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 3: I was just like on Erica's go too, because I

1497
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 3: guess I didn't care about.

1498
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: Going to the party in mam Rag. I just stayed

1499
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: in the car.

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01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 3: Are you sure you have a plus?

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01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: Because I was like, my husband noticed you guys. I

1502
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 1: was like, hey, no, I'm part of this community.

1503
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 4: I was like, I've never been to any of the events.

1504
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: I probably need to go. I was like, we're going.

1505
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: I was like, are you sure I can come? And

1506
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 1: then I was like, are the kids going to be there?

1507
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: I think I was wearing like a sea through pink

1508
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 3: hot pink to do.

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01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were actually was.

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01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 3: I was like, let me put let me put on

1511
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 3: a shirt underneath because my nipples are on.

1512
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: And then I was like women brought their kids to Coachella. Yeah,

1513
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: and then but they we're the only ones without our

1514
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: kids and were and that was a few though, but

1515
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: that but that I love too, because like even before

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01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: then though, like I've been going to Coachella since I

1517
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: was like maybe seven seventeen, Like Natalie here doing it

1518
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: in the car. Yeah, I remember until I went to

1519
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: like I think Coldplay was playing. It was like two thousand.

1520
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 3: This is such an ut radio baby boy, oh wait?

1521
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: And I saw them too.

1522
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 2: But I.

1523
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: I remember before I had kids, seeing someone a child.

1524
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this visual because I had never seen

1525
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: it before. I was like this god father and his

1526
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: son on his on his back, and the son had

1527
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: like the head and the rackchella. And I was on

1528
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: drugs for sure, and I was like, what the fuck

1529
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: the other kids?

1530
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 3: But isn't that just powerful?

1531
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: Wait?

1532
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: But but I was even at that point, like I

1533
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: was judging for sure, uncause I had no kids, and

1534
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: I was probably on the dasted or something. But also

1535
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: I was like, it's kind of like I want to

1536
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: bring my kids, but then every time I means to go,

1537
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: it's like it's perfectly at the time where like we

1538
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: need a fucking break.

1539
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 3: Last year, my husband that was the same the kid bro.

1540
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: Actually, you should listen to that episode because that it's

1541
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: actually one of our like most epic episodes called Momchella.

1542
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeay yeah, and we're and we hit you with it,

1543
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: like we go down exactly what we did and you're

1544
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 3: in there. Did you have like a fear and loathing

1545
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas vibe?

1546
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 6: Oh?

1547
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: Like yeah, wait, we took We did a lot of

1548
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: drugs by accident one day, by accident, on purpose.

1549
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 3: We took them voluntarily.

1550
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: And then yeah, it was it was, it was. It

1551
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: was pretty up. But your events, I mean, but your

1552
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: event was a highlight because it was so beautiful, beautifully curated,

1553
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: and I saw children there at Essentially what our brand

1554
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: is about, which is like being able to do both,

1555
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: being to go to a music festival but still bring

1556
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: your kids and have your partner there or not, you know,

1557
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 1: and like have fun and that's okay, you can do both.

1558
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: It's hard to fuck to do both.

1559
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 3: But it's important, but you can.

1560
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: It's important to sometimes get sucked up. Still, sometimes you

1561
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: gotta bring that kid to the birthday party.

1562
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes I like, you need to train your

1563
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: kids to be cool. Okay, you need to train your kids.

1564
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 2: Like we're gonna get to the party, and I'm gonna

1565
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 2: let you stay up late, but go find the other

1566
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: kids and then go away. Or if there are no kids, yeah,

1567
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: sleep in different beds if I tell you to go

1568
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 2: to sleep.

1569
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 3: Just a birthday party last weekend, socially distant birthday party,

1570
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 3: masks on and my son saw that there was wine

1571
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 3: in the corner and he's like, Mommy, do you want

1572
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 3: my mom juice? And he went to go get it

1573
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 3: for me and he gave it to me. Wait wait, wait.

1574
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: We went to a party let from like a neighbor

1575
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood.

1576
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 2: I didn't know them well, but it was like a

1577
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: very small social distancing party whatever. And I was having

1578
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 2: a bad day and I was just waiting to get

1579
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 2: to this party. This is me being judgmental. And there

1580
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: were black people. I'm like, they're definitely go a least

1581
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 2: have like wine at the party. For sure, it's going

1582
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: to be like an adult but kid party. So I

1583
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,799
Speaker 2: get to the fucking party. There's no fucking line. I'm kissed,

1584
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: but I'm.

1585
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: There, so you know.

1586
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 2: And then anyway, I've started to like let go of

1587
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: the wine. I fucking drank her pres sonds then and

1588
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 2: I met other cool moms. You know that we had

1589
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: meaningful conversations. In my opinion, and even in those conversations,

1590
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 2: I had kind of judged you when they walked in

1591
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: about what I thought they were going to be, and

1592
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: they're actually all really cool. And I find myself doing

1593
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 2: that and then realizing it, you know, but like I

1594
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: don't know the point of this is, Well, if they

1595
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 2: didn't have wine at the party.

1596
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: Well, I think. Also also, it's like that even when

1597
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 1: you are us who are not supposed to be just rental,

1598
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: we can be sometimes and be surprised by the women

1599
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: that we meet.

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Speaker 3: Right and now I want to because you want and

1601
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 3: Sharon shot on my therapist, I'm always like sharing says,

1602
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 3: we reject ourselves almost because we just don't want to

1603
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 3: face the rejection if it happens. So like, there'll be

1604
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,839
Speaker 3: times where I walk into like this cookie cutter events.

1605
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 3: It's kind of like where's the wine and already be

1606
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 3: the problem because I just want to like shake it

1607
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 3: up at that moment and let them hate me because

1608
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 3: they're gonna hate me eventually. It's like I'm gonna already

1609
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 3: say it. But then I find that one girl's like right,

1610
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 3: and I'm just like babe, and it's her party right

1611
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 3: right right, It's like there she is, Let's go to

1612
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 3: the corner and smoke and we'll be right then exactly

1613
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 3: guess why we are running our ship and doing it.

1614
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 3: But it's just like you feel that, and it's just

1615
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 3: like I always feel that the moment I walk into

1616
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 3: a room, and that's my own triggers that I need

1617
01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 3: to unwrap.

1618
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: I think that's great.

1619
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 4: Tying up the boat of this episode is like that

1620
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 4: you can't judge other moms because.

1621
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: You just don't know. You really don't know to talk no,

1622
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: and energy is important and connection is important and community

1623
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: is important, and that's why conversations are important because you

1624
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: meet people when you talk to them and you're like

1625
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: ohh and they call back that mushroom layer, whether you

1626
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: took them or not, and then they show you like, noah, bitch,

1627
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 1: you were wrong.

1628
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: And sometimes it is such a projection of self, and

1629
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: my therapist shout out to Isaiah said the same thing

1630
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 2: to me this week.

1631
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: He was like, you know, I noticed you you don't

1632
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: like to be being told what to do.

1633
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 2: I had a dream and he was like, dismantling my dream,

1634
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: because that's what hypnotherapy does, tells you about your subconscious

1635
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 2: and he was like, you sound like because in the

1636
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: dream I was like I was in the forest and

1637
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: then went to the airport and I was the only

1638
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 2: one who had money. And he was like, you sound

1639
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: like you feel like you don't have a lot of support.

1640
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 2: And then he said, sometimes do you think are you

1641
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 2: being your authentic self or do you think you expect

1642
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: people to judge you? And that's why you have this

1643
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: thought of you don't want to be told what to do,

1644
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 2: and so you have kind of maybe a rebellious nature.

1645
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: And at first, like it seemed accurate, but it also

1646
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: was like a lot of words. But now Sharon and

1647
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 2: you are confirming that it's true. Everything everything is and

1648
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: a projection how we feel our judgment as getting angry,

1649
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: getting up to the punch.

1650
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 3: Yes, we're just like, let me define me before you

1651
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 3: start putting words in my mouth like this is me.

1652
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm shaking shit up, you know what I mean, and

1653
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 3: like parting words. But like we success comes in so

1654
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 3: many ways. You can be as successful without the trauma,

1655
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 3: you could be as successful with the trauma and your

1656
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 3: party favors. You can be all the things. It's your

1657
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 3: ambition that gets you there. And just believe that you

1658
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 3: can do it and don't let anyone fucking tell you

1659
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 3: that you can do it right. It's absolutely possible. And

1660
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 3: if you need support, there are so many communities. There's

1661
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 3: good moms, bad choices, there's fashion moms, there's creative career club.

1662
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 3: There's so many ways you can go. There is help,

1663
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: and I don't think you can do it alone.

1664
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 1: You can't.

1665
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 2: You you become empowered within your community, and I'm sure

1666
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: I need to see that.

1667
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: Yes I needed like, oh there's other women.

1668
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: Like literally, even even when me and Eric had first

1669
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 2: started this, I don't think we really realized what we

1670
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 2: had embarked on. We're just like, let's do this thing.

1671
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 2: We didn't know it's going to be a whole thing.

1672
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: And I think maybe the first week we put out

1673
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: the episode, like only our friends are going to listen,

1674
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: you know, like hopefully not our moms. And just randomly

1675
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 2: we got a couple of d ms, like from like

1676
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 2: Nellie in Florida, who's like my friend, now you know

1677
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and like Rainy in Australia, and it

1678
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 2: was like these little universal messages that was like keep going,

1679
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 2: this is important. This is important because there's somewhere somewhere

1680
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: who gives a fuck up that you're fucking up, and

1681
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 2: so were they.

1682
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 3: And this is the absolutely GMBC till I die, Fashion Mamas,

1683
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 3: all right, hold till tilburd in the dirt.

1684
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming.

1685
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 3: This was so fun. Natalie Alcala n A t A

1686
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 3: l i e A l c A l A. And

1687
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 3: at Fashion Mamas, you know how to say that. And

1688
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 3: at Creative Career Club, mama's m A m A okay, see.

1689
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: Yes, Eric gets so mad at me. It is m

1690
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: A m A right, yes, m m O M m A.

1691
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the so mad? I get so irritated.

1692
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: Even like when we're creating merch sometimes it tries to

1693
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: sneak in the m O M m A like bitch,

1694
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: No one spells it that way. M A m A right.

1695
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 4: It's modern it's modern, it's more okay, I thoughd.

1696
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: G M b C.

1697
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 2: You know where to find us at Good Mom's Underscore

1698
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: Bad Choices and join our newsletter at Good Moms, Bad

1699
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 2: Choices dot com.

1700
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: And make sure you join Patreon. You guys, we have

1701
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: tons and tons of secret episodes on Patreon that you

1702
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: you just don't hear everything here. I mean I think

1703
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: you think you do, but you're really hear all the ship.

1704
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of personal ship over there. I

1705
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 1: can't hate.

1706
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 3: I know, I always do this. He gets so mad.

1707
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: I want to commit.

1708
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna commit. I'm gonna ask Natalie, will you do

1709
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 3: take off my shirt?

1710
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: No, you're me and like I always wantsh sh.

1711
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 3: My boes when nobody asked.

1712
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: We also do Friends Good Friends after Dark.

1713
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'll do anything. Okay, So even if

1714
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 3: it's just.

1715
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: A zoom, like maybe you and your husband can come

1716
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 2: on since he has this iconic game and this great slur.

1717
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 1: Because I always want.

1718
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: To talk more and so we also include more of talking,

1719
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 2: more intimate personal talk.

1720
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 3: Blood will come on and speaking.

1721
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: Okay.

1722
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1723
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: We have a segment on on Patreon called Good Moms

1724
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: after Dark where we interview our friends, like our homies,

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01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: and we just talk and we just get a little more.

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01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: Just dig in there, we get we're getting more deep.

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01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: We can't let to be honest, we just get drunk.

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Speaker 2: We talk.

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Speaker 1: Wild. You can, but you can find us on Patreon

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Speaker 1: at patreon dot com backslash good Mom's Bad Choices. You

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Speaker 1: have to actually put that in your space bar because

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Speaker 1: apparently we're explicit.

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Speaker 3: You believe it.

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Speaker 4: You can serch us shock anyway, guys, We will see

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Speaker 4: you next week.

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Speaker 1: Bye.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, have you joined Patreon, where we offer even

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Speaker 2: more juicy content.

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01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 1: Yes, y'all. We have secret episodes, secret segments, and some

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Speaker 1: very personal blog posts that we don't share on the interwebs.

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Speaker 1: So make sure you go check out our patreon. That's

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Speaker 1: patreon dot com backslash good Mom's Bad Choices. Here's a

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Speaker 1: little sneak peek.

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Speaker 6: So I did Playboy and then I become a mom

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01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 6: and do Playboy. Where's the difference?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: And you know he didn't know how to answer the question.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's also yeah, asking them like what

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01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: would make you say this or what makes you feel

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01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: a certain way? It has a lot to do with

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Speaker 1: men in their own insecurities.

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Speaker 6: Men's insecurities. But I think a lot of the things

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Speaker 6: that we don't realize is men's ideas of the women

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Speaker 6: that they're with. Decidally, where we've all got to unlearn

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Speaker 6: that that's what you guys do, right. It's like, what

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Speaker 6: is a mom supposed to do? Not talk about sucking

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Speaker 6: dick anymore because I have breast milk still in there,

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Speaker 6: like