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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on your war room for insider news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Selectio Elliott and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Draft show here in the SWBC Mortgage Studios.

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Speaker 1: As the Big Boys guy said, Brian brought us with

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Speaker 1: my scouting buddy, Dane Brugler. Day, David Hellman is out

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Speaker 1: on assignment. We'll welcome him back next week as we

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Speaker 1: make our trip to the Senior Bowl. Welcome, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you again. Hard to believe the All

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Speaker 1: Star season is here. We've the Shrine games going on

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Speaker 1: this week, NFLPA Collegia Bowl. Also this week we have

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Speaker 1: a couple of All Star games already done, the College

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Speaker 1: Gridirons Showcase, the Tropical Bowl, a few others. So but

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Speaker 1: the big one as you mentioned next week in Mobile. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: eager to get down there. And how many Senior Bowls

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Speaker 1: for you? Well, I've been going to him since nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety two. Quite a few. Yeah. And Phil Savage and

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Speaker 1: his staff, Phil former general manager Cleveland Browns with with

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens, and he does a great job of

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Speaker 1: putting together a roster. And I want to get into that, Dane,

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Speaker 1: I really do, because as you said, we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: the whole crew is gonna be down there Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Dane, like I said, we're gonna be doing

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Speaker 1: shows down there Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday from Mobile. Looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that as always. But I want to get into

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Speaker 1: some things, Dane, about the game itself, things that you're

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Speaker 1: looking at. Rosters are due out today at noon, but

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Speaker 1: you and I have a really good idea of who

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Speaker 1: is going to be on this roster. Are on both

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Speaker 1: teams roster North South coached by the Houston Texans and

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Speaker 1: the Texans South and then the Denver Broncos is the

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Speaker 1: other one. So yeah, well we'll see that. We'll be

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Speaker 1: a part of that. But I want to I want

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Speaker 1: to pick your brain again on these on the Senior

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Speaker 1: I'll see if I share some of the same ideas

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Speaker 1: that you have. Okay, Yeah, And I'm actually working on

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Speaker 1: a piece of ten storylines that I'm really focusing on

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Speaker 1: and so we'll kind of we'll go over some of those.

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Speaker 1: One I want to talk about as Marcus Davenport yea,

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Speaker 1: the pass rusher we've talked about before from UT san Antonio,

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Speaker 1: the basketball background, big athlete, he's powerful. It doesn't quite

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Speaker 1: know what he's doing yet, but just from a trades perspective,

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Speaker 1: hard not to be excited about what he can do.

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Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to make a lot

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Speaker 1: of money at Mobile during the week we've In my

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Speaker 1: mock draft, I had him going top fifteen. He needs

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Speaker 1: a big week in Mobile to kind of cement that

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Speaker 1: status and prove that he belongs in that mid first

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Speaker 1: round discussion. So plenty for him to gain next week.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna We're not gonna worry about him testing

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Speaker 1: well at the combine. Are Wait? No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: See that's something some now people and UT san Antonio play.

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Speaker 1: They play good football, ye play. Really, they played good coaches,

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Speaker 1: good coaches down there. Everything's well done down there. So

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Speaker 1: this is not a kid it's coming from a no

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Speaker 1: name program that's going to have to try and elevate

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Speaker 1: his game. I think people have gone through there. You know,

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Speaker 1: you've seen his talent. Dane's absolutely right. You're talking about

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Speaker 1: interesting to see what he weighs. There's times I've seen

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Speaker 1: a defensive end, hand down defensive end. But when you

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Speaker 1: watch his tape in San Antonio, he plays into two

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Speaker 1: to evaluate him there. But now you're going to see

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Speaker 1: understand it. I would have really liked to see him

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Speaker 1: Some of the best three technique work I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: to have seen Hurst who's a guy that you know,

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Speaker 1: agree with you about Davenport. What else you're thinking about

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Speaker 1: we watched the tape on Shakim Griffin together and it's

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Speaker 1: so hard not to just love the kid absolutely, you know,

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Speaker 1: But I've got a comparison for him when you're when

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Speaker 1: you're done with your Yeah, yeah, I just feel like

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Speaker 1: when he catches it, he'll get north south in a hurry.

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Speaker 1: And and you know there's things about here's I'm trying

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Speaker 1: And again, we try and keep the draft show very

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Speaker 1: much an open conversation. Yes, we all work for the

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Speaker 1: they could use a player down the field, a down

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Speaker 1: if in fact, but I think Taekwon Smith will be

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, people love Alan Robins. The guy is not

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Speaker 1: that we're raving about him as well. You know, the

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Speaker 1: a scout and you know, I felt like though, you know,

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Speaker 1: corner prospect that you have to consider. We've talked about

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Speaker 1: if I met Denzel Ward right? Yeah, not mistaken about him,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, absolutely another thing that you maybe thinking about here. Well,

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Speaker 1: while we're talking about Trekaan Smith the receiver, I think

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Speaker 1: the another storyline I'll be looking at during practice is

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Speaker 1: the siver position as a whole. YEA, will these seniors

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Speaker 1: So I think there's plenty of different styles of wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Dane would like to know ideal position pairing for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys at nineteen and fifty. His is a defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: and a wide receivers. It's a really good question. That

471
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Speaker 1: is a great question. I mean, the players matter. You know,

472
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Speaker 1: ideally he's probably thinking and then you're whoever you have

473
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Speaker 1: Jay Moore, Yeah exactly, Yeah, exactly, it's what he's probably thinking.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, if it's one thing to say, uh,

475
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Speaker 1: you know, wide receiver. But in let's say the first round,

476
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Speaker 1: because I'd love Calvin Ridley in the first sure you would,

477
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Speaker 1: So you're pairing might be wide receiver. Yeah exactly. I

478
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Speaker 1: mean I ideally I'm not going offense offense, but that's

479
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Speaker 1: the way the board falls to me. I think Calvin

480
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Speaker 1: Ridley would be an ideal fit at the Z He's

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Speaker 1: the ideal fit at number nineteen and then at fifty

482
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Speaker 1: in Isaiah Wynn, Yeah exactly. Maybe uh Will Hernandez, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think one of those two and those are two

484
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Speaker 1: starters that instantly make your offense. Oh no, you plug

485
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Speaker 1: both those guys in and go play exactly. So your

486
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Speaker 1: offense is a lot better than it was last year

487
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Speaker 1: just with those first two picks. So for me, it

488
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Speaker 1: depends on who's available in the play. So in that scenario,

489
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Speaker 1: I would go wide receiver, gard Would you would you

490
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Speaker 1: think about taking would you think about we talked about

491
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Speaker 1: that's Connor Williams. I'm gonna get Connor Williams drafted here.

492
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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm gonna figure a way to kind

493
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Speaker 1: of hell hometown, Kay, trying to get him drafted here

494
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Speaker 1: and then bring him home. Need if I need to

495
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Speaker 1: play a tackle, I'll play me a tackle if I

496
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Speaker 1: have to. Some but any thought about taking again, would Edmonds?

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Speaker 1: You know, would you would you go linebacker? Would you

498
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Speaker 1: go linebacker? And think? Because of again, we don't feel

499
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Speaker 1: like that the linebackers. I mean, I've done one hundred

500
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: and two players now you've done far more than me.

501
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't look like the linebacker position is gonna stretch. No,

502
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Speaker 1: And maybe I have to sit there and think about

503
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Speaker 1: that at nineteen first, if a guy like Edmonds, I

504
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Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think Smith is gonna be a

505
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Speaker 1: ro Quants. I don't think he's gonna be their linebacker

506
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Speaker 1: from Georgia. I don't, but then again, he might not

507
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Speaker 1: be everybody's cup of tea exactly under sized linebacker that

508
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Speaker 1: really kind of plays one position if you think about that.

509
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Speaker 1: And we saw guys in the past, Lavonte David and

510
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: other undersized linebackers not later those exactly because of the

511
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Speaker 1: size and the measureles and they don't fit in that

512
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Speaker 1: perfect little box that some teams look for at a

513
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Speaker 1: certain position. So I agree, I think it is possible

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Speaker 1: either Roquan Smith or Tremaine Edmonds is there at nineteen

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Speaker 1: and if they are, you gotta be ready yet, can't

516
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Speaker 1: go wrong with that. You can't go wrong with that pick,

517
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Speaker 1: and then you can turn around and once again you

518
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Speaker 1: could grab that second round if you want to go

519
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Speaker 1: to the watch sier. I think the wide receiver and

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Speaker 1: maybe cornerback might be the two positions that you could

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Speaker 1: stretch this thing a little bit. And you I think

522
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Speaker 1: those usually are the two positions. H you know, we

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Speaker 1: see the most quality of the player right right? And

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Speaker 1: does this team did they need a corner in the

525
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Speaker 1: first roll? Think we'll think about this, what if you

526
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Speaker 1: were to play if there were questions about Byron Jones

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Speaker 1: and they thought about playing a Woozier at safety. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even though a Woozier started for you at left at

529
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Speaker 1: left corner. Pretty well. Yeah, again, I'm sorry. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is again Dallas cowboy kind of talk here. But

531
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're national, we're trying to talk about

532
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: other guys too. But but but think about this, if

533
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Speaker 1: they were thinking about him moving a Wooziator, like playing

534
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: as a free safe. We've seen he's a physical enough tackler, sure,

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00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: we've seen him cover. You could put Byron Jones down.

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00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: He played some safety at Colorado. Sure he did. In

537
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Speaker 1: the Green Bay game when he got hurt, he was

538
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: playing safety. So I mean he could do it. There's

539
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: no question. And that's something that Favorite Woods is a

540
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: guy we talked about. Right. We don't know what this

541
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Speaker 1: coaching staff, how they feel about it. You know, are

542
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: they open minded? You know, it is depends on who

543
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: they add in this draft, whether it's a corner or

544
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Speaker 1: safety or you know, with all the young guys in

545
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: the secondary, maybe they focus on d line and linebacker. Yeah. Uh,

546
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: you know the original question mentioned with defensive line in

547
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: the first round. Right right now, you're looking at the

548
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: one technique, which could be drawn Payne or Vita Vea. Yeah,

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00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: it could be the three techs. See and we talk

550
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: about the influence of Rod Marinelli here and the fact

551
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't want to take a first round defensive

552
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: tackle or a nose tackle. Maybe this is bigger than

553
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli. Maybe maybe now it's like you know what,

554
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, we we've we've kind of gone this route, Yeah,

555
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: without addressing that spot, and at nineteen, maybe Damn will

556
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: need to address it. With all due respect to the

557
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. If I'm the general manager, I'm telling him, listen,

558
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: tell us the type of players that you want, right,

559
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: and we'll find them. Yeah, don't tell us where we're

560
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: gonna draft, don't tell me where I'm a drafts, what

561
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: kind of players you want. It's gonna fit your scheme

562
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: and make us a better football team, and we'll get them. Well,

563
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: we'll add them where we see fit. Right, And so

564
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: if that's the first round, then that's the first round.

565
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: You know, it depends on you know, what this team needs.

566
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: But I think, yeah, one technique nose tackle should be

567
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: in the discussion, especially if Payne or Veya is available. Yeah, Okay, Now, Grady,

568
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: we talk about Viata Veya, the defensive tackle from or

569
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: nose from Washington. Grady wants to know how far would

570
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: you go to get him and a trade up scenario, Yeah,

571
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: trade up scenario. See, you're higher on Vea than I am.

572
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: I like ya, I do. He's rare, but we see

573
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: him as a first round player. Yeah, okay, but if

574
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: you felt like, okay, say the Cowboys like him like me, yeah,

575
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: and think he is a top fifteen player, which probably is. Yeah,

576
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Those traits good. And I'm not

577
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: talking about going to ten or eleven. I'm talking about

578
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: going to fifteen. Well, is that where you would feel

579
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: the most comfortable? If I feel like that's where he's

580
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: he should sit. Yeah, okay, So you're the general manager,

581
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: vitave is available at twelve? Are you called? If he is?

582
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: If he's my if he is one of my top

583
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: players on my busy for you, I think there's others

584
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: I would like that, not a defensive but I'm talking

585
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: about my stack. I don't know if my stat I

586
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 1: mean there might be a guy. Hell, you might like, uh,

587
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean you might like somebody. I mean we've talked

588
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: about those linebackers might be there. That's that's exactly the point,

589
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: because Sievers at pick number twelve, there's a good chance

590
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: that offensive linemen, those linebackers are still available. Yeah, and

591
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: so at that point you still have three or four

592
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: players you feel comfortable with. Why you you know, you'll

593
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: need to trade up to get one of them with

594
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: fall Okay, that's that's what I'm saying. Yeah, he Grady

595
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: was just wanting to know though, if you were wiped out,

596
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: if you're wiped out, the linebackers aren't there, Yeah, the

597
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: receiver is not there. A little bit of desperation. Yeah,

598
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: you don't want to take you don't want to take

599
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: one of those running backs. We haven't talked about that though.

600
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: Think about that, I mean one of those running backs. Yeah,

601
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: there might be a guy there you really like, you know,

602
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: if you don't window dress your board. Yeah, but you know,

603
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't take a running back now, nor should

604
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: they because last year the Florida State Dalvin Cook was

605
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: on their board when they picked Taco right. Well, it's

606
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: the same thing with you know quarterbacks. Yeah, Baker mayfields

607
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: there at eighteen or nineteen. I don't think they should

608
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: take you phone rings. Then, oh yeah, let me ask

609
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: you this, would you trade away from you? Would would

610
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: you trade away from Edmonds or Smith if they were

611
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: on the board, only if an offer blew me away

612
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: like a future one. You know, a team trade I

613
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: don't know, say Baker Mayfield's available, and a team you

614
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: say the Jaguars or it's a Kansas City run up

615
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: the board exactly. It would have to include a future

616
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 1: one for me to make that move. And even they

617
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: still want to pick in this draft? Oh absolutely, yeah. Yeah,

618
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: there's plenty of death. There's plenty of good players. This

619
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: draft does not have five top five players or ten

620
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: top ten players those guys. Yeah, but there's still plenty

621
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: of talent in this draft. There's plenty of Pro bowlers

622
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: that will come out of this draft. You just have

623
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Speaker 1: to go find them. And so I'm not going to

624
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: completely trade out of this draft, but leave the flat

625
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: phone lines open. Let me ask you this, would you

626
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: be more nervous picking early in this draft or where

627
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are picking? I mean, there's whenever you're picking early,

628
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: there's always bus potential. Sure, but I will always take

629
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Speaker 1: the higher pick. I mean, I mean, I don't know,

630
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: I don't mean yeah, I don't mean that in a

631
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: stupid way, but yeah, I understand what you're But you're saying,

632
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: there's not that. There's not those there's not a big

633
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: it's not it's not okay, it's not uh, it's not

634
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: Zeke and Ramsey and Bosa and that at the top

635
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: of that board, right, there's not a huge drop off

636
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Speaker 1: from who you're gonna get at eight and who you're

637
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Speaker 1: gonna get at nineteen. Yeah, so by by saying that,

638
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't need to go get Vida Veya, that's if

639
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Speaker 1: that's what you think. Potentially the only thing is is

640
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Speaker 1: if you get wiped out with Edmunds and Smith and

641
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: Ridley and yeah, you know whoever else chance you could

642
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: get wiped absolutely And now I mean you could be

643
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Speaker 1: looking at one of those quarterbacks, or you could be

644
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: looking at you know, maybe a running back, because ideally

645
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: you have there's probably five guys they're gonna really want, okay,

646
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: and then you have to watch them okay by pick

647
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Speaker 1: twelve only four or left by pick fourteen only two

648
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: or left you know, yeah now now and then now

649
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: you're yeah, you watch it and you kind of play

650
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: the odds and say, Okay, what are the chances that

651
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: one of these few players that we really want is

652
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: gonna fall to us? They just had to get to

653
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: the odds, calculate what they're what they're comfortable with, and

654
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: so it's something that it's it's a little early, we're

655
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: talking too much in depth about the trade up scenario,

656
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: but it's something that we'll be talked about. But yeah,

657
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, if you look at the depth of

658
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: the draft, like you said, if I'm comfortable taking Vita

659
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Vea at fifteen, I should be comfortable to try and

660
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 1: move up to get him. If I think if I

661
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: feel like things are getting wiped out, agree, Yeah, I

662
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Speaker 1: feel like I should. Yeah, Okay, I just want to

663
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Speaker 1: make sure you're in the same page with me. I

664
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Speaker 1: don't think you are. But I don't think Vey as

665
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: much as you. But in theory, I understand. Would Veya

666
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: help this team, Yeah, definitely would. Who would help this

667
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: team more the line take the linebackers out of it. Okay,

668
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: who would help the team more if they went drafted?

669
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: Vita Vea, Connor Williams one of those guys. I would

670
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: take Vita Vea in that scenario. Let me ask you

671
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: who would help this team. I'm such as who would

672
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: help this team better? Maurice Hurst as a three technique

673
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: or Vita as a one technique? Who would have the

674
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: bigger impact. See that's the thing about it is because

675
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm thinking who would have the bigger impact? I think

676
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: I think hurstwood the three technique. Yeah. But the problem is, though,

677
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: I got to make sure my guy, Mallie Collins is

678
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: gonna play the one and he's healthy with the foot

679
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: exact because that that that affects everything. So if if

680
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: you say Hurst, then that means Collins is your one

681
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: and is he gonna be a liability? There is he

682
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: gonna be played. I'm gonna pull up Ben Rogers on

683
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: you here. My buddy is for a buddy from one

684
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: oh five three. Who's got the bigger bus potential? Between

685
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: Hurst and Vita Veya, I think it's Vea. And that's

686
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: what worries me about him because they're off the chart.

687
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: Because you're thinking about the brownie us and who they

688
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: took the Shelton Well, no, because I think he's better

689
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: than Shelton. I just I think I don't when you

690
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: watch the Washington tape, I just don't always see it.

691
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't always see the effort. I don't always see

692
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: the discipline. I don't always see the technique. But you

693
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: watch that Stanford game. Oh he's terrific stretch. Oh yeah,

694
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: it looks like it looks like King Kong making his

695
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: way through New York City. But when talking about full

696
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: body of work, that's what worries me a little bit.

697
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: There are some inconsistencies there. The first Hurst worry a

698
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: little bit. No, I mean a little bit because he's

699
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: undersized to eighty eight. Yeah, and we'll see what well,

700
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: we'll see him at the Senior we'll see what he's

701
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: the combine, right, but you're hoping he's two ninety five

702
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: is what you're hoping closer at two ninety five. Yeah,

703
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: just shows the ability to put on some weight and

704
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: good weight. And it's kind of disappointed you didn't see him.

705
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: You said it earlier. He's not the Senior Bowl. He

706
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: won't be on that rod it is. You know, Like

707
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: I said, I don't blame him, considering with Wilkins going

708
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: back and I think he's the clear top three technique,

709
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: but it would have been nice to see him go

710
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: up against uh, you know your your guy quisin Berry

711
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: from UCLA, the Center, and some of these other guard

712
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: prospects that will be in mobile. Bill Snyder wants to know.

713
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about Justin Jackson, who is

714
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: a running back from Northwestern. Yeah, Northwestern running back who

715
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: this week is down in Tampa at the East West

716
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: Shrine Game on the third edition of that Shrine game. Yeah,

717
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: pos House, we got there. By the way, Ford, I

718
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: need the top prospect. There's Poonaford uh Texas, who should

719
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: get a call up to the Senior Bowl this week. Yeah,

720
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: he should be. Is that gonna be the first guy

721
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: you recommend? Because yes, let me just give you guys

722
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: a little hint out there. We're in the press box

723
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: one day and and two years ago, two years ago,

724
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: Phil Savage walks in and we're all the scouts are

725
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: sitting there and Dane Dane recommends Savage. Savage. Savage is

726
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: asking for me. I need a defensive line down de tackles.

727
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: We have no one left. Yeah, give me a name.

728
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: And I was at the Shrine game lat the previous

729
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: week and Javon Hargrave Hargraves South Carolina State was outstanding. Yeah,

730
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: first name I thought of, told Phil next thing. Everything know,

731
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: the scouts all go yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a guy, Yeah,

732
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: get him. Yeah. The next day Hartgrave was there and hey,

733
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: he's been a good player for the Steelers. He has

734
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: been a good player for the Sea. But I think

735
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: Puta Ford he's ironically, that's reminds me a lot of

736
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: Javon Hargraves. Yeah, I think he could get that call

737
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: up to the Senior Bowl. But Justin Jackson, Justin Jackson, Yeah,

738
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: he's a good player. I'm looking over my notes. He's

739
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: the school's Alton Lean and Rusher ranks Top ten and

740
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: Big ten history, so the resumes there, a production is there.

741
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: From a skill set perspective, I just think he's very average,

742
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the DAMA doesn't skill set where

743
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: nothing just yeah, he has decent burst, decent vision, the

744
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: patience and decision making, it's all average and there's nothing

745
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: that really stands out about him. Sometimes he's too patient. Uh,

746
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: sometimes he will choose the wrong lane. So with Justin Jackson,

747
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: I think when you're looking at the fifth, six, seventh rounds,

748
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: he's one of the running backs that if you don't

749
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: have one yet, you still need one. Not a bad option.

750
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. This kind of sounds like

751
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: my guy Freeman from Oregon. Am I wrong about him?

752
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: Kind of a just a I don't diame A dozen

753
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: is not a very good right thought. I think he's

754
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: better than that Freeman. But man, he's not exciting. Yeah

755
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: that's what I'm watching that. I'm watching him play. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

756
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm watching him play and I'm going come on, you know,

757
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: light me up because all these running backs they'll light

758
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: you up. Oh yeah, you watch all of you, watch

759
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: these running backs, they will light you up. Okay, last

760
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: question here for you on the Twitter on the twenty

761
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: and thanks for everybody for firing these in. Matt wants

762
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: to know Micah is it Kissinger? Kaiser Kaiser Michael Kay

763
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 1: Michael Kaiser, Michael Kaiser from Virginia acc leading tackler. Why

764
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: no talk on him? Yeah, this dude, he's one of

765
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: the best tacklers in college football. He's led the ACC

766
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: in tackles the last three years. He also won the

767
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: Academic Kaisman Award. So he's a smart guy too, and

768
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: that shows Yeah, Virginia. The biggest issue with Kaiser is

769
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: just the athleticism. He's a two down player. He's not

770
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: a guy that you're going to trust and coverage. But

771
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: as a two down player, as a run defender, he's outstanding,

772
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: very good blitzer downhill, uh the closing burst. His ability

773
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: to his backfield vision to track the ball and be

774
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time is no coincidence.

775
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: He's just a very bright player and he's a decent athlete.

776
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: But you can tell when he asked he's asked to

777
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: cover a running back out of the backfield, it's just

778
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: no contest. And so that's why for me, Kaisers, So

779
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: you have him down because just the two down ability

780
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: really is right exactly. I think I have a fourth

781
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: fifth round. Yeah, I have a fourth fifth round on

782
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: my board. So a good player. It's just you have

783
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: to know what type of role that he is and

784
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: he's not an every down player. Is Jewel a little

785
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: bit that he is? I think Jewels a little that's

786
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: a linebacker. Iowa right, who We've talked about it at

787
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: length before. I think he's just a little bit better player.

788
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: He's more in the second third round race for me. Again,

789
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: not a great athlete. I think he can compensate better

790
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: than Kaiser can with some of the things that he

791
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: does on the field, So Kaiser's definitely a name to know.

792
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: He'll be a guy the Senior Bowl Fund guy. Yeah,

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00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: all right, there you go, thanks for that. That's all good. Okay.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, Dane and I are going to

795
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Speaker 1: On January sixteenth, Dame Burglar put out his very first

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Speaker 1: That was my first one technically, but yeah, this is

845
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Speaker 1: my first one of the draft season. The deadline fro

846
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: under classman was Monday, so waited till we had an

847
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: idea of who would be in this draft. And now

848
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: we know, you know, the Clemson kids, that the events

849
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: of linemen are out, some of the surprises are in,

850
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: and so I'll probably end up doing four or five

851
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: twenty mock drafts. Let me ask you this real quick

852
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: on this too hardest. You had trouble, if I'm not mistaken,

853
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: you had trouble place in the running backs and the draft,

854
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: in't you? And with mock drafts, you never predict trades

855
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: because it's just impossible, you know, it's mock drafts are

856
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: hard enough to trying to predict trades. By the way, folks,

857
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: it's no fun to do a mock draft. No, I

858
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: don't find it. It sounds fun, it starts fun, and

859
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: then by the time you're almost done, it's a labor.

860
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: It's a headache. Yeah. So because you go in with

861
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: players that you want to get Darius guys from LSU.

862
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: I want to get him in that first round because

863
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: I think he's a first round player and I think

864
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: he's a good chance he goes first round. But after

865
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: the Lions that picked twenty twenty one, thirty two, there

866
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: wasn't like a clear avenue to put him. You know,

867
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: a lot of those playoff teams have their running backs

868
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: or you know there's a more pressing need or you

869
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: thought they you know, they make going in different directions.

870
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: So the running backs, besides Barkley. We know Barkley's going

871
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: top seven somewhere, right. Besides Barkley, it's gonna be interesting

872
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: to see where these running backs fall, because we both

873
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: agree Geis carry on Johnson, Ronald Jones. Yeah, I think

874
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: those three players are deserving of first round consideration. Taylor

875
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: Stern asked the question, could we see four running backs

876
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: in this draft? It happened in two thousand and two

877
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, right, and I think based on talent

878
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: we could. But when you look at how things play

879
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: out or the order, I just it was hard to

880
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: I couldn't even fit two in there. Yeah, it's only

881
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: one running back made the mock, but I'd be surprised

882
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: if it ended up like that. Better chance we see

883
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: a trade or something else happened in there where we

884
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: see either at least one other running back. Probably guys

885
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: going the first. Wait, this draft goes for Dane Burgley

886
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: at least starts. Sam Darnold, the quarterback for USC goes

887
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: to the Browns. Giant's take Josh Rosen quarterback UCLA. That's

888
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: probably how we'll be all season long, right one two,

889
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: unless what John Dorsey does, Unless someone makes a splash

890
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins exactly. He's keenum something that The interesting

891
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: one here is Bradley Chubb, the defensive end from North

892
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: Carolina State, goes to the Colts at three. I think

893
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: if you're Chris Ballard GM of the Colts, you're hoping

894
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: the first two picks or quarterbacks because you want somebody

895
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: to come for that pick at three. Yeah. Um, maybe

896
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: because it colds up. Plenty of needs, plenty of holes

897
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: they need to fill. You think they bounce. I think

898
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: that there's they're gonna have a chance to draft the

899
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: best non quarterback in this draft because of quarterbacks go

900
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: one two, Yeah, which very likely could happen. Then they

901
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: have a chance the best draft the best non quarterback.

902
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: We don't know about Andrew Luck, but regardless of Jacoby

903
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: Bursett on the roster, good chance they're not going quarterback

904
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: at three. Sure, So who's the best non quarterback for

905
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: the Colts in their eyes? Could it be sae Quon Barkley.

906
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: Could it be Quentin Nelson helped protect whoever's like quarterback

907
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: Quinn Nelson. Both both those players are going to help

908
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: out the quarterback, whether it's Barkley running the ball, his

909
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: ability pass protecting as a pass catcher or could be

910
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: the guard at another name for me in this mock,

911
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: I want Bradley Chubb, who is arguably the top defensive

912
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: player in this draft. He's not Miles Garrett in terms

913
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: of that style of rusher, but he's very talented, those

914
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: long strides off the edge. He's so good at dealing

915
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: with counters, adjusting his plan mid rush, using power, using quickness. Uh,

916
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: and he just finds ways to get to the pocket.

917
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: He's much player. You've got the player nails, so I think,

918
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: and we don't know, you know exactly what type of

919
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,959
Speaker 1: scheme they're gonna run on defense yet, But with Bradley Chubb,

920
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: I think you're getting an impact pass rusher who whether

921
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: you're running a three, four or fourth three, you're gonna

922
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: make room for him and he instantly helps out defense.

923
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: Browns with the fourth pick, which they got from the

924
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: Houston Texans in the trade for Watson, by right, you're

925
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna you're gonna put another corner in Cleveland. Huh,

926
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: well he can, Fitzpatrick. They need a corner, They need

927
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: a corner, But how many years have they drafted a

928
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: corner that's been just heartbreak. Um, well, I mean justin Gilbert.

929
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: You know Joe Hayden Say Hayden's worked out for Mean's

930
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: probably the best draft first round draft pick they've had,

931
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: not including this past draft. We'll see about Miles Garrett

932
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: and the rest of those guys, but Joe Hayes's probably

933
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: the best draft pick they've had in the last fifteen years.

934
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: It's crazy, and it with all the picks that they've had,

935
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: it is crazy. But I think when you look at

936
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: that pick at four, so if if it plays out

937
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: with two quarterbacks, then defensive En Browley Chubb at the

938
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: first three picks. I've heard from a lot of Browns

939
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: fans that want sa Quon Barkley. Yeah, that's why I

940
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: was going to ask you. That's why I stopped. And

941
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: I get it. Barkeley's an outstanding talent. I think there's

942
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: no question he should be in that conversation. But what

943
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: does that help Sam Darnold. Oh absolutely it does. Yeah,

944
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: And that that would be if I want sa Quon Barkley.

945
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm saying, Yeah, is how much he

946
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: can help the quarterback, how much that he'll take pressure

947
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: off the passing game. But if I'm the Browns and

948
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. I'm John Dorsey. I got Kareem

949
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: Hunt in the third round last year. Yeah, this is

950
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: a deep running back class. Oh, I have talked about that.

951
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: Here you go, picks thirty three and thirty five, Here

952
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: you go. I have a chance to pick up a

953
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: carry On Johnson or Ronald Jones in the early second round.

954
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: It might be just as good, exactly. I like Barkley

955
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: a lot. I think he's the top running back, but

956
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't think there's that huge gap that a lot

957
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: of people see Patrick a better player than Barkley. In

958
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: your top ten, top five, would he be a better player, Um, yeah,

959
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: I think so. I like Barkley a lot, but I

960
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: love Fitzpatrick. You have you have more questions about Barkley,

961
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: could tell more questions about Bay than you do Fitzpatrick.

962
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: I do. And with Barkley there's there's a few things

963
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: that worry me about him, but I think a great player. Again,

964
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: he should be in the conversation number four. But Fitzpatrick,

965
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: whether he's playing outside, corner, inside Nickel, can play safety,

966
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: can do it all. I'm drafting Fitzpatrick in that scenario,

967
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: and I think you have two building blocks on defense

968
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: in the Cleveland with Miles Garrett and then Mica Fitzpatrick.

969
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: Plenty of other solid players are on them. It's solid,

970
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: but those are two building block absolutely. Okay. Then you

971
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: have the Broncos take Josh Allen wide receiver from a

972
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: quarterback from Wyoming. Yeah who number one? He's so wrong

973
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: about that quarterback from me and Lynch. God, I'm just seriously, folks,

974
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 1: I apologize to you in my quarterback evaluations. I really do.

975
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: You're you're Blake Bortles. Guys Blake Bortles in the championship game.

976
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: But it's it's because it's because they took all the

977
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: other guys that I wanted to you know, yeah, the

978
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: Miles Jackson, those guys to the world. In fairness to you, Paxson.

979
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: Lynch has literally played five games in the NFL, and

980
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: they're about to take and you have you have them

981
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: taken a quarterback at five and that's why they're picking

982
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: at five. Yeah, no, you're not a quarterback. Play wasn't

983
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: any good? Yeah, And but again he's played five games.

984
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: And as Denver run out of patience, are they ready

985
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: to move on? Probably? You seem like they have I

986
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: think I think there's a good chance they make a

987
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: run at Kirk Cousins or one of these other guys.

988
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: But if they don't and they need a quarterback, I

989
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: think the connections could be made. Does Josh Allen when

990
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: you think about Elway and he's gonna fall in love?

991
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: Oh sure with this quarterback spinet? Yeah, Denver Broncos they're

992
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: coaching Josh Allen the senior ball. Oh, get ready, you

993
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: can make those connections. Ready, Yeah, it's not a crazy

994
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: connection to make. I could see it happen. But uh, yeah,

995
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: I understand those that are really bullish on Allan. The

996
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: potential is so high, but the floor is so low. Yeah, all,

997
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: here we go. We're gonna kind of get through these. Uh.

998
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: In the last bit, here we got the Jets are

999
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: taking Barkley where anywhere he goes. That's a great pick

1000
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: and maybe jessing the quarterback to look at Baker Mayfield.

1001
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: But at that pick, maybe they just go best best

1002
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: player that impacts their team. Barkley's a he's a big

1003
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: Jets fan growing up, so it's a nice fit. Quentin

1004
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: Nelson to the Buccaneers. I'm already liking the Bucks draft.

1005
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm liking the Bucks drafted seven already. You're gonna say

1006
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: that about whoever drafts Quentin. Yeah, he's one of my

1007
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: favorite players, whether it's two to the Giants or seven

1008
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: to the Bucks. I'm telling you, man, it was one

1009
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: of my keeping eye on two of the Giants. Chicago

1010
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: Bears take Denzel Ward, quarterback Ohio State. I think he's

1011
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: the best corner in this draft. Verminica Overmica, Yeah, I do.

1012
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: I do. The size worries me a little bit, but

1013
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: besides that, Yeah, it's Ohio State. Kids have come in

1014
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: and played the new DBU. Yeah, that's what they do.

1015
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith breaks everybody's heart, goes to the forty nine ers.

1016
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: At nine, flashes of Patrick Willis and Bowman again with

1017
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: Ruben Foster and Roquan Smith. Jeez, that'd be fun to watch.

1018
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Roquan Smith's another really kid, but

1019
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: he might not be for everybody. We talked about that

1020
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: it's right. At ten, the Oakland Raiders take Vita Vea.

1021
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: Now you're really making Cowboy fans mad here. The Raiders

1022
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: need help on on the defensive line. They don't have

1023
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: anybody in the interior defensive line. That's really standing out

1024
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: Dave as a guy that could do that for him

1025
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: at it again, the traits, that's what's going to vault

1026
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: him up draft boards, possibly in a top ten. I

1027
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: wonder if John Gruden is gonna with his influence there

1028
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: with Reggie mackenzie, is he gonna want a draft some

1029
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: type of offensive player. You know, remember he's had that draft.

1030
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: Cadillac Williams, Auburn running back, went real role early one year.

1031
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: They're not paying him one hundred million just to stand there.

1032
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: And and Dane continues, he's he's a way of breaking

1033
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans heart. The Miami Dolphins at eleven. Take Tremaine

1034
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: Edmonds linebacker, Virginia Tech fun linebacker. See now, under this scenario,

1035
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get wiped out. Yeah, exactly. You've made

1036
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: me now a little nervous about what we've talked about.

1037
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: What we talked about. We have four or five players

1038
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: you really want, all of a sudden, gone gone gone,

1039
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: And here we are where we're down to only a

1040
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 1: few players that you have on your your a list

1041
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: of guys that you want. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, man,

1042
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean. You know, you're making me nervous right now,

1043
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: you're making me nervous and like, okay, and then now

1044
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: you really gut punched me because I've thought about Connor

1045
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: Williams right as a potential guard. He gockle, but you

1046
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: got to going to Cincinnati at twelve and he tackle

1047
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: help badly. They could go Orlando Brown, they could go

1048
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, good chance. They look at the top tackle

1049
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: in this draft, whoever they think it is, at that pick.

1050
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: They need to tackle help in the worst way. And

1051
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: then we go down to the thirteenth pick, which be

1052
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. Marcus Davenport, we talked plenty about him.

1053
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 1: That's new. That's a Goody's first pick there. Huh yeah, goodicus.

1054
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: The new general manager for the Green Bay Packers, Ted Thompson,

1055
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: longtime general manager player personnel guy guys started with in

1056
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two. No longer the GM. That's a new

1057
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: new era in Green Bay. So Marcus Davenport, the defenseman

1058
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: outside linebackers still gonna run a three four scheme two,

1059
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: aren't they with the Packers? Yeah? And with Mike Petton

1060
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: coming in, Yeah, it's I don't know. We'll see how

1061
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: they what variation the three four the Petton ran and

1062
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: Cleveland was a little different. So I'm eager to see

1063
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: what Petton's learned from Cleveland. I mean, he was an

1064
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: assistant kind of in Sultan. Yeah, but he learned about

1065
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: a little some four three stuff, right, It's I'm eager

1066
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: to see kind of what he breaks out in Green Bay.

1067
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: But regardless, Davenport three four four three, he's a pass rusher.

1068
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins take Dron Payne, defensive tackle from Alabama. Boy,

1069
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: that's they got two Alabama back years in the first round. Wow,

1070
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: that'd be pretty impressive right there. Arizona Cardinals take a

1071
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: quarterback Baker Mayfield. This is kind of where you hope

1072
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboy fan and you're getting wiped out,

1073
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: that maybe the Baker Mayfield would have been there for you.

1074
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: I love Baker Mayfield, and I just it's hard to

1075
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: get a read on how NFL teams are gonna feel

1076
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: about him, because again, as a as a passer, he's accurate.

1077
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: He anticipates passing windows the way you can manipulate the pocket.

1078
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: Uh you know, alternate his throwing angles, throwing off platform.

1079
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: He's just so instinctive and natural. Added the mobility, the

1080
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: way he moves around in the pocket. You say, that's

1081
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: that's big time right there. But coming from the big twelve,

1082
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: you know, he played behind an offensive line that protected him. Yeah,

1083
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: the size, not necessarily the height, but the fact that

1084
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: he likes to hold the ball and he's going to

1085
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: take some hits as we had the body armor to

1086
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: hold up. We talked about Jeff Garcia. Yeah, I'm proud

1087
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: of you for being a young scout and remembering Jeff

1088
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: Garcia because when I was, when I was like your age, right,

1089
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, coming up, there were guys like Jeff Garcia

1090
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: in this league. Jeff garciaa playing the CFL for yeah,

1091
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: three four years he did. Yeah, that's good year. Baker

1092
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: Mayfield's gonna fascinating. He could go top ten, absolutely, But

1093
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: in this scenario, I've gone fifteen to Arizona. New coaching

1094
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: staff at Arizona two right, right, and new with Carson

1095
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: Palmer retiring, they need to do something at quarterback. Absolutely,

1096
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: they need to Baltimore Ravens at sixteen. Take Calvin Ridley.

1097
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: Now I've thrown my pin across the room. Just wait

1098
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: for the Twitter responses about how this should be the

1099
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: the Cowboys pick, right, they lost that final game to Philadelphia, Right,

1100
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: So Calvin Ridley goes to the Ravens at sixteenth. Bot, Hey,

1101
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: what you've got punched me in this draft? That was

1102
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: one of the last ones in your your five that

1103
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: you really wanted. Absolutely it was Derwin Ja. It is

1104
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: interesting to the Los Angeles Chargers at seventeen, the strong

1105
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: safety from Florida State. There's a guy that everybody kind

1106
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: of likes a little bit. He could go higher just

1107
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: because he's gonna test well, a very good athlete, and

1108
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: you are excited about the future. But because he's far

1109
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: from polished as a prior, he could slip out of

1110
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 1: the top fifteen to this point. Okay. And then Josh Jackson,

1111
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: the cornerback from Iowa. Boy, I like the kid from

1112
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: Central Florida better than Josh Jackson, but we'll see the

1113
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: Seahawks take him at eighteen. Now that's the Cowboys. And

1114
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: we've talked about this at nineteen Maurice Hurst. Well, and

1115
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: now now this is a this is a very legitimate

1116
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: mock draft, Cowboys. This is one that should usually your

1117
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: first mock draft is your best mock draft in my opinion.

1118
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: You know, now you'll figure out medical and all that stuff.

1119
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: For some of these guys criminal background. Some of these

1120
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: guys will fall somebody who knows Larmy Tunsel might show

1121
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: up with a gas mask on. Again, you never know.

1122
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: You never know what's going to happen in this draft.

1123
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: But to me, Dane, this is a very eye opening

1124
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: mock draft for the way it potentially could fall. And

1125
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna and what potentially could be there for you

1126
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: right at nineteen, I'm gonna give you. Okay, I gave

1127
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: them more rese Hurst obviously the Cowboys, but I'm gonna

1128
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: give you five players that are still available right in

1129
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: this mock I want you to tell me who you

1130
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: would take, all right, So there's more Reicehurst, right, there's

1131
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk the wide receiver from Texas A and m

1132
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: Mike Hughes, cornerback from UCF. Love him. Ronnie Harrison the

1133
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: safety from Alabama, not so much. And let's say Mike McGlinchey,

1134
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: the tackle from Notre Dame. So those five players are

1135
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: available in this scenario. See the question, Yeah, who are

1136
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: you if you're if you're the general manager of the Cowboys,

1137
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: I have a feeling of who you're gonna take but

1138
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: who would you go with? The corner really interests me

1139
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: because it would help my you know, in this league,

1140
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: with the way everybody throws the foot ball, give me

1141
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: as many guys that can cover, and you know, I'm

1142
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, give me those guys. But Glinchy is interesting

1143
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: because I think he played guard. He could play guard,

1144
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: but I don't know if he could do it as

1145
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: better as Connor Williams could play guard. Connor Williams just

1146
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: looks more like a guard to meet guard build. But

1147
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: but but yeah, yeah, I know, but you're protecting yourself

1148
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: if something happens to Tyren Smith. True at left tackle, boy,

1149
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: that position held them hostage last year. It gives you

1150
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: some flexibly. God, I'm not gonna be able to answer

1151
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: this question, Kirk, Christian Kirk. And that's what I'm saying,

1152
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: is Christian Kirk boy an explosive? Yeah? But can I can?

1153
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: I can? I look at fifty You know we were

1154
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: talking about we were talking about Dominic his ideal pairing.

1155
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: Did we have receiver at nineteen? I don't think we

1156
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: did unless it was Calvin Ridley. Yeah, unless it was

1157
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley. That's right, man, Kirk. He's not gonna be

1158
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: there for you in the second Oh, he's not um any,

1159
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: But but what what DJ Moore that's gonna be? That's right?

1160
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: Are you gonna if you're gonna gamble, are you gambling

1161
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: on Kirk, which you don't think, or gambling that Moore

1162
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: would be there? Well? And I think that goes back

1163
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: to the original philosophy about taking the best player there

1164
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: or looking at position strength and maybe bypassing wide receiver

1165
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: here even though say Kirk's your best player on the board,

1166
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: because you feel good about the possible wide receiver you

1167
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 1: get in a second round because DJ Moore might be gone. Yeah,

1168
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 1: but you feel okay about Anthony Miller, you feel okay

1169
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: about some of these other receivers. So okay, you're on

1170
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: the clock, time's winding down. Who you're taking at nineteen

1171
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: Maurice Hurst, Ronnie Harrison, McGlinchey, Hughes Work. I've probably taken

1172
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: Hurst the d tackle yea three tackle yeah, or three Tichtie. Yeah,

1173
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: I would as much as I love as much as

1174
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: I love the corner. I understand about McGlinchey, but I

1175
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: think that he could could help you there. I don't

1176
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: have I don't have many questions, and I'd see why

1177
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: you did that too. Just to finish out the draft,

1178
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: Billy Price goes to the Lions at twenty. Buffalo takes

1179
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey, who we talked about. Buffalo pick from Kansas

1180
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: City takes Christian Kirk. Oh, here we go. Now they're

1181
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: starting off, and now I'm about to panic. Here the

1182
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: Rams at