WEBVTT - Lisa Bilyeu: How to Master Your Ego and Build Radical Confidence

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<v Speaker 1>When you've got that voice telling you you're no good.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think you are? And you're not pretty

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<v Speaker 1>and people are going to make fun of you, you

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<v Speaker 1>start to really listen to that voice. When you voice

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<v Speaker 1>your fear, the fear actually ends up being less. Why

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<v Speaker 1>is it that if you name something, you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Better about it, Because most of.

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<v Speaker 1>Us we want to stop feeling the ego. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend it doesn't exist, we want to villainize it.

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<v Speaker 2>But what if it be freaking superpower?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Radley d Wlukiah and on my podcast A Really

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<v Speaker 3>Good Cry, we embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing

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<v Speaker 3>a space for raw, unfiltered conversations that celebrate vulnerability and

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<v Speaker 3>allow you to tune in to learn, connect and find

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<v Speaker 3>comfort together.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Hi, Lisa?

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<v Speaker 2>What I holpi?

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<v Speaker 3>Lisa Billiu is in the building people, and before we

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<v Speaker 3>get started, I need to tell you the story of

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<v Speaker 3>one how we met and two what she represents for

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<v Speaker 3>me in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, thank you for being here, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 4>having me so grateful.

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<v Speaker 3>Lisa is the person who well, let me just start

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<v Speaker 3>off by saying she has a book out called Radical

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<v Speaker 3>Confidence and the reason I'm mentioning this first off is

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<v Speaker 3>because she is somebody who I don't know whether you

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<v Speaker 3>know this. I think I've told this day in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>but inspired and pushed me to actually become more confident

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<v Speaker 3>in my life from the moment that I met her,

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<v Speaker 3>And it was.

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<v Speaker 4>The first podcast. Her podcast was the first podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I ever went on. It's called Women of Impact. And

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<v Speaker 3>when she first asked me to be on it, we

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<v Speaker 3>had become friends. We were meeting up regularly, hanging out,

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<v Speaker 3>and she asked me to come on the podcast. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, why would I come on your podcast?

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<v Speaker 4>Like for what reason?

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<v Speaker 3>What would I talk about? What would we talk about?

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<v Speaker 3>And you said, you know, it's going to be conversational.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just going to have a conversation, just like we're

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<v Speaker 3>having now while we're having coffee. And I remember the

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<v Speaker 3>day of I was honestly going to call her and

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<v Speaker 3>be like, I cannot come. I'm ill, there's something wrong

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<v Speaker 3>with me. There's no way I'm making it to your podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have been from the moment I met you

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<v Speaker 3>such an incredible hype woman, and like you exude did

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<v Speaker 3>so much confidence from the moment I met you that

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<v Speaker 3>it you know how they say, the energy that you.

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<v Speaker 4>Carry you can pour into other people.

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<v Speaker 3>You did that to me, and so somehow from all

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<v Speaker 3>the words of encouragement you gave me, I ended up

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<v Speaker 3>coming onto that podcast. And let me tell you, that

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<v Speaker 3>podcast not only did it open up so much in

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<v Speaker 3>me and gave me the confidence to realize what I

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<v Speaker 3>had within me, the amount of people still to this

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<v Speaker 3>day that come up to me and tell me that

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<v Speaker 3>they cried with me in the podcast, that it helped

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<v Speaker 3>them go through so much of what they were going

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<v Speaker 3>through and gave them hope for the future, purely because

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<v Speaker 3>Lisa believed in me before I believed in myself and

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<v Speaker 3>gave me the platform an opportunity to prove to myself

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<v Speaker 3>that I could do something that I wasn't comfortable doing.

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<v Speaker 4>So thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I mean, here's the thing. I just

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<v Speaker 2>saw you. I know I saw you, and when.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not in that person's head, I don't carry the

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<v Speaker 1>insecurities you carry. So I just see this very bubbly, sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>kind in intellectual, driven, ambitious like friend, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't carry all the insecurities that you carry.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I asked you to come on my show,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course you should come wat. You need to teach you

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<v Speaker 1>other women how you think. And then I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>was when I then saw your insecurities because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually even see it, and you were ming and you

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<v Speaker 1>were r ring and you were asking me a thousand questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, wow, I didn't expect it because

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<v Speaker 1>I just see the shine that you bring into every

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<v Speaker 1>fricking room. And I think, and as a friend, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's the important part, is that it is

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<v Speaker 1>our jobs to highlight the beauty that we see, to

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<v Speaker 1>help that person or our friends out of their negative

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<v Speaker 1>loop that maybe they have an internal loop that they're

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<v Speaker 1>telling themselves then they're going right. So whatever loop you

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<v Speaker 1>were on me just telling you exactly how I felt, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it just like breaks that cycle and then hopefully allows

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<v Speaker 1>you to then rewire. And then obviously you saw the

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<v Speaker 1>knock on effect that other people were receiving your message

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<v Speaker 1>so well, and then hopefully that then became the stepping

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<v Speaker 1>stones to then you building your own confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>It really was, And even just having that conversation, it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't even the knock on effect other people. It was

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<v Speaker 3>the effect that it had of me even opening up

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<v Speaker 3>and having that conversation with you, to have someone who

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<v Speaker 3>was like actively asking me questions that I hadn't even

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<v Speaker 3>thought about my life well, actively listening and you were

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<v Speaker 3>asking me questions within the questions, and I was like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't thought about any of this, but I'm having

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<v Speaker 3>to think of it in this moment and unwrap it

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<v Speaker 3>in this moment. So it was it was basically like

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<v Speaker 3>a therapy session for me. You gave me a free

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<v Speaker 3>therapy session, Thank you. But you have this book out

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<v Speaker 3>called Radical Confidence, and I want to ask start off

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<v Speaker 3>by asking you what do you feel radical confidence means?

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<v Speaker 4>Like what is radical confidence on a day to day basis?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So people used to say that I was confident

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<v Speaker 1>or think that I was confident, and it's like going

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<v Speaker 1>back to that negative voice in your head. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>when you've got that voice telling you you're no good

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<v Speaker 1>and who do you think you are? And you're not

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<v Speaker 1>pretty and people are going to make fun of you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you start to really listen to that voice. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when people saying I was confident, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand what you mean because I don't feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I realized was people saw that I had

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<v Speaker 1>radical confidence, which means that I feel utterly insecure. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what I'm doing, I don't believe in myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a negative voice, but I still take steps

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<v Speaker 1>forward into action, and it's the action piece that turns

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<v Speaker 1>into me getting good and me getting good and competent.

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<v Speaker 1>Is then what leads to me being confident. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was though in just telling people, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel confident, I'll do it anyway, that is the

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<v Speaker 1>worst advice right, Like, it winds me up because when

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<v Speaker 1>people say just do it anyway, you know it's not

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<v Speaker 1>easy just to do it anyway. So for me, it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I need to move forward. I can't stay

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<v Speaker 1>still otherwise I'm not going to build my confidence like

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<v Speaker 1>a muscle. So how do I take action? How do

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<v Speaker 1>I get started? And so to me, it's about a blueprint.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about putting steps together before you even start something

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<v Speaker 1>so that when you get started, you don't fail. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't let that negative voice this persuade you to do

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<v Speaker 1>something else.

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<v Speaker 4>Is putting on your armor before you go on the battlefield.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I just imagine, let's take your podcast for example,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you well enough. It was like, do I

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<v Speaker 2>do it? Do I not? Oh my god? But if

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<v Speaker 2>I get started now, I'm going to be held to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if I signed this contract, does that mean I

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<v Speaker 3>have to commit to like the weekly things?

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<v Speaker 4>What happens if I have nothing to say that week?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Or what if I feel about I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what to do?

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<v Speaker 1>The second though, you go, Okay, there is this fear,

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<v Speaker 1>but what.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I going to call it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you don't hire a team yet, you haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>told anyone, but you're like, what am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>call it?

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<v Speaker 4>If it was to do it, what would I call it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And then the step second step, what would the

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<v Speaker 2>set look like?

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're doing is you're starting to put these

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<v Speaker 1>tiny little steps in in making decisions whether the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>picture isn't so overwhelmed you don't get started in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place, because if I was to sit here and

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<v Speaker 1>go all right, rady, you're going to do and build

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest postcasts in the world, get started right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'd be like, oh god, you would freeze.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I said to you just today on a Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say, what name would.

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<v Speaker 1>You call it, Yeah, and then not you Tuesday, what

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<v Speaker 1>would you just set look like? And then on a Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>who would your first guest be? All of that now

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't become overwhelming. Now, that is how you gain radical

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in order to become confident at the end.

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<v Speaker 4>That's so true. I was just thinking of the way

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<v Speaker 4>that you're saying it.

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<v Speaker 3>And they do say little steps at a time, but

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<v Speaker 3>the way that you've just described, I'm like, yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 3>almost creating it in your imagination before it's happening. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you're almost experiencing it before it's happened, and therefore your

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<v Speaker 3>body and your mind become a little more like you're

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<v Speaker 3>dabbling your toes in it. You're like, Okay, let me

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<v Speaker 3>just test the waters, see how I feel if I

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<v Speaker 3>was to do it. Let me hypothetically create this scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>And then your mind kind of realizes that, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 3>created this scenario and I actually don't feel too weird

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<v Speaker 3>about it, and this name actually feels really great, and

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<v Speaker 3>said that I've created, I actually we like it and

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<v Speaker 3>create excitement rather than the fear. Exactly, it takes over

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<v Speaker 3>the fear that you're feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I interviewed this neurosurgeon, and it basically is neuroplasticity.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what you're doing is your when you voice

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<v Speaker 1>your fear, when you like picture your fear, the fear

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<v Speaker 1>actually ends up being less.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I really like to understand why.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, because I really want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>impact myself in order to achieve or to set a

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<v Speaker 1>goal and then achieve it.

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<v Speaker 2>So why is it that if.

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<v Speaker 1>You name something you feel better about it, because most

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<v Speaker 1>of us in the fear don't bloody want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it, right, So what she explained to me was, look,

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<v Speaker 1>when you label something as fearful and you try to

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<v Speaker 1>forget about you try not to look at it. The

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<v Speaker 1>second happens, all of your anxiety comes to the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you name something, what you're doing is you're

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<v Speaker 1>telling and framing it in your mind like it's normal.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this is why things like manifestation really works,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you don't manifest let's say, for instance, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, all of a sudden, someone comes to you

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, I'm going to offer you a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>the fear of Oh my God. A podcast who's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>listen to?

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<v Speaker 4>It?

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<v Speaker 2>Will all come rushing forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if you've manifested, if you've been thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're telling your body, this isn't fearful.

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<v Speaker 4>You're ready, it's ready. You will correct exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You've prepped yourself for it so that the second then,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've been doing the work, when you eventually then

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcast, the fear on day one won't be

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<v Speaker 1>as extreme because you've done all that neuroplasticity and frame

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding your mind into not seeing that as something fearful

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<v Speaker 1>but seeing it is something exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I remember hearing this code, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying it exactly, but it says the sword of

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge can cut through fear.

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<v Speaker 4>And so what that.

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<v Speaker 3>Means is like, it's exactly what you're saying. When you

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<v Speaker 3>are able to identify it doesn't mean that you know everything,

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<v Speaker 3>but when your body and your mind sees it as

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<v Speaker 3>being familiar, like anything unknown, we create fear around So

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<v Speaker 3>how do we get how do we get around that? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's unf familiar, make it familiar, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>don't you don't feel the fear anymore. And so creating

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<v Speaker 3>the labels or creating that visual in your mind, or

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<v Speaker 3>making something feel more familiar reduce it, or understanding it

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<v Speaker 3>better reduces the fear that you feel from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, and you can take this too, from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, building a podcast to even like religion. Let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, I think that the power of religion really

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<v Speaker 1>does almost make you think about death in a lighthearted way.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you believe that, okay, this isn't just

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<v Speaker 1>one life, that there actually are multiple lives or I

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed this woman that was one hundred and three years old,

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<v Speaker 1>gladdess that I was telling.

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<v Speaker 3>You about amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I said to her, she has a ten year plan

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<v Speaker 1>and she's one hundred and three, and so I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be disrespectful, but I wanted to know the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, in all honesty, how do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a ten year plan? And she was like, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I make it make but I don't. But at least

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm always working towards. And then she says,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when I die, she's like all the people

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<v Speaker 1>that died before me. Because her children, some of her

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<v Speaker 1>children have died, because she's one hundred and three, She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't grieve them not being here because I just

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<v Speaker 1>know that when I die, it's a do you believe so

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to she believes she's gonna have a party.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other side because you know her daughter who

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<v Speaker 1>passed away, her brothers, and so there's no fear. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you just have acknowledged it, you look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>you see the positive side of it instead of the

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<v Speaker 1>negative side. You now literally can eliminate that fear. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you know that, now you can almost use that

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<v Speaker 1>framework in anything you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, absolutely, I think about that with death as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like when I started understanding different spiritual practices

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<v Speaker 3>and what connected to me the most was the soul

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<v Speaker 3>is eternal, and so that changed my whole perception and

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<v Speaker 3>view of fear in this lifetime, of what this physical

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<v Speaker 3>body means, of what it means to live in this body,

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<v Speaker 3>what fear actually means to my body versus my heart

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<v Speaker 3>or my soul. And so whether people believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 3>for me, that reduced the amount of fear that I

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<v Speaker 3>was even feeling about my day to day life, about

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<v Speaker 3>my family, about everything around me, that I was creating

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<v Speaker 3>so much anxiety and fear around me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've heard this recently.

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<v Speaker 1>I just discovered it, and I love talking to you

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<v Speaker 1>about new studies and stuff. So I've been having problems

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<v Speaker 1>with my health. You know, I've been struggling for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. But recently we've identified that it could be

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<v Speaker 1>my liver. Wow, Okay, And what I heard recently is

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<v Speaker 1>the liver is the organ of anger, and that you

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<v Speaker 1>have organs that are related to every emotion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tell me, I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, every emotion.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's this incredible chart, and I think in my

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<v Speaker 3>first episode I talk about this where there's this incredible

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<v Speaker 3>chart where they did heat senses of the body of

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<v Speaker 3>what emotion light what part of your body lights up

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<v Speaker 3>with different emotions. And so I've heard that the liver

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<v Speaker 3>is the organ for anger, but there's also like when

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<v Speaker 3>you feel angry, you know how they say hot headed.

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<v Speaker 3>So apparently the heat rises in the body up till

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<v Speaker 3>the head. So when someone's feeling angry, they did like

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<v Speaker 3>heat senses on people, and the head is the place

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<v Speaker 3>that gets like the hottest during anger. And so in

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<v Speaker 3>different parts of the body, like for women when they're

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<v Speaker 3>feeling really emotional and sad, it's in the pelvis area

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<v Speaker 3>or the hips area. And that's why even in yoga

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<v Speaker 3>when I do my yoga teacher training. The key exercises

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<v Speaker 3>that are recommended for women for emotional release are hip openness,

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<v Speaker 3>because we hold so much and which makes sense because

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<v Speaker 3>you know a lot of women's for women especially, our

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<v Speaker 3>body is prone, especially by a certain age, start to

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<v Speaker 3>start creating certain hormones for giving birth, for menopause, for

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 4>And so all of our hormones lie.

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<v Speaker 3>Within the area, and so apparently our emotional release all

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<v Speaker 3>lies in our hip flexes. And so there's so many

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<v Speaker 3>different parts of our body that one whole different emotions,

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<v Speaker 3>but two whole different types of different types of our traumas,

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<v Speaker 3>and the different energy that we hold in our body

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<v Speaker 3>from every past experience that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>It is fascinating. And I'm reading the book. I read

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<v Speaker 1>it a long time ago, but the body keeps the score.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been recommended that I just restarted it today, in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>because I want to understand this, because again, how do

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<v Speaker 3>we connect the body with our mind and the mind

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<v Speaker 3>with the body.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, you know, I joke, but I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>really serious. I want to live till I'm over one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>But women is something like even though women live longer

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<v Speaker 1>than men, we end up living in worse health twenty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>More than men.

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<v Speaker 1>So even though we live longer, we actually live in

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<v Speaker 1>more poorer health in our life than men do.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>So married men live longer than single men because they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a woman to tell them, don't text and drive,

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<v Speaker 1>go to the doctor when you've got.

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<v Speaker 2>A headache, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But married women live less as not as long as

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<v Speaker 1>single women because we're take caretakers. That is so interesting, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I stat from doctor Amon himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So when I think about our lifespan, when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about how we show up every day, when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about what we're doing people pleasing, what that's doing. Internally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really starting to pay attention. I'm starting to really

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<v Speaker 1>understand like the organs and things like that, and I think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have lung issues, it's a sign of fear

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<v Speaker 1>because again, like your lungs is the thing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Ys like rung titan, like, it's the it's where the

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<v Speaker 3>fight or flight responsib really lies in your breath and

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<v Speaker 3>if you're yeah, it's it's so fascinating. I I was

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about the fact that we were talking about armor earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember the first time I saw you, I

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<v Speaker 3>was just so like enamored by.

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<v Speaker 4>How badazzled you were, Like you were like you were.

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<v Speaker 3>Decked out, you had the change, you had, all the bling,

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<v Speaker 3>you had your.

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<v Speaker 4>Watches and as she has today. But it also like.

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<v Speaker 3>After I met you, I was like this, there was

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<v Speaker 3>something about you that stood out and it was the jewels.

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<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't like what you were in, yes, that

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<v Speaker 3>obviously stands out, but it was like how you were

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<v Speaker 3>carrying yourself with that. And I thought about armor that

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<v Speaker 3>we just spoke about now, and how I felt like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I know you always wear Superwoman somewhere wonder

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<v Speaker 3>a wonder Woman, wonder Woman got we and I think

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<v Speaker 3>you had that from when I first met.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this necklace, yeah, I've had for like seven years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so I remember seeing that and I was like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>she really does have this wonder Woman presence about her,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you walk in the way that you carry yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>what you're wearing, like you've always been very mindful about

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<v Speaker 3>the way that you dress and what you put on

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<v Speaker 3>your body and it and it being a symbol of

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<v Speaker 3>who you are. And so I wanted to ask how

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<v Speaker 3>you've how that's evolved in your life, and whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>like a tooling technique for creating this confidence and how

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<v Speaker 3>how how they marry together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's super deliberate. So I set a goal and

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<v Speaker 1>I think, how do I actually get to it? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Flashing back to me being from North London.

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<v Speaker 1>Greed girl, like at the age of ten, I was

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<v Speaker 1>bully for my looks. I had the unibrow, I had

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<v Speaker 1>the braces that went all the way around the head.

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<v Speaker 1>And how many of us carry the bullying the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of who we are with us for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>our lives. And I realized as I started to get

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<v Speaker 1>into my twenties and my early thirties that the way

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<v Speaker 1>that I was showing up was absolutely dictating the results

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<v Speaker 1>that I was getting in life. And so when I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't achieving something, when I was so fearful over something,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go after it. And so I said, okay, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>just ask yourself what do you actually want? And at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, I was a stay at home wife, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I was supporting Tom, I was cooking for him, I

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<v Speaker 1>was cleaning for him, and I wasn't happy. And at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, I was like, I just want to have

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<v Speaker 1>the courage to tell my husband I'm not happy because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not his fault.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't tell him. So how do we build our

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<v Speaker 2>courage in order to say the hard thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So when you say, Okay, this is what I'm struggling in,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the goal. I just need confidence. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>I just used the word confidence. I just need confident

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to tell him how the hell am

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<v Speaker 1>I going to do it? And so I start to

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<v Speaker 1>just read books about tactics and techniques, and what I

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<v Speaker 1>realized is how you show up will actually absolutely make

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<v Speaker 1>a difference to how you feel. So if you show

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<v Speaker 1>up in your pajamas, you're gonna probably show up soft

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<v Speaker 1>and sweet and puttly right. But if you in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>i've seen your your dress sense, hold me your freaking bocanet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so impressed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've definitely been trying.

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<v Speaker 2>You really have.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when you put on those beautiful, stunning dresses, what

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<v Speaker 1>does that do to your brain?

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<v Speaker 4>So different?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I remember, and I was going to ask you this,

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<v Speaker 3>when you were in that period of your life, were

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<v Speaker 3>you dressing to hide or were you dressing to be seen?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Great question. I used to dress to hide. I then

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<v Speaker 1>started to dress so that I could start to see

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<v Speaker 1>myself because I didn't think of myself as a pretty person.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think of myself as valuable. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>of myself as worthy. I didn't think you know, basically

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<v Speaker 1>fill in the blank. Yeah, And so I started to go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you think about yourself isn't serving what

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<v Speaker 1>you want in life. So with compassion and grace, how

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<v Speaker 1>do I start to actively change the belief I have

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<v Speaker 1>about myself? And so I just was like, Okay, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to try one hundred things and probably ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent of them aren't going to work. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>to give myself the space to fail in a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of things so that I wouldn't quit. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>just started to realize, Okay, well when I dress, if

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<v Speaker 1>I wear pajamas, I actually feel really soft. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel powerful. When I put on my knee high boots,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like a bad ass. So that

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<v Speaker 1>became the catalyst to the idea of dressing. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>just understood habits. Habits take thirty sixty ninety days to adopt,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to wake up tomorrow and think

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I'm a bad ass. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take time. So go all right, Lisa, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to build the habit. How do I build the habit?

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<v Speaker 1>So I keep almost I call it first principles. I

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<v Speaker 1>just keep going back to first print supports. So first

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<v Speaker 1>principle is if I know a habit takes time, If

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I need to use I can use clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>If I know that mirroring, right, you look yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror. If you look at yourself and insult yourself, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens?

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<v Speaker 2>You feel worse?

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought, okay, I'm naturally look in a mirror

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<v Speaker 1>and insult myself all the time. What happens if I

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<v Speaker 1>looked in the mirror and gave myself a compliment? What

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<v Speaker 1>if that's the habit I build? Okay, now I've broken

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<v Speaker 1>it down. And the final piece of first principle is

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<v Speaker 1>what's the activation? What's going to activate switching me from

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<v Speaker 1>negative to positive? So what's the activation that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take me from negative to positive?

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<v Speaker 3>That as activation because usually your default would be most

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<v Speaker 3>of our default is that negative. And so it's activating

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<v Speaker 3>like reactivating yourself, restimulating yourself to realize not to be

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<v Speaker 3>on your default every day. What's that word for it, autopilot? Yeah, autopilot.

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<v Speaker 3>You're reactivating your exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm so used to going on autopilot and insulting myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I had over twenty years of it, So why am

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<v Speaker 2>I going to think.

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<v Speaker 1>That I'm automatically going to change just because I've read

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<v Speaker 1>the book a podcast. I just know that I know

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<v Speaker 1>now I want to change, but I now need to

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<v Speaker 1>actively show up to change it. So I go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I need a habit. I know that mirroring's

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<v Speaker 1>very real, and I know clothes work. How do I

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<v Speaker 1>now use all of this to have a tactic? And

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I was like, let me go online and

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<v Speaker 1>see if there's just like a Wonder Woman logo?

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<v Speaker 2>What's something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>And I found this Wonder Woman necklace and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, what if? And it sounds silly, but it worked.

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<v Speaker 2>What if I put it.

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<v Speaker 1>On and I look in the mirror and every day

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<v Speaker 1>until it becomes habit, I tell myself that I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>badass like Wonder Woman. And I just kept repeating it

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<v Speaker 1>day after day after day, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it for ninety days you do it for one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred days, like you eventually start to go I'm a freaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad like one, Yeah, I really am, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that belief then makes you show up differently. Showing

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<v Speaker 1>up differently makes other people see you differently. Are the

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<v Speaker 1>people seeing you differently? Then reflects back to oh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>People used to think I was a total talk and

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<v Speaker 1>like an idiot, and now people.

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<v Speaker 2>Are saying, you're really confident. Yes, And then that starts

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<v Speaker 2>to then rewire your entire brain.

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<v Speaker 4>And reaffirm what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, And now someone else reaffirming what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>then reaffirms it in and of itself, and now you

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<v Speaker 1>inevitably become confident.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, you really described that process so well,

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<v Speaker 3>so thank you for doing And I think the only

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<v Speaker 3>way you could really describe it is by being someone

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<v Speaker 3>who's gone through it and has actually lived it. I

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<v Speaker 3>had this visual when we were talking, when you were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about you back in the day, thinking how you

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<v Speaker 3>can be abaud us. I was thinking, one, that has

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<v Speaker 3>to be the name of an expert us and two

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<v Speaker 3>it was like a comic book in my mind where

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, Lisa is an incredible artist, what like

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even describe how incredible her are is.

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<v Speaker 4>But I had this vision of you, like writing in your.

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<v Speaker 3>Scrap book how to be a bad Our Step one, And.

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<v Speaker 1>That's literally why I wrote the book Radical Confidence, because

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<v Speaker 1>your confidence won't happen by accident. It has to be

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<v Speaker 1>a deliberate, conscious effort every single day. And the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't bs myself and I call myself on the

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<v Speaker 1>reality of things, and between those two it's allowed me

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<v Speaker 1>to say, does this technique works? And look, this technique

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<v Speaker 1>even though I'm relaying to you, I tried a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>different ones before that that completely failed, but I never

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<v Speaker 1>gave up because I had the eye on that goal

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<v Speaker 1>and then I retroactively work backwards.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like you know, even when you were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about changing the way that you were dressing as

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<v Speaker 3>we just were, I was thinking for so many whenever

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<v Speaker 3>I walk into a room and me and Jay really

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<v Speaker 3>different on this, and I still am working to like

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<v Speaker 3>change my mindset around it. But I'll be like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to be overdressed, and just like, why don't

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<v Speaker 3>you want to be over something? I do not want

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<v Speaker 3>to be overdressed. I'd rather be underdressed and overdressed. That's

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<v Speaker 3>always been my mindset. I would rather be underdressed and

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<v Speaker 3>overdress because I don't want to show up looking like

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<v Speaker 3>I've tried too hard or like I have put in

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<v Speaker 3>so much effort and then I'm like showing up more

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<v Speaker 3>than everybody else. And so my mindset has forever been

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<v Speaker 3>don't ever don't be too overdressed. It's better to be

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<v Speaker 3>underdressed and overdress. His is it's better to be overdressed

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<v Speaker 3>and underdressed, so I look like I'm prepared and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>ready and I've come like having thought about it. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was really thinking about that while you were talking,

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<v Speaker 3>because I was saying, why do I feel like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like why do I always want prefer that? And I

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<v Speaker 3>realized it's probably that feeling of if you're underdressed, people

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<v Speaker 3>won't pay as much attention like you being underdressed, there's

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<v Speaker 3>always gonna be more people overdressed, which means people are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be looking at them more. So if you're underdressed,

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of just blend in and you don't stick out.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was thinking about it with you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you really had to change the way that

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<v Speaker 3>you carried yourself and what you were wearing, so that

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<v Speaker 3>even if you weren't ready to stick out, you can

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<v Speaker 3>help us stick out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh can we talk about this for a second, because

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<v Speaker 1>this is fascinating. We both have insecurities, and yeah, our

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<v Speaker 1>tactics are very different because I'm like Jay out of insecurity.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be like, Okay, just in case, even

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna wear the heels and the thing and

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, because I don't want people to think, oh God,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the state of Lisa. And so yours is

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<v Speaker 1>to not get the attention, and mind's to not get

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<v Speaker 1>the negative attention.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've got the same mindset going in, but our

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<v Speaker 3>tactics are different. And so I'd rather like, if I

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<v Speaker 3>don't feel good about myself, I'll be like, no, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>just wear like the baggy shirt and the bags and

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<v Speaker 3>things I feel the most comfortable in.

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<v Speaker 4>And yours is let me.

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<v Speaker 3>Show up in the things that I maybe don't feel

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable in, but that make me show up as the

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<v Speaker 3>person that I wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna try your technique.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll try yours. We'll report back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so what we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead I'm not just gonna say, but isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>interesting even for anyone, especially women listening right now, of

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<v Speaker 1>how we'll look at our friends, or we look at

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<v Speaker 1>people around us, and we have a whole story in

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<v Speaker 1>our head about how that person feels because I've seen you,

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<v Speaker 1>We've been too many things together, and I've seen you

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<v Speaker 1>really casual, and you know what I tell myself, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I was that confident to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>just roll up in a big baggy sweater and not

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<v Speaker 1>give a shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So when my friends are like, gosh, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>believe you showed up with like hardly any makeup on,

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<v Speaker 3>or you don't get and I'm like, yeah, that's because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to show up like I've shown up.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's but I also now you saying that I've

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<v Speaker 3>changed the way that I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Like dressing and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I realize how much it makes me feel good about

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<v Speaker 3>myself when I'm putting an effort to myself, Like when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm putting an effort on myself, when I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 3>what I can dress myself in and and the way

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<v Speaker 3>that I can change the way that I'm looking in

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<v Speaker 3>certain you know, when I'm going out when I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to parties, whatever it is, it actually is showing more

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<v Speaker 3>care and attention to myself and so it's actually so

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<v Speaker 3>much less about what other people are thinking or seeing

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<v Speaker 3>you as. But it's like, Oh, I'm finally decided that

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<v Speaker 3>I want to pay more attention to myself and that

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be particular and attention to detail about

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<v Speaker 3>the way that I'm looking after myself. And so I've

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<v Speaker 3>now recognize it as a reflection of myself. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>why am I gonna Why is my sweat drawer and

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<v Speaker 3>my sweat area in my cupboard the largest area in

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<v Speaker 3>my thing and hasn't changed since the pandemic, Like something

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<v Speaker 3>has to change.

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<v Speaker 4>And my.

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<v Speaker 3>Assistant Lise bet I told her that at the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of the hours, I really want to like up level

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<v Speaker 3>the way that I'm dressing, like it's not making me happy.

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<v Speaker 3>And so every time I get into sweats and I

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<v Speaker 3>decide to film a video, she's like, I'm just reminding you.

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<v Speaker 3>You told me that you wanted to level up, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just letting you know.

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<v Speaker 4>You're in sweats and I'm okay, fine, I'll go and change.

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<v Speaker 3>But it really does take a change of pattern because

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<v Speaker 3>you get into comfort zone doesn't necessarily and I talk

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<v Speaker 3>about this a lot lately because I've noticed it in myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Being in your comfort zone doesn't necessarily mean you're happy.

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<v Speaker 3>And we know that right, Like comfort zone is sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>a very dangerous place to be in and it can

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<v Speaker 3>actually keep you stagnant, unhappy, but it feels comfortable, and

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, I've started buying new things, trying out new hairstyles,

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<v Speaker 3>trying out new different ways of dressing, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually really like it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it does make you feel so different.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you're telling yourself right that you're worthy enough

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<v Speaker 1>to put yourself first and.

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<v Speaker 3>That in an effort is a good thing. It's not h oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you're being too much or you're showing up. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>weird it's a weird mindset to have, but yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what it was. Like, I don't want to seem like

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<v Speaker 3>I've put in too much effort.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, think about what even just equating that with clothing,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, we don't want to be perceived in a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way, but if we don't really kind of take

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<v Speaker 1>care of ourselves, that we're telling our bodies and ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>that we're not priority.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, imagine what people pleasing is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, you're always trying to please other people and

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<v Speaker 1>you put yourself last. It's like, well, no, wonder we're

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<v Speaker 1>having all these health issues because we've just been taught

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>that you've got to keep showing up.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's selfish.

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<v Speaker 1>If you cook yourself food and don't cook your partner

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<v Speaker 1>food or something like that, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It tells you what you were to eat versus what

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<v Speaker 3>what's good for your health versus what they want to have.

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<v Speaker 3>On that note, we've had this conversation before, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think sometimes, especially for women, there's this really blared line

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<v Speaker 3>between confidence and arrogance and ego and how do you

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<v Speaker 3>differentiate that not in other people, but in yourself when

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<v Speaker 3>you are checking yourself, Because sometimes ego does take over

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<v Speaker 3>and sometimes we can get a little bit arrogant in

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<v Speaker 3>maybe our skills, our appearance, our whatever everybody tells us

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<v Speaker 3>we are good at. Sometimes arrogance can creep in. How

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<v Speaker 3>do you create that difference and how do you ensure

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<v Speaker 3>that it is your confidence and it's not your ego.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a great question, and I think for me,

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<v Speaker 1>arrogance and confidence is really when you're willing to show up,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can show up and feel good about yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Arrogance is that you're trying to make other people smaller

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<v Speaker 1>in order to feel good about yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Great differentiation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so when you're trying to put other people down

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<v Speaker 1>so that you feel great, that's freaking arrogance, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I know more than you do things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But now with ego.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, the funny thing is my ego and

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<v Speaker 1>confidence are actually completely polar opposites.

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<v Speaker 2>And so take band on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So take my show Women of impat Right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to go on camera, and I'm like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get on camera, Like I'm bullied, I was

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<v Speaker 1>teased for my looks. Why would I ever go on camera?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was like, I wanted to do a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to help women. That was like my

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<v Speaker 1>mission statement. So I said to my husband Tom, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Babe, I'm just going to do a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just going to do it on zoom and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna do it with my friends. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was all because I was completely insecure, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to like stretch myself back to the comfort zone. Thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and so my wonderful husband. We've got a commitment to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. We will always repeat back to each other

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<v Speaker 1>what our goals and dreams are, especially moments where we're

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<v Speaker 1>not acting in accordance. And so Tom said to me, Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, and here's the hard truth. You've told

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<v Speaker 1>me you really want to help women.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what I do?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, okay, you've just told me that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do a podcasts because you want to help women.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well I do. And he's like, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to go on set.

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<v Speaker 1>We already have a set bill, We've got six cameras

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<v Speaker 1>because Tom already had his own show, And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you really want to help women, that you would

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<v Speaker 1>do on camera. And I was like, oh, okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>why am I not going on camera? And I was

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<v Speaker 1>like it's because of my ego. M my ego wants

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<v Speaker 1>to protect me. And I think is that we've villainized

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>egos and I've actually repivoted how I see my ego.

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<v Speaker 1>I see my ego as my best friend. She is

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<v Speaker 1>there to tell me the truth. Hey, if you get

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<v Speaker 1>on camera, you're gonna mess up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you get on camera, someone may say something

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<v Speaker 4>about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, now here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We think that is a bad thing, But the truth is,

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<v Speaker 1>you get on camera, someone's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna say something bad about you.

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<v Speaker 1>You get in front of the camera, you're probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>mess up if you've never been on camera before. So

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<v Speaker 1>I realized she was actually instead of thinking of her

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<v Speaker 1>as like this critic, she's actually my coach and she's

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<v Speaker 1>here to help guide me. So a that was one

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<v Speaker 1>way eliminated the negative voice. But then I was just

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<v Speaker 1>very truthful in saying I actually don't have the confidence

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<v Speaker 1>to get on camera, and that's why my ego is

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<v Speaker 1>shouting at me, don't do it. Yes, but in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you show up? And I asked myself, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's like. I want everyone right now to actually ask

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<v Speaker 1>themselves when they've got a goal and they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it with compassion, ask yourself what's more important,

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<v Speaker 1>your mission or your ego, Because in that moment, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the confidence to go on camera. My ego

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want me to go on camera. But my mission

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<v Speaker 1>statement is to help women. So you can see how

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<v Speaker 1>I was utterly in conflict, and so I just had

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with myself. And the second I said

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<v Speaker 1>my mission is more important than my ego, I realized

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<v Speaker 1>I had to get in front of the camera. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when I reimagined that my ego, instead of being the critic,

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<v Speaker 1>was my coach. She was helping me get in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the camera. And that's how I ended up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really starting my show. But it was the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have the confidence. My ego desperately didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>me to get on camera or you know, fill it

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<v Speaker 1>whatever someone wants to do. And it's just like, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to beat that out of ourselves. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>stop feeling the ego. We want to pretend it doesn't exist,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to villainize it. But what if it be

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<v Speaker 1>your freaking superpower? Yeah, and that idea has changed my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And actually, if you think about it, sometimes most of

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<v Speaker 3>the time when we think about insecurities, people see it

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<v Speaker 3>as as almost humility, like, oh, that person doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to do this and doesn't want to do that, and

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<v Speaker 3>that must mean that they.

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<v Speaker 4>Have so much humility.

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<v Speaker 3>But actually often people don't link ego and insecurity together,

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<v Speaker 3>and actually it's so much. Those two are so so

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<v Speaker 3>tied together because our ego creates these ideas in our head.

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<v Speaker 3>And as soon as you think you're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>put in a position where you could be ridiculed, where

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<v Speaker 3>you could be told that you're not as good looking

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<v Speaker 3>as you think you are, that you aren't as intelligent

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<v Speaker 3>as you thought you were, or all the things that

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<v Speaker 3>you may even think about yourself may come to light

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<v Speaker 3>with other people. That is pure ego. And so actually

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<v Speaker 3>showing up for you was counteracting your ego, not showing

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<v Speaker 3>up in a way that shows your egoact.

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<v Speaker 1>Fact, yeah, one thousand percent. And the word ego actually

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<v Speaker 1>comes from the Greek word erron, which means me.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, And I interviewed this psychologist and she

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<v Speaker 1>broke down that when you're a child, and let's say

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<v Speaker 1>your parents are either abusive or arguing alcoholics, Like listen,

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<v Speaker 1>just assume bad upbringing as a kid, you don't look

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<v Speaker 1>at your parents to go they're they're having a hormonal issue.

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>They're having issues. They should get divorced. Like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have logic. You cannot as a child point to your

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<v Speaker 1>parents as the enemy because now, as a child, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a roof over your head and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have food to eat. So as a self protecting mechanism,

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<v Speaker 1>what do children do. They turn on themselves and they

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<v Speaker 1>make it about them, which is why you hear so

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<v Speaker 1>many kids say think that the divorce, the parents getting

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<v Speaker 1>divorced is because of them, because it is actually safer

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<v Speaker 1>for you to say it's your fault than to blame

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<v Speaker 1>your parents, because if your parents aren't there to help you,

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<v Speaker 1>you die. So the ego started as a protective mechanism

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<v Speaker 1>for you to survive. So now that I know that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I like like I said, I just welcome

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<v Speaker 1>it because it is there to help us. And if

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<v Speaker 1>we reframe that, could you imagine the stuff that we

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<v Speaker 1>could do.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, don't me talking about the wanting to look dressfully

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<v Speaker 3>simple and then seem really simple. I realize actually now

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 3>thinking about what you're saying, it actually probably does come

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<v Speaker 3>from so much of a place of ego, in the

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<v Speaker 3>sense that I think having the life, having my life

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<v Speaker 3>having changed so much, like my life has changed so

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<v Speaker 3>much since I lived in Watford, since I was in

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<v Speaker 3>the UK, since I lived in my parents' house, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I think I was very used to and at

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<v Speaker 3>that time in life I was a lot simpler. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really want to. I hadn't come into contact with

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<v Speaker 3>people we're wearing like that as much makeup or like

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 3>dressing in certain ways. And as I've adapted, as I've

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<v Speaker 3>been exposed to more things, as we all do, the

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<v Speaker 3>idea of dressing up or like, you know, dressing in

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<v Speaker 3>a certain way, it makes me think people are going

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<v Speaker 3>to think, oh, maybe she's not as simple anymore, or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe she doesn't like she's you know, the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>people thinking when you change your lifestyle, you change with it,

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<v Speaker 3>but of course you change with it. But I think,

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<v Speaker 3>and now, after reflecting, I'm like, oh, it's probably because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want people to think I've changed, because now

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<v Speaker 3>I live in la and I do all these things

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<v Speaker 3>and I and so I'm like, oh, wow, it actually

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<v Speaker 3>is link The insecurity is somewhat linked to ego. And

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<v Speaker 3>I've been masking it as being like a, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't want to be seen, but actually it's

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't want to be seen in a specific way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So how are you navigating that now?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's interesting that you said, like, it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to change, but you do want to change.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I do want to change.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And what it actually is now the way that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm dealing with is that I have to be honest

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<v Speaker 3>with the way that I actually do want to dress

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 3>and show up and look. And actually showing up in

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<v Speaker 3>the sweats wasn't making me happy, or showing up in

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<v Speaker 3>like my my outfits that I actually felt were very

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<v Speaker 3>simple or the person that I was three years ago

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<v Speaker 3>or five years ago or even yesterday one making me happy.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's either showing up in a way not

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<v Speaker 3>to be seen but being unhappy as me or being okay,

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 3>like we said, whether you're on camera, whether it's people

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 3>from your past or whether it's whatever, saying that you've

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<v Speaker 3>changed and seeing it as like, yeah, I haven't. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a positive thing because I want to be this, this

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:34.399
<v Speaker 3>is who I am now. And so I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>one accepting who you are now, which is what I

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<v Speaker 3>have to do, and two being okay with people misunderstanding

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<v Speaker 3>you and being okay with if they're not ready for FU

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 3>to change doesn't mean you shouldn't change.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you okay that with that? Because I know

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<v Speaker 1>that you're such a people pleasing.

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 3>How am I okay with that because I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to live my life not feeling happy in myself every

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<v Speaker 3>single day. And I've come to terms with the fact

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 3>that you're just constantly misunderstood because people don't know your

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 3>heart and how can they? And I'm like, it's not

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 3>actually their fault, because you only how you bet sometimes

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 3>don't even know the heart of the people you're closest

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 3>to if they don't open up to it. So how

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 3>can I expect strangers to know my like the inside

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:18.479
<v Speaker 3>of my heart?

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<v Speaker 4>How can people?

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 3>How can I expect other people to know my deep

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 3>intentions with why I'm doing something? I can't expect them

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:27.879
<v Speaker 3>to unless I'm sitting there explaining to them every single day.

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 3>And so it's not about whether you're on camera or

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<v Speaker 3>off camera. It's like people will never know your truest,

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 3>deep intentions. You can either spend your life explaining it

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 3>to them or trying to and even then they won't

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 3>understand it. Or you try and refine your intentions, try

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<v Speaker 3>and purify them, try and keep them as good as possible,

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 3>and then how you show up is at least authentic,

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 3>and how people receive you is then not your problem.

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 3>And so I think I've constantly been putting that through

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 3>my mind because it's like, I can either show up

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 3>how I think other people want to see me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be upset and they'll still probably be disappointed because

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<v Speaker 3>I will never make them happy. Or I can start

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 3>just being honest with myself, which means I can be

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more authentic in the way that I

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 3>am to myself and show up to other people, because

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 3>you can always feel when people's energy doesn't match their

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 3>intention or the way that they show up doesn't actually

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 3>match who they are, and so I can either be

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.240
<v Speaker 3>that person where things just quite onn't aligning for myself

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 3>or those other people, or I can just be like,

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 3>you know what, this is who I am. It's a

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 3>bit rough, it's a bit un I don't know what's happening,

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 3>but at least I'm being honest about it, and I'm

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 3>shifting and changing as things are changing and shifting within me.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, and it made me realize and think

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:39.479
<v Speaker 1>about something I don't think I've told you this. Last

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>time we hung out, you broke down integrity to me. Yeah,

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and I can't remember why we were talking about it,

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 1>but it stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>With me to that day.

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 4>Or something rather than that.

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Sami said to me, Yeah, integrity is when your words,

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 3>your actions, your words, your actions, and your thoughts are

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:56.760
<v Speaker 3>in complete alignment.

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And because I'm such a visual person, right, I kind

0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>of picture it like, Okay, it starts with your thoughts,

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>your words, your words go to your hands.

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Your hands create the action.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but so it's really helped me now in the

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:16.240
<v Speaker 1>people please inside of things, because every time someone wants something,

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to make them happy.

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I really want to make them happy.

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Or we all know if you get the text of

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<v Speaker 1>like hey, you want to go out, and you're like,

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I really don't want to go out, but sometimes you're like,

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'll force myself. I don't want to let

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>be left out. I go, okay, do I want to

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>go out?

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Or no?

0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, don't lie and be like I'm sorry, just like

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 1>be honest about why, you know what, I'm really tired.

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>And then the action is I sit down and I'm resting.

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>And that alignment has helped so much, Like it's such

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>a simple equation, if you will, but it's really helped

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>me make sure and since then, I've had tough conversations

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:53.280
<v Speaker 1>with people that I really don't want to have because

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>normally I'd be like, it's fine, I don't yeah, but

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter. But I'm like, well, no, I keep

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it, I keep not saying in alignment with

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>what I'm thinking, And so how do I start to,

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, act in accordance. And that has either really

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>made it much better, like better relationships, closer relationships, or

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 1>it's actually somewhat made things more difficult with people, But

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>it's the truth, and I think that that's more peace

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>worthy then just trying to say a lie.

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 2>To keep the peace.

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<v Speaker 3>I go back to that statement over and over again too,

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 3>because I either have a people pleasing nature to make

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 3>sure other people that are still okay with me and

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 3>don't get upset with me, or I have it because

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 3>it makes me feel good about myself of feeling like

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing something for somebody else and it creates value.

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 3>And so I've had to really differentiate between the two, like,

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 3>am I doing it because I want to be liked?

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 4>That's not a good reason.

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Am I doing it because it makes me feel valuable

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 3>in their life also not a good reason? Or am

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 3>I doing it because it's genuinely what I want to do,

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.319
<v Speaker 3>And I always say, like, you always know when you're

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 3>overextending yourself, when you feel resentment or depletion or the

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 3>need for someone to reciprocate with you, and you're constantly

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.399
<v Speaker 3>thinking about those one of those three. After you give

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 3>too much, you always know you've gone past your ability

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 3>to give and your limits of people pleasing when you

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 3>have a negative, a negative feeling after it, Because if

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 3>you actually give from a when you actually deeply want

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 3>to give, you're never thinking, I wonder when that person's

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna give back to me, I wonder where, like I

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.840
<v Speaker 3>wonder when this will be repaid in my life. I

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 3>give that a person a packet of Chris, I wonder

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 3>when they're going to give me that packet of Chris

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.760
<v Speaker 3>back or chips. You know, that's such a small, small example.

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 3>But when you're not requiring that reciprocation and you're not

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 3>requiring that and you're not feeling those negative or resentful feelings,

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 3>that's when you know you've given to the capacity that

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 3>you have and you haven't given it inauthentically, because giving

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 3>it authentically then it's like why am I giving anyway?

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Because I'm actually not giving? Am I actually giving a

0:42:59.040 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 3>negative part of me.

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>And what's worse is when you give and you're like,

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you pride yourself on the self sacrifice.

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, that's what exactly, Well, oh I've been this is

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 3>me being a really good person even though it's really

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 3>pain even though they don't deserve it.

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, but that then goes like it makes you feel

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:20.959
<v Speaker 1>even prouder. But that's really dangerous again going to your feeding. Yeah,

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and you're telling yourself as well that again you're not

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 1>as worthy or you're not as valuable. And so then

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the other part actually that you were saying about the

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 1>resentment is there was this whole study by done by

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the Gotman Institute that I'm obsessed with. And do you

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 1>know the study, Well, the Gotmans are amazing. So they

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>bring in these couples and they switch the sound off

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.800
<v Speaker 1>in the rooms so they can't hear what the couples

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 1>are saying, and they have someone sit with the couples

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>in the room and they ask them questions and they said,

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>with ninety nine zero percent accuracy, just by the way

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that they were acting towards each other, the physical movements,

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>they could predic with ninety percent accuracy whether they were

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>going to get divorced within the seven years. Yes, And

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you know the thing, they were looking out for contempt

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 1>and resentment. And they said, the second you start to

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:16.320
<v Speaker 1>resent or have contempt for your partner, you're ninety percent

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.760
<v Speaker 1>chance of getting divorced. And they saw contempt and resentment

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>in body language. It was the rolling of the eyes,

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 1>it was the and they would ask the couples like

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:28.879
<v Speaker 1>the opening question was, tell me about how you first

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>met wow, because you'd either go, well, yeah, he chatted me,

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 1>he chatted me up at a bar.

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't you chatted me up? Right, you get that.

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Story, or you'd be like, oh my god, let me

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>tell you he was so sweet. Right, And just by

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.839
<v Speaker 1>people telling their stories will show whether they have contempt.

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Whether they've got contempt will then lead to ninety percent accuracy.

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 1>So you can now imagine obviously that's relationship. But now

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>think about it with friends, think about it with family members.

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 1>How you're starting to feel when you start to build

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:02.800
<v Speaker 1>this contempt or resentment towards them.

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:06.919
<v Speaker 3>Totally it changes your everyday interactions with people. Let's say

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 3>someone comes to you today and they're like, tell me

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.959
<v Speaker 3>what the first step is? What should I do right

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 3>now today to I'm at the lowest point of though,

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to build up my confidence. What

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 3>can I start with today? Like, do you have like

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 3>a step one in your book of where to start.

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 2>So it all has.

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.479
<v Speaker 1>To be with the planning before you even do an action.

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 1>So really you have to understand that confidence is the

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 1>byproduct of taking action. So you cannot get confidence before

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you start.

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.879
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you just can't. Yeah, confidence is built, So now

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 2>think of it.

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>So now imagine I because the analogy is important for

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you to understand, so then know the actions. So for instance,

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>if I would say to you RADI go to the

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>gym and I'm going to give you six weeks to

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 1>curl twenty pounds, you may go up, Okay, cool, I'm

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.359
<v Speaker 1>going to go in. I'm gonna curl every single day,

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to eat this food blah blah blah. And

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have a plan put together. And then at

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the end of the six weeks, hopefully you're going to

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 1>be able to maybe get even close to that. But

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 1>now imagine I go, okay, cool, you've done that. Now

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I want you to go in and bedlift. You have

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.879
<v Speaker 1>to start from scratch again. But people think if you've

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 1>got confidence in one area, it means you've got confidence

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 1>in every area. If you think of it like a muscle.

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Now hopefully you can understand that. You just have to

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 1>identify firstly, what type of confidence muscle you need to

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>start building. So when someone comes, it's like, I don't

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm doing. I don't want to get started.

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I need to build my confidence.

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 2>What do I do? It's like, you have to understand

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 2>what you want confidence in.

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so if you say, okay, I want confidence in

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>public speaking, Okay, now we at least have the framework.

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>You know your end goal, you know exactly what you're

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 2>trying to get to.

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 1>So what I then like to do is I like

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 1>to use equations again because I can get in my

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 1>own way with emotion. So I put everything into like

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 1>mathematical equations, things that I can't. So I go, okay,

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:03.879
<v Speaker 1>if I want to get on stage, put a goal

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 1>in place that you are then working towards every single day.

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>So what does a goal look like? It's a what

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and how much and by when. That's the equation that

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>makes up a goal. So what I want to be

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:19.720
<v Speaker 1>able to go on stand on stage and do a speech.

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, how many? I just want to do one.

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 2>I just want one by when by the end of

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the year.

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now you refined when you say I want confidence,

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? You've refined it down to something

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>very specific.

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that makes so much sense.

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 1>So now you say, by the end of the year,

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I want to do a public speaking gig and I

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 1>want to be on stage.

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Great.

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Now what you do is you take the time when

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 1>you're you're you know, comfortable, maybe you're with your friends,

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and you write out a blueprint a plan. Okay, if

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I've never public spoken before, what step one? Gain the knowledge?

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 1>So step one maybe ask all of your friends who

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:02.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe have done public speaking, ask them a thousand questions,

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:06.280
<v Speaker 1>sit with them, sit by their feet, and be the student. Yes,

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:09.880
<v Speaker 1>once you've done that, what's step two? Maybe you prepare

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 1>your own speech. Okay, you write it out. Step three

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 1>is you film it? Step four is you rewatch it?

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Step five is you rewrite your speech. Now you can

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 1>see I do every freaking tiny little step for the

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>micro moment micro moments, because if you told me go

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:29.839
<v Speaker 1>on stage and speak to a thousand people, I would

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>have a heart attack. But what I do is when

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I wake up in the morning, I look at my

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:36.240
<v Speaker 1>cheek sheet and I go, what did I tell myself

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I was going to do today today? I just said

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:39.959
<v Speaker 1>that I was going to write the speech. I didn't

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>say I was going to perform it. I didn't say

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 1>I was going to film it. I didn't say I

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:44.439
<v Speaker 1>was going to do anything with it. All I said

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:47.000
<v Speaker 1>was I was going to write it. And if you

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:51.480
<v Speaker 1>do that every single day, that then becomes the way

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that you do. You build your confidence, and then you

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 1>get your confidence.

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I cannot tell you how deeply I resonate with that,

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:01.319
<v Speaker 3>because I had this moment of actually going up on

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 3>stage and actually have, like I said yes to doing

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 3>a keynote that I had never done before that I

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 3>had the most amount of fear of.

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:11.240
<v Speaker 4>And every step that you.

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Just said, and I just want to say how much

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 3>this works, because every single step that you just said

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 3>is what I did. I started over a month before

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:20.760
<v Speaker 3>I was going to do it, maybe two months ide eighteen,

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out what I wanted to speak about.

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 3>First of all, I asked Jay, because he's such an

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 3>expert at public speaking, I asked him, what are your tips? Like,

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 3>how do you even form the speech that? I'm like,

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:32.399
<v Speaker 3>how do I even form a keynot?

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:33.400
<v Speaker 4>I didn't even know where to start.

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 3>He gave me his framework, and so I sat down

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 3>and I started writing it, and then I was saying

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 3>it to myself over and over again, and then I

0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.439
<v Speaker 3>decided to do it to the team that was here.

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 3>And I'll be honest, I cried while I was giving

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 3>that job. But because because the discomfort of speaking in

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 3>front of people may like I cry and discomfort like

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 3>that's the way that my body deals with it. It's

0:49:56.200 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 3>suddenly the feeling of such discomfort makes me cry. And

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.759
<v Speaker 3>so I remember sitting in my lounge, my living room,

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.319
<v Speaker 3>and I was sat in front of them saying the thing,

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 3>and I even had my little notes. I was like,

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't feel comfortable doing it without my notes. So

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:12.799
<v Speaker 3>I was doing my notes and I literally broke down

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 3>halfway into tears because I was like the anxiety that

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.239
<v Speaker 3>had build up built up in me to actually say

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 3>it to anybody, to take it from being by myself

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 3>to somebody else was huge. But I made it to

0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 3>the stage. And what I will say is, I was thinking,

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:31.319
<v Speaker 3>while you were saying that all these little things that

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 3>I ended up saying yes to. And I remember thinking,

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:36.479
<v Speaker 3>I've been wanting to build confidence for a long time

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 3>in different areas.

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 4>But You're right.

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Whenever I would say I want to be more confident,

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.000
<v Speaker 3>but be like, what does that mean? Like when you're

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 3>giving yourself such a large goal, It's like, how do

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 3>I know what being confident even means? What does it

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 3>even look like? And now as you're saying that, I'm

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:51.799
<v Speaker 3>reflecting back and I'm like, oh my gosh. I said

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 3>yes and did this process in so many different areas

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 3>of my life, whether it's the podcast and deciding to

0:50:58.120 --> 0:50:59.799
<v Speaker 3>do that, showing up in something that I'm not for

0:50:59.880 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 3>me with the speaking, writing the book, all of these

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:06.279
<v Speaker 3>things have been very different things in different areas, and

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:09.439
<v Speaker 3>I've gone through the process one step at a time

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 3>at time to completion, and I realized those small completions

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 3>has slowly built the confidence to say yes to the

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:20.279
<v Speaker 3>next thing, even if it's not the same thing at all.

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:22.919
<v Speaker 3>It has built the confidence to say yes. So saying

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:25.759
<v Speaker 3>yes to your podcast that how many years ago, what

0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:29.239
<v Speaker 3>three years ago? Years ago, five years ago? I said

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:31.920
<v Speaker 3>yes to your podcast, And then I said yes to

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.319
<v Speaker 3>more podcasts, and then I said yes to writing the

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:37.359
<v Speaker 3>book and all of those small moments. It wasn't at

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 3>the time that I thought, oh, this is building my confidence.

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 3>It was me saying I'm going to complete this thing.

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:45.720
<v Speaker 3>And now I realized all those completions have been little

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:49.760
<v Speaker 3>steps towards saying an easier yes to so many other things.

0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now look at you got your own podcast GOP.

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I know, but that is so important for people to

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 1>hear because it is definitely the pyramid and not the

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>pyramid the yes.

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 2>So people see you on stage, that's the tip. They're like, oh,

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:05.440
<v Speaker 2>look at the iceberg, I see it.

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 1>All that work you've done on Underground is exactly what's

0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>allowed you to then have that peak.

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 3>I'd all say, it doesn't get easier, Like every day

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 3>before I'm coming on, before I'm doing a podcast, I'm like,

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:19.719
<v Speaker 3>at least, but my like my team was as robby, like,

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:21.319
<v Speaker 3>you've done this before. I know, but I'm still really

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:23.640
<v Speaker 3>anxious and I don't know whether I'm asking the right questions.

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 4>And is this is this? Uh? Is this okay?

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 3>The way that I'm saying this, Have I worded it

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.880
<v Speaker 3>in the right way? And so you still will analyze

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 3>yourself in a way that you may not feel the

0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 3>most confident, but the fact that you're still showing up

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:40.880
<v Speaker 3>and the fact that you're still making the effort to

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:43.719
<v Speaker 3>go through the motions like that is in my eyes,

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Like now I think about it, I'm like, that is

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:47.839
<v Speaker 3>the confidence. It's not actually about how other people are

0:52:47.880 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 3>seeing me. It's not actually about how other people are

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:53.960
<v Speaker 3>perceiving what I'm doing, being successful or not successful, because

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 3>every day I'm still in it and being like.

0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 4>Am I doing this okay? Is this right? Is this okay?

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:00.839
<v Speaker 3>And so it's actually so much more about how you

0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 3>are feeling about yourself and what you're saying yes to

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 3>And as soon as you say yes, it actually tells

0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 3>yourself that, oh, I actually believe even if you think

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 3>you don't believe it. Just by saying yes, you're saying

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 3>to yourself, oh, this must mean that you believe in me.

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.279
<v Speaker 3>You believe in me that I can even possibly do it.

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 3>And so the yes makes a difference, even if you

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 3>end up failing, the fact that you even tried and

0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 3>you thought you could do it builds confidence in yourself.

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:25.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:27.719
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing though, I think people think that

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 1>if you fail that you are a failure, and it's

0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>hard to get back up because it actually is right,

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Like everything that we're talking about is like go.

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:37.479
<v Speaker 2>For it, like build your confidence build.

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now imagine you've done all the work and you

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 1>get on stage like you were amazing.

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 4>Like cad that.

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:47.160
<v Speaker 1>But now imagine you actually mess up. Yeah, not like

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:50.239
<v Speaker 1>let the worst right actually trip and four that would

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>be horrifying. But listen, you just mess up your speech completely.

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 2>You say the one.

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Word panel and I did that. I went on a panel,

0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 3>I answered one question and I didn't say anything the

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.000
<v Speaker 3>rest of the time because I compare, letly froze and

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 3>they didn't wvite me back ever again that panel.

0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But you didn't let that hold you back, right, But

0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us do because we're like, that was

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 1>my one chance, and so we seek perfection otherwise we're

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:15.839
<v Speaker 1>not going to get started. And actually, people don't want

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to see you being perfect. And there was this whole

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 1>like study they did where I can't remember what university,

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:24.359
<v Speaker 1>but they hire these two actors or sorry, this one

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 1>actor and she goes into a grocery store, and you know,

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:29.759
<v Speaker 1>in the grocery stores they have those samples. So they're

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:32.920
<v Speaker 1>doing this sample of a blender, and so they do

0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 1>this one test. They have this blender and this woman

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:37.239
<v Speaker 1>is like putting food in it and like showing how

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:37.799
<v Speaker 1>to use it.

0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:39.320
<v Speaker 2>She's look very pretty.

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:41.560
<v Speaker 1>She does it perfectly, and the blender and the drink

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:44.880
<v Speaker 1>is amazing, and she serves it to people watching. The

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:49.120
<v Speaker 1>very next day, the same actress comes back and she's

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 1>doing exactly the same setup, except as she's doing the blender,

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:56.399
<v Speaker 1>she forgets to put forgets right. This is obviously an act.

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 1>She forgets to put the lid on the blender and

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:01.919
<v Speaker 1>she presses the on button and so it splashes all

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 1>over her. Now she's doing this demo. Who do you

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 1>think sold more blenders she did?

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 1>So knowing even that study means that people don't want

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you to be perfect. And there's actually something called like

0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the shoe drop syndrome or something where it's when you

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 1>meet someone for the first time, you're always waiting for

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 1>the shoe to drop, always because no one is perfect.

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 1>So whether you're going for a job interview or a date,

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and what they said is the best thing you can

0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:30.880
<v Speaker 1>do is drop the shoe in the first five minutes

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 1>of the conversation, because what it actually does is it

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:36.600
<v Speaker 1>makes you look trustworthy because now people are like, oh,

0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you're not trying to hide that you're imperfect when we

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.359
<v Speaker 1>all secretly know you, of course are imperfect. Yes, So

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:45.320
<v Speaker 1>like just knowing all of that makes me go okay,

0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:49.200
<v Speaker 1>So if I mess up on stage people actually don't care.

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:52.359
<v Speaker 1>It will actually show that I'm vulnerable and I'm very real.

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:54.840
<v Speaker 1>So I'm now going to tell myself that if I

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 1>mess up, it's actually okay. And then what am I

0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:59.919
<v Speaker 1>going to do when I mess up? Because I don't

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:05.120
<v Speaker 1>seek perfection, I seek progress, So now what's that progression? Okay,

0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 1>if I mess up on stage? My plan was just

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:09.759
<v Speaker 1>laugh yeah, yes, And I did mess up, and I

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 1>just laughed at myself and everyone else laughed and I

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:16.200
<v Speaker 1>moved on. But that's one of those moments knowing thyself

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and knowing that if I fail, I may never go back.

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't afford to never go back. I can't afford

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:23.799
<v Speaker 1>to never not get back up.

0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 4>And they're not going back.

0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:26.959
<v Speaker 3>Reminding yourself that they're not going back is purely because

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:29.840
<v Speaker 3>your ego doesn't want you to fail and like doesn't

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:34.800
<v Speaker 3>like the feeling of not being this great, perfect self

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:38.480
<v Speaker 3>that you've imagined yourself to be. Last question I want

0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:40.680
<v Speaker 3>to ask. I know that there was this part in

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:43.319
<v Speaker 3>your book where you were talking about us expecting people

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 3>to save us, like this idea of this idea of

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 3>constantly waiting to be saved or somebody to save you.

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 3>So for somebody who has who has this idea, nobody

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 3>believes in them, nobody thinks they're going to succeed. The

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:02.840
<v Speaker 3>whole of their external world doesn't believe in them.

0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 4>How one, as.

0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 3>An individual who actually does believe in themselves, how do

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 3>you stop the other people's opinions and voices getting into

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 3>your head and into your own belief? And two, for

0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:20.720
<v Speaker 3>people who like me when I was younger, were constantly

0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 3>used to people saving them and doing the work for them,

0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:26.400
<v Speaker 3>what's your advice for them?

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'm always project your life out if nothing ever changed, Yeah,

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and get a piece of paper. And I always say

0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>like nobs like, don't trick yourself.

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 2>We always trick ourselves. Yeah, don't trick yourself.

0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Right out if nothing changes, what your life will look

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 1>like in a year, woe look like in five years?

0:57:47.280 --> 0:57:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Woa look like in ten years? And I'm forty four.

0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Now, So you imagine I play all this game, all

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the way up until I'm one hundred yea, and I

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:56.840
<v Speaker 1>just go, now what And it's like, wow, Okay, if

0:57:56.880 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I and if I can be very honest, because I

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 1>always like to being very honest with myself. So if

0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I play like, okay, if I always just let my

0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 1>husband take care of me, my mom, my dad, my

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:08.920
<v Speaker 1>older siblings, what happens? Okay, Well, the chances are they

0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 1>going to die before me? Like the statistically I don't

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:15.440
<v Speaker 1>want to think about it, but statistically, so do I

0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 1>want to find myself eight years old and completely helpless

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:20.040
<v Speaker 1>because I've relied on everybody else.

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 2>And here's the thing. Only you can answer those questions.

0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 2>It is your life.

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:26.280
<v Speaker 1>So do not let me dictate, do not anyone else dictate,

0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>but just really play that out, or play out a

0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:32.200
<v Speaker 1>scenario where you're in your car and just stuck on

0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:36.439
<v Speaker 1>a freeway and you're seventy years old and you don't

0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:40.080
<v Speaker 1>know how to take care of yourself. Yeah, like do

0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you want that? And if the answer is no, then amazing.

0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Now you just know that you need to build your

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:46.040
<v Speaker 1>skill sets and that just takes one thing at a

0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:48.920
<v Speaker 1>time and unwiring or letting go of the things that

0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:51.200
<v Speaker 1>people can do to help you. And for me with

0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:53.560
<v Speaker 1>my health, I was looking to my husband to help me,

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to literally save me. I had massive gut issues. You know,

0:58:57.280 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 1>you know that I could barely eat anything I was on.

0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I was eating five ingredients. Ingredients. Yeah, the first time

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I met you had to go to a special restaurant

0:59:07.360 --> 0:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>because I could barely eat. And so knowing that I

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:13.840
<v Speaker 1>can only eat five ingredients, knowing that I was just

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:16.480
<v Speaker 1>very weak, I was turning to Tom for everything. But

0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:19.040
<v Speaker 1>what happens when he's had a bad day, what happens

0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:20.240
<v Speaker 1>when he's stuck in a meeting?

0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 2>And that happened one day.

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I was in a photo shoot and I have massive

0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:27.040
<v Speaker 1>gut like I could barely breathe.

0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I was in so much pain.

0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:30.000
<v Speaker 1>So I excuse myself and I was like, I'm just

0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 1>going to go to the restaurant, because of course, you

0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 1>don't tell people you're in pain.

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Because there's a woman, God forbid.

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I make other people uncomfortable, which now I would just

0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:38.160
<v Speaker 1>tell people, but back then I didn't want to be

0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 1>judged for having pain, So that even sounds ridiculous. I

0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:45.480
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be judged for having pain. That's ridiculous.

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:49.400
<v Speaker 1>So I go upstairs and I fall to the floor,

0:59:49.440 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 1>like literally, I'm clutching my stomach, I fall to the floor.

0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I can barely breathe.

0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:54.800
<v Speaker 1>And in that moment, I'm saying to myself and I

0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:57.400
<v Speaker 1>need my husband. I need my husband. I need him

0:59:57.400 --> 1:00:00.160
<v Speaker 1>to come save me. So I call him and not

1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:02.880
<v Speaker 1>answering his phone, So what do I do? I literally

1:00:02.920 --> 1:00:04.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, well, so what do you do, Lisa? You

1:00:04.440 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 1>want to spend the rest of your time on the cold, dirty,

1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, floor, or do you want to be basically

1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:11.760
<v Speaker 1>be the hero of your own life and get back up?

1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:14.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I told myself, is like, oh, I

1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:18.840
<v Speaker 1>actually don't need my husband. I want him, Yeah, I

1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:21.400
<v Speaker 1>just really want him to come and help, and that's fine, but.

1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't need him.

1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I can get up on my own. And that analogy,

1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I actually got back up on my own. I took

1:00:28.320 --> 1:00:30.400
<v Speaker 1>deep breaths, and I went back to the photo shoot.

1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Was really the first sign that I think we dismissed

1:00:33.280 --> 1:00:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the power that we actually carry. And when I realized

1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:40.400
<v Speaker 1>what that was doing to my mindset in every avenue

1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of my life, I realized, oh.

1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I do turn to people to quote unquote save me.

1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:45.720
<v Speaker 4>Or give your power away?

1:00:45.840 --> 1:00:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I give my power away exactly.

1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:51.120
<v Speaker 1>And so now how do I change that? What do

1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I do so I can become the hero of my

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:56.080
<v Speaker 1>own life? And that's where my tagline came from. It's like,

1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:57.920
<v Speaker 1>be the hero of your own life? Is because I

1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:01.160
<v Speaker 1>realized I was looking outward. I was looking for everyone

1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:03.000
<v Speaker 1>else to save me. And the truth is, when you're

1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:05.160
<v Speaker 1>in a moment where you're on the cold floor and

1:01:05.160 --> 1:01:08.040
<v Speaker 1>there's no one else to save you, what do you do?

1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:10.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, when you said save, I thought, I always

1:01:10.200 --> 1:01:13.240
<v Speaker 3>think about it as giving parts of you away. Whenever

1:01:13.280 --> 1:01:16.240
<v Speaker 3>you do that, because you don't give yourself the opportunity.

1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Just how good you feel when you save someone else

1:01:19.040 --> 1:01:21.880
<v Speaker 3>is how good you feel when you save yourself. And

1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:26.440
<v Speaker 3>so like whenever I you know, I noticed myself constantly

1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:29.840
<v Speaker 3>giving these little powers away to people that I didn't

1:01:29.840 --> 1:01:32.400
<v Speaker 3>have the confidence to keep for myself or didn't didn't

1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:34.680
<v Speaker 3>know how to utilize. And so I'd be like, oh, no,

1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:36.800
<v Speaker 3>you do that for me. Oh no, you're better at

1:01:36.800 --> 1:01:39.640
<v Speaker 3>this than I am, or you explain this, or I

1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:41.400
<v Speaker 3>don't know how to say this in the right way

1:01:41.440 --> 1:01:44.520
<v Speaker 3>about myself. You tell people what I do, the little

1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:46.760
<v Speaker 3>things that I would do, I would just constantly give

1:01:47.360 --> 1:01:49.600
<v Speaker 3>or give that power away to the point where you

1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:52.360
<v Speaker 3>keep giving everything away and you've got nothing left because

1:01:52.400 --> 1:01:55.480
<v Speaker 3>you've you've constantly just been telling other people that, telling

1:01:55.520 --> 1:01:57.640
<v Speaker 3>yourself that other people are better at it than you are.

1:01:57.800 --> 1:01:59.440
<v Speaker 3>I had to start taking that back, not because they

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<v Speaker 3>were asking, I was freely giving it away. And so

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<v Speaker 3>you have to realize that when you're saving other people,

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<v Speaker 3>it feels good, but saving yourself feels it's like nothing else.

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<v Speaker 3>Constantly doing little things where you are helping yourself, you think.

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<v Speaker 4>That it feels good.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we always think, oh, I wish I was

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<v Speaker 3>a baby again where someone was doing everything for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like we always have that feeling of.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know, get carried around, you know, you get

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<v Speaker 3>people make food for you. But actually there's no self,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no choice in that. You actually get tired of

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<v Speaker 3>other having to rely on other people. And I've been

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<v Speaker 3>that person where, like you know, friends or I've helped

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<v Speaker 3>people out in situations where they end up being dependent

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<v Speaker 3>on me in that way, and I've realized that actually

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make them feel good. They don't want to have

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<v Speaker 3>to ask me if it's for bailing them out of something,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's for money, if it's for whatever it is. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>no one wants to actually be saved. They want to

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<v Speaker 3>save themselves. But when you end up asking someone else

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<v Speaker 3>to save you, you actually you don't feel great. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>make you feel good about yourself. You think it's nice

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<v Speaker 3>having someone looking after you until you realize what it

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<v Speaker 3>actually means. If that's happening over and over again, and

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<v Speaker 3>you just feel helpless and you never want to feel helpless,

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<v Speaker 3>that's so true.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the analogy of like, when you help someone,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you feel? Now, imagine how you're making yourself

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<v Speaker 1>feel that's really powerful, and then just thinking through how

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<v Speaker 1>it starts to spread in areas that we don't realize

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<v Speaker 1>right because right now, the example I gave was looking

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<v Speaker 1>to my husband, But the real thing that I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up realizing was I was turning to the doctors to

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<v Speaker 1>save me. I literally was like, give me a pill

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<v Speaker 1>like you give yourself. And that's when I realized you

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<v Speaker 1>can't outsource your health.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't outsource someone else understanding you better than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I literally was turning to doctors being like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with my body instead of sitting still and asking myself,

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<v Speaker 1>where do I feel pain?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What do I need? Like hands on my heart?

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<v Speaker 2>Compassion and what can I give you right now?

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes the answer was like just sit still, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And it's nothing about yeah, stop like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being busy, Like just sit still and then being around

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<v Speaker 1>people that you can open your heart to to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to things and then see what's right for you, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, are you going to get a thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>giving you advice, whether it's about your career, about a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>about your health. Those are probably the three things that

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<v Speaker 1>people always feel like they've got an opinion definitely in

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<v Speaker 1>your life and a vote, And those are the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm like, no, I need to just get still

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<v Speaker 1>enough to figure out what's right with me. And like

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<v Speaker 1>Tom was the same my dad when he met Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm Greek Orthodox and Tom isn't and he's American

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that, my dad was like, no, how

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<v Speaker 1>is he going to support you?

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<v Speaker 2>How is he going you know?

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was my dad that was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make the decision for me, and I had to realize, like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my decision to make, and I'm the one that

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<v Speaker 1>has to live with the consequences on you know whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like, either good or bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But it has to be my decision.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't let someone else make the decision for me,

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<v Speaker 1>because then to your point, just going back to you're

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<v Speaker 1>giving your power away and then what happens when it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work?

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<v Speaker 2>You blame them?

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, it's so true.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, this book, like Radical Confidence, how long did it

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<v Speaker 3>take you to write Holley, Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Been a year.

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<v Speaker 3>It's filled with so much, but essentially it feels like

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<v Speaker 3>it's ten incredible steps to get you from a place

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<v Speaker 3>of not feeling so confident and then feeling like your

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<v Speaker 3>beast self, like feeling like you're wonder woman.

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<v Speaker 4>Wonder woman is right, yeah, a wonder woman.

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<v Speaker 3>And honestly, guys, like I feel like this podcast has

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<v Speaker 3>helped me so much, you mean, just unreflecting and reflecting

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<v Speaker 3>on myself but also understanding areas that I want to

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<v Speaker 3>work on and build confidence. So thank you so much

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<v Speaker 3>for that. Everyone go out and get this boat, because

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<v Speaker 3>it honestly is it's an incredible incredible book, and just

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<v Speaker 3>hearing you speak over the past years on your podcast

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<v Speaker 3>has been really helpful and you've helped me so much

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<v Speaker 3>in my life, so thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 4>I have last a final few questions I ask you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we's like rapid fire, Yeah, a little.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not very good at rapid fire though I wasn't either.

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<v Speaker 2>I I think I heard you on Jay's or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I can't decide what books are you currently reading

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<v Speaker 4>or well?

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<v Speaker 2>I just started The Body Keeps the Score.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, that sounds like a good book. Actually, I need

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<v Speaker 3>to go get that. When was the last time you cried?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I went for like twenty years without crying.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>It stems from a memory of fifteen year old me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the youngest in the family. I went to a

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<v Speaker 1>funeral and every single person in the church was crying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember that moment where I said, well, if

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else is crying, who's going to be strong for them? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the moment that I told myself, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't cry because you'll make other people feel badly.

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<v Speaker 1>So but in my evolution now I'm actually really working

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<v Speaker 1>on like can open that freaking damn. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>last time I cried it was oh god. It literally

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<v Speaker 1>was very recently. Give me a second. I was interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>Mindy Pell's the health doctor, and we were doing an

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<v Speaker 1>IG live Togein and she's helping me with my hormones

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm like changing and aging and my gut and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And on the IG live she turned around and she said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've got problems with your liver. Liver is

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of anger. And so she's like, who you

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<v Speaker 1>have to think about? Who you have to forgive or

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<v Speaker 1>who you need to forgive? And I was like, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>who do I need to forgive? And she goes and Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, and I just fucking broke. I just broke.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like I didn't see it coming. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think about it. And I was like, wow, how

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<v Speaker 1>much how many of us need to actually the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we've done?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you for sharing that. What's a question you like?

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<v Speaker 3>What's a question you don't like being asked?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I have anything because I am so

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<v Speaker 1>aligned with my purpose that if someone asks me a question,

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<v Speaker 1>I truly believe it's because they need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer to help themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good answer. Oh, what we're talking about insecurities

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<v Speaker 4>in this.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to share this, but how have you

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<v Speaker 3>found your insecurities have changed from what was your insecurity

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<v Speaker 3>when you were fifteen? And what would you say? Your

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<v Speaker 3>biggest insecurity right now is okay.

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<v Speaker 1>My insecurity when I was fifteen is I'm completely ugly,

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<v Speaker 1>no one's ever going to like me or love me.

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<v Speaker 1>And my insecurity now is I'm aging and the symptoms

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<v Speaker 1>of aging and perimenopause are becoming very real. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>becoming forgetful. I'm forgetting words like I am. My brain

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<v Speaker 1>function isn't as optimized as it usually is, and because

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<v Speaker 1>I pride myself on my brain, it's like it's really

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<v Speaker 1>denting my confidence. But I'm reminding myself that it is

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<v Speaker 1>a natural thing that every woman goes through. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actively working on it because I will never stop at

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have confidence and so therefore I won't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, thank you, thank you for all those answers. Thank

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<v Speaker 4>you for being here. It was so great and can't

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<v Speaker 4>wait to have you on again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I am so proud and excited and

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<v Speaker 1>honored to be on your show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really.

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<v Speaker 1>Think people need to see your entire life and how

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<v Speaker 1>you've gotten to this point, because they wouldn't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>it was possible, And if they can see you do it,

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<v Speaker 1>then I hopefully it can change their lives and they.

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<v Speaker 4>Can do it too. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know one thing I wanted to add, Actually I

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<v Speaker 3>was going to ask this earlier, but one symptom that

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<v Speaker 3>I've noticed of confidence, which I felt in you, is

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to hype other women up and to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to compliment others so so openly and easily, like

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<v Speaker 3>compliments just flow out of you. And I actually noticed

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<v Speaker 3>like as I was trying to be more confident in myself,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt I was able to do that way like

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<v Speaker 3>much more more easily and actually feel genuine felt like

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to genuinely compliment others when I was feeling

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<v Speaker 3>more confident in myself. And so I'd say I definitely

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<v Speaker 3>saw that in you when I first met you. You

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<v Speaker 3>hype people up so much, and I think confidence, true

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<v Speaker 3>confidence is your ability to be able to flow out

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<v Speaker 3>compliments of others.

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<v Speaker 4>And truly feel it and mean it. So I just

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<v Speaker 4>want to add that because I really think you do

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<v Speaker 4>that so well.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>You