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Speaker 1: through there and said not today, dah. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the twenty litt Huddle Podcast. I am very excited to

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Speaker 1: welcome in the newly re signed defensive tackle Ali McNeil,

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Speaker 1: Aleem big Week, ninety seven million dollars, a four year extension,

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Speaker 1: fifty five million dollars guaranteed. I see the subtle smile there,

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Speaker 1: has it? Because has it come almost a realization yet?

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Speaker 1: That ninety seven million, fifty five guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I ever will. I'm being out as

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Speaker 2: I don't think I ever will. Honestly, I'm spieces. I'm

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Speaker 2: lost for words on it. I don't know what to

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely thankful. All the hall work is paying off

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Speaker 2: and it's going to continue to pay off. Religious getting started.

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Speaker 2: But that's huge, and I appreciate the order. I appreciate everybody, mom, dad,

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Speaker 1: Is it weightlifted off? And I know we talked, you know,

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Speaker 1: But when you get the call, when they say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'd be lying if I said it wasn't

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Speaker 2: how did you not think about that? But I was.

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Speaker 2: I was locked in as could be, and I feel

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Speaker 2: like that's what helped me a lot for this lock

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Speaker 2: these last couple of weeks as well. But I you know,

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Speaker 2: I feel like it is a weightlifted off for sure.

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Speaker 1: For sure. Talk about your performance last week, seven quarterback pressures,

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Speaker 1: two sacks. I mean you were all over the place.

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Speaker 1: What was what was the mindset going into that game?

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Speaker 1: And how do you kind of transfer that action now

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Speaker 2: Mindset was to get off the ball. No no thinking,

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Speaker 2: be my mindset going into every one of these weeks.

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Speaker 2: Just get off the ball, get your hands on people,

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Speaker 2: what my mentality was, was get off the ball and win

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Speaker 1: You guys played such complimentary football all three phases against

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Speaker 1: Dallas blowout when there, but did a little bit of

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Speaker 1: when when ninety seven went down and you kind of

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Speaker 2: Deal with that, that's very tough, especially someone like Hutch

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Speaker 1: Though, how much confidence do you guys have that you

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hundred I believe so more than now than ever.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna have to lean on each other. We're

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Speaker 1: What jumps out Sunday about Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: our planers should always to be an attack and you know,

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Speaker 1: All right, two non football things. First, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: DJ Reader has come to town. There's some other guys

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Speaker 1: In my head? Yes, in my head.

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Speaker 2: But realistically it is probably Chris Smith. Really, yes, Chris

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Speaker 1: Really, do you guys even max out anymore?

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Speaker 1: and how much how much have you ever maxed out

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Speaker 2: Yeah that was in college. So now I don't know,

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Speaker 1: And then ninety seven million dollars. Is that gets you

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Speaker 2: Now, I will see.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have dropped that much

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Speaker 1: How much you guys looking forward to this game? It's

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Speaker 1: obviously a huge one Division matchup, but five and oh,

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Speaker 1: this is a great NFC North five and oh, you

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Speaker 2: We're looking forward to somewhere superstoke for Sunday, super excited.

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Speaker 2: These are the games we live and play for. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a much watch TV type game. It's

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Speaker 1: We'll go good after him. Get your first, give them

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Speaker 1: their first loss and and continue the North. And congratulations

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Speaker 1: on the contract, much deserved. You're one of the core

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Speaker 1: And uh, it's good to see when the organization, you know,

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Speaker 1: that you have and you're playing some pretty good football.

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Speaker 2: Now, thanks, appreciate, appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: You welcome to pre seven of the NFL season. And

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Speaker 1: this is a pretty big one. Jeremy Reisman, Lions beat

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Speaker 3: And you probably knew it was gonna be, you know,

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Speaker 3: the best game in the NFL Week seven, Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 3: five and o versus Detroit Lines four to one. When

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Speaker 4: Especially when JJ McCarthy goes out for the season, I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: the Vikings are gonna bounce back. They're gonna they're gonna

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Speaker 1: It's and and look, you love games like this, right,

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Speaker 4: I'm one hundred percent with you. If this team truly

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Speaker 1: All right, So we're here for three keys to the game.

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Speaker 1: So it's every week, it's it's kind of the three

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Speaker 1: big matchups, the three big keys, And you look at

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Speaker 1: the first and foremost with this one, with how good

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Speaker 1: Minnesota's defense is playing right now, I think handling that

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Speaker 4: I imagine every offensive coordinator facing the Vikings is staying

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Speaker 4: And luckily, you know, this isn't the first time the

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Speaker 4: And you know, they really actually did a pretty good

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast, and

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Speaker 1: I am very happy to welcome in Kevin Seffert. He's

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Speaker 1: So you know, admit it, you know when the schedule

436
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Speaker 1: came out, when the season started, you knew that Week

437
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Speaker 1: seven Detroit Minnesota was going to be the best football

438
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Speaker 1: game in the NFL that.

439
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Speaker 5: Week, right, absolutely, absolutely, there was no doubt about it.

440
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Speaker 5: I knew that was gonna be a fun game. I

441
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Speaker 5: did not think that the Vikings would be. I thought

442
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Speaker 5: it was going to be part of a very difficult

443
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Speaker 5: opening schedule for the Vikings that was going to leave

444
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Speaker 5: them in a tough spot by the time they got

445
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Speaker 5: to this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not. I mean, it's five and zero,

447
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Speaker 1: They've been playing great, They're coming off their bye week,

448
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Speaker 1: and this sets up a huge matchup. You know this week.

449
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Speaker 1: Obviously it's a division game, it's four first place in

450
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Speaker 1: the division. Though we're talking week seventeen. There's a lot

451
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Speaker 1: of football left. But really, Kevin, when you watch this

452
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Speaker 1: team over the first five games, what's really been the

453
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Speaker 1: biggest catalyst for you for their success and then their

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Speaker 1: five and oh start?

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Speaker 5: Well, I know that sam Donold has gotten a lot

456
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Speaker 5: of attention and he's absolutely played probably the best football

457
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Speaker 5: of his NFL career. But the Vikings defense has just

458
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Speaker 5: not only been one of the best, not only been

459
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Speaker 5: the best defense in the NFL this year, it's had

460
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Speaker 5: one of the best five game starts.

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Speaker 6: Really in the past forty to fifty years.

462
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Speaker 5: If you go back and look at some of the

463
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Speaker 5: advanced analytics DVOA and some of those other types of

464
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Speaker 5: ways of comparing historical periods, they are just not only

465
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Speaker 5: are they playing lights out and really confusing quarterbacks, but

466
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Speaker 5: they've created a ton of turnovers, many of them early

467
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Speaker 5: in games. And when you look at the Vikings getting

468
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Speaker 5: to these big leads, whether it was against San Francisco

469
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Speaker 5: or Houston or Green Bay or against the Jets, a

470
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Speaker 5: lot of it is because the defense either scored a

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Speaker 5: touchdown themselves or set the Vikings offense up in great

472
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Speaker 5: field position to score early touchdowns and really take control

473
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Speaker 5: of this game. So Brian Flores has really had these

474
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Speaker 5: guys playing on another level than they did last year.

475
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Speaker 6: They were pretty good for a good portion of last year,

476
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Speaker 6: but they have gotten.

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Speaker 5: To five and zero on the strength number one of

478
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Speaker 5: the defense, and it's one of the best five game

479
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Speaker 5: stretches for any defense that I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can really see what a difference being in

481
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Speaker 1: the second year of that scheme makes. And then you

482
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Speaker 1: add guys like Greenard Van Ginkle, you know, guys like

483
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Speaker 1: that that just fit what they do versatile, you know,

484
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Speaker 1: can blitz but also play coverage. It just seems like

485
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Speaker 1: everything fits for them right now. And and Kevin, to

486
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Speaker 1: your point, I mean, top three in points allowed, twenty sacks,

487
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Speaker 1: eleven interceptions, number two against the run. So it's not

488
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Speaker 1: like it's one thing. It's like they are good across

489
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Speaker 1: the board defensively. And how fun is that matchup going

490
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Speaker 1: to be this week against a Detroit Lions team that

491
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Speaker 1: comes in having scored eighty nine points in their last

492
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Speaker 1: two games, both wins against Seattle and Dallas, and probably

493
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Speaker 1: playing some of the best football in the league right

494
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Speaker 1: now offensively? What a matchup between those two? It almost

495
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Speaker 1: feels like the part of this matchup is Ben Johnson

496
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Speaker 1: versus Brian Flores and they won't even be on the field.

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Speaker 5: No, and so, and that's interesting you say that because

498
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Speaker 5: Brian Flores was asked this week about like, how do

499
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Speaker 5: you prepare for this Lion's offense? And he said, like,

500
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Speaker 5: the really hard and difficult part is that almost every

501
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Speaker 5: week when he looks at an opposing offense, there's something

502
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Speaker 5: in there that is a weakness or maybe not something

503
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Speaker 5: that a team is going to emphasize. And that's where

504
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Speaker 5: they're really going to attack it. And it could be

505
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Speaker 5: something as small as the left guard's pass protection, or

506
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Speaker 5: it could be something as big as a quarterback not

507
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Speaker 5: being able to read coverages. So he always has found

508
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Speaker 5: something with most with every opponent. He said that that

509
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Speaker 5: they can try to at least try to exploit and

510
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Speaker 5: have a plan for exploiting. And he said that for

511
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Speaker 5: the and maybe he was just saying this because they're

512
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Speaker 5: playing the lines this week. He said this week there

513
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Speaker 5: really isn't like something certainly isn't anything obvious and really

514
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Speaker 5: hasn't been something even on a minor scale that he

515
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Speaker 5: feels like they can definitely exploit. So you know, I

516
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Speaker 5: think he knows and everyone knows that there they won't

517
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Speaker 5: win if they can't slow down to the lions running

518
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Speaker 5: attack and make like, if you're going to make somebody

519
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Speaker 5: one dimensional, you want to make them one dimensional as.

520
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Speaker 6: A passing offense.

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Speaker 5: And that's not to criticize or downgrade Jared Goff and

522
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Speaker 5: the group and what they've done, but like, if you

523
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Speaker 5: can't stop the run, you just have no chance to win.

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Speaker 5: And that's so I think that that's where their focus

525
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Speaker 5: will be.

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Speaker 1: It's not a.

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Speaker 6: Weakness that they can exploit.

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Speaker 5: But that's the focus I think for these guys and

529
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Speaker 5: then to take their chances and coverage in the back end.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota has early by a week, just like Detroit. Did

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Speaker 1: you know Week five, Detroit came out of that, you know,

532
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Speaker 1: pretty healthy. Obviously had had some the devastating injury to

533
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Speaker 1: to Hutchinson last week. But injury wise, from the Minnesota side,

534
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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, I know he was kind of weak to

535
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Speaker 1: week last week and he updates on him and Dalton

536
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Speaker 1: Risner looks like he could be coming back. How is

537
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Speaker 1: Minnesota coming out of the buy injury wise?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Aaron Jones one is the big one. He

539
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Speaker 5: as you said, was they decided he was weak to

540
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Speaker 5: week coming out of that game in London where he

541
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Speaker 5: had a hip injury. But he they had a sort

542
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Speaker 5: of a walk through speed practice on Monday and he

543
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Speaker 5: was out there for that. They didn't there was no

544
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Speaker 5: contact and it was only about an hour, but it

545
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Speaker 5: was interesting that he was out there, and so I

546
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Speaker 5: think they'll take it all the way to the weekend.

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Speaker 5: You know, they have historically been I don't want to

548
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Speaker 5: say conservative, but they've been careful, especially with prominent players

549
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Speaker 5: that have an injury that might be considered relatively minor

550
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Speaker 5: but could become a chronic thing if they don't manage

551
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Speaker 5: it well in the moment. And so if you just

552
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Speaker 5: look at their history in those situations, like I think

553
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Speaker 5: that they might be inclined to be careful with Aaron

554
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Speaker 5: Jones this week. It's a huge game, as you outlined,

555
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Speaker 5: but if it meant that he was going to be

556
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Speaker 5: more available over the course of the second half of

557
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Speaker 5: the season, if they held him out, I think they

558
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Speaker 5: probably choose that. So we'll see if that's where they

559
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Speaker 5: end up leaning.

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Speaker 1: T J.

561
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Speaker 5: Hopkinson, who Lions fans know very well, is still in

562
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Speaker 5: his pup window. He is in theory eligible to come

563
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Speaker 5: off of it and play against the Lions Sunday. I

564
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Speaker 5: doubt that's going to happen. They have a quick turnaround

565
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Speaker 5: next week to on a Thursday night game at the Rams,

566
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Speaker 5: and that is a more likely spot for him, and

567
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Speaker 5: it could even be the week after that. But from

568
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Speaker 5: a health perspective, those are the primary guys you said.

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Speaker 5: You also mentioned Dalton Reisner. Yeah, he's he's full could

570
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Speaker 5: probably be full go this week during his pupp or

571
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Speaker 5: ir window. If he plays, it'll be to displace their

572
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Speaker 5: current right guard at Ingram, who hasn't really played well

573
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Speaker 5: at times this year. But we'll see if they are

574
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Speaker 5: ready to pull the trigger on that move quite yet.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the defense to begin and

576
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Speaker 1: one of the things when you look at Kevin is

577
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Speaker 1: just the blitz and how effective they are at blitzing.

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Speaker 1: I just looked at the numbers. I think it was

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Speaker 1: one hundred and six blitzes for Brian flores In in

580
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Speaker 1: five games, and the next on the list was Denver

581
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Speaker 1: who has ninety four and they've played an extra game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they really come after you, but there's one

583
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Speaker 1: thing to blitz and just kind of throw your head

584
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Speaker 1: at the wall. But they're really effective when they do

585
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Speaker 1: it when you watch them. Why is that blitz so

586
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Speaker 1: effective with Minnesota?

587
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Speaker 5: In a lot of ways, it's when they're using it.

588
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Speaker 5: There's other reasons as well, but they are heavy. If

589
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Speaker 5: you break it down by the downs, most of I

590
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Speaker 5: think they're blitz rates on first and second down or

591
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Speaker 5: even higher than their total, and then it comes way

592
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Speaker 5: down on third down. So they're in the obvious quote

593
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Speaker 5: unquote passing downs. They're actually playing more coverage. And what

594
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Speaker 5: they do is they take their entire defensive line off

595
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Speaker 5: the field because Brian Flores is a madman, and they

596
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Speaker 5: use four edge rushers as their four defensive line. And

597
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Speaker 5: there's a linebacker they signed in free agency name Jihad Ward.

598
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Speaker 5: Was a big linebacker. He's like two hundred and eighty pounds,

599
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Speaker 5: but he is a linebacker, and they put him basically

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Speaker 5: at nose tackle, and then they have three of their

601
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Speaker 5: other edge rushers and so that's sort of their third

602
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Speaker 5: down pass rush set, and they play coverage behind that

603
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Speaker 5: more often than not. So there's a lot of reasons

604
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Speaker 5: why they're good at at the blitzing because they also

605
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Speaker 5: have a lot more I think it where the next

606
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Speaker 5: Gen stats have them at is about fifty percent of

607
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Speaker 5: their snaps at the snap, at least one member of

608
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Speaker 5: who of their defense that's lined up on the defensive

609
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Speaker 5: line drops back, and that really can wreak havoc even

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Speaker 5: on the best of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: Brock Purdy had a hard time with that.

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Speaker 5: C J. Stroud had a hard time with that because

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Speaker 5: you get the quarterback gets the line of scrimmage and

614
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Speaker 5: they see who's there, and at some point they have

615
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Speaker 5: to make a decision about what they think is coming

616
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Speaker 5: in terms of pass rush, in terms of coverage and

617
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Speaker 5: set the line and all that sort of thing, and

618
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Speaker 5: then boom at the snap, somebody drops back or somebody

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Speaker 5: replaces him, and that's not you didn't account for yeah,

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Speaker 5: and that's or you accounted for him and you didn't

621
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Speaker 5: need to. And so you thought he was blitzing, and

622
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Speaker 5: you have a guy who's set up to block him,

623
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Speaker 5: but he's not there. And then you're sped up and

624
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Speaker 5: you think you have to throw and the guy that

625
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Speaker 5: would be your read is open.

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Speaker 6: But because you're so.

627
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Speaker 5: Discombobulated, this happened to block Purty a lot. You just

628
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Speaker 5: don't get You're off your on your timing in rhythm.

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Speaker 5: And so those are not things that only the Vikings

630
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Speaker 5: do or only Brian Flores do, but the frequency that

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Speaker 5: they do it, and the variety in which it could

632
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Speaker 5: be any of those six or seven guys or even

633
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Speaker 5: eight guys that might at one point be on the

634
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Speaker 5: line of scrimmage prior to the snap just has really

635
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 5: made their their their blitzing effective, the timing of their blitzes,

636
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: and really left quarterbacks, especially early in games, before they

637
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Speaker 5: can kind of get their feet underneath them. Really at

638
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Speaker 5: a loss to do the things that modern NFL quarterbacks

639
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Speaker 5: have to do in terms of reading coverage and setting

640
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Speaker 5: out protections.

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Speaker 1: A couple more for you, Kevin Again, I'm talking with

642
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Speaker 1: Kevin Seffert does a great job covering everything Minnesota Vikings

643
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Speaker 1: for ESPN. Maybe who's a new player? Well, you know,

644
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: these are obviously teams that are very familiar with each other,

645
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: being within the division, playing twice a year. But is

646
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Speaker 1: there a new guy maybe Lions fans don't know yet

647
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: who you expect to impact the game on Sunday or

648
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: who Lions fans will will will know after Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Well, a player that not even a lot of Vikings

650
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 5: fans knew prior to him signing. And you mentioned him

651
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Speaker 5: at the beginning with Andrew van Ginkel, and he's potentially

652
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Speaker 5: in the running for defensive Player of the Year at

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Speaker 5: this point.

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Speaker 2: He's a He was.

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Speaker 5: Drafted in Miami when Florest was in Miami, so they

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Speaker 5: have that connection. And he saw something in him when

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Speaker 5: in college and they drafted him the fifth round. And

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Speaker 5: he's in theory an edge rusher, but he just basically

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Speaker 5: plays everywhere unbelievable football iq and instincts, Like he's already

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Speaker 5: returned two interceptions for touchdowns and in both In one

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Speaker 5: of the cases he just stepped back on a screen

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Speaker 5: pass and saw it coming and reached up and grabbed it.

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Speaker 5: That was against the Giants and then against the Jets

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Speaker 5: and Aaron Rodgers, he just kind of sense that a

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Speaker 5: play was coming into a certain spot and moved himself there.

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers had no like he has seen a lot

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Speaker 5: of coverages and he's seen a lot of different things

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Speaker 5: in his career, did not expect him to be there,

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Speaker 5: and and and uh Ben Ginkle intercepted it.

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Speaker 6: And had and ran it back for a touchdown.

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Speaker 5: So he's already had two pick six's as a as

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Speaker 5: an edge rusher, so very unique set of skills. He's

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Speaker 5: got a few three sacks, I think, and not necessarily

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Speaker 5: on your classic speed rush around the edge, but just

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Speaker 5: like getting himself into the position where a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Would think that he has some space. Just so.

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Speaker 5: If it continues the way it has started, like at

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Speaker 5: some point the Lions fans will see him make a

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Speaker 5: play and be like, how did that even happen? Like

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Speaker 5: that was you never see that happen in football, and

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Speaker 5: so he's been just a really fun guy to watch

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Speaker 5: play and to see sort of open doors that you

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Speaker 5: didn't think were open.

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Speaker 1: And he's right up there with Abs AZALONEI for best

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Speaker 1: hair in the NFL. Is he a contender?

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Speaker 6: I think, well, it's certainly longer.

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Speaker 5: I think I haven't seen Alex in while, but I

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Speaker 5: think it mean it's long, Like he asked, like, I'd

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Speaker 5: be curious what his helmet size would be if he

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Speaker 5: didn't have to, you know, account for all that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Last one, keV, what's the biggest key in

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Speaker 1: your opinion for the Vikings on Sunday? The Vikings walk

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Speaker 1: out of walk out of US bank six and zero

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Speaker 1: in command of the division.

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Speaker 6: If they do what win the turnover battle?

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Speaker 5: Since ke O'Connell and this is not this is true

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Speaker 5: for many teams, but since Kevin O'Connell started here, when

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Speaker 5: they win the turnover battle there I think twenty and

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Speaker 5: zero and so like, which speaks to some of their

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Speaker 5: losses being pretty self inflicted. Why when they commit a

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Speaker 5: lot of turnovers, So if the Lions defense gets after

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Speaker 5: them and forces Sam Darnold into some interceptions or pulls

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Speaker 5: a few balls away and puts them on the defensive

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Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball. Then that's a pretty

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Speaker 5: good formula for the Lions. But if the Vikings can

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Speaker 5: just I mean, they're gonna make mistakes, but if they

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Speaker 5: can avoid the turnover kind of mistakes, that's been a

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Speaker 5: lights out formula for them since so Connell got here.

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Speaker 1: Well, it should be a fun one. Who knew? Week

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Speaker 1: seven five in old Minnesota Vikings four and one Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: It should be a great one Sunday at US Bank, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking the time. Always enjoy it,

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Speaker 1: my friend, and we will see you in Minneapolis this weekend.

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Speaker 6: Sounds good. Safe travels, Tim,