Speaker 1: Forever. Look mad oh, I see you? Why why? And
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yeah? Goodness? And
Speaker 1: I don't think either of us know what this episode
Speaker 1: is going to be, and that's sort of the beauty
Speaker 1: of it. Um. Yeah, this this is going to be
Speaker 1: a fun little meditation, exploration, rumination, a jaunt, a jaunt.
Speaker 1: This is the first episode that you and I have done,
Speaker 1: just us and a lot since the beginning, since the
Speaker 1: first step. If you got back and listen to that,
Speaker 1: I haven't done it every Now, every once a year
Speaker 1: I'll go back and listen to the first step just
Speaker 1: to like here myself, like I'm in a fully different octave.
Speaker 1: Like the years have like withered me. I think. Do
Speaker 1: you remember the segment that we used to do, which
Speaker 1: was Culture of the Week? Culture of the Week, and
Speaker 1: our bit was that it was always Disney. We were like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a bit called a segment called Culture
Speaker 1: of the Week, and it's every week it's going to
Speaker 1: be something about Disney World, the theme park. The winner
Speaker 1: of Culture the Week is Disney. Again. There, it didn't last.
Speaker 1: It didn't last. But I mean, I've got to say,
Speaker 1: not much has changed, No, not really. Besides the doing
Speaker 1: the topical episodes of it all, like the first episode
Speaker 1: is called the Grammys, like our pilot episode is called
Speaker 1: and I do kind of love the Hathic. It's great,
Speaker 1: you know. And this is just me like being one
Speaker 1: of those damn trollmongers where I just read the reviews.
Speaker 1: We both we've both been very open. I read them
Speaker 1: a lot more than I let on absolutely same and
Speaker 1: one of them was really nice, uh where they said
Speaker 1: if you listen to them in reverse order, you kind
Speaker 1: of like you're able to track how like the friendship
Speaker 1: grows and they challenge each other. And then I saw
Speaker 1: that and that made me feel really nice. Suffice it
Speaker 1: to say, you guys, um, don't panic. Don't panic. Um.
Speaker 1: There's just gonna be a change with the podcast going forward,
Speaker 1: and it is a little hard to talk about, but
Speaker 1: just because it is going to be a major change.
Speaker 1: But Last Culture Assis is going to be continuing on
Speaker 1: another network. Yes, we don't know which network, um, but
Speaker 1: right now we have just figured out that we just
Speaker 1: want some whatever, not to use this word that's over used,
Speaker 1: but just space, just space to figure out what makes
Speaker 1: the most sense for us in terms of how we
Speaker 1: operate and how Matt and I record episodes on different
Speaker 1: coasts or when we're on the same coast, and how
Speaker 1: that all sort of gets organized just operationally. You guys,
Speaker 1: so much has changed and so much changed about Bowen
Speaker 1: and Ice day to day, honestly in ways that have
Speaker 1: I think really blown my mind, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I don't I think that, you know, four years.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I get emotional as I talk about it. Yeah, yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: I think it's just oh my god, I can't even
Speaker 1: believe I'm like this. No. I think the reason it
Speaker 1: matters so much is because, you know, Joe and Alex
Speaker 1: are dear friends, and we really did just start this
Speaker 1: out for fun, I know, and so it's you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know why it feels like a bigger deal
Speaker 1: than it has to be, but it is a big deal.
Speaker 1: I think it's to scale. I think it's um this
Speaker 1: this might be very self indulgent, but I feel like
Speaker 1: the relationship that you and I have with Joe and
Speaker 1: Alex and Emma, um is very very very very very
Speaker 1: special just because we sort of went through this crucible
Speaker 1: together well whatever of just like truly building this from
Speaker 1: the ground up and acknowledging the fact that none of
Speaker 1: this would have been possible without them, without Network, and
Speaker 1: seeing forever Dog grows at Network and like acquire all
Speaker 1: this talent and work on all these amazing projects is
Speaker 1: so so, so, so so beautiful. Yeah, it's really just
Speaker 1: very gratifying to know that, you know, we we talked
Speaker 1: about it sometimes on the pot, but we truly started this.
Speaker 1: Like in um room um and and Alex would put
Speaker 1: the mattress up in the window space so that we
Speaker 1: wouldn't have any sound coming in. This is before this,
Speaker 1: This is like I think two years before you were
Speaker 1: even here, um. So and I always like, I'm a
Speaker 1: little cookie, and I always think like four years is
Speaker 1: a good time amount of time for things to change.
Speaker 1: And just with me being in Los Angeles now and
Speaker 1: you being here and those being kind of like fixed
Speaker 1: things now, we just need to figure out a new way,
Speaker 1: a smarter way, um, a more tenable yeah, just wait
Speaker 1: to way to do this. And we want to try
Speaker 1: to keep the podcast the same as it can be,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think that we both
Speaker 1: love what it is and we don't know where we're going.
Speaker 1: We should also say that we don't know where we're going.
Speaker 1: As we said, we love what the podcast is. I
Speaker 1: think that's why this is what the episod it's going
Speaker 1: to be. I think we're just gonna like talk about ourselves,
Speaker 1: cry it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. I feel I
Speaker 1: feel like it's you're not making it a bigger deal
Speaker 1: than it is, because it's a big deal for us
Speaker 1: to it was a it was a really really really
Speaker 1: really hard decision to come to and and you and
Speaker 1: it was not like a yeah, okay, let's let's do it.
Speaker 1: Was It wasn't like a finally, it was like a
Speaker 1: very kind of like fraught thing. And so suffice it
Speaker 1: to say that, we just want to say thank you
Speaker 1: so much to Forever Dog who let us completely do us.
Speaker 1: It's when it's it's it's it's a it's a place
Speaker 1: where they didn't presume anything about what a successful show
Speaker 1: looked like, and they truly we've never gotten any note
Speaker 1: from them to like dial it down or big episode
Speaker 1: shorter like that, never like truly creatively no notes like
Speaker 1: no point where it was like what like nine hours long?
Speaker 1: But um and also like but that is so special,
Speaker 1: and you know what I don't know that a podcast
Speaker 1: with the two of us four years ago called Lost
Speaker 1: Culture ristas with one with one half a segment which
Speaker 1: is basically sort of just like a first thought like
Speaker 1: a minute long rant would have sold anywhere else or
Speaker 1: um they whatever, they took a chance on us truly
Speaker 1: and also not for nothing, but um, it's been such
Speaker 1: a I guess like symbiotic. Is that a positive thing
Speaker 1: is symbiotic? Okay, it's been a symbiotic relationship because I
Speaker 1: genuinely feel like we've grown as Forever Dogg has grown.
Speaker 1: And we know that so many of you guys that
Speaker 1: listened to Last Cultures also Love Seek Treatment and The
Speaker 1: Worst and the Unofficial Expert and Beyond and all these
Speaker 1: amazing podcasts that are on the network. And I think
Speaker 1: what we want to say is like that we hope
Speaker 1: to have like a strong positive relationship with all of
Speaker 1: those podcasts going forward, because it's only like so much love. Um,
Speaker 1: this is so this is just gonna be an earnest ass,
Speaker 1: motherfucking episode because I keep thinking about this quote. Someone
Speaker 1: asked Tony Hale recently, Um, I think was that it
Speaker 1: was at Vulture Fest. Who is this bitch ringing who
Speaker 1: is this bitch ringing in? Who is this a bit
Speaker 1: trying to ring a surprise guest? Um? Yeah, yeah, do
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Um. Tony Hale was in this interview recently.
Speaker 1: It was at Vulture Fest, and someone asked him like
Speaker 1: just generic career advice, and he said something along the
Speaker 1: lines of like, before you invest in a career, invest
Speaker 1: in a community, which I kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, that's kind of like that's kind
Speaker 1: of been like the buttress thing that, like, I've been
Speaker 1: very lucky that we've both been very lucky to have
Speaker 1: just like absolute friends, just people who like get each
Speaker 1: other beyond just like Mamma find your trying stuff. It's
Speaker 1: just like really like people who are different than you.
Speaker 1: It's not it's this thing where like the network like
Speaker 1: invested in an all comedy scene that like any other
Speaker 1: network would have not known what to do with and
Speaker 1: let them go fucking bonkers, like oh oh, Patty Laura,
Speaker 1: let you guys want to do a crazy, funked up
Speaker 1: like it's just like thee and brilliant that show is,
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure there have been no creative notes from them,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like like yes, yes, like you have
Speaker 1: a fucking soundboard, just like press all the buttons. Like yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like I don't think I don't think any other
Speaker 1: network would have really just like given completely free domain
Speaker 1: into anybody, just anybody, but like especially people in that
Speaker 1: and that and that sort of And there's a high
Speaker 1: bar now, there's a high bar. Now. Not all of
Speaker 1: us can be. Not all of us can be a
Speaker 1: woman's smile, not all of us can be for a
Speaker 1: musical for us, for us. Yeah, but to meat now
Speaker 1: forever dog isn't just fielding all pitches. No, honey, you're
Speaker 1: a pitch. Better be sented, give something extra home, give
Speaker 1: it something extra, make a butterfly flight out of the
Speaker 1: invitation like in Bridesmaids. Um. But yeah, I know it's
Speaker 1: it's very emotional to be like back here like tonight,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing my show, and you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's just so crazy how everything has changed, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I think about like when we started the podcast
Speaker 1: and we were just like trying to get a run
Speaker 1: at you c be in trying to get yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know, um and and we would be and we
Speaker 1: would record an episode every month. It was well, we
Speaker 1: were so bad about we were so about recording them.
Speaker 1: But also and god, I mean just Alex and Joe
Speaker 1: were like, maybe you guy should like do like one
Speaker 1: episode of a week, like let's talk about like let's
Speaker 1: release schedules and all this stuff. And we're like whatever,
Speaker 1: I remember saying to you a couple of times, like
Speaker 1: we owe them an episode. We have to go on,
Speaker 1: and we we're like way behind. We said we would
Speaker 1: do this, and then for like and then fast forward
Speaker 1: like two and a half years of weekly episodes NonStop,
Speaker 1: like you know, we've been going and like I haven't
Speaker 1: felt any sort of fatigue around. No, I still love
Speaker 1: doing this. This is this is my favorite thing. This
Speaker 1: is this is um yeah, this is like career highlights
Speaker 1: for me too, I think. And it's just like um,
Speaker 1: and I'm an am using present tense like this is
Speaker 1: like I mean, yes, the don't panic sort of message
Speaker 1: from that Matt just sort of like called out in
Speaker 1: the beginning like that's that's that's that's real. Like this
Speaker 1: this show shows by no means over um are again
Speaker 1: a relationship with Forever Dog is by no means over um.
Speaker 1: It's just about sort of distributing it, planning it logistically
Speaker 1: and we really don't even know how we're going to
Speaker 1: do that, and that's going to be part of the fun,
Speaker 1: is you know, like I'm sure that um, as we
Speaker 1: do continue on, like whoever we start to partner earth
Speaker 1: is going to have more ideas and is going to
Speaker 1: have you know, probably good ones, probably ones that don't work.
Speaker 1: But I think that's what that's part of what makes this,
Speaker 1: you know, not just a podcast but an extension of
Speaker 1: of me and Bowen as like comedians, is we're going
Speaker 1: to be trying things out, and um to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, like I was always like kind of crazed
Speaker 1: about this idea of you and I are recording remotely
Speaker 1: just because I am so fearful that the energy won't
Speaker 1: be there. But truly, it's got to the point now
Speaker 1: where it's like, I don't know how else we will
Speaker 1: do it, but we will. Okay, this is this is
Speaker 1: some like inside baseball, not inside baseball, but this is
Speaker 1: just like a peek into like the discussions that we
Speaker 1: have and generally is that Matt and I are article
Speaker 1: not currently but like in the recent past have been
Speaker 1: have I sort of been at this discussion point around
Speaker 1: well if we like here, here's it's like a pick two. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you picked two, you so you release one episode
Speaker 1: a week, you record in in the same studio, and
Speaker 1: you make a topical. So you pick two, you can't
Speaker 1: make a topical. And if you want to make a
Speaker 1: topical and record every week, you can't be in the
Speaker 1: same coast. Yeah. I don't know what's better. I would
Speaker 1: actually honestly love to hear from everyone. Yeah. To be
Speaker 1: honest with you, would you rather hear us? Um? Would
Speaker 1: you rather feel like? Because I always feel like last
Speaker 1: Culturing is this as we have like a creative discussion
Speaker 1: with you. Honestly, that is really what makes the show
Speaker 1: is we want I love to hear I love. I
Speaker 1: love to hear good bad, even like the shitty review
Speaker 1: is like stung it first, but now I read them
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, it's it's an exchange. Um. So
Speaker 1: I would wonder because for me, the podcast is we
Speaker 1: bring in the guests, we find out about their cultural upbringings, beginnings, influences,
Speaker 1: and a conversation starts from there and we also contribute
Speaker 1: to that, um with some light topical takes with I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, But doesn't necessarily have to be topical.
Speaker 1: But I also do think there's something really um great
Speaker 1: about being able to give fresh takes on things as
Speaker 1: they happened, like, for example, what are you thinking of?
Speaker 1: I have one example that I love, like for example, well,
Speaker 1: there's the amar Rossa episode. So basically when we recorded
Speaker 1: that episode with Io and she had come in and
Speaker 1: it was which, by the way, in retrospect, was not
Speaker 1: a big deal. Really it was just another day of
Speaker 1: the news cycle, but for that week it dominated. Yes,
Speaker 1: but when omar Rossa touched down, when Hurricane amar Rossa
Speaker 1: hit the damn coast, and we were emphatic that we
Speaker 1: had to release the episode that day. That actually was
Speaker 1: one of my favorite episode. That was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite episodes to spend and like a really formally experimental
Speaker 1: episode where we started out with Omer the omar Rosa interview. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was experimental for us, very experimental media. Anyone who
Speaker 1: ever doubted him Donald's disagreed, disagreed, will bow wait? What
Speaker 1: does she say? We'll have to bow down to the
Speaker 1: most powerful man in the universe? What a psycho? I
Speaker 1: love it. It's so funny and destructive and terrible and
Speaker 1: like got an ultimately, like ultimately yeah, yeah. But so
Speaker 1: there's that, And then there's also the fact that, like
Speaker 1: sometimes we release episodes that y'all don't even know we
Speaker 1: did a month and a half and they ver fine,
Speaker 1: but I think that you got You guys can tell
Speaker 1: when sometimes they can tell. I'm always embarrassed when I
Speaker 1: hear myself, like, for example, the Gina Rodriguez. Sure, okay, let'
Speaker 1: let's talk about the genius that was so annoying you guys,
Speaker 1: because not your fault. No, it was because now, well,
Speaker 1: I I should have I shouldn't know better than to
Speaker 1: risk trusting someone as a volatile as miss Rodrigue. She
Speaker 1: could at any second turn around and say a damn slur.
Speaker 1: It apparent. It is apparent now sure, But I was
Speaker 1: always very suspicious of her. After her Hollywood report around tables,
Speaker 1: I was like, something's going on there? Really were you
Speaker 1: really were you did say that? And I was like,
Speaker 1: and stop, I really, I really was very dismissive of
Speaker 1: your reservations about Gina Gina Trutherism. Yeah, I was just like,
Speaker 1: there's something going like she's there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: mania going on there, definitely, and like which is beautiful
Speaker 1: and like it's great, Like, please let that exist as
Speaker 1: it is unless she slips up and wraps to the
Speaker 1: wraps the N word and posts like you have to
Speaker 1: have so many missing filters in your brain to be
Speaker 1: like yes and now we post post post. You can't
Speaker 1: do that. Um but okay, so the gena thing. But
Speaker 1: I think you have nothing to be embarrassed about. Well,
Speaker 1: it was just I literally said the words I stabbed
Speaker 1: Gina Rodriguez like the week after, the week after that happened.
Speaker 1: And then people like it wasn't even the first it
Speaker 1: wasn't even the first day they were giving me ship.
Speaker 1: It was like two days after the episode. They were like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's crazy that you said that, and I was like,
Speaker 1: wait what, And then I thought everyone was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's obvious that you backloud because you announced the date
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the episode. But still I don't
Speaker 1: want that out there, and so I promptly didn't. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Gina Rodriguez on the next show,
Speaker 1: which happened to be Top a Cow was top Account. Well,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, is it annoying? Because I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm usually the person who's like recording this on
Speaker 1: this date and it doesn't annoy me. I actually no, now,
Speaker 1: now it's kind of saved my life that day. Otherwise
Speaker 1: I would have been understanding Gina Rodriguer fresh office slur context. No, no,
Speaker 1: no chronological context. I think. So it's was what was
Speaker 1: the pick two? Again? It was uh same Coast topical
Speaker 1: weekly release. I mean, I guess, I guess ideally for
Speaker 1: any like any old podcast, it's like, ideally what you'd
Speaker 1: want is that both of us in the same spot
Speaker 1: doing it. We have a fixed point every week or
Speaker 1: we do it, but that is now not legitically feasible,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think we just figure it
Speaker 1: out with with whoever we are with. Yeah, are you? Um,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I feel like your sticking point is
Speaker 1: still we have the magic, the chemistry has to be
Speaker 1: in the room, in the same physical space. Can I
Speaker 1: tell you another reason why why I like this is
Speaker 1: because something I realized about myself and I'll reveal this
Speaker 1: to you, which is why when we whenever we interview
Speaker 1: people together, why I like to sit on the outside
Speaker 1: is because I get very nervous still with people that
Speaker 1: I'm that we're about to interview. Does it I get anxious?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it mitigated in any way if you
Speaker 1: are talking to them from across the computer screen? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be. But what about that? But I'll be
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, which is where a lot of people
Speaker 1: we haven't gotten lived, and then they're going to come
Speaker 1: in and like, Julius, it's gonna be me and Julia
Speaker 1: Styles and then like you're gonna be on a on
Speaker 1: a damn computer thirty seconds before we start, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, Hi, that's bowen. Yes, yes, yes, And
Speaker 1: I've been sitting there with Julia Stalls for six or
Speaker 1: seven minutes pretense, pertence, even fifteen. I totally hear you.
Speaker 1: I get a little skittish. I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1: Like I see. I literally watched last night the episode
Speaker 1: of you on est and NOL and you like hugging
Speaker 1: Scarlett Johansson and making that face of like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this was so fun by like, I was just like,
Speaker 1: how how do you do it? Because because we just
Speaker 1: to spend time all week and that's just like that's
Speaker 1: just like that was just like a full culmination of that.
Speaker 1: By the way, on the record, I'll say it really
Speaker 1: really cool to be around scar Joe like a good hand.
Speaker 1: Imagine us three years ago like listening to this whatever
Speaker 1: hearing us be like we stand and you have to
Speaker 1: hear people out. I mean no, I mean look, no,
Speaker 1: she's she's a great fucking SNL host. Oh. I was
Speaker 1: a good episode. It was a fun episode. Where where
Speaker 1: are you with the whole Oscar's race? We had a
Speaker 1: little discussion about this in the text spread today. You
Speaker 1: think it's going to be Renee. You well, you said
Speaker 1: that you believe that Scarlett will win an Oscar. I
Speaker 1: think she'll definitely get the nomination. I think she's going
Speaker 1: to get to nomination. Jo. I think she'll get a
Speaker 1: nomination from Marriage Story. I support her nomination, and Rabbit,
Speaker 1: I support her nomination. Now, I just it's it's for me.
Speaker 1: It's I was on Film Experience today, Yes, as I've been,
Speaker 1: as you've been. Really, it's this is such a fun
Speaker 1: time of year for all of this, of course, but
Speaker 1: especially on Film Experience. Yes, of course, it's the Experience
Speaker 1: dot Net season season and uh, just reading up on
Speaker 1: what Nate's been saying, um, and he seems to think
Speaker 1: that Renee's a lock yes, I would agree Rene's a lock,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's it's not super crowded this year.
Speaker 1: And did you see I did not see Judy. Okay,
Speaker 1: so as someone who saw Judy, let me tell you
Speaker 1: it is an absolutely stunning ten of a performance, absolute
Speaker 1: six of the film, which to me is like, you know,
Speaker 1: they say that matters less with the Best Actress nominees,
Speaker 1: but not and not so with the Best Actor. No,
Speaker 1: kind of like films that get nominated for Best Picture
Speaker 1: often scoop along their lead actor performances, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: lead actor is very competitive, very competitive. This year, I
Speaker 1: will say last night I saw another Best Actress contender.
Speaker 1: I saw Bombshell. Um. So the thing about Bombshell is
Speaker 1: and I love all the actors in it, and what
Speaker 1: a cast, what an amazing Darcy Darcy's in it in
Speaker 1: the film, very good performances pretty much all around. It
Speaker 1: is a TV movie. It's like it's like it's I
Speaker 1: wouldn't need and give it like game change level or
Speaker 1: like recount level, but and and those are both and
Speaker 1: those are TV those but but but I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: those are HBO films. This to me felt like so
Speaker 1: like an HBO film, not even it's it to me,
Speaker 1: it was it was like that pedigree was like on screen.
Speaker 1: I just I feel like I've always had a lot
Speaker 1: of trepidation about this movie coming out because it's about
Speaker 1: Fox News, and while I think what happened to the
Speaker 1: women there is tragic and fucked up and Roger Els
Speaker 1: was a monster, it's I guess there there's an interesting
Speaker 1: take there to be found about how like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what it's it's so weird to think, what is
Speaker 1: the message of this movie, even even after seeing it.
Speaker 1: You use right, because obviously sexual harassment is is acceptable
Speaker 1: nowhere right, right, but it is interesting to see it
Speaker 1: happening to these women. Um, but I wish the movie
Speaker 1: had more of a take. I just wish it was
Speaker 1: thrillingly told or like super dramatically compelling or or even
Speaker 1: really emotional it was did you feel like it was
Speaker 1: presenting you with like an array of like takes or anything,
Speaker 1: or it was it was it was kind of just
Speaker 1: like misogyny happens, it happened here, Sexual harassment happens, it
Speaker 1: happened here. And it's like I almost felt like like
Speaker 1: we're we're we're past that in the in the cultural discussion.
Speaker 1: You know what, maybe it had something to do with
Speaker 1: like the Megan Kelly of it all. But you thought
Speaker 1: Charlie's was great. Charlie's was good. She was good. My
Speaker 1: problem with the movie, though, is that Megan Kelly is
Speaker 1: a figure like I wish it. I wish that I
Speaker 1: got a better sense of her, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I didn't get a good sense of her. I got
Speaker 1: that she was good at her job, and they sort
Speaker 1: of hinted that she didn't like being called a feminist
Speaker 1: and like was allergic to that word, and she kind
Speaker 1: of like definitely had a difficult time with the uh
Speaker 1: sort of threats to her safety and her family safety
Speaker 1: that came along with the Trump thing after she asked
Speaker 1: the debate question of him. But I don't know. In
Speaker 1: like seeing her gather support at Fox News against Roger Ales,
Speaker 1: I felt like it could have been more dramatically or compelling.
Speaker 1: Lee told how she got to that point as a person,
Speaker 1: from being like a company woman to being the kind
Speaker 1: of person who was like, let's bring down my boss,
Speaker 1: the man who gave me a career. But correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I feel like the story just in
Speaker 1: the journalism journalism of it always that it was mostly Gretchen,
Speaker 1: who is sort of And this is where I think
Speaker 1: the movie could have done with a little bit more
Speaker 1: dramatic embellishment. I think we could have had more scenes
Speaker 1: with Nicole and Charlie's because there's almost none. Yes, and
Speaker 1: so like for example, like um like uh Mary Queena Scott's.
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't have real scenes together in life,
Speaker 1: but you saw them because it was dramatically compelling. This
Speaker 1: movie was an article. It was literally like an like
Speaker 1: an like a like like a feature in like like
Speaker 1: somend like a huge bomb trall. Yeah, it was like
Speaker 1: a New York magazine article come to life. And which
Speaker 1: is other movie Hustlers. But even but Hustlers was like
Speaker 1: fun to watch. This movie wasn't even fun to watch.
Speaker 1: It was it was. It really should have been, too,
Speaker 1: because it looks like it's gonna be I mean that
Speaker 1: trailer that they showed, which was just them in the elevator,
Speaker 1: so that's a whole scene from the film. Oh interesting,
Speaker 1: But there's like no dialogue, very little, and but I
Speaker 1: loved that because you could feel the tension and I
Speaker 1: was like, I wish this was more imbued in the movie,
Speaker 1: the sense of like anything could happen, Yeah, the sense
Speaker 1: of steaks, like the whole story is just all steaks, right,
Speaker 1: So that's that's so, what's that's that's probably what sobas
Speaker 1: are to you. And there's a yeah, and that's that's
Speaker 1: that's the thing. There's a couple of really good scenes
Speaker 1: in the movie, um and they both have Margot Robbie.
Speaker 1: And Margot Robbie is really good in the movie. UM
Speaker 1: better when she has big stuff to play, I think,
Speaker 1: but like you're talking about, like, yes, I think that's
Speaker 1: when she's got a character to play. She's really really good. Um.
Speaker 1: And she she creates herself a character here and this
Speaker 1: this uh young woman who comes to Fox News and
Speaker 1: she really wants to be on camera talent and it's
Speaker 1: like sort of willing to do anything within bounds to
Speaker 1: get there. And Roger Els presents the situation that that
Speaker 1: she finds herself in and it's obviously it's harassment, it's
Speaker 1: and it rises to a certain level. I won't spoil
Speaker 1: any o these two scenes. Two good scenes happen with her,
Speaker 1: which is the scene where she is talking to John
Speaker 1: Lithgow as Roger Ailes and he's saying to her, you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's certain things I need to see or have
Speaker 1: proven to me if I gonna consider you on air
Speaker 1: as on their talent. And then you do see it
Speaker 1: play out a little bit, just how uncomfortable the situation
Speaker 1: that's and and and and you see the the harassment
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's I'm gonna say, that's like very
Speaker 1: interest's compelling, right, And then there's a scene later when
Speaker 1: she reveals to Kate McKinnon how far she's let it
Speaker 1: go on. And and those are two really compelling scenes.
Speaker 1: And and Margot Robbie had like an arc. My problem
Speaker 1: is that like the movie sort of just sort of
Speaker 1: tells the real story of Fox News in its way,
Speaker 1: and they break it up between these three characters where
Speaker 1: it's like Gretchen Carlson making a stir and basically she
Speaker 1: gets fired from Fox News. And then Nicole spends the
Speaker 1: whole about to the film, like on the phone in
Speaker 1: her kitchen in a thin sweater, like just kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: what's happening now? And you don't know? And then Megan
Speaker 1: Kelly the whole time is like sort of slowly being
Speaker 1: fed up with the patriarchy and realizing she has to
Speaker 1: do something like she find like does the right thing
Speaker 1: and stands up for women. But it just wasn't dramatically
Speaker 1: compelling interesting interesting, interesting, um and what my last point
Speaker 1: about it? Sorry, I'm just listening to you, and iuse
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything, but I think I'm curious to
Speaker 1: think what what you'll you'll think when you see because
Speaker 1: for me, it just it didn't work and it could
Speaker 1: have been so great. My other's big thing with this
Speaker 1: movie is they make such a big deal about making
Speaker 1: Charlie's there on like indistinguishable from Megan Kelly, like just
Speaker 1: makers look so much like oh my god, her face
Speaker 1: looks like she does like just like trailer much like her,
Speaker 1: and and she's very much doing Megan Kelly, and she
Speaker 1: exists in the film like as Megan Kelly in this
Speaker 1: way where it's like a very about the impersonation, whereas
Speaker 1: Nicole isn't doing a Gretchen Carlson doesn't look like her
Speaker 1: to the point where it's like you got one person
Speaker 1: doing a full caricature and one person who as a
Speaker 1: result of that, she just looks even more Miscastay, are
Speaker 1: you at a point now of Nicole fatigue or now,
Speaker 1: I don't ever have Nicole being critical. I will always
Speaker 1: call things as they see them. Yes, like the nomination
Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm here the Nicole nomination for bombshell for
Speaker 1: SAG is like what well for doing what? It's like
Speaker 1: the nomination for God what some some Oh SAG is whack.
Speaker 1: It's like the Morning Show nominations at the Golden Globes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yes, that's right. These are all bought. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's well, they're bought. And also it's like actress voting
Speaker 1: for who they love and respect well for for SAG, SAG.
Speaker 1: I get Nicole, but I'm talking about globes. It's gloves
Speaker 1: are working wild this year. I'm sorry I can publicly
Speaker 1: say that the gloves are wild and we're we're what
Speaker 1: not egg shasel that Bowen can publicly say, I that's
Speaker 1: the big change unshackled. Um. I think. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just I truly like glanced at the nominee the nominees
Speaker 1: for Golden Globes, and I was just like, okay, Like
Speaker 1: I truly was like I haven't really revisited because it
Speaker 1: just it was just so upsetting. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck really like and truly not just not
Speaker 1: to be a damned portman about it, but like the
Speaker 1: director's thing is crazy. It's so foolish, foolish. I look
Speaker 1: at the list this year and I'm so not excited
Speaker 1: about it because it's so like male, Like, what is
Speaker 1: I don't know what is that? But I mean, but
Speaker 1: fucking Nate's putting it on his prediction index for OSCARS.
Speaker 1: I saw that, and it's getting nominations everywhere, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is it. I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure once
Speaker 1: we see it will love it. Yeah. Well, Chris Schniker
Speaker 1: was explaining it to me. It's like, well, we're the
Speaker 1: World War One movie, and I'm like, oh god, hard
Speaker 1: the hardest pass, the hardest pass. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: for the dads. We've gotta give it to the dad.
Speaker 1: You gotta give it to that. You give something to
Speaker 1: the dad. But the gays are eating really well and
Speaker 1: are fed. The gays are fed. I gotta see Portrait
Speaker 1: of a Lady on Fire. Oh I heard it, um,
Speaker 1: I gotta have. You still haven't seen Parasite yet? No?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Matt, what are you doing? It's it's
Speaker 1: I heard it the best movie of the year. I
Speaker 1: can't stop thinking, what else have you seen that you've
Speaker 1: liked or not liked? Because I just went off. I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't been good so far, just because
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just such a condensed season. It
Speaker 1: feels like, um, just in terms of the length. But
Speaker 1: I feel like you've been getting your screeners. They are
Speaker 1: my department. I got to pick them up. But I
Speaker 1: really loved, really loved marriage story. I love marriage story. Really.
Speaker 1: I saw Jojo Rabbit, The Jojo Rabbit, a marriage story
Speaker 1: like like the last two like buzzy movies that had
Speaker 1: a Scarlett A than I just just very unconsciously, subconsciously
Speaker 1: um talk about marriage story. Study said something really fun
Speaker 1: to me last night. She goes, the people who like
Speaker 1: don't get marriage to are people who don't understand the
Speaker 1: bomb back sort of tone. And the whole thing about
Speaker 1: bomb Back is that he is he is very self
Speaker 1: aware about what the movies are like. Do you see
Speaker 1: Mrs America No actually looks Cuckoo Lukuen movie where Greta
Speaker 1: Gerwick is being like a full assid weirdo eccentric and
Speaker 1: uh Lola kirk Is being is like sort of the
Speaker 1: great like sort of uh you know, um surrogate for
Speaker 1: the audience and stuff. It's it's like has some great
Speaker 1: Vesica scenes. I loved um. And it's just like it's
Speaker 1: one of those movies that's just it feels like a
Speaker 1: Neil Simon play. It's just like so like self contained,
Speaker 1: but also it's it's just a weird, bizarre movie that
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, like Capital I Indie and then but
Speaker 1: then you realize that it's like it's self aware in
Speaker 1: this way where it's like he knows that it's just
Speaker 1: like pretty frivolous and like that the that the writing
Speaker 1: is like out there and wacko and um whatever. And
Speaker 1: so I feel like it's the same thing with marriage Story,
Speaker 1: where it's like he knows that it's a very like
Speaker 1: small all movie in a way. Right, Well, it's really
Speaker 1: it's really about two people in their relationship and what
Speaker 1: happens when they m consult the outside forces it's not working.
Speaker 1: I I really I loved it, and people have just
Speaker 1: pointed out actually that it's just like sort of the
Speaker 1: great thing about it is that it's not placing blame
Speaker 1: on anybody it's just like you just it's just it's
Speaker 1: just it's just what happens. Well, they spoiler alert they
Speaker 1: have a major fight, which which honestly, it's now kind
Speaker 1: of coming back to me in a way. Um, rightfully,
Speaker 1: so it's pretty iconic. But as they're ripping each other apart,
Speaker 1: which they've never done, you realize how much is in
Speaker 1: the script. Yes, there is so much in that script
Speaker 1: that's set up to that in the lead up to
Speaker 1: that fight. Yeah, yeah, And honestly, you realize how kind
Speaker 1: of good they've been about hiding their feelings, you know,
Speaker 1: to keep their kid out of it and to not
Speaker 1: hurt each other. And then when they stop caring about
Speaker 1: that and really go for each other, it's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: Adam Driver, Adam Driver is wildly very very good and
Speaker 1: also saying all those things that you don't mean, like
Speaker 1: that really like hit a chord with me that and also, um,
Speaker 1: the end of the movie when she goes to tie
Speaker 1: his shoe, I was like, this is so that's really
Speaker 1: really beautiful, just to show that you're never going to
Speaker 1: stop caring about the person and not wanting that person
Speaker 1: to like fall down, you know what I mean. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the letter. The letter was just like you you knew
Speaker 1: it was important, you knew it was like, Okay, she's
Speaker 1: not saying this, she doesn't want to read this aloud,
Speaker 1: like you knew it was going to come back in
Speaker 1: some way. But like the way it came back wasn't
Speaker 1: like super clever or anything. It wasn't trying to be
Speaker 1: like mind blowing. It was just like very effective and elegant.
Speaker 1: I love that really really good. And I'll say again,
Speaker 1: I think Scarlett's great in it. I think Adam is
Speaker 1: just his his acting while when he's reading that her
Speaker 1: and that pause he takes just to get himself together,
Speaker 1: like he's like a real, real, real actor. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I could have probably done without the scene of him
Speaker 1: singing being alive. I don't think the movie needed that,
Speaker 1: but you got it kind of mirrored Scarlet singing musical
Speaker 1: the Sondheim thing too. Oh yeah, sure, I think I
Speaker 1: think it's kind of just like, yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: was kind of the device. Was not that it was
Speaker 1: a device, but that was sort of like the yeah, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: the little thing. But um, what do you think of
Speaker 1: Dern She was great. She's so good that she was great.
Speaker 1: Leota was great. They were all, God that she's a
Speaker 1: stand up. She's so funny. The Martha Kelly, the Kelly
Speaker 1: that was like a sketch. It was so funny. And
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a great comedy piece in
Speaker 1: the movie, Like it's so fun Honestly, she was so
Speaker 1: good in the movie. And I've known Martha for for
Speaker 1: a little while. You've known Martha. I actually you know what,
Speaker 1: Me and Pat competed against Martha in boast Rattle, Oh
Speaker 1: my god. And who's she paired with? She was paired well,
Speaker 1: she was paid for someone that she beat, and then
Speaker 1: there was someone else, and then me and Pat were
Speaker 1: paired against each other, and the audience decided to take
Speaker 1: us both to the finals. So me and Pat faced
Speaker 1: off against someone. And I'm so sorry, and not forgetting
Speaker 1: Martha and Martha one, of course, she's just so compelling
Speaker 1: to watch, so good, so good, You're like, who is this?
Speaker 1: This is such an interesting character, like who is that?
Speaker 1: And also just like you can feel not in this,
Speaker 1: not in a pejorative way, but you can feel like
Speaker 1: her booking in the audition, you know, when she came
Speaker 1: with the choice on the castom people were like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: that everything also not for nothing. But I identified with
Speaker 1: Laura's energy in this you. I was thinking about you
Speaker 1: the whole time. I was like, this is Matt Rodgerson,
Speaker 1: I was I identified with I'm gonna say it's Scarlett.
Speaker 1: I identified with Scarlett just in the way that I'm
Speaker 1: just like really reserved. And I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: really know how to express how I feel in this relationship,
Speaker 1: like you know what, I really like loved about it,
Speaker 1: like long scenes like I love like and also just
Speaker 1: like that's weird choice to have Scarlett like walking around
Speaker 1: the apartment sort of like fuxing with things and she's
Speaker 1: telling her story to Laura and she is amazing and
Speaker 1: Laura goes, honey. I was like, this is like so
Speaker 1: just like a long block of text and then oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the Minka honey just stuck in there. You know what?
Speaker 1: You know who? You know who Laura Dern is and
Speaker 1: that movie she's both of us because the Minuka honey
Speaker 1: is me. I wouldn't know what the honey was called.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had Minuka honey? Um? Anytime you? Oh, actually,
Speaker 1: before your show, swallow a bit of Manuka honey. We'll
Speaker 1: go to hold you know, like Greta has like organic
Speaker 1: honey in her apartment, but the Manuka honey is special
Speaker 1: because it's it's pollinated from a flower that only grows
Speaker 1: in New Zealand and it has like these like just
Speaker 1: healing properties, let's just say. And it's like it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's not like full on like homeopathic, but it's
Speaker 1: just like I remember I was that was really sick
Speaker 1: when my family visited visited Australia New Zealand last year,
Speaker 1: and the girl was like, yeah, just take a take
Speaker 1: a take a spoonful and you'll be fine. And I
Speaker 1: did it and it was anyway. Um, well, the background
Speaker 1: on that is I'm kind of panicking because my voice
Speaker 1: is feeling a little scratchy. Sound great, Well, I have
Speaker 1: my show tonight. I did this to last week. I
Speaker 1: was pan nicking the day of, in the day before
Speaker 1: and the day before my show, and I had a
Speaker 1: huge canker sre like in the back of my mouth,
Speaker 1: like on my throat and it was like gnrtally and
Speaker 1: I couldn't phone ate and I was like truck. But
Speaker 1: then my show at the Hollywood and prov was great, great,
Speaker 1: that's perfect. Um, And of course. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be the same thing tonight. Everyone's going to be
Speaker 1: so excited to see you. I literally was like texting
Speaker 1: and chard before like being like I'm depressed. You're like
Speaker 1: are you? Are you? I'm feeling a little down. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's this. It's it's just this, this
Speaker 1: is this has been a downer for me just or
Speaker 1: just and by this, I mean they forever dug of
Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, it's bum it bombs me out. I
Speaker 1: think it's that. I think it's coming back to New
Speaker 1: York and like feeling like like, um, New York is
Speaker 1: like happening with without, which is so dumb, so dumb,
Speaker 1: but also just like just sometimes like at the end
Speaker 1: of the year, you know, you do take stock of
Speaker 1: like how much has changed, Like you know, like I
Speaker 1: feel like I haven't even um like I'll say this,
Speaker 1: this will be an admission, so like I feel like
Speaker 1: I haven't seen you in a while. And sometimes I
Speaker 1: like sometimes I like see the things that you're doing
Speaker 1: and I'll think to myself like, oh, I wonder what
Speaker 1: it was. I wonder like what funny thing happened in
Speaker 1: creating that, you know what I mean? Like and then
Speaker 1: I think probably likewise for you. For me, it's like
Speaker 1: it's hard when you come from a place of doing
Speaker 1: everything together to then see that person doing something different
Speaker 1: and it's not it's not I want to stress, it's
Speaker 1: not about like jealousy. It's not about like anything to
Speaker 1: do with that. It's truly just about like, oh there's
Speaker 1: like my like person doing that. How you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's like it's been a little bit different
Speaker 1: to be separated from you like that, and it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's just part of it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it is though, do you mean?
Speaker 1: And I don't, but I don't know that it's a
Speaker 1: part of it to like accept it because I don't
Speaker 1: know I'm not accepting it, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I think about you, there's like a specter of
Speaker 1: you like everywhere. Like I said that to Jared too,
Speaker 1: I was like, I know that, like it's it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of cool to watch because like a little part
Speaker 1: of me isn't is in it because you literally said
Speaker 1: a little bit bitchy I know you did, and that
Speaker 1: was like a Suti pitch and she was like she
Speaker 1: was like, can we say that? I was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's it's like it's like Matt's joke and we're like
Speaker 1: we can was like, did you do you feel okay
Speaker 1: with that? I didn't feel like it was taken from
Speaker 1: me if that's but I definitely heard it and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god. And then I felt like
Speaker 1: it felt like a little shout out, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But then like there's things all the time
Speaker 1: and the stuff that I'm doing, like I'm seeing, I'm
Speaker 1: seeing for what it's worth, I'm seeing you and you're
Speaker 1: working on a lot of very good things, and I well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I's only have this like aching feeling of like oh
Speaker 1: my god, I would be so happy just just to
Speaker 1: like make something with you, like on on like a
Speaker 1: on a different like Cadence and on a different like
Speaker 1: clip where it's like being in a being in a
Speaker 1: writer's room with you, Like I've never had that, Like
Speaker 1: I I can't imagine what that's like in like it's
Speaker 1: like you know what, And because these collaborations, I think
Speaker 1: about this all the time. Still, it's like falling in love.
Speaker 1: It's like you meet your people and then there's just
Speaker 1: this magic and I know for a fact that like
Speaker 1: you're like you're like the one you know, Well, my
Speaker 1: thing too is just like sorry as I sound so
Speaker 1: nasal and ridiculous, um, nasal and ridiculous both, It's just like, um,
Speaker 1: I think we were just like perhaps unnaturally codependent, just
Speaker 1: because I don't think we're I don't think we were
Speaker 1: ever actually codependent, though we'll explain we were. Never it
Speaker 1: would it never got to a point where it like
Speaker 1: it was so poisonous and like the tuperative we get into.
Speaker 1: But it was never a thing where it was like
Speaker 1: it was never it was never a thing where we
Speaker 1: were like enabling or disabling each other from doing things
Speaker 1: that like we we truly on an individual level, wanted
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah. No, I don't even I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about it like in a pejorative or negative way when
Speaker 1: I say the word codependent, which I think the word
Speaker 1: codependent like is inherently like a little negative. I guess
Speaker 1: what I mean is like, um, when these situations, when
Speaker 1: when it's such a volume of success together and then
Speaker 1: like those things split off, it's it's you question, like
Speaker 1: how much of this am I actually able to do
Speaker 1: by myself or not? By myself with people, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I I think all the time, like, um,
Speaker 1: would I be more dynamic on stage right now if
Speaker 1: Bowen was here? Can I do this by myself? Like
Speaker 1: even like I all throughout this year, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't perform as much, and it it's it doesn't bother
Speaker 1: me actively because I'm working and for the first time ever,
Speaker 1: I'm like working on things in television like I'm officially
Speaker 1: like but from my in my third room like and
Speaker 1: so it's like that's azing and I'm very grateful for that,
Speaker 1: but it does come at like a it doesn cost there.
Speaker 1: I I don't get up on stage anymore, to the
Speaker 1: point where like now when I am up there, there's
Speaker 1: this little piece of me that's like can I still
Speaker 1: do this? And I still remember how to do this?
Speaker 1: And then the only time I'm really comfortable when we
Speaker 1: jump back in is I'll say game show with Dave
Speaker 1: and with you when whenever we do a last school
Speaker 1: juries this show. But truly, it's like I've never had this,
Speaker 1: I've never had this thing where it's like you and
Speaker 1: I all just be like, okay, yeah, sure we'll host
Speaker 1: this thing. And then we just planned go up on
Speaker 1: stage just like talk and somehow we debatedly make it
Speaker 1: work or just for something for the audience. For I'm
Speaker 1: sure some people what the fun is going on, but
Speaker 1: I for what it's worth, I have that thought every
Speaker 1: single day going into work. You think that we're just
Speaker 1: about you. I'm just like, no, it's true. Well I
Speaker 1: mean out full that out, like I think I feel
Speaker 1: comfortable saying this now, but it's like last year it
Speaker 1: was like so crazy for us to do that. So
Speaker 1: here the t is. I also tested for Saturday Night
Speaker 1: Live twice with Bow and they put us in the
Speaker 1: same fucking dressing room and we were running our stuff
Speaker 1: and they were we were both on hold for six
Speaker 1: months and we couldn't work. We couldn't work, and I
Speaker 1: every single day of those six months I had like
Speaker 1: a fantasy of just us being on the show. I
Speaker 1: had that fantasy too, of course, and then like when
Speaker 1: it but I will say this, like I think it.
Speaker 1: I think the way it worked out and the way
Speaker 1: things are working out is meant to be. And who's
Speaker 1: I mean, who's to say that it's not that it's
Speaker 1: not still in process of working out? Well? Who care?
Speaker 1: Just not even not even in terms of like the
Speaker 1: shows that were like the things that we're working on.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's still this is just like part
Speaker 1: of our friendship, our collaboration or whatever. But I just
Speaker 1: I just have to put it out there every day.
Speaker 1: I think this would be so much more fun if
Speaker 1: I was here. Well, I mean I think that about
Speaker 1: all the stuff that I do. I mean, like, I
Speaker 1: have such a cool I have a very cool job
Speaker 1: right now, which is I'm writing on the animated series
Speaker 1: Q for Us, which is going to be on Netflix.
Speaker 1: And the room is like so great, it's gably had
Speaker 1: been created it. Megan Amram is there, guy Brandon selvestr Ira,
Speaker 1: like it's lies a die so funny, like these great people.
Speaker 1: Sean Hayes is gonna my god, we love games assistant
Speaker 1: um and you know, Sean Hayes is going to be
Speaker 1: the lead character. And as it's just what they're coming
Speaker 1: up with is so funny, like to be able to
Speaker 1: even in some small way, be a part of the
Speaker 1: other two. Whenever um that comes out, I'll be so
Speaker 1: excited to see it. And you know, to have game
Speaker 1: show coming out, which is my literal creation. God willing
Speaker 1: Quimby pops off. Please download what Happens watch the Steven Spielberg.
Speaker 1: Weird to be doing these things without you. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's so strange, actually, you know it would be kind
Speaker 1: of cool, is I feel like you would be so
Speaker 1: much better in the room I'm in now. Then then
Speaker 1: I for script for scripted stuff. I'm just like, um,
Speaker 1: maybe that character talks to this character who was mentioned
Speaker 1: in the second episode, Like scripted is hard, just so
Speaker 1: fucking hard. Script is hard. There's so much more ship
Speaker 1: going into it than you think. You don't much to
Speaker 1: track a serialized narative. It's so much, but it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's like a puzzle. You crack a puzzle with every episode,
Speaker 1: with the whole arc or whatever. But when things come together,
Speaker 1: it feels really good. It's so great. I I here's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say. It wouldn't it be cool if
Speaker 1: just like we are on these different tracks now, But
Speaker 1: then of course, like there's no way that we don't
Speaker 1: meet back up. We're still like we're still together. I
Speaker 1: mean that's the thing, because it's like it's no one's dead,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we're going to a
Speaker 1: different network. But I did think that That's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I wanted to do this episode just
Speaker 1: the two of us. I think you agree. It's just
Speaker 1: like we haven't done that, and I feel like so
Speaker 1: much has gone on and change and I do feel like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, as weird as that is to say, like
Speaker 1: I think about people that have listened to us from
Speaker 1: the beginning, you know what, there's like, there's like a
Speaker 1: good like any of you out there. The numbers came in,
Speaker 1: we got I got the numbers through SoundCloud. SoundCloud when
Speaker 1: when the pot first started, and truly like the hits
Speaker 1: were like eight seven people listen to this Like that's crazy,
Speaker 1: that's like more than that's who would come to and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's great. And so we were clocking
Speaker 1: you maybe some people have fallen off, who knows, but
Speaker 1: like I'm sure, but we're clocking like like we know,
Speaker 1: we know the people who have just like been in
Speaker 1: on the ground floor. But some people really have listened
Speaker 1: to this for four years, and that is that's very
Speaker 1: you know. I wonder how we sound changing and stuff.
Speaker 1: I guess we have it if we haven't want to
Speaker 1: be bored at ninety years old. But also like this,
Speaker 1: this is a little look, this is a little document
Speaker 1: of like something going forward. You know, it's like we're
Speaker 1: gonna we can listen back to this and be like,
Speaker 1: oh god, remember when we were talking about bombshell and
Speaker 1: panicking about our careers, like, oh my god, just just
Speaker 1: feeling abandoned by each other. Not abandoned, but you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like feeling like we're missing a part
Speaker 1: of ourselves without the other. Um. I will say, it's
Speaker 1: been interesting to navigate and negotiate gets shared on the
Speaker 1: pot and what doesn't. Some things are just personal. But
Speaker 1: like with the snl of it all, that was so
Speaker 1: insane to go through that and still be like that
Speaker 1: that close, that was that was whack. That was out.
Speaker 1: I gotta listen back to the episodes when we were
Speaker 1: going through that. Oh gosh, I think we did a
Speaker 1: pretty good job. We did a pretty good job of
Speaker 1: just what keeping keeping it under wraps or yeah, well,
Speaker 1: my thing is always like I had to negotiate. Like
Speaker 1: what I was kind of going through at the time
Speaker 1: was like I was sort of figuring out if I
Speaker 1: was embarrassed to say that I didn't get it or like,
Speaker 1: you know, like especially like I think when you do
Speaker 1: something as a twosome all the time as a duo
Speaker 1: and then one person like and I think honestly, earlier
Speaker 1: in our twenties, maybe you felt this way towards me
Speaker 1: when was getting like JFL and being put on house
Speaker 1: to it kind of makes you feel like when you
Speaker 1: are not the one who's popping off at the time,
Speaker 1: it kind of makes you feel like, well, no one's
Speaker 1: here to see me anyway, you Like, it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you do as as
Speaker 1: a symptom of being who we are and like being
Speaker 1: as close as we are. If you don't have those
Speaker 1: moments where you're like comparing yourself to the achievement of
Speaker 1: other person, that's wild. You shouldn't do that. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: do that. But then you are constantly focusing on the
Speaker 1: lack of the thing that you're seeing the other person getting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So this is a funny story that I want to say.
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, I honestly was going to
Speaker 1: save this for like a book, Oh my god, but
Speaker 1: I do want to this is like, this is such
Speaker 1: a funny story about when we when we tested for
Speaker 1: U S and L. So the second time when we
Speaker 1: we were the only ones they put in the same
Speaker 1: well the first time we were the only man, which
Speaker 1: was wild. There was like leventeen girls and us and
Speaker 1: it was in March, and it was whack was Chloe
Speaker 1: there too? Yes? That was not Chloe yet? Are you
Speaker 1: sure Chloe was? Oh? I think Chloe was there anyway. Regardless,
Speaker 1: were the only two boys. And then they kept us
Speaker 1: on hold for like the next six months and we
Speaker 1: were like only it was like six of us that
Speaker 1: they had yet I think I don't know how you felt,
Speaker 1: but I really felt like, oh my god, like this
Speaker 1: could this could happen? Yeah? Like when did when did
Speaker 1: it kick in for you that it could happen? Um?
Speaker 1: Because you you went in four times. I went in
Speaker 1: the summer of seventeen, and that was just such It
Speaker 1: felt like such a fluke. Like they were like, can
Speaker 1: you do this? My manager at the time was like,
Speaker 1: you want to do the showcase for Fessility? Do you
Speaker 1: want to put it together a tape? I was like sure,
Speaker 1: not thinking it was now, and then went over to
Speaker 1: our beautiful friend Doug Whiteck's apartment like shout out five
Speaker 1: minutes of characters. UM put it together, sent in my tape.
Speaker 1: Then I get I get a call like, hey, do
Speaker 1: you want to do the showcase that you see B.
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah sure, UCB Chelsea r I P like
Speaker 1: yeah sure. I mean not a chance in how they
Speaker 1: would ever hire an Asian person or uh East Asian
Speaker 1: person or like a gay man, like this will never
Speaker 1: fucking happen. Meanwhile, I had just come off JFL and
Speaker 1: crushed and they said they didn't want to see me
Speaker 1: at the showcase and I was like, that's the first
Speaker 1: what that was? That was? It was so salty, stupid
Speaker 1: and I am so sorry no, but that was that again,
Speaker 1: was like at the moment, of course, because if you
Speaker 1: remember three months prior, you were just writing high No
Speaker 1: I had got your you would gone JFIL and I
Speaker 1: hadn't Yeah, And I was like, what the fuck? It
Speaker 1: was just such, it's it's always it's it's so like,
Speaker 1: it's so it sucks to have to like not compete,
Speaker 1: but you're all trying to get the same stuff. When
Speaker 1: you're in New York and doing comedy. It's like SNL
Speaker 1: is sitting that's right there. And if they say if
Speaker 1: they say like hey, maybe you you freak the funk out.
Speaker 1: I gotta I might have to like slam the brakes on,
Speaker 1: like like it's like like talking about it or just
Speaker 1: like at least like what do you think about it?
Speaker 1: About just posting about im? Just like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: just like dangling something in front of like a group
Speaker 1: of people who are like, I don't know, I have
Speaker 1: this weird feeling about like I have to say with you.
Speaker 1: I think it's different. I don't know why, but I
Speaker 1: feel like I can totally understand. Can I tell you what?
Speaker 1: I don't love this new kind of era of people
Speaker 1: saying I wrote this. It's like that is not the
Speaker 1: way it has been. Like I understand that with social
Speaker 1: media it's different, but like and whatever, if it's really
Speaker 1: your voice or whatever, like and you're super super proud
Speaker 1: of it, whatever, say that. I just I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit of a purist with that show. And it's like
Speaker 1: you never never writers wrote, wrote wrote anything. It just
Speaker 1: kind of belonged to the show and the performers did
Speaker 1: it and it was decorum and it was just that
Speaker 1: and maybe you would go up to the writer twenty
Speaker 1: years later and be like, did you write? And that's that.
Speaker 1: James Anderson of at all. But with you, I feel
Speaker 1: like because you were, like, I feel like you connect
Speaker 1: with the people that listened to this pod to follow
Speaker 1: you on Instagram and follow you on Twitter and have
Speaker 1: been fans of yours like, and you connect with them
Speaker 1: through social media and so like they I think as
Speaker 1: someone who is like, if I wasn't your best friend,
Speaker 1: I would be your fan, I would want to know
Speaker 1: what you were contributing. So in a way, that's all changing.
Speaker 1: But it's a little bit of an adjustment for me
Speaker 1: as like an SNL purist whenever anyone's like, amazing experience
Speaker 1: writing this with the incredible this and actually that's fair,
Speaker 1: that's fair, That's totally fair. But that's me having maybe
Speaker 1: too much fucking reverence. No, no, no, I got it.
Speaker 1: What's your story? I'm sorry, I know I was. I
Speaker 1: was asking you when when you felt it could happen
Speaker 1: for you, But then that was kind of veering off.
Speaker 1: You were about to tell a story about that when
Speaker 1: we the story? Okay, so yes I did, and I'll
Speaker 1: get back to what. Yeah, So the story is this
Speaker 1: is the second time I had tested and the I
Speaker 1: guess the fourth time you had, and I think they thought, well,
Speaker 1: they're so close, let's put them in a room. Let's
Speaker 1: put them in the same dressing room. Which, honestly, when
Speaker 1: you put two people that are so so so close
Speaker 1: in a high stake situation like that, we were pretty good.
Speaker 1: But I'll never forget because this this week they did
Speaker 1: a sketch of you as the choking victim on the thing.
Speaker 1: So you were doing the choking victims and we were
Speaker 1: rehearsing our bits and so the whole there was like
Speaker 1: a period of where you were just practicing. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting next to you, like, at what point
Speaker 1: do I like interrupt his process of like trying out
Speaker 1: different chokes to say that I can't focus? Oh no,
Speaker 1: but no, no, no, no, no, it was not. It
Speaker 1: ended up being only funny because I turned you and
Speaker 1: I was like, are you literally crazy? And you were
Speaker 1: like and you laughed and you were like what. I
Speaker 1: was like, I think that any of those chokes will work,
Speaker 1: you bitch. Oh my god, that's so funny. What a
Speaker 1: wacko moment. I can I share my memory of that day? Yes,
Speaker 1: and of you and me in that dressing room. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. I was getting super into meditation at the
Speaker 1: time as as a way to as a way to
Speaker 1: sort of deal with the nerves, because and I have
Speaker 1: this weird superstition now where I have to meditate every
Speaker 1: Saturday U and I think it helps. I didn't know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I meditated every Saturday like at like five pm um
Speaker 1: and then just like ten minutes. But then I was
Speaker 1: But then I remember my first time I went in
Speaker 1: like to Shear, I like emails to Sheer. I was like,
Speaker 1: do you have any tips? And She's so perfect and
Speaker 1: nice and so so so informed, like just helpful, and
Speaker 1: she was like, if you don't have them already in
Speaker 1: in a pair of I can always canceling headphones. I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, great. She's like, you will be like
Speaker 1: hearing people running their running their auditions in the next room.
Speaker 1: It's gonna drive you crazy. And I was like great.
Speaker 1: And then I and then I meditated to like a
Speaker 1: focus oriented meditation and then kept it going like that
Speaker 1: was my superstition. I was like, well, the thing that's
Speaker 1: seen me through all this is like I've meditated before
Speaker 1: going up on stage for those auditions. And then when
Speaker 1: we were together in that dressing room, I was just
Speaker 1: trying to practice like feeling my feet and like feeling
Speaker 1: like my body and like just having an awareness of
Speaker 1: like where I was and whatever this mindfulness bullshit. And
Speaker 1: then you were just pacing around the room. And then
Speaker 1: I was like I was like like I was like, man,
Speaker 1: maybe like try I might not have I might have
Speaker 1: been a bit about it, but I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, you should like tried it and like maybe
Speaker 1: like breathe or like feel your feet, like stand in
Speaker 1: one place, feel your feet, feel like do a body scan,
Speaker 1: like see how you feel. And you were like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm a patient. This is this is this is my process.
Speaker 1: This is how I work. Like okay, okay, you should
Speaker 1: honestly like put our assences into the on space perfect.
Speaker 1: I can't believe they put us in the same room.
Speaker 1: It was so funny, honestly, but wow. And then I
Speaker 1: remember like when it went the way it went like
Speaker 1: that was um, it was like it wasn't It was
Speaker 1: truly like I don't know. I almost don't even know
Speaker 1: how to start my feelings out about it at that
Speaker 1: time because it was like there was a three week
Speaker 1: period of just true depression like where where it was
Speaker 1: like I know, it's important that I feel this because
Speaker 1: I felt like the it's and this is still at
Speaker 1: the time when it's like not getting it as only
Speaker 1: a failure and you know what that's like, of course,
Speaker 1: because you had tested twice the year before. So then
Speaker 1: like that feeling of just true depression and then like
Speaker 1: coming out of it, like I don't even know how
Speaker 1: to described it was if it does it feel a
Speaker 1: few gate it feels like it was a full feel.
Speaker 1: This is crazy to say, and I know it's not true,
Speaker 1: but it feels like nothing will ever really upset me again.
Speaker 1: That's probably that much because I've I've been to the
Speaker 1: place where I physically let myself get as low as
Speaker 1: I could get, like it was so much emotional energy
Speaker 1: invested in something that situation is not for everyone, not
Speaker 1: for everyone, and I think I'm kind of a brick house.
Speaker 1: When that decision came down and I figured out what
Speaker 1: was happening it, I felt the blood leave my legs.
Speaker 1: I had to lay down for truly three weeks. It
Speaker 1: was just and that's when I realized it was emotional
Speaker 1: energy that I had been storing up for like ten years,
Speaker 1: but it's all waiting for that I was gonna I
Speaker 1: was gonna say like your whole fucking life, honestly, probably
Speaker 1: because that was it was always the cultural thing. And
Speaker 1: now I can say, like after not getting it, and
Speaker 1: I am, and I am, I'm so happy that you're
Speaker 1: there and so happy the studio is there. I'm actually
Speaker 1: really happy. I'm not. Yeah, I'm really happy. I'm not.
Speaker 1: That's that's great, that's great. Actually, that's really cool. Are
Speaker 1: you patronizing? It's like because I think i'd I think
Speaker 1: i'd rather just be doing the stuff I'm doing and
Speaker 1: seeing where it goes because the routine is not really yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. A routine will always A
Speaker 1: routine will always end up sort of flipping over and
Speaker 1: you're going to see the underbelly of chaos the whole time.
Speaker 1: A routine is never routine is an illusion of of
Speaker 1: orderliness because it's actually everything is always going to be chaotic,
Speaker 1: like truly, like this week was fucking chaos for me.
Speaker 1: It seems like that. I think maybe that's what I'm
Speaker 1: reacting to, is just I'm someone who does well for
Speaker 1: better s with just validation. Yeah, and that is not
Speaker 1: the place where no, baby, but you enjoy being a
Speaker 1: cast member more than the writer. Yes they do. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: but then it just makes me admire the writing even
Speaker 1: I just make you admire, like that they have the
Speaker 1: hardest job. They have the hardest job, and I think
Speaker 1: in some ways they are the most valued people there,
Speaker 1: like they truly that that show does not work without
Speaker 1: well you know, but like but it makes me think
Speaker 1: about like the turnover, like the like choosing who gets
Speaker 1: brought on your your your year on the staff for
Speaker 1: writing a huge deal, like such a painstaking process that
Speaker 1: they because because if like because you've got to like
Speaker 1: build up the next Yeah, yeah, of course, because if
Speaker 1: you know one is everyone matters, even if even even
Speaker 1: if you're there and you don't think that you matter.
Speaker 1: That's with across the board. Yes, like when we were
Speaker 1: I was putting together game show, like hiring everyone so important,
Speaker 1: so important. Did you enjoy it? Did I enjoy the
Speaker 1: hiring process? Yes? Did I enjoy like show running it?
Speaker 1: Nothing it or like because Jennet Evannelos being the executive
Speaker 1: producer is you have a million little fights a day
Speaker 1: about this, this, that the other thing, and it's yes,
Speaker 1: but then it's like it's it's so well with someone
Speaker 1: like Dave Dave is a good partner for me for
Speaker 1: that show because he is so aware of, you know,
Speaker 1: the way things should look and feel and like the
Speaker 1: way they should take, how much time things should take,
Speaker 1: and he's very good expressing his opinions, like very in
Speaker 1: a very concise way. We actually have a very good
Speaker 1: work dynamics because we're we're good that different things, but
Speaker 1: we have opinions on everything that so it's like we
Speaker 1: can see what each other needs. And it's not perfect, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, like we definitely had it doesn't have bad moments,
Speaker 1: but perfection has ever rated. Oh yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 1: I don't I think if it had gone perfectly, I
Speaker 1: would be like it's wait a minute, yeah, and at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like I'm really proud of
Speaker 1: what it is. If I if I was sitting here
Speaker 1: not proud of what it is, or if I didn't
Speaker 1: know what it was going to be, I'd be like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Stay tuned. But I
Speaker 1: really do hope people download that goddamn app. They will, bitch,
Speaker 1: I'll do a damn push. I have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with that. Nothing. Well, you are in it, I'm in it, yes,
Speaker 1: But I'm not getting the quimpy paychecks. I'm getting the wait,
Speaker 1: what was your LLC? I gotta geo Galoha production galo LLC, galo, Hello, goodbye?
Speaker 1: What's a hollow? I don't I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know her read a Hayworth? We did? We we do.
Speaker 1: It's like every episode we say a different love that,
Speaker 1: it's a different greeting. Like Camilla Cobellia was like, how
Speaker 1: is your family? It's such a good bet THO. I think, um, oh,
Speaker 1: there's I won't give it away, but um yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a good one in my episode two. I won't give
Speaker 1: it away either. I believe it was. I believe I
Speaker 1: could just give it away, but no. That's what I
Speaker 1: mean to say is like, you know, that really felt
Speaker 1: like the end of the road for me in like
Speaker 1: New York in so many ways, but there was, like
Speaker 1: there's so much good stuff that's happened after that, and
Speaker 1: I almost feel like in a different era of the
Speaker 1: podcast I would have been able to say and express
Speaker 1: what I was going through, but it's been so weird
Speaker 1: and hard to navigate. As we've gotten a little bit
Speaker 1: older and more doing this more, doing this more, um
Speaker 1: and we just But the thing with you is that
Speaker 1: there's ever been I don't think there's been like a
Speaker 1: stagnant period for you. You've always worked so so so hard,
Speaker 1: and it's and you're reaping the rewards of that constantly,
Speaker 1: and like the first thing, and you'll get things very
Speaker 1: soon that you don't even realize you're going to get.
Speaker 1: And like you are, You're the best. You're the best
Speaker 1: there is. You're the smartest, the funniest, like you no, no,
Speaker 1: And I'm going to cry now because you're you're the best.
Speaker 1: You're the best best, You're like there's no one who
Speaker 1: deserves more. And but like not to even like get
Speaker 1: caught up in success narrative, because that will always let
Speaker 1: you down every time. But you know it's not real,
Speaker 1: it's not real. But I look at you and I
Speaker 1: think it's just a perfect human being. Oh god, I
Speaker 1: was fully crying this morning thinking about even coming here too,
Speaker 1: and I was watching yourself, I was watching you, like
Speaker 1: it just makes me so proud of you to see
Speaker 1: you succeed on that show, not only because it's just
Speaker 1: like my best friend doing well on Saturday Night Live,
Speaker 1: but because like you know why, I mean, like like
Speaker 1: it's it's truly like against all odds situation in that
Speaker 1: like they would never have had a gay person on
Speaker 1: that show, they would have never had like an Asian
Speaker 1: person on that show. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like you know, it's just really nice to think that
Speaker 1: people are looking up to you. And I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1: And that's what I say when I say, like, I
Speaker 1: think it's different from you when you share stuff because
Speaker 1: people know or everyone that knows you knows that you
Speaker 1: come from such like a positive place, and I think that,
Speaker 1: like I mean, it just doesn't surprise me at all.
Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me at all, Like whenever, Like I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the fact that like my two best friends
Speaker 1: work at SNL. It's like, what am I supposed to
Speaker 1: be surprised? There literally two of the smartest people, funniest
Speaker 1: people ever, And like I could I could have I
Speaker 1: couldn't be surprised. I was like I can feel like
Speaker 1: what's going on there? I wish I was there sometimes,
Speaker 1: but like it's not surprised eyes, it's not like it
Speaker 1: things things were. When they see that there's talent out there,
Speaker 1: the best talent, they're going to scoop up that best talent.
Speaker 1: You better be damn sure, better be damn sure, It'll
Speaker 1: be absolute damn sure. Taking back Sunday you had, you
Speaker 1: had a fun like kick this week with fucking what
Speaker 1: Vanessa Hudgens. Basically, basically what we do is dance. So
Speaker 1: we were watching that video in the room I'm man
Speaker 1: and it's the most insane song basically you ready? Did
Speaker 1: you eat? Did you have the energy? Did you eat?
Speaker 1: Do you have the energy? So? Are you ready? Did
Speaker 1: you eat? Did you have an energy? Did you eat?
Speaker 1: Basically culture number seven? Did you eat? Do you have
Speaker 1: the energy? Energy? Honestly, it's so crazy that that's a song.
Speaker 1: It's so happy cray and also how huge the career
Speaker 1: of Vanessa Hudgens is. I'm so happy for her. She
Speaker 1: seems like good people. She seems like good people. I
Speaker 1: watched her manity fair like what I do in a day,
Speaker 1: you know, like that kind of like those like little videos.
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I'm so unsurprised to hear
Speaker 1: that she has one of those. She's like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: I just like drive into them with the lot on
Speaker 1: my in my little camera. She just drives like a
Speaker 1: very modest car it scenes. I like to play like podcasts,
Speaker 1: and you know, she's just like I really got a
Speaker 1: normal person. She books every musical on television. She is
Speaker 1: the Princess of the Princess, but she's the Christmas She's
Speaker 1: the New Christmas Movie pant Queen, Christmas Movie Queen. She's
Speaker 1: Stacy DiNovo and Princess Margaret. And in The New Princess
Speaker 1: Switch she plays a third character named bad Girl Fiona.
Speaker 1: There's a bad girl in town and her name is Fiona.
Speaker 1: Ten There's a bad girl and her name is Fiona,
Speaker 1: and she's played by Vanessa Hudgins. That's psychotic and genius
Speaker 1: and so funny that we're going to heighten this by
Speaker 1: figure put another one. And also they're not twins, they're
Speaker 1: identical strangers. They look alike, and so basically there's just
Speaker 1: another one who looks identical to them. But like if if,
Speaker 1: if it's supposed to represent like some duality of class
Speaker 1: or whatever, like, where is the third one fit in it?
Speaker 1: You haven't seen it yet. Basically, I think this woman
Speaker 1: thinks that feeling is like a bad girl slut, and
Speaker 1: that is its own class. So it's like there's Stacy
Speaker 1: DiNovo who's like a baker girl. She could bake in
Speaker 1: the kitchen with the best of them, Stacy. And then
Speaker 1: there's Princess Small Grits who's whom Belgrave, Yeah, the town
Speaker 1: that hosts the festival. And then there's a bad girl Fiona,
Speaker 1: who I hope comes in who I hope goes in
Speaker 1: there Vagina first, Toboggan style and says, give me that
Speaker 1: bakery good, absolutely tearing them down down. Well, wow, love
Speaker 1: Vanessa basically basically what we're gonna do Vanessa three, Basically
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. It's dan dumb, but basically basically, um, yes,
Speaker 1: Vanessa Hudgens is the queen and we can never forget
Speaker 1: her seminal contribution to j Lo's first act, of which
Speaker 1: was second act. What was she in? Second act? Oh?
Speaker 1: I know you told me this already. Yes, thank you
Speaker 1: that you find out that the Hodge is the daughter
Speaker 1: of j Lo. Now, speaking of the Hodge, have you
Speaker 1: been watching Disney Plus? I saw you've been become a
Speaker 1: fan of Encore, A huge fan of Encore. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen much else of the Disney Plus offering, but Encore,
Speaker 1: I say, I think it such a good reality show.
Speaker 1: Have you watched any of the Imagineering story I watched
Speaker 1: the first one, and Miss angela perfect narrator for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, she is the narre Tress. So what are they?
Speaker 1: So the first one was just like the beginning of
Speaker 1: disney Land in six parts. Yes, it goes all the
Speaker 1: way from the beginnings of his first ideas to have
Speaker 1: disney Land, which I loved found so fascinating, like it
Speaker 1: was gonna be like a huge failure and if it failed,
Speaker 1: and like Disney, he could to borrow so much money.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. So it's just so, so I
Speaker 1: did promptly when I moved to Los Angeles by an
Speaker 1: annual pass, which has already paid for itself. I have
Speaker 1: not changed at all, um, And so it's weird now
Speaker 1: to like go there and then watch this video of
Speaker 1: them like making the Jungle Cruise, but it and then
Speaker 1: it's still there. It's still like basically like what it is.
Speaker 1: Pretty much not a lot of Disneyland has changed. So
Speaker 1: it goes from part one, which is that, to part six,
Speaker 1: which ends with like the Future making Rise of the Resistance,
Speaker 1: which is great. You've been on No, I have to
Speaker 1: talk about this for a second. Because this is the
Speaker 1: park culture. This this is really full circle. I gotta
Speaker 1: say this episode with the whole with the first episode
Speaker 1: of the of the show, but the whole, the whole
Speaker 1: fucking run of it. But yeah, go listen. Star Wars
Speaker 1: Rise of the Resistance is now open at the Walt
Speaker 1: disney World Hollywood Studios and it's opening on January at
Speaker 1: disney Land, and it is experience that is over fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes long. You get into two different ride vehicles. The
Speaker 1: second ride vehicle has three different ride systems. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of like it's kind of like Mission Space a
Speaker 1: little bit. It's a little bit. It's a bitch, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what it is. It's a little bit Spider Man.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit Yes, Guardians of the Galaxy And
Speaker 1: it's a little bit yes what you said. So it's
Speaker 1: it's a drop, Guardians of Galaxy's drop. There is a
Speaker 1: drop in it. Wow. I love that. So basically the
Speaker 1: ride is you're in Galaxy's Edge the land and then
Speaker 1: you go and you're like in the Resistance, right, so
Speaker 1: so like Rai's like, come on, we have to go out,
Speaker 1: and so so basically, bbe it's like absolutely way to
Speaker 1: go and so you get in like a spaceship. Ostar
Speaker 1: is like, hey, yeah, come on. So you get on
Speaker 1: the spaceship. When you go up, this is the first
Speaker 1: ride vehicle. You get caught bitch by the first or
Speaker 1: by the first order by Mr Adams, So do by
Speaker 1: Ms Adam driver herself and Ms dom Hall Gleason, Miss
Speaker 1: Redhead Bill Weasley fish, I love that redhead Queen Queen
Speaker 1: being very mean in miss ride. So you the doors
Speaker 1: open up and then you walk out. I have not
Speaker 1: been on this, by the way, I just know the
Speaker 1: whole storyline. You walk out into a star destroyer. Wow.
Speaker 1: So there is like a what do you mean you
Speaker 1: just see a star bit You walk out onto the
Speaker 1: onto the space ship and you're in space and you
Speaker 1: see and you see absolute space. Then you go into
Speaker 1: a holding cell where kaylo Ren herself interrogates you with
Speaker 1: meme Queen, I mean queen, not Gwendolen, No bitch. Okay,
Speaker 1: she's not in it. She's not in it, oh man,
Speaker 1: because she actually passed away in the last job. That's right,
Speaker 1: she did die. So John Boyega survived though, yes, John
Speaker 1: is featured in the ride. He's like, we have to go. Now,
Speaker 1: that's a good John b Now do Kelly Marie. Kelly
Speaker 1: Marie's like this, I thought, this is the way that's
Speaker 1: really guys, this this submit this episode for something. So basically, anyway,
Speaker 1: what happens is you get caught by the First Order,
Speaker 1: and when they're going to like kill you or interrogate
Speaker 1: you to get information about the rebel base, you then
Speaker 1: get onto a ride system that escapes the Star Destroyer.
Speaker 1: So you essentially gets play out a situation which is
Speaker 1: like in a New Hope when they're leaving the Yes,
Speaker 1: it is peak. When he's long, when are you going
Speaker 1: to go? I'm going, Jared and I are going to
Speaker 1: January second to Disney World. That's right. I'm so jealous.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be so much fun. That's You're gonna be
Speaker 1: in heaven to find someone to date me who wants
Speaker 1: to buy an annual pass. That's really winning. I think,
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think you got a good one.
Speaker 1: He is a good one. He's a good one. I
Speaker 1: really really like him. And he was being really good
Speaker 1: today when I was spinning out, So that then that's huge,
Speaker 1: and like that's how you know, here's the thing. Stay
Speaker 1: with the person who is good with you when you
Speaker 1: are bad, when you are bad. Um, he seems to
Speaker 1: be traveling a lot, and are you well he's directing
Speaker 1: a movie right that he wrote. I can't say anything
Speaker 1: about it, but just as it to say, I want
Speaker 1: to ask does I want to say? Here's what I
Speaker 1: want to ask, is that are you? Is there is
Speaker 1: there like the bigin like are you dealing with the separation? Well? Um,
Speaker 1: I think we'll be fine. Like then that's huge if
Speaker 1: you can exist and not fucking further spin out because
Speaker 1: you're not with the person, huge deal. I think we'll
Speaker 1: be fine. I'm not super worried about it. Also, it's
Speaker 1: like you can get on a plane. You can actual
Speaker 1: number forty one, you can get on a plane. What's
Speaker 1: going on with your love life? Um? I was talking
Speaker 1: about this with Jordan Firstmen and Charles Rodgers by the
Speaker 1: Way to the to the Funniest People, the Craziest bitches.
Speaker 1: Charles is certifiably insane prankster my Saster. Yes, the coffee thing.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, if the last culture is the listeners, the readers,
Speaker 1: If you don't know about this coffee prank, the coffee
Speaker 1: pank is I think it's such a genius maniacal thing.
Speaker 1: Charles Rodder just got Game Show from the Search Party
Speaker 1: off this. He got us so good with the prank.
Speaker 1: It's too long, it's too long, but it's it's genius. Um.
Speaker 1: He's my sister Yang's favorite thing of all time, My
Speaker 1: Yang classic prankster first of all, prankster used to prank
Speaker 1: a lot back in the day. She loved it anyway.
Speaker 1: I told I told him that, but Charles was just like,
Speaker 1: you must be sucking a lot. I'm like, not really
Speaker 1: like nothing, like like nothing's really changed, Like the dial
Speaker 1: hasn't really changed. I'm okay with that. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: but now I just gotta be I just gotta think
Speaker 1: through that. I just have to like do little like
Speaker 1: litmus tests like all over the place with each guy.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I think you should zoned in on
Speaker 1: one crush. I've I've been trying. I've been doing that
Speaker 1: for the past like two weeks, and I can't tell,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's like yielded fruit in a way,
Speaker 1: but not even like yields yielded fruit in terms of
Speaker 1: like actual in terms of like manifesting and being like
Speaker 1: I have a crush on this guy and I'm going
Speaker 1: to pull him to me and then like gradually closer
Speaker 1: and closer and close and anyway, that's all say. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you. Have you no no, no, no you have
Speaker 1: you kiss? Damn sex? You are you saying? Are you
Speaker 1: saying this? This? This game? Give this fox sex? Um?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait why I'll kiss. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: more about it because it's actually kind of an insane
Speaker 1: thing and there's so many there's so much going on there.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'll tell you what I want to know.
Speaker 1: What do I know him? Yes? Is it a famous person?
Speaker 1: It's um no no, no, no, no no, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you about And it feels like I'm just thinking about
Speaker 1: it and I don't think it's going to happen. But
Speaker 1: I'm just in Harry style, no wish. Well, I must
Speaker 1: get rid of the toxic and this community must get
Speaker 1: rid of toxic community. Oh the fun thing happened? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I just have to be very publican
Speaker 1: say anytime you want to tag me and like a
Speaker 1: must get rid of toxic community, please be sure to
Speaker 1: tag Coolie because it was his idea. He came up
Speaker 1: with a lot of the good stuff. I was just
Speaker 1: his little clocky clock boy on the keyboard, just typing
Speaker 1: it out and making sure it's structurally it made sense
Speaker 1: actually real culture number tag. But last night after the show,
Speaker 1: you have people waiting outside thirty Rock after every show
Speaker 1: and then, um, I heard like I was walking through
Speaker 1: to my car and then I heard like a group
Speaker 1: of a group of people they were like one, two, three,
Speaker 1: need a real king who can handle all? And I allowed,
Speaker 1: and it's like that's cute. Yeah, it's cute. It's also
Speaker 1: so funny that I need a real king that can
Speaker 1: handle like taking on like the mantle of like people
Speaker 1: who just you did a young voice for like near
Speaker 1: a real king and get a handed all. They were
Speaker 1: all like these like teens that a real kid can
Speaker 1: handle a me did a really thing that can handle
Speaker 1: It's eight am and have to go to hell job
Speaker 1: at serially anyway, Oh, this is a fun bit of
Speaker 1: Trivia'll share you knew this, but that sketch was originally
Speaker 1: written for John Molaney last year. Um anyway, and then
Speaker 1: the brand was originally Nestle, but then they had bought
Speaker 1: ad space on the show, so it was a little
Speaker 1: bit of like a crazy thing. We're like, well, we
Speaker 1: can't like I think serially benefits from that. Ultimately, I
Speaker 1: absolutely think so, and I will be buying serilely products.
Speaker 1: Oh please, if you were to buy anything else, that
Speaker 1: would just be trifling, trifling. Um, I don't want this
Speaker 1: stand well, like all good things, it must, but we'll
Speaker 1: do I don't think so, honey, Yes, do you have one? Um?
Speaker 1: Not really do you have one? Mine was going to
Speaker 1: be a bombshell. I think you can still do that.
Speaker 1: I think they're they're this element of surprise with I
Speaker 1: don't think the honeyes is is overrated. If you want
Speaker 1: to do it, do it. I think people want it,
Speaker 1: all right, do you think do you think you think
Speaker 1: you want to go for it? Yeah? I want to
Speaker 1: do it. Okay, this is Matt rodgers Is. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, and it's time starts now. I don't
Speaker 1: think show honey, bomb schell. Okay, bitch, because Nicole came in.
Speaker 1: You did this on a damn vacation, all right, and
Speaker 1: we stand Nicole. But let me tell you something. If
Speaker 1: Charlie star On studied Megan Kelly for her performance, Nicole
Speaker 1: kim In studied the emoji that with that's looking down
Speaker 1: kind of sad. And guess what it was a thin
Speaker 1: sweater convention. Nicole came into this shot her apart in
Speaker 1: three or four days from a kitchen while Keith was
Speaker 1: on the road. Seconds. I don't think so, honey, bombshell
Speaker 1: because guess what bombshell? Watch one said everything I want
Speaker 1: to say about this, I don't think so. Um uh,
Speaker 1: basically that go off so bad. I'm so emotional today,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think you could have condensed the
Speaker 1: narrative and just made it a little bit more clear
Speaker 1: and streamline. That's my real eyes scout screen right or no,
Speaker 1: I have nothing, and that's one I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: put an emotional episode. I didn't come prepared with anything.
Speaker 1: I came up with my open heart. That's all you,
Speaker 1: that's all you can do. This has been the most
Speaker 1: This has been a very rod. You're gonna actually blow
Speaker 1: me away. No, this is I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Christmas trees your bullshit, and
Speaker 1: every day you fucking take up the damn sidewalks off
Speaker 1: New York City, bitch with your nettles, nettles shedding on
Speaker 1: the damn sidewalk into my apartment. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: And then it's a damn fire hazard. You're inviting a
Speaker 1: fire hazard into your heart, home, hearth, okay, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna string some lights around it, plug it in all night.
Speaker 1: You wake up to go to the bathroom, it's they're
Speaker 1: blasting into your eyes, and then you're gonna be up,
Speaker 1: and then your sleep hygienes offhen you're gonna be so
Speaker 1: shut up. And then I don't think the honey, Christmas trees,
Speaker 1: don't think so, hony. Wreaths, darling that let the pines be.
Speaker 1: Do not drag them in from the damn farm. Let
Speaker 1: the farms just to produce the trees. Let them purify
Speaker 1: the air and taking the oxygen or taking the carbon monoxide,
Speaker 1: push out the oxygen. That's what trees are meant to do.
Speaker 1: And not decorate your room Christmas trees. You ain't secular,
Speaker 1: you ain't religious, you ain't shit. And that's one minute bullshit, Chris. Wow,
Speaker 1: you fucking tore them down. Trees, Trees. I have another one.
Speaker 1: I want to do another one because my first one,
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers second think. So any times starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey, Christmas sweater. I don't think
Speaker 1: so many Christmas sweater too big, too warm, too much.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, Christmas sweater party that is ugly.
Speaker 1: Guess what I want to wear? A nice thing. I
Speaker 1: make a dollars on dollars, and I don't go out
Speaker 1: here trying to find something hidios so I can come
Speaker 1: to your party at your home and be too hot.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, Christmas sweater because often you
Speaker 1: only get worn in December, and then what for me
Speaker 1: in January, February, March. I don't think, so honey, the
Speaker 1: Christmas sweaters that are the most warm, and you wear
Speaker 1: them in December, which is not one of the colder months.
Speaker 1: It's it's February, it's sometimes March. I don't think, so honey.
Speaker 1: These designs on the switter of a reindeer, of a
Speaker 1: snowman get new, I p. I don't think, so honey.
Speaker 1: You trash one minute, one of your best, one of
Speaker 1: your best. I knew I needed to come back and
Speaker 1: do it. Oh my god, first imagry. I feel like
Speaker 1: I should do one, but I know you do. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll do a bad one. You do a bad, half
Speaker 1: hearted take on a movie this second, I don't so, honey,
Speaker 1: his time starts now. I don't think so honey. Fucking
Speaker 1: Joe Shoe Rabbit. That kid, well, it wasn't clear if
Speaker 1: he was actually hallucinating Hitler or not. Tyker Tyker. I
Speaker 1: loved as Hitler. I loved the directing, but you know
Speaker 1: it was sad. I didn't want the mom to die.
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, Did you did I spoil it for you?
Speaker 1: You know I didn't. I don't want to see Scarlett
Speaker 1: Johanson die. You're spoiling it for everyone else. Scarlett Johanson
Speaker 1: better not die. You see her die, you see her
Speaker 1: get hung. He liked. I can't say. It's really sad,
Speaker 1: and Scarlett really does a good job of like making
Speaker 1: you like like that mother a lot second and you
Speaker 1: know what, I just I do think, so, honey, Scarlett Joe.
Speaker 1: I like her to I like her. She's cool. She
Speaker 1: was asking me a lot of like personal class gin
Speaker 1: that she was asking like everyone. I ran into her
Speaker 1: makeup people and some of them Asian, and they were
Speaker 1: all like, they were like, great job to know. It's
Speaker 1: like thank you. I was like it was so fun
Speaker 1: to work with her, and they were like, she's like
Speaker 1: one of the most easy going, like low maintenance people
Speaker 1: we work we work with, and like she's just like
Speaker 1: a chill who So who are these makeup people? They
Speaker 1: work with a bunch of people, I guess I'm sure
Speaker 1: like they've worked. They're like they're like on different people
Speaker 1: and like like they've landed on her and they just
Speaker 1: seem like happy and chill and cool. They're a good crew.
Speaker 1: They're a good crew. It's like like depending on the host,
Speaker 1: like some of these some of these entourages are maniacal.
Speaker 1: But she just had like a good like energy about
Speaker 1: the whole week. It was the j Lo vibe, good
Speaker 1: j LEVI was great. I gotta say, she's got two
Speaker 1: whole I probably can't talk. She's got two whole suitcases
Speaker 1: full of hair. And I think that's diva energy, iconic
Speaker 1: and I love we stand, we stand. Um. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: thing on Joji Rabbitt was turned into turned into a
Speaker 1: scarlet hands. It is cool and also spoiler fest spoiler.
Speaker 1: We'll put a little spoiler alert in the beginning of
Speaker 1: that episode. Sure, sure, anyway, anyway, it feels very surreal
Speaker 1: it's very surreal to be moving on to another network.
Speaker 1: Like I said in the beginning of the podcast, Um,
Speaker 1: but again, we just want to stress and say the
Speaker 1: biggest thank you too, forever Dog, to Joe and Alex
Speaker 1: and Emma HB, thank you so much. You have been
Speaker 1: such an amazing part of our show. And we feel
Speaker 1: like that really was like one of the hardest things
Speaker 1: was knowing that you weren't going to produce us anymore so,
Speaker 1: which feels crazy. It feels crazy, but we but just
Speaker 1: when we talk, when we hopped on the phone with
Speaker 1: Joe and Alex, you came up and it was just this,
Speaker 1: it's really really really sad, true love fest, true let
Speaker 1: and we had dore you and thank you so much
Speaker 1: for everything. Thank you for everything, Thank you for putting
Speaker 1: up with our crazy, crazy crazy what's that okay? All right? Well?
Speaker 1: Um well well, well, I mean and we said this
Speaker 1: on the phone to Joe Alex, but I don't know
Speaker 1: what my career would have been like without this. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know either. And you can make the argument,
Speaker 1: you can make the argument that it like gave us
Speaker 1: a career and like made people familiar with what we
Speaker 1: are about, and it was just to really really really
Speaker 1: really really really really really really important part of our lives.
Speaker 1: It's not I'm saying it was. It was a huge
Speaker 1: part of our lives and our sort of whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we should just say also, um, you guys, while
Speaker 1: we figure this out, there's going to be a hiatus,
Speaker 1: a little bit of hiatus. So it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: too long. It will be too long. One of our
Speaker 1: focuses is getting this up and running as soon as possible.
Speaker 1: And while the g of this episode might be a
Speaker 1: touch on the murreau side, we are going to be
Speaker 1: so excited to start again, and we hope and you
Speaker 1: guys don't have to do anything different because you just
Speaker 1: subscribe to us wherever. Um, so it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: like you have to change anything, which we probably should
Speaker 1: have said up top right. Um. But the most important
Speaker 1: thing and the biggest um thank you that Boonen and
Speaker 1: I have and want to say for the holidays or
Speaker 1: whatever until the next time we talk to you guys,
Speaker 1: is thank you to everyone that's listened, and thank you
Speaker 1: to everyone that's supporting Bowen and I that means the
Speaker 1: world to us and who writes reviews and says that
Speaker 1: you know, for a couple hours a day you laugh, um,
Speaker 1: and then we break up the day a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's just That's why I mean, the reason I ever
Speaker 1: want to do anything is because I love to make
Speaker 1: people laugh. And so that means the most to me
Speaker 1: that you say that, UM. And for me it's when
Speaker 1: it's when people just say that, it feels like they're
Speaker 1: talking to friends. And for you to feel that familiar
Speaker 1: with us, I think is so unbelievable, so nice, and
Speaker 1: all we can do is just do right about you guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we think we are um. So we will see
Speaker 1: you in the new year. We love you someone, We
Speaker 1: love you, And we've always been with the song, always
Speaker 1: with the song good good Bye to everything that you love,
Speaker 1: the one thing that I tried to hold on you,
Speaker 1: good Bye to ye, good Bye to everything that I did.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow my voice on the show you Hello.
Speaker 1: He's emotioning to me to mark one thing that chut.
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