1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I was talking about what happened with the 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Mets game at the end of the game. Michael Conforto 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: a walkoff hit by pitch, and what stood out not 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: only from the call that was missed, but the Mets 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: announcers disagreeing with the Umps call in the field. So 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: the Mets announcers Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez had this 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: reaction with the walkoff hit by pitch. This is a 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: strike and it gets hit. Look at that. Oh, you 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: can't do that. They have totally got it. Got to 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: bring it back, totally happen. They're gonna absolute that's gonna 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: buck his elbow right into that pitch. It's gonna be 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: strike three. Conferring and let's see. All right. So that 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: is a little bit longer explanation. Ron Darling, Keith Hernandez 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: former major leaguers. Keith is going to join us a 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: little bit later on in the show. Let me start 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: there with Mike Terico, who joins us from Augusta. We've 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: been talking about Conforto leans in on the pitch. What 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: did you make of that, Mike? So I always wondered 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: when I did the NBA games, and they I thought 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: did a good job of using replay. I always thought, 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: when you go to replay and you see that you're 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: screwed up a call, how do you feel right? And 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: that's exactly the case. And I just saw the clip 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: of it on social media, so I didn't see the 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: entirety of it, But what Keith r Nandez and Ron 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Darling and Gary Cohen were saying is exactly right. If 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: you can go to replay, get it right, that's what 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: we all want. At the end of the day. It 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: seems as though replay and every sport has gotten so 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: involved that it's lost any common sensibility to be applied. 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: And there you say, yeah, okay, we're not supposed to 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: look at that, but you know what, he moves his 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: elbow in to strike strike out. Let's move on common sense. 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: It would be nice if we could apply some common 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: sense to stuff a little bit more these days. But 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: I was also wondering that the umpire can only do 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: so much because of what the rule is that they 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: can't right. They can't rule on intent that they know 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: they made the wrong call because he did lean in, 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: but they don't have the authority to be able to 42 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: overturn that. That's the problem once. And here's where I 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: think you can maybe use this a little bit better 44 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: because it's not the official right there looking at the 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: replay making the decision. It's going back to the global headquarters, 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: right or it's going back to MLB. MLB can make 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: that decision. You're right there, so expect it adds elasticity 48 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: to the powers of replay. The league office can say, Okay, 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: I know that we didn't have line seventy three addendum 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: B to replay when the guy puts his armor in 51 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: the strike zone, but let's make sense of this and 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: this is the right thing to do. And you know what, 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the Mets may have 54 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: said it doesn't go with line seventy three note B, 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: but it's the right thing. Because you could see his 56 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: postgame sound bite was pretty good. He totally looked like 57 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: the canary. He eat the canary there, He's just kind 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: of yeah, yeah, I kind of leaned in a little bit. 59 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: But do you respect him for doing that? Yes, a 60 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: thousand percent. Okay for saying it or for doing it. No, 61 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: for doing it. For doing it. I hate the fact 62 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: that the guys something this with Bonds right years ago. 63 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: It's different. You can crowd the plate in a different 64 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: way than guys used to. I don't like all that 65 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: body armor for batters, but that ship has long tail. 66 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: We were talking to Mike Tarico joining us from Augusta. 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: The course play tough intentionally yesterday. I think that there's 68 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: two things. It's not really the twenty under par was November. 69 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: We're not going to let that happen again. I think 70 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: the ufs opened for a long time, had lived with 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: we've got to get a score somewhere around even par. 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that's been the case with the Masters 73 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: that you've been here so many times thinking about Sundays. 74 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: They want those eagle opportunities and those roars what's made 75 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: the Master's special, so they're not allergic to great scoring. 76 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: I do think that there's been a desire over the 77 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: years to keep the distance in check and look it 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: fast and firm, and what it did to the guys 79 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: who hit it a long way. There were struggles for 80 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: a lot of them on day one. So I think 81 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: the defense is remaining, of course, especially this one, to 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: keep relevant and where about it. Felfair Justin Rose had 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: an eleven hole stretch where he went nine under. So 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: it was not us open impossible. It was playable for 85 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: great scores and a great day and Justin Rose eleven 86 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: great holes. How great is de Shambo for TV? I 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: think he's great for the sport, which in turn is 88 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: great for TV. So I want to go back to 89 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: Bay Hill, the Arnold Palmer Tournament and the sixth hole 90 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: where he's trying to drive it over the water three 91 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards right, that scene of people with 92 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: their cameras videotaping it and the guy who's like five 93 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: sixty poor lady. I don't know who it was, but 94 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: that scene where you get all the arms, it looked 95 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: like a rock concert, right, and its yeah, I did 96 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: it right. I think that's great. So I thought we 97 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: talked about this a lot when we were working together. 98 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: When Tiger showed up on the scene, we all thought 99 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: it would bring minorities to the game. I think what 100 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: it did was bring athletes to the game, and it 101 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: brought casual golf fans to the TV dan. I think 102 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: because anytime Tiger got over a shot, he might do 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: something that you'll talk about for a long time, like 104 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: nobody was saying, I've got to watch the Canadian Open 105 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: because when Tiger gets to the bunker, he may hit 106 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: this six shot out of a bunker over water and 107 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: landed this close right the shandle's the same kind of thing. 108 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: He's sprained it all over Augusta. But I can't wait 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: to watch. Where is he going to drive it on thirteen? 110 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: Is he gonna take it over the trees and the left? 111 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: Is he gonna go down where the hatrons are on fourteen? 112 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: So I think that element is sensational for the sport. 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: There's a curiosity, but it's got to be have a payoff. 114 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: It feels like with Tiger, you are watching something that 115 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: was going to inevitably have a payoff where he was 116 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: going to win. Deshambo is a curiosity to me until he, 117 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: you know, he starts winning on a consistent basis where 118 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: he's you know, Keepka, you know Brooks Keepka is a 119 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: better golfer than Deshambo. But Deshambo is more of a 120 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: curiosity here. But Deshambo did win a US Open at 121 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: a really tough course in wingfoot, right, so I think 122 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: that plus backed up with wind. Look, he's one Arnold's tournament, 123 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: He's won Jack's tournament at the Memorial, he won the 124 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: US Amateur. So it's not as though it's all the 125 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: circus show. These played great golf, difficult golf course is 126 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: tough events to win. So I think there's a lot 127 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: of curiosity, but I do think there's enough there that 128 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: it's not just a side show. I think it's really 129 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: effective Dan, I really I spent some time with him 130 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: in the fall. I think he's as fascinating an athlete, 131 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: not just a golfer athlete, as we have in sports, 132 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: because of his approach and you talk to him and 133 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: it seems like a little mad scientist, but he's thought 134 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: it all out and he's processed and and he's got 135 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: a plan, and I just like that it's unique and 136 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: he's willing to be the salmon. He's willing to swim 137 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: upstream and do this in a different ways. Well, I 138 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: liken him to Elon Musk. I think that there's something 139 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: about his approach where you go. I don't know that 140 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, but we've seen Elon Musk is a billionaire 141 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: and has proven everybody wrong, and maybe De Shambo does 142 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: that and you bring up valid points with you know, 143 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: he did win at Wingfoot, which is a tough tough 144 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: course to win on. Were you guys hanging out in 145 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: the weight room, were you spotting him while he was 146 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: lifting weights protein shakes? I was protein for him on 147 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: a regular basis. I'm the shake man. Know. Just just 148 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: had to interview him and talk to him, just spend 149 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: a little more time than just hay a quick below 150 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: on the range. And it was fascinating to see how 151 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: much he's thought about things. So I think of you 152 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: is kind of a Deshambo and Elon Muska. Go against 153 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: the grain, do things that others are not expecting, you 154 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: become a billionaire. I think you fit that category as well. 155 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: Maybe you should connect more with Bryson. Thank you, thank you. 156 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: I didn't want to say it. I'm glad that you 157 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: said it before I let you go. I've been to 158 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: Augusta a few times, but if somebody has never been there, like, 159 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: the first thing that is going to wow them is 160 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: what how beautiful it is, how there's not a piece 161 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: of trash or a weed growing, there's nothing wrong with 162 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: anything you see. And then there was someone here, a 163 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: co worker of mine. I took him down to the 164 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: ninth Fair where the crosswalk at nine, because you've seen 165 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: it many, many, many times on TV. But until you 166 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: go across that crosswalk and you're about twenty yards ahead 167 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: of where the players get their second shot, and you 168 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: look up and all you can see is the front 169 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: lobe of the green that doesn't hold any shots. That's 170 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: the one that just sticks with people that while the 171 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: elevation changes are out of this world, TV cannot and 172 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: does not do it justice. When they see that. Usually 173 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: the imprecation is wow, I never realized that. And those 174 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: things stick out of thing more than anything else. Yeah, 175 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: I think it's great when you go there in as 176 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: sensory overload. But the one thing that stood out was 177 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: when you walk that course, that's a workout, like you know, 178 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: you get get the feeling, well, it's in Augusta, Georgia. 179 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: It's got to be flat. There is so much elevation there. 180 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: That was the biggest surprise, Like that shot on eighteen 181 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: going up the hill, like you're going up, You're going 182 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: up a mountain there. It feels like at times. We 183 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: had a player in the Augusta National Women Damitor. She 184 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: was in the bunker. She jumped twice and her caddy, 185 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: who's her coach at University of Houston, said, aimed for 186 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: the top of the TV tower and she's like, I 187 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: can't see the top of the TV tower. It gives 188 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: you a st When you were here in the nineties 189 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: doing sports or stuff. Were you here with Jim Colbert 190 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: as one of your ant Yes, yes, I remember that. Gosh, 191 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: I remember that, Yes, yea. He would do the the 192 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: whatever that was, like, you know, he would be shooting, 193 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: he'd be shooting a gun or saying yeah and I 194 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: do that what he means when used to make a 195 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: birdie on the Champion. Yeah. The name came up randomly 196 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: when I was driving down Washington Road pass where you 197 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: guys used to do the show across from Augusta National. Yeah. 198 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: I think it was called the Double Eagle Club. Oh 199 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: it is, Oh gosh, yeah. I don't know if I 200 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: knew what I was doing back then, but you know, 201 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: I got to see. I was there when Faldo came 202 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: back and beat Norman and uh Rick. Riley had the 203 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: famous quote because I talked to him on Saturday and 204 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: I said, what do you think is going to happen? 205 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: He said, Greg Norman always finds the bananappeal. I'll never 206 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: forget that. And then years later got a chance to 207 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: sit down with Norman and we revisit that day and 208 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: what it meant to him and how it impacted him, 209 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: and you know, he and he was a professional in 210 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: looking back on it. He said, look, I beat myself. 211 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: Nick didn't beat me. I beat myself, but hey, I'm 212 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: the one that hit the shots. He was brutally honest 213 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: with himself. And that's what I love about this sport, 214 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: Like you will find guys who will just kind of 215 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: pour out their emotions and let you know exactly you 216 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: know how this felt like Jordan Spieth when he lost 217 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: the Masters at twelve, or Rory when he goes sideways. 218 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: You get into that press tent and it just feels 219 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: like it's a confessional for a lot of these guys. Well, Dan, 220 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: That's why I've loved my association with golf, and this 221 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: is now twenty four years since I started covering golf 222 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. What I love is that it's 223 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: you and your score in a perpetuity. There's no offensive 224 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: coordinator to blame for a bad play call. You can't 225 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: say the offensive mine was banged up and not protecting me. 226 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: It's just you. You know, you cadd He may hand 227 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: you a club, but you can say no. So that's 228 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: how I love about their honesty. It's refreshing calling rules 229 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: and fractions on yourself. It is a great game. You 230 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: have to remind yourself for that sometimes when you try, 231 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: when you try to play it like these guys do, 232 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: and you realize how how good even the lower guys 233 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: than the tour really are. Good to talk to you, 234 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: Mike has always have fun today. We appreciate your time. 235 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: Safe travels. Same here, mister Bud, look forward to suit. 236 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: It's Mike Tariko. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 237 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 238 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific 239 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 240 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or 241 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by 242 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: searching f s R, or stream us live on the 243 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: Peacock app. Let's bring in Tom e Current, the Patriots 244 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: insider working for NBC Sports Boston. Wow, you've got a 245 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: what kind of shirt you got on there today? Well, 246 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: I haven't yet gone to your website to pick up 247 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: the spare inventory. So I have a nice I thought. 248 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: Fritzie said, it's a loud golf shirt. Friday. Yeah, apparently 249 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: I've been duped. Did you tell him it's not loud golf? 250 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: I might let him down at the dark Path and 251 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: now we could all let kind of humiliate him and 252 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: laugh at him. You got catfish by Fritzie, not the first. No, Well, 253 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: we're glad to have you Tom. I don't know how 254 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: New England reacted to Peter Schreger's mock draft yesterday. Peter, 255 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: of course works for the NFL network, and he raised 256 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: some eyebrows saying the Patriots he had them moving up 257 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: to number four to take perhaps a quarterback justin Fields 258 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: unpatree at, Like, what did you make of that? Yeah, 259 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: it's on patriotic and I don't think that's going to happen. 260 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: When you look at the amount that San Francisco had 261 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: to pay to get up to number three, Patriots are 262 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: not going to be in the business. Have given the 263 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: fifteenth and then probably two more first rounders to go 264 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: up there and get a who I thought. Mike mmbardi 265 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: was really good on his podcast this week explaining why 266 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: the grades just won't justify it on a justin fields 267 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: or a tray lance. At those guys are the two remaining. 268 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: You can't just jump up there and then not have 269 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: the verbiage, as Lombardi explained it to say, Okay, he 270 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: grades at this level to be that level pick, he's 271 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: going to be one of the top ten players in 272 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: the league. He makes everyone around him better. He requires 273 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: more than one player to defend him and take him away. 274 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: I just still know the lamps and fields are going 275 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: to be those guys. How involved I guess Belichick getting 276 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: Does he ever get impatient? You know that they's kind 277 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: of seeing everybody. You know, Hey, guys are getting their quarterbacks. 278 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: So I don't really have my quarterback. We spent a 279 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: lot of money on free agents, but we still don't 280 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: have a rock solid quarterback. Is Bill getting more impatient 281 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: as he gets older? I don't think so. I mean, 282 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: he's been paralyzed since twenty seventeen at the position. They 283 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: traded Jimmy Garoppolo away and now all they've done kind 284 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: of chase Tom Brady out of town draft to any 285 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: uplink draft. Yard Stidham signed Cam Newton trade for Brian Hoyer. 286 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if he's impatient, he hasn't signaled it yet. Really, 287 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: I think Belichick is more hardwired on the draft to 288 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: kind of scoff the rest of the league when it 289 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: gets thirsty and try and be that guy who likes 290 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: to buy distressed assets. So, you know, sitting at fifteen, 291 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: I could see him jumping down Dee. But you can 292 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: do that when you have Tom Brady. But when you 293 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: don't have Tom Brady, then you can make moves. But 294 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: it still comes back to boy, imagine if they had 295 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: a really good quarterback. I think that there, however, is 296 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: some well founded confidence bordering on arrogance of what we 297 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: had a bad Rosco last year. We won seven games 298 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: with Cam. He didn't have an off season. We had 299 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: actual tight ends and wide receivers that the Patriots really 300 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: in build. I don't think really blames himself for not 301 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: staffing the rooms, but he ought to. But we had 302 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: all those players, and we get a bunch back on 303 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: defense and we're better there. You think we're not going 304 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: to win eleven games, you're out of your mind. We 305 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: can put anybody back there, and that to me is 306 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: an interesting aspect of the Patriots book. Yeah, maybe we 307 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: might have a duct tape, piants or a quarterback right now. 308 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: But we're good enough on Sundays and at other positions 309 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: to mitigate that issue that we absolutely do have. If 310 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback is there, one are the Patriots fifteenth? If 311 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback is there somehow do you think Bill takes 312 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback if he's just sitting there, If training lamps 313 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: is just sitting there, It's gonna be hard. It's got 314 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: to be hard. I mean when you think of all 315 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: the players that the Patriots have passed on in the 316 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: first rounds and later in rounds, second round picks. You know, 317 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was sitting there at thirty one. They took 318 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle. I understand why the Patriots might look at 319 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and say, look, he's got one indefensable skill 320 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: in terms of his speed and his electricity as a runner, 321 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: but we don't know how he projects. And well, Lamar 322 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: Jackson's been an MVP, so any Michelle is now going 323 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: to be a backup running back to Damian Harris. So 324 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: I think that they probably would pass and take a 325 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: better player who's been pushed down the board by all 326 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks and wide receivers. That's what I think they 327 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: would do, but I don't know if that's the right 328 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: thing to do. And then I wonder with the Niners 329 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: going all in on whoever they're going to take at 330 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: number three, then you've got Jimmy Garoppolo there, as you know, 331 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: in a lame duck season here, Yeah, does Bill? Is 332 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: there part of him that says, I don't need to 333 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: move up in the draft. I'm eventually going to be 334 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: trading for Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah. I think that he is 335 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: very much let the game come to him at the 336 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: quarterback position. I think that is really what they are 337 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: because if you look at Jimmy Garoppolo, what're Teddy Bridgewater? 338 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: Those guys to me are interchangeable. Yet Bridgewater is actually 339 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: more durable despite the catastrophic leggage or he had, and 340 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: he's eight million, always a year cheaper. So if you 341 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: trade for Teddy Bridgewater, which I don't think it's going 342 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: to happen in seventeen million, and I don't think that 343 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to trade for Garoppolo twenty five. 344 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: But I don't think garrop was going to take a 345 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: pay cut, so they're pinched in Dan. I would say, 346 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: it's sixty five seventy five percent likely you're going to 347 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: see either Cam Newton or Jared Stidham under center when 348 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: the season begins. They will add someone, but I don't 349 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: know if it's going to be anybody. We say, oh, 350 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,239 Speaker 1: that guy's definitely better than stidhaman Newton. We're talking to 351 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: Tom Kerran, the Patriots insider. Julian Edelman the knee situation 352 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: may not be able to play this upcoming season, which 353 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: might mark the end of Julian Edelman's career. Here, how 354 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: serious is this. It's serious in that it's not going 355 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: to be really fixable. You know he is last year. 356 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: The surgery he had was to get him back to 357 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: where he was in August and early September because it 358 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: worsen during the year. So he's going to answer the season. 359 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: Karen Region from the Boston reporting that it's unlikely he'll 360 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: play it the full season. And I think that most 361 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: of us would have taken the ender on Julian Edelman 362 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: at sixteen games anyway. But there will be a point 363 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: where he says, yeah, okay, I can definitely get open 364 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 1: within ten yards of the line of scrimmage, but can 365 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: I do anything to make people miss afterwards, can I 366 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: protect myself. It'll be interesting to see because I think 367 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: the NFL is going to have to be pride from 368 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: his cold dead NFL hand before he gives up. And 369 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: I also think that he is more loyal to the 370 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: Patriots than other people who would get sideways with Bill 371 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: and say I want to go someplace else. So I 372 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: would be surprised if he doesn't retire a Patriot. Yeah, 373 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: but I also don't think he's going to make a 374 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: decision before August. Before I let you go, we were 375 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: talking about this during the commercial break. Who's the most 376 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: beloved sports star in Boston or New England history history? Yeah, 377 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: I would say Greg Kite. Okay, that's that's why I 378 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: went with Uh. I don't know if I said Bird 379 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: or Brady, just those two. Who's more beloved? I think 380 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: Bird probably an or Bubby is probably the most beloved 381 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: because it's just it's a an aura around him. But 382 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: all of those guys, and yeah, probably Brady because there's 383 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: a lot of excuse me, probably Bird right now because 384 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: there's a lot of agitation about Brady's departure and the 385 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: success that he's had. Um Bird is pretty much bulletproof. 386 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: Russell I think is adored for what he did and 387 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: what he represents now. I don't think he was so 388 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: adored in the seventies and eighties. But yeah, well we're 389 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: free and lucky. I mean, when you compare Boston to 390 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: the other towns, maybe that's a good grabass story for 391 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: me on a Friday. Who's got the best array of 392 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: Rushmore athletes? Who? Who? Dan? Who? Well, we're gonna start. 393 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: Brady's gonna be up there, Bird's gonna be up there? 394 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: Is Bird over Bill Russell? Yeah, I think so. And 395 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: then you know you got or now you and your 396 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: baseball player is you got said Williams? Or or Poppy? 397 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: So it's a tough array. I mean, you put that 398 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: up against Colorado, you get John and Elway and Andres 399 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: Callaraga or Todd. Okay, but does Southern California? How do 400 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: you do Los Angeles here? Oh? Well, I mean, who 401 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: are you gonna go with in Southern California? I mean, well, basketball, 402 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: I got I got a variety of of guys to 403 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: pick from. Kareem nobody likes Kareem. Magic all right, magic, 404 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: um Kobe? All right, Kobe's probably stupid, but you're gonna 405 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: have to go multiple same sports. A you're gonna go 406 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: with the Kings. Gretzky. Oh hard timer, but he's still 407 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: that was a huge moment when he got traded from Edmonton. 408 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: It changed the NHL. All right, So Baseball, I got 409 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: Sandy Kofax. How's that? That's good? Yeah, that's really good. 410 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: Now football, Farigago Roman, Gabriel, Eric Dickinson. I guess yeah, 411 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: I could have I could have Eric in there. I 412 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna be able to find a 413 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: better amount rushmore than Boston's. What about New York? Well 414 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: about it. I'm just saying I got Babe Rue, I 415 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: got Babe hold on Home Slice, I got Joe Namath, 416 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: and I got Babe Ruth to start out with. Okay, 417 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: that's Joe Nameth, he from what Picks the Touchdowns? Man? Okay, 418 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor, Okay, that's better. Okay, So uh, Brady Well Frazier, 419 00:22:54,520 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: that's I mean not Mary Bird. Okay, I mean you 420 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: can you could try and appropriate Doc from being in 421 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: a New Jersey all right, right, maybe it's Boston, Okay 422 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: it is. Why are you so defensive? I'm just a 423 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: conversation parochial area. I got your proo creel right here. 424 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: Help Fritzi. Please not to do this to me again. 425 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 1: You everybody is laughing at you. Everybody ridiculous. And you 426 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: didn't buy that for this appearance. You own that well out, 427 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: But you did anybody ever tell you look like the 428 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: the actor Charles uh from Midnight Run with DeNiro. Charles, No, 429 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: I have a very malleable face. I've gotten I've gotten 430 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: a burns guy. I've gotten Drew breesed, I've been I've 431 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: been messied. Um, I've gotten Uhl Bundy. I could see 432 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: I could see Charles Croden Midnight Run with DeNiro. It 433 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: was a great, great performance, Yes it was. It's an 434 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: unbelievable I could see Drew Brees there. I see a 435 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: little bit of that, like Drew Brees with a really 436 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: ugly shirt on. I could see it. Yeah. Here you 437 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: know what? Dan? All right, Tom, thanks for joining us. 438 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys, thank too soon. That's Tom E. Curran. 439 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 440 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 441 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio Wapp. Keith Hernandez, 442 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: the Mets color analyst for Sports New York s n 443 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: Y and uh former batting champ. A little controversy yesterday 444 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: Michael confordo leaned into a pitch bases loaded ninth inning, 445 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: a walk off hit by pitch, and Keith kind enough 446 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: to join us walk me through that at bat Keith, 447 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: how it started and then how it ended. Well, there 448 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: was two strikes bases loaded. Obviously, I forget the count. 449 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: It might have one, two. Um, the pitch was clearly 450 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: going to be a strike. I did not see. I 451 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: think Gary Cohen are a play by play guy. Are 452 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: Ron Darling? Are my other analysts in the booth saw 453 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: the umpire raising a right hand to make called third strike? Okay, 454 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: I notice because I'm watching Confardo move his elbow in 455 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: at the last minute. You can't do that. That's not 456 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: that's not legal, and it should have been a strike three. 457 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: Now the rule I got sent by the Baseball Academy 458 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: this morning. I'll read you the rule, but it doesn't stay. 459 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: It's a little ambig It's not. It's not ambigo. It's 460 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: just right to the point. If the ball is in 461 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: the strike zone when it touches the batter, it shall 462 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: be called a strike whether or not the BA tries 463 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: to avoid the ball if the batter, if the ball 464 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: is outside the strike zone when it touches the batter, 465 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: it shall be called a ball if he makes no 466 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: attempt to avoid being touched. But what it doesn't say 467 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: is what's the rule about a hitter going in intentionally 468 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: to get hit, whether it's out of the strike zone 469 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: or in the strike zone. The pitch was a strike, 470 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: so by the rule it clearly should have been a 471 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: strike three. But besides the point, the big point is 472 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: you allow all these players with this armor on their elbow. 473 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: You know, I got hit in my elbow. It's no 474 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: fun and it hurts there, and you better put ice 475 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: on it quick or it's gonna balloon up and you're 476 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna miss a couple of games. Fortunately I had run 477 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: hunt As when I was nineteen years old in my 478 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: first big league camp. He was my roommate and he 479 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: taught me the iceid for twenty four hours overnight after 480 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: you got hit on a joint, so you will so 481 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: you'll play the next day. But with the armor, you're 482 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: allowing a lot of hitters. And I see it. They 483 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: don't move moving. It's very rare you see someone moving 484 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: to the ball, but they don't move, so the ball's 485 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: inside six and seven inches. They don't attempt to get 486 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: out of the way, and that's perfectly legal not to move, 487 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: but you cannot intentionally go in to get hit by 488 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: a pitch. And it was very clear on the on 489 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: the replay. Now the second of base umpire has the 490 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: view too, has a has has a good view the 491 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: opposite view of the home plate umpire. He could have overruled. Now, 492 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: I thought Gary Cole made a great call because we 493 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: got a list of calls that can be challengeable and 494 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: what calls can be Gary knew right away that a 495 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: hit by pitch is challengeable, but that wasn't the call. 496 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: Challenge manningly can challenge he got hit by a pitch, 497 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: but you can't. It's an umpire's judgment where the ball 498 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: the hitter moved deliberately to get hit, but it was 499 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: apparent the pitch was a strike, and so the umpire 500 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: behind the plate run Colpa blew the call. He was 501 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: raising his right arm to call it a strike. Then 502 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: by the rule we just read that's strike three. Do 503 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: you have a problem with what Conforto did? Yes, I do. 504 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I think, um, you were just talking about 505 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: back at our day, but he's helping his team win, though, 506 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: Keith like, whatever it takes, I don't. I don't have 507 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: any problem with it because it's up to the umpire 508 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: to police the game. Guys cheat all the time, I understand, 509 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: So I don't the umpire blew the call that would 510 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: upset a lot of people on the opposing team. And 511 00:28:51,880 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see Saturday how this unfolds and 512 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Conforto gets up the first time. I don't think anything's 513 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: gonna happen, but I know that Steve Carlton told me 514 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: a great story about Ron Hunt, and you know, he 515 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: got hit all he had the body armor. And Carlton said, 516 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: I was winning five six nothing in the in the 517 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: eighth inning and Hunt was leading off, and he said, 518 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: I know he's gonna foul off eight pitches, so I 519 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: just hit him on the first pitch and let him 520 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: go to first base. But I didn't so I didn't 521 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: spend any bullets, which I thought was just hilarious. Yeah. So, 522 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: because Ron got hit over two hundred times in his career, 523 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: he was the all time leader. Did Bigio end up 524 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: passing him. I don't know. I don't know. Don Baylor 525 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: was up there too. Don got hit a lot also, 526 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: and there was no body armor in those days for 527 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: for Don. So, uh So, anyway, are you okay if 528 00:29:54,560 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: the Marlins hit Conforto on Saturday? And okay with it? Yeah? 529 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: I would be okay with it. And we'll see if 530 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: there's a brawl, you know, I don't know. I'm sure 531 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: umpires will I don't. I don't know how it's going 532 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: to happen. I just don't think it's going to happen 533 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: in today's game. I don't think it's going to happen. 534 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: It was wild yesterday because I'm watching it and I'm 535 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: going and I was right there with you and Ron. 536 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know what the rule was. I thought, well, 537 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: just check replay and then you can only check replay 538 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: to see if he got hit. But you know, Ron 539 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: had already Culp had already made his call, so I well, 540 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: he could have been overruled the second base umpire or 541 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: the first But how much time had to elapse though 542 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: Keith before he could do it? Because the message they conferred, yah, 543 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: and the first base umpire is not going to have 544 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: a view because Conforto's back to him, second base has 545 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: the best view and third base could have made the 546 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: call as well. But I just think umpires are regulated 547 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: so much, and I think that to me, they're looking 548 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: over their shoulders so much that they are are are 549 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: petrified sometimes to make a call because they're being observed. Uh. 550 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: And cat Keith Hodgi is the neck um. He's a 551 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: main he loves seafood, he loves right so UM. I 552 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: just think it was one time in my career where 553 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: we had a lot of good umpires in the National League, 554 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: but we had a handful of bad ones, and they 555 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: took a poll and the pole the league decided to 556 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: take a pole the players, coaches and managers and rate 557 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: the umpires. Now, you could have a player or a 558 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: manager or a coach that has a grudge against a 559 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: certain umpire, but when you have over nine hundred players, 560 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get a a fair assessment of 561 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: a rating of the umpires. And like any business, there 562 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: are if you have an incompetent employee, you get rid 563 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: of them. Higher competent umpires and I think there's a 564 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: lot of them out there, but there's always a scattering 565 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: of bad ones, we weed them out. And I also 566 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: feel that you need umpires have got to be have 567 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: the courage of their convictions. And I think with the 568 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: today's game, with the challenges and the instant replay number one, 569 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: it's a crutch for the umpires. You know, if I'm 570 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: doing my job, I don't want to be overruled. I'd 571 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: be embarrassed if I made a bad call and consistently, 572 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: I would be embarrassed by that, and I would step 573 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: it up, you know, and step up my performance. But 574 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: I think it becomes a crutch where the umpires, we 575 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: see it. I just kind of seem getting lazy and said, 576 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: well I get it wrong, blah blah blah, and I 577 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: don't I don't like that. I don't like challenges too, 578 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: because it we're trying to speed up the game, and 579 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: it's games become a game of bullpens. And that's why 580 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: the game has become so long. And you've got eight 581 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: guys out in bullpens, and you cannot give me eight 582 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: eight guys that just pet them, pegging me. You can't 583 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: give me eight guys. You can't give me eight guys 584 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: that are all going to be great relievers. There's gonna 585 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: be some saft spots, and there's a lot of guys 586 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: that throw hard, that don't have command, and a lot 587 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: of three two counts. And I understand why the games 588 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: become a bullpen game, and that's why the games are 589 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: longer because of the pitching changes. So who wants to 590 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: have the challenge? I mean, how many I can tell 591 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: you how many games Dan were. It's the final play 592 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: at the plate and the runners safe and everybody's and 593 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: it's challenged, and you gotta wait what three four minutes 594 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: for the game to be officially over. I just hate 595 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: that it used to be instant replay, remember when we 596 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: were growing up. Now it's just replay because it takes 597 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: forever with replay. We're talking to Keith Hernandez and his dog, 598 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: his dog, his cat, Hodgi. Hodgie is needy man. He 599 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: is one of the He's like a dog. You guys 600 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: have the same kind of hair color. By the way, hey, 601 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: I was talking to Jeff Perlman and he wrote a 602 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: book on the eighty six mats. He wrote a book 603 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: on Showtime Lakers. Showtime Lakers going to HBO and they're 604 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: gonna make a series out of it. Do you think 605 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: that they would ever do, uh like a mid eighties Mets, 606 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, kind of series like TV series, Oh, a 607 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: TV series? Yeah, God, I don't know. I know that 608 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: ESPN is gonna did a bit of digit did a 609 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: big is doing a big documentary on the eighty six. 610 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: I was interviewed, uh two winters ago, and they're doing 611 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 1: a one of those, one of those a twenty twenty 612 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. They're gonna have a on the 613 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: eighty six Mets, which I'm kind of looking forward to. 614 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: But you could make a TV series out of the 615 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: eighty six minutes. You can do it on the Bronx 616 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: Zoo two in the seventies. Yeah, yeah, Well I wasn't 617 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: around the Bronx Zoo. I was around the eighty six Mets. 618 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: And man, you guys laid the league, are you Dan? 619 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: You're my age gonna be sixty five? Yeah, I'm only 620 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: two years older than you. Yeah. Yeah, we were around. 621 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: We were aware of what the Bronx Zoo was about. Yeah, 622 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: but but I wasn't around it. I was around you 623 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: guys like you can draw selso security now, how about 624 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 1: you look at you. I know, I know I'm getting 625 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: up there. I gotta get me a cat too. I 626 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: gotta yeah, sure, make that work here. The Mets continue 627 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: their series against the Marlins tomorrow City Field. Jacob deGrom, Oh, no, 628 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna go probably six quality innings, give up one run, 629 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: four hits, no decision, or lose the game. Keith, Well, 630 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: it's incredible that he doesn't get a lot of runs. 631 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: And it's been kind of when I was a kid 632 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: growing up when San Francisco it was gay Lord Perry. 633 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: Gay Lord Perry was the hard luck pitcher for the Giants. 634 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: I always lose two to one, three to two, lose 635 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: those close games. And de Graham was taking it to 636 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: a new level. I think a lot of it was 637 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: had to do with the COVID outbreak on the Nationals. 638 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: He was supposed to pitch the real opening day and 639 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: he got put back and they didn't know if they 640 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: were going to play the next day or the next day, 641 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: so he couldn't do his sideline. So they made a 642 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: decision on sit, not pitches, just six innings, and I disagree. 643 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: I you know, I missed the pitchers going nine innings, 644 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: but you get these guys. Nolan Ryan didn't get a 645 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: lot of support, and they said well, you know, players 646 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: got bored because it was either strikeout or a walk. 647 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: When Nolan was on the mound. Sid Fernandez it felt 648 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: like had a no hitter through five innings. Every time 649 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: I saw him pitch for the Mets. They're just certain 650 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: pitchers who don't get off. I don't know how you 651 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: explain it that they don't get on support. You know 652 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: what it was when we were on the road or 653 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 1: it was a getaway day, it was like we didn't 654 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: want Sid pitch. If you get away day. We wanted 655 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: to get Doc out there, get out air player, to 656 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: get to the next town. Sit was gonna take forever. Well, 657 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of he got a lot of 658 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: swings and misses. Oh he did. He got as many 659 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: swings and missus as anybody. I remember, if you look 660 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: at like per pitch, how many swings and missus sint 661 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: Fernandez got a ton of those. Man, Yes, he had. Well, 662 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: we had two hundred strikeouts, a lot of more than 663 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: a few times in his career. He was and he 664 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: was fun to watch pitch because he was just so unusual. 665 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: Is physique, it doesn't matter. That's the beauty of baseball. 666 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: I know. I look at Schilling. He had one of 667 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: the worst bodies and he was a great pitcher and 668 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: you got you know, we got. You don't have to 669 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: be six foot four or you can be like Freddie Pottek. 670 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: We're not We're not being contemporary here. Yeah. All the 671 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: players the day are six five and six six. I 672 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: mean they're just I'm six feet tall and I feel 673 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: like I am I'm dwarfed by them. Yeah. Yeah, Hey, 674 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you. Have fun, My best 675 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: to uh Ronnie and hopefully have a little bit of 676 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: drama on Saturday. Not too much drama on Saturday. Yep. 677 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: And we'll see and feed Hoji. Okay, I did, I'll 678 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: feed him again. That's pretty thank you. That's sorry, You'll 679 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: see keithern end Is. Thanks for listening to The Dan 680 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 681 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 682 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on 683 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on 684 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Let me start with this. I know 685 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: you're from Ohio and I'm from Ohio. I went to 686 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: the University of Dayton, so I wasn't smart enough to 687 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: get into the school you went in to University of 688 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: Miami of Ohio, like yourself, we are the Harvard of 689 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: the Midwest. Oh I know. I mean I don't mean 690 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: to brag about it or anything, but you know, you 691 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: go figure that you would brag about something there, miss, 692 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: I mean they did call it Jay Crew you. So 693 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: I mean any nicknames the Harvard of the Midwest and 694 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: Jay Crew you or the two that I always went by. 695 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: How close to this come to not even happening this career? 696 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: Honestly it came basically if I did not get on 697 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: the real world, I don't think any of this would 698 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: have been possible because I think getting on the real 699 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: world opened my mind to say, you know what, you 700 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: could do stuff and in the entertainment world, like I'm 701 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: from Parmel, Ohio. When you're from Parmer, Ohio, you know, 702 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: you go to college, you get it. After college, you 703 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: go back home, you get a job, you get a family, 704 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: and that's just due for the rest of your life. 705 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: And that's kind of the mode I was in, Like 706 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: I went to my while for business, not for entertainment, 707 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 1: not for theater, and so I yeah, I mean, if 708 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: I didn't get on the real world, I would not 709 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 1: be sitting here. I'd probably be working at my dad's. 710 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: Mister Hero, How do you find your personality in wrestling? 711 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: I think it's time. I think it's confidence. I think 712 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: it's finding your voice. I think once you find your voice, 713 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: I think it's like acting. When you're finding a new character. 714 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: You find the way they walk, the way they talk, 715 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: how they act, what drives them, what motivates them. And 716 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: so that's kind of where you start. And then you know, 717 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: I've been doing this the miss for sixteen years now 718 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: in WWE, and so it's kind of the second nature 719 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: for me. Did you sample from other wrestlers growing up? 720 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: I think everyone does. I think that's the when you're 721 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: first training to be a WWE superstar, they say, take 722 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: from your favorites. So my favorites growing up, or like 723 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: the Ultimate Warrior. Now, granted I didn't paint my face. 724 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't paint my face right now, but when I 725 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: was a kid, you better believe I was painting my 726 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: face like the Ultimate Warrior and putting streamers on my 727 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: arm and running around the house and knowing my mom 728 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: and then like the Rock Austin, all my favorites you know, 729 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: I try to try to take little samples from them, 730 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: but also I still want to be my own original 731 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: character and original miss And so I think I've done 732 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: a good job at a fine line of fine tuning 733 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: myself and making sure that I give an originality to 734 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: my character. Let me give you the power to go 735 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: back and rustle anybody one time. Who would it be? 736 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: Ultimate Warrior? I never got to rustle him, and he 737 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: was my all time favorite as a kid growing up. 738 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean I looked at him and he was just 739 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: larger than life and huge and just big personality, big energy. 740 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: As soon as he came out of the out of 741 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: the gate, he was running. He had this unbridled like 742 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: energy that you couldn't match. And I just was so 743 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: entertained by him. But do you want to beat your idol? 744 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: Would you have been okay losing? I would want to 745 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: beat or get beaten by my idol either either or 746 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: it does not matter. I have gotten beaten by like 747 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: a person that I looked at. I've gotten beaten by 748 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: the Rock. That was a pretty interesting um tank. I 749 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: mean WrestleMania twenty seven. I'm in the main event of WrestleMania. 750 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm holding the WWE Championship. I beat the poster child 751 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: of WWE and John Cena with the Rocks help and 752 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: then after that the rock rock Bottom may give me 753 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: a people's elbow. What's the hardest hit you ever got? 754 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: The hardest? What hipped? Actually that at that WrestleMania I 755 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,919 Speaker 1: got tackled off of like a table onto a concrete 756 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: floor and my head smacked on the floor and I 757 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: got I was I could not remember anything. I was 758 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: knocked out, and uh and yeah it was. It was insane. 759 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: It was insane. I think. I think anytime you do 760 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: anything with your brain, that's one of the that's the 761 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: hardest thing that you could possibly do. Explain the art 762 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: of falling, the art of falling, Okay, sure, So when 763 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: when you're first learning how to become a ww superstar 764 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: or professional wrestler, you learn how to fall, and the 765 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: object is to fall flat on your back with your 766 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: arms flat out, So basically you and you got to 767 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: watch your head. And obviously when your arms go flat out, 768 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: your back muscles kind of tense up and so it 769 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: makes it allows your head not to slap snap. And 770 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: so I didn't do that that time at Wrestleman. At 771 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: twenty seven. You and your wife rehearse things since she's 772 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: a wrestling you know, we rehearse things in the ring, 773 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: in the bed, whatever we got to do, you know, 774 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: means so so yeah, I mean we definitely rehearse. My 775 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: wife is one of the longest reigning champions in WWE history, 776 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 1: and she's she's in a tremendous job with her character 777 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: and doing her thing in WWE as well. So it's 778 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 1: always nice to have your wife. Like when my wife 779 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: was like kind of like my manager. You know, whenever 780 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: you have your wife by your side and you know 781 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: the person you love and you're wearing like a speedo, 782 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: you kind of want to show off in the ring. 783 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: And I feel like that was like the best time 784 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: that I've had as a WWE superstar, because you know, 785 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: I was always every every every week, you know, I 786 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: show off in front of the audience, but when your 787 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: wife is standing right there, you know, you give them 788 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: a little extra. What if fans say to when they 789 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: see you on the street or see you outside of 790 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: the ring. I get a lot of yells, a lot 791 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: of awesome people doing my catch phrases. H correct is 792 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: my new one? Uh? I basically asked John, my my 793 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: tag team partner, John Morrison, a question, and the answer 794 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: is always correct, and it gets really annoying. But that's 795 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: my job to annoy an audience. And but the thing is, 796 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: once something is really annoying, it starts get it starts 797 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: to catch on and you start to do it. And 798 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, I mean any time everyone answer. John 799 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: asked me a question, so I was corecked cool? Right? 800 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: How do you stupid? How do you get over? How 801 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: do you put your game face on? You know, athletes 802 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: always talk about when you go into the the football 803 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: field or whatever it might be, you've got to kind 804 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: of gear up for that. You're gearing up for something 805 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: that is competitive. But how do you put that? I'm mad, 806 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, moments before that you get into character. 807 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: I think it's we have a position called the gorilla position. 808 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,240 Speaker 1: It's right before we go out. It's where all people 809 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: are watching the show and telling us how much how 810 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: much time there is, you know what we're going to 811 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: be doing next. So there's that little area right before 812 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,919 Speaker 1: we go out to the ramp. When our music hits. 813 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: Usually I'm very nervous. I butterflies in my stomach. I 814 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: can't even talk. Sometimes I feel like I'm gonna faint. Uh, 815 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, because emotions are running so high. You know, 816 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: you never know what's going to happen in ww It's 817 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: not like it's not like a concert where they play 818 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: the same song every single every single day. It's a 819 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: new match, a new thing going on each and every time. 820 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: It's a new it's a new crowd as well. And 821 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: our crowd is interactive. They boo who they hate, they 822 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: cheer who they love, and you never really know what 823 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna get. And so when you go out there, 824 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, you hear the reaction. And once I hear 825 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: that reaction, all of those nerves go away and it 826 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: turns into this immense amount of energy, adrenaline, and I 827 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: feed off of it and I just I really enjoy it. 828 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: And now with WrestleMania coming up on Saturday and Sunday, 829 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's the first time we've had a live 830 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,919 Speaker 1: audience in over a year. So I cannot wait to 831 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: feel the electricity of that audience, to feel that energy. Now. Granted, 832 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: ww's did a great job with the virtual audience. You know, 833 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,959 Speaker 1: we have a virtual crowd in a place we called 834 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 1: the Thunderdome and they've done a great job and making 835 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: it feel like a live audience, but having the real 836 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: life human beings in that crowd, it's gonna be amazing. 837 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: And uh, you're working with Snickers. Yeah, their role in 838 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: this is what. So Snicker WrestleMania is presented by Snickers 839 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: and and at Dollar General you can get my Snickers bar, 840 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: which I think is incredible. It says awesome on it 841 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: my catchphrases, I'm the mis and I'm awesome. So you 842 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: can go to Dollar General and you can get a 843 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: candy bar. This is awesome on it, and it's dedicated 844 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: to me. And I cannot believe, Like never in my 845 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: wildest dreams when I was growing up as a kid, 846 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, going to convenience and getting myself Snickers bar, 847 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: did I ever think a Snickers bar would be dedicated 848 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: to me. So it's pretty incredible, and I'm always very 849 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: thankful for all the opportunities I'm presented. And I'm just 850 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: very thankful. You know, I love I love Snickers, and 851 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: they do a great job and I got my own 852 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: Snickers bar. It's kind of cool. Whence the last time 853 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: you had a wardrobe malfunction? Oh, I haven't had very 854 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: serious wardrobe malfunctions, but I have seen a person. So 855 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: one of the things a bad guy will do is 856 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: grab the tights because it's illegal and throw a person 857 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: because it's easier to throw a person when you grab 858 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: onto their clothes. One time, a guy grabbed onto the 859 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 1: person's speedo or tights as we call them. He ripped 860 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: him off. He didn't like. They just came right off, 861 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 1: and the guy was just standing there butt naked. And 862 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 1: you hear the crowd and it's live by the way 863 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 1: that you don't get too takes, so you hear the 864 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: crowd just go absolute silence, and you hear one lady 865 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: go and then everyone else starts erupting. But this poor 866 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: guy was just who and the other guy that was 867 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: wrestling him had no idea that the guy was naked, like, 868 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: had no idea, And I don't know how he didn't know, 869 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: but he didn't know. I'm guessing the woman who was 870 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 1: laughing that's not a good thing. If you're the guy 871 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: who's naked. Woman is him the crowd. So what happens 872 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: to bad Bunny this weekend at WrestleMania. I feel sorry 873 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 1: for him because you know, I don't. I don't feel 874 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: sorry for him. I feel sorry for his fans because 875 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: they're probably not going to hear him sing in probably 876 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: a good year, because that's the amount of a a lot 877 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: of time it's going to take for the wire out 878 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: of his jaw to come out from I'm done punching him. Wow. 879 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: So but yeah, it's one of those things where you know, 880 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: he came for a performance and he overstayed his welcome 881 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: and he beat down the wrong door. And now, no 882 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: matter how many times he has, I mean, honestly, bad 883 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: Bunny is one of the biggest recording artists out there 884 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: right now. He just want a Grammy. He has over 885 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: a billion views on all his videos in YouTube, Like 886 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: just one of his video has a billion views. Like 887 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: a note of him that's not a million, that's a billion. 888 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,280 Speaker 1: So the guy is wildly famous as a huge fan base, 889 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,399 Speaker 1: but he doesn't understand that at WrestleMania, this is our 890 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: super Bowl, are World Series, are NBA Finals, and we 891 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: honestly feel it's bigger than that. It's the greatest spectacle 892 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: you will ever see it. You'll take away moments that 893 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: will last a lifetime. It's just the sad part is 894 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: that bad Bunnies fans are going to take away a 895 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: moment that they're not gonna want to see and he's 896 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: not gonna want to feel because I am one of 897 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: the best of all time. I'm the only two time 898 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: Grand Slam champion in the history of WWE, and I 899 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: plan on showcasing that at WrestleMania. He's the greatest wrestler 900 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: ever from the University of or Miami University the Miami 901 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: You are the best wrestler to ever come out of there? 902 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 1: Is that correct? You know? I would say so. I 903 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: would say I'm almost the one of the most famous 904 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: people ever to come out of Miami University of Ohio. 905 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,240 Speaker 1: But you know, it all depends on what sport you like. 906 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: Like some people like basketball where they'll say Wally Zerbiak is. 907 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: Some people like football, well the same Ben Roethlisberger is. 908 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 1: But you know, I like to pat myself on the 909 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: can saying, well, I'm the biggest I'm waiting for the 910 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: Broadway musical lay Miss, aren't we all? You know? I'm 911 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: waiting for them to give me a call and maybe 912 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 1: I can go there. And since I am the Miss, 913 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: be lay Miss for once. Mike, thanks for getting up 914 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: with us and have fun this weekend. We appreciate your time. 915 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Yeah, definitely tune into WrestleMania as 916 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: presented by Snickers Saturday Sunday, April tenth to eleventh, and 917 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: if you want to, April twelfth is Monday, and my show, 918 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: my reality show, Miss and Missus is coming back with 919 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: all new episodes on the USA Network at eleven pm. 920 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss it. It's a family 921 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,479 Speaker 1: friendly show. It'll make you laugh out loud, and it's fun, 922 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: it's entertaining. So thank you so much for having me. 923 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Thank you. Miss I'm going that's 924 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: the miss. He's wrestling Bad Bunny coming up on Saturday 925 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,760 Speaker 1: night on Peacock. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 926 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 927 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 928 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,879 Speaker 1: Search FSR to listen live.