1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: What's up, Colts fans. I'm JJ Sankovitz and this is 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: another episode of the Colts Show in Indianapolis. Colts Podcast. 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: We are presented by Microsoft Surface co Pilot plus PC. 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Good episode coming up today. I had a chance to 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: sit down with Colts wide receiver Lawan Shreadwell, who I 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: described to him as your favorite Colts receiver's favorite Colts receiver, 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. This dude is like universally beloved 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: in that receiver room across the Colts locker room. Really 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: interesting story. A guy who you might remember as a 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: first round pick of the Minnesota Vikings from twenty sixteen. 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: He's had a lot going on in his career since 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: that moment. He's been cut. He's been to a bunch 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: of different cities, but he has found a home here 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis in a role on this Colts team. Really 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: good chat there. Before I get into that, though, we 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: got to talk about week thirteen a quick little I 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: guess a couple of thoughts here. Obviously we've got a 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: lot of other stuff here on our feed. Talking about 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: the game on an instant Reaction on Colts Roundtable Live 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: on audio. And then Jack Doyle will have his thoughts 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: on the game coming up on Thursday on the Jack 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: Doyle Podcast. But a game where I think blaming the 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: referees doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: get it, like referees played a part and officiating decisions 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: played a part in the game for the Colts. But 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: I'm never someone who has ever really wanted to lean 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: on the it's the officials fault that a game has decided, 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: because there are fifty sixty other plays during a game 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: that can swing it. And for the Colts that this 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: was a game against a Houston defense that probably required 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: close to near perfect execution on offense in this game, 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: and the Colts didn't get that. They had a couple 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: of drops, they had, you know, a couple of fumbles 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: that you know, whether they were recovered or not. Did 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: torpedo some drives? They had some TFLs that torpedo drives. 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: I thought Daniel Jones played a pretty good game all 37 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: things considered, but just not enough consistent execution on offense. 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: And I'm going to get into a little more of 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: that on the Colt Show Mailbag coming up after my 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: conversation with Lakwan. But look, this season doesn't come down 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: to Week fourteen in Jacksonville, but it pretty much feels 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: like it does for the Colts for the majority of 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: this season have been sitting atop the AFC South thinking, 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: how are we going to go win this division? How 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: can we clinch this division? Well, now the Jaguars, technically 46 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: by a tiebreaker, do have the lead in the AFC South. 47 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: These are two eight and four teams that are going 48 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,559 Speaker 1: to take the field on Sunday at EverBank Stadium in Jacksonville, 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: and a Colts win bumps their odds of making the 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: playoffs for the New York Times to eighty five percent. 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: A loss it drops to fifty one percent. So just 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: like this Texans game in Week thirteen, it was a 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: pretty big swing where the Folts came in at eighty 54 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: something percent and with a win they would have bumped 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: over ninety a loss dropped them down into the upper sixties. 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: This game is even bigger odds Now the Colts come 57 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: in at sixty eight percent to make the playoffs. We're 58 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: talking about like a seventeen percent swing on this game. Again, 59 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: that is massive at this point in the calendar. So 60 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: the Colts have a lot they got to figure out. 61 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: They got to figure out on defense how to operate 62 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: potentially without Sauce Gardner for however long he may or 63 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: may not be out. I'm taping this Monday morning. Don't 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: have been a whole lot of details on that right now. 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: With Sauce having a what appears to be, according to 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: him on Sunday, a calf strain, they're gonna have to 67 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: figure out how to operate offensively and get out of 68 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: this sort of rut that they've caught themselves in over 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. And the answer to that, 70 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: by the way you're gonna get into the mailbag, is 71 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: not necessarily running the ball more. I'm going to get 72 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: into that when we get into it any Maybe there's 73 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: some opportunities in there, certainly, But there's one thing that 74 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: I was looking at that I'm really intrigued at, and 75 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: it's going to just take execution. I know it's a 76 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: pretty simple answer, but the Colts for the first ten 77 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: weeks of this season executed at such a high level, 78 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: especially on offense, and they've had some miscues on offense 79 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: that have led to teams like the Texans coming in 80 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: and winning and then losing that lead to the chiefs 81 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: in Kansas City, so really interesting stuff there. But really 82 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: excited to share this conversation with the Kwan Treadwell because 83 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: he is a guy who I didn't had never really 84 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: talked to him before this conversation. I had been aware 85 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: of him for a really long time being in Chicago 86 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: when he was coming up through Crete Monet there as 87 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: a five star recruit who went to Ole Miss. He 88 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: was like a state player of the year. Awesome dude, 89 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: awesome conversation. And again a guy who is universally really 90 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: really beloved within that Colts locker room. So let's get 91 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: to it right now here on The Colt Show right 92 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: after this. The Colt Show is presented by Microsoft Surface 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: Copilot plus pc where every day is game day. Greatness 94 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: in the NFL starts long before kickoff. 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It is my pleasure 104 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: to be joined here on the Colt Show by wide 105 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: receiver Laquon Treadwell. LaQuan, how I do man? 106 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: Doing well? Doing well? Excited to be here, Thank. 107 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: You, Excited to do this. I was talking to you 108 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 1: on the walkover about how you know we're both Chicago 109 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: suburban guys, and when I had Alec on the pod, 110 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: I tried to keep the Chicago suburban talk to a minimum, 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: but sometimes the accent comes out on occasion. 112 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's good, it's good. 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: What has this season been like for you? Getting, you know, 114 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: getting an opportunity to get back on the fifty three, 115 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, making plays on special teams. You know we're 116 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: taping this before the Texans game. We'll see, you know, 117 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: with Ashton being out, potentially more of an opportunity on offense. 118 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: But just for you to be able to go through 119 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: the season, be part of a successful team this year, 120 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: what's it been like for you? 121 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: It's truly been a blessing. 122 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: You know, being here last year and leading up to 123 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 3: the moment right now, I'm getting the opportunity to play, 124 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: being on the fifty three. Like you said, it's been 125 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: truly a blessing. You know, my family's been blessed by 126 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: the city, you know, with the like we were talking 127 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: about the Oswells and all these different things that my 128 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: family is involved with. We were really surprised, you know, 129 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,119 Speaker 3: last year we kind of got here during training camp, 130 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: and then this year we got here a little earlier, 131 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: so we were able to prep and like get to 132 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: know the city, get to know the people of the city, 133 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: and it's it's been truly amazing. 134 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: My son is in a great school. 135 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: Trader's point, I mean, we couldn't ask for a better city, 136 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 3: and uh, just a moment at this point in my career, 137 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: just you know, with the family aspect of the team, 138 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: and you know, just how we've been treated since. 139 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: We've been here. 140 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: So you've been around to you know, you're in Minnesota, Atlanta, Jacksonville, Arizona, 141 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: New England, Seattle, Baltimore, Indy. I got it. What do 142 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: you What do you like about Indy? Maybe not necessarily 143 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: compared to those other cities, but just you know, being 144 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: here now for a little over a year and. 145 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: A half, I guess I would I would rephrase what 146 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: was not to like, and it's it's really it was 147 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: like I said, it was a shocking effect for us, 148 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: you know, being from Chicago, not being up here a lot. 149 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: You know, I would go to the Buffalo Wild Wings 150 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: I think it's Srville when I. 151 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: Was a kid across the border region and. 152 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: Come right back. I think it was like fifty cent 153 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: wings or something like that. So me and all our 154 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: friends in high school, we were like, take a drive 155 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: of one of our parents' card and we would load 156 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: up and get some wings. But honestly, just everything I 157 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: mean from like I said, at the schoolings for my son, 158 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: my daughter, my wife. You know, she's found a good 159 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: community with the gyms and training, and just for me, 160 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: you know, being around the guys on the team. You know, 161 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: we got a good group of guys here, you know, 162 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: like you said, I've been on a lot of teams, 163 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: and I, by far, I think this is one of 164 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: the better teams I've been on, just as far as 165 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: people character, having a vision, you know, and staying consistent 166 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: to it. So with that, you know, it was easy 167 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: to want to come back, want to be a part 168 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: of it, and you know, from last year to this 169 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: year and now seeing the winning side of it and 170 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: helping being a part of that, making plays on special teams. 171 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: Like you said, you know, I'm just just truly grateful. 172 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: You know, I've been in the league a long time. 173 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: I've seen a lot. You know, I've been through a 174 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: lot highs and lows, and so I just try my 175 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: best to like always pour from that. Whether I see 176 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: a teammate going through something mentally battling something, you know, 177 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: I try to pull from what I've been through and 178 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: try to pour into those guys and make sure, you know, 179 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: I always come in with a good perspective because I know, 180 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: like once it gets rolling in the opposite way, you know, 181 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: it's hard to come. 182 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: Out of it, or it takes a long time. 183 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: But as long as you can stay above it and 184 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: like keep a sound mind and a good heart about 185 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: you know, everything will work yourself out. 186 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: So how did you kind of do that yourself in 187 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: your career? Where you know, you look at your background, 188 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: your five star recruit all sec eleven hundred yards at ole, 189 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: miss your first round pick, but you know here you 190 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: are at thirty killing it on special teams. Yeah, you know, 191 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: I think I looked at it. You're the only first 192 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: round receiver from the twenty sixteenth draft still playing in 193 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: the NFL, and that shows a lot of grind and 194 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: a lot of grit to you know, be willing to 195 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: do it. How did you kind of learn to have 196 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: that mentality that you now can dispense out to your 197 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: teammates here. 198 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it all starts with my upbringing. My mother. 199 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: You know, she six kids, worked extremely hard every day, 200 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: and I always kind of look at her as like 201 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: a role model in a sense of whatever you believe 202 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: you can do for your family or those next to you, 203 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: you should do it. And so for me, you know, 204 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: I have a family myself, and I always you know, 205 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: I just never believe that I couldn't play, like no 206 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: matter what the situation was or you know what anybody said, 207 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: I just knew once I got an opportunity, I was 208 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: gonna make plays. And that's just how I always was, 209 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: you know. I just I love the game of football. 210 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: I love being around my teammates. I love playing a 211 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: game of football with my teammates. So when I'm not playing, 212 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm not fulfilling my my my kind 213 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: of like my role in life, I guess in this moment. 214 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: And my family's My family is so supportive. 215 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: You know. My wife is always like you'll get them. 216 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: Just wait, when you get your turn, you'll get it. 217 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: You'll get it. 218 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: And so her being in my in my corner, I 219 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: mean through I can't even take all the credit. 220 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: Like my wife has literally helped me through. 221 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 3: So many highs and lows, like you said, like I 222 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: said earlier, like the highs and lows of my career. 223 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: She's always had my back. And then you know, we 224 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: have my son and now he's like all football, so 225 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: it's like even more like re encouraging, like hearing from him. 226 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: And then you know, being around the teammates like I 227 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: said when I was low, you know, God has always 228 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: and like you know, keep your head up, bro, like 229 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: we know what you can do, like your time will 230 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 3: come and and. 231 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: So that's how I do it. 232 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: You know, when I got the opportunity to play Chargers 233 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: and and in Berlin, it was other guys like Cole 234 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: and on and like working hard out there practice, you know, 235 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: getting his first opportunity in NFL, like I try to 236 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: give them nuggets to like keep them going and keep 237 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: them focused, and keep and just different guys on the team. 238 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: Whatever that that that facet reveals. You know, I try 239 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: to I try my best to, like you know, pour 240 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: it out because you know, ten years of experience, you know, 241 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: you can. 242 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: Never replace that. 243 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: So the best thing I could do is give it 244 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: to the younger guys and hopefully they'll be in year 245 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: ten and giving it to the next guy. 246 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: So how did you switch your mindset from you know, 247 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: your first round pick receiver? Who can you know you 248 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: go from the Vikings to the Jaguars. You're playing a 249 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: lot of offense. How did you switch your mindset to 250 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: committing to special teams? Because the last three years you've 251 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: got more snaps on special teams and you have offense. 252 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: Just grateful, being great gratitude with the opportunity to even 253 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: be on the team, you know, to be in the NFL. 254 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: Like you said, I'm the last guy in my class 255 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: and and you know, everybody want to score touchdowns, everybody do. 256 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not one guy especially saying that doesn't 257 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: want to get a side strip fumble. 258 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: But once you realize that it's still an opportunity there. 259 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: You still you can live in gratitude about that and 260 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: and be grateful, you know, like like I said, like 261 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 3: we got a mere dula back there. 262 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 2: Year ten. He plays, came in as a running back. 263 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: You know, he's a top running back from college, played 264 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 3: at high level. Like if I can get him to 265 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: the end zone like that, that makes him you know 266 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, gives him another year in the league. 267 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 3: You know, you just just if you live from gratitude 268 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: on things. 269 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: And I've learned this. 270 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: It's just like being grateful for the moments and the 271 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: opportunity and just just being on the team, you know, 272 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: being able to let your kids see you play. You know, 273 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: it's just a lot of things to be grateful for. 274 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: And I'm I've tried it. I tried my best to 275 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 3: choose to live from that like and not look at 276 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 3: it like, man, I'm just on special team. But like, man, 277 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: I'm thank god I'm on special team. Thanks God, I 278 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: got an opportunity to play on Sunday. Thank God I 279 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: got a play, you know. And with that, I feel 280 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: like if I can just see those moments, you know, 281 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: everything will work itself out. 282 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: And you're talking about the influence your mom had, you know, 283 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: and you're growing up. I'm curious if having football taken 284 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: away from you your sophomore year at all miss where 285 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: for our listeners or viewers, it was a broken tibia 286 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: and physilicated ankle. 287 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, broken fibula, just ocay to ankle. 288 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: And that was in the middle of a really good 289 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: season you're heading too. How did that impact your. 290 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 2: Your journey tremendously. 291 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 3: I mean, for so long you're playing at a high 292 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: level and you just think that's just how life is. 293 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: You know, Like I play at a high level, I 294 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: get rewarded, fans to heer, I got my goals, I'm 295 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: setting them, I'm hitting them. And when the game get 296 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: taken away, it allowed me to reflect on other things 297 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: in life, like. 298 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: As a as a human, not as a football player. 299 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: And so it helped me shape and see life from 300 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: a different perspective. You know, from ten years old, I've 301 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: been playing this game, I've been good. Didn't really have 302 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 3: to work on let's say, character and other things off 303 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: the field. You know, on the field, it's easy, you're winning, 304 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: people cheering, life is good. But that I think that 305 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: adversity allowed me to reflect on who I was as 306 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: a person, what I actually wanted to do off the field. 307 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: You know, you don't think about those things until you 308 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: get hurt, and so it allowed me to reflect, allowed 309 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: me to see where I was going, see the steps 310 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: I was taking, and ultimately it helped me be a 311 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: better person. 312 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: Did that help you separate almost like what you do 313 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: on the field from. 314 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, the rest of your life. It did. It did. 315 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: Hindsight, you know, you don't want to think about it 316 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: like that, but yeah, looking at it, it really did. 317 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: It. 318 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: Really, it really allowed me to have a different perspective, 319 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: a different appreciation of playing football. When you do it 320 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: for so long, you just expect it to happen, and 321 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: when you get hurt, allows you to reflect and be 322 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 3: grateful for the opportunity you do get to play. 323 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I think one of the coolest things about about you 324 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: is like most guys who are like on the practice squad, 325 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: they don't get like a shout out from the general 326 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: manager about how much they love this guy. You know, 327 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: like every time you Know Reggie talks about you, it's 328 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, I love Lakwan. You know. The way I've 329 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: described you to people as your their favorite Colts Receiver's 330 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: favorite receiver, like the guys in that room have so 331 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: much respect for you. How is there anything rewarding fulfilling 332 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: about that? Of Like, you know, when when you hear 333 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: something in the media, you know that's so positive about you, 334 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: and you know you see it every day from your 335 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: teammates and your coaches, like to you know, realize that, 336 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, you're thirty, you're making an impact not just 337 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: on the field, but within that group of guys. 338 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's honestly, it is a blessing. You know. 339 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: I don't know why, Like, which is crazy, that's the 340 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: crazy part. It's just I try to look at things 341 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: from two perspective. And I was told this when I 342 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: went to Atlanta. A big shout out to Ricardo Allen. 343 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: He was a guy who got cut on hard knocks 344 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: one year in the line and he ended up being 345 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: that captain and playing in that Super Bowl and starting safety, 346 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: and he was just like, don't allow the business to 347 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: separate how you treat your teammates, because if you mix it, 348 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: then it's like you'll have I guess, mix e motion 349 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: towards your teammates when you should be going together and 350 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: go play another team. 351 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 352 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it allows like what they do and who 353 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: started and whatever to now you affecting how you treat 354 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: this guy based off because he's a starter and it's 355 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: not like he said he was a starter. This coach 356 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: is aside there right or the play or whatever it is. 357 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: And so when he told me that that was your five. 358 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: And then another guy, w hu Leo Jones was like, 359 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: I don't allow my ego to dictate how the coaches 360 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: coached me. And so him being in your team telling 361 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 3: me this, he was like, and I'm only telling you 362 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: this because I want you to get to your team. 363 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: And he had no reason to tell me. He just 364 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: walked up and told me that. And so me sitting 365 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: in your ten and you saying that. It was just 366 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: like those two kind of factored in how I approached 367 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: my teammates and like my perspective moving forward throughout my career. 368 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: And I guess it's working in some way. 369 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: That was your first stop after Minnesota, Yeah too, I 370 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: mean getting Minnesota had to be pretty humbling. 371 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was experience. 372 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 3: I mean that I mean because again I didn't I 373 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: didn't expect that. I didn't even know that can happen 374 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: coming in just playing ball, being a young guy trying 375 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 3: to make my way through the league, trying to figure out, 376 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: you know, what I need to do better every year, 377 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: you going into the off season trying to get better, 378 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: and getting released by them my third year. You know, 379 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 3: it was shocking to me because I'm like, how how 380 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: can I even get released? I work hard every day, 381 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: I do everything I was supposed to do, but again, 382 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: this is results business, and I wasn't getting the results 383 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: that was matching what I was drafted. 384 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: And so that opened up the door. 385 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: For like, Okay, this is more than just working hard 386 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: and just going about training and whatever whatever the things 387 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 3: I was thinking at that time. And so I it 388 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: to Atlanta and I meet Julio and I meet Ricardo 389 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: and they just they's just point into me, and I'm 390 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: just like okay, okay, and I'm still not knowing what 391 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 3: it's going to amount to. And so looking back in 392 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 3: year ten, is just I try to continue to like 393 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: do that for other guys. 394 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: That's interesting because like I think probably a lot of 395 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: the things you can talk to guys about, you know, 396 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: your experiences, whatever little tips or nuggets you can give them. Yeah, 397 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: maybe not in the moment they'll realize how important it is. 398 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, like you said, like if they get to 399 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: year ten and it look back and say, yeah, like 400 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: that was really impactful, that's really cool. 401 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah to do that. 402 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's I really believe it's a relationship business. 403 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: You know, obviously you have to get the results, but 404 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: the relationships what keeps you on. 405 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: It keeps you on the play. 406 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: And so that's why I'm always trying to like help 407 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: the younger guys, like guys who in year three or four, 408 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: who's got these questions, you know, like year ten while 409 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: you're still playing, and it'd be the relationships, it'd be 410 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: I love playing ball, I love making plays. 411 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: So that's probably the biggest thing about it. Though. 412 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: What is the number one key to being a good 413 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: special teamer in the NFL? 414 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 2: I think you just got a one two. Honestly. 415 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 3: I think with the with the gratitude piece of it, 416 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: like being grateful that you know this is a play 417 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: that can ultimately like make a difference, and then the 418 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: one two. You know, some guys want to and some 419 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: guys don't, and some guys some guys are just doing 420 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: it to you know, get a good grade on it, 421 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: and some guys actually trying to go make a play 422 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 3: and play to the level at their on offensive defense, 423 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 3: they would. 424 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: Play at you. So in high school you had eight sacks. 425 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, so you've got some experience tackling. And 426 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: when you're walking in here, you said you've kicked off 427 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: in the state championship game. Yeah, and then a tackle. 428 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: What didn't you do in high school? 429 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? I did everything, played basketball. 430 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: Too, right, Yeah, yeah, every position on the field in 431 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 3: high school I probably played, except for like O line. 432 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: I played all the defensive positions. 433 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: If you had to like tap into any of that, 434 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: you know, of like, because you go ten years in 435 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: the league playing receiver, you're not expected to tackle anyone, 436 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're out there, you know, 437 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: playing gunner on kick. 438 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. 439 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: I try to tell the guys like Alabama offered me 440 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: at d N and I and they wouldn't believe me. 441 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: But I'm like, I'm serious. 442 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: You a five star receiver at d N. 443 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, yeah, and uh after that happened, I took 444 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: a person. Now I'm joking, but that was a Jordan phrase. 445 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, but nah they did. I was I was 446 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: a five star receiver and uh, my sophomore year had 447 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 3: like seven sacks, but they moved me to d N. 448 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: In like the last seven games. 449 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: Or something of that, had like seven sacks and like 450 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: five force humbles, and here come Alabama and I'm thinking 451 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 3: I'm about to get an offering, and they offered me 452 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: at d N And I'm just like bro a funny receiver, 453 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: and so yeah, that was That's just a funny story. 454 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: I always tell guys when they laugh when I make tackles. 455 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: But I mean it's cool that. 456 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: Hold on a second, Nick Saban authorized offering you as 457 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: a d N. Yeah, you don't usually see the wide 458 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: receiver at DANS. 459 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 460 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: I was six too, so I guess they thought they'd 461 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: put some weight on me or something. 462 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 463 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: Uh what about giving out a hit in the NFL? 464 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: Is what is that like for you to be able 465 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: to do that? 466 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: Make a tackle? Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. I mean 467 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: I used to do it in high school, so it's 468 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: like it's just. 469 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 3: It's kind of like the same type of vibe, like 470 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: just just going out trying to win a game. Like 471 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: high school, if you're a good player, you're just trying 472 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: to do anything to win a game. And so I 473 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 3: just transitioned that to like, it's gonna help win a game. 474 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: We can get some tackles inside the thirty, inside the 475 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: twenty five. You know, Maceil love it team the defense 476 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: out here. He's always coming up like, Bro, you turn 477 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: me up when you make a tackle, Bro, And I'm 478 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: just like, okay, keep doing it. 479 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: And so what I want to get you out of here? 480 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: On this you've been around. We kind of talked about 481 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: it at the start. What about this franchise, you know, 482 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: from kind of the top down with Carly to you know, 483 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: Chris to Shane, coaches, teammates. What about this franchise? Has 484 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: have you seen that has led to the success of 485 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: this team has been having this year contending for the 486 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: AFC south Man. 487 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: Just the consistency of character. Honestly, it's just you. They're 488 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: good people, Honestly. It's just there's no real secret to it, 489 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 3: like great character, same message, same vision. Honest Yeah, it's 490 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: just as an older player, like that's all you can 491 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: wish for, and as a younger player too. But when 492 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: you're an older player, you understand like, Okay, other organizations 493 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 3: they're not like this. I mean you might you might 494 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 3: be winning, but it's not as connected and like family 495 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: oriented and thoughtful and andsightful and just different factors that 496 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: other teams. Yeah, you might win, you might have structure 497 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: in the sense of foundation wise, but it's not that 498 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: same connectivity and so yeah, that's that's probably it. 499 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 2: Cool. 500 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: Well, we're grateful to have you here. Grateful, apreciate you 501 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. Man, appreciate you all right back 502 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: here on the Colt Show. Thanks again to Lakwan Treadwell 503 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: for joining me here on the pod. Let's get into 504 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: the Colts Show mail bag presented by Microsoft Surface Copilot 505 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: plus PC achieving greatness with real time AI insights from 506 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: the field to the front office. Microsoft Surface co Pilot 507 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: plus PCs are transforming how the Indianapolis Colts win. And 508 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: a general question comes in from Tim Cook from Iowa. 509 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: Tim asks, what are we going to do to get 510 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: back to winning and make a major playoff push? I 511 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: kind of wanted a broad question here because there's one 512 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: thing that I've been thinking about after hearing Shane Steichen 513 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: mention something along these lines on Sunday after the game. 514 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: So to me, the Colts issues on offense over the 515 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: last two weeks, where they scored twenty against Kansas City, 516 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: you know, had four consecutive three and outs to end 517 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: that game, and then their issues against the Texans, only 518 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: scoring sixteen a season low. It starts on first down. 519 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: And I've felt this way about this offense all year 520 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: that you can feel it when the Colts get out 521 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: there on offense and they get a first down on 522 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: first down, or they get a gain a seven or 523 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: eight on first down, you can feel this offense click 524 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: into a rhythm. And that's how they became this kind 525 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: of ruthlessly efficient group over the first half of the season. 526 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: So let's look at this. From weeks one through eleven, 527 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: the Colts were second in the NFL in passing success 528 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: rate on first down they gain and success rate on 529 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: first down. If you're looking at first and ten, it's 530 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: picking up seven or more yards. If you're looking at 531 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: first and five, picking up you know, a couple of 532 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: yards getting into there. But for the most part, these 533 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: are gonna be seven plus yard gains on first down. 534 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: The Colts got those on fifty one point one percent 535 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: of their first down dropbacks. That was second in the league, 536 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: behind only the Seattle Seahawks. And it felt like it 537 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: right like half of these dropbacks the Colts are like moving, 538 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: They're ahead of the chains and they're able to get 539 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: into a lot more of their offense. Twelve and thirteen, 540 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: the Colts passing success rate on first down is twenty 541 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: five percent. That is twenty sixth in the NFL over 542 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: the last two weeks. Interestingly, this team has not been 543 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: an efficient team running the ball on first down this season. 544 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: From weeks one through eleven, the Colts were getting a 545 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: successful run on first down twenty three point four percent 546 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: of the time. That's eighteenth in the NFL in that span, 547 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: just below the league average of twenty three point six percent. 548 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: So basically, the Colts in terms of efficiency were about 549 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: league average on first down. Now, in terms of explosiveness, 550 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: they were number one in the NFL running the ball 551 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: on first down, So maybe it wasn't always picking up 552 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: those yards that lead you to say that was an 553 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: efficient play, but they were getting a ton of explosives. 554 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: Just looking at success rate though, in weeks twelve and thirteen, 555 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: that has actually gone up when the Colts have run 556 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 1: the ball on first down twenty seven point three percent, 557 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: So maybe there is something to be said for running 558 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit more. Here's the problem. Is 559 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: when the Colts did run the ball in weeks one 560 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: through eleven, even if they weren't necessarily getting yardage that 561 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: led the play to be categorized as efficient, they only 562 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: had thirteen rushes that lost yardage in that span of 563 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: ten games. In the last two weeks, they've had six 564 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: rushes that have lost yardage on first down. So that 565 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: total of thirteen in weeks one through eleven that was 566 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: third lowest in the NFL. Six in the last two 567 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: weeks that is second highest. So the point here is 568 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: the Colts have struggled to get out of those difficult 569 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: down in distances that you've seen them get in second 570 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: and long, third and long. And I'm wondering if the 571 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: blitz rate that the Colts have seen is a function 572 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: of those down in distances, maybe almost more than a 573 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: function of team saying we're just gonna go heat up 574 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: down Jones, because on first down the Colts are not 575 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: facing a ton of blitz. Is they're actually being blitzed 576 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: less on first down in the last two weeks than 577 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: they were in weeks one through eleven. In weeks one 578 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: through eleven, on first down, the Colts are blitzed thirty 579 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: five percent of the time on their dropbacks. That was 580 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: the fourth highest rate in the league. In the last 581 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: two weeks, Daniel Jones has been blitzed on twenty five 582 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: percent of his first down dropbacks. That's nineteenth So again, 583 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: I think if the point of this is all to say, 584 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't think this is all doom and gloom for 585 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: the Colts offense. They need to get back to doing 586 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: what they were doing early in the season, and it's 587 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: not like it's like one thing that's killing them. When 588 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: I went in and I looked at it, I think, 589 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe in the back of my head, I 590 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: was like, I don't feel like they've been blitzed a 591 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: ton on first down, but let's just go see. I 592 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: think if I had seen that blitz rate creep higher 593 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: and higher than what it was even in weeks one 594 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: through eleven on first down specifically, I would have been like, 595 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: that's a little concerning. But since it's not been all 596 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: that high, I think it comes down to execution. And 597 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: it's a boring answer, but you got to avoid drops 598 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: on first down. You got to avoid you know, plays 599 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: upfront that maybe lead to a pressure. Although Daniel Jones 600 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: is not he's been pressured a ton on first down. 601 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: The offensive line stone a pretty good job on first down. 602 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: It's just like the execution feels just maybe a little 603 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: bit off. It's not completely off on first down. This 604 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: offense can get back to where they were to start 605 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: the season. Maybe you're not talking about the historic highs 606 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: of it, but they can get back to being an 607 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: efficient offense on first down. It's about execution and it's 608 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: not about necessarily a fatal flaw of this offense. The 609 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: best case scenario here is the Colts over the last 610 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: two weeks have run into two very good defenses in 611 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and then especially the Houston Texans, who have 612 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: that is the fastest defense I've seen play all year. 613 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: The Houston Texans. They fly around in a way that 614 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: is unlike any other defense in the NFL. And then 615 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: of course they got Anderson Hunter on the edges who 616 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: are fantastic. But it's about execution, and can you go 617 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: execute now against the Jaguars, against the Seahawks, against the 618 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, because if you get into second and two, yeah, 619 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: I know, against the Texans, the Colts had that second 620 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: and two run that lost five yards that felt more 621 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: like an aberration than a again, like a fatal flaw there. 622 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: If you get into second and two or you get 623 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: a first down on first down, this offense, they start humming, 624 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: they start clicking. That's what the Colts got to get 625 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: back to. They got to figure out ways to get 626 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: back to it. So when you go down to Jacksonville 627 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: on Sunday, keep an eye on first and ten and 628 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: what the Colts are doing, because if you get into 629 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: second and long, that's where you can get heated up. 630 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: If you get into third and long, that's who you 631 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: can get heated up. And that's what teams have been doing. 632 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: But if you get into second and two, you're probably 633 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: a little less likely to see that six man or 634 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: seven man cover zero pressure that the Colts have been 635 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: seeing at a higher rate. I think they've been seeing 636 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: it at a higher rate because they've been getting into 637 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: these down and distances. That's sort of the gut feeling 638 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: I had coming away from it. So the Colts got 639 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to execute because look at 640 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: eight and four, they still control their destiny. They will 641 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: continue to control that destiny with a win over Jacksonville 642 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday. That's what it's gonna come down to and 643 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: for me again. It's gonna start on first down for 644 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: this cults offense. Good question there from Tim. You can 645 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: submit your questions to the Cult Show Mailbag at colts 646 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: dot com slash mailbag right here in the YouTube comments 647 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: for this episode, or you can get them at me 648 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: on social media on x or Instagram. That's gonna do 649 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: it for this week's episode of The Colt Show. Thanks 650 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: again to the Kwanhreadwell for joining me. 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