1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Hello, America. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: It's Peter Schweitzer and that's Eric Eggers, and we are 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: filling in for Sean Hannity today. We are very glad 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: that you've joined us here. We've got an action pack 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: show Eric, A lot of things going on in the. 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: News, a lot of things going on the news, a 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 3: lot of things going on in the country. It's the 8 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: last Friday before Christmas. People are running around town. It's 9 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 3: a last minute shopping, maybe returning some gifts right before 10 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: the holidays begin. And Congress is busy as well. We've 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: got breaking news. Literally ten minutes ago, we've been assured 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: by embattled House Speaker Johnson that there will not be 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: a government shutdown. Peter Schweizer, your reaction, Yeah. 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, very very interesting. Let's listen to this audio 15 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: clip right here. 16 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 4: I got to wrap up in a few moments upstairs, 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: but I expect that we will be proceeding forward. We 18 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 4: will not have a government shut down, and we will 19 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 4: meet our obligations for our farmers soon, ade aid for 20 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 4: the disaster victims all over the country, and for making 21 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 4: sure that military and essential services and everyone who relies 22 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: upon the federal government for a paycheck is paid. Over 23 00:00:59,720 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: the hall. 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: I'll give you the more details here in just a 25 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: few moments. 26 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: How do you talk. So they apparently have a solution. 27 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: We will see. 28 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier that a lot of people running around 29 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: doing a lot of last minute shopping. They're probably doing 30 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: some shopping in Congress as well. So it's going to 31 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: be interesting to see what this final bill looks like. 32 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: Well, it looks like, you know, according to the reporting 33 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: again just released right now from CBS News, that this 34 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: deal will not include many presents for many members of Congress, 35 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: and we have important things to talk about as it 36 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: relates to what exactly it means at this moment in 37 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: history for the country that we now know what previous efforts. 38 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: Thursday's bill contains so many different provisions that I think 39 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: we're correctly rejected. They're saying, this bill now is expected 40 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: to include three major parts, A clean short term extension 41 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: of government funding, billions of dollars in disaster relief, and 42 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: billions in eight to farmers, and that's it. So it 43 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: will not include the suspension of the debt limit, which 44 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: was obviously a sticking point before. So in some ways 45 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: it seems like this is maybe best case scenario, including 46 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: for people that rely on paycheck from government over the holidays. 47 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, said very well, could be. We're going to be 48 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: following that story throughout the program. Eric and I of 49 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: course co host the Drill Down podcast. I write books. 50 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: I've written books for years for number one New York 51 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: Times bestsellers. Eric's and author as well, and on our 52 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: podcast we talk about cronyism and corruption in Washington, d C. 53 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: That is certainly pertinent today. But we've got a couple 54 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: of great guests coming on as well. In addition to 55 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: covering the ongoing news. We've got Congresswoman Nancy Mace from 56 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: South Carolina will be joining us, as will Senator Rand Paul. 57 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: They have both been outspoken and wanting a clean bill 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 2: with no pork attached. We're also going to have Gerald 59 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: Posner on. He's the famous investigative reporter. He wrote Case Closed, 60 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: the definitive book on the JFK assassination. Our question to 61 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: him is, why do we know so little about the 62 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: Trump assassination attempts? Why do we know less about them 63 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: than we know about the United Health CEO. We're going 64 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: to talk to him about that. 65 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and to the point we have, you know, this 66 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: is story that's been a couple of weeks old now, 67 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: and you have seen this person be marched throughout the streets. 68 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: He's in custody of Luigi and Mangoni, but you know 69 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: everything about his good read reviews to where he vacationed 70 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: his career. I literally saw on the shooter of Donald Trump. 71 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: They had to do a public records request to get 72 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 3: his SAT score and that was like the breaking news. 73 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: And so you know, one person killed a healthcare ceo, 74 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: another person shot at the current president elect of the 75 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: United States. Why don't we know more. Gerald Posner is 76 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: an expert at debunking conspiracy theories but also saying, wait 77 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: a minute, this seems like there's something there. He's been 78 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 3: great with that in our podcast, and we're looking forward 79 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: talking to him. 80 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I think he's a great guest, because 81 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: he's not somebody that buys conspiracy theories relates to other things, 82 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: but he's really definitely concerned about what's going on there. 83 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: And then at the bottom of this hour. 84 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: A little bit out of the purview maybe of where 85 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: things usually go, but actually not, we're gonna talk college 86 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: football playoffs. They begin this weekend, and we got the 87 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: National Championship college football coach jimbo Fisher, who's going to 88 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: be joining us, and we want to talk to him 89 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: about college football. Is it becoming corrupt? Is there a 90 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: parallel to Washington, d c. Which we look at all 91 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,559 Speaker 2: the time, where you have legalized graft, where they legalize 92 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: things that allow congressmen to get rich. Are we seeing 93 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: the same thing infecting college football. We're gonna have that 94 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: candid conversation at three point thirty to that Eastern Yeah. 95 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: So a lot to get to and we'll continue to 96 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: give you continuing coverage from again House Member Nancy Mace 97 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: at four. We'll talk to rand pot at five, so 98 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: you will hear from active members of our body of 99 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: elected representatives about the deal and what's happening. But Peter, 100 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: you and I this morning, we're talking about what's happening 101 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: in this country and why are we where we are 102 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: in the country. The fact that we're still having votes 103 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: is because the first version to solve this problem, the 104 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: first version that our current House speakers suggested we do, 105 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 3: was soundly rejected. But he wasn't soundly rejected, I think 106 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: on its merits in terms of like the members of 107 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: Congress looked at and they said no, no, no. It was 108 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: the public that looked at it, and with the public 109 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: that looked at it because Elon Musk and Twitter and 110 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: Vivic Ramaswami and other people said this is bad. And 111 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: we started to see not in the mainstream media but 112 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 3: on social media every single provision, including things like forty 113 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: percent raises for members of Congress, and people said, this 114 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: is ridiculous and it speaks to a larger point about 115 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: where we are in this country. 116 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: It does. It does. 117 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: The shift with the election of Donald Trump is not 118 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: only signifying a change from the Democrat to a Republican 119 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: and the policy change that we would envision there. 120 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: It's also a. 121 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: Change in how Washington, DC functions. And here's the thing 122 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: that drives me crazy. They always talk about in Washington, 123 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: d C. Well, we have a process and there's too 124 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: much chaos and there's too much dysfunction. Why is the 125 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: process sacra sanct Why is that the thing that we 126 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: need to follow? I mean, do we really think, for example, 127 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: the signing of the Declaration of Independence was not chaotic? 128 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: Do we not think that the you know, the Constitutional 129 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: Convention was, of course, I mean, chaos is part of 130 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: the process. The question is do you have transparency, do 131 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: you have the will of the people represented? And are 132 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: you operating on principles. So there may be chaos in Washington, DC, 133 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: and it may be Trump inspired chaos, but chaos is 134 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: not a bad thing if it leads to greater transparency, 135 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: and I think that's what we're seeing even before Donald 136 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: Trump becomes President of the United States. 137 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: I totally agree with one part of that. I think 138 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: the fact I think chaos can be good. I don't 139 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: know that the Declaration of Independent signing was chaotic only 140 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: because in those oil paintings you see like it actually 141 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: those quite serene. They seem like they have it together. 142 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: Their wigs are all in place. 143 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely, But you know, there wasn't social media back then. 144 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 3: But I do think to the point, the only reason 145 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: we know that this process is chaotic is because of 146 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: the transparency, and I think that that actually is a 147 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 3: very positive and healthy thing. We live in Florida. We're 148 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: doing the show from Florida. Florida's called the Sunshine State. 149 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: We have actually some of the more advanced laws as 150 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: it relates to transparency, public records requests and elsewhere, and 151 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: so that's a very healthy thing for the government. State's 152 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: government lacks that a lot of other states do too. 153 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: And I would just say it's important because the other 154 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: thing that this represents is consider what the last four 155 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: years have been. You know, the election of Donald Trump 156 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: represent a lot of things. But if you look at 157 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal article this week about Joe Biden 158 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: and the length that his handlers went to to conceal 159 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 3: his fragility and to essentially continue to perpetuate this great 160 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: lie against the American people about how weak and incapacitated 161 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: the leader of the free world was the I mean 162 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: a line in there that caught my eye. I know 163 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: lines caught yours as well. But they said that they 164 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: had aids on the stage that had to tell Joe Biden, 165 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: this is years ago where to go, and the line 166 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: was that would have been obvious to the average person. 167 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: So that's a thing that was that was kept from America. 168 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: And so now you could you juxtapose that with what 169 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: this bill looks like. Nothing's being captain and that's a 170 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: really positive thing. We now can see literally how this 171 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: ausice is being made and the arguments that we're having 172 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: about it. That's the way our founding fathers oil painter 173 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: are not designed it. 174 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's right. 175 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: And here's the thing, by the way, what was the 176 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: media coverage. We now know from the Wall Street Journal, 177 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: for example, that they had a telln where to go. 178 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: We now know from the Wall Street Journal that to 179 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: adapt the White House around the needs of a diminished leader. 180 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: This is the Wall Street Journal. They told visitors to 181 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: keep meetings focused. Interactions with senior Democratic lawmakers, and some 182 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: cabinet members, including the Secretary of Defense, were infrequent or 183 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: grew less frequent. And you could go on and on, 184 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: but here's the point. Here's the point. Chaos with Trump. 185 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: Oh there's chaos. What were we told about Biden? It's orderly. 186 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: The adults are back in charge. This is the way 187 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: government is supposed to function, when it was in fact 188 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: not functioning that way at all. 189 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: In fairness, the adults actually were in charge. They were 190 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: actually just in charge of Joe Biden and telling him 191 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: when to go to bed and okay, now turn left, 192 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: blink twice. Yeah, I mean, that's literally what the Wall 193 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 3: Street Journal was talking about. They said that the chairman 194 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: of the House Armed Services Committee couldn't get a meeting 195 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: with Joe Biden ahead of the Afghanistan withdrawal. They said 196 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: the only time he heard he had major concerns about we're 197 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: playing in this withdrawal. We now know tragically that this 198 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: was not well executed. Thirteen American service members died, and 199 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: the Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee was trying 200 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: to raise those concerns. Can't get the Commander in chief 201 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: on the phone. The only time he heard from him 202 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: in four years was after with the withdrawal, and he 203 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: made some critical comments the chairman of the House Armed 204 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: Service Committee. He heard from Anthony Blincoln, the Secretive State. 205 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: It got a little bit of a nasty Graham and 206 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: Joe Biden called him to apologize. But that just speaks 207 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: to what we've been dealing with in terms of the 208 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: lack of access and lack of transparency under the Joe 209 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: Biden administration. That's dramatically different now because of Elon Musk, 210 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: because of Twitter, because of Donald Trump. And Donald Trump's 211 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: not even president yet. 212 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's a remarkable effect. As Joe Biden 213 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: Ulster related to in this Wall Street Journal article, there 214 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: were limits over who Biden spoke with, limits on what 215 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: they said to him, and limits around the sources of 216 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: information he consumed. So that is what the Orderarliness, the 217 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 2: adults in charge they got with Biden. It's a new 218 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 2: era here. We are looking forward to the program today. 219 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 2: We want you to join the conversation right you can 220 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: call one eight hundred nine four one seven three two six. 221 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: We want to hear your thoughts. Also, if you've got 222 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: a theory on the drones, tell us what's going on 223 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: with the drones. 224 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: Well, you can tell us what's going on with the doings. 225 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: You might be one of the few people that actually 226 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: has a clue. But no, we have a lot to 227 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 3: get to today. We're going to continue the coverage of 228 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: what's happening in Congress. We're going to talk a little 229 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 3: college football. We're going to talk conspiracy theories and assassinations 230 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: and apparently yes, drones. He's Peter Schweizer, I'm Mark Egers. 231 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: This is the Sean Handy Show. We've got a great 232 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: show for you today. Can't wait to continue the conversation. 233 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: Next, it's Peter Schweizer and Eric Eggers. You are listening 234 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: to the Sean Hannerdy Radio Show. Merry Christmas, Happy Honkah 235 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: to everybody. Let's go to a caller. Let's go to 236 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: jam who wants to talk about Joe Biden. Jan, how 237 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: are you? 238 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 5: I'm super how are you guys today? 239 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: We are doing well. So what's your thoughts on Joe Biden? 240 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 5: Well, I want to know. If Joe Biden is not 241 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 5: cognitive and he is not fit to stan trou how 242 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 5: are any of the pardons that he's been offering to 243 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 5: all of these eight thousand people. Legal thinks it shouldn't 244 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 5: even be valid because he can't make that decision. He 245 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 5: can't be held accountable in court or tried because he's 246 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 5: not cognitive. Why are the pardons legal? 247 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: No, it's a great question, I think. To be clear, 248 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: let's remember that what you said is actually exactly the 249 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: threshold that was held up by the special prosecutor to 250 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 3: look who looked into Joe Biden's use of those classified documents, 251 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: and in the Wall Street Journal article about this massive 252 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 3: cover up, which should be a huge scandal. I mean, 253 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: the fact that Joe Biden has been is no longer 254 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: going to be in office in twenty days or whatever 255 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: it is, shouldn't detract from the fact that his administration 256 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: is responsible for actively lying to the American people. But 257 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: when he was preparing to meet with the special prosecutor 258 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: go over the documents. The special prosecutor said, we can't 259 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: possibly charge this man with a crime. He's too forgetful, 260 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: he would be too sympathetic as a senile old man. 261 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: And then when confronted with that evidence by somebody who 262 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: has a legal authority in this country, people didn't say, Okay, 263 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: you're right, maybe we should make a change. Instead, The 264 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: New York Times ran an op ed the next day 265 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: that said, hey, I'm a neurologist. We're thinking about remembering 266 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: in the wrong way. It was like, no, it's you, 267 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 3: guys or the problem. 268 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: Right, right, No, exactly. I mean, that's the thing that's 269 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: so remarkable about this is that this story comes out, 270 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: of course, after Joe Biden stepped away from the race 271 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: and Kamala Harrald's lost the race or now finally prepared 272 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: to talk about it. 273 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: But it raises this larger issue. 274 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: I mean, Democrats right now are are putting out these 275 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 2: memes that it's actually President Elon Musk right, that he's 276 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: the one really running the show. Which, look, if we 277 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 2: know anything about Donald Trump, donald Trump is going to 278 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: run his own show. 279 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: But they're the. 280 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: Concern they are expressing is that somebody unelected in his 281 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: case not so hidden, but somebody else is actually making decisions. Well, 282 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: in Joe Biden's presidency, we now know that was actually 283 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: the case. 284 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: It's remarkable that is absolutely the case. And by the way, 285 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: for people who are complaining about the asset that Elon 286 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: Musk is to Donald Trump. You know another thing that 287 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: happened in the news not too long ago is ABC 288 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: News just settled a lawsuit with Donald Trump for sixteen 289 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: million dollars, and George Stefanopolis doesn't appear to be too 290 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: happy about it, in which George Stefanopolis had to admit that, 291 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 3: you know, he had said something that was incorrect, he 292 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: said something liabelous about Donald Trump. And so the point 293 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: is is that why that stands out, why it's news 294 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: that a network is wrong about the things they said 295 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 3: about Donald Trump, is because they have heretofore said many 296 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: things about don Trump. What have we been told for 297 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: the last four years? Donald Trump's a fascist, he's hitler, 298 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: His choices are dangerous. He's a threat to the American people. 299 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: He's a threat to democracy. And all that means is 300 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: that the other side has had many media outlets doing 301 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: their bidding and helping them accomplish their priorities social or 302 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: legislative or otherwise since as long as we can remember. 303 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: So the fact that Donald Trump now has a media 304 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: figure on his side, I think checks on power are good. 305 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: But let's not pretend like this is the first time 306 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: this has ever happened. 307 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: No, that's exactly right. 308 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: And Senator Ron Johnson, by the way, from Wisconsin, who's 309 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: really one of the really good guys in Washington, in 310 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: talking about the current crisis over the death ceiling, I mean, 311 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: he calls it insanity, dysfunction. But the reason he said 312 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: that that Democrats have, in his words, all the leverage 313 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: is because corporate media is always on their side. In 314 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: other words, anytime there has been a dispute about the 315 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: budget and about what to do with it, corporate media 316 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: has always blamed Republicans for government shutdown. So there's been 317 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: a disadvantage. But to your point, Elon Musk may have 318 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: changed that equation because you now have Twitter X and 319 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, have this ability to drive the narrative separate 320 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: from the corporate media. 321 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: It's a wild time in this country. It's the end 322 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four. It's going to beginning of twenty 323 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: twenty five, we have a fundamentally different media ecosystem. We're 324 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: gonna have a new present next year, and tonight, for 325 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: the first time, we will have a new and expanded 326 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: college football Playoff. And I just think it's representative a 327 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: lot of the things that are changing in this country. 328 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: So when we come back, we're going to talk about 329 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: what the new era of college football looks like, some 330 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: of the positives, some of the negatives. We're gonna talk 331 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: to Jimbo Fisher national Championship winning coach about the future 332 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: of college football, which actually begins tonight. He's Peter Schweizer 333 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: on Eric Eggers. You are where you are. Thank you 334 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: for joining us on the Seawan Handy Show. Welcome back 335 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: to the Seawan Handy Show. Eric Eggers, Peter Schweitzer filling 336 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: in for Sean Handy very much appreciate the opportunity to 337 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: talk to you in this incredibly important and time in 338 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: our country's history. There's a lot happening. Obviously, we've been 339 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: talking about the things that are happening in Congress. Peter 340 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: Schwiz and I talk about that on a regular basis. 341 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: On our podcast, which you can hear at the drill 342 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: doown dot com. But it's a big day in another way. 343 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: It is the beginning of a new era in something 344 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: that matters to a whole lot of you. The College 345 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: Football Playoff, the expanded College Football Playoff, begins tonight. And 346 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: join us now is somebody that we have been familiar 347 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: with for a long time. Is a very accomplished coach 348 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: in college football. He's won a national championship at Florida State, 349 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: and he has I think really important insights into college football, 350 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: both in terms of what it is now and what 351 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: it might be becoming if we're not careful. Join us right now. 352 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: Jimbo Fisher, national championship winning coach at Florida State, former 353 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: coach at Texa and M and somebody who's very passionate 354 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: about the sport. Coach Fisher, how you doing. Thank you 355 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: for joining us, great guy. 356 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 6: How y'all doing. 357 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: We're doing very well. We're doing very well. It's a 358 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: big day. It is the beginning of this expanse ed, 359 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: unprecedented college football Playoff. What are you thinking about? What 360 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 3: what does today mean to you? As somebody who cares 361 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: so much and has spent so much of your life 362 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: playing and coaching college football. 363 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 6: Well, anytime anything's new, you're anxious to see, you know, 364 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 6: how it affects not only the game of football, which 365 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 6: is going to be, but the people and the fans 366 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 6: and where this thing goes because listen, everything grows, So 367 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 6: from this, it's going to continue to grow. In my opinion, 368 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 6: I don't know how much it'll grow as far as 369 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 6: number of teams, but I think it's going to get 370 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 6: to fourteen or sixteen. But just you know, you got 371 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 6: home games the first time in the playoffs. You've got homely, 372 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 6: you've got teams coming to your home stadium, You've got 373 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 6: teams from the South going to the North. This is 374 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 6: becoming like NFL football. It's becoming much more like pro football. 375 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 6: And it's and I'm anxious to see how we really 376 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 6: like it and where it goes from here. 377 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, in some ways it's like college football. There's a 378 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: lot of money involved, and as you noted, that's another 379 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: thing that's continued to grow. But in another thing, it's 380 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 3: it's not like professional football because there's no se cap 381 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: in the NFL. There are limits to how much money 382 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 3: a team can spend on their players. That does not 383 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: exist as of right now in college football. Is that 384 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: something you think that they should look at. You've made 385 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 3: comments before about some concerns you have about the growing 386 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: nature of the impact of money in this sport. What 387 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: makes you the most concerned. 388 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 6: Well, I think there's got to be a cap on 389 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 6: because it can't get continue to grow and grow and grow. 390 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 6: Where's the money going to continue to come from? And 391 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 6: if I think it has to be capped like you 392 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 6: do in the NFL, and I think you're going to 393 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 6: have to, I mean you're gonna have to have collective bargaining, 394 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 6: which is going now to have collective bargaining, which is 395 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 6: the thing why it can't be capped right now. The 396 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 6: other side does not have a union. That's why you 397 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 6: can't win in courts. The interesting thing about this whole 398 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 6: president is anytime the kids or anybody take anybody to court, 399 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 6: take the NCAA to court, they beat the NCAA because 400 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 6: they have the laws, I mean, working laws, litigation laws. 401 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 6: There's all kind of every avenue you go down, there's 402 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 6: a rabbit hole. So they're going to win. You're going 403 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 6: to have to come up with a union. You're going 404 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 6: to have to come up with collective bargaining. You're going 405 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 6: to have come up with a salary cap so you 406 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 6: can least cap things and make things fair, because the 407 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 6: other thing that's happening is certain legs are getting huge 408 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 6: advantages because of the money just dispersal, and it's such 409 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 6: a great difference that, you know, a couple of these 410 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 6: conferences are going to dominate everything, and they are right now. 411 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 6: It's even going to stretch even more, and we've got 412 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 6: to bring it back and we've got to make it 413 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 6: the rest of the country much more relevant. 414 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, Coach, you're talking about collective bargaining 415 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 3: and unions and salary caps and contracts, and that doesn't 416 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: sound very amateur when we're talking about what used to 417 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 3: be referred to as amateur athletics. You've also made the 418 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 3: point in I think that there's a lot of people 419 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: that agree with you that you think the new era 420 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: of name, image likeness, this agreement that's allowed players to 421 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 3: be compensated for the way in which universities have used 422 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: their name and their image, and that's one of the 423 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: things that's brought all the money into the sport. You've 424 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: said it made cheating worse. We've talked about how you know, 425 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 3: a former member of Congress just left, Dean Phillips, you 426 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: ran for president, and he talked about how Congress represents 427 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: in some sense of the word legalized corruption. That's a 428 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: strong word. But you've made similar, I guess comments about 429 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: what you think college football might be becoming. 430 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 6: Well it is. I mean there's always been illegal recruiting, 431 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 6: that's always been a factor. Guys have always done that, 432 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 6: but now the tampering and the ability when you've added 433 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 6: the nil. But the part this really made this crazy 434 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 6: is a transfer portal. It's open for you. Think of 435 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 6: every pro athlete could leave his team every year based 436 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 6: on where he wants to go, based on the money. 437 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 6: And people are just constantly interacting with every child's player. 438 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 6: They're having people tamper with their players. So I mean, 439 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 6: if you recruit a good player and you developed he's 440 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 6: a three star guy that no one knows about, and 441 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, you know he's a great player, 442 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 6: which happened to us at Florida State many times half 443 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 6: of our first round picks were three star players. And 444 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 6: now the other teams come in and have more money, 445 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 6: will come and the other conferences saying I'll give you 446 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 6: another four hundred thousand dollars, five hundred thousand dollars. You're 447 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 6: an eighteen nineteen year old kid who has nothing or 448 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 6: your family has nothing. That happens and the tampering that's 449 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 6: going on that it's basically like you say, it's here's 450 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 6: here's what I'm coming for, here's what I want, and 451 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 6: it's almost the recruiting part of it's gone, and it's 452 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 6: more what can you what can you do for? Mean 453 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 6: kids are even taking huh I say, spaces at other 454 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 6: schools knowing they're probably going to be a backup, but 455 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 6: they're going to make more money because they don't want 456 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 6: to play instead of getting developed somewhere in a program, 457 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 6: and the transfer porter was not good for development and 458 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 6: ni L when you when you put that combination together, 459 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 6: the haves are only going to get stronger. And so 460 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 6: it's really like you say, the corruption in the game 461 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 6: is only enhanced. 462 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 3: We're talking at Jimbo Fisher, former national championship winning coach 463 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 3: at Florida State University and an expert in college football, 464 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: something that's devoted decades of his life. He's played at 465 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: the highest level in college football. He's coached at the 466 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 3: highest level. Uh and you know somebody who has I 467 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 3: think been somebody who's sounding some alarm bells about concerns 468 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: and what college football is becoming. A lot of people 469 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: are going to watch this first ever college football playoff game, 470 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: a home playoff game, to coach Fisher's point, in Notre 471 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 3: Dame Stadium tonight. It's the first time a college football 472 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: game will be broadcast not on NBC. That's the network 473 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: that has the arrangement, and it's because of the influence 474 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: of ESPN. Coach I think it's impossible to talk about 475 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: college football without talking about ESPN and the influence that 476 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: they've had on the sport. Obviously, that's an entity that's 477 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 3: owned by Disney. That's another it's a very powerful corporation. 478 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 3: What do people like, what do we think about this arrangement? 479 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: And is ESPN just becoming kind of more powerful? And 480 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 3: is that a positive thing or not a positive thing? 481 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 6: You hit it dead on the head. It's almost becoming 482 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 6: like a monopoly. I mean, they control, they control the messaging, 483 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 6: they control the games, they control the output. They're putting 484 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 6: the money in it. But I mean, and and a 485 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 6: lot of our other businesses. We see this as collusion, 486 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 6: or we see this as a monopoly, and we break 487 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 6: it up. And that's what's happened. And it's happening with 488 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 6: two conferences in college football and my coach and one 489 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 6: of them for a long time. And I get it, 490 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 6: and I don't blame the commissioners that are involved with it. 491 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 6: I don't blame because they're taking advantage of the opportunities 492 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 6: they have. But it's not good for the game. We're 493 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 6: taking so much of the other part of the country out. 494 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 6: And it's like the playoffs. I mean, you've got eight 495 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 6: or nineteen, you're going to have eight or nineteens eventually 496 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 6: as the eight I think now that are coming from 497 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 6: two leagues, and everybody else gets one spot. Well that's 498 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 6: I mean, you've got to be perfect. Everybody else can 499 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 6: go lose two or three or four games. That's not 500 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 6: the way it's supposed to be. We need it, We 501 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 6: need collective bargaining across the board. We know what I said, 502 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 6: that's picked the top seventy two teams. That's have twelve 503 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 6: sixteen league. Everybody plays each other. Now that's cross schedule 504 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 6: the other six games, or you're playing a dispersity across 505 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 6: different places in the country to get a better feel 506 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 6: every conference to every the top six teams, those six, 507 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 6: those twelve get a place then and that pick four 508 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 6: more wild cards and get sixteen and go because you 509 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 6: got But you got to do it with a collective 510 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 6: bargaining where everybody has the same amount of money to 511 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 6: buy it to spend on players. Otherwise you're having a 512 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 6: total monopoly on the market and that's not right. And 513 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 6: ESPN is a driving force behind all that. I mean, 514 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 6: I don't know espns take advantage of what they take 515 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 6: advantage of it, but they are the ones who have, 516 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 6: you know, in the messaging because of game day, because 517 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 6: of all the games, they have their messaging and their 518 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 6: wording and like anything in our country. You know this 519 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 6: from working I mean from working on shows. What people 520 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 6: hear every day is what they believe. And you're just 521 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 6: sitting and sending that messaging every day, every day, every day, 522 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 6: and ESPN is just controlling it more and more. 523 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: So, what's the thing you think people believe about college 524 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 3: football that's not actually true? Because as you talk about this, 525 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: it's really interesting the juxtaposition between what we're told, which is, hey, 526 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 3: college football playoffs expanded for the first time ever. We've 527 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: got twelve teams, more people than ever have a chance 528 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: at a national championship. But in reality, based on what 529 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 3: you just said, the opposite is also true. Fewer teams 530 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: than ever, fewer leagues than ever have the ability to 531 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 3: compete on an even playing field. So in some ways 532 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 3: it's become much more exclusive. But that's one takeaway. What's 533 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: the thing that you think, I think is maybe the 534 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: biggest misconception about college football. 535 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 6: Today that there's parodies. There's not parody, there never has been. 536 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 6: There's the haves and the have not And I think 537 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 6: that's why we got to be careful that we don't 538 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 6: just keep stretching. 539 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: At so much. 540 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 6: Before there was there was a disparity, but it wasn't 541 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 6: as great as it is now, and we're only making 542 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 6: it worse. We need to go back and balance it 543 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 6: up and make it fair across the board, just like 544 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 6: you do pro sports, in my opinion, But you know 545 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 6: what you were saying there a minute ago, is I mean, 546 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 6: you know, the other legs are getting in the playoffs 547 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 6: with they never some of them weren't ever in before. 548 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 6: But there's also three and four SEC teams three and four, 549 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 6: Big ten teams are more. So it's only and then 550 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 6: so they're getting dispersal the money, so it's only going 551 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 6: to make their value grow more, which is going to 552 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 6: create more disparity in what's going on. And that's where 553 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 6: the balance has got to come. We have to get 554 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 6: revenue sharing. We got to get balanced, and then who 555 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 6: cares where they come from? Just so kids are playing 556 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 6: and they are getting that and when we're forgetting the 557 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 6: education part. I know it's business, but there's still a 558 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 6: part of this that there's a lot of opportunity. If 559 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 6: we're not careful, here's my fee, we're going to destroy 560 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 6: all of college football. I'm talking about twenty years from now, 561 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 6: because here's what happened. We keep saying to these teams 562 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 6: right now, all right, you know you're you're going to play. 563 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 6: You're gonna not schedule any FCSD and everybody hates the 564 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 6: FDF game. All right, But where do they get their 565 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 6: money from? When you go pay in a half two 566 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 6: million dollars, it helps them make a budget. Okay, then 567 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 6: they take that budget and then they go play a 568 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 6: Division two team. Division two plays Division three. Well, the 569 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 6: money gets this first as opportunities for kids to get education, 570 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 6: for the sport to grow. And listen, let me ask 571 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 6: you something, where, all right, there is no more Bobby 572 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 6: Balden who came to Samford University. There's no Jimbo Fisher 573 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 6: who came from Stanford and Salem College. There's no Nick 574 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 6: Saban who came from Kent State. I mean, you know, 575 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 6: all your coaches, a lot of the parts of the game. 576 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 6: If we're only making it for the upper teams and 577 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 6: these lower levels, where's the money going to come from 578 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 6: for them to survive? And then all right, when kids 579 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 6: gonna have opportunity, what's going to happen to the game 580 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 6: of football? They're gonna say, listen, there's not the scholarship 581 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 6: opportunities out there. Because we all talk about Division one, 582 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 6: but there's one Double A. There's the Mid Atlantic Group, 583 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 6: the mid Group. There is Division two, there's Division three, 584 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 6: there's Anaia. Well, that's a lot of opportunities the kids 585 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 6: get education, playball and learn the game and be coaches 586 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 6: and then you know, grow the game. Well, if those 587 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 6: opportunities aren't there because those programs are dying, then what 588 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 6: the kids start doing twenty years Well, I still play soccer. 589 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 6: There's more scholarships there, there's still play other sports and 590 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 6: at hots the game of football. Know, people think that 591 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 6: may be a little rash, I don't twenty twenty five 592 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 6: years down the road, because if all the money phase 593 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 6: at the top, it's never going to filter down. You 594 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 6: gotta filter the money down. 595 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: What you're saying might seem rash to use your word, 596 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: but twenty twenty five years ago, if you told people 597 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: what it would look like today, I think they might 598 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: have thought that that was quite stark from what the 599 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: reality was, because it was. It's not. It's a completely 600 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: different sport today. The money is at a completely different level. 601 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: Players are paid, some would suggests rightfully so. But to 602 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 3: the point, it's not about whether the player should be paid. 603 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: It's about what the impact is on the sport itself 604 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: and what will happen to the future of this incredible 605 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: sport that's interwoven into the fabric of American Call Jimbo Fisher. 606 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: I think he raised a lot of very important points. 607 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 3: And I'm glad you said that you came from Sanford, 608 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: because I was going to say, are you defending D 609 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 3: two schools? As somebody who loves college football as a 610 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 3: former Stanford quarterback. So you know, I'm glad that you 611 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 3: still represent your alma mater that way. Thank you very 612 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: much for joining us. I guess the last question will be, 613 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: with all that said, all those concerns you have about 614 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: the future of college football, will you still watch the 615 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: Notre Dame game tonight? 616 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, we will all watch the gay love. I mean, 617 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 6: college football is it's still the best thing in business. 618 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 6: I mean, that's the thing about it. It's amazing. We've 619 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 6: got all these issues and it's still the best game 620 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 6: out there and we want to watch it. I'm definitely 621 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 6: gonna watch it, and I'm anxious to watch it. 622 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: Who do you think wins the national Championship? 623 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 6: Wow? I tell you what, this there may be more 624 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 6: parody this year than there's ever been. I mean, you 625 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 6: got to say Oregon because they've ever come every obstacle. 626 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 6: But I think somebody's gonna make a run at this 627 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 6: thing because of the way the layout of the playoff is. 628 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 6: There's gonna be somebody we didn't think it was gonna win. 629 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 6: I mean, it's gonna be somebody decides the top ranked 630 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 6: team in my. 631 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: Opinions, Well, you heard Jimbo Fisher there, coach, thank you 632 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: very much for the time. Enjoy the college football plaoff, 633 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: Enjoy the holiday season. Best of luck to you and 634 00:28:59,560 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: your family. 635 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 6: Happy holidays, y'all. Thank you for having me. 636 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: It's Jimbo Fisher national championship winning coach at Florid State University, 637 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: which I should point out is mild and mutter and 638 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: so we appreciate coach Fisher for the national Championship of 639 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: Florida day and appreciate his time today. I'm Eric Eggers 640 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: Peter Schwisers here as well. We're filling in for Sean Handy. 641 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this. 642 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: Serrik Eggers, and we are filling in on the Sean 643 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: Hannerdy Show. More guests to come. We're also going to 644 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: track this situation happening in Germany. It is a time 645 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: of Christmas, a time of holiday and family cheer. Unfortunately, 646 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: it's also the time of attack. This town in Germany, Magdeburg, 647 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: which is outside of Berlin. Apparently there was a confrontation yesterday, 648 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: I believe, between some migrants in the town and the 649 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: local population, and then somebody came back with a vehicle 650 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: and drove through the Christmas market reports are at least 651 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: eighty people injured in fatalities as well. Local officials are 652 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: describing it as a quote unquote, not as an. 653 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 3: Accident, appears to being attack. And another point that's being 654 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: made is because the confrontation yesterday was through a group 655 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: of immigrants and the natives who were celebrating their Christmas 656 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: market in Germany. And if this attack, and we're not 657 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: saying it was, but if this attack was actually perpetrated 658 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: by an illegal migrant, people in Germany are not allowed 659 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: to share the video because it would be construed as 660 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: negative content about illegal migrants, which is part of the 661 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: which isn't prohibited because of censorship laws there. And it's 662 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: just an interesting comparison to what we've been doing on 663 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: this program and the freedom we have and the transparency 664 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 3: that we have. I mean, we're going to have Nancy Mace, 665 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: a member of Congress on who voted against the proposal 666 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 3: that was backed by a president and people can go 667 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: back and forth. That's the freedom we have in this country. 668 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: And it's wild. It's a tragedy in Germany, but it's 669 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: not only a tragedy because of that event, but because 670 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: of the culture that are around that event, and. 671 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: You can't have a conversation about that event, so stick 672 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: with us. We appreciate you taking the time to join us. 673 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: We are going to be taking phone calls as well. 674 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: Right if you have theories on the drone, call us 675 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: at one eight hundred ninety four one seven, three two six. 676 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: We'll be back in a minute with Congresswoman Nancy Mace