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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up?

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Speaker 1: Straight fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: March twenty two. On Monday in Sports, I came off

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Speaker 1: that n C A tournament weekend, thinking, alright, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: a lot of tournament this week. I'm so geek for

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Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen records. Scratch Matt Ryan on the room

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Speaker 1: from Atlanta to Indie. What's Atlanta gonna do? Are they

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Speaker 1: gonna get Baker Mayfield? No Marcus Mariota, Lebron Monday Night

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Speaker 1: back in Cleveland, huge game from Lebron. Seventy six fans

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Speaker 1: all up in my mentions Monday night about the chaos

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Speaker 1: in Philly, No Harden, no Embiid, Sixers take down the heat. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was a great Monday in sports. Hope

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Speaker 1: It was. It's pretty darn good. I gotta say that. Um.

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Speaker 1: But before I get to the biggest couple of stories

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Speaker 1: His name is Scoop Brandon Robinson. You know him. I

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Speaker 1: think we had him on last year or maybe year

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Speaker 1: had him on my old radio show a bunch. She's

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Speaker 1: a good dude, knows the NBA. We greatly disagree on

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Speaker 1: the greatness of Kyrie Irving, and we've spent you know,

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Speaker 1: a little time on that. I'm not gonna say it

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Speaker 1: gets heated because, like listen, he's a pretty chill guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty laid back. Y'all know that. No, I'm not

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Speaker 1: laid back. I'm kind of like, I want to be

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Speaker 1: like to think I am. And my friends who listened

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Speaker 1: I'm not as laid back as I like to think

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Speaker 1: I am. That being said, I think you'll enjoy the

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving discussion, the Lebron discussion. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: let me just quickly before I get to the biggest

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Speaker 1: NFL move, how about Lebron going back to Cleveland dropping

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Speaker 1: a thirty eight, twelve and eleven trip dub Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 1: team high plus twenty three. He actually shot fifty percent

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Speaker 1: from the field. Russ and Lebron of course, had the

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Speaker 1: dunk of the night, arguably one of the best dunks

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Speaker 1: of the season in the NBA, detonating on Kevin Love,

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Speaker 1: his former teammate, Uh, listen, it was. It was a

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Speaker 1: pretty great win for the Lakers. I know it's only

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Speaker 1: the Cabs, you say, Well, listen, they're one of the

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Speaker 1: top six seeds in the East. Okay, They're a pretty

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Speaker 1: good team. And it was a nice win for the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: They needed it because Portland's refuses to go away. Portland

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Speaker 1: picking up a nice win. I'll quickly just give some props. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and react. So the guys who were kicking in for

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Speaker 1: the Sixers were like, Quirk Mas hit a bunch of threes.

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Speaker 1: He shake Milton, who basically will never play when Harden

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Speaker 1: and Beater back Tyrese Maxie of course had a monster game.

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Speaker 1: Tobias Hair is still kind of lost in the shuffle.

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Speaker 1: George's Niang had a good game. It was one of

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Speaker 1: the games where the Heat are like, oh, you don't

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Speaker 1: They're not locked in defensively. The Heat give up fifteen threes.

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Speaker 1: fans will think that's a good win, and yes, for

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Speaker 1: the record, it might be. But big picture, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: by the way, you lost with him against Toronto the

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Speaker 1: other night. So this let this idea that it's an

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Speaker 1: incredible win. Let's just pump the brakes. Big picture, I

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Speaker 1: on a hardened team before, right, But the biggest story

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Speaker 1: Monday in sports was Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan, who spent

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Speaker 1: winning that division. And no, I did not say that

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Speaker 1: Once again in the Tennessee Titans. I think the Colts

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Speaker 1: know who Aaron Donald was and all this nonsense like

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Speaker 1: that seems unbelievable. He had to be joking. And one

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Speaker 1: Rams at any rate, I think the Colts are a

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Speaker 1: a lot to like about this Colts team. And I

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Speaker 1: just want to remind everybody they're not playing the first

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Speaker 1: So I think the Colts have a legitimate shot to

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Speaker 1: Buffalo is probably gonna have the inside track. Buffalo is loaded.

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Speaker 1: That's not happening in that division. The Chargers, they're not

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Speaker 1: but for everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 1: how are you man? Staying awake, staying alive and uh

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Speaker 1: glad to be here with you brother. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: Brandon wants to reveal, their friends. Okay, and I've had

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Speaker 1: I when you when I want a nundisputed and said

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Speaker 1: that you know much heat I took from the online

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Speaker 1: whack jobs. These people just freaked out, like, are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? He hasn't won a playoff series? Scoop true

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Speaker 1: or false? When the Mavericks play the Jazz, the Mavericks

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Speaker 1: will have the best player on the floor in Luka

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Speaker 1: done true or false? You got what do you think

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Speaker 1: of Donovan Mitchell is better? I don't think Donovan Mitchell

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Speaker 1: is better. I think they're two different players and and

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Speaker 1: I have definitely so I think when you look at

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Speaker 1: what Luca Donte does, I hate comparisons, but I get

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Speaker 1: where you're going. I think Goodante is one of the

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Speaker 1: most complete players in the league, in the world where

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Speaker 1: everybody looks at hardened Ben Simmons, Lebron James, I would

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Speaker 1: say he's the most complete player on the cours the

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Speaker 1: go ahead well, obviously trying to say against the Suns again,

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul's outstanding, Devin Booker is tremendous, But the guy

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Speaker 1: who makes the most difference in that game will be

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Speaker 1: Luca Donte. And I know people are gonna want to

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Speaker 1: hear they can beat the Suns. I just point out

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Speaker 1: they lost to the Jazz twice earlier this year, two

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Speaker 1: close games, but they didn't have din Witty. They add

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Speaker 1: din Witty in the third meeting. Mavericks win that din

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Speaker 1: Witty Brunson, Luca, that triumvirate is very good. Then you

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Speaker 1: tossing like Phineasman, I'm bullish on the MAVs. If you

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Speaker 1: can't tell Scoop maybe too much, you're like the MAVs

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Speaker 1: and and they're full of brainiacs. And I'll add you

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Speaker 1: talk about Brunson, did you know that his dad, uh Rick,

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Speaker 1: who retired NBA player, is coaching Camden High School. He's

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Speaker 1: actually coaching the wand Wagner Jr. Yeah, Yeah, that that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a guy that's going to be a problem

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Speaker 1: in the league moving forward. But as it relates specifically

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Speaker 1: to your question about the Dallas Mavericks man. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Camda did loser Rose El Catholic and the New Jersey

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Speaker 1: State finals um the other day. But as llas Mavericks,

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Speaker 1: what I will say is this, man, I think that, um,

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Speaker 1: these guys are like they're they're like. I think they

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Speaker 1: have a chance to be like the Bucks in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs last year. If you let them hang around, they'll

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Speaker 1: snipe the A S s. By the way, how many

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Speaker 1: for you little Wagner? What years at Camden? I believe

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Speaker 1: he's a junior here and Lebron James Jr. Or Ronnie

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Speaker 1: James are the same age, so next year is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a big year, their senior year in their respective schools.

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Speaker 1: And I've been hearing around different places from from different

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Speaker 1: people as it relates to Bronnie James, that there is

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Speaker 1: some interest and potentially leaving Sierra Canyon and going to

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Speaker 1: Lebron James is uh St Vincent St. Mary's High School

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Speaker 1: in England his senior year. Heard that from a couple

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Speaker 1: of different people. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, So

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Speaker 1: if he would he would leave now his dad's staying

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Speaker 1: with the Lakers. Obviously, course he's gonna go to Ohio

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Speaker 1: by himself heard that there's interest and potentially making that

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Speaker 1: happen for they fell in the tournament. He out here. Um,

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Speaker 1: I watched some of their you can watch the games

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. You know he's a he's a good young player. UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's not like one, two or three option

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Speaker 1: on that stack team. I mean, they were one of

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Speaker 1: the best teams in the country. UM, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Let's not talk about le bronze kid. He's too young.

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Speaker 1: He's still junior in high school. All right, I want

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Speaker 1: to quickly pivot over to the East hottest team in

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Speaker 1: the league. I think you and I would both agree

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Speaker 1: Boston Celtics. Correct, they're hot right now. They've they've they've

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Speaker 1: the second half of the season has been there. The

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Speaker 1: world has been near oyster. I mean, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a team that that struggled ninth, tenth and and have

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Speaker 1: have propelled last I checked all the way up to

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Speaker 1: the fourth seed. You gotta give credit with credits, dude

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Speaker 1: number one to their head coach, email Udoka. He's the

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Speaker 1: fliest guy in the world because his his lady is

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Speaker 1: me alone. I remember those episodes of Fresh Principle Man

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Speaker 1: sir um. But you know, as it relays specifically to

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Speaker 1: the Celtics, Jason Tantum and and and as well as

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Speaker 1: Jalen Um have have really come together done what they

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Speaker 1: needed to do. Defensively, you know where they stand with

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Speaker 1: Marcus Smart. But ultimately I think that they're They're one

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Speaker 1: of those teams that if you let them, if you

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Speaker 1: sit around, you let them linger, that they'll they'll they'll

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Speaker 1: do what they have to do. So um, I do

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Speaker 1: like the Balls and Celtics. I think they're hot. Fox

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Speaker 1: first round matchup happens Celtics Sixers, now we would need

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Speaker 1: the Bulls to improve a little bit. I hope the

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Speaker 1: Bulls don't match up with the Celtics, but I think

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Speaker 1: Celtics take down the Sixers. It's a bad matchup. Philly

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Speaker 1: has hardened and beat and will drill down on them

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Speaker 1: in a sex but their wings can't match up with

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Speaker 1: Tatum and Brown. It is a mismatch there. And you

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Speaker 1: know this is a wing league, It's not a Big

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Speaker 1: Man League. I know that your Ki jan Jana is

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Speaker 1: in a beat, is a wing lead still in the playoffs. Well,

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Speaker 1: the thing that I that I liked about the Sixers

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Speaker 1: pre hard and trade on Num on one is their

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Speaker 1: level of rallying together without Simmons are and I think,

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Speaker 1: but however, Tyrese Naxi was shining in those instances alongside

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Speaker 1: Joel Embiid. What I have founded just from from watching

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Speaker 1: once Harden came in is I feel like at times, Um,

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Speaker 1: Tobias Harris has not clicked on those cylinders at times

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Speaker 1: just so generous. Come listen to terrible fit for Tobias.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's an interesting fit. I also don't want

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Speaker 1: to get no phone calls, so I but this is

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Speaker 1: what I say when I look at the seventies Sixers

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Speaker 1: um at large, UM, I do think that hardened. I

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Speaker 1: watched them in person against the bulls. I watched them

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Speaker 1: in person against the nets. The bulls was the better showing.

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Speaker 1: But they were hurt. The bulls were hurt. You know

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Speaker 1: you without the cold, you were without um some of

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Speaker 1: those other key pieces. And I think of a healthy

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Speaker 1: Sixers squad. I think they gave up a lot in

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Speaker 1: the trade with Brooklyn. And one of the key things

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Speaker 1: that Harden does that helps is you draw the double

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Speaker 1: in the triple team, you kick out, you kick out

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Speaker 1: of the jumb in the triple team, and that's where

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Speaker 1: you find Seth Curry. That's where you find Andre Drummond.

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Speaker 1: And they gave up Drummond and they gave up Seth Curry.

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Speaker 1: So you know, when I look at the Sixers and

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Speaker 1: I look at what they how they match up against Boston? Yeah, Tatum,

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Speaker 1: Tatum King am on them all day, uh, as well

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Speaker 1: as Jalen Brown. But um, I like the Sixers and

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Speaker 1: a better matchup against the team like the Bulls because

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Speaker 1: they're young. The Sixers have been around for a while. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And just adding hard into that puzzle, you know, you

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Speaker 1: you add uh a less defensively uh capable uh hardened

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Speaker 1: as in comparative to Simmons. Uh and and and but

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Speaker 1: you get a guy who can score at will. But

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Speaker 1: How's yeah, that's a great point you made. How how

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Speaker 1: is this for a mindbender? You said? You know, Celtics

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Speaker 1: are young. Jayson Tatum has been to more Eastern Conference

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Speaker 1: finals than Joel embat Well. Yeah, And I mean in

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Speaker 1: his rookie year. He was going to exactly and Bead's

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Speaker 1: never been. What's that? You haven't seen the movie Baby Boy? Um?

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Speaker 1: I feel like I have, but not recently. How good

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Speaker 1: is it? I think it was a movie. I think

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Speaker 1: it was Baby Boy? And omar good is that? Tyrese? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Tyres And it was some guys that at the end

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Speaker 1: where were they were kicking over the garbage kids and

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Speaker 1: they took off their belt and Tyrese was about to

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Speaker 1: hit the kid with the belt like Spanco. And the

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Speaker 1: guy didn't flinch, and he said, you know, I like you.

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Speaker 1: You got hearts, got heart man, and you know so,

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Speaker 1: so let me ask on Tatum. Not only does he

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Speaker 1: have heart, I think he's the best one on one

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Speaker 1: player in the league. I think he's the best one

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Speaker 1: on one player since Kobe. And the reason people will

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Speaker 1: push back on hardening Kyrie, like Tatum has a post

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Speaker 1: game you know that right, like you can dump it down.

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Speaker 1: He's got the footwork down the baseline, turnaround, the drives,

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Speaker 1: the up and unders like he's got all that end

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Speaker 1: he can get it at the three point line and

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Speaker 1: go to work or hit the three. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Harden is not gonna do you in the post. You

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Speaker 1: can't say dump it down to Harden. That's not his game.

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Speaker 1: He's an outside pick and roll kind of guy. Kyrie,

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Speaker 1: I think it's the only legit challenger to Tatum is

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Speaker 1: the best one on one player in the league. Like Luca,

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Speaker 1: is really skilled and and he can. He has a

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Speaker 1: good post up game. But again, I think just from

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Speaker 1: a pure offensive standpoint, Tatum is un matched right now

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Speaker 1: in the league. See I hate those Kobe comparisons, but

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Speaker 1: I get where you're coming from because I remember for

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Speaker 1: a while people were looking at Devin Booker and trying

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Speaker 1: to compare him to Kobe, and then he kind of

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Speaker 1: addressed that and said, no, I'm not like Kobe on

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Speaker 1: my own. Man, When you're talking about Kyrie being, um

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Speaker 1: the best UH one on one if not Tatum, Um,

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Speaker 1: I agree, But you're only Dalan at this point, You're

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Speaker 1: only You've only seen Kyrie for half the season. But

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Speaker 1: I'll add that there was a point where you looked

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Speaker 1: at Kai and you looked at Steph Curry, and we

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Speaker 1: just assumed that Kyle was the best one on one

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Speaker 1: point guard, the best scoring point guard. And then Kyle

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Speaker 1: got hurt in the finals, and then you had Steph Curry, who, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, won multiple finals. And so when you look

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Speaker 1: at Tatum, I think that's an interesting concept. I think that, Um,

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Speaker 1: the post game that you speak of, I think I

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Speaker 1: think he's I think he's well very and he's just

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Speaker 1: so young, you know. I think that when you look

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Speaker 1: at Tatum, and I think when you look at the Celtics, UM.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I think I'm happy that

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Speaker 1: Kyrie sat out in the playoffs when Tatum was playing,

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Speaker 1: it's because I don't think you would have seen his

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Speaker 1: brilliance when the three of those guys, Tatum, Brown, ky

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Speaker 1: We're all playing together, and I don't think we'd be

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Speaker 1: having this conversation in two had that not taken its

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Speaker 1: course in seen. So I take my hat off the

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Speaker 1: Tatum and I like the way that the Celtics are

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Speaker 1: getting it done this season with a new head coach,

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Speaker 1: a new front office. And yeah, I can see your

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Speaker 1: point of view. I'm gonna watch it a little bit

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Speaker 1: more before I definitively say that, because as you were

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Speaker 1: asking me, I was like, but where does Devin book

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Speaker 1: Booker fit into this? But he's up there. Yeah, definitely

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Speaker 1: up there. Um My only's not really an issue. It's

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Speaker 1: that he know he was great, but he couldn't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you could take Phoenix anywhere really until Chris

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Speaker 1: Paul got there. And that's not a knock. He was

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Speaker 1: a young guy. But I thought Tatum was the alpha,

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Speaker 1: even though Isaiah Thomas was I think an All NBA

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Speaker 1: that year, but Tatum has been. It's been his team

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Speaker 1: since then. Um But at any rate, I did bring

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Speaker 1: up Tatum to kind of slowly back into Kyrie. I

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Speaker 1: knew what she was doing. I was, so I had

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Speaker 1: to pop up Kyrie a little bit. Now you said

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Speaker 1: he's only played half the season, Scoop, I'll ask you this,

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Speaker 1: that's because that's been his choice, right. I mean, if anything,

633
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: I could argue that one of the reasons that James

634
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: Harden wanted the hell out of there was because Kyrie

635
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: wasn't willing to get vaccine. They didn't play all the games.

636
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you that that's not the case. Could

637
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: say more. Steve Nash and James Harden weren't getting them

638
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: all so so Kyrie had nothing to do with it.

639
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: Years the two of them are cool. I can tell

640
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: you that on record, telling them are cool. The issue

641
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: was Steve Nash and James Harden and in turn the

642
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: fact that Kevin Durant basically was pushing the Nets management

643
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: to make that trade for James Harden last season or

644
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: right you know, when the season was going on. That's

645
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of why they were on the outs because it

646
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: made him look bad on his job. You go back

647
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: and you look at Jared Allen. You go back and

648
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: you look at Carris Laverne. Wait wait, wait, hold on.

649
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: Durant pushing for the Harden trade made who looked bad,

650
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: made Durant looked bad to his employers because because last year,

651
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: when James Harden was playing for that team, he was

652
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: playing even though Steve Nash was the head coach, he

653
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: was playing with it and Mike D'Antoni system. This was

654
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Houston all over again. This season, the playbook shifted much.

655
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: That's not a Mike D'Antoni system anymore. Mike D'Antoni is

656
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: now um a consultant with the New Orleans Pelicans. If

657
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: you remember I broke that over the summer that he

658
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: was having conversation Pelicans really wanted him as a head coach.

659
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: Two seasons ago, he and David Griffin go back. So

660
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: as it relates specifically to the Nets this season, Nash

661
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: and and Harden were clashing a great deal. While Harden

662
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: publicly was upset about the fact that Kyrie was vaccinated,

663
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: ultimately it was Nash and many things behind that. Interesting, yes,

664
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: because there were reports that I mean not really reports,

665
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: but like they straight up asked, hey, or not asked,

666
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: but Steve Nash essentially said we're not trading James Harden.

667
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: Did he not? He did? That? Was so? Was that

668
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: just smoke screen? Bs? Now? I know since Nash has

669
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: been called out for the whole Yeah, we're gonna see

670
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: Ben Simmon Sudan. No, he just had an epidural shot

671
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. Um, but you said you're saying

672
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: no issues with Harden and Kyrie. No, none, I can

673
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: tell you that. Interesting. How uh what do you think

674
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: about Kyrie? And you know Kevin Durant and you know

675
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: they got there what two years ago? Um? And uh, Carrie?

676
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: How many playoff games he put? Was it three? Four?

677
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: Maybe five? They won the first round series? Yes, game four,

678
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 1: game five, I think it was game three because they

679
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: were up to nothing and he gets hurt in Game

680
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: three and then it was yeah, Um, what's the deal?

681
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: And I know we can never really say what the

682
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: deal is with injuries, but what do you think white

683
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: Kyrie for some reason is always injured in the postseason. Yeah,

684
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: if you go back to my reporting, Um, although I

685
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: have a relationship, I have a job to be honest. Um.

686
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: And so what I'll say to you is that, Um,

687
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, I did a I

688
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: did a segment at Valley where I said, it's put

689
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: up with shut up town for Kyrie. Um, that this

690
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: is the year vaccination injuries in the past. Nobody wants

691
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: to hear that and that and that winning cures all.

692
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: And this was before he decided to come back, and

693
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: ultimately him being back. I will say to you, UM,

694
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: that one if you go back to my reporting, even

695
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: about how things were going with his decision as to

696
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: why he wanted to not take the vaccine, he doesn't

697
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: really trust me Western medicine because of past issues as

698
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: it relates to getting hurt in the finals. Um, even

699
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: when he got that knee surgically repaired, they had to emball,

700
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: then they had to surgically repair that screw. Um that

701
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: that that was in his knee, and so I can

702
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: tell you that even like his dad and his sisters

703
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, in his family, they when they

704
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: get headaches, they don't like taking asper. That's just something

705
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: that that is just a family thing that I know

706
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: for a fact. But I think ultimately, when it comes

707
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: down to his play style, I think he's one of

708
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: the most dynamic players in the NBA, but injuries has

709
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: always been his achilles hell. And I think that if

710
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: the Nets do win this season or next season, um,

711
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the criticism that that he

712
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: gets UM kind of change a little bit. Like I

713
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: think this season is more to his speed than last

714
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: season because you added some pieces. You bring in Lamart's

715
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: Aldridge who retired last season. You you have who can

716
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: help Blake Griffin at times. He struggled in the post

717
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: in the playoffs against Milwaukee. UM, I think that you know,

718
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: you have questions about Joe Harris, who hasn't played a lick.

719
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: I think he's done for the year. I mean, you're right,

720
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: but this is all about Kyrie, right with him. Last

721
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: year they obliterate the Bucks twice up to nothing. Bucks

722
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: end up winning the title, but come on, the next

723
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: were the best team. So it comes back to Kyrie

724
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: likes I don't know, and James because he got hurt

725
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: within three seconds, James, and James was hurt. He did

726
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: play through, he did play through it. He wasn't as effective,

727
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: but he was good. And I think it was game seven, right,

728
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: It was a game six played a million years ago.

729
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: But I remember he did come back, but he still

730
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: wasn't He wasn't on, but he was good. But Katie, listen, no,

731
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you know that's not a bad loss

732
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: for for Harden and duran Um giving without Kyrie because

733
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: with him, you know, they're dominant, just like the Lakers

734
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: with a D. But um, I do want I don't

735
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: know how to say this delicately, but I what is

736
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: the deal with online love from NBA folks and the

737
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: Gibrones on NBA Twitter. Why do they love Kyrie Irving

738
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: so much? It is weird? Man Scoop. If you if

739
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: you were in a coma for ten years and you

740
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: just woke up and you went on the Internet and

741
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: you were seeing watching a couple of games and seeing

742
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: the reaction, you would think Kyrie was the best point

743
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: guard in the NBA. You would think he's better than Currie,

744
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: He's better than CP three. You would think he's amazing

745
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: and that, And the fact is he's been All NBA.

746
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: Look at this All NBA second Team once, All NBA

747
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: thirt team twice. Like he's a really good player. He

748
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: had a great gig shot to beat the Warriors in

749
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: the finals. But I mean even even Born being on

750
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: the top seventy five list over Clay Thompson, it's like

751
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: kind of insane. He was on the list. They scratched them.

752
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: He was only original list. They scrassed him. I'll tell

753
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: you that. But you know, as as it relates specifically

754
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: to your question about the love, I think he is.

755
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: He is the new age version of and One Mixtape

756
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: that Love. Um, I think you know. I'm a child

757
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: of the nineties. I was born in the eighties, but

758
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: I remember Alan Iverson crossing people over was worth more

759
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: than Tim Duncan winning multiple championships. Um. I think I

760
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: think the styles is in play here. I think that also, Um,

761
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: Kyrie is, in some people's eyes, I believe the the

762
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: bad boy of the NBA, so to speak, in that

763
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: he is counter cultural to what everybody else is doing,

764
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: and he stands on it and that that is respectable

765
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: to young people to be countercultural. UM. But also his

766
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: sneaker cell he and Kate Sneakers have all these different

767
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: colors in it. Their teammates. Uh. Kyrie is also um

768
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: and many people's eyes solid because he gets back to

769
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: his community. Um, he's playing for the hometown team, so

770
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: to speak. UM. He also UM, I know this is radio.

771
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: He doesn't give a sugar honey iced tea and some aspects,

772
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: but in actuality he does. I think he sees the world,

773
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: the world bigger than just putting a basketball through a who.

774
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: I think that he sees it from a lens of UM.

775
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: He his family, UM, and I think also has done

776
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: a lot seen and unseen for people who are close

777
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: to him, and I think those are the people who matter.

778
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: He definitely gives back a lot. Fox Sports Radio has

779
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all

780
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and

781
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app search f s R

782
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: to listen live. It almost sounds like he's maybe keeping

783
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: it too real. Is that possible? I don't know if

784
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: I would go with that. I think he's not like

785
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: real stupid. You know, the joke keep. I think we

786
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: tried that with Alan Averson. I think that we are

787
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: in a in a space now where Kyrie embodies Will

788
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: Smith making it to the NBA profess prince. I mean,

789
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: you look at how he grew up. He grew up

790
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: with with a couple of pennies to rub together. Um,

791
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: he is being himself, He's being creative, and I think

792
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: more than anything else, I think that that is endearing

793
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: to people. I also think that with the mandates in

794
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: New York City, people are now questioning is it fair,

795
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: Um that you can sit courtsided from a game, but

796
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: you can't sit with your teammates. But you can play

797
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: on the role, but then the team it's fine, fifty

798
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: thou for bringing him into the life room. New York

799
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: and l A are just very different. And that's the

800
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: team he chose. And I also think you gotta remember this,

801
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: This is not a a a jail sentence. This is

802
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: just a rule to to to play in the game.

803
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: He did not follow that rule. And and and this

804
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: is I think a moment for young people that just

805
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: because you are a star doesn't mean you can necessarily

806
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: get start treatment all the time. And I think that

807
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: in this instance, a rule as a rule and you

808
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 1: have to follow it, and I guess some people feel

809
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: like rules are made to be broken. I think in

810
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: the case of Mayor Eric Adams, he also comes from

811
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: a law enforcement background, and if you just let Hikayrie

812
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: play UM, You're gonna make a lot of police officers

813
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: are angry. And so I think in this instance with Kai,

814
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: I think he is maybe just keep endearing and and

815
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people respect it. But I just think

816
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: that UM COVID is just an interesting and interesting thing.

817
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: I don't report the weather, and I'm not in science,

818
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: but UM, I think there's a lot of layers that

819
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: go into this whole thing. Oh you really are not

820
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: looking into science and biology. I thought that was like

821
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: your part time job there. And I'm the worst. I

822
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: would the worst UH science student. In high school I

823
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: had to take UH. I had to take physical science

824
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: like two times once who failed it, failed it in

825
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: summer school, and then had to take it again. And

826
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: so in my sophomore year, I can count money, I

827
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: can I can I know history. But you know, all right,

828
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: we'll wrap up with this. UM, give me your your

829
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: first team all nba um wow. UH center is the

830
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: toughest one. Right, So center would be and beat over

831
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: your kitchen. Yes, oh interesting, I'll be honest. That's that's

832
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: a mouth surprised to me. I go Yoki. Small forward

833
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: would be Kevin Durant. Okay, point guard would be John Morant.

834
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: Oh boy, spicy shooting guard. Sure you got me thinking,

835
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: because because there's we are positionists. But it should just

836
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: be two guards, two forwards in the center, right yeah, uma,

837
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: oh boy from Chicago Derosion is the shooting guard. Oh

838
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: my goodness. Okay, So then your other forward is I'm

839
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: assuming your honest. You have to be, even though I

840
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: look at him as at the three honest would be

841
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: the powerful interesting couple, so quick, couple of counters. No,

842
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: Luca don Chech on the first team. He's the only

843
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: one of those guys who's not playing with another All Star. Actually,

844
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: I believe Yokich was Aaron Gordon ever an All Star.

845
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if. Okay, So that would mean Luca's

846
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: the only guy without an All Star. Luca's at twenty

847
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: nine uh nine and eight um. Kevin Durant hasn't even

848
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: played enough games to register for among the leading scorers

849
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: in the league. He has played below the minimum. So

850
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: I'm shocked you at Katie over Lebron. Yes, I would

851
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: say right now, Katie's a phenomenal player obviously, but I

852
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: got Lebron in there. I don't know how you don't.

853
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: That's a stunner to me. And then I guess I

854
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: can understand some of the job Morant love, but I

855
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: thought Curry would have been everybody's point guard. Now the

856
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: injury and if he doesn't play again, only sixty four games.

857
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: You know John Rand Obviously John Ran missed some time,

858
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: but he'll play over sixty. People's attention spans go into

859
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: that as well as as well as the amount of

860
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: eyes that he gets on social media. He has like

861
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: a half matter. That's that's how these guys are voting now.

862
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: So when you look at John Moran and you look

863
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: at what he did during that stretch run where he

864
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: was doing what he was doing, he got a half

865
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Speaker 1: a billion views on so on all Twitter and Instagram platforms.

866
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Speaker 1: I know, I I saw that list, but Curry was

867
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: still number one, because you know the record and all

868
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: that craziness. But but I think it, but I think,

869
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: like you said, it depends on how long he's out

870
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: but I think he had his body of work and

871
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: what he's done so far this season, I think he

872
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: I think he definitely UM is in the conversation of

873
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: the people who vote UM. I just like John Moran,

874
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: I want to see something different. I want to see

875
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: something young and um you know that that that's my opinion.

876
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: But I have to give credit to Steph Curry and

877
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: I have to give credit to Lebron James. Lebron James,

878
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: you know, not only did he break the record, he's

879
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: been doing it, uh for so long, and I think

880
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: he's undervalue and and really and there's many years he's

881
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: been slided as the league's MV. We'll wrap up with

882
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: Lebrons as you brought him up. He's currently tied with

883
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: Embiid for the scoring lead. He at the age of

884
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: what is the thirty seven now he is averaging thirty

885
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: seven minutes per game, fourth in the league, and he's

886
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: tied for the league in scoring. Does this season do

887
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: anything to sway you in the goat discussion? And I'm

888
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: on record of saying once he won the title with

889
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: the Lakers, three titles, three different teams, he became the goat. UM.

890
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: Everything he does after that to me is gravy. But

891
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: does this season do anything for you? In that discussion,

892
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: by the time Jordan was thirty seven, I think he

893
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: had already quit twice. No mhm, but can he what

894
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: can he do? If anything? I think that Lebron James

895
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: is this generation's go. Michael Jordan's was my generation and

896
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: your generation's go. Lebron James is this generation's Michael Jordan's.

897
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I think Lebron is Lebron,

898
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: Michael is Michael And what a fence sitting cop out.

899
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a fair nothing wrong with that. But

900
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If Michael Jordan is the gold standard

901
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: for winning and success, I also feel like this. I

902
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: feel like Kareem Abdul Jabbar is often slided, and there's

903
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: a reason why. Kareem not only just being a Laker

904
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: known as a Laker more than he was as Luel

905
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: Cinder with the Bucks. I believe that people slide him,

906
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: and I think I think that as as much love

907
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: and as much credit as people give time Brady for

908
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: being who he is, Kareem was that before Brady. Yeah,

909
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: I guess the only counter would be you know, by

910
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: the way, gold standard for winning because he wins x

911
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: and in the finals. I ain't more impressive is Lebron.

912
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: Wherever he goes, he wins. That's almost impossible to like,

913
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: anywhere he goes, he's just gonna win. Um. But Jabbar

914
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: is tough. Like he was so much bigger than everyone

915
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: that they didn't they out love the dunk when he

916
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: was at U C. L A and and centers just

917
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: are the sexiest shooting guards and small forwards. But now

918
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: he was utterly dominant. One of my favorite players of

919
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: all time. I I kind of grew up when he

920
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: was at the very very end and I missed his dominance.

921
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: But like, he was just so much bigger than everyone.

922
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: It's not like there was ten seven footers in the

923
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: league in nineteen seventy four or whatever. Right, the fact

924
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: that we have to constantly argue about the force, the

925
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: argument that Lebron is the goat shows you that Michael

926
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: still the goat, because if you're the goat, you don't

927
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: have to force it and give arguments. No. Ilieve, yes,

928
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: I believe that Michael Jordan's was doing was the premier

929
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: shooting guard, was the premier swingman that was prototyped and

930
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: copied Penny Hardaway watched Michael Katy Uh, Kobe Bryant watch Michael.

931
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: Lebron watch Michael. I don't think that the Lebron Michael

932
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: comparison is a fair comparison because when I look at Lebron,

933
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: I look at Lebron Moore's a more was magic or

934
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: Oscar Robertson than I do Michael, and I looked at

935
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: I looked at Kobe and Michael as more of a

936
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: of a as an applicable comparison himself. Though yeah, I

937
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: mean I would agree that, uh, you know, obviously Lebron

938
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: it reminds people of magic, but magic was not super athletic.

939
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: That's version. He's a piece of he To me when

940
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: I look at when I look at Lebron, I feel

941
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: like as much as people idolize Michael in their day,

942
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: like my age with me and Lebron the same age

943
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: cash were looking at Scotty and Penny because of their

944
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: level of cool and being a six eight six nine

945
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: point forward. The snickers were stylished, the way he wore

946
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: his socks and he wore his shorts. I just think

947
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: Michael gets the attention because obviously Scotti is next to

948
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: Michael Scotty was just his dope in this How's style,

949
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: How's this counter? People all want to duplicate what m

950
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: J did because it's duplicatable. That's not even a word.

951
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, You can't duplicate six

952
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: eight to sixty with the speed of John Wall and

953
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: the body of Karl Malone. That's impossible can do that,

954
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: And that, to me is another reason that he's the goat.

955
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: Like you. What he's done is it's similar to the

956
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: Jabbar thing, Like Jabbar is just so much bigger. Well,

957
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: Lebron's stronger and faster. And now Janice on all honesty, Jannae,

958
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: he won't win the MVP this year. He's already got

959
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: two m vps, right, He's on track to win at three, four,

960
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: maybe five m vps, I don't know. And when you

961
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: think about it, Scoop like Janice eventually is going to

962
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: be one of these top fifteen players all time. Like

963
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: we know Curries there, Lebron's obviously there, Kobe's there, Durant

964
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: probably there. I think Durant, you know, I think that

965
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: he's got a decent case to be top ten by

966
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: the time he's done but Janice is headed there. People

967
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: aren't gonna like it because again, you can't duplicate six

968
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: eleven get from half court to the rim and what

969
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: two dribbles? Three dribbles? Yeah, but I also think when

970
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: you look at guys like Kevin Garnett, and you look

971
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: at guys like Kevin durand they made six and eleven

972
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: moving like guards cool. When I look at when I

973
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: look at when I look at James Harden, I'm not

974
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: comparing them, but Tracy McGrady made six eight point guard

975
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: or playmaking ability look cool? Um when I look at you.

976
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: When I look at Joannice, number one, my nephew thinks

977
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: his sneakers are uncomfortable. But aside from that, I like him.

978
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what's the brand? What do you say?

979
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: What brand is Nike? Nike? But but but when I

980
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: look at him as a player, I think the thing

981
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: that makes him so alluring and kind of interesting is

982
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: he kind of did it his way without kissing a

983
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: bunch of butt or like a lot of those guys

984
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: that are his peers don't revere him the same way

985
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: they revere Lebron. They don't revere him the same way

986
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: that they Revere Steph Curry, and I think part of

987
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: it is there's a cultural gap. I also think it's

988
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: because he plays in a small market. I also think

989
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: it's because he didn't do with the Buddy ball a

990
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: au sort of way. He did it straight from the muscle,

991
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: and he did it by calling the buff bluff because

992
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: the Miami thing was was a realistic conversation. But ultimately

993
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: he gave them an ultimatum. You get me a James Harden,

994
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: a Chris Paul or Drew Holiday or I may walk. Okay, So,

995
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: first of all, Scoop again, Janice only has the title

996
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: last year because Kyrie even got hurt. That's it. It's

997
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: like with the Raptors, like nobody even really thinks that

998
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: they won the championship that year. I know it really happened,

999
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: but if Kadi and Claire playing, what is that four

1000
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: zero for one? Come on right? So, like I would

1001
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: not be surprised if you honest never wanted it. But

1002
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: here's the thing, another one here, I don't think he's

1003
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: gonna get another twenty years from now. We're not talking

1004
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: about that. We're talking about that now. The same way

1005
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: that I feel like the same argument could have been

1006
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: made about the Rockets. They always say what they want

1007
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: to though, But yeah, but in ninety four, Michael was

1008
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: playing baseball. At ninety five, Michael did lose in the

1009
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: Semis though to the magic they want so, which means

1010
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: that should have could have would have would have been

1011
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: more of an argument than ninety four when they played

1012
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: the mix nine five. I would be with you if

1013
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: it was just one, but they wont to, like, you know,

1014
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: like that's it's like the whole k D thing, Like

1015
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: Katie was writing shotgun to Curry. No, he won finals

1016
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: MVP twice. That's not twenty years. We're not our kids.

1017
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: Our kids and our kids kids are gonna just look

1018
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: at the record book the same way we looked at

1019
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: our parents record book when the Lakers and the Celtics

1020
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: went over them. We don't care if Dennis Johnson played

1021
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: or didn't play. We don't care if Robert Paris played

1022
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: or didn't play. You know, we know that Magic Johnson

1023
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: is seventy nine when he came in nineteen eighty when

1024
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: Kareem got hurt, we know that he played center and

1025
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: they won. But too many people who are not basketball

1026
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: salvons like ourselves know what the Lakers season was like

1027
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: that year. All we know was the Lakers won that

1028
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: year fair. All we know is like, you know, all

1029
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: these titles. Jordan one it was after he won one

1030
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: against Magic. Then Magic, you know left the league back

1031
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: was broken and the Pistons, the Pistons got you know,

1032
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: got old after beating up on Jordan. Any you know

1033
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: the expansion era in the nineties. But I don't. I

1034
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: can't go now that we've taken you two long. Sco

1035
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: obviously will have you back, love love chatting up the

1036
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: NBA and uh you want to plug any of your

1037
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: many many jobs on here. Um Valley Sports is where

1038
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: you can find everything that I have going on. Follow

1039
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: me on Twitter and Instagram at scoop b Um, you've

1040
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: got a lot of I G followers. Man, Well you

1041
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: you grew up with Instagram right like you were in

1042
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: high school and you had an account or something. Bless

1043
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: your brother, I'm not that young. Um I got I

1044
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: got an Instagram and twenties, well you get tagged in

1045
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of posts for breaking stuff and then

1046
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: I remember like Thanksgiving weekend, one weekend I broke something.

1047
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: I had like four thousand followers By that Monday after Thanksgiving,

1048
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: I was up to nine thousand. Just well, yeah, good

1049
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: stuff man. We'll continue to success, Scoop, and keep up

1050
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: the good work. Brother. Thank you again for the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to be myself