1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: The Team forty seven podcast is sponsored by Good Ranchers. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Making the American Farm Strong Again. Team forty seven with 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck starts. 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Now, all of the jobs data was cooked, and it 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: was cooked in favor of Joe Biden for much of 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: the last year. They just came out and announced, actually 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: there were nine hundred and eleven thousand fewer jobs created 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: beginning in March of twenty four. I believe it was 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: all the way up to March of twenty five. This 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: matters because I think they were cooking the books to 11 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: try to make the economy look better for Joe Biden 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: when they thought that he was going to be running 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: and he was going to say, look at how many. 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: Jobs I've created. 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 1: Basically cuts in half the number of jobs that were 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: created and gives you, guys and all of us a 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: sense that the economy was not actually firing on all cylinders. 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: When Trump came into office in late January of twenty 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: twenty five, he was actually dealing with a very anemic 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: overall job picture. And it's evidence yet again that Jerome Powell, 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: the head of the FED, has been too late to act. 22 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Now there's expected to be a rate cut next month 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: there expected to be multiple rate cuts between now and 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: the end of the year. But Buck, this is your 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: lion eyes. Weren't lying to you when you were looking 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: around in November and saying, boy, it really doesn't feel 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: like this Biden economy is actually going that well. 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: Isn't it amazing how much they hid from the public 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: about Biden? 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: Really when you add it all together. 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: We talk a lot about the dementia and the too 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: old to do the job thing, but he had really 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: the last gasp, I think clay of the legacy media 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 3: running constant interference for him, and it even still wasn't enough. 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: Right. 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: They went all in on Biden, all in on the 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: Biden economy, all in on Biden's doing a great job. 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: You know, head, give a job Biden, and yet Trump 39 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: came in, destroyed him in a debate, and then Kamala 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: was their last minute, last hope. 41 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: It just goes to show you. 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: I don't think the the old media, legacy media, whatever 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: you want to call them, they're never recovering. It's this 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: never coming back. I think that Biden was their last 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: gasp of being able to direct national elections at some level, 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: to be able to, you know, cause a few percentage 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: points to go in one direction or another. And the economy, 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 3: the Biden economy, is just another example of the kind 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 3: of favoritism that they were always playing. 50 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. 51 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: There's anticipation of a rate cut. Look, this is something Clay, 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: we haven't talked about. Honestly, I think we got a 53 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: lot of things talk Betters. I'm going to say we 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: haven't discussed it enough, but we certainly could spend even 55 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: more time on housing. Affordability in this country is crazy 56 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 3: right now. You have to make double the money to 57 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: be able to afford based on rates and based on 58 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 3: the cost of buying a new home in general, double 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: the money you did what in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: It hasn't been that long a pre pandemic versus now 61 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: and them Median home prices I'm talking nationwide. Whether you 62 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: live in Oklahoma or Maine, or Arizona or California, whatever, 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: Nationwide home prices are at a place that seems unsustainable 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: and there's a lot of people priced out of the market. 65 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: So we got big problems there. Good things, though, are 66 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: happening in the economy and Let's talk first about where 67 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: wholesale prices are. Here go CNBC's Rick Santelly Clay talking 68 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: about where inflation is, where prices are Play clip one. 69 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: PPI hostsale inflation for August expected to be up three tenths. No, no, no, 70 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: down one tenth of a percent, down one tenth. 71 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: Wow. 72 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: That would be the first negative numbers since April of 73 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: this year, when it was minus two tenths. Strip out 74 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: food and energy. We're also expecting up three tenths. It's 75 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: minus one tenth as well, minus one tenth the same. 76 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: Last time we had a minus number was April, and 77 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: we're comping to minus two tenths in April. 78 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: Now the year over year, in my. 79 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: Opinion, these are the most important. Boy, I'm surprised. Real 80 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 4: progress here. Two point six on year over year headline, 81 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: we are expecting three point three in the rear view mirror. 82 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 4: Three point three. Two point six would be the lowest 83 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: since was two point four in June. 84 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: Clay, this is where the American people start chanting, slowly but. 85 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: Surely, rate cut, rate cut, rate cut, Well, they should 86 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: cut fifty basis points. And I'm looking as you're telling 87 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 1: us all this, buck, I'm looking at the current mortgage rates, 88 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: because this is the number one thing that I believe 89 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: is broken in our economy that Biden tanked. And I'll 90 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: explain it why in a minute. But according to the 91 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: numbers that I'm looking up right now, thirty year mortgage 92 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: is now around six point four to six point five percent, 93 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: a fifteen year is around five point six. Now that's 94 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: just me doing rapid search, So I don't want to 95 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: get deluged by all of you talking about what mortgage 96 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: rates you've got or what happens in your particular communities. 97 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: They're coming down, and this is really important, and I 98 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: don't think necessarily that communication on this has explained exactly 99 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: what happened, but many of you are living it. We 100 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: went in the most rapid fashion of most of our lives, 101 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: from two point five percent mortgage rates on a thirty 102 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 1: year to over well over seven percent, approaching eight percent 103 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: in the space of about a year. And that is 104 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: because Jerome Powell was far too late to recognize that 105 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,559 Speaker 1: inflation was becoming a major issue in this country. Remember Buck, 106 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: when he just kept saying it's transitory, it's transitory. 107 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: And then we went all the way. 108 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: I believe in June of twenty one, if I'm not mistaken, 109 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: or maybe it was June of twenty two to nine 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: point one percent inflation. 111 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: Which was worst in forty years. Forty years. 112 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: And it's not just that the inflation happened, it's that 113 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: it happened so rapidly that many people got handcuffed when 114 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: it came to buying or selling homes. And the number 115 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: one thing that would solve a lot of the issues 116 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: in the country today, and a lot of you out 117 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: there nodding along with me, is if mortgage rates came 118 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: back to a reasonable level where people who are ready 119 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: to sell their homes aren't looking around saying, man, I 120 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: can't even afford anything because I'm going to have to 121 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: give up a two and a half percent mortgage and 122 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: take on a nine percent more. You are an eight 123 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: percent mortgage. It's absolutely bonkers for you to do that. 124 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: And a lot of people got priced out because if 125 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: you didn't happen to get that two and a half 126 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: or three percent mortgage, then you're constantly chasing the market 127 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: because other people did. Now the result is, I think 128 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: we're going to get at least a twenty five basis 129 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: point cut next week. 130 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: Should be a fifty point basis cut, and. 131 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: I think we should have a one point overall cut 132 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: in interest rates before the end of the year, and 133 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: that will help to solve some of the log jam 134 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: in housing, which I would argue economically is the biggest 135 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: issue hamstringing a lot of people. 136 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: Look, we do get the emails and talkbacks from many 137 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: of you that are telling us, hey, guys, prices are 138 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: still really high. 139 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: Prices are still really high. We get it. 140 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: We know that is the reality of what happened during 141 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: the pandemic, which was printing trillions and trillions of dollars 142 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: and then Biden printing the two trillion right when he 143 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: came into off. This just adding gasoline to a fire 144 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: that was already raging. There is no free lunch. We 145 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: printed money without the attendant productivity behind it or the 146 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: goods and services behind it. We had rampant inflation, so 147 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: we've been paying for that, literally paying for that with 148 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: high prices. But the Trump economy is turning this around. 149 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: So it's not it's not that we're unaware or anything else. 150 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 3: It's that this takes time, but the data is moving 151 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: all of this in. 152 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: The right direction. 153 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: Side note Clay, it is still astonishing that half the 154 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: jobs in Biden's election year were fake jobs, as they've 155 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: now admitted. We mentioned this earlier in the week, but 156 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 3: I was reading a more detailed analysis of it this morning. 157 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: That is crazy. Put a pin in that though. 158 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: Wells Fargo's CEO somebody who has to look at the 159 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: macroeconomics of what's going on and has to deal with, 160 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 3: of course, mortgages and credit and all these different things. 161 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: Wells Fargo's a massive bank. I just think you should 162 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: hear from somebody who's, you know, not necessarily a guy 163 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: walking around in a maga hat. I don't know, maybe 164 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: he is not talking about where the economy is. 165 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: Play two. 166 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 5: In our own data, things are remarkably stable. Consumer spend 167 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 5: continues at the same year over year pace across almost 168 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 5: all wealth levels. Consumer credit is as good as it's 169 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 5: been in the last six months. In fact, it's probably 170 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 5: trending a touch better. Companies are in really great shape. 171 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 5: We look at signs for any kind of change and 172 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 5: you just don't see it. 173 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: And having said. 174 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 5: That, there is this big dichotomy between higher income and 175 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 5: lower income consumers which continues and is a real issue. 176 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: And when you look at just the overall data in 177 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 5: terms of jobs. It's undeniable in terms of just job creation. 178 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, things are actually feel very good today, certainly 179 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 5: relative to what you think they could be. 180 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: Thanks, feeling very good today. I mean, you know, look, 181 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: nothing's ever perfect with the economy. Click could always be better, 182 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: but here we are in September of Trump's first year. 183 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: It's moving the way it's supposed to be moving. 184 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, mortgage rates important. You hit on the second thing 185 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: that I think is important. Races are never coming back down. 186 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: And I think that is so challenging because people are 187 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: angry when they go to the grocery store, when they 188 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: go to fast food. Inflation is so toxic because basically, 189 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: once the prices are there, they never come back down. 190 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: And I don't think a lot of people recognize that 191 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: necessarily because to your point, Buck, we had two generations 192 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: where effectively we didn't have Biden era inflation, where we 193 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: didn't have Jimmy Carter era inflation. And a lot of 194 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: you who lived through the nineteen seventies that are listening 195 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: to us right now, you said, yeah, we dealt with 196 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: this for a long time. Inflation rates got all the 197 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: way up. I think to like seventeen percent, if I'm 198 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: not mistaken mortgage rates did. I mean, it's crazy when 199 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: you go back and look at some of the historical 200 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: economic data on this. 201 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: You also used to be able to get a return 202 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 3: on a savings account. I think in the teens, in 203 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: the eighties at one point, right, or maybe it was nine, ten, eleven. 204 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: I mean, there were times when you could put money. Now, 205 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: there was much higher inflation, but you could put money 206 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: in a savings account backed by the government and get 207 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: a return. 208 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: We've been in an. 209 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: Era now for years, maybe decades, where to get return 210 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: on your money. Essentially, most people end up putting it 211 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: in the market in some capacity because otherwise your money 212 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: is being inflated away all the time. But inflation is 213 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: a particularly pernicious thing because not only doesn't raise prices, 214 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: but it turns out to be a tax on wage 215 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: earners because they don't have the attended assets that get 216 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 3: inflated like home prices along with it, and if their 217 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: wages don't keep up, you just have less buying power, 218 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: which you feel when you're paying your rent, buying your groceries, 219 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: filling up the gas in your car. But it's a 220 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: long term thing. Right, or it takes longer to feel 221 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: that than it does the initial Let's just pay everybody 222 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: to stay home and then spend trillions and dollars under 223 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: Biden that we should never have spent totally. 224 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: And remember Biden wanted to spend five trillion and Joe 225 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: Manchin said, I can't go above one point nine. So 226 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: things would have acted actually been double digit inflation if 227 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: Biden had gotten what he wanted. But the anger, I 228 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: get it. You're never going to be able to buy 229 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: a Hamburger for the price that you did before COVID. 230 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: That's never going to occur. Your cereal is never going 231 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: to be the price that it was before COVID. Those 232 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: prices are now embedded thanks to Biden's economic failures, and 233 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: I think some people believed, oh, prices are going to 234 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: just go back to what they were in twenty nineteen, 235 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: and when you don't see it in your grocery bill, 236 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: that is frustrating to people. This is why it's so toxic. 237 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: This is why the Biden economy was so awful. Now 238 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: some places prices fluctuate more price of gas, for instance, 239 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: you are definitely feeling, hey, we're at four year lows 240 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: and what it costs to fill up the tank. But 241 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: the price on gas is far more of a fluctuating 242 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: factor than the price on groceries or the price on 243 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: fast food, which is where I think a lot of 244 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: people still and I'm in this camp just are are 245 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: frustrated every time you get a bill because things cost 246 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: way more than you think they should cost. And that 247 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: is a function of poor economic decisions, to your point, Buck, 248 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: that were led by the Biden administration. 249 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: I tell you, And I'm not not even talking about 250 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: our wonderful sponsor, Good Ranchers, although I am making one 251 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: of their stakes tonight for dinner, so I'll just throw 252 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: that in there, so I guess I am talking about them. 253 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: You go out to a restaurant these days and you 254 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: get a steak, and whether it's a good steak a 255 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: mediocre steak, I can't find a steak anywhere. And now 256 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: I know it's Miami, and you're gonna say it's expensive, 257 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: We're gonna be in Fort Wayne. I guarantee you if 258 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: we go out to the steakhouse in Fort Wayne, Clay 259 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: if Filay is like sixty five seventy bucks these days 260 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: for one for one, I mean, I remember you used 261 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: to go have a steak dinner for seventy dollars. I 262 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: know it sound like some guy from you from the 263 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: old olden days or something, but the price is food prices. 264 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: They can't hide from you and at a restaurant because 265 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: they have to add in all the attendant costs of 266 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: labor and tax and everything else. You can see what 267 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: they have to run up in order to run a business. 268 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you cannot get a file a in a 269 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: metro area of the United States, right, No, you can't 270 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: get like a decent steak for less than sixty bucks. 271 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: Really, I mean it's very hard to find. It is. 272 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: Again, everything costs more than it should. And to your 273 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: point on the fill a, we go to a restaurant. 274 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: I love it. It's in Franklin, Tennessee, right not far 275 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: from where we live, called the chop House. Not a 276 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: super fancy place, great service. I love this place. They 277 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: didn't know they were going to get a shout out. 278 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: My son ordered a filet a steak the other day. 279 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: We went to go eat there and the wager came 280 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: over and he said, Hey, I just want to let 281 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: you know this is the most affordable place like I 282 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: can think of where you can go sit down. He said, 283 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: the cost on our fill at is now over forty dollars. 284 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: We've had to keep changing that. It's not even included 285 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: in the menu now, and I think a lot of 286 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: you have probably experienced that where you go. I'm not 287 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: talking about how many ounces are we talking to? Are 288 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: we talking eight ounce ful a? 289 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: Look? I take my meat very seriously. We talking eight. 290 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: Ouns ten ounce fil a? I mean I want to 291 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: weigh an eight ounce fil a pretty easily. 292 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: We're not talking about the place where you had to 293 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: buy me the fancy steak and you're. 294 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: Still paying that off play. You want to talk about 295 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: mortgage rates. That's where all my money's. 296 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: Going after Biden dropped out of the race. We're not 297 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: talking about this. This is a great, really local establishment. 298 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: But I do think that many of you feel this 299 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: when you go in. The other thing that's happened is, 300 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: and this is me being a kind of looking at 301 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: the data, the difference between fast food and like casual, 302 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: sit down restaurant prices has almost vanished. Like you can't 303 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: eat affordably at fast food anymore. 304 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: I mean I order shakeshack here with Kerry sometimes and 305 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: it's fifty bucks. 306 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 307 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: I'm just getting two burgers and some fries. She always says, 308 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: don't get the fries. By the way, to all the 309 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: husbands out there, obviously we get the fries, you know 310 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: what I mean. Like they say, don't get the fries, 311 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: you get the fries, and they're happy you got the 312 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: fry when they're there. When those hot fries show fries 313 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: show up, no one's ever upset that you got them. 314 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: But people will tell you don't ever let and even 315 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: when you're out of the restaurant play important rule whenever 316 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: someone says, oh, we don't need the frize, yes, you do. 317 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: Always get these frize. You always get the prizes. 318 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and fuck 319 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: it has been a heck of a draining, emotional week 320 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: for so many of us across the nation. So many 321 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: of you want to weigh in, and so for the 322 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: next couple of hours legitimately full open forums, talkbacks, calls, 323 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: we are going to get as many of you in 324 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: as we can as we roll into the weekend. Point 325 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: worth discussing. And I was just joking about this off air, 326 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: because I do think we need a little bit of 327 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: levity in what has been a. 328 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: Very dark week. 329 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: President Trump woke up this morning after going to the 330 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: Yankee game last night and just rode his motorcade over 331 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: to the Fox studios on Sixth Avenue and set down 332 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: on the Fox and Friends couch and did an hour 333 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: of live unscripted television on all subjects under the sun, 334 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: including announcing that we had the assassin of Charlie Kirk 335 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: in custody. And we just came from a president that 336 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: basically could never do any media availabilities on any subject 337 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: and Trump just rolled in, set down on the couch, 338 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: a couch that I've said on a guest hosted Fox 339 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: and Friends on the weekend, and did an hour straight 340 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: of unscripted television. Buck And it wasn't very long ago, 341 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: about ten days ago, that everybody decided because he took 342 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: a weekend off from doing media, that he was actually dead. 343 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: And so I do think a big part of this 344 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: larger discussion needs to be how many people out there 345 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: consume audience, consume media that is consistently wrong about everything, 346 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: and yet they keep going back to it over and 347 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: over and over again in desperate demand for at some 348 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: point their fever dreams of delusion to be. 349 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: Certified. 350 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: And I do think that factors in here and one thing, Buck, 351 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: as we get ready to take as we get ready 352 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: to take some calls here and take some of your talkbacks, 353 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: I want all of you to think about this. Buck 354 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: has got a book out, so honestly, these are both 355 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: very timely books where he tries to get into tell us. 356 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 3: The name manufacturing delusion, how the Left uses brainwashing, indoctrination 357 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: and propaganda against you. I just wanted to be manufacturing delusion. 358 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: But subtitles apparently are helpful. 359 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: And my book, and that's a very August title. My 360 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: book is called Balls, and it's about how Trump, young 361 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: men and sports fans saved America. Okay, but I do 362 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: think that these are two different sides of the same coin, 363 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: much like this assassin is if you compare his life 364 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: to Charlie Kirkson. Let me let me just kind of 365 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: run through a little bit here. I feel immense sadness 366 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: for so many young men in America because there for 367 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: much of history, whatever you thought of politics, there was 368 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: a consistent expectation for men. You got married, you busted 369 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: your ass in a job, you had a job, to 370 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: try to take care of your family and provide a 371 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: better life for them going forward. 372 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 3: You might have to go to war. If you look generously, 373 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: you may have to go to get killed. 374 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: We had an experience and expectation of manhood that was 375 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: universally accepted across the political spectrum, whatever whatever you think. 376 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: In nineteen forty five, a Democrat and a Republican represented 377 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: by and large, there was an understanding of what manhood 378 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: was and what it represented. I think so many young 379 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: men in the wake of the me too and in 380 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: the toxic universe of this woke culture that has tried 381 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: to say manhood itself is toxic, the absence and continued 382 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: decline of religion, which helped to frankly allow the foundational 383 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: elements of the family, the nuclear family manhood. I think 384 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: there is a desperate yearning for meaning and I think 385 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk found it. Whatever you think about him, I 386 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: think he found a foundational core tenet of life that 387 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: led him in a productive way to get married, to 388 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: have two kids, to try to communicate to these lost 389 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: young men, a pathway to what he thought would be 390 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: a better life for them. 391 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 5: Well. 392 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: One thing that sorry, yes, one thing I was going 393 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 3: to say, Clay, that is so important when you look 394 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: at the competing narratives here about Charlie. There's our narrative, 395 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: which is rooted in reality of a man who did 396 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: it the right way, was an inspiration, was kind, reliable, 397 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: a father, all the things that we have said. So 398 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 3: I want to you know, you know how we feel 399 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 3: about Charlie. But what you'll hear from a lot of 400 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: people on the left, who of course don't know Charlie. 401 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: And this is always another thing, you know. I know 402 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: this a little bit of a digression. I know a 403 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: lot of people in media on the right, and I 404 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: know a lot of people on media and the left, 405 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 3: and the people on the right are almost always better people. 406 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you the truth, okay. I mean as people. 407 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about their talent. I'm not talking about 408 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 3: their paycheck or you know, their ratings or whatever. 409 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: But you know, as humans. 410 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 3: You you know, I was gonna tell you. You listen 411 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 3: to to this radio show. You listen to some of 412 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 3: our peers and radio and some of the people that 413 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: I won't name them, you know they are if they 414 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: were your neighbor, you'd be blessed if you had to 415 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 3: leave your kids with. You'd know that, you know, because 416 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: you had an emergency, you'd know that they'd be fine. 417 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 3: You know, you'd they'd probably get a home cooked meal 418 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: by the time you got home. Like they're good people, Okay, 419 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: they're at their core good people. There are a lot 420 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: of leftists who are truly lost and nasty human beings, 421 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 3: I'll just put it that way. A lot of leftists, 422 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 3: and it's true of the politicians as well. And you 423 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: see this, and you're aware of this perception. There is 424 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 3: a difference in the view of life. But Clay, we 425 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: know who Charlie was. They keep saying Charlie. The other 426 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 3: side says that he was put including unfortunately this this 427 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 3: horrific assassin, that Charlie was spewing hate speech. But what 428 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: you see actually when you look at what Charlie said, 429 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: and beyond that, look at how his followers act. They 430 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: act with love and within the law, and with consideration 431 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: and with kindness. And yet the people that think on 432 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 3: the other side that they're doing some great favor to 433 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 3: society by being violent, not just in this incident, but 434 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 3: in many incidents like it, Antifa and all these others. 435 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 3: They think that they are stopping hate speech, and they 436 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: never stop to think that they're the hateful ones, that 437 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: they are the ones who are saying your words upset me. 438 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: So I will attack you, I will punch you, I 439 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: will even kill you. Who's the one spreading hate? What 440 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 3: is the hate that Charlie spreads? And by the way, 441 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: I would I would just add a lot of this 442 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: comes back to the trans stuff. That's really where if 443 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: you push somebody who says that that the right is 444 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: spewing hate speech, Clay, it's overwhelmingly just a version of 445 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 3: saying you are racing trans people, you are. You know, 446 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: these things go and go together all the time. But 447 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: I think when you if you're talking about hate, which 448 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: is the side that is hateful? 449 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: I think it couldn't be more clear. 450 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: Agree with all of that. Charlie found his life purpose, 451 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: he got married, he had kids. This twenty two year 452 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: year old was looking for his life's purpose, and he 453 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: found his life's purpose to be killing Charlie Kirk. How 454 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: does that happen? Your book is partly addressing it. I 455 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: think it speaks to again, the twenty seven year law 456 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: enforcement veteran dad had to turn his son that I 457 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: would bet this dad poured his heart and soul into 458 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: trying to raise as an uplifting, successful part of the community. 459 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: I don't know very many parents who do anything else. Now, 460 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: you might fail, and we might find out that there's 461 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: something in the background of this kid that was not 462 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: ideal that helped to put him on this awful path. 463 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: But you have two young men. One finds his path 464 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: and is trying to extend a hand to everyone else 465 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: to say, hey, this path works for me. I think 466 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: it could work for you too, And so so many 467 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: young men, in seeing Charlie's path, see a path for 468 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: themselves as well. And then you have this twenty two 469 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: year old who, by all intentsive purposes, appears buck to 470 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: have been normal for much of his life. And he 471 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: gets radicalized to such an extent somewhere that he's writing 472 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: anti pro fascist and anti fascist, anti fascist and anti 473 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: anti Nazi comments on bullets that he uses to incredibly 474 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: detailed plan the assassination of Charlie Kirk. 475 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: How does that happen? How do they go again? In pathways? 476 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: And so in the book Clay, I get into these 477 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: I get into brainwashing, I get into a process called mentacide. 478 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 3: I get into Pavlovian conditioning. I get into isolation and 479 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: how that is used as a tool in this. I 480 00:25:53,600 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: get into fear as a tool, a tool of ideological coercion, right, 481 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: I mean, these are all different things. I mean, and 482 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: again the book's not even out till January, but it's 483 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 3: just this is what my I've been looking at this 484 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 3: because a lot of it was driven by COVID, But 485 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 3: I get into the trans thing as well, and how 486 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: people who aren't trans themselves will threaten to kill people 487 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: or will kill people even because they have the wrong 488 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: idea about trans in you know, quote unquote wrong idea 489 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: that how does someone get to that point? You know, 490 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 3: how someone so diluted? And this is a huge problem 491 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: in our society because these ideas can grow and can 492 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: take root to the point where they can actually cause 493 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: a societal upheaval. I mean, you saw this in the 494 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: Russian Revolution into Soviets, and you saw this in North Korea. 495 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: And I get into some of this. We're actually the 496 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 3: crazy ideas are the mandatory ideas. And the Democrat Party 497 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: has had some instances where they have shown us this. 498 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 3: COVID was one of the most it was probably the 499 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: most powerful instance of it, but also the same thing 500 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: with men don't have an advantage over women in sports 501 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: and other ideas like this. 502 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: Right, you get into all of this, but. 503 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: It is a process of radicalization, and there is something 504 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 3: that we have to look at here and understand much more, 505 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 3: much more deeply and in a much more cohesive way. 506 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 3: How do we get people off this path. It's a 507 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: little bit like getting them out of a cult. It's 508 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 3: a little bit like removing them from an ideological ecosystem 509 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: that is self reinforcing and actually deteriorating throughout that process. Because, 510 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: as you say this, what about this young man in 511 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 3: his past, in his background would make you think that 512 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 3: this would But I've gone through this clay with people 513 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: that were preparing to strap a suicide vest on and 514 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: go into the New York City subway system, or we're 515 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 3: planning to buy AK forty seven's and grenades to go 516 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 3: shoot up a a a Jewish temple in one of 517 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: the suburbs of New York. I mean, you know, these 518 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 3: people are not leading up to this point. They aren't 519 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 3: necessarily from abusive homes, they're not impoverished that you know, 520 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 3: there hasn't been some but the ideas, and the idea 521 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 3: loop grows, and there are those who are able to 522 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 3: manipulate in this way. There are those who able to 523 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: manufacture these killers through this process, and we need to 524 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: take this. I mean we're already taking it seriously, but 525 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: we need to understand that there's a tremendous urgency in 526 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: this country to figure out how we handle this because 527 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: it's going to keep happening, and it does not have 528 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: to happen. There are places where this does not happen. 529 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: Our country is a place where this sort of thing 530 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: is happening right now, and that means that there are 531 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: underlying and foundational issues to be addressed. And I think 532 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: that a big part of it is just holding holding 533 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party and the Democrat aligned media accountable for 534 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: what they say. When you call someone a fascist, and 535 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: you say and you mean it, you are saying that 536 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: person is a threat to everyone else, a threat to 537 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: all that is good, and violence against them is justified. 538 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 3: China is a communist country. If I call someone a communist, 539 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: am I saying we have to go we have to 540 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 3: go murder a billion Chinese people? No, of course not. 541 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: It's referring to it as an ideology. But when you 542 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: call someone a fascist, there's no fascist country out there 543 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: right now, Clay, when you say fascist or Nazi, you 544 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: are resurrecting something from the past to justify violence today. 545 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: Jasmine Crockett's building on this, just called Trump Hitler today 546 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: again on Charlemagne The God Show. And I think when 547 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: you specifically analogize Trump to Adolf Hitler, building on what 548 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: you are saying, Buck. 549 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: You are directly saying, go. 550 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: Kill him because we have. I mean, this was of 551 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: a silly debate that used to go on. But before 552 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: the Trump, you ever made Hitler, You kill baby Hitler 553 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: was kind of a ridiculous sit around the coffee table 554 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: or while you're having a beer debate. And when you 555 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: call someone who is full grown Hitler, you are telling 556 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: people go kill him, which is why you can't say 557 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: that and then tried to immediately condemn. I would have 558 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: more respect for Democrats if after they tried to kill Trump, 559 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: if somebody had come out and said, I wish we 560 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: had better aim he's his, because at least it would 561 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: be consistent. 562 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: In the army. You can't condemn violence after inciting it. 563 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: We already know there are lines if you just called 564 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: every as a as a group. Right, you just called 565 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: everyone who disagree with you politically. You just started asserting 566 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 3: that they were child molesters. We would know that's defamation, 567 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: that's wrong, that's unethical. You're trying to say that this 568 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: person is the worst kind of human being, imaginable, the 569 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: most vile, the the most you know, lacking in decency, imaginable. 570 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: We would understand. 571 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: Right, everybody would know if you just go around and saying, oh, 572 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: you're running against me for this office, you're a child molester. 573 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: Everybody would know that that is crossing a clear You 574 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: know that you're saying this to defame someone, crossing a 575 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: clear line. Which, of course they've said all kinds of 576 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: things about Trump. You don't have to end up said 577 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: he's a rapist, they've said everything. But yeah, with this, 578 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 3: to call someone a nazi isn't crossing the line. To 579 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: say that you are truly a fascist who's going to 580 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: end the republic and therefore our country is going to collapse, 581 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: that is crossing the line. 582 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: There will not be elections again, which is what they 583 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: have argued for years now, a decade that tries a dictator. 584 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: Who will people remember because it was it was very uh, 585 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: we got to go to break and we want to 586 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: take your calls here, so we'll get to it. But 587 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: when I did that Bill Maher appearance, and it was 588 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: when the Democrats, I was there to tell them what 589 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: was coming, and I did, and it did happen that way. 590 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: But I remember I looked at Bill Maher. I think 591 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: it might have been in the post show video they do. 592 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: I said, I mean, you know that it's going to 593 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 3: be okay if Trump wins, right, He's going to win 594 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: and everything going to be fine. And he looked me right, 595 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: and he goes, I absolutely do not know that. I 596 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: think the country might end. Well, that's insane. 597 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: You have a problem. 598 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: You have you should go speak counseling, speak to your priests, 599 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: well not for Bill Maher, Speak to your therapist, speak 600 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: to whomever