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Yes, sirs, it's my time, 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: My time. Welcome to Money Making Conversations. I am the 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: host for Sean McDonald. Each Money Making Conversation talk show 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. I provide the consumer and 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: business owner access to celebrities, CEO, entrepreneurs, and industry decision makers. 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions for success. 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: For some, it's a sizable pat check. Mine is helping 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: people wake up and inspiring them to accomplish their goals 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: and live their life the best life they can do. 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: Possibly this is my passion I want you to share, 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: but I want to share my gifts with you so 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: you can stop tripping over small challenges and prepare to 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: rise above the bigger obstacles that life will present you 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: as you go through. The Money Making Conversation interviews provide 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: relatable information to the listener about career and financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: overcome overcoming the arts is mostly important, definitely important, and 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: how to live a balanced life. My next Chest is 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: a first generation Nigerian American who has transitioned from being 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: the sarcastic waiter on the Mike and Molly sitcom to 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: starting as an investigator and CBA and the CBS All 39 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: Access series The Good Fight. He's a farmer, athlete, you know, athlete, 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: college basketball player, Bucknell University. You know we say buck 41 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: now you gotta go deep Bucknell University. Who received the 42 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: Masters of Fine Arts from the Graduate Arcting Graduate Acting 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Program at New York University. My guests is a busy actor. 44 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: We already know that. He's a comic book aficionado. You 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: may not know that. And he's an avid gamer. You 46 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: may may not have known that either. That's what we're 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna find out about all these interesting side side deals 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: that he's doing in his life. Please work with the 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: money making conversation with my man. Niambi, Niambi, thank you. 50 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: How you Oklahoma? That's where you're from? Oklahoma? Yeah? Yeah, 51 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: I was going on the campus at the University of Oklahoma. 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm sooner born to Breda. When I die, 53 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: I'll sooner dead. Okay, Now you know that's that's kind 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: of that's almost corner that now, it's almost corner that 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: we do. That's the University of Oklahoma. I didn't make 56 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: it up. I know, I know, I know, I know. 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: So so being a point in Oklahoma or Trey Young 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: isn't it for Trey Young Smoklahoma right Oma, Okay, one 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: of our Olomo grades. Now as an athlete, Okay, athlete, 60 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: now you're an actor. You know that the academics played 61 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: away Buck Nilis wasn't an easy school to get academic 62 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: training in so so as an athlete. So let's talk 63 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: about that. H was was was the possibility of being 64 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: an actor on the horizon or just playing basketball on 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: the horizon? The mb was I was being an actor 66 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: in the amby was being an actor? Was the goal? 67 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: Or just being an actor the goal? And you know, um, 68 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: the goal for me, you know had always been um, 69 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: basketball and and and and taking it to you know, 70 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: you know, taking it as far as possible, like and 71 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: you know the dream of course is to play in 72 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: the NBA. Uh you know. But looking my father was like, 73 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: you can put all your ad basket. You have to 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: do something different. You have to you have to find 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: what what what is the thing that you are that 76 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: you can fall back on. And so I'm like, wow, 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: I want to fall back on basketball. Um. But while 78 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: doing that, um, you know, I did have other adventures 79 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: that I was into, you know, as far as the artwork. 80 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: But I had an uncle. I have an uncle who 81 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: was a painter who you know, was struggling from you know, 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: from from you know, commissions, commission, you know, very successful, 83 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: but that's how he was was operating. And then, um, 84 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: I was thinking about, you know, what if I want 85 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: to you know, sit at a desk and and you know, 86 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: being in advertising, and I knew that that's something I 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: didn't want to do. Now. In the meantime, I've always 88 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: been active, but acting for fun, like it was, you know, 89 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: doing it as far back as when I first did 90 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: my first play, se Come to Mayo Is fifth grade 91 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: had always been some sort of drum. Yeah, I had 92 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: love for it, but I didn't know that that. I 93 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: didn't know that I was an actor. I didn't call 94 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: myself that. It was just something I did as a 95 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: hobby to have fun. And and it wasn't until I 96 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: got when I saw the writing on the wall with basketball. 97 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: But at the same time I found myself on the stage, um, 98 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: going further than I normally would ever go with with 99 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: the work and touching on something that where we call 100 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: in the business of acting, catching the bug, and that 101 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: just completely it showed, It showed me. The next eighty years, 102 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, just being in that moment on that stage 103 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: to where I quickly realized that the dream of all 104 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: dreams was to be an actor. That's that's that's amazing, 105 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, understanding that because you said you started at 106 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: a very early age. You know, I, I know, my 107 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: degree is in mathematics, and I went to work for 108 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: Ibby them and I was just doing stand up comedy, 109 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, and people ask me that you always want 110 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: to be a stand up you know, I was just 111 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: a funny guy. Maybe didn't even realize I was a 112 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: funny guy, but it led me to these opportunities. And 113 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: the reason I bring that up about you being an 114 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: athlete and then now you're being a famous actor and 115 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: a working actor, is that you know, we are we 116 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: are settling a path in life. You know, our parents 117 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: can point you in the direction and say this is 118 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: how you should live your life. And then but you 119 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: have to figure out how to live your life in 120 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: a happy life that is comfortable to you. And that's 121 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: what you're doing right now, even though you had the 122 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: physical traits and the physical ability to be a superior athlete, 123 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: because they're just not passing out scholarships, you know, they're 124 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: not passing them out. So if somebody looked at you 125 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: on a regular basis said we can invest and he 126 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: can help our team. And so. But as you went 127 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: to college, how would you how were your what was 128 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: your friends saying he was an athlete, he was acting? 129 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: Why was that whole process started developing college? But for me, 130 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, uh, college is is a great place to 131 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: find out who you are. Like it's a time to 132 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: like sit back and be like, Okay, what do I 133 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: want to do? What do I want to do with 134 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: the rest of my life now? Um, you don't have 135 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: to find the answer while in college, but you can 136 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: explore all the answers while you're in college. And for me, 137 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, I started off as a computer science major. Um, 138 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: but then I found myself uh like up until five 139 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: in the morning trying to figure out how to make 140 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: a clock digitally move one second. Um. Then and then 141 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: an hour later I had to go to practice. So 142 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: I was like when I ain't gonna work, um, And 143 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: then uh after that, I was like, well, I'm into art, 144 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: so let me you know, be an art an art major. 145 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: But then they had art history right after lunch, and 146 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: I kept every time you know, they turned off the 147 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: lights and to go right to sleep, and I was like, uh, yeah, 148 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: I guess I can't major an art right now because 149 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: because I just can't get pafter our history. Um. And 150 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: then I was a going to be a theater major, 151 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: but theater happened at the same time as basketball games 152 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: as far as the other plays, so I couldn't do 153 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't do both. So then I was like, all right, 154 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: how about I just do business? So UM ended up 155 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: being a business major bucknell um. But then I was 156 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: still like, I don't know what I would do with 157 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: this degree in terms of what makes me happy, and 158 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: and the ultimately what ended up happening. I found myself, um, 159 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: you know, auditioning for play and getting cast in it 160 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: senior year and uh, you know, because I was injured. 161 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: And then my coach I told him he I got 162 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: cast in this play, as you like it, and then 163 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: he laughed at me and say, get the practice. You're 164 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: not doing that. So I was like, okay, all right, 165 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: but there's something here. There's something about this that I 166 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but there's something here that 167 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: I need to further explore. And then doing the uh, 168 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: the eulogy for the Marty children and by Monothor King 169 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: UM for this um this galla that was being put 170 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: up about now my senior year, when I did that 171 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: speech for for an audience, that's when I felt completely 172 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: met completely where I was supposed to be. UM, more 173 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: so than I had ever felt even even when I was, 174 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, playing at the top of my game basketball wise. 175 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: UM like that that that same freedom that I felt 176 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: on the basketball court when I'm like completely letting go 177 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: and at my best, you know, um not thinking, that's 178 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: how I felt on the stage. Freedom and so yeah, 179 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: And I think basketball actually prepared me for that being 180 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: an athlete, you know, it's just you know, uh, the 181 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, the practices would be like rehearsal, Yeah, the discipline, 182 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: all of that, man, Like the things that you that 183 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:03,359 Speaker 1: go into becoming you know, the best athletes you can become. Uh, 184 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: those those same things apply to to um. Uh, not 185 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: only acting, but to any sort of discipline that you're 186 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: you're you're working on, the the very foundation of those 187 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: different things that we work on, UH really require that 188 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: work that's really interesting that you're bringing in because it 189 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: really is you know, whether you're repeatedly practicing your free 190 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: throw where you really practicing jump shots and rempleatedly practicing 191 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: drill will try to get bit that that level of discipline. 192 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about right now, when you're when 193 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: we're talking about success of being consistently successful or trying 194 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: to rise to a level that you can be successful. 195 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: I want to answer this question because I do get 196 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: athletes on my calls a lot, and and and you're 197 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: an individual who got a college scholarship, so you had aspirations. 198 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: I believe to be an NBA player. We all want 199 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: to be Michael Jordan, we all want to be Kobe Bryant, 200 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: we all want to be Charles Barkley. We always want 201 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: to be If you got the boat to be a shock? 202 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: What did at what point in your athletic career you realize, 203 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, some I'm not gonna be at that level? 204 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: Or did you ever realize that you said I was 205 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: just gonna go in this direction to or something I 206 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: feel I can I can exhale in for me, Um, 207 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, I always wanted to be Magic younger because 208 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: you know that that was my my my, my favorite 209 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: player of all times. Um, And I just assumed that 210 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: I would grow to be six eight. Um, when I 211 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 1: stopped to six feeds, H think nobody was like, you 212 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: know what's good. You're good at six feet. You don't 213 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: need you don't need to go any first to see UM. 214 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: But I want me back six see UM. So all right, 215 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: six were trying to work with this UM. But then 216 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: you know, uh, sophomore year in college. UM, you know 217 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: it was actually a turning point for me because I 218 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: actually wanted to transfer. I wanted to actually go someplace else. 219 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: And because the you know, as far as silo play 220 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: and relationship to coach just wasn't you know, I wasn't 221 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: there and I wanted to. I wanted, I wanted to 222 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: go somewhere else, but I could, you know, I can 223 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: maximize my skill set and uh. And what was said 224 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: to me then when I had spoken to the coach, 225 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: UM actually put me in a place that made me 226 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: and this is truth be told, honestly, UM made me 227 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: fall out of love for playing organized basketball. Yeah. I mean, 228 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: I love the game and I've always loved in that 229 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: will never leave me. But there's something about organized basketball, 230 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: organized sports that all of a sudden became UM. It 231 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: no longer became the sort of a fun than a 232 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: passion for you. Thanks, Yeah, the passion, yeah, exactly. So 233 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: um so yeah. So so that's when it started for 234 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: me because i mean, look, I'm you know, I'm working 235 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: these basketball camps, were working at Georgetown University of Basketball camp, 236 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: playing with those guys afterwards, work in the University of 237 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: Maryland basketball. Can't playing with those guys afterwards if you 238 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: think about it, back then, that's when Steve Blake was there, 239 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: when uh, when Juan Dixon was there, a lot of 240 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: profit to come back and ball Tony Massenburg with ball 241 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: and and I'm balling with them, holding my own and 242 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: then these guys are like, man, can't wait to see 243 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: what you do. But now you know, can you know, 244 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: can't wait, can't wait? And then I get to school 245 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: and then somehow something would happen. That's just you know, 246 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: because it wasn't it was no longer you know, working out, 247 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: and it just maybe be like, you know what I've 248 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: got to look at this and and really and really 249 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: see is this is where I'm supposed to be. This 250 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: is what I'm supposed to be doing, you know, And 251 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: the thing is is that it basketball is what what 252 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: makes me happy in terms of it being my happy place. 253 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: But I can play basketball and anywhere anytime I want to, right, 254 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: you know, um at six Uh you know what I mean, 255 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: I could, um so so yeah, so that's why. So 256 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: that that's when it started a software year in uh, 257 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: in college where I was, I got at something something else. 258 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: I'll just in case, just in case. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, 259 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Nembi ni Ambie. We're talking about his 260 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: career as an athlete in college, about his experiences as 261 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: a in his academic train. We come back, we're gonna 262 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: talk about his acting career when he's making his money 263 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: with he's paying the bills. He went from I think 264 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: six seasons on Mike and Miley said, come up, it 265 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: was six seasons. Saw I'm on their playing a roll 266 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: over waiter. But this, uh, this if you have not 267 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: seen the Good Fight, Okay, when we described the breakdown 268 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: of this show, I think you're gonna become a fan 269 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: and you're gonna like find time to figure out how 270 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: to watch the shows on CBS All Access. We'll be 271 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: right back with more. Uh from buck now to to 272 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: the to the Born and Oklahoma University Hospital. 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That's O T 307 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: T E R dot Ai. That's right. He's the man. 308 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: He's been on the series an athlete, and I always 309 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: i'd love bringing people who are who on people. You 310 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: see how they've made a transition in his in their lives. 311 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: You know, because you can be so successful in one 312 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 1: direction and sometimes you can hold onto that that direction 313 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: for too long because you're afraid to make change. And 314 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: when you're an athlete, you can be driven by the 315 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: physicality of That's what defines you. And that's why I 316 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: love and that's why I wanted to bring you on 317 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: the show now be because you are you know, you 318 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: all that athlete. You are defined by the possibilities of 319 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: what you could do as a physical person. Like you said, 320 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: you're competing against the Steve Blake's and the Walan Dick 321 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: and he's a very familiar names for me. Okay from 322 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: that whole uh you know Maryland Maryland Yard Time era 323 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: or the back then when when they when they were 324 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: just just winning on the regular. Maryland is still having it, 325 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: has a really successful program and Patrick Human trying to 326 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: bring back to jargetown program. But more importantly, you understood 327 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: that God gave you more than one talent. You understood 328 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: that you you had multiple layers of opportunity. You just 329 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: had to figure out how to use those and acting 330 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: came along. Let's talk about that transition to becoming a 331 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: working actor. How did that all come about? You know, 332 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: because you said you were passionate about it. We could 333 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of passion. You know that but you 334 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: gotta have the brakes, and when you get the brakes, 335 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: you gotta take advantage of it. Talk to us about that. Well, 336 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: here's the thing. So for me, the when I made 337 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: the when I made the decision to be UM, it 338 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: was made because I or I magic, I should say UM. 339 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 1: But I could see myself doing it when I'm native, 340 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: and I could see that every decision made in terms 341 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: of going to you know, sell a lad lists, going 342 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: to the public Theater of Shakespeare Life to study course 343 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: summer um, you know, going to regional theater, going back 344 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: to school, going back to n YU to get my master's, 345 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: to bin acting. All of that thump like a blimp 346 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: on that long scale of of my career that would 347 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: last through the age of nineties. See. So like any 348 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: of those decisions I was making, I knew that I 349 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, I have time. I have time. I have time. 350 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: I have time to be the best that I can 351 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: be to to figure this out to you know, I took, 352 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: you know, to do background work on all my children, 353 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: to do UM, you know, background on on on um 354 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, law and order, just so I can see 355 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: what it likes to be on a set, you know. 356 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: So like I could take the time to do things 357 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: like that, to to study my craft and see other 358 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: people doing it, to get us close to other people 359 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: that do it, um, you know, and you know, watch them, 360 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: observe them, and then be able to say for myself, Okay, 361 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: that's great, I know what that is. Um, I know that, 362 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: and this has been fun. Every experience that I've I've undertaken, 363 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: I've tried to have the most fun with it. And 364 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: I think the you know, any undertaking that you take on, uh, 365 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: joy has to be a part of it. And so 366 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: even when I was a background actor, it was like joy, 367 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, it was was a big part of it. 368 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: But I said to myself, now that I've done that, 369 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: I know that this was a great experience. This isn't me. 370 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: And so then I would move on to the next thing. Um, 371 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, because I knew exactly the sort of projects 372 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: I wanted. I wanted to be a part of the 373 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: type of actor that I that I know that I am, 374 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: and if I'm not that yet, I was going to 375 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: do the things that I needed to do to um 376 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: to bring myself there. Um So um yeah, it's really 377 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: it was. It was really a journey of just trying 378 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, who who am I? And 379 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: then who am I in this business? Who told you, 380 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, Bill out funny? Yeah? Who told you you 381 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: was funny? Though, Okay, this is a comedian. This is 382 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: a professional comedian talking to you, you know what's funny? 383 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: So like I always knew that I was funny when um, 384 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: because when I was in when I was in like 385 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: high school college, I was the dude. I was the 386 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: quiet dude. But like at the same time somebody would 387 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: say something I've heard and whispered my friend and say 388 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: something funny and then he bursts out laughing, and everybody'd 389 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: be like, well, well it would happening, and then he 390 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: could be like, oh, he just said something funny, but yeah, 391 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: and then it wasn't. It wasn't until later, like acting 392 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: all that whatever. Actually, I just you know, came out 393 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: of my shell and I was just like, you know, 394 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: I just started being goofy and just like saying whatever 395 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: I thought, and and you know, try to make people 396 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: laugh and and and bring joy to people even if 397 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: it was you know, even if it is uh, you know, 398 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm soon born in the red out and you know 399 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: I'll sooner die whatever, So like but like saying those 400 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: things just to like, um, you know, make somebody smile 401 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: like it's it's well, you know, I'm gonna say this 402 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: to you. You know, and you know about your your talents, 403 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: because to make to be funny, it's very difficult to 404 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: be fun you know that. To be dramatic, it's still 405 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: a talent, but you're not forcing people to react. See 406 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: when you're when you're being you're forcing people to laugh 407 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: or to smile. So you could do a dramatic scene 408 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: for a long period and people just can sit there 409 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: and just internalizing emotionally and they might not react. He 410 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: may not cry, they might not show any facial features. 411 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: And so so when I look at your career and 412 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: you're doing that, my man, that's that's the compliment that 413 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: I gotta throw to you. Very few people that have 414 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: done that in Hollywood very well. Robin Williams, I think 415 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: he did it fantastically. Kevin Hart, I think it's doing 416 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: an amazing job of it. Jim Carrey has most monumentual 417 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: serious the comedic transitions on the on the on the 418 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: big screen. And you're doing it too now with the 419 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: with the good Fight. Now, I don't want to steal 420 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: any thunder from the show. But tell everybody, set up 421 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: everybody exactly what that show is. I got it right 422 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: in front of me. I could tell him, but you know, 423 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: I got to start the show on here. You you 424 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: got my boy Michael Boltman in there. I love him 425 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: to death. On my Michael bodian Der Orlando, that name 426 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: right there. Let you know you got some acting chops 427 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: around you right there. You gotta bring it when dear 428 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: Orlando is in the scene. And then and she can sing, 429 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: and she can sing like the wind. That's Ardra McDonald. 430 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: So those are just three names, like because the show 431 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: is based on a white talent being introduced into a 432 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: black world. So I've set it up, explained everybody what 433 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: goes on on The Good Fight, which is available on 434 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: All Access CBS. Yeah, so like you know the answer 435 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: your question before that, I say, you know, as far 436 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: as like comedy versus dramas, like the way I say 437 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: the people, it's just you know the difference is that 438 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: it's just when you decide to say say something. It's 439 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: the timing, you know, it's literally timing pitch all of 440 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: those things, you know, and and and and just surprising 441 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: people and I think when you surprise people, it's like 442 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: tickling them and then they and they laugh, you know, 443 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: and and I love doing that. I love finding that, 444 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, just trying to surprise someone with with with 445 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, a well timed joke, you know, and and 446 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: and there's there's some elements that with even with a 447 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: good fight. But but you know, good fight, the good 448 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: fight drama. Uh. We got, like you said, the amazing 449 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: Dogan Lindo um who is the the the head of 450 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: this law firm, um reading Boatsman at the time when 451 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: you first start ready Bowsman col Stad and we have 452 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: this um uh we have Christine Baranski amazing acts as well, 453 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: beautiful were beautiful, beautiful Christine beautiful. She's a beautiful, wonderful 454 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: Christine Ransky who they spent off from The Good Wife. UM. 455 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: As you know her character Diane Lockhart, and she was 456 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: going to retire but then besides to come back because 457 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, she gotta make some money. Um. And the 458 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: only people that would hire her were there were Adrian 459 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: Bowsmand or Lenda's character because they needed they needed a 460 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: diversity higher. So so yeah, and so then this is 461 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: us now uh with with Christine with Diane at our 462 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: law firm. We're now at a traditionally um uh black 463 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: law firm, UM watching the ins and outs of this 464 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: company over the next several seasons. So it's um, it's 465 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: actually amazing. I mean the actors that come through. I 466 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: mean we've had we had uh Ruegata Jr. Come through, 467 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: which she was great. Um who who is the head 468 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: of the law firm. So he came in then and 469 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: did did an episode where we have so many eight 470 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: guest stars that come through, and it's like the rioting 471 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: is incredible. We're always we're always talking about what's current 472 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: and and and what's current and what's new. Something that 473 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: went viral not too long ago was this video of 474 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: Adrian Bozeman, which is del Roy Lindo. It's from season 475 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: two where he's on a news outlet and they're talking 476 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: about the N word and then he's like, you know what, 477 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: go ahead, man, say it. You know you want to 478 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: say it, say a and and like and and you know, 479 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: and it went viral and people like, well what is this? 480 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: What is this? And it was like, now that was 481 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: from something two years ago that we shot on our 482 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: show is a good fight and we're but we're always current. 483 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: We're always current, hitting me with new stuff, hitting me 484 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: with the things that you that that people want to 485 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: talk about and should It's one of those U call 486 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: it a watercooler shown. It's one of those shows where 487 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, you act the watercool or you're thinking about 488 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 1: what you watched last night, and then somebody else comes 489 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: up to the water cool and get their water and 490 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: you look at them and say, hey, see what happening 491 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: on the Good Fight last night? You know yeah, uh, 492 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: you know it's crazy. What is your character? Whats your 493 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: what is your character? I know you investigator on the show. Yeah, 494 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: I played Jade, the Persia, the the in house investigator 495 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: at Reddi Reddick Boseman Cold stat and for those who 496 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: are up to date, Reddi Reddick Boseman, Lockhart and you 497 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: know this cool dude somebody who just who who you know, 498 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: gathers all the information and he may he may not 499 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: give you what you want, but he'll always give you 500 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: what you need. Uh, you know, very mysterious, uh sort 501 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: of you know investigators. Uh in terms of his methods, 502 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: but but um, but but reliable. He's a dope like 503 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: he's dope, like you're just like he's dope like you 504 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta watch this the show to understand what 505 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. This terms not only my character how 506 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: dope that you know, Jade the Persia is, but then 507 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: also they're just the world that these characters all live in. 508 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: But not only that the great acting. Like I said, 509 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to gloss over the fact 510 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: that your talented actor or young up and coming when 511 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: you compare yourself to a Dari Rolando or or the 512 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: resumes that Michael Boatman has putting out that put out 513 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: there over the years, over the decades. You know, these 514 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: guys are they're they're truly working actors in this business. 515 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: And from an African American standpoint, you you look at 516 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: them and realized that because it's difficult just just to 517 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: do anything consistently. But from an African American standpoint, you 518 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: can say, I work as an actor for a living. 519 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: That's a testament to your talent and your testament to 520 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: how you handle relationships, because relationships is very important in 521 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: all business, but especially in Hollywood. The argient McDonald. But 522 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: there's a little little negative information I wanted to say 523 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: about this about Christine Baranski's character, like she was doing well, 524 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: really really really well. She's about to walk out in 525 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: the sunset. Her husband got caught up in a made 526 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: off type scam and when he got called from that 527 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: madeoff type scam, he lost all her money and his 528 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: money too. So she had to go find a job. 529 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: Anyone come please to kind of maintaining her job, which 530 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: kind of like keep so locked into this firm. They 531 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: offered her a job when nobody else wanted to hire 532 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: because she had a little attitude out there, people that untouchable. 533 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: She was a queen bee and so when everybody seems 534 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: saw the queen bee gets stung, they were like laughing, 535 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you don't ask me for a job, I 536 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: have nothing for you. Well, this African American law firm, 537 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: law firm offered her job, but guess well it it's 538 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: not sitting very well with all African Americans at the firm. 539 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: That's the beauty of this show because of the fact 540 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: that I love it because they're classic shows on TV, 541 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: and you involved in one of the law and or 542 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: the series Homeland series. I have watched this show and 543 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: and enjoyed the I'm gonna just tell you this, I'm 544 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: a fan of yours. From a standpoint of just watching 545 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: you grow as a young man on the screen. I 546 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: do believe, Yambie, you have a career. In twenty years 547 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: from now, you'll be there or Lindo, you'll be Michael Boatman. 548 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Because you're showing that you have a virtual palette. You 549 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: can play serious, you can play dramatic, and that's how 550 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: you last in this business. If you look at dear 551 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: Ror Lndle's resume comedy drama. You look at Michael Boltman's 552 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: resume comedy drama, look at Neil's resume comedy drama. Do 553 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: not change, my friend. You're on a path for long 554 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: term success. Keep winning and keep understanding that. I want 555 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: to make a quick shift, right quick, because I want 556 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: to talk about You've been a comic book aficionado, So 557 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: I brought that up early. I don't want nobody to say, man, 558 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: he said he gonna talk to me about those comic books, 559 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: and did say nothing. Tell us about that, and tell 560 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: us about your gaming background. Yeah the day. Um, I'm 561 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: actually in many ways playing catch up because you know, 562 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: we moved around a lot when I was a kid, 563 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: and so the stuff that I was into as a 564 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: kid were comic strips and cartoons. But I never I 565 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: never knew a comic bookstore existed. Not um I was 566 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: in grad school or one of my classmates was like, 567 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: a kid go to the comic bookstore every Wednesday. I 568 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: do this for an other Wednesdays while day and he's like, yes, 569 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: the babe, that comics come out. And I'm like wow, 570 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: like that doesn't make sense. I was like, can I 571 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: follow you to a comic book story. It's like yeah, yeah, 572 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: So I follow him to Midtown Commics in New York, 573 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: one of the largest comics stores in the French hip. 574 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: And I walked in there, man, and it was like 575 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: it was Candy Gland. I could not believe all of 576 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: the comics that I had missed, and that was like 577 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: in front of me, and that had to be. That 578 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: was That was fifteen years ago, and I'm telling you 579 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: from then on, it's just been devouring comics NonStop and 580 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: so like like comments are a huge part of who 581 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: I am, a part of of what I do. Um, 582 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, I use it. I use it in terms 583 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: of in terms of like foundational work, even for my 584 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: acting as far as you know as because I'm a 585 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: sketch artist, so as far as sketching, I'll sketch like 586 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: if I see a scene and I see a scene 587 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,239 Speaker 1: where I may not you know, like you know, uh 588 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: so in terms of what something may look like or 589 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: or have a relationship to that particular object or relationship 590 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: with that person, I'll draw the person. I'll draw the 591 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: object looking a relationship with that person because I'm actually 592 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: looking at the details of that object or the details 593 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: of that person. So it's like really dope. Um, you know, 594 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: in terms of how comics have inspired that, um, you 595 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: know for meat, for those comic strips that inspired that, 596 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: and now it's comic books that are doing that format. Um. 597 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: And then um, what else do you whatever? The gaming? Gaming? Yeah, 598 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: huge gaming, Like the thing is you know, I just 599 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: the game a lot of the kids. And then again 600 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: that brought me back into the fold. Was was Metal 601 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: Gear back in two thousands? I want to say, two 602 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: thousand two, two thousand three on the on the PS 603 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: so I want to see the PS two. I think 604 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: it's kids to maybe the p S one, p S 605 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: one and and like like game like like you know 606 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: anything and everything you know, games like the you know, 607 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: Class of Us, Shadow Motor, you know, and of course, 608 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: play the two K games, NBA two K people, Cuphead, 609 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm playing again on my Nintendo Switch, one of the 610 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: hardest games you lever play, my boy. You know, we're 611 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: arguing whether or not Cuphead. You know the villains and 612 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: cup Head are are as hard as Tyson from the 613 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: from Mike Tysons punch Out. Absolutely, That's something that we 614 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: argue about you no daily. So like, um, you know, 615 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: like gaming is a huge part of what I do 616 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: in terms of just passing the time and just like 617 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: engaging the mind, because you got to engage the mind 618 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: every day. Wow, I'll tell you. I want to take you. 619 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: I want thank you for coming on my show. 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